627: Heritage Americans & Palestinian Christians with Munther Isaac

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  • @nattylite1943
    @nattylite1943 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I am so glad you brought on some different perspectives about the Israel/Palestine issue.

  • @erinl1265
    @erinl1265 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This Palestinian issue breaks my heart

  • @jarrettperdue3328
    @jarrettperdue3328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    "Because we're scared, and we're angry."
    Every misused scripture, every moral deficit overlooked, every insult and racial slur, every exaggeration or outright lie, every logical or theological inconsistency ... they all flow from the same spring.

    • @Anabee3
      @Anabee3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Good morning Jarrett. 😊.
      Ty for ignoring negative attn-seeker "MichaelWard". No enabling. 😊.

  • @holyfreak86
    @holyfreak86 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Many christians cheering for Israel instead of thinking how many fellow men, women and children (brothers in the Faith) are actually suffering in this conflict. Thank you for share this interview.

    • @holyfreak86
      @holyfreak86 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@michaelward7051 maybe the problem is the other way around, palestinians have been displaced from their houses and their territory for decades now. There is no comparison of forces between israelies and palestinian and is for that reason that they have had to resort to extremism and terrorism. Just like the irish during the british occupation.

    • @brandonhartgraves5095
      @brandonhartgraves5095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@holyfreak86 curious how you read the Old Testament, when Israel displaces the inhabitants of that particular strip of land at God's direction, so that they can have the land that He promised them? During that time the Jews possessed the land for about 4,000 years, and the Bible has always promised that there would be a time when the land is taken back by God's people Israel after that. Compare that 4,000 years and future promise to the miniscule blip of time that the Arabs conquered and held it. Was there any justice for the Jewish and Christian inhabitants of the land when Islam conquered and displaced them all those years ago?

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@holyfreak86 Michael is here just to contradict any caring and loving statement.
      What worries me is that American Christians only become concerned when they find out Christians are caught up in this.
      If we love God we need to be concerned about any human being systematically erased by a government, no matter what it's called. Yet there are those saying the US should send even more weapons.

    • @-_-DAVe
      @-_-DAVe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Displaced from their territory?? Yes, when they listened to their Arab/Muslim leaders who from the get go wanted to deny any Jewish presence in that space. Why did Jordan never accept the west bank, or atleast work together with them? Why does Egypt not work together with the Gaza strip? The Muslim/Arab world profits by maintaining the immage of 'palestinians' as being poor and downtrodden. It's good for them if the narrative is one of Israel oppressing 'palestinians' rather than the entire Arab/Muslim world wanting to see Israel destroyed. The palestinians haven't just allowed themselves to be weaponized by their own leaders but by the the whole anti Israel movement.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@michaelward7051except the Germans were not being actively and systematically murdered by the people they were oppressing.
      Who is Germany in this discussion?

  • @NintegaDario
    @NintegaDario 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for updating us on Lisa, Phil.
    So happy the treatment is going well. 🙏

  • @-_-DAVe
    @-_-DAVe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Everyone loves a monarchy as long as it's your guy who is king.

  • @bkucenski
    @bkucenski 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Jesus addressed these types of things in the context of a tower that fell and martyrs whose blood was mixed with sacrifices: he said, "repent." Jesus gave absolutely no comfort to people that somehow God has a reason for things happening. The only lesson to learn is that you have no idea when your time is up. We should not be looking for divine intervention. We should be changing our ways.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Divine intervention has already happened with a manger and a cross.
      We don’t need more, we need to do our part.

  • @apolloniapythia9141
    @apolloniapythia9141 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    If I remember right, "god" spared Hitler's life an 7/20/44! And 32 other times.

  • @maddmaddmom
    @maddmaddmom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The very nature of being deceived is that you don’t know your deceived.

  • @2serve4Christ
    @2serve4Christ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:08:20 "I FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF #JESUS.
    To me Jesus✝ is clear in his teachings about never seeking to destroy the other, but to #transform the other into #friends. Jesus's teachings, not naively but strategically centered around #love ❤; love❤ to neighbor; even love❤ to enemy. For Jesus knows that the logic of an eye to an eye could easily turn into the logic of one eye versus 100 eyes and so on. I preach about this all the time that we cannot be prisoners of hatred. ..."
    - Rev Munther Isaac

  • @lisacawyer6896
    @lisacawyer6896 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Phil brought up a good topic of American ideals vs. nativism. This needs more discussion.

  • @jamesba-xd7xf
    @jamesba-xd7xf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    THANK YOU for addressing the genocide in gaza by israel.

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      55:23 Skye still doesn't get it. It's not a "war". It's a genocide.

    • @jamesba-xd7xf
      @jamesba-xd7xf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      let me add....99% of preachers and bible teachers will not touch this issue becouse either 1) they support genocide IF its jews doing it becouse they have been taught to worship israel as God/OR worship the USA as God, 2) they are gutless cowards afraid of being labled "anti semetic" for critisizing israel OR they dont want their ministry hurt by standing for the truth. Ive been banned by julie roys, dr michael brown, and about 20+ other youtube channels for simply crtisizing israel for its mass murder and genocide. . israel spends huge amounts of money buying off ministries and preachers. in 1979 jerry fallwell sr was given a lear jet by prime minister menechem began of israel for his support of israel.

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @michaelward1341 me too. Everyone who says "yes but on October 7" I always reply "this dates back 70 years" but that reply never stays

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @michaelward1341 nothing Israel did was an acceptable response to October 7. The lies they had ready in waiting as to what Hamas did was incredible. Making up stories about babies in ovens, despite the IDF actually being responsible for many Israeli deaths! And then ... Then they go and deliberately kill thousands more children. The hypocrisy is appalling. And so blatant.
      I do wonder what other countries would have done though given the opportunity that was opened up for them on that day, on the background of 70 years of disgusting oppression. Everyone has the right to armed resistance. Is it no wonder that when given such an easy opportunity to do more harm that so many did?
      Don't forget that Israel knew the attack was coming. And even made it easier for them to get through the border...
      Oh and I'm sure us being somewhat understanding of their situation will get us labelled antisemitic. I love all humans. I despise the state of Israel.

    • @-_-DAVe
      @-_-DAVe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's literally not a genocide. But go ahead and keep throwing the word around if that makes it easier for you to be able to demonize one side, who needs truth when we can have feelings. Also it's not necessary for a conflict to be defined as a genocide in order for it to be reprehensible, war is tragedy especially for those who did not choose to be a part of it(that said enough palestinians voted for Hamas allowing them to take control over gaza...)

  • @aosidh
    @aosidh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    WOW, this interview is so important!!

  • @David_Burt_Art
    @David_Burt_Art 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It was one of those weeks in US politics that felt like a year. I’m sure this is the peak, and everything should be chill and uneventful for the next four months. /s

  • @collin6691
    @collin6691 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Home not an idea" is like an inch away from "blood and soil"

  • @lisarandleman6141
    @lisarandleman6141 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m a heritage American. My family white and black have been here since before 1840. I am also African American.
    Them: No you’re not.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And Trump, from a family of recent immigrants, does qualify for some reason.

  • @lisacawyer6896
    @lisacawyer6896 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So many quote Gen 12, but few quote Deut 28 (or Jer 7). The right of Israel to live in the land is conditioned on their obedience.

  • @montsec3445
    @montsec3445 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I admire rev Munther Isaac

  • @76JStucki
    @76JStucki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good to have a focus on Palestinian Christians. Will you be doing a similar focus on Messianic Jews in Israel?

    • @jdtreharne
      @jdtreharne หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess you got your answer

  • @harrisrosenberg7992
    @harrisrosenberg7992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    REVELATION 13:3
    YES ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
    I thought of that right away, and everyone discounted me!

  • @Anabee3
    @Anabee3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I know you guys were just messin around, but we couldn't listen to your podcast while doing things like folding, hanging, or ironing laundry if It changed to a daily printed newsletter.

    • @averageuser4367
      @averageuser4367 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@michaelward7051 using your words, you're an a hole. Please do Jesus a favor and stop claiming to speak for Him.

  • @hapennysparrow
    @hapennysparrow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great discussion, which is what I've come to expect.

  • @ceceliadunn8416
    @ceceliadunn8416 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Their waiting for some vile person to be the beast in revelations, not someone they adore.

  • @2serve4Christ
    @2serve4Christ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    #Thank you for having Rev Isaac on the show.

  • @beverlythrasher8382
    @beverlythrasher8382 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you. I look forward to your podcast each week.

  • @impalaman9707
    @impalaman9707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is the day the bible warned us about---when evil would be called good, and good will be called evil. Hamas is now considered good, and Israel is now considered evil

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Have you looked at what Israel is doing?
      Are you so sure that they’re “good”?

    • @impalaman9707
      @impalaman9707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Justanotherconsumer God's promises to His people are everlasting. They are still His people whether you like it or not, and they will be for all millenia! If He breaks His promises with them, how can we trust God to keep his promises to us?

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@impalaman9707 not according to Jesus and Paul.

    • @impalaman9707
      @impalaman9707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Justanotherconsumer Its not just that---liberals have turned the abortion issue around---they've somehow made it sound like abortion is righteous and opposing abortion is sinful!

    • @-_-DAVe
      @-_-DAVe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @justanotherconsumer how about Hamas?

  • @jsharp3165
    @jsharp3165 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do people not realize that there are no verse numbers in scripture?

  • @maddmaddmom
    @maddmaddmom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The enemy chose Judas to betray Jesus and the enemy will choose the man to deceive Christians. The enemy has chosen Trump for this time of division, violence, hate, and fear. The enemy caused the shooting and spared Trump using John 18:10 because the enemy has no new tricks. He mimics Gods Word.

  • @hapennysparrow
    @hapennysparrow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Agree with Skye about Trump. Even more so, if possible.

  • @2serve4Christ
    @2serve4Christ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    #Netanyahu 's remark to #Congress that #Gaza protesters "should be ashamed of themselves" is met with a standing ovation that goes on for nearly a minute. (2024.07.24)

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He is quite simply a modern day version of the man responsible for the holocaust. Yet the US celebrates their role in ending WWII like they continue to do good in the world rather than actually giving this evil regime more and more weapons to continue their crimes against humanity.

    • @jeancast7798
      @jeancast7798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      From the Republicans.

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @michaelward1341 just presume 99% of them

    • @jdtreharne
      @jdtreharne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is correct

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jdtreharne if you love genocide, yes

  • @nancypirro7280
    @nancypirro7280 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    God saved him? Which god? The god of this world?

  • @jdtreharne
    @jdtreharne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:07:30 “Palestinians are a diverse community”…. Except no Jews, right?

    • @krzwis5632
      @krzwis5632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Palestine Jews are a thing

    • @jdtreharne
      @jdtreharne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@krzwis5632 How many live under Hamas or the PA?

    • @krzwis5632
      @krzwis5632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jdtreharne how many Palestinians were affected by the Nakba? How many continue to suffer

    • @jdtreharne
      @jdtreharne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@krzwis5632 did you delete your comment?

    • @krzwis5632
      @krzwis5632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jdtreharne I haven't deleted anything? Although I have been noticing some of the comments have been glitching 🤷‍♂️

  • @pastorofmuppets8834
    @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for allowing someone to finally speak the truth about the genocide in Gaza and crimes in the west bank.
    Better late than never.
    Boycott Israel.
    Vote for a president who will protect the innocent.

    • @bethprather9241
      @bethprather9241 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't see that on the right at all. So the evangelicals on Trumps side, aren't going against Isreal.

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @bethprather9241 correct! Vote independent

  • @vDC2me
    @vDC2me 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Kaitlyn, why is there a gap in your bookshelf? And did they get anchored to the wall so they won't tip over on you?

  • @viennehaake9149
    @viennehaake9149 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Substantive. He speaks English well and represents Jesus IMO appropriately. I'm getting his book and will visit his YT site. I know this is gonna sound off the subject, but a lecture by Rick Steves is on TH-cam somewhere and it gives a very interesting about an hour and a half long lecture on what it's like to go to Palestine what it's like to go to the Westbank course he couldn't get into Gaza I don't believe bu the Heights and some of those occupied territories and gives you an unbiased way of looking at both sides so it's not surprising that October 7 happened when you use that sort of oppression that Israelis are using toward the Palestinians that's eventually going to explode. They can't get out th you know water is it in their control electricity isn't in their control every time they get in their car they go through checkpoint. It's horrible. It's I'd rather be in prison so there's two sides to this and hope that Christians will educate themselves because it's all about education. They don't understand the issues. They just are think that if we don't stand with Israel we're screwed so it's a really s way to think but that's the way I think most Christians are kind of like their get out of jail free card. They have oversimplified and justified their poor behavior and put it on their faith which is also a slippery slope.

  • @T-41
    @T-41 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Times like this bring to mind Christopher Higgins “Religion has done more harm than good”. Well probably not, but I see why he said that.

  • @nyurovski
    @nyurovski 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Treat foreigners well, but take slaves from them... So confusededed.
    Leviticus 25:39-46 describes a two-tier model of slavery that distinguishes Israelites from foreign slaves. It requires that Israelites be indentured only temporarily while foreigners can be enslaved as chattel (permanent property)

  • @brandonhartgraves5095
    @brandonhartgraves5095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joel 3:1: "I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land".

  • @marybethfarrell652
    @marybethfarrell652 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    DT is not a mystery-- he will survey the landscape, sometimes multiple times per day, and choose to say or do whatever benefits HIM. Period>

  • @CliffordTorres-o9s
    @CliffordTorres-o9s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Skye, I made the Revelation connection, immediately after. I have a test date stamped for verification. 🙂

  • @chuckthompson5724
    @chuckthompson5724 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yes Hamas started this but ithas taken a turn from punishing an enemy to the elimination of a people.

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The conflict did not start on October 7...

    • @jdtreharne
      @jdtreharne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hamas could surrender at any time. Unfortunately they hate Jews more than they love their own people.

    • @jdtreharne
      @jdtreharne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chuckthompson5724 Hamas can surrender at any time but they don't want to. They celebrate the death of Palestinian civilians.
      CNN
      -
      The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.
      “We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Yahya Sinwar told other Hamas leaders recently, according to one of the messages, the WSJ reported Monday. In another, Sinwar is said to have described civilian deaths as “necessary sacrifices” while citing past independence-related conflicts in countries like Algeria.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pastorofmuppets8834that’s not the accepted American version.
      It’s a bit like saying 9/11 was unprovoked.

    • @pastorofmuppets8834
      @pastorofmuppets8834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Justanotherconsumer precisely. The US created Osama, in fact all modern middle East terrorism was caused by American illegal wars and meddling.

  • @andrewwhittaker2908
    @andrewwhittaker2908 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want both a paper and the show! 😊

  • @timothymulholland7905
    @timothymulholland7905 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Skye needs a fedora to be a real 1940s PI. Bogart might aprove.
    BTW, who captures the center wins. Both candidates will move in that direction. The radicals will complain but they should aprove.

  • @jaysonwingo5925
    @jaysonwingo5925 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m very glad to hear from a Palestinian’s perspective. I’m a young guy and I haven’t been following this war very closely, but have been seeing people online who have been fighting each other about this war. I can’t condone the violence I have been hearing being done by Israel, but I also can’t condone people who have been hating on the Jewish community here in America or anywhere else. I suppose I can’t blame people for wanting justice, and I can’t blame people for supporting the homeland of their ancestors. The only thing I do understand is that this fighting has been going on for a while, and has finally escalated to the point of so much death and despair. I pray that the people of both sides will find peace in this troubled time.

  • @jdtreharne
    @jdtreharne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Are you interviewing an Israeli Christian next week?

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why should they have to? Hasn't there been enough pro Zionism content already?

    • @krzwis5632
      @krzwis5632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Israeli perspective has been talked about ALOT on the podcast

    • @jdtreharne
      @jdtreharne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@krzwis5632 have they interviewed any Israelis?

    • @krzwis5632
      @krzwis5632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jdtreharne they have actually. Last year around late October/early November (unless I am getting my dates confused).

  • @impalaman9707
    @impalaman9707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please explain to me Skye how Genesis 12:3 is being taken out of context? What is there to be "nuanced"? God's promises are clear, binding and never fail. It has been proven over the last century that every time the US failed to bless Israel, or scolded Israel, disastrous results have happen, natural or financial, to the US. God keeps His promises

  • @maddmaddmom
    @maddmaddmom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys, and Caitlin are hilarious 😂

  • @brandonhartgraves5095
    @brandonhartgraves5095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joel 3:1 God judges those among the nations that support the land of Israel being divided up and given to other people groups when it is His land and belongs to the people of His inheritance, the Jews.

  • @gnavajr
    @gnavajr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    James 3:10 ...Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be... Munther Isaac blesses Palestinian Christians while cursing the Jews (under the guise of being anti-Zionist!) he will have to give an account for his hatred of Jews one day and his constant excuse of the Palestinian plight will not suffice.

  • @maddmaddmom
    @maddmaddmom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gods “good and perfect” will is the Book of Rev. it’s messy. And a bit on the scary side. I prayed for His good and perfect will for my daughter. She died. I accept and honor his good and perfect will. Vote against the enemies chosen human. And honor Gods will no matter what happens on Election Day.

  • @BryanLeeDavidson
    @BryanLeeDavidson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've seen the beast and the head wound reference.

  • @bobbobberson5627
    @bobbobberson5627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The messiah they wait for is the ant i Chris t

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @3eyedcyclops ok crazy lady

  • @krzwis5632
    @krzwis5632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great episode. I dont always agree with Skye and Phil. They tend to have a bit of a boomer/gen x mindset....but this episode they were amazing. Love it!

  • @bluesky45299
    @bluesky45299 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quran (only scripture with 100% accuracy/preservation) says Allah is “Al-Ahad”(one/indivisible).Philosophically, It is impossible for 3 distinct perfections to exist simultaneously. Father (Perfection 1/distinct1) =Son (Perfection 2/distinct2)=idolatry.This is due to addition of two extra perfections that are Co-equal/Co-eternal&distinct with Allah(the most Exalted). Not just the Quran, but also the old/New Testament textually establish tauheed(monotheism). So, then why believe in trinity and associate two imaginary parts to Allah(one/indivisible/Self-Sufficient/All-Loving)? How could your love/worship be undivided/exclusive for Allah(the most Exalted) when there are two other equally unique/perfect entities to adore? The verses of bible used by trinitarians are extremely vague and require hard interpretation to extract the understanding that Father/Son/Holy Ghost are Co-equal/Co-Eternal&distinct.

  • @guysymons730
    @guysymons730 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With all this talk about the assassination attempt which is 99% about Trump and 1% about the man that lost his life and the people that were injured... was there any so-called Christian that said a prayer for the shooter, that young man's soul who also lost his life? Is anyone sad for his life?.. at 20 years old!?

  • @brandonhartgraves5095
    @brandonhartgraves5095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To believe in Zionism-- the belief that God has given the (WHOLE) land of Israel to the Jews FOREVER, IS to believe the God of the old and new testament. You don't like it, get outta the church!

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Israel IS the Christian Church not a secular ethno state instituted in the 1940s.

    • @brandonhartgraves5095
      @brandonhartgraves5095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobbobberson5627 why does Joel 3:1 describe God's judgement on all nations that work to divide up that particular piece of land then?

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@brandonhartgraves5095 “Israel” is dividing the land. That’s the whole problem.

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The modern state of Israel was founded by Europeans- how did you fall for that rhetoric?

    • @brandonhartgraves5095
      @brandonhartgraves5095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobbobberson5627 the whole thing is for the Jews. Doesn't matter who helped to put them there. Read the whole verse. It talks about God's anger about the Jewish people being scattered among the nations, i.e. away from the land of Israel. And it refers to the nations dividing up the land (from the Jews)