I was just wondering about this yesterday, didn't search any transformers and yet today its in my recommended, youtube has some very weird supernatural power about it lol
Decepticons travels from earth to cybertron and vice cersa really fast if we take a look at revenge of fallen where after getting revived he directly travels to cybertron and then back to earth again
Let's be honest. He forgot the autobots killed long hook, thencreated devastator, and then while devastator was on a pyramid and had the constructicons fighting the autobots elsewhere. Michael Bay should've been fired then.
Let's just assume he didn't forget anything, so to satisfy ourselves, I propose the following: Galvatron turning back to Megatron as explained in the vid. Cybertron actually looks smaller in The Last Knight than how it appeared in Transformers 3 (it was way bigger than Earth), so it must be the remains. As for the constructicons thing, there's more than one of each type of vehicle, for example.... Long Haul isn't the only constructicon who turns into that kind of truck. Wew.
LeakyBumHole yeah rip OG bay megs in the 07 movie maybe like after each time he died he lost a part of himself for good so he doesn’t come back the same
Skye Volt il, it was a shame seeing megatron making deals with humans in the 5th one, the megatron i know, would’ve killed them and busted all the decepticons outta there, that wouldve been cool
The Devil Room, Bay not write the scripts personally but he is still in charge of them, and can easily alter any scripts to his liking. And he did none of that in this sequel and just tagged along with the inconsistencies. He's the director. So he pretty much could alter anything at this point.
The NuttyNiNjA answer is more simple, bay gives no fucks about continuity. I mean fuck the guy playing Merlin also played the owner of the company making the earth transformers in the movie before this one
I wouldn’t say megatron is cooler he is just more well known so if you ask people who’s cooler they would say megaton but they are both cool characters it would be nice to know what happened and know if the writers just had a brain or something cool happened
I think what happened was , There were many more cells, in them could’ve been more autobots. In AOE the reason the autobots died were lockdown, Ratchet surrendered which led the humans to hold their fire, they probably would’ve let them live but lockdown needed information on where is optimus prime so he killed the autobots until they’d give him information, lockdown didn’t do this to the decepticon s because they didn’t know of Optimus whereabouts. So lockdown killed the autobots Unless they have them infromation(If lockdown isn’t there and the autobots surrender they’d be takin prisoner) But lockdown let’s decepticon live because he honestly doesn’t even bother with them since they didn’t know where Optimus was.
Bro Unicron is gonna be scary. Do u really know how big he is? Like he got all 6 of his horns sticking out no picture the rest of his body. He’s gonna be hugeeeeeee.
As much of a transformers fan I am TF5 literally disgusted me and this movie was just terrible n just let me down hardcore, you can tell they ran out of ideas with this movie since Bay thought he was done when he made DOTM
xxcrysiscgx _ Starting from the 4th to 5th it fucked my brain up really hard man too difficult to sum the story properly. I mean i would really like to be able to come to a conclusion with this movies and stories but it's just really difficult.
No, Cybertron wasn’t completely destroyed. The bridge collapsed and it was teleported away from earth and back to its original spot in the galaxy. Part of the planet was caught in the collapse however, and Optimus clearly notes in TLK that Cybertron is nearly destroyed.
You got to feel bad for Megatron, He has been killed twice, brought into body’s he doesn’t know how to control well, betrayed by a true friend or a brother in his eyes, and only wants to fight for the survival of his race
Not really in the movies, and I think megaton wanted a cybertronian form because his "galvatron" form as created by humans, and we all know how he feels about humans. So megaton probably would see it as his "former glory"
I like the first four Transformers films (some more than others) but The Last Knight was just... terrible. I had literally no idea what was going on, it made no sense from a story perspective. Things were just happening for seemingly no reason. Was disappointed because a lot of it was in England, which was nice to see for a change, and I do like the designs of the Transformers themselves, Megatron especially I adore! Much better than his Galvatron form... and thank god for Frank Weller!
So Megatron coming back out of the blue is now explained. It was because Optimus Prime and Megatron got bitchslapped by their Mama...ok got, you deserve a Like
I cant agree, if you think he looks better you are probably blind. Megatron from Revenge of fallen looks absolutly incredible, in first and third movie he looked incredible as well. Galvatron was ~ not that good but it was still ok but now, now he is poor pathetic piece of shit that cant’t even fight. 1v1 with optimus was short as hell mabye only 20 seconds after that he lost his arm and felt from the sky. Sad how this good main villian dissapeard.
Awesome job! I'm thinking that Galvatron was able to catch up with Optimus, defeated him (why he was powered down) and took the seed. He met Quintessa, became Megatron, and together they used the seed to string remaining pieces of Cybertron together. Also, I really like your theory of Megatron having just landed in Chicago at the beginning of The Last Knight. Could be why everyone seemed pretty shocked that he had "returned" as the marketing said.
Megatron in TF1 looked more a Predacon than a Megatron. His tlk design is way more iconic and better than all his others And Megatron has always been a gladiator in most universes, so don't shit about the fact of him looking like a gladiator One of his best versions, TFP Megatron, also looked like a Gladiator
Anthony Hero Galvatron isn't invulnerable. Those KSI drones that Galvatron took over were getting munched by the Dinobots. Although Galvatron becoming Megatron reminds me of that Transformers Unicron Trilogy were Megatron becomes Galvatron in Armada. And then becomes Megatron again in Energon only to become Galvatron again. And then Transformers Cybertron has him becoming Megatron again only to become Galvatron later on.
I was confused when I went to see The Last Knight in theaters, but once I saw Quintessa turn Optimus into Nemesis, I remembered that Megatron had the same red on his face and put 2 and 2 together, coming to the same conclusion you did
@@NexusProductions-rz1svThe problem is that these movies spend most of their 2h30m runtime with useless unlikeable character moments instead of these actual important moments. And then creating random shit just to create it. Fuck it. Bumblebee kills Nazis and there's a two or so minute montage of random important people being Witwickans. What's that? The main antagonist's return being explained? Nahhhh... visual storytelling, man. You should be able to tell from a scar.
Here's the second episode! Sorry for the wait. I was holding onto this until a friend finished an intro but we decided to just wait until episode three to use it. Hope you enjoy the video and remember to leave suggestions for future episodes!
marlinfan1995 I would really like you to solve some of these questions that has been unanswered since the 1st film up to 5th. Why are all transformers color eyes mixed in both factions/sides and what does the green eyes from Lockdown, Devastator and Steelbane all means? The usual answer that everyone are using is that “these color eyes are all over the place”. To me I made my own answers on it and would be interested on what you would say and solve about this. I’d say that the green eyes means (responsibility) since Lockdown, Devastator and Steelbane all had tasks and responsibilities to deal with. Lockdown had to find Optimus to retreat to his creators/Quintessa. Devastator had to suck an entire pyramid to get the sun harvester to completely function. We didn’t see Steelbane do much but he had to keep the talisman in safety and give to ones that he sees earns it and be chosen to have it. As for some transformers having blue and red eyes for both sides like Alice-con, Frenzy, Jetfire and the dinobots while all good still has a mixture of blue and red in both their robot and Dino modes. I don’t really know but it’s probably what makes those transformers look good facially :/
Great video ! Thank you man ! I think that Megatron told Quintessa a fake story about the destruction of Cybertron, he told her that Optimus was the only responsible, that could explain the first conversation with Optimus and Quintessa ("your war destroyed Cybertron"). And I think that Megatron also told Quintessa that Optimus would try to accuse him, that would explain Quintessa's reaction ! What do you think of that ?
I just watched the Optimus/Quintessa scene again, that makes sense. I think that Megatron also told Quintessa that Optimus would try to accuse him, that would explain Quintessa's reaction ! :p (Sorry for english, not my first language ^^)
Not likely, Megatron is mind controlled by Quintessa (red face mark), and "Your war" most likely refers to Cybertronians in general. What makes absolute no sense is Galvatron reaching Quintessa before Prime
Yeah, that artificial body with the Transformium made him pretty much invulnerable compared to his other forms. He could manipulate his individual cells and all
KSI had projects for space exploring. What if Galvatron made to Cybertron through one of these projects earlier than even Age of extincion events? A random body he "infected" I mean. KSI had various bodies of galvatron they interrupted the production, since they wanted it to had Optimus form. If they recycle Galvatron body every time they interrupted, in the end it could be "infected material" if Transformium had their "DNA". Considering this, there is a probability of more than 1, or maybe, more than 2 Galvatrons in random bodies. Maybe even more. He could be everywhere in KSI production lines. All of this is considering that scene of their projects on the moon really happened. It might happened if they knew (whatever how they did) about that crash site. Or maybe, they went to moon just to say they could (a strong marketing play). So, Galvatron (in a random body) could take the chance. KSI would consider a malfunction and ignore. "...He's been playing KSI all this time..."
Supposedly the KSI Boss models turned into military jets designed by KSI. As Starscream has shown, a transformer with an Earth Jet mode can still break Earths gravitational pull, so it isn't out of the question.
Glad to see one of these again. I figured the same but the detective work was pretty good. I appreciate that you took the time to explain how Megatron got to Quintessa, and how he could have done so by the start of the movie. For future videos I'd love to hear your analysis on a few things. 1. Unicron. (just your take on the live action version) 2. was Lockdown just specifically hunting the Dinobot (knights) and not the other 12. i.e. would quintessa have used the dinobots for her plan in TLK. 3. did most of the autobots leave earth after WW2. (Optimus, Ironhide etc.) leaving only bumblebee and maybe Drift (who was in Japan at the time). Makes sense to me as to why they returned in 2007 anyway.
I just realized that Galvatron was heading toward the jungle where the crashed knight "trophy" ship crash landed. Maybe he forced it to "recognize" him as one of its knights.
You also forgot another clue. Megatron was sighted at every horn location of Unicron. No one knew before this that that was Unicron but Quintessa. So she had to have met Megatron earlier and told him where each of the Unicron Horns were located. Plus it's really simple to figure these things out if you watch these movies with an open mind without bias thoughts based on a G1 love affair and you will catch everything within the movies. Details of the filming of "The Last Knight" and the reasons why the full story was not presented. Firstly: we would have not only seen the interaction between Quintessa and Megatron. We would have also seen a bit of both Megatron and Optimus Prime origin story when Optimus was Orion Pax and Megatron was a gladiator. And how the two became bitter enemies in the beginning stages of the war. Ben spoke about what was going to be in "The Last Knight" in a interview. Why didn't we see it?: We didn't see because it was cut out to shorten the 3hr 10min runtime. Let me explain. Some asshole leaked the runtime online. Michael Bay and many other executive producers as well as the studio thought that it may turn people off if they already know that the movie is that long. Mind you most of them were pretty long however I can tell you that I never knew how long any of them were til after I saw them. Anyway. So Michael Bay decided on giving it a second edit. And he did. 2 days before the movie premiered. So he rushed it. Steve Jablowsky had spoken about it. And how the scores didn't sound right in certain places because of it. (You can find this online or on youtube) so what we saw in theaters was a second edited edition after the final edit had already been completed. Nearly 40 min of the original edit never made it to the big screen. There were fans who knew about this and was hoping that Paramount would release and extended version of the film on Blu-Ray/DVD. Unfortunately Paramount and M. Bay basically said "FUKIT" and I really don't blame them. You have to go into the behind the scene discussions on how much pressure they were under with every film. And if anyone thinks that Hasbro had nothing to do with these Transformers movies. You're wrong. They had alot of input throughout the series. They wanted the Transformers to look updated. They knew that this was going to be another universe of Transformers like the many other different universes, looks feel and designs these characters has had before the movies. They played a very strong hand in it. Because like Marvel, Hasbro was going bankrupt and the Transformers movie was their last hope. They going to start selling their licensed properties including the T-formers. Michael Bay and DreamWorks helped them do that to the point that Hasbro like Marvel own their own movie Studio. So you can hate these movies, find all kinds of ridiculous reasons to down them. Doesnt matter to Hasbro. These movies combined grossed over 5Billion dollars at the box office and merchandising.
I can't remember where, but I saw somewhere that after he was given the cybertroian body, he purged himself of all his prior "earth" forms and went back to something more from Cybertron. As such, he went back to Megatron.
Could just be me but I have theory on megatro I'm not sure if anyone else has thought about it. If you watch the first 3 movies hugo weaving megatron is more savage and doesnt care for humans. When frank Welker came to these movies starting with age of extinction his interpretation of megatron is so completely different and it feels wierd hes become more sympathetic calling his cons his brothers and feeling sad when he finds starscreams head I think that theres Two different megatron's in the bayverse.
It wasn't the first time Galvatron turned back into Megatron. In the original continuity, Galvatron somehow turned back into Megatron and became an Actionmaster. His last animated appearance was in a Micromasters commercial. It's all true. See for yourself.
Great video man had to leave a sub for it! Just a quick suggestion... did you see ironhides head in the junkyard? You should make a vid cause there is no other reliable transformers theorists that i trust???
We don't see Barricade die. We see him get shot up a bunch by humans, then we don't see him until TLK where he has a heavily rebuilt body with a much denser and tougher look. The dots aren't difficult to connect here.
Basically according to TLK Earth is an exo-planet, one that was artificially created by cosmic debris, asteroids and landmass coalescing around the body of Unicron (who is supposedly so impossibly huge that his body had a gravitational pull of its own), so that Unicron's body would become Earth's core.
I just think Michael Bay screamed up the movie series. He should have done more research but instead he changed it every movie. Him and Rian Johnson both screwed up what movies they worked on.
Ah yes, because fighting over cubes of energy, bringing Cybertron to Earth, and having Transformers fuck around with the knights of the round table were DEFINITELY all things created by Bay.
I find it hillarious how you are able to put this together through surface level details yet everyone claims it's bad writing because there wasn't a wall of exposition text directly explaining how it happened.
Ik how Galvatron turn into Megatron. On the transformers 4 u can see on the end, Galvatron escaped and he's going to the ship Of quintessa (did I spelled that right? Idk) And quintessa changed galvatron into Megatron again. -Thank you for reading
Hey man, good video. I however only lasted 12 minutes of the last night before i had to turn it off. Never been back. Still watch the first 3 with my kids but after that it just falls apart. I miss Sam and his mum and dad.
Yahomiej Yep. That was meant for when Bumblebee was half transformed so they just got a cheaper convertible for the shot since they wouldn’t be showing the front of the car.
I got something to say this video is so wrong quintessa did not give Megatron a new form that is all wrong have you seen the Transformer movies have you seen Transformers age of Extinction when Optimus Prime change into a different Optimus Prime mode he was in knight mode
flora cole dude I get what your saying that maybe he could’ve just scanned another vehicle, but consider this where in the world did he scan that cybertronian jet? And no, even if he managed to scan another vehicle he would still have the transformnium cube-thingies while he transforms
Dominic Parker bro I know that megatron got slapped by quintessa I’m just helping prove a point that he didn’t just change vehicle by himself to get a different look just like Optimus Prime did to get his Knight form. You get what I’m saying
Remember after the final battle Quintessa opened the space bridge and fled away??.. So I guess, Galvatron couldn't visit Quintessa as he has merely truck vehicle mode.. Instead, Quintessa visited Galvatron using space bridge, converted him to Megatron and gave him the knowledge of Talisman and staff, just like she shared the knowledge of staff with Optimus.. then she went again to bring Cybertron to Earth/Unicorn..
Technically, this rendition of Megatron is the closet in the Bayverse to his G1 counterpart, looking similar plus same style of an arm cannon. Also, his sword is very realistic, a sword likr that could realistically exist and actually be of some use.
When galvatron was roaming free quintessa opened a space bridge transporting galvatron to the barren cybertron after his arrival quintessa gave him a choice to be rebuilt and seek redemption and find the staff of merlin which explains the red mark on his left side of his face now if you watched the beginning part of the last knight when prime lands on cybertron he runs into quintessa who then later asks him if he seeks redemption and then gets a red mark on the right side of his face. I really like your vids keep up the good work
This is a much better explanation that I’ve heard for this; better because it’s succinct and to the point and not the rambling nonsense of the other ones.👍👍👍
darktrooper2099 He said it to the Fallen during the battle in Egypt in the second one, where the Fallen was attempting to use the Star Harvester to destroy the Sun. During the battle, if I remember correctly, I think Optimus used the Fallen's own staff after he broke it in two to grab onto the Fallen's faceplate and pried it off, before ripping his spark out.
@@kevinbacon5492 Gee it's almost like he's been fighting in a war for 4 million years. Also lets take a look at that kill count. 2007: 0. Despite appearing to kill Bonecrusher to prevent him from harming more humans, Bonecrusher returned in ROTF. Considering it was Sam who killed Megatron, and the other Decepticons were taken down by human military and the Autobots. ROTF: 3+ a few nameless Decepticons. As for Demolishor you should be educated on how Humans would treat a hostile alien military invading out planet: We fucking wouldn't tolerate it. Despite Megatron being dead, Decepticons kept coming to Earth, and if the Autobots wanted to stay they had to help humanity get rid of Decepticons. Considering they're shapeshifters they have plenty of opportunity to fuck off from Earth, and they don't. In fact, Demolishor goes on a rampage killing dozens of innocent civilians and causing massive property damage which is exactly what we fucking don't want. Optimus was likely under orders from human military, and even then he hesitates and gives Demolishor a last send out before he has to finish him off. Grindor. Ah yes, the forrest fight scene, hailed as the best singular fight scene from these movies. Optimus goes up against 3 opponents, and as any logical person would know fighting two people is easier than fighting three. Considering the unrelenting attacks from Grindor despite Optimus cutting his primary weapon off, in an effort to preserve his own life in the fight (See the second law of robotics) as well as protecting Sam (See first law of robotics) he takes out the large Decepticon. In the same fight the disarmed Starscream had backed off and posed little of a threat. Fallen: Motherfucker was trying to blow up the sun. He had also come back from the dead when he had already been defeated, so simply beating the shit out of him would only be a temporary conclusion. How the fuck else does this needs to be justified. As for the protoforms... dude, it's a war. people die in a war. People kill people IN A WAR. That's how fucking war works. It isn't constantly shoot at the enimy and every single shot misses or fucking does nothing because it's a shitty cartoon from the 80's, it's actual war with real consequences. DOTM: fuck it I've lost count. Few decepticon foot soldiers. See rant reminding you what war is above. Shockwave: Gee it's almost like taking out an enemy military general is a smart and strategic thing to do in a FUCKING WAR. Driller: Gee it's almost like taking out massive enemy weapons is a smart and strategic thing to do in a FUCKING WAR. Sentinel and Megatron: The only point of which your bullshit might actually hold water, if it wasn't for the fact that being forced to kill people in a fucking war leaves massive mental trauma. Combi9ne that with the already existing PTSD, the betrayal of his father figure, and that one asshole who's already died but come back to enact complete genocide 3 god damn times and you'd probably want to put the fucker down too. But hey, it's all for the humans, right? AOE: Snap, Humanity turns right around and fucks him over. The people he fought so hard for and even died for are now hunting down and killing his friends. Now due to this little process called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT (Which Optimus Prime has basically never had before until this point) he doesn't know what he is even fighting for anymore, and likely doesn't really give a fuck. He'll fight to preserve his own life, and do a quick save to help out Marky Mark and his funky bunch since they helped him out, but ultimately he wants to leave Earth behind and tries to scram the first chance he gets. At this point a kill count is irrelivent since mos of what he kills are mindless drones, that one military jackass to save his friend, and Lockdown who was also trying to kill his friend. TLK: Guess what? That broken mental physce of Optimus leads the dude to being mind controlled where he becomes the villain. Not sure how that is hard to understand, but there it is spelt out for you. So by extension of this his kills are being influenced by someone else.
The first was the worst one! Utter garbage, if anyone is going to jump on trash movie bandwagon...nevermind, talking to braindead people about a braindead comic series is retarded.
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marlinfan1995 it's supposedly not supposebly
@@matthewthechosenoneflatt1452 I understand that. Mistakes happen
marlinfan1995 how did Megatron become Galva Tron
I was just wondering about this yesterday, didn't search any transformers and yet today its in my recommended, youtube has some very weird supernatural power about it lol
Decepticons travels from earth to cybertron and vice cersa really fast if we take a look at revenge of fallen where after getting revived he directly travels to cybertron and then back to earth again
Micheal Bay just forgot that he turned Megatron into Galvatron.
(He also forgot that Cybertron was destroyed)
Let's be honest. He forgot the autobots killed long hook, thencreated devastator, and then while devastator was on a pyramid and had the constructicons fighting the autobots elsewhere. Michael Bay should've been fired then.
Let's just assume he didn't forget anything, so to satisfy ourselves, I propose the following:
Galvatron turning back to Megatron as explained in the vid.
Cybertron actually looks smaller in The Last Knight than how it appeared in Transformers 3 (it was way bigger than Earth), so it must be the remains.
As for the constructicons thing, there's more than one of each type of vehicle, for example.... Long Haul isn't the only constructicon who turns into that kind of truck.
Wew.
@Skip Bayless yeah, exactly what I meant. Sorry, didn't phrase it right.
Plotbot TRANSFORM!!!
B R I C K. The transformer movie with dinobot at hongkong is a nightmare that even micheal bay wish to forgotten
We still need to pay respects to our boi, Ironhide in transformers 3.
Esmeralda Diaz Ironhide is the only good thing that came from Bayformers
The bay Iron hide was my favourite
Esmeralda Diaz and shockwave, and ratchet, and jazz, and starscream, a actual fearsome megatron
LeakyBumHole yeah rip OG bay megs in the 07 movie maybe like after each time he died he lost a part of himself for good so he doesn’t come back the same
Skye Volt il, it was a shame seeing megatron making deals with humans in the 5th one, the megatron i know, would’ve killed them and busted all the decepticons outta there, that wouldve been cool
Cool to see that some people are able to make sense of Michael bay's nonsense :P
Schner1 Gave this video a thumbs up but we all know it’s just writers failing to keep continuity within their films.
MB's transformers is so weak... After the 1st one it all sucked
Mrdude88, for real though
Isn't Michael bay just in charge of the filming of the movie and not the actual story
The Devil Room, Bay not write the scripts personally but he is still in charge of them, and can easily alter any scripts to his liking. And he did none of that in this sequel and just tagged along with the inconsistencies. He's the director. So he pretty much could alter anything at this point.
The answer is simple. Megatron is cooler.
The NuttyNiNjA answer is more simple, bay gives no fucks about continuity. I mean fuck the guy playing Merlin also played the owner of the company making the earth transformers in the movie before this one
Indeed
Jeff Slaughter that’s Stanley tucci
I wouldn’t say megatron is cooler he is just more well known so if you ask people who’s cooler they would say megaton but they are both cool characters it would be nice to know what happened and know if the writers just had a brain or something cool happened
Anish Vattappara I get that I personally like Megatron more as a character & his personality. But I agree they are both cool character's.
3:35. Funny. It´s the Decepticons gets "lock up", while the Autobots gets "melted down".
I think what happened was , There were many more cells, in them could’ve been more autobots. In AOE the reason the autobots died were lockdown, Ratchet surrendered which led the humans to hold their fire, they probably would’ve let them live but lockdown needed information on where is optimus prime so he killed the autobots until they’d give him information, lockdown didn’t do this to the decepticon s because they didn’t know of Optimus whereabouts. So lockdown killed the autobots Unless they have them infromation(If lockdown isn’t there and the autobots surrender they’d be takin prisoner) But lockdown let’s decepticon live because he honestly doesn’t even bother with them since they didn’t know where Optimus was.
It's because Cemetery Wind is radical kill em all movement unauthorized by us goverment, while Transformers Reaction Force is a UN funded task force.
NNightwind cause the autobots are more violent than the decepticons in the bayverse
Lockup and Meltdown are actually REALLY good names for Decepticons
The Bay movies were shit with no continuity plans or full understanding of its lore. Accept that and move on.
Next transformers movie : unicron transforming for 3 hours
I've been waiting for the next transformers movie.
And humans screaming for another 10 hours
It was cancelled as because transformers 5 did not show any thing good on box office
@@lisasbang8634 they made almost triple on box office
Bro Unicron is gonna be scary. Do u really know how big he is? Like he got all 6 of his horns sticking out no picture the rest of his body. He’s gonna be hugeeeeeee.
As much of a transformers fan I am
TF5 literally disgusted me and this movie was just terrible n just let me down hardcore, you can tell they ran out of ideas with this movie since Bay thought he was done when he made DOTM
Yes, it should have ended with the third movie
I understand man I love Transformers with a passion but tf 5 was horrendous
AlexCH27 tf4 was great, but tf5 was soooo terrible ;-:
jjemerald I loved tf4 that’s my second favorite tf movie
Vinny R bro honestly the only thing I really liked about tf5 was the that bumblbee was a zl1
You can not fix Bayformers, no matter how good you are at fan theory.
True
Would’ve been much easier if they stopped at 3 movies lol
The only good thing about Bayformers was Peter Cullen as Prime
Lol
Try again
Michael Bay: Remember Transformeioum?
Fans: Yes
Michael Bay: No you don’t
Micheal Bay: Check out this new cool way the Decepticons transform.
Fans: Ew, gross.
Micheal Bay: Fine, I'll fix it.
Fans: Y u do dat?
Why does cybertron still exist , i mean wasnt it destroyed in tf 3?
Onestly i only care about tf 1-3 and the rest is just Garbage
xxcrysiscgx _ Starting from the 4th to 5th it fucked my brain up really hard man too difficult to sum the story properly. I mean i would really like to be able to come to a conclusion with this movies and stories but it's just really difficult.
No, Cybertron wasn’t completely destroyed. The bridge collapsed and it was teleported away from earth and back to its original spot in the galaxy. Part of the planet was caught in the collapse however, and Optimus clearly notes in TLK that Cybertron is nearly destroyed.
Apparently not enough XX
i agree
I don’t know what you’re on, but 1-3 was trash, 4 was the only good one.
You got to feel bad for Megatron, He has been killed twice, brought into body’s he doesn’t know how to control well, betrayed by a true friend or a brother in his eyes, and only wants to fight for the survival of his race
Man if he wasn't trying to commit mass genocide you really would root for him.
Of all things he's done that's what you think of him? Man, that's sad.
@@NexusProductions-rz1svsounds familiar
@@n3ptune-v5w NAH BRO💀
HELL YEAH BRO@@universalyoutuber195
Just imagine if megatron came back in a dramatic way in his original form. Man that would’ve given me chills
This one is better
The original TF1 form was something else.. literally everyone but prime feared him
This theory really makes sense. Thx for making this video.
"Returning Megatron to his former glory".
But.... Galvatron is literally a far superior form.
Jack Raiden True
Galvatron J.R,G-A-L-V-A-T-R-O-N,but fully agree
Optimus couldn’t even beat him on their first fight
Not really in the movies, and I think megaton wanted a cybertronian form because his "galvatron" form as created by humans, and we all know how he feels about humans. So megaton probably would see it as his "former glory"
@@darktrooper2099 Sorry, that was just a typing mistake. Fixed it. xD
"We will meet again, Prime... for I am reborn!"
I like the first four Transformers films (some more than others) but The Last Knight was just... terrible. I had literally no idea what was going on, it made no sense from a story perspective. Things were just happening for seemingly no reason. Was disappointed because a lot of it was in England, which was nice to see for a change, and I do like the designs of the Transformers themselves, Megatron especially I adore! Much better than his Galvatron form... and thank god for Frank Weller!
The movies' suck next to the anime!
darktrooper2099 lol wat
You heard me
@@DangerVille Dangerville here?!?!?
@@DangerVille whoa!
Why didn't they just hired you to connect the plot holes in them movies??? I guess it would have killed them to have a semblance of logic XD
So Megatron coming back out of the blue is now explained. It was because Optimus Prime and Megatron got bitchslapped by their Mama...ok got, you deserve a Like
Knight Megatron looks good compare to Megatron from Transformers, Revenge of the Fallen, and the Dark of the Moon.
Sorry but rotf Megatron Tank - Jet hybrid has no competition..
I like the dotm megatron and tlk
Tlk megaton looks so bad compared to his previous versions aside from galvatron
Bruh this is known as an incorrect opinion
I cant agree, if you think he looks better you are probably blind. Megatron from Revenge of fallen looks absolutly incredible, in first and third movie he looked incredible as well. Galvatron was ~ not that good but it was still ok but now, now he is poor pathetic piece of shit that cant’t even fight. 1v1 with optimus was short as hell mabye only 20 seconds after that he lost his arm and felt from the sky. Sad how this good main villian dissapeard.
I appreciate how much time, and thought you put into these Transformers videos. It nice seeing fans of this universe.
Awesome job! I'm thinking that Galvatron was able to catch up with Optimus, defeated him (why he was powered down) and took the seed. He met Quintessa, became Megatron, and together they used the seed to string remaining pieces of Cybertron together. Also, I really like your theory of Megatron having just landed in Chicago at the beginning of The Last Knight. Could be why everyone seemed pretty shocked that he had "returned" as the marketing said.
Why does that sound like the plot of beast machines
i really hate how they look like knights/humans, i mess the 2007-2011.
I LOVE IT!
Dj ortiz l agree.
I'm not hate it, i love it
Megatron in TF1 looked more a Predacon than a Megatron. His tlk design is way more iconic and better than all his others
And Megatron has always been a gladiator in most universes, so don't shit about the fact of him looking like a gladiator
One of his best versions, TFP Megatron, also looked like a Gladiator
You've spent more time and effort in this than the actual writers of the movies
Also in AOE After Optimus Wrecks Lockdown and activates his grenade Galvatron said We shall meet again Prime for I am reborn.
Wasn't that cuz Galvatron literally had an upperhand due to him not being a normal transformer
Prismatic Rage I’m not sure. Could have been, but it makes sense either way
Good point
Neel Javia exactly these fuckers are retarded glad you understand
People going "Why is Megatron back" completely forget that Galvatron is just Megatron.
but why turn him back, he was already invulnerable, like basically perfect, what a dumb ass excuse for turning back to an old urban form😕
because the earth lings made that body and he hates humans
HD Keemii and this is why Megatron is stupid
and they dont even look like transformer rather then just giants in armor
Anthony Hero Galvatron isn't invulnerable. Those KSI drones that Galvatron took over were getting munched by the Dinobots. Although Galvatron becoming Megatron reminds me of that Transformers Unicron Trilogy were Megatron becomes Galvatron in Armada. And then becomes Megatron again in Energon only to become Galvatron again. And then Transformers Cybertron has him becoming Megatron again only to become Galvatron later on.
bagsikdangal that's actually pretty funny going from megatron to galvatron then back again and so on
They all look way too humanoid...
At least bumblebee still has the same looks...
Cause in GeeWun they all had mouths and shit.
Problem with that? They are aliens, what did you expect? At least they are more complex
They're aliens, so, what? They should look more human? At least in the cartoons they looked like robots that tra stormed into vehicles.
@@amitypredator9385 they should look complex. You see, they don't even look simple human cars, they even look cybertronian
The red mark that Megatron and Optimus share does back up your theory good job👍🏻 this would really help the last knight’s garbage story too
It's almost like it is intentional visual storytelling, which is the point of stuff like movies and shows.
I was confused when I went to see The Last Knight in theaters, but once I saw Quintessa turn Optimus into Nemesis, I remembered that Megatron had the same red on his face and put 2 and 2 together, coming to the same conclusion you did
Yes, that is what you're supposed to do. It's this thing called visial storytelling, and it's the reason Movies even exist.
Hmm What If She Tricked Megatron Into Stealing The AllSpark
@@NexusProductions-rz1svThe problem is that these movies spend most of their 2h30m runtime with useless unlikeable character moments instead of these actual important moments. And then creating random shit just to create it. Fuck it. Bumblebee kills Nazis and there's a two or so minute montage of random important people being Witwickans. What's that? The main antagonist's return being explained? Nahhhh... visual storytelling, man. You should be able to tell from a scar.
Here's the second episode! Sorry for the wait. I was holding onto this until a friend finished an intro but we decided to just wait until episode three to use it. Hope you enjoy the video and remember to leave suggestions for future episodes!
marlinfan1995
I would really like you to solve some of these questions that has been unanswered since the 1st film up to 5th. Why are all transformers color eyes mixed in both factions/sides and what does the green eyes from Lockdown, Devastator and Steelbane all means? The usual answer that everyone are using is that “these color eyes are all over the place”. To me I made my own answers on it and would be interested on what you would say and solve about this. I’d say that the green eyes means (responsibility) since Lockdown, Devastator and Steelbane all had tasks and responsibilities to deal with. Lockdown had to find Optimus to retreat to his creators/Quintessa. Devastator had to suck an entire pyramid to get the sun harvester to completely function. We didn’t see Steelbane do much but he had to keep the talisman in safety and give to ones that he sees earns it and be chosen to have it. As for some transformers having blue and red eyes for both sides like Alice-con, Frenzy, Jetfire and the dinobots while all good still has a mixture of blue and red in both their robot and Dino modes. I don’t really know but it’s probably what makes those transformers look good facially :/
its obvious. so many vids already explained it
marlinfan1995 ksi is also a TH-camr
marlinfan1995 another thing time runs different in space there is no day and night so optimus could have been floating longer
I like the inconsistency. It reminds me of the generation one cartoons.
Man we needed YOU writing and directing the movies, the stories in transformers movies jump ALL over the place.
Great video ! Thank you man !
I think that Megatron told Quintessa a fake story about the destruction of Cybertron, he told her that Optimus was the only responsible, that could explain the first conversation with Optimus and Quintessa ("your war destroyed Cybertron"). And I think that Megatron also told Quintessa that Optimus would try to accuse him, that would explain Quintessa's reaction ! What do you think of that ?
Definitely a possibility.
I just watched the Optimus/Quintessa scene again, that makes sense. I think that Megatron also told Quintessa that Optimus would try to accuse him, that would explain Quintessa's reaction ! :p
(Sorry for english, not my first language ^^)
Nice name, Shockwave.
Shockwave that idea is... logical.
Not likely, Megatron is mind controlled by Quintessa (red face mark), and "Your war" most likely refers to Cybertronians in general.
What makes absolute no sense is Galvatron reaching Quintessa before Prime
My dude, you've put more effort into writing the script for this video than any of the professional writers between sequels. Good on you.
This was actually my biggest question about the continuity for him between these films. This actually helps, even if it is a theory
4:25 Former Glory? Isn't Galvatron an improvement on Megatron?
Yeah, that artificial body with the Transformium made him pretty much invulnerable compared to his other forms. He could manipulate his individual cells and all
I'd say in their eyes it's a disgusting amalgamation of their salvaged material with lowly human tech
KSI had projects for space exploring. What if Galvatron made to Cybertron through one of these projects earlier than even Age of extincion events? A random body he "infected" I mean. KSI had various bodies of galvatron they interrupted the production, since they wanted it to had Optimus form. If they recycle Galvatron body every time they interrupted, in the end it could be "infected material" if Transformium had their "DNA". Considering this, there is a probability of more than 1, or maybe, more than 2 Galvatrons in random bodies. Maybe even more. He could be everywhere in KSI production lines.
All of this is considering that scene of their projects on the moon really happened. It might happened if they knew (whatever how they did) about that crash site. Or maybe, they went to moon just to say they could (a strong marketing play).
So, Galvatron (in a random body) could take the chance. KSI would consider a malfunction and ignore.
"...He's been playing KSI all this time..."
Supposedly the KSI Boss models turned into military jets designed by KSI. As Starscream has shown, a transformer with an Earth Jet mode can still break Earths gravitational pull, so it isn't out of the question.
Great video Marlin! I absolutely can’t wait for more episodes on this series.
Patrick Thanks! Glad you like them!
Thx for the explanation I needed it
galvatron says we shall meet again for i am reborn
Glad to see one of these again. I figured the same but the detective work was pretty good. I appreciate that you took the time to explain how Megatron got to Quintessa, and how he could have done so by the start of the movie. For future videos I'd love to hear your analysis on a few things.
1. Unicron. (just your take on the live action version)
2. was Lockdown just specifically hunting the Dinobot (knights) and not the other 12. i.e. would quintessa have used the dinobots for her plan in TLK.
3. did most of the autobots leave earth after WW2. (Optimus, Ironhide etc.) leaving only bumblebee and maybe Drift (who was in Japan at the time). Makes sense to me as to why they returned in 2007 anyway.
I was just happy to see Megatron had returned to the good old school style!
Can we just accept that Tlk Megatron is just the live action Super Megatron
I just realized that Galvatron was heading toward the jungle where the crashed knight "trophy" ship crash landed. Maybe he forced it to "recognize" him as one of its knights.
Here's how he became Megatron. Galvatron: We shall meet again prime for i am Reborn. That's the answer.
this needs more views
You also forgot another clue. Megatron was sighted at every horn location of Unicron. No one knew before this that that was Unicron but Quintessa. So she had to have met Megatron earlier and told him where each of the Unicron Horns were located. Plus it's really simple to figure these things out if you watch these movies with an open mind without bias thoughts based on a G1 love affair and you will catch everything within the movies.
Details of the filming of "The Last Knight" and the reasons why the full story was not presented.
Firstly: we would have not only seen the interaction between Quintessa and Megatron. We would have also seen a bit of both Megatron and Optimus Prime origin story when Optimus was Orion Pax and Megatron was a gladiator. And how the two became bitter enemies in the beginning stages of the war. Ben spoke about what was going to be in "The Last Knight" in a interview.
Why didn't we see it?:
We didn't see because it was cut out to shorten the 3hr 10min runtime.
Let me explain.
Some asshole leaked the runtime online. Michael Bay and many other executive producers as well as the studio thought that it may turn people off if they already know that the movie is that long. Mind you most of them were pretty long however I can tell you that I never knew how long any of them were til after I saw them. Anyway. So Michael Bay decided on giving it a second edit. And he did. 2 days before the movie premiered. So he rushed it. Steve Jablowsky had spoken about it. And how the scores didn't sound right in certain places because of it. (You can find this online or on youtube) so what we saw in theaters was a second edited edition after the final edit had already been completed. Nearly 40 min of the original edit never made it to the big screen. There were fans who knew about this and was hoping that Paramount would release and extended version of the film on Blu-Ray/DVD. Unfortunately Paramount and M. Bay basically said "FUKIT" and I really don't blame them. You have to go into the behind the scene discussions on how much pressure they were under with every film. And if anyone thinks that Hasbro had nothing to do with these Transformers movies. You're wrong. They had alot of input throughout the series. They wanted the Transformers to look updated. They knew that this was going to be another universe of Transformers like the many other different universes, looks feel and designs these characters has had before the movies. They played a very strong hand in it. Because like Marvel, Hasbro was going bankrupt and the Transformers movie was their last hope. They going to start selling their licensed properties including the T-formers. Michael Bay and DreamWorks helped them do that to the point that Hasbro like Marvel own their own movie Studio. So you can hate these movies, find all kinds of ridiculous reasons to down them. Doesnt matter to Hasbro. These movies combined grossed over 5Billion dollars at the box office and merchandising.
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I can't remember where, but I saw somewhere that after he was given the cybertroian body, he purged himself of all his prior "earth" forms and went back to something more from Cybertron. As such, he went back to Megatron.
If Megatron didn't end up ditching the Galvatron body, he wouldn't have died in The Last Knight.
Videre Licet we don’t know if he is dead
He didn't die he can fly without transforming which means even without an arm he can fly
He already didn't die in TLK.
This guy makes good explaining videos, nice job man!
Could just be me but I have theory on megatro I'm not sure if anyone else has thought about it. If you watch the first 3 movies hugo weaving megatron is more savage and doesnt care for humans. When frank Welker came to these movies starting with age of extinction his interpretation of megatron is so completely different and it feels wierd hes become more sympathetic calling his cons his brothers and feeling sad when he finds starscreams head I think that theres Two different megatron's in the bayverse.
Wow! I'm convinced! Great video!
CHECK OUT EPISODE 10! Why did Transformers The Last Knight Fail? th-cam.com/video/7QXGTC8fd_E/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for promptly explaining that people criticize things they don't understand when people like you explain it it makes a whole lot more sense
it really helped alot
marlinfan1995
Kd
Can you make a video about unicrons origins? Please it would be awesome.
2:01 : meg and prime are brothers
Can you give me the source of stopmotion at minute 0:33 :D
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0:26, Galvatron "We will meet again Prime, for I am reborn!"
It wasn't the first time Galvatron turned back into Megatron. In the original continuity, Galvatron somehow turned back into Megatron and became an Actionmaster. His last animated appearance was in a Micromasters commercial. It's all true. See for yourself.
Great video man had to leave a sub for it! Just a quick suggestion... did you see ironhides head in the junkyard? You should make a vid cause there is no other reliable transformers theorists that i trust???
its not ironhide
Yeah, it's not Ironhide. The head is a different shape. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Glad you did the writer's and director's jobs for them
How about you do a episode where you explain how barricade is back because he got murderd just wondering because of how confusing the bay verse is
We don't see Barricade die. We see him get shot up a bunch by humans, then we don't see him until TLK where he has a heavily rebuilt body with a much denser and tougher look. The dots aren't difficult to connect here.
It’s like war frame where ballas says “ Lua brings you strength but you Cannot defy you creator”
We will never know if transformers 6 will be a movie.
@Dominic Parker its a different movie
@Hazami Azman nope it's a reboot
2:09,what do you think?
Is that Sam in the other transformer movies but older???I think it is
The movie still suck..how earth is Unicron?
Basically according to TLK Earth is an exo-planet, one that was artificially created by cosmic debris, asteroids and landmass coalescing around the body of Unicron (who is supposedly so impossibly huge that his body had a gravitational pull of its own), so that Unicron's body would become Earth's core.
This idea was first brought forth by the Transformers:Prime TV series.
There is clip here on TH-cam that I reference to show that Transformers are more than mindless entertainment. Search transformers +prime+kilts.
To sum it up Unicorn went into stasis and all the debris and rocks and such piled up around them creating Earth.
Is no one going to talk about his stupid ass grammar?
My favorite Megatron, I wish there's more scenes of him in battle longer.
I just think Michael Bay screamed up the movie series. He should have done more research but instead he changed it every movie. Him and Rian Johnson both screwed up what movies they worked on.
Ah yes, because fighting over cubes of energy, bringing Cybertron to Earth, and having Transformers fuck around with the knights of the round table were DEFINITELY all things created by Bay.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv it’s not even that it’s the way he went about it..
@@nathanielurbina1034 Typically when someone says that they can also elaborate.
Because the thing is, Bay didn't really do anything that G1 didn't do.
I watched this movie not realizing that Galvatron was in it until I watched a recap video on TH-cam.
I’m not a fan that galvatron was man made instead of repair by unicron
Omg thank you... I thought I was the only one on the face of the Earth that notice the red slap Mark and put two and two together
I know, it's ridiculous how people can have a visual connection placed right in front of them yet still have to be told how it works.
That actually makes perfect sense thanks for the info
Really thought it was just because Michael Bay doesn't give a shit about the audience.
So basically just like anyone else,correct?
darktrooper2099 something like that.
Zydrake Shogun::::I know.......what the hell is the world coming to?
Dominic Parker::::::To say at the least
I mean he doesn’t, he sees people as walking wallets who will watch any shit as long as it has explosions in it.
I find it hillarious how you are able to put this together through surface level details yet everyone claims it's bad writing because there wasn't a wall of exposition text directly explaining how it happened.
Lets hope their writers subscribe to you
Quintessa couldn’t possibly be the creator of the Transformers because she is a Transformer which means someone made her
Ik how Galvatron turn into Megatron.
On the transformers 4 u can see on the end, Galvatron escaped and he's going to the ship
Of quintessa (did I spelled that right? Idk)
And quintessa changed galvatron into Megatron again.
-Thank you for reading
Hey man, good video. I however only lasted 12 minutes of the last night before i had to turn it off. Never been back. Still watch the first 3 with my kids but after that it just falls apart. I miss Sam and his mum and dad.
0:10 wtf Thats a v6 camaro
Yahomiej Yep. That was meant for when Bumblebee was half transformed so they just got a cheaper convertible for the shot since they wouldn’t be showing the front of the car.
1:56-2:01 turn on auto generated captions
I know that these are not accurate, so don’t trash me
The only thing good thing that came from TF5, is Megatron and Optimus's new design's
Well, one plus-side of Megatron's transition from Galvatron; at least he finally got his famous arm-cannon.
I got something to say this video is so wrong quintessa did not give Megatron a new form that is all wrong have you seen the Transformer movies have you seen Transformers age of Extinction when Optimus Prime change into a different Optimus Prime mode he was in knight mode
flora cole dude I get what your saying that maybe he could’ve just scanned another vehicle, but consider this where in the world did he scan that cybertronian jet? And no, even if he managed to scan another vehicle he would still have the transformnium cube-thingies while he transforms
Dominic Parker bro I know that megatron got slapped by quintessa I’m just helping prove a point that he didn’t just change vehicle by himself to get a different look just like Optimus Prime did to get his Knight form. You get what I’m saying
Dominic Parker yes honestly I wish a new determined director than can make the next movies epically by staying true to their G1 story
@Dominic Parker Wow thats an ignorant viewpoint their. Considering it has classic G1 designs. Hardly a middle finger.
@Dominic Parker And the John Cena part? That was the crux of my point you just completely ignored.
Remember after the final battle Quintessa opened the space bridge and fled away??.. So I guess, Galvatron couldn't visit Quintessa as he has merely truck vehicle mode.. Instead, Quintessa visited Galvatron using space bridge, converted him to Megatron and gave him the knowledge of Talisman and staff, just like she shared the knowledge of staff with Optimus.. then she went again to bring Cybertron to Earth/Unicorn..
Yeah but still be better if they show it in the movie
A very well thought out fan theory. I love it.
Technically, this rendition of Megatron is the closet in the Bayverse to his G1 counterpart, looking similar plus same style of an arm cannon. Also, his sword is very realistic, a sword likr that could realistically exist and actually be of some use.
When galvatron was roaming free quintessa opened a space bridge transporting galvatron to the barren cybertron after his arrival quintessa gave him a choice to be rebuilt and seek redemption and find the staff of merlin which explains the red mark on his left side of his face now if you watched the beginning part of the last knight when prime lands on cybertron he runs into quintessa who then later asks him if he seeks redemption and then gets a red mark on the right side of his face. I really like your vids keep up the good work
Answer: Quintessa turned him ack to Megatron
You're welcome
This is a much better explanation that I’ve heard for this; better because it’s succinct and to the point and not the rambling nonsense of the other ones.👍👍👍
People still watch these movies?
Of course I like action movies and this series delivers
Its K
Honestly, I just watch it for the fights and the visuals
Thanks for explaining because I was confused over time after I had watched the movie
How did unicron get in earth's core to begin with in the first place?
Garrett Wilson he was asleep in after fighting primus and the earth formed around their
Garret Wilson::::,Hollywood,that's how G.W.,Hollywood
Garrett Wilson in this iteration, Earth = Unicron.
Uh-huh,than Cybertron followed.
Primus and Unicron the same size.
Wow this is a great explanation you came up with.
Galveston would have made more sense with unicorn and hot rod
Texas?????Uh-uh,too small
I'm sure he did Oscar
Spirited Spy Galveston and Unicorn? 1986 is pre-autocorrect.
Galveston??????Aren't you referring to Galvatron?
Thanks , I always think where is galvatron gone , after movie credit scene .. thanks a. Lot
I don’t care how it happened Michael bay is stupid and made transformers a bad movie series. Optimus said in the second movie “give me your face”
Give me your face??????? To who & why?
darktrooper2099 who knows, bayformer Optimus Prime is a murderous asshole who will kill anything.
darktrooper2099 He said it to the Fallen during the battle in Egypt in the second one, where the Fallen was attempting to use the Star Harvester to destroy the Sun.
During the battle, if I remember correctly, I think Optimus used the Fallen's own staff after he broke it in two to grab onto the Fallen's faceplate and pried it off, before ripping his spark out.
Yes, and it was epic
@@kevinbacon5492 Gee it's almost like he's been fighting in a war for 4 million years.
Also lets take a look at that kill count.
2007: 0. Despite appearing to kill Bonecrusher to prevent him from harming more humans, Bonecrusher returned in ROTF. Considering it was Sam who killed Megatron, and the other Decepticons were taken down by human military and the Autobots.
ROTF: 3+ a few nameless Decepticons. As for Demolishor you should be educated on how Humans would treat a hostile alien military invading out planet: We fucking wouldn't tolerate it. Despite Megatron being dead, Decepticons kept coming to Earth, and if the Autobots wanted to stay they had to help humanity get rid of Decepticons. Considering they're shapeshifters they have plenty of opportunity to fuck off from Earth, and they don't. In fact, Demolishor goes on a rampage killing dozens of innocent civilians and causing massive property damage which is exactly what we fucking don't want. Optimus was likely under orders from human military, and even then he hesitates and gives Demolishor a last send out before he has to finish him off.
Grindor. Ah yes, the forrest fight scene, hailed as the best singular fight scene from these movies. Optimus goes up against 3 opponents, and as any logical person would know fighting two people is easier than fighting three. Considering the unrelenting attacks from Grindor despite Optimus cutting his primary weapon off, in an effort to preserve his own life in the fight (See the second law of robotics) as well as protecting Sam (See first law of robotics) he takes out the large Decepticon. In the same fight the disarmed Starscream had backed off and posed little of a threat.
Fallen: Motherfucker was trying to blow up the sun. He had also come back from the dead when he had already been defeated, so simply beating the shit out of him would only be a temporary conclusion. How the fuck else does this needs to be justified.
As for the protoforms... dude, it's a war. people die in a war. People kill people IN A WAR. That's how fucking war works. It isn't constantly shoot at the enimy and every single shot misses or fucking does nothing because it's a shitty cartoon from the 80's, it's actual war with real consequences.
DOTM: fuck it I've lost count.
Few decepticon foot soldiers. See rant reminding you what war is above.
Shockwave: Gee it's almost like taking out an enemy military general is a smart and strategic thing to do in a FUCKING WAR.
Driller: Gee it's almost like taking out massive enemy weapons is a smart and strategic thing to do in a FUCKING WAR.
Sentinel and Megatron: The only point of which your bullshit might actually hold water, if it wasn't for the fact that being forced to kill people in a fucking war leaves massive mental trauma. Combi9ne that with the already existing PTSD, the betrayal of his father figure, and that one asshole who's already died but come back to enact complete genocide 3 god damn times and you'd probably want to put the fucker down too. But hey, it's all for the humans, right?
AOE: Snap, Humanity turns right around and fucks him over. The people he fought so hard for and even died for are now hunting down and killing his friends. Now due to this little process called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT (Which Optimus Prime has basically never had before until this point) he doesn't know what he is even fighting for anymore, and likely doesn't really give a fuck. He'll fight to preserve his own life, and do a quick save to help out Marky Mark and his funky bunch since they helped him out, but ultimately he wants to leave Earth behind and tries to scram the first chance he gets. At this point a kill count is irrelivent since mos of what he kills are mindless drones, that one military jackass to save his friend, and Lockdown who was also trying to kill his friend.
TLK: Guess what? That broken mental physce of Optimus leads the dude to being mind controlled where he becomes the villain. Not sure how that is hard to understand, but there it is spelt out for you. So by extension of this his kills are being influenced by someone else.
DAMN, you had some damn good arguments!
These movies are just so incredibly bad
Scott Walsh the first was good but the rest are awful
The first was bad, just not as bad as the others, but it was still bad.
The first was the worst one! Utter garbage, if anyone is going to jump on trash movie bandwagon...nevermind, talking to braindead people about a braindead comic series is retarded.
1-3 movies were good in my opinion, everything went downhill when the 4th came out especially having Mark Walberg he was a bad actor for the role
Mr Slinky dragon 1-3 was good
I see the sense in what you are saying now, Mar! Be well now, Mar!
Transformers 1,2 and 3 are best and 2 was a masterpiece....But 4 and 5 are just 🤦🤷brain eaters
What form is from first generation before the war
1:43 That's the music from the decepticon meet in dark of the moon. I'm a tru tf fan, that's how I know.
Hey great video! ( I already thought of that so it's nice to see I'm not the only one. )