Analysis of the Modern 10-Pin Bowling Swing and Release by Dean Champ
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- This video was made using slow motion footage to analyse the modern 10-Pin Bowling swing and release. Areas of analysis are the swing plane, knee continuation, the hinge, balance arm forward - thumb down, the apex of the swing, working the inside, the release - cupped to uncupped, the release - cocked to uncocked, and the follow through.
Bowlers featured include PBA stars Chris Barnes, Mike Fagan, Sean Rash, Bill O'Neill, Tommy Jones, Mika Koivuniemi, Rhino Page, Dominic Barrett, Martin Larsen, Norm Duke, Pete Weber, Wes Malott, Robert Smith, Mike DeVaney, Choi Won Young and more....
Thanks to coaches Patrick Birtig, Joe Slowinski and Jim Merrell, and also a big thanks to IABowling Channel for use of their footage and all the excellent work they do to promote the sport of bowling worldwide, and to Jani (jantukan channel) and others for uploading great HD footage.
Please Note: This video was created as a free resource intended for education and promoting the sport of 10-pin bowling, but it is not to be downloaded from TH-cam or reproduced without permission. I make no money from this video.
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the music made me feel like I was watching a conspiracy video
These lanes and bowlers are rigged with motion sensors, pressure pads and LASERs to monitor the biomechanics and physics of what's going on. The data's analysed at the Pentagon so Obama and co can better understand how to bomb foreign aid workers and selfless, charitable doctors with greater precision ;)
That's exactly what I thought!
...yea, what's up with all the videos needing techno pop music? It seems everyone have to do it. I don't get it.
You are, Sonny. Bowling IS a conspiracy. Beware
Please, never take this video down. It is by far the most interesting, most instructional video I've seen on the modern game. Kudos to you for putting it together.
Watching this video helped me shoot my first 300.
Congratulations!!!!! Hope you get more 300's, and are you going pro now???
I've been bowling for 17 years-since I was five. This is easily the most informative video I've seen in that time. Great work, Dean. And thanks for posting!
Wait you re mike fagan right
Awesome video. I wouldn't have included Stu Williams in the follow-through portion, though. He doesn't even follow through, really.
came 9 years later to laugh because that follow through makes it pretty much impossible to hit up on it, which far too many people do. I've had a gold coach tell me to try and emulate mine closer to his when I have that problem.
Finally the video I was looking for. Great analysis! Thanks for all the hard work.
I bowled a 300 in my 1st college tournament in vegas... it was awesome. The porn music motivated me to splooge on the keyboard in memory of that momentous moment
1 verbiage/terminology refinement: knee continuation vs. center of gravity or maybe stance. What you are terming as knee continuation is an effect of the bowlers transitioning from a strong core, vertical upper body, well balance plant with their ball in hand to a stance which maintains their center of gravity without the ball and compensating for momentum. The key is ballanced, strong plant step prior to throwing the ball allows them to grip the ball more effectively and release it with those extra revs.
Excellent video. Glad to see the variety of swings and releases. Especially happy to see you included the left handers.Visualizing seems to be much easier for the bowler to understand. Appreciate the work that was put into this.
one of the most useful vidoes
hey thanks for this dean, I'm trying to switch from a very traditional release to this more powerful one, and this footage was very useful.
I've been trying to learn this "Yo-Yo" release as well.. Not easy, but sure looks better than the old way. I just need more practice.
Where is Roy Munson in this video?
My dad said I'm the best at bowling and golf since I bowl a 72 and golf a 300
this is a GREAT video- one of the best i've seen- this is geared for the higher averages bowlers- yet at same time good advice/tips for up and coming bowlers who wants to bowl in the pba
by the way- what music is this? i love this! i'd like to purchase the cd- thanks!
I've watched this at least ten times, I've nearly perfected my swing within a month
Practice makes better, not perfect, there is no such thing as perfect.
One of the most informative bowling videos I’ve ever seen
I still can't figure it out. Like the golf swing, I suspect these bowlers are all making "secret," or let's say, very subtle, but essential, moves that are difficult for the untrained eye to detect even under a slow motion microscope.
They have the ability to throw tension free (or very close to it). Ams do not.
That's why their swings look effortless and smooth. They aren't overpowering the ball or muscling it.
163 gutterball goofs disliked this!
Add Robert smith...best unrealized full talent the game never got to completely see
'Scuse me while I scoop up my melted brain off the floor. I never would have imagined there be so many tiny details in bowling. I am officially intimidated now to try and learn how to bowl.
Kenneth Snyder Me too, but an awesome video. Don’t try this until you get the basics down. It’s like learning to play tennis, then watching the pros break all the rules.
Realmente no es nada sencillo, muchos dicen que le ven tirar pinos o eso no se considera deporte, es sólo una actividad!! Realmente si es un deporte de exhibición y es muy preciso, no sólo se maneja la exactitud en la puntería, también es mucha técnica y son cálculos que se deben de analizar antes de cualquier tiro, también otro punto que se debe de tomar en cuenta es la concentración, lamentablemente no saben de que trata por lo que no se incluye en las olimpiadas, es bastante complejo, un buen jugador sabe interpretar la pista y su aceitado...
Aes Dana pulse rate
I've just had one of the release videos removed for copright infringement, and PBA Channel has recently been removed too, so i'm going to try and get all the footage approved first before uploading, as i don't want any copyright issues. If i can't get fair use of the footage i've got though, i don't know if there will be a Part 2, and Part 1 and my other compilation videos might be in jeopardy too.
Best analysis I've seen. thanks for your video library. I've been getting a lot out of them.
I have a question about the video, what fps was it shot in? Me and my roommate want to get a camera hopefully around 150 bucks or less that can shoot our releases and I was wondering what is important for that. I heard anywhere from around 120 fps to 240 fps could do the trick? What else is important to make sure quaility is good enough for us to see the release besides enough light! and what camera do you suggest?
Exceptional, awesome and bowlerific. Your presentation has been an inspiration and learning tool for me to achieve my bowling goals. I have saved it and will share it with friends, but not my competitors. Once again.. thank you.. Oh... the hell with the haters.. This information should be taught in every bowling camp.Roc200
Thank you so much for sharing!!! it is really helpful
This is what I needed.. Just going to put it on continuous loop till I get it in grained. Thanks!.... BTW I am curious, are there any pro's who do not slide?
Thanks i will be giving a try for league. I got a new finger tip ball and am learning to create hook i think this an practice will help. My new high game is 190 and series of 752 with handicap. I cant wait first year on league.
hey dean champ. on 3:41 what games was that. Chris Barnes vs Sean Rash vs Jason Belmont. I tried to look for it and I can't find it.
Joseph Velasquez It's from the 2012 PBA Shark open
you are wrong 20alphabet, i do not censor public debate or remove people's opinions. youtube does though if there are too many negative votes or others flag it as spam. so please don't pretend to know what my view of reality is, as you are making assumptions (and being offensive), you know nothing about me or my philosophy on bowling; this is a bowling analysis video, not a statement about the state of the game today.
Great video, I'm gonna have my first bowling next week, learned a lot. What is the music please? I really like it.
Fantastic video. Great analysis, the slo-mo will help a lot of bowlers understand what the best are doing compared to the average chucker.
Watching this and incorporating into my game could make the most improved bowler on my team! I'm going to give it my best shot.
Awesome video. I took up bowling last year and ended the season with a decent average for a rookie (175 ). I've hit a "sophmore slump" and my average has plummeted to 160. This video has helped me see some of the things I've been ignoring this year and also some new things I can try. Thanks
Do all bowlers curl the pinkie finger in?
No, but it is pretty common.
Best bowling video ever. It's difficult to learn how to bowl when no one can demonstrate the correct methods. This allows you to visualize the proper technique and work towards appropriate technique. Thanks for creating this and sharing.
Help me with my bowling form!
Please help me with my bowling form! Average 202 and climbing. Balls- Freak n Frantic (pin up), Manic (pin down), Tropical Breeze (pin up). Typical house shot. (Pretty dry during this vid) Have been bowling for over 10 years and at one time I used to be really good but I have taken a few years off and now I'm getting back into it again. I need some more tips to help me with my problems like my high backswing, my back swing wrapping around my back, I can't stay behind the ball during my backswing... Etc. any advice helps thanks!
Bowled for the first time in a while and kind of took it seriously last night cause I figured out how to hook. Wake up today, sorest I've been in a long time, who knew.....bowling.
さすがにアメリカンプロボウラーはスゴイです。スローで見るとスゴく勉強になります。けれどボウリングもスポーツだから理論と実戦とは合わないからボウリングも非常に難しいスポーツなのです。単純にPBAのカッコイイフォームを真似するのもスコアアップの要因にもなりました❗️ボウリングは素晴らしい‼️
this is all wrong...trying to re-invent the wheel here...ALL these dude careers will suffer with injuries..like cannot slide on your final step??? c'mon dudes it's simple physics and body mechanics....following through without the slide for example will screw your lower body up sooner than later...more later...just think
Really well made vid.
Even as a bowling beginner cud easily understand and learn a thing or two, actually cud learn a lot, from this vid
This is fucking awesome...
Anyone who disliked this video, was probably playing with them selves.... just saying. Thx for demo!!!
Any advice on what ball to buy? I'm only a newbie in bowling but got so interested in it. Been able to achieve hooking the ball and work on my approach. Now, I'm working on consistency, hopefully a starter ball would help on that, and also help my fingers not hurt as much.
Thank you for this Video. It is exactly what I was looking for. Music too.
8:43. No better picture is needed. That's why Norm and Walter were two of the best. They both looked almost identical coming out of the ball.
Knee continuation has nothing to do with anything. When your foot stops sliding your knee has all of your body weight behind it, so it stands to reason that your knee will continue to flex and give you a "soft landing" at the foul line. If your knee doesn't flex you will probably fall forward on your face, so practically everybody is going to flex their knee without thinking about it. Furthermore, the ball is already off your hand so there is no way that knee flex continuation can influence it in any way.
And, BTW, bowlers have known since holes were first put in bowling balls that the thumb must come out first in order for the bowler to get any hook action on the ball. Duh!
Awesome video analysis. Thanks for creating!
Nice!! I took a different route, teaching myself every step of the way. After I turned to 2 handed, I was 160 over night. The practice is what made me good, not the teaching. I think being taught is nice, but after you have a decent axis tilt, all you really need for the recipe is the 10,000 hours of practice. If your ball does not hook correctly, you need training in my opinion. Anyway, I have been bowling for 4 years, and currently hold the world record for strikes in a min (Shows channel)
i must wach this video at least twice a week. last august when i discovered this video, i was proud to break 140, now i bowl a 600 series every night. Not saying theres a correlation or anything ^_^
well, I'm not a regular bowler at all but having an interest in physics and crap bowling technique I really enjoyed and appreciate this video; thanks!
Excellent slow motion video. I used to have a problem with staying balanced at the line, so worked with a coach. Want to see the results? th-cam.com/video/-1jtVbZF3NI/w-d-xo.html
Fantastic video
I would always believe that I had to do too much to get revs on the ball. I'd hit up on the ball with my fingers and/or wrist. After I learned to just let the ball roll off my hand I started seeing more revs. It really is effortless.
That modern releases are incredible. I still can't figure out a basic "handshake" relase ... :( missing talent ...
Very interesting
What is the music? Thx
That was great.
Outstanding job. The video "says" it all.
This is an incredible vid. Thanks, man.
There is one more STRIKING similarity amongst the bowlers show here and many other of the same caliber, the non sliding foot, more often than not, does not make contact with ground at the point of release, I believe that this aspect of the POWER delivery contributes to being able to project the ball further down lane on a straighter trajectory allowing the ball to conserve even more energy until the ball reaches the break the break point.
I appreciate the video however I disagree with a lot of the analysis. For example, you drew a line and call it a 'swing plane' Essentially, a straight line from the starting position to the target the bowler is attempting to hit. This along with the camera angle defeat the actual physics of the swing, which in most bowlers you pictured was an 'inside/out' figure eight motion. If you watch the ball direction from directly behind the bowler, it is not straight at all. Good video interesting takes
Ihavebadaim, not knowing your height, weight, or build a general rule for selecting a bowling ball is one pound per year. So a 13 or 14 pound ball is okay. From reading your post it sounds like you are using a house ball. I would recommend that you purchase yourself a ball and have it drilled to your specifications. Your pro shop at your local alley can assist you with this.Next, there are all types of wrist braces that can help you maintain a cupped positions. Again, check your local pro shop.
Hey, I need help. I'm 13 years old and my bowling alley has 2 fingertip balls and I use a 14 pound one. This might be to heavy considering im only 13. i can keep my wrist cupped when i bring the ball up but when i go to release the ball i dont have time to think and let my thumb out and flick my fingers. i end up throwing a good speed ball with low revs. i usually cup my wrist but turn my hand in so the ball is kinda behind my back and i do good like that. i just want to know how to release good
This Is an awesome video ! I stumbled onto It last night. Already took some notes and will use some of this In my next practice session. Been reading and using Mark Bakers book "The Game Changer" and have been Improving steadily. This will be a nice compliment to the book .... You said that you are putting part 2 together ? Sounds great ! Looking forward to seeing It !! Great job ...
I sound similar to kevall1. Started "serious" bowling (i.e.: bought a ball, shoes, learned a hook) in April. Finished summer league with a 173 average, but then I broke my right wrist in August (ice hockey) and am just now getting back to my right side after surgery. (I bowled left in the meantime, high game 220! :) But as I get back to "form", this video should be GREAT for helping better my technique which still needed a lot work. THANKS Dean!
Your comment previous to this received too many negative votes and your original comment no longer exists. One of many indications that you're in a small minority of people parallel to those who still refuse to buy a cell phone and continue to use wired house phones. While everyone else looks forward to new technology, you're stuck in this fantasy that things will go back to the way they used to be, but it never will.
So just get over it and enjoy the game like the rest of us.
Oh, geez, you're absolutely right. The PBA is just crumbling before our eyes. What ever will we do? Someone start a petition to shut down every bowling ball manufacturer still using reactive resin cover stocks and weight blocks in their bowling balls! This is an outrage! Bowling is absolutely ruined! BRING BACK THE RUBBER BOWLING BALLS. TECHNOLOGY IS DESTROYING THE ESSENCE OF EVERYTHING AS WE KNOW IT.
Awesome vid! Only point i wanted to clearly understand, is regarding the "hinge" technique. The 1st part of the commentary was that traditionally bowlers push the ball up and away from their body to realize a free swing but the follow up commentary mentions that there's no upward movement of the ball (& then minimum outward movement). So there is upward movement in the pushaway to achieve more momentum & so higher backswing + speed right? But the outward movement meaning??
hello deanchamp, guys and everyone. I am a newbie around here... I want to ask a question that it may sound silly. What will happen if i keep on "cupping" or "cocking" or maybe even doing both "cocking and cupping" my wrist from the start position until follow through ?? Maybe difficulty when exiting the thumb hole or bad ball release or possible of wrist injury or anything bad ?? Thanks for the reply....
I'll take a stab at it; The pros keep the arm closer to the body throughout the swing, so it will have to end up that way to stay on line. Plus, at the release a right-hander is imparting tilt and uncupping, so the forearm will continue further left on the follow through. A shorter follow through will end up with the hand by the face, while a longer one will naturally spill out to the right.
you will notice a elongated "U" shape rather than and abrupt "V" shape.
Next is the trailing leg just after the start of the slide. You will notice that most pros have their toes pointing to the right(right hander) when executing the start of the slide before a sudden snap of the knee action causing a 8-13% increase in rev rates. A great example will be DiandraAsbathy. And in the video @ 7:56 of TommyJones.
Hope this helps in your next video. Feel free to pm me for further pictorial examples.
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Dear DeanChamp,
Loved your upload.! However just for learning sake for all.You have missed out 2 items..
Firstly is the finishing slide with the swing plane. The swing plane included in your video is from the back which i term as head to ball within a rectangle. however swing plane is from the side view. For example, ChrisBarnes uses a long slide to create a longer threshold for mistake recovery.Draw a curved line from the ball at the top of the swing all the way till he releases the ball
i wish there was a great bowler out there that dont use his thumb ive tried many different way to use my thumb on the roll and im just better with out it my highest game use only my middle and ring finger is 276 hope to improve with more practice i may add i dont use a spare ball i dont feel the need if i can do the same with my dv8 nightmare
If I was you I'd find a pro shop dude that uses collier grip for his drilling and he worries about the PITCH of your thumb. This grip takes a little time to learn how to use but it would be very similar to using a 2 finger approach cuz your thumb is basically in the ball only for balance... It also takes a lot of stress off your body when releasing the ball.
Dear people.. love the video..
However regarding the part where players cocked to uncocked, i need to let the people on youtube know that its a MUST to uncock it.. many other players especially kids these days get injuries because when the release is being made, the hand remains cocked thus causing injuries..
Cheers and have fun bowling!!
The outward movement is just extending your arm. It's the horizontal movement in the push-away. In the stance, your arm is bent but it is extended in the push-way so that it can do the whole pendulum free armswing thing. With a "hinge" push-away, this extension of the arm looks less pronounced and the arm just drops more, rather than going out in front of the torso really far.
It should be a natural pendulum, so the higher the ball is at the pushaway the higher the backswing. However, if you're trying for a high backswing remember that backswing usually affects speed, which will cause your ball to react less. Backswing should be natural, if you want height you'll end up muscling it and throwing off your timing.
I'm guessing you force the swing. If you let the weight of the ball create the swing like a pendulum. If you have a tendency to get your hand to the side of the ball then it will get worse it you force it. If you try to slow down your swing that means you will have to use muscles to slow it down and that is not a good thing.
thanks for the advice! i think my problem is with my release. i need to slow it down too i think so i can have my thumb leave first and then let the other fingers hook the ball. i keep thinking that i have to completely turn over on the ball with my whole hand which leads me to turning my wrist a lot. i just need to keep practicing and watch more videos :P
I was like you 2 months ago, but you have to keep practicing.. you just need to relax, the movement is so natural at the end that when you start hooking the ball it becomes automatic. I had a lot of help watching videos like this, my mistake was that I needed to slow the speed a little so I can cup the ball in a better way and get more revs. Hope this helps.. and great video!
Is there a video like this that pertains more to female bowlers? I know that some of this material would cross over, but things such as cocked wrists and left arms forward aren't as common in female bowlers. Would you consider doing a video highlighting things that the top women bowlers do?
The ¨cup un-cup¨ of the release has to do with revs as much as it has to do with control, if you ¨hit up¨on the ball, then your ball motion gets very agressive and jumpy. Thats why so many of them follow through to the left side, trying to ¨roll¨ the ball, not ¨grab¨ it.
Great video.
I keep seeing "traditionally," shouldn't that be "now-a-days" or some variation since the title is "Modern?" The first couple times I saw "traditionally" I was expecting to see the way a particular section used to be done followed by the way it's most often done now.
Excellant footage - I am serious in commending you on your work. It will be a help to Bowling as a Business - The sooner eveyone tries and abandons these over-elaborated and stressfull technices - the better . I mean no offence - but that's what I believe .
hmm.. cocked to uncocked.. that isnt conscious working.. rather aduction/abduction progress
with arm attached to body and folded elbow when down swing, u must unfolded ur elbow right before release in moredern power bowling. at that time ur wrist will be naturally "cocked"
Through practice and some weight training. However, if you really want to get that feel...try use a two-finger release. Watch for the side roll of the ball. This sort of forces you to have it all...bent arm, cupped wrist, and a cocked wrist...but - timing is a little different.
I was looking at my backswing too and found that its mostly in my push that gives the height to my backswing. If I push off harder with my legs, with the ball farther from my body, it does go higher but It actually has messed up my timing so I've gone back to what feels comfortable.
I will agree to disagree, but also understand that the 2-handed approach hasn't been around at the pro level as long as WRW Jr., Duke, and PDW. (Walter Ray likes to toy with the style.) Still, given the smaller number of 2-handers, their level of success is relatively good. I know people talk about 2-handers eventually and theoretically developing back problems, but consider the factual history of one-handers with shoulder, elbow, and hand problems. (I don't even have callouses on my fingers.)
Right. They're also competing against other people with similar advantages, so it's fair. Better two-handers--better bowlers--don't spray the ball. Doesn't matter what year it is. Try that on a tough sport pattern today and see how it turns out.
How many people complain that auto racing was better in the 70's? There is better technology now, from engines to suits. Same in swimming with pool and suit design. In all cases, at the core, there are still people competing against each other.
On second thought. Why not bring back conditions of the past for exhibition beyond the Plastic Ball Championship? Find wood lanes, dress them old-school, and use old tech balls. Different players would adapt at different rates, no doubt, so they should be given enough time to make it a true contest of skill.
To be fair, I know Belmo bowled terrible in Japan one time on wooden lanes. It happens. I still have faith in him as well as other pros. They also have the advantage of perspective.
I guess we'll never /really/ know because the 70's are long gone and they're not coming back. I do know that Belmo won a title using a plastic ball against Fagan who was using a reactive ball. Search for "2009 Bowling Foundation LI Classic: Final Match: Jason Belmonte vs Michael Fagan"
Speed and revs go together. Since Belmo has plenty of both, he could reduce one or the other to match the conditions. Like Mark Roth with less effort. He can roll up the side, swing the lane, and shoot straight.
A pendulum is just that, a pendulum. The shoulder is the fulcrum from which the unbent arm swings freely (rather than pulled then pushed). The unbent arm becomes a lever at release creating leverage. Barry Asher is a prime example of the optimum pendulum arm swing. The two-handed approach appears more like a wrestling match between the bowler and his 15 lb. opponent, in most cases.
So, nothing changed in the 78 years leading up to the 70s?
If you only stick with the old ways, 1 year or 120 years does't matter because you'd never try anything new to know if it would work better.
Your assumptions of the two-handed approach aren't totally accurate, but that's a different topic. (There is at least a pendulum arc during the forward swing of a proficient two-hander. There isn't excessive twisting of the lower back, but there is increased forward bend.)
If a two-handed method was viable SOMEBODY in the last 120 years would've had success with it, yet they hadn't. Not until loaded pins and loaded balls on an artificial surface became approved (by the new governing body) could anyone consistently knock down a sufficient amount of pins in this manner. A pendulum arm-swing is impossible and lower spine twisting is required. The book you mentioned is good but like many Mr. Jowdy isn't static, hoping to stay relevant. Sad, because he knows better.
I meant, '70's style bowlers in their prime in the present day might not be able to keep up. Now we have what some people call "transitional bowlers" which are traditional-style bowlers with updated techniques and equipment. Due to the strength of newer balls, players need to generate more speed while maintaining accuracy. At least on sport patterns, controlling the release and breakpoint is critical, especially with a highly reactive, jumpy ball. (Another skill is making the ball less jumpy.)
If a proficient 70's bowler couldn't "...keep up..." it wouldn't have anything to do with adjusting to differences. It would have to do with the 30-50 year age difference, that's all. Technique hasn't changed either, for the equipment has accommodated the lack of such. Now if the ball isn't doing what you want just go to the bag(s) and try another one. Can't stay behind the ball? Not to worry! The computer designed high-density core will generate all you never could, just call it "late timing"
True to a degree. However, you'll see some of the players shooting plastic and urethane balls against players using reactive balls, playing difficult oil patterns, and scoring at the Plastic Ball Championship. A '70's bowler might not be able to keep up these days as technology has become as much a part of the game as technique, and technique has changed to handle new factors. That's all part of adapting to the conditions and figuring out how to score and outscore your opponent.
Outstanding analyses, something to watch over and over. Even if we can't duplicate, at least we can get similar? What I mean is, remember, how you tried something in the past and could never seem to get it, yet if you kept at it - even if you gave up trying to do it, "suddenly" you were doing it? (Or at least something verisimilar to it?) But, be cautious, last season I had to stop bowling for a couple weeks when I injured myself trying a new style of release. It takes physical conditioning.
Super cool video! What sort of injuries do these folks suffer if any? There's a lot going on here, it's hard to catch it all. Wrist, hips, elbow, maybe? What about repetitive injuries? Looks complicated, never bowled, now I'm interested!
I believe, it is a matter of timing and the steps they use. However if you only look at the height of a ball there is a chimera in there. Since the upper body is tilted towards the faul line even parallel, not above shoulder height will seem like very high.