It blows because the new 2021 Touareg R looks badass and packs 455 HP. It's also backed by a hybrid assistance unit too. Just think how rad it would feel.
The Touareg is still available in a new generation outside of the US. I guess VAG doesn't want to canibalize Audi Q7 and Porsche Cayenne sales in the US (which are built on the same platform). In the long run VW probably makes an error, as they did with the delaid VW Arteon lauch, which was availiable for quite some time in Europe (just started in the US). Furthermore they did not develop a Turbo VR6 engine which would have helped Golf R, Arteon R, Tiguan R as well as Atlas and US-Passat (both of which are not sold in Europe) sales in the US and for enthousiasts in Europe. Again in sight of stingent EU emissions regulations I would have been an investment but very much worth the effort for image and brand identity purposes (much like the Kia Stinger 3.3-Turbo V6 is).
You guys brushed on “authentic” SUV’s but missed so many legendary ones like the samurai, the bronco, the land cruiser.... I agree with SUV’s and authenticity.
Wikipedia on LM002: "For those requiring even more power, the Lamborghini L804 type 7.2 litre marine V12, more commonly found in class 1 offshore powerboats, could be ordered." ;)
You gotta admit they are doing a much better job of it though. They also aren't being as cheap about it as GM, they look much more distinctive than GMs badge jobs, eg the golf r is a hatch where the S3 is a sedan, the Q5 and Macan look completely different even in silhouette. GM would use the same body in white and just change things like the hood and bumpers while VW cross platforms the underpinnings and uses completely different body stampings. Cross platforming is fine by me when the platform itself is excellent as is the case with MQB and MLB.
As an E38 750iL owner, the starter sound is the best. (Also I paid $750 usd for it and over the past year it's been my cheapest to own BMW by far, who knew??)
I have a '95 geo tracker 4X4, 5 speed and It is incredibly fun to drive. it handles offroading very well and is a blast to slide around in the winter (canada)
I have a suggestion for a show topic: ultra-premium classic European cars, i.e. the 50s/60s Italian cars and pre-war Pebble Beach cars. For many of us this is a completely unknown/inaccessible segment of the car hobby, and it would be very interesting to hear about the market, auctions, cars, events, etc., from an insider's perspective.
I was about to say the exact same thing. Plus the money from VAG to do the development paid for the Leipzig plant and test tracks and essentially the first few years of Cayenne production were at cost, so HUGE profit margin (since R&D didn't have to be amortized, as daddy VW paid for it all). There was an article about it in Christophorus ages ago. Then the money coming in from Cayenne also financed the federalization of the GT3 and funded the Carrera GT project.
Samurai > Sidekick for off road...because solid front axle. Jimny is solid front axle and therefore successor to the Samurai. Other truck based modern SUVs include 4Runner, GX470, Land Cruiser, LX570, FJ Cruiser, Xterra, Armada, QX80, Tahoe, Suburban, Expedition? Durango?
The Durango, yes, but only in the first and probably second generation. The third (and current) generation moved to a unibody chassis shared with the Jeep Grand Cherokee.
I think there is one more reason (at least in Europe) why people choose to go with cross-overs and SUVs. In Europe cars based on popular models from segment B and C (E.g. Renault Captur based Clio or T-Roc based on VW Golf) are positioned and advertised as more premium products that are supposed to make owner feel better than if he/she bought Clio or Golf.
Jeep Grand Cherokee trackhawk is my dream SUV it’s ridiculous that the car even exists and to the untrained eye it’s just another Jeep! 707hp Such a sleeper.
Jason, you had: Chevy Cavalier Pontiac J2000/Sunbird Buick Skyhawk Oldsmobile Firenza Cadillac Cimarron But that was GM of the 80s, same car, different badges & front/rear ends
Derek, a quick primer on Louis Vuitton Monogram Canvas (the all over logo bags). The material design and composition is over 100 years old. It was utilized because of its waterproof properties, since many original pieces were used for first class ocean liner travel. The foray into leathers and exotic skins is Louis Vuitton chasing fashion; the monogram bags are THE standard bearer for the brand (much like a Miura or Countach is for Lamborghini) ✌️❤️
After watching the last one I went to fill up with some E85(hrsprs yo), and a young dude was next me filling up a 325 series wagon. I made sure to compliment him on his choice of cars. :)
I'd also argue that GM repeated the Cimarron mistake with the ELR (though I love mine, no way I would have bought one at the new price they were asking for a hotted up Volt)
If you want a cool colour story, look up "Barney's Shirt" from Holden in Australia, or the Australian Chrysler colours. You can't beat "Thar' she blu" or "Little hood riding red". Actually Holden had a couple of great colours - Plum Dinger!
@@ltbullitt35 Uh oh you have cameras on my house or something? But yes, this was recorded before any of the social-distancing or shelter-in-place orders were given. We are now locked in our separate houses. We have a couple more episodes recorded, and next week are meeting (virtually) to figure out a solution to keep the episodes coming! Hang in there, guys!
Yes Jason - Hyphen is correct!...The Touareg is no longer available in the US for two model years. I owned a 2004 Touareg for about 6 months. It was so heavy (6000+lbs?) that it qualified for George Bush's Accelerated Depreciation program designed to promote sales of industrial cranes, bulldozers and farm equipment. It got 9 mpg and went through tires every 3000 miles. On canyon roads at speeds around 30 miles per hour it was quite similar to riding an elephant. ...and " Don't You Say Yes to Me!.....I'm TELLING You!"
@@the-boring-car-guy the Zonda engine is a Merc engine. Not just the "block", as the block has very little to do with the sound, most of the noise comes from the configuration of the heads.
I have the V12 tdi Q7 and it‘s a blast, more torque than you could ever need, tows 3,5 tons, lots of space, handles very well in the corners considering it‘s a 2,7 ton barge, and on top it can get very decent fuel economy. 8,5 l/100km is easily possible
Jason, I agree 100% with your view on SUV's, especially regarding gen pop. The authentic SUV you left off your list that may be the best allrounder, from on road ability to reliability to zombie apocalypse, is the Nissan Xterra Pro 4X.
When the Cavalier came out, it was actually pitched as a premium product. Upper trim Cavaliers cost more than Monte Carlos, Caprices and even Cutlass Supremes and loaded up they cost about $11k.They weren’t class leading, but competitive. The Cimarron started at $12k and it’s main differences were better paint, leather seats, and additional insulation. They weren’t terrible, but they weren’t great either. I think it’s a false equivalence to say the Cayenne is as similar to a Touareg (which isn’t sold here) as the Cayenne looks substantially different, and Porsche applies a pretty significant amount of change to it. Also the transmission in the base Macan is an Audi DSG.
Jason I need a favor now keep in mind I have never in my 37 years of life asked u for a thing. I need you and Derrick Tam Hyphen Scott to give us a extra show a week to get us through this. Also call Throttle House and have them join via call in...... I can wish right
Have you seen the Simpsons episode when Rainer Wolfcastle is driving a Hummer-like thing and Bart asks about the gas mileage, and he responds "It gets one in the highway and zero in the city".
The part where Jason goes full German when describing the Audi Q5 was the funniest thing I’ve heard in a long time. It kind of describes most Audis in terms of driving dynamics😂😂 More of the German accent please
Robbie Herrera yes like i said! A flat 12 but no boxer 12. It had a 180-V12. In a 180 V the pistons go in the same direction. In a Boxer they move away from each other and towards each other
We have a suv as my wife's daily mainly because it's a do it all vehicle for us, it's big enough for our two dogs, tents ect. We use the 4wd alot as well because in the south we still have alot of dirt roads that we kill cars lol. Also I have a bad knee from football and it's so much easier on me. Of course I still have a boosted NC Miata in the garage lol.
Oh come on now, no mention of the Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution? Homologation special RALLY 3-door SUV, 3.5 liter V6 with like 275 hp, proper 4wd with diffs all around/selectable drive modes and completely bespoke suspension. Wider track all around, wide body kit, the works. They're SO cool
The Tracker/Vitara was also sold under 15 other names in Canada including the Asüna SunRunner. When you say Jimney, I think of the vehicle that preceded the Samurai and is even smaller. Was there another?
I was surprised neither of you named the classic Toyota FJ40-44s or Nissan Patrols. I mean truck wise, those'll compete with wranglers and defenders any day of the week.
@@Turshin wait, what? Are you pulling my chain or something? Suburbans better, I need to be schooled, please enlighten me (for real not j/king) I'm not very knowledgeable on chevy and ford trucks.
Suburbans are the best selling, and has the oldest nameplate. They're literally building them on Silverado body on frames. They run forever. Do a search several run over 300k . Mine has 317k on the Odometer. Best suv of all time.
@@Turshin to give you some perspective the FJ40 was produced world wide from 1960 to 1984, with only minor changes. Its engine was pretty much indestructible with many people claiming the 500 to 600K miles, that's a 1 million kms, I believe that somewhat surpasses 300k. Is it the most sophisticated, nope, but neither was the suburban from that era. As for the Patrol, that thing is just as tough as an FJ. I believe you'll find that outside of the US these 2 have sold more, traveled more and gone through more hard living than subs. Not saying these old Subs aren't cool. I'd much rather have one of those than the newer versions if only for the uniqueness and simplicity of it, but I don't believe they are better options than the two I've stated. I don't know about this, but can you have a soft top on a suburban, cause side facing passenger seats with the top down in summer is epic.
@@vincentgiroux4317 the 1st suburban was built in 1935. And there are also suburbans that have hit 1 million miles. Dont underestimate the small block Chevy. Parts are cheap, reliable, and readily available. Plus you can actually tow with a suburban, pack in up to 9 ppl and all of their stuff in comfort. I'll take a suburban over a FakeJeep40 any day.
As someone not from America, Jason, I appreciate your knowledge of metric units of measurement. It's fuckin cool that you just know that shit off the top of your head.
55:00 I have been once offroading with my family in our kia ceed and we rutinely carry up to 5 +6 feet tall persons on it, but the fact that we got a diesel underpowered hatchback shows how european we are
@@kirbyswarp It’s much easier to load kids into car seats at SUV height. And you can get a RWD-based SUV with perfect weight balance that drives better than 95% of cars on the road and better than every 60/40 weight distribution FWD-based minivan.
i think i can write at least 5 pages of comments to summ of every topic and little topics talked in this video :) I love how your train of thought constantly derails :)
No mention of the current truck like suvs? Lexus and toyota still sells one of the most capable, simple and reliable body on frame suvs lol. 4runner, gx, lx, and land cruiser?
I’m still a very young driver and my parents have a 2018 Toyota 4Runner and a 2018 Audi RS3, I hate driving the 4Runner, I feel too big, I feel unnecessary, it feels dumb and stupid, that RS3 is a treat to me as it’s super easy to handle around town, it’s small, it’s fast if I need it, I’d much rather a golf or a really small hatch over an SUV
The Tueareg (whatever) in the US was discontinued in favor of the Atlas and Tiguan. An over-engineered nightmare, I knew someone that sold it simple because it was in the shop every three months. Great looking car, lovely to see on the road compared to the hideous swollen-frog design of the 1st gen Cayenne. Still, the Cayenne saved Porsche which in turn saved the 911 and 718. Yay SUVs!
I consider myself and my wife "car people" and our current stable consists of: Focus RS, ND Miata, and TRD Pro 4Runner (arguably a "truck" as well in the context of this conversation).
An authentic suv in my mind most be truck based or have a solid axle or preferably two. Also I have a Wagoneer and a Jeep WJ I would consider those to be authentic suvs.
I would be ecstatic if the Urus were to be lambo V10s front-engined. That just made lambo swapping any front-engine rwd whatever easier. Also Peter Björk is swapping an even-firing V10s into his Volvo Wagen
![ร้อยพ่อพันแม่ - WanMai [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XY2pNYASEbg/mqdefault.jpg)
Best line from this episode - DTS “I’m conceptually more vintage than you” lol
That should be a badge Derek adds to all his cars, "DTS"
Joe Fields DT-S
@@maximilliandragan8022 lol
The touareg was indeed cancelled in favor of the atlas by the end of the 2017 model year
It blows because the new 2021 Touareg R looks badass and packs 455 HP. It's also backed by a hybrid assistance unit too. Just think how rad it would feel.
The Touareg is still available in a new generation outside of the US. I guess VAG doesn't want to canibalize Audi Q7 and Porsche Cayenne sales in the US (which are built on the same platform).
In the long run VW probably makes an error, as they did with the delaid VW Arteon lauch, which was availiable for quite some time in Europe (just started in the US). Furthermore they did not develop a Turbo VR6 engine which would have helped Golf R, Arteon R, Tiguan R as well as Atlas and US-Passat (both of which are not sold in Europe) sales in the US and for enthousiasts in Europe.
Again in sight of stingent EU emissions regulations I would have been an investment but very much worth the effort for image and brand identity purposes (much like the Kia Stinger 3.3-Turbo V6 is).
pro trick : you can watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies these days.
@@rahulmandala4930 the V6 TDI is where it's at.
But the Altar VR6 is also a cool truck.
@@stephanvelines7006 dude in the US people are badge snobs
You guys brushed on “authentic” SUV’s but missed so many legendary ones like the samurai, the bronco, the land cruiser.... I agree with SUV’s and authenticity.
I picked up a series 80 with 480k miles a few months ago!
Or the suburban
I think there's a difference between SUV's and off-roaders.
4Runner too!
This podcast is part of my daily routine
I, too, watch it daily, and I look forward to the day when I can watch it daily and not rewatch the same episode twice in one month.
Wikipedia on LM002: "For those requiring even more power, the Lamborghini L804 type 7.2 litre marine V12, more commonly found in class 1 offshore powerboats, could be ordered." ;)
We are way overdue for another Proper Care & Feeding of Cars. Just sayin...
You're 100% correct. We have a few of them that have been recorded and they're being edited. Hang tight.
Everyone knows it's all about Wagons > SUV's
Only the RS4 + 6 wagons....
@@catlee8064 No.
All of them.
The sales numbers dont that. Too niche
@@Turshin I mean whats good and what people want are normally 2 different things
@@TheImperfectGuy Man SUVs are useful
Glad to hear Jason thinks VW has become the new GM with their rebadging.
You gotta admit they are doing a much better job of it though. They also aren't being as cheap about it as GM, they look much more distinctive than GMs badge jobs, eg the golf r is a hatch where the S3 is a sedan, the Q5 and Macan look completely different even in silhouette. GM would use the same body in white and just change things like the hood and bumpers while VW cross platforms the underpinnings and uses completely different body stampings. Cross platforming is fine by me when the platform itself is excellent as is the case with MQB and MLB.
flacjacket
That’s true
As an E38 750iL owner, the starter sound is the best. (Also I paid $750 usd for it and over the past year it's been my cheapest to own BMW by far, who knew??)
Forgot the Lexus LX, Lexus GX, 4-Runner, Hilux. These are all probably the most reliable vehicles in the world.
Nope the suburban takes that
turshin no sir
I have a '95 geo tracker 4X4, 5 speed and It is incredibly fun to drive. it handles offroading very well and is a blast to slide around in the winter (canada)
another Lambo easter egg: Was designed by Pagani while in Lamborghini
I have a suggestion for a show topic: ultra-premium classic European cars, i.e. the 50s/60s Italian cars and pre-war Pebble Beach cars. For many of us this is a completely unknown/inaccessible segment of the car hobby, and it would be very interesting to hear about the market, auctions, cars, events, etc., from an insider's perspective.
To say the Cayenne is a Porsche-branded Volkswagen is missing the mark - Porsche lead the development of the Touareg/955 program
I was about to say the exact same thing. Plus the money from VAG to do the development paid for the Leipzig plant and test tracks and essentially the first few years of Cayenne production were at cost, so HUGE profit margin (since R&D didn't have to be amortized, as daddy VW paid for it all). There was an article about it in Christophorus ages ago. Then the money coming in from Cayenne also financed the federalization of the GT3 and funded the Carrera GT project.
Did you challenge each other to make this whole episode without talking about Land Cruisers or was it an accident?
One great SUV you guys forgot about is the Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution :) Dakar King
The long wait is over, finally another ISSIMI video
You two are saving me from getting bored to death during quarantine
Doing our part. Thanks for watching!
Samurai > Sidekick for off road...because solid front axle. Jimny is solid front axle and therefore successor to the Samurai.
Other truck based modern SUVs include 4Runner, GX470, Land Cruiser, LX570, FJ Cruiser, Xterra, Armada, QX80, Tahoe, Suburban, Expedition? Durango?
The Durango, yes, but only in the first and probably second generation. The third (and current) generation moved to a unibody chassis shared with the Jeep Grand Cherokee.
And now begins the depressed rewatching of old episodes with the show being ended. I'll miss this short-lived show.
I think there is one more reason (at least in Europe) why people choose to go with cross-overs and SUVs.
In Europe cars based on popular models from segment B and C (E.g. Renault Captur based Clio or T-Roc based on VW Golf) are positioned and advertised as more premium products that are supposed to make owner feel better than if he/she bought Clio or Golf.
Jeep Grand Cherokee trackhawk is my dream SUV it’s ridiculous that the car even exists and to the untrained eye it’s just another Jeep! 707hp Such a sleeper.
Jason, you had:
Chevy Cavalier
Pontiac J2000/Sunbird
Buick Skyhawk
Oldsmobile Firenza
Cadillac Cimarron
But that was GM of the 80s, same car, different badges & front/rear ends
Toyota also had a version of the cavalier, if I'm not mistaken. It was a Japan only car from the 2000's.
u guys forgot landcruisers! you buy a land rover if you wanna make it into the bush you buy a landcruiser if you wanna make it back
Derek, a quick primer on Louis Vuitton Monogram Canvas (the all over logo bags). The material design and composition is over 100 years old. It was utilized because of its waterproof properties, since many original pieces were used for first class ocean liner travel. The foray into leathers and exotic skins is Louis Vuitton chasing fashion; the monogram bags are THE standard bearer for the brand (much like a Miura or Countach is for Lamborghini) ✌️❤️
After watching the last one I went to fill up with some E85(hrsprs yo), and a young dude was next me filling up a 325 series wagon. I made sure to compliment him on his choice of cars. :)
The 470 and land cruiser are just excellent quality well made people and stuff movers.
I'd also argue that GM repeated the Cimarron mistake with the ELR (though I love mine, no way I would have bought one at the new price they were asking for a hotted up Volt)
Calling that Isuzu a truck is like that thug pulling the switch blade on Crocodile Dundee and calling it a knife;)
Thats not a knaaaaawwwife.
@@shashankshukla2012 *knoife* 🤓
whats crocodile
If you want a cool colour story, look up "Barney's Shirt" from Holden in Australia, or the Australian Chrysler colours. You can't beat "Thar' she blu" or "Little hood riding red". Actually Holden had a couple of great colours - Plum Dinger!
The Touareg was only sold until 2017, the Tiguan is the smallish SUV based on the Golf that will be stepped on by the Atlas Cross Sport
The Tiguan is a crossover. Not a real SUV
Tiguan is like an overgrown Golf
@@aygwm The tiguan is based on the Passat, not the golf, but it's pretty similar to the golf.
Watching Jason cough so close to Derek’s face is so cringe rn haha
He's been coughing for months.
This was recorded at least two weeks ago. COVID19 wasnt as much a concern as how Jason was going to get his patio table to the warehouse in his Golf
@@ltbullitt35 Uh oh you have cameras on my house or something? But yes, this was recorded before any of the social-distancing or shelter-in-place orders were given. We are now locked in our separate houses. We have a couple more episodes recorded, and next week are meeting (virtually) to figure out a solution to keep the episodes coming! Hang in there, guys!
JasonCammisa you too brotha, stay safe and healthy
@@JasonCammisa thank you guys for record for us before the social distancing. Stay safe tho! CheeRS
Love you guys. So entertaining. Stay safe out there in Cali
I am astonished by that Land Cruiser was never mentioned.
Dude it drives like a truck, it's not an SUV.
Yes Jason - Hyphen is correct!...The Touareg is no longer available in the US for two model years. I owned a 2004 Touareg for about 6 months. It was so heavy (6000+lbs?) that it qualified for George Bush's Accelerated Depreciation program designed to promote sales of industrial cranes, bulldozers and farm equipment. It got 9 mpg and went through tires every 3000 miles. On canyon roads at speeds around 30 miles per hour it was quite similar to riding an elephant.
...and " Don't You Say Yes to Me!.....I'm TELLING You!"
5:00 - I find equal length headers on Merc V12s sound most like Zondas for some reason...
uummmnocoolnames I'm pretty sure it's the same block
@@the-boring-car-guy the Zonda engine is a Merc engine. Not just the "block", as the block has very little to do with the sound, most of the noise comes from the configuration of the heads.
What about the Toyota Land Cruiser or even the 4runner?
I love it...greez from Germany
With all the focus on events at hand I missed this episode dropping I needed this from u guys
True SUV still on sale today... Toyota 4runner. Higher driving position helps with seeing over snow banks where applicable
I have the V12 tdi Q7 and it‘s a blast, more torque than you could ever need, tows 3,5 tons, lots of space, handles very well in the corners considering it‘s a 2,7 ton barge, and on top it can get very decent fuel economy. 8,5 l/100km is easily possible
As a stupid teenager that whipped a defender around some back roads I can report a D90 is surprisingly difficult to flip over.
Jason, I agree 100% with your view on SUV's, especially regarding gen pop. The authentic SUV you left off your list that may be the best allrounder, from on road ability to reliability to zombie apocalypse, is the Nissan Xterra Pro 4X.
When the Cavalier came out, it was actually pitched as a premium product. Upper trim Cavaliers cost more than Monte Carlos, Caprices and even Cutlass Supremes and loaded up they cost about $11k.They weren’t class leading, but competitive. The Cimarron started at $12k and it’s main differences were better paint, leather seats, and additional insulation. They weren’t terrible, but they weren’t great either.
I think it’s a false equivalence to say the Cayenne is as similar to a Touareg (which isn’t sold here) as the Cayenne looks substantially different, and Porsche applies a pretty significant amount of change to it. Also the transmission in the base Macan is an Audi DSG.
There's still one truck SUV, the GM products, the Yukon, Suburban, Escalade, etc.
I feel like both of both of these guys have parents that own Aston Martin SUVs
Jason I need a favor now keep in mind I have never in my 37 years of life asked u for a thing. I need you and Derrick Tam Hyphen Scott to give us a extra show a week to get us through this. Also call Throttle House and have them join via call in...... I can wish right
Something people slept on with the original Touareg was its solid offloading capabilities. A few upgrades and it's dangerously capable
LM002 is around 5.6 MPG, with some owners reporting getting up to 8.
Have you seen the Simpsons episode when Rainer Wolfcastle is driving a Hummer-like thing and Bart asks about the gas mileage, and he responds "It gets one in the highway and zero in the city".
Your zombie apocalypse is here Jason! Stay safe and healthy man!
Sheila E was the artist of song Jason was talking about. She was Prince's drummer. Sorry had a Cliff Claven moment. Who the hell is Cliff Claven?
And who was her father? (Jeopardy theme here.)
@@martingardens Pass...I had to Google it..The answer is interesting. anyone anyone Bueller?
The part where Jason goes full German when describing the Audi Q5 was the funniest thing I’ve heard in a long time. It kind of describes most Audis in terms of driving dynamics😂😂 More of the German accent please
6:20 The Ferrari 512BB never really had a boxer-engine! It hat a Flat-12 but this was a 180-Degree V12. Just a little bullshittery
LeoKal But isn’t 180 degrees flat?
Robbie Herrera yes like i said! A flat 12 but no boxer 12. It had a 180-V12. In a 180 V the pistons go in the same direction. In a Boxer they move away from each other and towards each other
Love the episode, you guys forgot about the 4Runner!
I love that I agree with you two, right down to the the showy LV bags.
Two years on...now that the Bronco is out, would either of you be interested in it? (Not the Sport, even though it's apparently good for what it is.)
We have a suv as my wife's daily mainly because it's a do it all vehicle for us, it's big enough for our two dogs, tents ect. We use the 4wd alot as well because in the south we still have alot of dirt roads that we kill cars lol. Also I have a bad knee from football and it's so much easier on me. Of course I still have a boosted NC Miata in the garage lol.
Oh come on now, no mention of the Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution? Homologation special RALLY 3-door SUV, 3.5 liter V6 with like 275 hp, proper 4wd with diffs all around/selectable drive modes and completely bespoke suspension. Wider track all around, wide body kit, the works. They're SO cool
Thanks for entertaining in such difficult times!!! Next time show the alcohol dispensser and don't touch your faces ;)
The Tracker/Vitara was also sold under 15 other names in Canada including the Asüna SunRunner.
When you say Jimney, I think of the vehicle that preceded the Samurai and is even smaller. Was there another?
I was surprised neither of you named the classic Toyota FJ40-44s or Nissan Patrols.
I mean truck wise, those'll compete with wranglers and defenders any day of the week.
Suburbans are better
@@Turshin wait, what? Are you pulling my chain or something? Suburbans better, I need to be schooled, please enlighten me (for real not j/king) I'm not very knowledgeable on chevy and ford trucks.
Suburbans are the best selling, and has the oldest nameplate. They're literally building them on Silverado body on frames. They run forever. Do a search several run over 300k . Mine has 317k on the Odometer. Best suv of all time.
@@Turshin to give you some perspective the FJ40 was produced world wide from 1960 to 1984, with only minor changes. Its engine was pretty much indestructible with many people claiming the 500 to 600K miles, that's a 1 million kms, I believe that somewhat surpasses 300k. Is it the most sophisticated, nope, but neither was the suburban from that era. As for the Patrol, that thing is just as tough as an FJ. I believe you'll find that outside of the US these 2 have sold more, traveled more and gone through more hard living than subs. Not saying these old Subs aren't cool. I'd much rather have one of those than the newer versions if only for the uniqueness and simplicity of it, but I don't believe they are better options than the two I've stated. I don't know about this, but can you have a soft top on a suburban, cause side facing passenger seats with the top down in summer is epic.
@@vincentgiroux4317 the 1st suburban was built in 1935. And there are also suburbans that have hit 1 million miles. Dont underestimate the small block Chevy. Parts are cheap, reliable, and readily available. Plus you can actually tow with a suburban, pack in up to 9 ppl and all of their stuff in comfort. I'll take a suburban over a FakeJeep40 any day.
Panda 4x4, obviously.
If car companies made factory Safari lifted versions of sports cars ...
I loved the Samurai, they were all over Hawaii when I lived there in the service would by one today if I could find one in good shape.
As someone not from America, Jason, I appreciate your knowledge of metric units of measurement. It's fuckin cool that you just know that shit off the top of your head.
Why is this the best show in the world? I do not understand. Thank you 🙂
55:00 I have been once offroading with my family in our kia ceed and we rutinely carry up to 5 +6 feet tall persons on it, but the fact that we got a diesel underpowered hatchback shows how european we are
My kid is roaming around i a G-wagen in the army as we speak. Still works great, still slow.
Next episode should be a musical. Great chat as always.
Enzo didn’t have equal length headers, 599 GTO and any V12 after that from Fezzas however does
As an enthusiast; I'd rather have a wagon over an SUV, if I needed the ground clearance it would be a truck.
Jason is such a VAG fanboi and it makes me happy as I am myself. But please... some variety. Few people in the US are buying VAG SUVs.
You should one guy browsing internet to search the required infos ℹ️
Like the guy in Lew later clips 😁
You two are interessantISSIMI 🇮🇹
“I would never drive an SUV” - every car enthusiast who never had to put a 40 lb child into a car seat in an E63 wagon.
Get a minivan. Even then, I don't see your point.
@@kirbyswarp It’s much easier to load kids into car seats at SUV height. And you can get a RWD-based SUV with perfect weight balance that drives better than 95% of cars on the road and better than every 60/40 weight distribution FWD-based minivan.
i think i can write at least 5 pages of comments to summ of every topic and little topics talked in this video :) I love how your train of thought constantly derails :)
What brand and model is the blue shirt Jason is wearing please? It is just what I am looking for. Thanks
Rolls Cullinan has a V12 as well
Honda Element manual neglected guys?
I was eating chips and salsa when watching this so couldn't hear the audio too well and at 3:21 I thought Jason said "Have you ever had an STD?"
Watching this in 2024, it's interesting how Jason's view of 992 Porsche has changed with the GT3's and the S/T's arrival.
No mention of the current truck like suvs? Lexus and toyota still sells one of the most capable, simple and reliable body on frame suvs lol. 4runner, gx, lx, and land cruiser?
Incorrect on the Touareg. 2017 was the last model year (in the US).
I’m still a very young driver and my parents have a 2018 Toyota 4Runner and a 2018 Audi RS3, I hate driving the 4Runner, I feel too big, I feel unnecessary, it feels dumb and stupid, that RS3 is a treat to me as it’s super easy to handle around town, it’s small, it’s fast if I need it, I’d much rather a golf or a really small hatch over an SUV
The Tueareg (whatever) in the US was discontinued in favor of the Atlas and Tiguan. An over-engineered nightmare, I knew someone that sold it simple because it was in the shop every three months. Great looking car, lovely to see on the road compared to the hideous swollen-frog design of the 1st gen Cayenne. Still, the Cayenne saved Porsche which in turn saved the 911 and 718. Yay SUVs!
@5:00 - That clip is INSANE
Jeep Cherokee. XJ. love mine. But its lifted and all that fun stuff
Yes 2 years old butt,
Is copper a brown? The fleet of Turbine Chryslers. Those curves with that color. Beautiful
I consider myself and my wife "car people" and our current stable consists of: Focus RS, ND Miata, and TRD Pro 4Runner (arguably a "truck" as well in the context of this conversation).
Nice.
Finally got the internet working in my bunker. First thing I am going to watch!
Say safe every one!
I heard the Urus was it’s own platform? That it did share some pieces but it was overall designed as its own thing and than became shared with the Q8
The a pillar rake and the pedal placement is exactly the same as the other cars on the MLB platform i.e Volkswagen Touareg.
the Macan isn't based on the Tiguan and Q3? my girlfriend has a '16 Tiguan R line and it actually handles incredibly well on twisty roads.
I can't imagine Derek's reaction if Jason would have said "bollard, you mean mallard, that's a 🦆".
Toyota also took the cavalier and slapped a Toyota badge on it for Japan
True.
45;50 Suzuki Samurai was renamed, in a John Lescroart novel, as the Suzuki Seppuku, for it's propensity to suicide by rolling over.
An authentic suv in my mind most be truck based or have a solid axle or preferably two. Also I have a Wagoneer and a Jeep WJ I would consider those to be authentic suvs.
A Cimarron was based on the Euro Opel Ascona C. This is actually funny ;)
when's the next car video!!! we miss them, the gt500 video was a huge tease for this channel! lets make some more great ones guys!!
I would be ecstatic if the Urus were to be lambo V10s front-engined. That just made lambo swapping any front-engine rwd whatever easier. Also Peter Björk is swapping an even-firing V10s into his Volvo Wagen