In the older games, he never had the friendship or support of anyone. The closest were Orkos (from GoW Ascension) and Athena, with the latter having ulterior motives. Gaia maybe, but like Athena she was just using him. Then GoW 2018 came along and we got Mimir and Freya who genuinely appreciated him. No wonder he was a prick in the older games; he literally had no friends and a dead family thanks to the Olympian gods.
@@adamlis9321 all was kratos needed was company and comfort, something that gives him hope that makes him see things clear but yea in the older days kratos never had anyone but his weapons and rage which he sought only satisfaction and not comfort
yeah he was ready to “call for death” or “take control of his death” as Fate puts it aka his multiple suicide attempts due to the guilt of killing his family, he realised achieving vengeance didn’t fill the hole in his life like he thought it did. but he took Faye’s advice to “open his heart” and kept living, found a reason to keep holding on (Atreus, new friends and a potential to be a God worthy of worship)
I think it’s deeper than that. He killed himself on the 3rd game cuz he had accomplished his vengeance. But he came back before meeting them. I think it’s because he wasn’t finished with life. Yes they gave him meaning to continue but this was kratos coming to peace with his personal depression he concurred on his own.
I like the shakiness in his voice during the story and the slight tremble on his mouth after watching Atreus leave. Finally not shoving down his emotions
There was a old man who chopped wood for his village. Every evening, he bore the logs on his back and delivered them to his people. But the logs were heavy, and he grew weaker as time went. Then one day. he threw down the logs, as he could no longer bear their weight, and he called for Death to come to him. And when Death arrived, he asked why the old man had called for him. Seeing Death before him caused the man to reconsider his request. After a moment, he asked that Death help him lift the logs onto his back, so that he may continue on his journey. He wished to keep living.
A few things here First of all, this was a great way for Kratos to tell his story, how he grew tired of the burdens he was carrying and ultimately tried to kill himself but simply couldn’t die, he came to the realization that he couldn’t die because deep down, he wasn’t ready to die, and while he could try to deny it, the truth was always going to be there, keeping him going, so he chose to carry his burdens anyway, and keep pushing forward Second, the way Atreus makes Kratos promise to finish the story, and the way Atreus almost looked like he was pretending to sleep, it felt like Atreus was making Kratos promise to stay alive, he made Kratos promise to defy his fate, and Kratos agreed to that promise. He would defy fate for his son Third, Kratos looked so sad as he looked at Atreus sleeping, and I know why, he never wanted this for his son, he never wanted to march his son to war, and here he is, about to do exactly that and even lead the army, he’s likely heartbroken, his son has seen conflict, but never has Atreus experienced the heartbreaking, soul crushing, joy destroying horrors of war, and that’s exactly what he was marching towards. Kratos can’t think of anything worse than that
I think a part of it is also that Kratos cries because it's a metaphor for himself. You can tell he's not obliged to recount his struggles without thinking because he's just used to it. He can bear with the fact that his life was suffering. But somewhere along the line, he gained love from family. And while he remained obliged to his eventual prophecy of death, saying his story in front of his son is suddenly making him realize something. At the final hour of it all, he doesn't want to die. He's scared of having to leave Atreus behind to mourn him. When "Death" finally arrived, the man hesitated, and the story didn't finish itself until he had chosen to keep living. Kratos cries for the son he's run out of time to be with. And he's proud of him. It's just that he doesn't want to let him go yet and accept that Ragnarok will cause his "death". It's too painful.
All the power and strength he posses, all the victories from battles, yet getting his son to quiet his mind and fall asleep brings him the most satisfaction.
Idk why, but this scene got me properly crying. Any other scene in this game simply teared me up, but the melancholy of this scene combined with the character who is at its centre and the music, hit me hard in the heart.
Yes, the background music......sounded like Japanese yet soothing....while he's telling the story....quite peaceful and sad at the same time.....awesome.
This moment was such a huge red flag when atreus asks him to "finish his story in the morning" if he falls asleep, which he does just before Kratos states the old wood loggers fate after death appears to him, indicating Kratos will indeed "finish his story" on multiple levels by dying in the battle the next day. Him looking so sorrowful at his son thinking this was their last day together. Fortunately it turned out to be a red herring instead, Kratos realized he wanted to keep living.
This scene is so heavy. They try to defy fate and forge their own destiny but at the same time, tries to accept and be prepare of the fate that had already written. Atreus came in to sleep with Kratos in case this will be his last time spending with his father and Kratos wanted to give something to Atreus in a form of a story, something for him to leave behind for his son in case he couldn't make it...
This scene literally made me cry because I was sure Kratos would die at the end and the fact that Kratos was sad that he had to see his Son in a war. I am very grateful that Kratos managed to survive and even manage to be a loved and respected god by others.
When i first heard the story i thought Kratos was getting weaker, but now i understand that Kratos's strength comes from will power, and when he's fighting for Atreus/Faye he truly demonstrates to be stronger than his past self.
Well yeah thats sort of how it works for anyone. Fighting for someone or to save someone you love will give you a higher chance at victory because you will dig in as much as possible rather than just fighting left and right without motivation. I think it all just boils down to motivation, to fight for something or someone weither if it is for love or revenge.
I think what's beautiful about this story is that the ending of the story is changed, you only hear the ending of the story after Kratos' development and growth. The way he starts to choke and hesitates and pauses to finish, and check on Atreus first before finishing is what's heart breaking to me. Because the true ending of that story, should of been. "He asked death to take him away." Which I felt like was also a parallel to the fact that Kratos more or less accepted that he was going to die soon. He's someone who questioned fate but when it came to the prediction of his death, he hardly fought against it. More over, he went to even greater lengths to make sure Atreus would be fine, after he's gone. But then hearing him finish with no pause or issues, even mentions "reconsidering"(because obv story is a parallel to his life), and finding strength to carry on. A twist of fate both in the story he tells and the story he's in.
Pretty sure the ending would have been the same, it's just the story held more emotional weight before ragnarok because there was a good chance he would die during it and like the old man he wasn't ready to go, where as afterwards he didn't have any issue sharing the ending cause he was no longer facing his own death
There was an old man that chopped wood for his village, every evening he board the logs on his back and delivered them to his people, but the logs were heavy as he grew weaker as time went, and one day he threw down the logs as he can no longer bare their weather and he called for death to come to him, and when death arrived he asked why the old man had called for him, seeing death before him made the old man reconsider his request, after a moment he asked that death help him lift the logs onto his back, so that he may continue on his journey.
This bedtime story hits extra hard when you remember that in Greece, Thanatos, the Death God, has a twin brother named Hypnos, who is the God of Sleep.
Fun Fact: This loving and patient father is the same killing machine that took down olympus all by himself. And the funny part is that, in the context of the series as a whole, it absolutely makes sense. That is how you make a good character development
There is a similar story from Serbian folklore called "The Old Man and Death" and it has been in the reading material for elementary school students for generations. I'm proud of that.
The God of Wisdom may be more apt. Kratos has grown older and wiser since GoW3 and he's finally stepped out of Ares' shadow, but he's averse, not *opposed* to throwing hands if he has to. Avoiding conflict whenever possible, but not afraid to swing his axe when it's not. It seems to me that through the culmination of his many life experiences that's the very definition of Kratos right now, and Wisdom embodies that much better than Peace.
The old man was Kratos and death was probably Loki since he was the cause of a 'death' to Kratos but he wasn't ready to give up even though earlier he states that he wouldn't try to change his death or that Atreus is able to survive on his own should Kratos perish
To me, it's just that kratos has beared the burden of his past for so much time, but just when he had no purpose left he found one that made him want to keep living.
Kratos spent so long wanting to die. Spent so long ready for death to come. But now he realizes that he has something worth living for in Atreus and his friends. This was the moment he realized that he didn't want to die.
There was a old man who chopped wood for his village. every eveing he would bore the logs on his back and deliver them to his people but the logs were heavy and he grew weaker as time went and one day he threw down the logs as he could no longer bear there weight and he call death to call for him when death came he ask why the old man called for him seeing death before him made him recondier his choice after a while he asked death to help him carry the logs for him
Every story that Kratos has ever told Atreus are reflections of his past. He begged for “Death” to take him, but Kratos continued to live his life and eventually fell in love with Faye and became a better father!
Kratos held his cest because his heart was breaking. Losing one child and having to say goodbye to another, probably for a very long time. It's simply heartbreaking but in a good way, ya know?
Part of what makes this scene so heavy (pun intended) is how relatable it feels, to me at least. Every day I take care of my people, just as many of you do. But it is difficult to do, and over time and as burdens pile up, it gets more difficult to do and the temptation to give up, turtle up, etc comes in. But we have to pick ourselves up, carry our responsibilities, and move forward for those we care about
Am I the only one that wants to see a game or DLC where Atreus ends up somehow back in time when kratos either just killed or was battling the Greek gods.
This... THIS is why Naughty Dog will never come CLOSE to God of War. This hits home for me more harder than you realize. To put it in this story's context, I'm a villager who watched the old man carry the logs every evening, who saw the old man collapse and beg for death, but, who is unable to chop and bring as much wood for his village.
The story Kratos tells is actually a story from Ancient Greece. Search "The old Man and Death by Aesop". Kudos to the writers for doing their research!
Can anyone explain what this story actually is though? Like who was the farming farming logs? Or is it all a metaphor for Kratos doing this same thing for so long?? And him finally understanding what the fates are saying and succumbing to his prophecy
hes talking about his multiple suicide attempts in the greek saga games. he “calls for death” but decides to keep hanging on and found a reason to keep living. at least thats how i took it. theres the scene later with Faye in his dream where Faye tells Kratos what to do when she dies and Kratos says shes taking control of her death, then she replies something like “you tried doing the same too once, right?” kratos says “that was different.” Faye is taking control of her burial process, Kratos was literally trying to take control of his own death.
The story is about a man carrying many burdens and regrets (logs). He was strong at first but time wore him down. He could no longer carry the weight, so he thew the logs down and called for death (giving up/kratos's suicide attempt). This act signifies a lack of purpose and meaning (vengeance brought kratos no satisfaction). The final part where he asks death to help him lift the logs signifies that as long as Atrues is with him he is willing to carry his burdens and keep on living (he found purpose with his new family).
*Spoilers for Red Dead Redemption 2, The Last of Us Part 2, God of War Ragnarok, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3, and Horizon Zero Dawn/Forbidden West.* Death is a powerful storytelling tool - it can make or break a story, case in point, Arthur Morgan vs Joel Miller. However, averting death can be equally powerful. When all odds are stacked against our heroes, and they are at death's door, but the bonds they made, the experiences they gained throughout the story make them pull through, just in the nick of time. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3 and God of War Ragnarok are fantastic examples. Horizon's story is also shaping out to end with Aloy's sacrifice, mirroring Elisabeth, but unlike Liz, Aloy made friends, and gathered experience throughout the story - and if well executed, her survival could feel incredibly satisfying and well-earned.
When I first heard this story, I felt that it was Kratos saying how he felt during his last moments where he was dying at the end of GOW3. I already thought that the mural showing Kratos dying was a red herring considering Atreus already served Odin. But man, when Kratos finished that story later, it truly felt like he WAS talking about that time! I can’t even begin to imagine how he felt when he didn’t want to die.
In the next arc they should let Kratos going into fountain of youth or something in order to regain his youth.He admitted getting old and weaker and the other three pantheon/mythology was not an easy feat especially Egypt.
Actually the producers said that old Kratos is stronger in the newer two games. The only reason he's holding back a lot of his power is to teach Atreus and he's not as rageful anymore
The old man, like Kratos, found life and responsibility too taxing and wanted to give up. But the actual appearance of Death made him reconsider that choice and, knowing there are people who need him, he just asked for his burden back. Moral? Giving up might be easier but it's not as glorious as one thinks. There is glory in living.
As the story later finishes, the man called for Death and when Death came, he realized he was not ready to die, so he asked Death to help him carry the logs instead. The intention being I think paired with the scene with Faye is meant to symbolize Kratos's realization that he still has so much to live for. He's not just living for his wife's memory or just to help his son become a man, he is beginning to find purpose and meaning in his own life, which culminates at the end where he sees a prophecy of him being loved and worshipped as a peaceful God, carrying Faye's axe. He's finally learning to live his own life free of his guilt and his past.
@@alexh.3045 could also be when he met calliope again and had to save the world from persephone but i think your analogy is probably more in the right direction
hes talking about his multiple suicide attempts in the greek saga games. he “calls for death” but decides to keep hanging on and found a reason to keep living. at least thats how i took it. theres the scene later with Faye in his dream where Faye tells Kratos what to do when she dies and Kratos says shes taking control of her death, then she replies something like “you tried doing the same too once, right?” kratos says “that was different.” Faye is taking control of her burial process, Kratos was literally trying to take control of his own death.
Tengo entendido que es una historia de la antigua Grecia Pero para el contexto de esta escena es Kratos diciéndole a su hijo, estoy viejo cansado y quiero morir para descansar, pero no quiero dejarte hijo y no estoy listo para morir no aun.
Himself probably, he attempted to kill himself multiple time back in the day, when he know he's going to die protecting Atreus, he accept it. But after Ragnarok, he realised that he don't want to die yet and found purpose to live other than Atreus, so he altered the story at the end of the game.
Kratos hated his life but found new purpose in Faye and Atreus. That’s what I got from it
And is continuing to do so with his new friends
In the older games, he never had the friendship or support of anyone. The closest were Orkos (from GoW Ascension) and Athena, with the latter having ulterior motives. Gaia maybe, but like Athena she was just using him. Then GoW 2018 came along and we got Mimir and Freya who genuinely appreciated him. No wonder he was a prick in the older games; he literally had no friends and a dead family thanks to the Olympian gods.
@@adamlis9321 all was kratos needed was company and comfort, something that gives him hope that makes him see things clear but yea in the older days kratos never had anyone but his weapons and rage which he sought only satisfaction and not comfort
yeah he was ready to “call for death” or “take control of his death” as Fate puts it aka his multiple suicide attempts due to the guilt of killing his family, he realised achieving vengeance didn’t fill the hole in his life like he thought it did. but he took Faye’s advice to “open his heart” and kept living, found a reason to keep holding on (Atreus, new friends and a potential to be a God worthy of worship)
I think it’s deeper than that. He killed himself on the 3rd game cuz he had accomplished his vengeance. But he came back before meeting them. I think it’s because he wasn’t finished with life. Yes they gave him meaning to continue but this was kratos coming to peace with his personal depression he concurred on his own.
"Listen boy, there once was a god named Helios. I ripped his head off while screaming really loud at him. The end."
Cursed comment💀
then there was Aphrodite. She granted me access to my journey but wanted to have sex with me. I obliged. She was my sister too.
🤣🤣🤣
Something like this? "You know boy I once chopped of Hermes's legs for his fancy pair of shoes and theke killed him".
...This comment aged really well!
I like the shakiness in his voice during the story and the slight tremble on his mouth after watching Atreus leave. Finally not shoving down his emotions
He also thought he was going to die in the fight
That's what makes Christopher Judge's performance so good, and GOW Ragnarok the GREATEST GAME STORY EVER TOLD!
There was a old man who chopped wood for his village. Every evening, he bore the logs on his back and delivered them to his people. But the logs were heavy, and he grew weaker as time went. Then one day. he threw down the logs, as he could no longer bear their weight, and he called for Death to come to him. And when Death arrived, he asked why the old man had called for him. Seeing Death before him caused the man to reconsider his request. After a moment, he asked that Death help him lift the logs onto his back, so that he may continue on his journey. He wished to keep living.
A few things here
First of all, this was a great way for Kratos to tell his story, how he grew tired of the burdens he was carrying and ultimately tried to kill himself but simply couldn’t die, he came to the realization that he couldn’t die because deep down, he wasn’t ready to die, and while he could try to deny it, the truth was always going to be there, keeping him going, so he chose to carry his burdens anyway, and keep pushing forward
Second, the way Atreus makes Kratos promise to finish the story, and the way Atreus almost looked like he was pretending to sleep, it felt like Atreus was making Kratos promise to stay alive, he made Kratos promise to defy his fate, and Kratos agreed to that promise. He would defy fate for his son
Third, Kratos looked so sad as he looked at Atreus sleeping, and I know why, he never wanted this for his son, he never wanted to march his son to war, and here he is, about to do exactly that and even lead the army, he’s likely heartbroken, his son has seen conflict, but never has Atreus experienced the heartbreaking, soul crushing, joy destroying horrors of war, and that’s exactly what he was marching towards. Kratos can’t think of anything worse than that
That's quite and analysis....thanks for this beautiful elaboration.
I think a part of it is also that Kratos cries because it's a metaphor for himself.
You can tell he's not obliged to recount his struggles without thinking because he's just used to it. He can bear with the fact that his life was suffering. But somewhere along the line, he gained love from family. And while he remained obliged to his eventual prophecy of death, saying his story in front of his son is suddenly making him realize something.
At the final hour of it all, he doesn't want to die. He's scared of having to leave Atreus behind to mourn him. When "Death" finally arrived, the man hesitated, and the story didn't finish itself until he had chosen to keep living.
Kratos cries for the son he's run out of time to be with. And he's proud of him. It's just that he doesn't want to let him go yet and accept that Ragnarok will cause his "death". It's too painful.
I’m probably wrong but maybe he also meant training Atreus knowing death was imminent but eventually choosing to avert his fate
All the power and strength he posses, all the victories from battles, yet getting his son to quiet his mind and fall asleep brings him the most satisfaction.
Idk why, but this scene got me properly crying. Any other scene in this game simply teared me up, but the melancholy of this scene combined with the character who is at its centre and the music, hit me hard in the heart.
Jesuit theater at its finest. They seem to have applied their mastery of esoteric symbolism through story telling to video games.
Yes, the background music......sounded like Japanese yet soothing....while he's telling the story....quite peaceful and sad at the same time.....awesome.
Do you guys think he was talking about himself?
@@thedevilsreaper6590probably, I wouldn’t doubt it honestly
Me too Man .. me too…
This is what I love about serious and mostly angry characters. It makes the moments of all other emotions stand out much more.
This moment was such a huge red flag when atreus asks him to "finish his story in the morning" if he falls asleep, which he does just before Kratos states the old wood loggers fate after death appears to him, indicating Kratos will indeed "finish his story" on multiple levels by dying in the battle the next day. Him looking so sorrowful at his son thinking this was their last day together. Fortunately it turned out to be a red herring instead, Kratos realized he wanted to keep living.
Man I almost cried during this scene. I thought kratos was going to die
me too
Well he died several times so..
@@davidtobing2202 but I mean like for good
Man I DID cry. This has to be one of my favorite moments in fiction.
This scene is so heavy. They try to defy fate and forge their own destiny but at the same time, tries to accept and be prepare of the fate that had already written. Atreus came in to sleep with Kratos in case this will be his last time spending with his father and Kratos wanted to give something to Atreus in a form of a story, something for him to leave behind for his son in case he couldn't make it...
This scene literally made me cry because I was sure Kratos would die at the end and the fact that Kratos was sad that he had to see his Son in a war. I am very grateful that Kratos managed to survive and even manage to be a loved and respected god by others.
When i first heard the story i thought Kratos was getting weaker, but now i understand that Kratos's strength comes from will power, and when he's fighting for Atreus/Faye he truly demonstrates to be stronger than his past self.
Well yeah thats sort of how it works for anyone.
Fighting for someone or to save someone you love will give you a higher chance at victory because you will dig in as much as possible rather than just fighting left and right without motivation.
I think it all just boils down to motivation, to fight for something or someone weither if it is for love or revenge.
I think what's beautiful about this story is that the ending of the story is changed, you only hear the ending of the story after Kratos' development and growth. The way he starts to choke and hesitates and pauses to finish, and check on Atreus first before finishing is what's heart breaking to me. Because the true ending of that story, should of been. "He asked death to take him away." Which I felt like was also a parallel to the fact that Kratos more or less accepted that he was going to die soon. He's someone who questioned fate but when it came to the prediction of his death, he hardly fought against it. More over, he went to even greater lengths to make sure Atreus would be fine, after he's gone.
But then hearing him finish with no pause or issues, even mentions "reconsidering"(because obv story is a parallel to his life), and finding strength to carry on. A twist of fate both in the story he tells and the story he's in.
Pretty sure the ending would have been the same, it's just the story held more emotional weight before ragnarok because there was a good chance he would die during it and like the old man he wasn't ready to go, where as afterwards he didn't have any issue sharing the ending cause he was no longer facing his own death
Pretty sure the story he is telling is a reflection of Kratos own life. Part of the reason why it's sort of painful for him to tell the story.
There was an old man that chopped wood for his village, every evening he board the logs on his back and delivered them to his people, but the logs were heavy as he grew weaker as time went, and one day he threw down the logs as he can no longer bare their weather and he called for death to come to him, and when death arrived he asked why the old man had called for him, seeing death before him made the old man reconsider his request, after a moment he asked that death help him lift the logs onto his back, so that he may continue on his journey.
His stories man
Always great to listen to and think about, even the short purposeful ones from the previous games.
This bedtime story hits extra hard when you remember that in Greece, Thanatos, the Death God, has a twin brother named Hypnos, who is the God of Sleep.
No one leaves "forever", Atreus ventures off on a solo quest and unless he fails will return.
Fun Fact: This loving and patient father is the same killing machine that took down olympus all by himself. And the funny part is that, in the context of the series as a whole, it absolutely makes sense. That is how you make a good character development
2:47 I cried so much
I haven’t cried this hard since Red Dead Redemption 2😢
Ooofff that was painful as well
What a tearjerker to see Kratos cry.
There is a similar story from Serbian folklore called "The Old Man and Death" and it has been in the reading material for elementary school students for generations. I'm proud of that.
Isn’t that one of Aesops fables?
Kratos The All Father, The God of Peace.
The God of Wisdom may be more apt. Kratos has grown older and wiser since GoW3 and he's finally stepped out of Ares' shadow, but he's averse, not *opposed* to throwing hands if he has to.
Avoiding conflict whenever possible, but not afraid to swing his axe when it's not. It seems to me that through the culmination of his many life experiences that's the very definition of Kratos right now, and Wisdom embodies that much better than Peace.
Dad of Boy
God of *Justice.*
@@NatyaVT He became wiser than Athena
This scene made me cry. Specifically when his voice cracks as he’s talking about how he gave up and just wanted to die.
The old man was Kratos and death was probably Loki since he was the cause of a 'death' to Kratos but he wasn't ready to give up even though earlier he states that he wouldn't try to change his death or that Atreus is able to survive on his own should Kratos perish
To me, it's just that kratos has beared the burden of his past for so much time, but just when he had no purpose left he found one that made him want to keep living.
@@Al-taninbingo
As someone who has called for death a multitude of times this story makes me incredibly sad, an amazing motivating game.
I played this entire game as my wife watched, and this scene broke her.
Be honest.
It broke you too, just a little bit.
Parents: video games are horrible and desensitize people to violence!
Video games:
imagine sleeping in armor. must be hella uncomftable
I once had a phase where i slept in my cloth and well you get used to it
@@petersander5802 i did too. But sleeping in full metal plates is a whole lot worse
Well since it's cold where they are it's probably lined with cloth because cold metal is a pain to deal with
Hell nah it keeps his shoulders from moving its basiclly like stretching his body even when he sleeps for maxiumum growth i wish i slept in armor
Freya outside like dang it. I gave the boy his own tent
This story is called the angry barnacle….he was so angry, everyone died…..the end
the story of these two games are beautiful.
Seeing Kratos almost cry, almost break, was both sad and somewhat nice to see.
He actually telling about how he want to suicide by falling to cliff back in original game
3:11 now I truly know what Kratos meant back then
"I had hoped to spare you..."
Kratos spent so long wanting to die. Spent so long ready for death to come. But now he realizes that he has something worth living for in Atreus and his friends.
This was the moment he realized that he didn't want to die.
There was a old man who chopped wood for his village. every eveing he would bore the logs on his back and deliver them to his people but the logs were heavy and he grew weaker as time went and one day he threw down the logs as he could no longer bear there weight and he call death to call for him when death came he ask why the old man called for him seeing death before him made him recondier his choice after a while he asked death to help him carry the logs for him
3:02
I couldn't stop crying
Every story that Kratos has ever told Atreus are reflections of his past. He begged for “Death” to take him, but Kratos continued to live his life and eventually fell in love with Faye and became a better father!
Kratos held his cest because his heart was breaking. Losing one child and having to say goodbye to another, probably for a very long time. It's simply heartbreaking but in a good way, ya know?
What’s interesting is that he would tell his son a story and that he had this in mind to tell him. Just excellent storytelling literrally
Part of what makes this scene so heavy (pun intended) is how relatable it feels, to me at least. Every day I take care of my people, just as many of you do. But it is difficult to do, and over time and as burdens pile up, it gets more difficult to do and the temptation to give up, turtle up, etc comes in. But we have to pick ourselves up, carry our responsibilities, and move forward for those we care about
I watch the first minute exactly before falling asleep every night.
"Listen boy....There once was a hero named Ragnar the Red, who came riding to Whiterun from old Rorikstead!.."
Am I the only one that wants to see a game or DLC where Atreus ends up somehow back in time when kratos either just killed or was battling the Greek gods.
yes
God of War Ragnarök - Dad of the Year Edition. It would be a crime if it isn't named that.
Hmmm after seen this video i suddenly realised, That love can give meaning to our existence.
They set up Kratos death so well that I was preparing myself for it. Luckily we got a better outcome
This... THIS is why Naughty Dog will never come CLOSE to God of War.
This hits home for me more harder than you realize.
To put it in this story's context, I'm a villager who watched the old man carry the logs every evening, who saw the old man collapse and beg for death, but, who is unable to chop and bring as much wood for his village.
1:49🪵3:37
İ wanna know the name of the music when he started to say the story
The story Kratos tells is actually a story from Ancient Greece. Search "The old Man and Death by Aesop". Kudos to the writers for doing their research!
Dude the fact Atreus pretends to be asleep so that Kratos is obligated to live to finish the story...
Whats the soundtrack during the story called?
I took this story to be about Kratos at the end of GoW3, but reading the replies i cant see how death would be Loki
It's not Loki at all
I had to tell myself bed time stories later I told my son stories o broke the cycle
Can anyone explain what this story actually is though? Like who was the farming farming logs?
Or is it all a metaphor for Kratos doing this same thing for so long?? And him finally understanding what the fates are saying and succumbing to his prophecy
It's a metaphor
Pretty sure the logs were Kratos burdens and regrets he carried, and him wishing he could die to end them all.
hes talking about his multiple suicide attempts in the greek saga games. he “calls for death” but decides to keep hanging on and found a reason to keep living. at least thats how i took it. theres the scene later with Faye in his dream where Faye tells Kratos what to do when she dies and Kratos says shes taking control of her death, then she replies something like “you tried doing the same too once, right?” kratos says “that was different.” Faye is taking control of her burial process, Kratos was literally trying to take control of his own death.
The story is about a man carrying many burdens and regrets (logs). He was strong at first but time wore him down. He could no longer carry the weight, so he thew the logs down and called for death (giving up/kratos's suicide attempt). This act signifies a lack of purpose and meaning (vengeance brought kratos no satisfaction). The final part where he asks death to help him lift the logs signifies that as long as Atrues is with him he is willing to carry his burdens and keep on living (he found purpose with his new family).
*Spoilers for Red Dead Redemption 2, The Last of Us Part 2, God of War Ragnarok, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3, and Horizon Zero Dawn/Forbidden West.*
Death is a powerful storytelling tool - it can make or break a story, case in point, Arthur Morgan vs Joel Miller.
However, averting death can be equally powerful. When all odds are stacked against our heroes, and they are at death's door, but the bonds they made, the experiences they gained throughout the story make them pull through, just in the nick of time. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3 and God of War Ragnarok are fantastic examples.
Horizon's story is also shaping out to end with Aloy's sacrifice, mirroring Elisabeth, but unlike Liz, Aloy made friends, and gathered experience throughout the story - and if well executed, her survival could feel incredibly satisfying and well-earned.
When I first heard this story, I felt that it was Kratos saying how he felt during his last moments where he was dying at the end of GOW3.
I already thought that the mural showing Kratos dying was a red herring considering Atreus already served Odin. But man, when Kratos finished that story later, it truly felt like he WAS talking about that time!
I can’t even begin to imagine how he felt when he didn’t want to die.
The suicidal vibes of this scene was killing me.
In the next arc they should let Kratos going into fountain of youth or something in order to regain his youth.He admitted getting old and weaker and the other three pantheon/mythology was not an easy feat especially Egypt.
Actually the producers said that old Kratos is stronger in the newer two games. The only reason he's holding back a lot of his power is to teach Atreus and he's not as rageful anymore
Greek gods get stronger with age.
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@@dailybugle2147 but is he a greek god anymore since he's lost all the magic from there as was said in the game
I think this is about kratos against barbarian, when he lose, he ask ares to prevail the war
Atreus was invisible for me😭🤣. I had to see if that was a glitch
Freya gave her tent to Atreus so that kratos can ⭕
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Soo really quick can anyone explain the meaning of the story he was telling?
The old man was Kratos and death might've been Loki
The old man, like Kratos, found life and responsibility too taxing and wanted to give up. But the actual appearance of Death made him reconsider that choice and, knowing there are people who need him, he just asked for his burden back.
Moral? Giving up might be easier but it's not as glorious as one thinks. There is glory in living.
As the story later finishes, the man called for Death and when Death came, he realized he was not ready to die, so he asked Death to help him carry the logs instead. The intention being I think paired with the scene with Faye is meant to symbolize Kratos's realization that he still has so much to live for. He's not just living for his wife's memory or just to help his son become a man, he is beginning to find purpose and meaning in his own life, which culminates at the end where he sees a prophecy of him being loved and worshipped as a peaceful God, carrying Faye's axe. He's finally learning to live his own life free of his guilt and his past.
@@alexh.3045 could also be when he met calliope again and had to save the world from persephone but i think your analogy is probably more in the right direction
hes talking about his multiple suicide attempts in the greek saga games. he “calls for death” but decides to keep hanging on and found a reason to keep living. at least thats how i took it. theres the scene later with Faye in his dream where Faye tells Kratos what to do when she dies and Kratos says shes taking control of her death, then she replies something like “you tried doing the same too once, right?” kratos says “that was different.” Faye is taking control of her burial process, Kratos was literally trying to take control of his own death.
He doesn't leave forever. I respect your videos' titles man, get the clickbait off of there!
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Atreus outfit should be blue
What’s the song in this scene called?
This scene really made me wet my eyes
Is he talking about himself and his horrible past?
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I wonder who's this old man that kratos spoke about
Tengo entendido que es una historia de la antigua Grecia
Pero para el contexto de esta escena es Kratos diciéndole a su hijo, estoy viejo cansado y quiero morir para descansar, pero no quiero dejarte hijo y no estoy listo para morir no aun.
Who was he talking about?
Himself probably, he attempted to kill himself multiple time back in the day, when he know he's going to die protecting Atreus, he accept it. But after Ragnarok, he realised that he don't want to die yet and found purpose to live other than Atreus, so he altered the story at the end of the game.
Wowwww
wow
Thee best story telling I have heard of in years. I am so happy Chris Judge won an award for his performance.🥹