How is this a sufficient punishment? She abused her judicial power, which resulted in people being sent to jail wrongfully. How does that only warrant a "oh, just don't practice law again". That should 100% result in jail time.
That is a matter being looked into by the D.A. this is simply an administatrative issue about employment status. They don't have power to issue criminal sanctions against her for civil law matters. Her being open to lawsuits not just the State of Ohio and criminal penalties is another matter. But her sanctions and not contesting the charge may be used as evidence against her later.
@@Ozzy_2014 being looked into is code for it won't happen. It never does when it comes to judges and DA's offices. At best, by the time anything gets done they'll be long since retired. The judicial system works far to slow when it comes to policing its own misconduct
@@Ozzy_2014 do you want people to murder judges and DAs because not doing anything substantial swiftly is how you get legitimate use of the 2nd amendment.
She absolutely needs to be prosecuted “to the fullest extent of the law” . Judges, lawyers, police & politicians absolutely should be held to the highest standards and when they blatantly violate their oaths and the law their punishment should be swift and extreme.
I once had to go in front of a bald-headed judge for a minor traffic violation. He started off by saying, "First of all, your hair is too long). WTF does that have to do with anything? I never had a chance at justice. I lost, of course. I'm still upset about that incident.
With great power, comes great responsibility. This unhinged judge needs to spend some significant time in prison. What an embarrassment to her community.
At least they did SOMETHING about her. Meanwhile, the WV supreme court did virtually nothing to the family court judge that illegally searched a house.
There was an update. She was taken out of service, was invested by the Judges oversight board and charged with a bunch of ethics and policy violations. So she's on her way to being disbarred. The WVBI was looking into criminal charges.
remember. There ARE codes of conduct for judges. And, by golly, if they violate them, several dozen times, then they maybe, might, possibly be , kind of, held accountable for it.
"But she apologized!" Even one abuse of contempt means that this tyrant should be imprisoned. Judges who abuse their power need the harshest possible treatment.
Carr is nothing more than an over entitled person...To see the actual videos, and how her court looked was stunning...Knowing that the defendant can not come to court due to COVID restrictions, and then issuing warrants for their arrest, is insane. Her unprofessional demeanor, robe, jewelry just proves that we need very good attorneys regardless of ethnicity to be our judges at any level...I know it completely stunned her when she was confronted with the facts of her behavior...
If we come into work several hours late, we can expect to get fired from our job. Considering their 100k+ pay and excellent benefits, a judge ought to be held to a high standard. Their tardy is unethical and appalling incompetence.
you'd think the same of pretty much any government official, but they obviously aren't. Because they govern themselves, they investigate themselves. Even if it's "another" department, they are usually pretty intertwined, and favors gets passed around.
I remember 2 interesting judges. One was this guy that constantly took days off that he labeled as “meetings” where he instead went to golf and the news team was watching him. He would go to fast food places and other things being like 3 hours or more late. The other was this judge that got elected but then said she had a medical issue and couldn’t attend court but had no issue picking up her paycheck or running errands. She had been sworn in over 100 days earlier and had not done a single case, but made the other judges have to do her cases as well
Involved with the Court System for 36 years in the 15th Judicial District of Kentucky. I rarely (5 times...) saw a Judge that did not 'start Court' on time; very rare. Don't believe everything that you find people like this saying. Almost always 9:00am sharp. So help me God!
It's completely insane the amount of damage a judge can get away with before they are pulled off the bench. What happens to all of the cases she's heard in the last two years?
Good riddance, those municipal courts, they are probably the most important in the legal system, it's where most people will expect fairness and justice, not abuses by an imbecile. There really ought to be harsher punishments for judges like this one AND bailiffs that obey judges like this one.
Deprive someone of their rights and falsely imprison someone as a citizen and you face years in prison. Do it 100+ times and abuse your position of power, as a Judge, and get no charges with a slap on the wrist from the only people willing to do something. Amazing!
We have a saying in my country that roughly translates as: “petty thieves end up in jail, big thieves end up in government” She was bad but not bad enough for a career in politics.;)
Officials are almost totally immune from criminal charges of misconduct, to shield them from what are essentially nuisince lawsuits. Kind of analagous to excluding 'fruit of the poisoned tree'.
The DA was said to be looking into criminal charges. This action of taking her off the bench is just the first step, and is being done by her "employer" which does not have power to go further by itself.
@@brianorca Yes, people forget that in the Adversarial system, judges can only rule on what's brought before them. In this case, nobody authorized to lay a criminal charge was involved, it was strictly internal discipline within the court itself. Will the DA lay charges? Well, it partly depends on what the DA thinks of her, and whether the DA thinks will be god for THEIR career. Mind you, this reminds me of why US cops don't usually take bribes: The career benefits of busting someone for trying to bribe you, as a cop, are far more valuable than most bribes, particularly if you are a little dirty, since busting a would-be briber makes you look clean. This is probably a well-known case of a flagrantly abusive judge, and nobody likes those. If the DA can bring charges quickly, it will look very good on him, particularly if their election is coming up soon, which it doesn't appear to be. Looks like this is the the middle of his term, as he was elected (unopposed election, mind you) in 2020, and the terms appear to be four years, as he was first elected in 2016 and sworn in January 2, 2017, according to WKSU's not particularly competently managed web site (his picture on the story is rotated 90 degrees clockwise from right way up, although oddly enough not at it appears on an image search for him). Further complications are that the former judge is black in a majority black county and the DA is white.
I remember her judge podium looked like a flea market of Knick knacks. Was crazy how she stated she never sent out warrants and then you see the video of her blantenly doing just that
Those of us from Ohio, have been tracking on her for the last 2+ years. The news stations and Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper have been reporting on her for the last year almost weekly. Again Steve great reporting, although I'm just here for the Tshirts.
You get the democracy you deserve. 'The Senate Just Confirmed a Trump Judge With No Real Trial or Litigation Experience' by Charles P. Pierce, Esquire, Dec. 5, 2019...."Sarah Pitlyk, whom P. Donald trump put forward and the US Senate confirmed to a lifetime seat on the United States District Court in the Eastern District of Missouri, has never tried a case, neither criminal nor civil, has never taken a deposition, has never examined a witness, has never argued a motion in federal or state court. The A.B.A. unanimously rated her as unqualified for a lifetime seat in the federal judiciary. Sarah Pitlyk will serve for life."
You would assume that judges would be the absolute cream of the crop, as far as law is concerned, due to the effects their decisions have on people. When a judge behaves as this one did, I have no empathy. She should never be involved in law again; the world needs ditch diggers, too.
She wouldn’t last one hour as a ditch digger. Manual labor in construction is hard, physical activity, done outside in all types of weather. Often done while standing in freezing cold water, or raw sewage. I am willing to bet 99% of ALL judges couldn’t last an entire week as ditch diggers. Ditch digging isn’t easy. I know that because I have done it. I’ve also done other extreme physical jobs so I have a fair base to “judge” the job. The pun was intended.
I am so glad that state courts allow videoing judges. It has opened the eyes of a lot of people. Now we just need this for federal courts. Lets be honest if it was not for the various videos she would still be judge.
I agree with that as a principal. However, we all know that within days it would be used to target judges that lean against the prevailing attitude of SCOTUS at the time.
This was a wild story, and her blaming her actions on untreated sleep apnea and menopause is comical. By that logic, I suppose any woman experiencing that would act like a tyrant? 🤷🏾♂️ It's crazy it took this many missteps before actions were taken though.
Have you ever known a woman going through menopause? When my wife experienced "the change" she became a whole different person. She ended up alienating family members and almost ended our marriage. She looks back on those times now and feels very embarrassed. She's amazed that I stayed with her through that.
as someone who has severe sleep apnea I can say that it has the potential to destroy your life...sleep deprivation is a world wide epidemic and a good reason so many people die early and or get diabetes, heart disease and so many other physical ailments. Speaking from experience I can say that sleep apnea has cost me thousands of dollars and multiple relationships because when your brain doesn't rest it will dramatically change your personality because you are chronically exhausted but don't know it. Memory issues, cognitive decline etc...honestly, it can and does affect EVERY aspect of your life. I'm not making excuses for this judge or her conduct but just trying to insert some objective information into the discussion...
Then you have to be expected to understand the process for requesting a reconsideration or an appeal. Or you have to have a lawyer who actually wants to do either of those, and isn't overworked. It's an absolute mess.
Age limits? In my Federal bank fraud case back in the early 1990's the judge was very elderly. So I asked the Federal Marshalls how old the judge was and they said he was 87. He had retired and volunteered to come back for simple cases to help alleviate the backlog. His name? Judge Young, and he was 87. LOL
@@MrTruckerf - That was about 30 years ago. My sentence was 17 months and was served concurrent with my Ohio sentence of 2 years. I had a savings account at the bank and it was a Federal Savings and Loan and I bounced 1 check at each location on the same day. They lost over $16K and I had fun traveling around the country. I did this in several cities in the early 1990's. My total time served was 3 years and my total haul was $96K. Do I regret it? Not really, I had fun, just not in prison, mostly read books and took some college classes.
I really appreciate the matter of fact way Steve explains the important details of the law and jargon that us laymen would not otherwise understand. Thank you Steve.
Based on several named incidents she acted not as a judge but as a member of the executive branch and would have no immunity if sued or charged with crimes.
Need to be careful of intimidation of jurry members and witnesses, just to name two. Fixed cameras maybe, the public gallery brining in a camera could be problematic.
My fav quote about her, "Official documents say Judge Pinky Carr "conducted business in a manner befitting a game show host rather than a judge of the Cleveland Municipal Court" and the ways she acted "could not help but seriously compromise the integrity of the court."
Why would a judge even have this much power is insane. Whenever someone used their power illegally, where, a judge, a cop a politician, whoever... someone should immediately step in and so "no honey, that's beyond your authority". Instead we rely on bad bailiffs doing the illegal bidding of bad judges, and waiting for other judges to turn things around. That takes years.
It’s kind of scary that this judge could commit this many instances of judicial misconduct before the Supreme Court stepped in to stop her. It would seem whatever checks and balances they have in place aren’t working properly.
Seeing that law is so heavily influenced by precedent, do judges use the term "unprecedented" as loosely as the rest of society, or would it be reserved for its literal meaning? Serious question.
@@ancapftw9113 judge judy is the definition of pms menopause and emotion / rage etc. Women shouldnt be judges. This Judge Carr , helped with the phrase STINKY PINKY
Curious what would have happened if she had fought the charges. At any rate she can contact a certain lawyer in New Mexico to be advised on the best way of getting her suspension lifted
It's only justice if they're expunging the records of all the victims. If they let all the things she did stand and stay on the record, and gets to re-apply after 2 years, that's really pretty soft.
If she had defended herself in any way, she would have gotten 2 weeks or something. The court loves letting incompetent and/or criminal judges do more harm.
Would there be any follow up on her prior cases being investigated & reversed? Thx! Everyone deserves forgiveness BUT trust is usually on past performance.
What really pisses me of are three things. One she claimed she was not responsible because of a Mood Disorder. No. What a cursing and disrespect for those with Mental Health issues who deal with them without misconduct and illegal actions, or choose to take themselves out of the situation if they cannot fulfill their duties properly. Second is the claiming Menopause. What hideous insult to women. To attempt to further your own agenda predicated on women somehow not being fit for duty to the standards of all Officials serving in those capacities. No. Women are not less bound, or likely to have misconduct based on the hormonal shifts throughout a woman’s life. Everyone else seems to recognize that nothing less than parity exists, or is expected to exist. Millions of other women deal with the same thing and do not think it lowers the standard, and don’t let it change the standard of conduct. Third is her blatant lying about her issuing warrants, and punishing people for not showing to Court, which was explicitly cancelled. All three of those tell me exactly that she should never set foot in a Courtroom again, unless it’s as a defendant. Not even as a juror, witness, or even an observer. That’s nothing less than what she deserves. What a disgrace on every level.
Will there be claims of racism? Or she was fired for wearing tank tops, spandex shorts, sneakers, etc.? Only took years to get results in the courthouse.
Ex-Judge Pinkey Carr: "You notice I'm no longer the bill collector for the Clerk's Office. I'm not your b-i-t-c-h. See, you get it? Collect your own money. There you go, player, mm-hmm. Collect your own money, player, mm-hmm. I'm not your b-i-t-c-h. Run tell that, mm-hmm. Mmhmm. How you like them apples? Suckas." Yeah. She really showed them!...😲
Shouldn't she be charged with 18US242 Deprivation of Rights under the Color of Law, 18US241 Conspiracy against Rights and Violation of Oath of Office?? Her behaviour goes well beyond just "misconduct"... what she did is outright criminal.
I can tell you that most of the Federal Judges work a lot harder. The ones I worked in the office with (mostly in eastern districts, but also worked with several in Texas, and the Midwest) were usually in their office by 7am at the latest, and left between 3:30-5:30 (many times working in their office through lunch). Sure sometimes they only worked 2-4 days a week (usually like 4-5 one week and a lighter alternative week) but they were always also in committees outside docket hours, or doing outreach/educational/non-profit work too, or traveling to other judicial conference events (and often doing teleconferences in the evenings from their home). I was a late-30s contractor working a lot, and these 50-80 year olds had a work ethic that put most of the staff to shame. State appointment must be pretty cushy gigs.
So.. blatant disregard for the practice of law, abuse of her authority, perjury, and the list goes on. Just what does it take to be dis-barred in Ohio?
OOOOOHHH, She apologized. I guess that makes up for all the lives she's most likely ruined. Maybe her attorney can help those people piece their lives back together.
Depends. I've had 2 judges removed from office for life. In my state there is a "Judicial Conduct Commission". I took good notes of the proceedings and filed complaints. I was interviewed by investigators and after about a year of giving the judges due process, they found their was misconduct. The end result was the Judges were removed from office and had to sign an agreement to never act as a judge again. To be fair, both these judges were local criminal court judges that were elected. I can only assume the further up the chain you go, and the more politically protected the judges are, I can assume the harder it would be to get rid of them.
In language going back to Aramaic, proto Aramaic, and quite probably far further, the word for judge is Satan. A user by the name of LucifersDeathSquad writing on the difficulty of removing judges is delightful 😁
This is a good step. However the fact that some folks in the judicial system (the dissenters) thought this was extreme punishment need to be looked into imo ( yes I'm that suspicious). This stuff ruins people's lives. Arrest records rarely get removed. False convictions are even worse. There needs to be examples made of all other judges. Need to look into this. We also need to empower bailiffs and expect them to not be a bunch of goons for judges. We need more checks and balances.
Why? You get the democracy you deserve. 'The Senate Just Confirmed a Trump Judge With No Real Trial or Litigation Experience' by Charles P. Pierce, Esquire, Dec. 5, 2019...."Sarah Pitlyk, whom P. Donald trump put forward and the US Senate confirmed to a lifetime seat on the United States District Court in the Eastern District of Missouri, has never tried a case, neither criminal nor civil, has never taken a deposition, has never examined a witness, has never argued a motion in federal or state court. The A.B.A. unanimously rated her as unqualified for a lifetime seat in the federal judiciary. Sarah Pitlyk will serve for life."
@@Mark-gg6iy Ability and knowledge of the law not race and gender should be major factors in selecting a judge. Unfortunately race and gender are the main criteria for selecting a judge.
@@kingforaday8725 Congratulations you have identified the very definition of anecdotal evidence while failing to support your hyperbolic generalized claim. btw...There is zero equivalency between attempting to represent all Americans on a 9-member SCOTUS versus USA state and federal judges which number 30,000 & 1,700 respectively. Trump Univ.?
What happens to cases where she abused people or made decisions that resulted in unfair judgements? Do they become null and void? Do people imprisoned get let go or get to sue the state over it?
If I had to guess, nothing. It would cost the litigants more money and they could appeal her decisions, but I’d wager that wound be the process moving forward.
Sometimes a court will order a review of the cases that judge handled, but generally, the victims have to find out the judge was removed, and appeal or sue using that fact to give their claims more weight.
There is a West Virginia judge who recently got hit with 13 judicial misconduct charges, and her judicial immunity was denied. So she'll be joining this judge very soon. Audit the Audit did the video on this and the institute of justice joined the case. This involved a divorce decree that the judge went to the husband's home and allowed his X wife to pick up the items. Yea she's stepped in the doo Doo and from some of the interviews with the baliff they'd all do it again. I wonder how much smugness they will feel when this judge is held personally libel
Who voted no to suspending her? I'd like to see thier court records and history cause if they thought what she did was ok and fine if she said sorry really says alot about thier ethics and what probably happens in thier court room.... but hey it's not like we expect any punishment ever. Hell this "judge" can break the law and no charges cause I think we all know why
The judge was doing it all wrong! He was supposed to join a racket. The racket and the people in it protect you. You make sure the important and powerful people are in on it; and, you always place dupes at crucial positions so they can take the fall if anyone comes sniffing around! Really, these lessons are taught in grade school in NYC schools!
There's a family Court judge in WV who got in trouble for going to a man's house, with a balif, and other court LEOs, and the homeowner's ex-wife, to search his house for things she said he hadn't turned over! The man told the judge she wasn't going in his house without a warrant, and she said, "Oh yes I am!". He tried recording everything and she had the bailiff take his phone away, and said he'd be arrested if he tried recording, IN HIS OWN HOUSE! She had gone before the WV supreme Court before, for many complaints, and apologized for everything, and said how wrong she was, so they only fined her and let her continue working. She went back and told the other family court judges how bad she was treated and she didn't do anything wrong, and she wasn't changing a thing. In this case, her bailiff gave a deposition, because the man filed a lawsuit, said if she asked him to do it again, he would! She was deposed and said she did nothing wrong and tried having the lawsuit thrown out on qualified immunity. The federal court said she wasn't acting as a judge when she searched the man's house without a warrant, that she acted as an executive, (police officer), so she doesn't get the protection of being a judge! What is scary, it seems the entire family court in that building, backed her, and seem to think she did nothing wrong (but they've only heard her side, and she can be very convincing as the victim). There are numerous complaints against her, but until now, she was protected. I'm interested to see what the WV Supreme Court does when they find out she basically spit in their faces, and lied to them about accepting responsibility, to get an easy punishment, then immediately went back and acted as the victim, and worked as she always had! It seems that the entire family court system needs investigated, in WV, and probably every state!!!
So she spends zero days in jail for her malicious effects on so many lives and all the jail time she ordered for everyone else. And for someone just rolling their eyes at her. But zero time for her for all she sid. Yes they do work to erode their own credibility and authority.
Hey Steve, I've always wondered about something: Suppose a layman without a law degree gets elected to be a judge. Will that person actually become a judge?
Judicial body-nah, give ya no bre-ak Chief judge-nah, give ya no break No, not... supreme court-nah, give ya no break Not even... ya lawyer-nah, give ya no break, well...
How about the judge that can't tell what is a woman? Why wasn't she removed? Why promote her up to the Supreme Court? Where she can screw up judicial system for decades?
What else as stupid as this, could possibly come out of any other place, except the mistake on the lake. Every case that she has handled since the problems first arose, should be given a quick once over, to assure that there is no victims of her wrongdoings, that has not been brought to light.
This should be happening a lot more often, small towns in particular often have judges who are not fit to hold a position of authority. There's one trying to protect Trump right now, but this is the nature of American "justice" different rules apply to the priviliged sectors of society.
She sent people to jail that shouldn't have been and all she gets is suspended!! The folks she sent to jail had their lives ruined. Our justice system is so horrifically broken.
I hold most courts in contempt of Constitution. Our court system no longer represents justice.. it represents revenue generation and judges who are a bit too power-hungry.
How is this a sufficient punishment?
She abused her judicial power, which resulted in people being sent to jail wrongfully. How does that only warrant a "oh, just don't practice law again". That should 100% result in jail time.
The criminal side of it is under investigation right now
That is a matter being looked into by the D.A. this is simply an administatrative issue about employment status. They don't have power to issue criminal sanctions against her for civil law matters. Her being open to lawsuits not just the State of Ohio and criminal penalties is another matter. But her sanctions and not contesting the charge may be used as evidence against her later.
@@Ozzy_2014 being looked into is code for it won't happen. It never does when it comes to judges and DA's offices. At best, by the time anything gets done they'll be long since retired.
The judicial system works far to slow when it comes to policing its own misconduct
It's fine. She apologized. That's makes everything okay. So her lawyer implies, anyway.
@@Ozzy_2014 do you want people to murder judges and DAs because not doing anything substantial swiftly is how you get legitimate use of the 2nd amendment.
"MULTIPLE PEOPLE BEING WRONGLY ARRESTED" due to her! Why isn't she criminally charged with each one of those??!!
She absolutely needs to be prosecuted “to the fullest extent of the law” . Judges, lawyers, police & politicians absolutely should be held to the highest standards and when they blatantly violate their oaths and the law their punishment should be swift and extreme.
Should be but won't. That's why we have a second amendment. A dead judge or cop can't be cut slack. The justice dispensed with a gun cannot be undone.
public execution tbh
@@EnthalpyAndEntropy you guys in the states often say this but never do it. Meanwhile cops go around robbing people with immunity constantly.
Can we make sure the Supreme Court does too...?
I once had to go in front of a bald-headed judge for a minor traffic violation. He started off by saying, "First of all, your hair is too long). WTF does that have to do with anything? I never had a chance at justice. I lost, of course. I'm still upset about that incident.
FOIA request the footage from that day/ as much of the judges proceedings as possible?
Lmao. That's hilarious and awful.
More awful than hilarious, though.
With great power, comes great responsibility. This unhinged judge needs to spend some significant time in prison. What an embarrassment to her community.
At least they did SOMETHING about her. Meanwhile, the WV supreme court did virtually nothing to the family court judge that illegally searched a house.
There was an update. She was taken out of service, was invested by the Judges oversight board and charged with a bunch of ethics and policy violations. So she's on her way to being disbarred. The WVBI was looking into criminal charges.
remember. There ARE codes of conduct for judges.
And, by golly, if they violate them, several dozen times, then they maybe, might, possibly be , kind of, held accountable for it.
That's what happens when you have police investigating police, judges investigating judges, etc
Yah. Dream on.
@@SparkyWrench Yeah, I was accused of being an asshole once. I did a thorough investigation on myself and determined that I am not.
Or nothing...
Sort of.
Any jail time that resulted from her bs should have to be served by her at this point.
"But she apologized!" Even one abuse of contempt means that this tyrant should be imprisoned. Judges who abuse their power need the harshest possible treatment.
Carr is nothing more than an over entitled person...To see the actual videos, and how her court looked was stunning...Knowing that the defendant can not come to court due to COVID restrictions, and then issuing warrants for their arrest, is insane. Her unprofessional demeanor, robe, jewelry just proves that we need very good attorneys regardless of ethnicity to be our judges at any level...I know it completely stunned her when she was confronted with the facts of her behavior...
Well said.
I’ve never heard anyone say “overly entitled”. Must be regional.🤷♀️
@Don Taylor overly abused?
@Don Taylor Mr. Taylor that comment was awesome, and I hope you are both safe and healthy.
@@cplmpcocptcl6306 You can not spell wiMP without MP...Just joking I wish you the best as a former EOD Sergeant...
@Don Taylor 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 are you a teacher or just that judgement focused that you have to correct somebody's grammar online during a comment.
If we come into work several hours late, we can expect to get fired from our job. Considering their 100k+ pay and excellent benefits, a judge ought to be held to a high standard. Their tardy is unethical and appalling incompetence.
Well said, they are meant to be held to the highest standards which is appropriate since they decide the fate of others.
you'd think the same of pretty much any government official, but they obviously aren't. Because they govern themselves, they investigate themselves. Even if it's "another" department, they are usually pretty intertwined, and favors gets passed around.
Dats raycysss gnome sane
I remember 2 interesting judges. One was this guy that constantly took days off that he labeled as “meetings” where he instead went to golf and the news team was watching him. He would go to fast food places and other things being like 3 hours or more late.
The other was this judge that got elected but then said she had a medical issue and couldn’t attend court but had no issue picking up her paycheck or running errands. She had been sworn in over 100 days earlier and had not done a single case, but made the other judges have to do her cases as well
Involved with the Court System for 36 years in the 15th Judicial District of Kentucky. I rarely (5 times...) saw a Judge that did not 'start Court' on time; very rare. Don't believe everything that you find people like this saying. Almost always 9:00am sharp. So help me God!
It's completely insane the amount of damage a judge can get away with before they are pulled off the bench. What happens to all of the cases she's heard in the last two years?
probably nothing or nothing good
@@ccole9080 yep
Bad luck…no review usually
I have nothing but contempt for this court.
Good riddance, those municipal courts, they are probably the most important in the legal system, it's where most people will expect fairness and justice, not abuses by an imbecile.
There really ought to be harsher punishments for judges like this one AND bailiffs that obey judges like this one.
Deprive someone of their rights and falsely imprison someone as a citizen and you face years in prison. Do it 100+ times and abuse your position of power, as a Judge, and get no charges with a slap on the wrist from the only people willing to do something. Amazing!
We have a saying in my country that roughly translates as: “petty thieves end up in jail, big thieves end up in government”
She was bad but not bad enough for a career in politics.;)
Officials are almost totally immune from criminal charges of misconduct, to shield them from what are essentially nuisince lawsuits. Kind of analagous to excluding 'fruit of the poisoned tree'.
We need more capital offenses surrounding corruption and things like this. Once is a mistake. 100 times is criminal with enhancements
The DA was said to be looking into criminal charges. This action of taking her off the bench is just the first step, and is being done by her "employer" which does not have power to go further by itself.
@@brianorca Yes, people forget that in the Adversarial system, judges can only rule on what's brought before them. In this case, nobody authorized to lay a criminal charge was involved, it was strictly internal discipline within the court itself. Will the DA lay charges? Well, it partly depends on what the DA thinks of her, and whether the DA thinks will be god for THEIR career. Mind you, this reminds me of why US cops don't usually take bribes: The career benefits of busting someone for trying to bribe you, as a cop, are far more valuable than most bribes, particularly if you are a little dirty, since busting a would-be briber makes you look clean. This is probably a well-known case of a flagrantly abusive judge, and nobody likes those. If the DA can bring charges quickly, it will look very good on him, particularly if their election is coming up soon, which it doesn't appear to be. Looks like this is the the middle of his term, as he was elected (unopposed election, mind you) in 2020, and the terms appear to be four years, as he was first elected in 2016 and sworn in January 2, 2017, according to WKSU's not particularly competently managed web site (his picture on the story is rotated 90 degrees clockwise from right way up, although oddly enough not at it appears on an image search for him). Further complications are that the former judge is black in a majority black county and the DA is white.
We need to hear more stories like this.
It shouldn't take two years to out these psychos.
Are her victims/defendants able to get new trials or new deals?
They're able to get paid! by taxpayer money!
I'd bloody well hope so.
Only if they're rich enough to pay a lawyer to file motions and on and on and on.
Yeah, we've got some issues with our judges here in Ohio. A few years ago Tracy Hunter was the local embarrassment.
Was she the one who had to be dragged out of court? 😂😂
@@BlackJesus8463 Yep!
@@AeroGuy07 lol
Tracie Hunter.
She was legitimately insane...
@@snapmalloy5556 yep, my mistake.
This judge violated people’s civil rights. She should be in jail.
I remember her judge podium looked like a flea market of Knick knacks. Was crazy how she stated she never sent out warrants and then you see the video of her blantenly doing just that
Those of us from Ohio, have been tracking on her for the last 2+ years. The news stations and Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper have been reporting on her for the last year almost weekly. Again Steve great reporting, although I'm just here for the Tshirts.
"Attorneys and judges have to conduct themselves up to a certain standard." Hahahahaha. I like you. You're funny!
Judges need more oversight.
You get the democracy you deserve.
'The Senate Just Confirmed a Trump Judge With No Real Trial or Litigation Experience' by Charles P. Pierce, Esquire, Dec. 5, 2019...."Sarah Pitlyk, whom P. Donald trump put forward and the US Senate confirmed to a lifetime seat on the United States District Court in the Eastern District of Missouri, has never tried a case, neither criminal nor civil, has never taken a deposition, has never examined a witness, has never argued a motion in federal or state court. The A.B.A. unanimously rated her as unqualified for a lifetime seat in the federal judiciary.
Sarah Pitlyk will serve for life."
This apparently should include certain Supreme Court judges. 😮
You would assume that judges would be the absolute cream of the crop, as far as law is concerned, due to the effects their decisions have on people. When a judge behaves as this one did, I have no empathy. She should never be involved in law again; the world needs ditch diggers, too.
Affirmative action
@Dale Fry
Why? She's elected, she's no better than a politician.
Judges should be held to the absolutely highest standards, and punished for any & every infraction.
She wouldn’t last one hour as a ditch digger. Manual labor in construction is hard, physical activity, done outside in all types of weather. Often done while standing in freezing cold water, or raw sewage. I am willing to bet 99% of ALL judges couldn’t last an entire week as ditch diggers.
Ditch digging isn’t easy. I know that because I have done it. I’ve also done other extreme physical jobs so I have a fair base to “judge” the job. The pun was intended.
On behalf of ditch diggers, we don't want her either.
Was her behavior unprecedented, or was it unprecedented that she got caught?
I'd say most judges at least try to fake it.
both
I think covering what (could) happens with her previous rulings would be a great vault topic.
Taxpayers bailout another psycho.
@@BlackJesus8463 business as usual for the Gov.
I remember seeing videos about her strange actions months ago and though "how can she still have that job and not be in prison her self". Finally.
I hope they go over all of her cases and wonder how much it costs the tax payers. And she should never be allowed to judge an ant.
I am so glad that state courts allow videoing judges. It has opened the eyes of a lot of people. Now we just need this for federal courts. Lets be honest if it was not for the various videos she would still be judge.
1000% correct!!
Why can't the SCOTUS do that as part of the Constitution to lower court Judges who don't do their jobs and are constantly overturned?
Because SCOTUS is just as corrupt and they need removed. Fish rot from the head down.
I agree with that as a principal. However, we all know that within days it would be used to target judges that lean against the prevailing attitude of SCOTUS at the time.
George Soros Paid Judges < we do have many
forealz. At what point do you lose confidence in your coworkers.
@@flufffycow You're deranged. 👍
This was a wild story, and her blaming her actions on untreated sleep apnea and menopause is comical. By that logic, I suppose any woman experiencing that would act like a tyrant? 🤷🏾♂️
It's crazy it took this many missteps before actions were taken though.
sounds logic for me
Have you ever known a woman going through menopause? When my wife experienced "the change" she became a whole different person. She ended up alienating family members and almost ended our marriage. She looks back on those times now and feels very embarrassed. She's amazed that I stayed with her through that.
@@RangerDave1959 Word. My Wife is not the same woman she was before "The Change".
@@RangerDave1959 Roger that, and going through it now. SO I can see how it could effect this judge if she's truly going through it.
as someone who has severe sleep apnea I can say that it has the potential to destroy your life...sleep deprivation is a world wide epidemic and a good reason so many people die early and or get diabetes, heart disease and so many other physical ailments. Speaking from experience I can say that sleep apnea has cost me thousands of dollars and multiple relationships because when your brain doesn't rest it will dramatically change your personality because you are chronically exhausted but don't know it. Memory issues, cognitive decline etc...honestly, it can and does affect EVERY aspect of your life. I'm not making excuses for this judge or her conduct but just trying to insert some objective information into the discussion...
What about restitution? What if the 'courthouse rules' violate US Constitution's rights?
You mean like Civil Asset Forfeiture?? What a scam !!
Then you have to be expected to understand the process for requesting a reconsideration or an appeal. Or you have to have a lawyer who actually wants to do either of those, and isn't overworked. It's an absolute mess.
Age limits? In my Federal bank fraud case back in the early 1990's the judge was very elderly. So I asked the Federal Marshalls how old the judge was and they said he was 87. He had retired and volunteered to come back for simple cases to help alleviate the backlog. His name? Judge Young, and he was 87. LOL
My orthopedic surgeon's name is Dr. Butcher..
So how did your case go? Did you win? Or are you writing this from Leavenworth?
@@MrTruckerf - That was about 30 years ago. My sentence was 17 months and was served concurrent with my Ohio sentence of 2 years. I had a savings account at the bank and it was a Federal Savings and Loan and I bounced 1 check at each location on the same day. They lost over $16K and I had fun traveling around the country. I did this in several cities in the early 1990's. My total time served was 3 years and my total haul was $96K. Do I regret it? Not really, I had fun, just not in prison, mostly read books and took some college classes.
Not Judge Judy?
I'm still pushing for people to refer to this as a judge getting disrobed.
The sentence must be harsh because she affects so many other lives' in very absolute ways. Great vids and content :)
Must be end of time for a judge to get removed
Finally… so many more need the same
TBF there's a lot of bad laws on the books and DAs and police should quiet-quit.
This is so beautiful. Also Ben warning of low flying aircraft.
I really appreciate the matter of fact way Steve explains the important details of the law and jargon that us laymen would not otherwise understand. Thank you Steve.
Hundo, unfolded, behind the upper left side of the Caution Low Flying Aircraft sign, near the right side of the second shelf of the main cabinet. 430.
Now if states would just start dismissing judges for wrong rulings. If they are being overturned on appeal constantly they need to go.
Based on several named incidents she acted not as a judge but as a member of the executive branch and would have no immunity if sued or charged with crimes.
Can you point me to case law on this? I'm genuinely interested.
Filming in courthouses are problems in many states. Written rules by chief judge. These rules need to be tested.
Need to be careful of intimidation of jurry members and witnesses, just to name two. Fixed cameras maybe, the public gallery brining in a camera could be problematic.
My fav quote about her, "Official documents say Judge Pinky Carr "conducted business in a manner befitting a game show host rather than a judge of the Cleveland Municipal Court" and the ways she acted "could not help but seriously compromise the integrity of the court."
Why would a judge even have this much power is insane. Whenever someone used their power illegally, where, a judge, a cop a politician, whoever... someone should immediately step in and so "no honey, that's beyond your authority".
Instead we rely on bad bailiffs doing the illegal bidding of bad judges, and waiting for other judges to turn things around. That takes years.
It’s kind of scary that this judge could commit this many instances of judicial misconduct before the Supreme Court stepped in to stop her. It would seem whatever checks and balances they have in place aren’t working properly.
You should look at Michigan if you think this is bad.
Depends on whose idea of "properly" you use: the people's idea, or the judges'.
Seeing that law is so heavily influenced by precedent, do judges use the term "unprecedented" as loosely as the rest of society, or would it be reserved for its literal meaning? Serious question.
They do not use is loosely
Should have been disbarred. Has no business in the judicial system.
It took me a minute but when you mentioned how she held court during the pandemic against court rules, I remembered the judge.
Two tier justice system has to end now.
Can you imagine RBG saying, "Sorry, moody, menopause."
I couldn't imagine Judge Judy pulling that, and she's a show host.
@@ancapftw9113 judge judy is the definition of pms menopause and emotion / rage etc. Women shouldnt be judges.
This Judge Carr , helped with the phrase STINKY PINKY
Curious what would have happened if she had fought the charges. At any rate she can contact a certain lawyer in New Mexico to be advised on the best way of getting her suspension lifted
It's only justice if they're expunging the records of all the victims. If they let all the things she did stand and stay on the record, and gets to re-apply after 2 years, that's really pretty soft.
Better call Saul.
Saul Goodman.
He is in jail now.
She sounds like a perfect angel compared to the Judge in West Virginia. The Civil Rights Lawyer is in a current case with her.
This is the consequence of affirmative action in the justice system.
It’s one thing being a common criminal but unprecedented is something else
If she had defended herself in any way, she would have gotten 2 weeks or something. The court loves letting incompetent and/or criminal judges do more harm.
Would there be any follow up on her prior cases being investigated & reversed? Thx!
Everyone deserves forgiveness BUT trust is usually on past performance.
What really pisses me of are three things.
One she claimed she was not responsible because of a Mood Disorder. No. What a cursing and disrespect for those with Mental Health issues who deal with them without misconduct and illegal actions, or choose to take themselves out of the situation if they cannot fulfill their duties properly.
Second is the claiming Menopause. What hideous insult to women. To attempt to further your own agenda predicated on women somehow not being fit for duty to the standards of all Officials serving in those capacities. No. Women are not less bound, or likely to have misconduct based on the hormonal shifts throughout a woman’s life. Everyone else seems to recognize that nothing less than parity exists, or is expected to exist. Millions of other women deal with the same thing and do not think it lowers the standard, and don’t let it change the standard of conduct.
Third is her blatant lying about her issuing warrants, and punishing people for not showing to Court, which was explicitly cancelled.
All three of those tell me exactly that she should never set foot in a Courtroom again, unless it’s as a defendant. Not even as a juror, witness, or even an observer. That’s nothing less than what she deserves. What a disgrace on every level.
Will there be claims of racism? Or she was fired for wearing tank tops, spandex shorts, sneakers, etc.? Only took years to get results in the courthouse.
Ex-Judge Pinkey Carr: "You notice I'm no longer the bill collector for the Clerk's Office. I'm not your b-i-t-c-h. See, you get it? Collect your own money. There you go, player, mm-hmm. Collect your own money, player, mm-hmm. I'm not your b-i-t-c-h. Run tell that, mm-hmm. Mmhmm. How you like them apples? Suckas."
Yeah. She really showed them!...😲
i hope anyone that "serve" time because of this will become millionare
I just realized this was the crazy lady with hundreds of knickknacks on her desk. She was definitely not qualified or sane enough to be a judge.
Steve, why does this kind of thing go on for so long and Supreme court is so slow to act?
Steve, great summary indicating that a mental issue is a physical issue.
Judge Cannon, of Florida, is next!
only a 2/3 vote in the US senate can remove federal judges 😕
Shouldn't she be charged with 18US242 Deprivation of Rights under the Color of Law, 18US241 Conspiracy against Rights and Violation of Oath of Office??
Her behaviour goes well beyond just "misconduct"... what she did is outright criminal.
This needs to happen more often.
I can tell you that most of the Federal Judges work a lot harder. The ones I worked in the office with (mostly in eastern districts, but also worked with several in Texas, and the Midwest) were usually in their office by 7am at the latest, and left between 3:30-5:30 (many times working in their office through lunch). Sure sometimes they only worked 2-4 days a week (usually like 4-5 one week and a lighter alternative week) but they were always also in committees outside docket hours, or doing outreach/educational/non-profit work too, or traveling to other judicial conference events (and often doing teleconferences in the evenings from their home). I was a late-30s contractor working a lot, and these 50-80 year olds had a work ethic that put most of the staff to shame. State appointment must be pretty cushy gigs.
SUSPENSION = someday they may return
So.. blatant disregard for the practice of law, abuse of her authority, perjury, and the list goes on. Just what does it take to be dis-barred in Ohio?
OOOOOHHH, She apologized. I guess that makes up for all the lives she's most likely ruined. Maybe her attorney can help those people piece their lives back together.
This is wild. It's insanely hard to remove a judge.
and who cares... she won't get prosecuted
@@petervansan1054 that attitude is why nothing changes and/or why terrible people are allowed to continue to do terrible things.
Depends. I've had 2 judges removed from office for life. In my state there is a "Judicial Conduct Commission". I took good notes of the proceedings and filed complaints. I was interviewed by investigators and after about a year of giving the judges due process, they found their was misconduct. The end result was the Judges were removed from office and had to sign an agreement to never act as a judge again.
To be fair, both these judges were local criminal court judges that were elected. I can only assume the further up the chain you go, and the more politically protected the judges are, I can assume the harder it would be to get rid of them.
@@jasonsherman1441 - Are you an attorney ?
In language going back to Aramaic, proto Aramaic, and quite probably far further, the word for judge is Satan. A user by the name of LucifersDeathSquad writing on the difficulty of removing judges is delightful 😁
This is a good step. However the fact that some folks in the judicial system (the dissenters) thought this was extreme punishment need to be looked into imo ( yes I'm that suspicious). This stuff ruins people's lives. Arrest records rarely get removed. False convictions are even worse. There needs to be examples made of all other judges. Need to look into this. We also need to empower bailiffs and expect them to not be a bunch of goons for judges. We need more checks and balances.
I looked up this judge and Im pretty sure I know why she was initially hired. Very, very, very surprised they actually suspended her.
Why?
You get the democracy you deserve.
'The Senate Just Confirmed a Trump Judge With No Real Trial or Litigation Experience' by Charles P. Pierce, Esquire, Dec. 5, 2019...."Sarah Pitlyk, whom P. Donald trump put forward and the US Senate confirmed to a lifetime seat on the United States District Court in the Eastern District of Missouri, has never tried a case, neither criminal nor civil, has never taken a deposition, has never examined a witness, has never argued a motion in federal or state court. The A.B.A. unanimously rated her as unqualified for a lifetime seat in the federal judiciary.
Sarah Pitlyk will serve for life."
@@Mark-gg6iy Ability and knowledge of the law not race and gender should be major factors in selecting a judge. Unfortunately race and gender are the main criteria for selecting a judge.
@@kingforaday8725 Feel free to cite your evidence for this claim "race and gender are the main criteria for selecting a judge".
@@Mark-gg6iy 1-26-22, 2-24-22. Joe Biden promises to nominate a black woman to the supreme court.
@@kingforaday8725 Congratulations you have identified the very definition of anecdotal evidence while failing to support your hyperbolic generalized claim.
btw...There is zero equivalency between attempting to represent all Americans on a 9-member SCOTUS versus USA state and federal judges which number 30,000 & 1,700 respectively.
Trump Univ.?
I still contend that many judges were failures in the practice of law, and became judges in order to buy groceries.....
You have no idea how right you are
That's why you don't let your neighbors vote!
or collect bribes and kickbacks to subsidize their failing law practices
Usually judges have sustained a credible career as an attorney before becoming a judge. Not always though.
Many are former prosecutors, I vote against those.
impeach the 2 judges who voted no!
What happens to cases where she abused people or made decisions that resulted in unfair judgements? Do they become null and void? Do people imprisoned get let go or get to sue the state over it?
If I had to guess, nothing. It would cost the litigants more money and they could appeal her decisions, but I’d wager that wound be the process moving forward.
Sometimes a court will order a review of the cases that judge handled, but generally, the victims have to find out the judge was removed, and appeal or sue using that fact to give their claims more weight.
It's not a justice system it's a federal corporation
Time to get rid off all judges / politicians / cops.
Ben getting a lift from Low Flying Aircraft, Steve's LHS
There is a West Virginia judge who recently got hit with 13 judicial misconduct charges, and her judicial immunity was denied. So she'll be joining this judge very soon.
Audit the Audit did the video on this and the institute of justice joined the case.
This involved a divorce decree that the judge went to the husband's home and allowed his X wife to pick up the items.
Yea she's stepped in the doo Doo and from some of the interviews with the baliff they'd all do it again. I wonder how much smugness they will feel when this judge is held personally libel
I remember hearing about this judge's disbarment and removal from the bench. She was not given a harsh enough punishment.
Who voted no to suspending her? I'd like to see thier court records and history cause if they thought what she did was ok and fine if she said sorry really says alot about thier ethics and what probably happens in thier court room.... but hey it's not like we expect any punishment ever. Hell this "judge" can break the law and no charges cause I think we all know why
The judge was doing it all wrong! He was supposed to join a racket. The racket and the people in it protect you. You make sure the important and powerful people are in on it; and, you always place dupes at crucial positions so they can take the fall if anyone comes sniffing around!
Really, these lessons are taught in grade school in NYC schools!
There's a family Court judge in WV who got in trouble for going to a man's house, with a balif, and other court LEOs, and the homeowner's ex-wife, to search his house for things she said he hadn't turned over! The man told the judge she wasn't going in his house without a warrant, and she said, "Oh yes I am!". He tried recording everything and she had the bailiff take his phone away, and said he'd be arrested if he tried recording, IN HIS OWN HOUSE!
She had gone before the WV supreme Court before, for many complaints, and apologized for everything, and said how wrong she was, so they only fined her and let her continue working. She went back and told the other family court judges how bad she was treated and she didn't do anything wrong, and she wasn't changing a thing.
In this case, her bailiff gave a deposition, because the man filed a lawsuit, said if she asked him to do it again, he would! She was deposed and said she did nothing wrong and tried having the lawsuit thrown out on qualified immunity. The federal court said she wasn't acting as a judge when she searched the man's house without a warrant, that she acted as an executive, (police officer), so she doesn't get the protection of being a judge! What is scary, it seems the entire family court in that building, backed her, and seem to think she did nothing wrong (but they've only heard her side, and she can be very convincing as the victim). There are numerous complaints against her, but until now, she was protected. I'm interested to see what the WV Supreme Court does when they find out she basically spit in their faces, and lied to them about accepting responsibility, to get an easy punishment, then immediately went back and acted as the victim, and worked as she always had!
It seems that the entire family court system needs investigated, in WV, and probably every state!!!
I was hoping it was the U.S. District Court Judge Aileen Cannon.
So she spends zero days in jail for her malicious effects on so many lives and all the jail time she ordered for everyone else. And for someone just rolling their eyes at her.
But zero time for her for all she sid.
Yes they do work to erode their own credibility and authority.
Hey Steve, I've always wondered about something:
Suppose a layman without a law degree gets elected to be a judge. Will that person actually become a judge?
this country once elected Trump, who's now in trouble for what could be construed as espionage, so that says something... :D
depends on the state. most would be yes.
You don't have to be a lawyer to be on the Supreme Court.
In my county of PA you don’t have to be a lawyer for some courts, seems odd. But not all lawyers actually know the law.
Arresting everyone who didn't show after the courts were closed radiates "the bell doesnt dismiss you I do" energy.
Sounds like people were serious harmed by a bad judge but she just gets a slap on wrist, she should be facing prison time.
Over 100 complaints over two years.
What other employee can rack-up a record like that and retain their employment?
Bad judge, bad judge whatcha gonna do?
Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
Judicial body-nah, give ya no bre-ak
Chief judge-nah, give ya no break
No, not... supreme court-nah, give ya no break
Not even... ya lawyer-nah, give ya no break, well...
How about the judge that can't tell what is a woman? Why wasn't she removed? Why promote her up to the Supreme Court? Where she can screw up judicial system for decades?
What else as stupid as this, could possibly come out of any other place, except the mistake on the lake. Every case that she has handled since the problems first arose, should be given a quick once over, to assure that there is no victims of her wrongdoings, that has not been brought to light.
Never happen. Only rich people can afford "justice".
This should be happening a lot more often, small towns in particular often have judges who are not fit to hold a position of authority. There's one trying to protect Trump right now, but this is the nature of American "justice" different rules apply to the priviliged sectors of society.
In the US? Wow, I guess even here we sometime sacrifice a scapegoat to show how, aham, not utterly corrupt the majority of our judicial system is.
I know a certain judge in Florida who needs similar consideration.
She sent people to jail that shouldn't have been and all she gets is suspended!! The folks she sent to jail had their lives ruined. Our justice system is so horrifically broken.
You'd think that a job that sweet would make someone do their best to keep it.
I hold most courts in contempt of Constitution. Our court system no longer represents justice.. it represents revenue generation and judges who are a bit too power-hungry.
This makes a good case for three judge courts and lower salaries.
Lmao more tyrants might not be the best solution