Should YOU Play Cataclysm Classic?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.พ. 2024
- As Season of Discovery enters Phase 2, World of Warcraft Classic has seen a recent boost once again in the player base, whilst we continue to head towards Cataclysm Classic's release. Cataclysm Classic has always been a point of contention since its announcement, with some players stating they have no intention whatsoever of trying out or re-living the expansion. However, there are players looking forward to Cataclysm Classic's release, alongside other players who are curious about trying it a second time round or for the first time ever. So, what just are some of the reasons Cataclysm Classic could be worth playing? Let's find out.
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What are you looking forward to in Cataclysm Classic? 🤔
Nothing. Won't be playing it. It was bad then and it will be bad now. I have abandoned my Wotlk characters at this point, as did the ENTIRE GUILD that I was in as Cataclysm basically destroys the value of everything one did in the 3 expansions before and changes the talent trees so badly that the characters become cookie cutter duplicates with little variation or innovation.
for them to actually make something new
instead of just restarting the same game over and over
@@josephteller9715 bad for you perhaps, good for many other people. Classes were x5 times better in cata than in everything before it, PVP was excellent. Therefore, I don't get your biased opinion, if you don't want to play it it's fine. There's SoD or retail for you.
nothing^^
@@josephteller9715that's fine if you don't play it but don't say it was bad when it wasn't. You may not have liked it but class and game Design is objectively better.
If you truly think it was garbage, let me challenge you to go play Whitemane cataclysm for free so you can truly articulate what is "bad" because you just saying it's bad doesn't actually hold any weight or add anything to the conversation. The cookie cutter specs haven't changed. Everyone follows a cookie cutter build ever since vanilla. Even Diablo, blizzard just has an issue with people playing their own custom build, this is literally nothing new..
Discovery has Modern WoW abilities in the form of runes. It it's a hybrid of Classic and Retail?
I don’t think I’m interested in it, but I hope it’s good for the people who do enjoy Cata.
TBC classic was the best wow experience u ever had
I started during wotlk, however i didnt play it as much as my brother did, but when Cataclysm came, thats when i REALLY got into it
Hopefully you can enjoy it a second time around!
The greatest thing about Cata was the return of some brutal mechanics. The ring of skeletons around Baron Geddon on Mt Hyjal was proof of how dumbed down Wrath had gotten. People stood in the fire and died till you couldn't count the skeletons piled up. Then there were fights like "Break yourselves upon my body!" and the hunter dies.
sadly its all dads that play this now
all lazy dads that just want to stand in one spot and hit one button to win
because of this they made the game so easy its not even fun
@@bobshagit-io8lqComplete braindead take
@@Cynsham its not a take, its literally the general consensus of the game
Looking forward to Cata!
Well done. I agree with you. I am looking forward to the class changes most, I think. I currently main a hunter and "alt" all 4 tanks. I remember focus being a god send back in the day, and all the tanks getting a face lift in one way or another. I also plan to give healing a go.
Must be an interesting switch up between Hunter & tanking! Think I might give Hunter another go in Cata now you’ve reminded me about focus 👌🏻
Nope.Hope you guys enjoy it.
No. SoD and Gw2 take up my time atm but i hope everyone else enjoys it.
Good view on it mate if it’s not for you - hope you continue to enjoy SoD & Gw2 👌🏻
t11 content and s9 pvp will be so fucking fire
Do we have any release date?
Nothing firm yet, seems likely to be in or before August 2024
Yes it's worth it. Cataclysm is a better WotLK in every single way, with a few exceptions. Cata has only 3 raid tiers, instead of 4 and it doesn't have an equivalent to WotLK's 10 Man Normal raid difficulty(LFR is NOT it).
Class design peaked in Cataclysm until SL and DF.
Dungeon and Raid mechanics and gameplay were brought to a whole new level of quality. Tier 11 and Firelands were some of the best raids ever.
Cata had a dungeon tier for each raid tier and they were awesome. Heroic dungeons were awesome(both pre and after nerf, they were just awesome).
Cata had 10 man raiding as fully relevant and amazing.
PVP was also amazing and peaked until SL and DF.
Talents were finally polished(though you were locked in a tree, which can easily be fixed).
Leveling 1-60 was great, I thought I'd hate it back in the day, but it was actually great.(Maybe they can make it harder numerically).
80-85 was also very good.
We got the Molten Front, which was a great progressive open world activity.(WotLK had none).
Tabard reputation was polished.
Badges were polished into Justice/Valor
The Guild system was great.
Reforging was great.
Not a big fan of transmog, but it is there.
Glyphs were improved.
All they have to do is add an Easy raid difficulty of Raid which would be after Normal dungeons, not Heroic, so that more casual players can enjoy them and they are set. A big plus would be if they added back the cut content in the form of a 4th raid tier(and more dungeons), then it'd be flawless.
Not to mention twilight dungeons, they were so awesome and also habing you going around instead of just hitting the boss, mechanically wiping if you fail on interrupting a spell, which thats really not thing in wotlk, forge of saron it does not matter if you interrupt the boss or not you will not wipe e.e which makes interrupt just a joke
@@larepochetadestroyer1867 Very true.
I would like to see the mobs in cata not being as piss weak as they were made in original cata
Not sure what you're talking about because at the launch of cata people begged for nerfs because mobs were so difficult
@@ahetzel9054 ahhh yes i may of missed the important part of stating the early leveling mobs pre 80-85 content being too weak
cant wait to be the only human player iun a world full of bots, again.
Hell yeah, the classic way
its clear that blizzard GM's are still running these bots
they were caught doing it back in 2012
its funny, because they put sooooo much stuff into the game that cost gold... ( creating the demand ) then created the bots ( the supply )
Cata was so good to me honestly it was the best time I’ve ever had playing WoW and I started back in BC!
Same.
Yes it is... quit complaining and enjoy the journey.
cata was a good expansion the elitist player base said one raid was to hard for them so it was deemed a bad expansion.
cata had great pvp as well i cant wait.
People who hate in cata never played it or they drop defile on their raid.
Better to just play retail at this point, especially since DF has been better than BFA, SL and ofcourse Cataclysm
Why not play both?
The company clearlly don't care about the players and they are just using what passionate people made 20 years ago at blizzard. Most of these people dont work at blizz anymore . they didnt even bothered to fix bot issue or do proper balance. even layering is is just a bandwith. no real live support just bot reponses. so why would i support them? also how they treated reckfull, athene and swifty... wotlk classic eu still doesnt have a single balanced pvp english server
I agree Cata is due to inherit a lot of issues from Wrath Classic - mentioned a bunch of these in previous videos. Really down to classic wow team to sort server issues reflective of how they arranged SoD servers & clamp on bot issues/social issues (e.g banned gdkps).
I don’t blame people like yourself for staying clear of WoW after a lot of previous things Blizzard has done. I think the actual Classic WoW team has done a lot of good since 2019 though (obviously has still been issues).
Cataclysm was by far my favorite Xpac, until it wasn't. (dragon soul) but even still, they gave us plenty of mounts like Experiment 12-b to compensate. and honestly only raid finder was bad.
I agree & I wonder how they’ll fair with Raid Finder and if they add it or not. I guess time will tell.
short answer Yes
its clear that blizzard GM's are still running these bots
they were caught doing it back in 2012
its funny, because they put sooooo much stuff into the game that cost gold... ( creating the demand ) then created the bots ( the supply )
Not really. Cata is just old retail. Classic is done
disagree, i'd say the split is Classic-> Cata [] Mop ->Retail. Cata still feels unfinished in many ways similar to how the previous expansions did. yes the world was massively changed but many things like specs, end game solo content, stat design are still pretty rough. i regularly play a cata private server, i promise i''ve played it enough to categorize it properly.
I played it when it came out. It made me quit WOW until classic came out.
It’s not real wow, it’s retail
I guarantee you cata feels nothing like dragonflight
If Cata isn't classic, then neither is WotLK. Cata was WotLK+. A better WotLK in every way, except it had 1 fewer raid tiers and LFR was NOT a proper replacement of 10 Man Normal Raid difficulty.
I was never one of the people to cry about the world changes but I definitely was one of the people crying about how bad it was, that is until 9 months ago when i was sick of people talking about it being good so i went over to whitemanes private cata server. I wanted to play it so i could truly articulate how bad it was... Turns out its probably my favorite expansion. The classes play so well, i dont like the new talent tree system but that's one of my only criticisms. I dont like having to spend 31 points in your main tree before going into another but i do like that as soon as you choose your soec you get your class flavor spell which is really nice. I love the raids and dungeons, theyre a decent challenge when you're fresh 85 and dont know the mechanics but its satisfying when you finally get some gear and learn the mechanics and can crush fights. All in all, its okay to not like it, but you have to give it a try before you knock it because you might be like me, thinking you hate it but unknowingly love it
Well said - I have a feeling my experience the second time round in Cata Classic will be similar to yours after revisiting Cata
Dont play, wont play
You should put that on a T-Shirt
A lot of the "Classic" players will leave just as they did back in the day. Everybody saying no point are actually unable to open their eyes for 2 minutes and realise theres an entire 20 year timeline in WoWs history. Of course the same people who didnt want to play cata back then wont play it now. Cata will be poulated by different players than classic was, its why the "Classic" community got Season of Discovery. Theres more people than you just who love Vanilla, people joined this game at all different stages, you may love slow grindy leveling and dogshit easy mechanics, some others much more enjoy the faster paced game, the dungeon farming, the higher quality raids where theres more things interesting than an orange number, PvP in Cataclysm and MoP was the golden era for WoW pvp and if you say different youre just dumb. Not to mention Cata has a MUCH higher chance of converting non WoW players into WoW players from my experience. I wasnt able to get any of my friends past Duskwood in Classic before they fell asleep and booted up CSGO or Valorant or really any other game. They all were just questing, we were in discord but not playing together cuz not all were online at the same time all the time... However, now that theres dungeon finder in wotlk, we can just make a premade 3-5 man and play together all the time aslong as were roughly in the same level range? Theyre LOVING the game.
Cataclysm doomers really and truly are, in my opinion, just Classic fanboys who simply prefer a slower paced, immersive experience, and thats okay, but to bash an expansion thats not even out yet, that was originally designed to attract players that arent you, its just absurd. Of course you dont like it, they made it to try and start appealing to the more modern, fast paced, dopamine fueled game style.
Incase you al havent noticed, were in 2024. Every fcking game nowadays that people love is face paced, from lobby to match, lobby to match.... Honestly Id argue that Cataclysm has the potential to do really well, obviously not as well as WoTLK or 2019 Classic, but definetly bigger than TBC.
Actually, I think TBC is a perfect example to bring up. It showed that without that big hype around it, at its core, the modern day players dont want that sort of slow paced Classic style. They played through Classic because every single streamer was playing it, it was HUGE at the time, but the moment that hype died down and they were in an expansion thats basically just Vanilla+, they fucked off VERY fast and never came back.
Then WoTLK hits and Naxx is the most raided raid throughout all of classic. Why? Accessability. It was easy to get there. It was easy to do. It was easy to have alts after youve already gotten there and cleared it.
To top it all off, most people all just done GDKP, bought gold, bought everything with their wallets, chased orange parses and abandoned the whole "immersive experience" that they all claimed to crave for so long. Idk, theres just so much that makes me think A LOT more people want a Cataclysm style game than they think. At no point has "Classic" felt like the originals at all.
Cata raids will be harder 10000000%, but every other element of the game is much more attractive to players who arent Vanilla WoW players.
Really well said. You are one of the few players with some braincells left
Agreed 100%. I actually think that they should release the nerfed heroics. I remember tanking them back in original cata release and holy shit! The classic playerbase isn’t ready for that. If wrath classic taught us anything it’s that the current playerbase wants easier content, despite what they say on forums.
Locks lost mana drain, granted chaos bolt was living by name definition
Didn’t play Lock back in original Cata so will have to see how changes fair for my Wrath Classic Lock 👌🏻
For the Horde go goblin go
Wolf-broski gang unite
Cataclysm is when wow changed for the worst. They have struggled to retain their player base since this expansion.
Cata was when WoW started getting good.
At this point in our lives ask yourself. Is it worth playing the same game over the last 20 years worth playing it for the next 10? No ita not.
All these fools saying they wont play but they have neglected the fact that every single streamer will play Cata on launch, why wouldn't they ? What exactly are people going to do after clicking on their favourite streamer, just watch ? Naa most people are like sheep and the WoW community will end up moving to Cata for a brief moment and then any rebels still left will quit or join a classic andy private server because I seriously doubt Blizzard will continue developing SoD and it may just gather dust like Era.
I love Cata idc what anyone say
Not playing it. Didnt even finish Wrath
If there is no class balancing then no thanks
No
Just add RBGs to SoD & scrap Cata.
😂
For me it’s where I start Warcraft as a whole, young an with no clue on what the game was, it was a huge world…I can’t wait
nop
Why is it so hard for people to let people do what they want? Cata had its problems and I will play it, see how it feels. If it feels bad I stop playing. That simple. The classic elitism of old gamers that just want to prepare rather than actually game is weird to me but hey to each their own. Its no my jam. Id rather play cata than SoD or Vanilla.
only thing bad about cata was lfr and last raid both of which didnt release till last part so expect it in last phase. i personally plan to play through too firelands and then call it quits
I think cutting it off after Firelands is a fair enough point 👌🏻
It's worth playing
its not worth playing
Boooo
It's one of the best expansions if you're not a vanilla Andy tripping about world changes 🙄🙄🙄 they're fixing alot of the main issues. Class development was awesome in cata everything is fun
@@brettanwebber935 ...it was literally the worst expansion besides shadowlands. "Fixing a lot of the main issues" so they arent releasing it then? because thats the only way to fix that dumpster fire.
@@LC-zk5ri lol is all I got to say to that 😂
@@LC-zk5riI played og cata and it is way better than wrath and even vanilla. Outside of icc, wrath really sucks. Cata had much better raids and dungeons. Molten front was fun as well
Thank you blizzard for updating the world. The old world is very boring and not interesting to me at all.
Personally I like both, but I am excited to see the change again when Cataclysm comes around!
u mean people that worked 20 years ago at blizz ard
0 point
Ooft
Zero interest.