yeah this was a different dynamic than they had in the book, the changes in the miniseries were largely positive IMO and in other places necessary since with the number of episodes you can't really do slow burn like a novel in all cases fitzjames and croziers actors also kill it
yes they both became better people as things got worse. they both wanted to save as many of the men as they could and both earned each other’s respect. great show.
It's intentional, as that line is showed later in that same episode, I believe It's meant to sound like just a "drunk rambling", then you realize it's actually just mordant wit. It's good Foreshadowing to show that ultimately the liquor is diminishing his ability, but he still has sense and thus the will to resist
The discussion these two have towards the end, walking on the bleak rocky landscape has more depth and acting prowess than most shows have in their entirety, this is a sorely underrated season of great tv, all the actors do a wonderful job and the music is amazing.
Absolutely, when I watched this from start to finish it turned from hopeful explorers looking for the fabled north west passage, to a very cold and hopeless place where there numbers dwindle episode by episode. Until the ones that remain are in two separate camps, both starving and lost all the time being hunted, one camp with no law or much humanity left and the other trying so desperately to hang on to their sanity and lives, whilst staying as normal as the place allows. And in the end all but one are lost, leaving us the viewer gutted that so many lost their lives in such awful circumstances and in absolute terror.
@@mattnar3865 it was. This is the only show where the dialogue is more interesting and engaging than the action. I have never seen that before or since. These dialogue sequences are far more engaging than the Tunbaque attacks.
“Given all that you’re shouldering, perhaps you should curb that for now.” Great line! I imagine he’s saying that to me when I get the urge to crack a few highboys while I’m working late.
Fucked up thing is that girl is cruel enough to give him hope even after twice rejecting him...and crozier just can't accept the word "No" even though the real cracroft loves someone else.... in reality, this happens. Crozier just deeply loves her. Sir John died by that short faced tuunbaq bear and now all Weight rest on this alcoholic depressed irishman.
Meh, to be fair, they wouldnt even be in this mess if they had listened to him in the first place. At that point, the girl was all of their best chance for survival. Plus, he probably wanted to bone her.
Their alcoholic commander was the only reason they might have survived if they had listened to him. Probably because, since he came to impress a girl and not out of ambition, he saw the dangers others missed because they were too busy thinking of glory.
For example, with wood fire, indoors: th-cam.com/video/Ih-CBWnwGHc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheRelaxingTown And just search 'ASMR Wooden Ship' plus perhaps arctic. Arctic version, outdoors: th-cam.com/video/Q_WKl5AkXFM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheBestASMRTherapy
@@SStupendous Not a sir. Just being helpful. Someone may not know there's ambient music on TH-cam or might not think of it in the moment; it says nothing about ones own intellect. What an odd thing to make a displeased comment about, someone being helpful to another person...
@@skullsaintdead I mean sure, it IS helpful, but if someone says "We need video clips from the end of episode 7" and someone replies saying "Look up episode 7", it's not helpful. Youv'e provided substitutes, which aren't exactly what the guy asked for. He was making a joke most likely, even so he could easily have thought of that.
the worst thing is Crozier's momentary lapse of judgement got the ship's boy killed, a type of laspe he wouldn't tolerate in other men. He would rightfully dress them down for it, he broke his own orders to always stay in pairs. That is truly what tears him up inside. He did in fact of all people know better, and know the Tuunbaq isn't merely just some animal.
@@laynedoyle1613 fear of being trapped in the middle of the nowhere? Crew eating poisoned food and slowly dying or going insane? Men's will to stay alive at all cost? Drama between greatly written characters? NAAAH MATE SOME MAGIC VOODOO ZOMBIE BEAR WAS THE BEST PART OF THE SHOW. NOW LET'S WATCH TRANSFORMERS
@@dawida-rd3858 bro calm down yea I like the transformation although in some way I wish they would of done more in that area but it's the 3 way combo that I find rare in movies this is awesome yes you have the slow decay of sanity and the food poisning and the lack of snow melt leaving them hopelessly stranded and causing some to mutiny all while something out there is hunting them all and is and adsolute mystery to what it even is is fucking next level it's that 3 way combo that we never get and makes this legit I just wish more went in to the monster and its looks at least
@@laynedoyle1613 i've heard that book hwavily relied on the monster in the story but still I believe that sometimes less is more. I feel like the strongest parts of the show were these that didn't include this ugly monkey bear. First few episodes were simply amazing, then it all went downhill. I think thet the show would've worked better if they focused on topics mentioned earlier and ignore the paranormal part. The ouside threat is essential to the story but normal bear might have worked better or at least looked better
Fucked up thing is that girl is cruel enough to give him hope even after twice rejecting him...and crozier just can't accept the word "No" even after 1st attempt, though the real Cracroft loves someone else.... in reality, this happens. Crozier just deeply loves her. Sir John died by that short faced tuunbaq bear and now all Weight rest on this alcoholic depressed Irishman.
@@itsanoformedawg Gals that put men in the friendzone, stringing them along by their desperate hopes, knowing those men want to be with them and that they never shall, are inherently cruel. It's a mercy to reject a man outright and be brutally honest with him; many men, romantic fools that they are, squander whole LIFETIMES holding out for "the one" who just uses them...and gals know EXACTLY what they're doing when they play with men's hearts like that, cats pawing at a wounded mice.
Funny the ship looks like a middle class home of that time I guess, with all that heavy furniture & fancy stuff, not too practical or useful in the middle of the arctic.
Yeah the Captains Quarters look pretty lush! Then again, they were like cruise ships of their time. For the officers, no so much the poor swab boys. But I'd love me a cabin with my own bookcases and tea!! 😊
@@Phoebe5448 The Greatroom and The Wardroom (where this scene is set and where the higher ranking officers mess) also doubled as the libraries on terror and Erebus and had no locks so sailors could come in and ask to borrow a book at any time, it would be nice if it weren't for the complete lack of privacy, though there may have been intervals when all the sailors are either working or sleeping.
@@viktoriabentham8664 wow, I didn't know that! Thats fascinating, thank you! I've always loved history and its amazing to hear how people lived only 200 years ago! 😁
The weight of the furniture is nothing. The massive steam engines they had with them only had 12 days worth of fuel, keep in mind it takes a day to get the fire up to temperature. Most of the time the steam engines just served as giant weights.
Honestly if they didn't use the ghost bear, because it just went over the top. While it could be manifestation of their collective minds loosing their sanity. It still looks silly
It was a different world where who your parents were was everything. Victorian Britain was a heavily socially stratified society with little to no social mobility even if you were the best man for the job. To our modern sensibilities and the American desire for meritocracy, Crozier should have been in charge and it’s obvious to us now. So it sounds so strange to us that Crozier wasn’t in charge because he was Irish. The fact they didn’t want an Irishman to be the one who found the Northwest Passage. We consider the Irish “white” now but that was not the case a century and a half ago.
A regular polar bear would have been just as scary and unlike with the ice demon that was a very real threat. Since 80ish starving/sick men marching south was sure to attract predators as men began to die. Polar bears will actively stalk and eat humans. Should have just made the Tuunbaq a larger than average male polar bear.
adding eskimo culture in the retelling of this infamous journey was a mistake. im sick of the modern treatment of anything eurocentric as if its evil. the same navy that sent out these voyages of exploration, fought and died trying to end slavery, while black africans fought to keep it alive. history isnt 'roots', which was a fictional tale as factual as harry potter.
I only have one real problem with the show, the subtitles were EXTREMELY inaccurate and undependable, and on top of the mumbling at points, made it even worse. Especially the Inuit scenes with NO subtitles!?
![[The Terror - Episode 6] Captain Crozier arrives at Carnivale](/img/n.gif)
Love how these two started as antagonistic towards each other, and as the series progressed, becoming great friends. Brothers in trying to survive.
yeah this was a different dynamic than they had in the book, the changes in the miniseries were largely positive IMO and in other places necessary since with the number of episodes you can't really do slow burn like a novel in all cases
fitzjames and croziers actors also kill it
yes they both became better people as things got worse. they both wanted to save as many of the men as they could and both earned each other’s respect. great show.
"Does one not bring one's habits to Terror?"
"Does one not bring one's habits to marriage?"
Amazing call-back chronologically, but not linearly.
It's intentional, as that line is showed later in that same episode, I believe
It's meant to sound like just a "drunk rambling", then you realize it's actually just mordant wit.
It's good Foreshadowing to show that ultimately the liquor is diminishing his ability, but he still has sense and thus the will to resist
The discussion these two have towards the end, walking on the bleak rocky landscape has more depth and acting prowess than most shows have in their entirety, this is a sorely underrated season of great tv, all the actors do a wonderful job and the music is amazing.
Absolutely, when I watched this from start to finish it turned from hopeful explorers looking for the fabled north west passage, to a very cold and hopeless place where there numbers dwindle episode by episode.
Until the ones that remain are in two separate camps, both starving and lost all the time being hunted, one camp with no law or much humanity left and the other trying so desperately to hang on to their sanity and lives, whilst staying as normal as the place allows.
And in the end all but one are lost, leaving us the viewer gutted that so many lost their lives in such awful circumstances and in absolute terror.
Magnificent show. Somehow even the simple conversations draw you in and make you invested in their fate.
I feel like the little conversations are what make the show, it's all about character development and The Terror season 1 is the best at it.
@@mattnar3865 I didn't get into season 2 all that much. Season 1 is tv at its best. Better than Breaking Bad.
@@Styxswimmer I gave up on season 2 a few episodes in, it was a huge disappointment
@@mattnar3865 it was. This is the only show where the dialogue is more interesting and engaging than the action. I have never seen that before or since. These dialogue sequences are far more engaging than the Tunbaque attacks.
My thoughts exactly when i just rewatched this scene. Bloody great actors! Not the crap you get often in cinema these days..
Why’d ya spill yer beans, Crozier? Why’d ya spill yer b e a n s.
The lighthouse was callin him. Plus he couldn’t get Fitzjames drunk and dance to Doodle Let Me Go
That was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the title, such a good movie!
YER FOND OF MY LOBSTER, AINT' YA?
@@pinkiguana1 you're* not yer.
@@Apocalypse-ff5ut A, wrong, it would be your*, B, OP was typing phonetically to sound like the character.
“Given all that you’re shouldering, perhaps you should curb that for now.” Great line! I imagine he’s saying that to me when I get the urge to crack a few highboys while I’m working late.
Jared Harris is amazing in everything.
When he discovers their alcoholic commander is only there to impress a girl the realization that they’re all going to die finally sets in.
Fucked up thing is that girl is cruel enough to give him hope even after twice rejecting him...and crozier just can't accept the word "No" even though the real cracroft loves someone else.... in reality, this happens. Crozier just deeply loves her.
Sir John died by that short faced tuunbaq bear and now all Weight rest on this alcoholic depressed irishman.
Meh, to be fair, they wouldnt even be in this mess if they had listened to him in the first place. At that point, the girl was all of their best chance for survival. Plus, he probably wanted to bone her.
I think its 'cause he realises his own inner doubts and shame (later bared) are not so different to other mens character flaws.
Every thing man ever achieved is to impress a woman.
Their alcoholic commander was the only reason they might have survived if they had listened to him. Probably because, since he came to impress a girl and not out of ambition, he saw the dangers others missed because they were too busy thinking of glory.
alternate title: fitzjames calls crozier a simp
😂
MS. CRACROFT? MS. CRACROFT WHO REJECTED YOU? TWICE, AS I HEARD IT?
...YOU DISCUSSED THIS?
🌷🌹🌸
(...) That's why you're here. Good Christ, Francis!
Fantastic acting.
Fantastic sells it short.
Two masters
If he'd only managed to not spill those beans, they wouldn't have had to resort to cannibalism
girl, the beans were lead poisoned
We need ice cracking wooden ship soundtrack asmr
Take my money
For example, with wood fire, indoors: th-cam.com/video/Ih-CBWnwGHc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheRelaxingTown
And just search 'ASMR Wooden Ship' plus perhaps arctic.
Arctic version, outdoors: th-cam.com/video/Q_WKl5AkXFM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheBestASMRTherapy
@@skullsaintdead I think he's intelligent enough to do that, will due respect sir.
@@SStupendous Not a sir. Just being helpful. Someone may not know there's ambient music on TH-cam or might not think of it in the moment; it says nothing about ones own intellect. What an odd thing to make a displeased comment about, someone being helpful to another person...
@@skullsaintdead I mean sure, it IS helpful, but if someone says "We need video clips from the end of episode 7" and someone replies saying "Look up episode 7", it's not helpful. Youv'e provided substitutes, which aren't exactly what the guy asked for. He was making a joke most likely, even so he could easily have thought of that.
Absolutely awesome....
Everything was top of the class........
God this show was amazing
FJ: Maybe we should tuun bak
Crozier:
FJ:
Haha
Good to see Brutus and Caesar back together again
Poor Crozier (who hates pity): the first loss of a crew member (ship's boy Thomas Evans) that you could argue he's really responsible for.
the worst thing is Crozier's momentary lapse of judgement got the ship's boy killed, a type of laspe he wouldn't tolerate in other men. He would rightfully dress them down for it, he broke his own orders to always stay in pairs. That is truly what tears him up inside. He did in fact of all people know better, and know the Tuunbaq isn't merely just some animal.
A hidden gem.
Great acting awesome show it hooked me in good when I watched it awesome show
I can’t believe that’s Richard Harris’s son
He was in Mutiny Of The Bounty, should've had Fletcher role instead of useless Brando
I can. Because like his father, he is an amazing actor ;)
And you can see the resemblance especially when you find that out
Those officer black frock coats w look so good
Dont worry francis...mr blankey found the passage
A great Serie !!!
Francis 💔 Sofia
La confidenza più intima. Il suo amore tradito. Il fallimento che lo lega alla nave. Quando scende per trovare la libertà troverà anche la vita
This was better then chernobyl except for the man bear
Man Bear Pig
Nahh man bear was the best part only thing that sucked was amcs cheap ass budget
@@laynedoyle1613 fear of being trapped in the middle of the nowhere? Crew eating poisoned food and slowly dying or going insane? Men's will to stay alive at all cost? Drama between greatly written characters? NAAAH MATE SOME MAGIC VOODOO ZOMBIE BEAR WAS THE BEST PART OF THE SHOW. NOW LET'S WATCH TRANSFORMERS
@@dawida-rd3858 bro calm down yea I like the transformation although in some way I wish they would of done more in that area but it's the 3 way combo that I find rare in movies this is awesome yes you have the slow decay of sanity and the food poisning and the lack of snow melt leaving them hopelessly stranded and causing some to mutiny all while something out there is hunting them all and is and adsolute mystery to what it even is is fucking next level it's that 3 way combo that we never get and makes this legit I just wish more went in to the monster and its looks at least
@@laynedoyle1613 i've heard that book hwavily relied on the monster in the story but still I believe that sometimes less is more. I feel like the strongest parts of the show were these that didn't include this ugly monkey bear. First few episodes were simply amazing, then it all went downhill. I think thet the show would've worked better if they focused on topics mentioned earlier and ignore the paranormal part. The ouside threat is essential to the story but normal bear might have worked better or at least looked better
Does one not bring one's habits to terror
Pardon?
I wouldn't reject Mr T.
In the end we become animals again
or Russian scientists or traitors to Scotland
I wish the bear was just a ghost who possessed people on board.
looks like Captain Crozier bounded back well after Don Draper fired him from Sterling-Cooper.
Edward Tully vs James Moriarty
They should be careful, food rations don't last forever
Fucked up thing is that girl is cruel enough to give him hope even after twice rejecting him...and crozier just can't accept the word "No" even after 1st attempt, though the real Cracroft loves someone else.... in reality, this happens. Crozier just deeply loves her.
Sir John died by that short faced tuunbaq bear and now all Weight rest on this alcoholic depressed Irishman.
If she rejected him twice then she might just wanted a friend or felt pity for him and stuck around him. I wouldn't xall her cruel.
@@itsanoformedawgyeah that's evil, fuck that lady.
@@itsanoformedawgThat kind of tolerant weakness is the reason why women always get away with that bullshit behavior.
@@itsanoformedawg
Gals that put men in the friendzone, stringing them along by their desperate hopes, knowing those men want to be with them and that they never shall, are inherently cruel.
It's a mercy to reject a man outright and be brutally honest with him; many men, romantic fools that they are, squander whole LIFETIMES holding out for "the one" who just uses them...and gals know EXACTLY what they're doing when they play with men's hearts like that, cats pawing at a wounded mice.
Are you saying a bear staged a misdirection?
Funny the ship looks like a middle class home of that time I guess, with all that heavy furniture & fancy stuff, not too practical or useful in the middle of the arctic.
This is just the Officer’s Mess. The rest of the ship is far more utilitarian
Yeah the Captains Quarters look pretty lush! Then again, they were like cruise ships of their time. For the officers, no so much the poor swab boys. But I'd love me a cabin with my own bookcases and tea!! 😊
@@Phoebe5448 The Greatroom and The Wardroom (where this scene is set and where the higher ranking officers mess) also doubled as the libraries on terror and Erebus and had no locks so sailors could come in and ask to borrow a book at any time, it would be nice if it weren't for the complete lack of privacy, though there may have been intervals when all the sailors are either working or sleeping.
@@viktoriabentham8664 wow, I didn't know that! Thats fascinating, thank you! I've always loved history and its amazing to hear how people lived only 200 years ago! 😁
The weight of the furniture is nothing. The massive steam engines they had with them only had 12 days worth of fuel, keep in mind it takes a day to get the fire up to temperature.
Most of the time the steam engines just served as giant weights.
If this show had HBO money backing it it would of been 10 out of 10
HBO has been taken over by liberals. they only make crap now.
It IS a 10 out of 10.
@@brian6speed Cope
spot-on... bloody magnificent...👍🇬🇧
@@brian6speed lol liberal money 🤣
why'd you spill ur beans francis
Yer fond o' me lobster, ain't ye?? I seen it! Yer fond o' me lobster!
SAY IT!!!!
@@anneominous7172alright have it your way I like yer cookiing
Honestly if they didn't use the ghost bear, because it just went over the top. While it could be manifestation of their collective minds loosing their sanity. It still looks silly
@2 demons attached
I know but honestly, reality is more terrifying than any work of fiction
I somewhat agree, the mystic bear brought it out the realms of brutal reality and into malleable fantasy
No. Relax.
clearly you haven't read the book.
I understand where you are coming from, but they were just trying to be faithful to the book
💔💔💔💔💔😔😱
You're gonna need... all the pity you have... for what's coming.
Peak romance
"Kin students comments, piss off"
These two predators are found near military research centers so that no one approaches them
Huh
A rather avant-garde take, but I like it!
Elaborate
Privilege is no guarantee of competency. I think it's largely why Americans have no respect for monarchies.
It was a different world where who your parents were was everything. Victorian Britain was a heavily socially stratified society with little to no social mobility even if you were the best man for the job.
To our modern sensibilities and the American desire for meritocracy, Crozier should have been in charge and it’s obvious to us now. So it sounds so strange to us that Crozier wasn’t in charge because he was Irish. The fact they didn’t want an Irishman to be the one who found the Northwest Passage. We consider the Irish “white” now but that was not the case a century and a half ago.
The bear creature ruined the entire series....very disappointed. But Asides from that the series was pretty good
A regular polar bear would have been just as scary and unlike with the ice demon that was a very real threat. Since 80ish starving/sick men marching south was sure to attract predators as men began to die. Polar bears will actively stalk and eat humans.
Should have just made the Tuunbaq a larger than average male polar bear.
The bear ruined the series for you bc you don’t engage with themes at all lmao
adding eskimo culture in the retelling of this infamous journey was a mistake. im sick of the modern treatment of anything eurocentric as if its evil. the same navy that sent out these voyages of exploration, fought and died trying to end slavery, while black africans fought to keep it alive. history isnt 'roots', which was a fictional tale as factual as harry potter.
Not a bad accent but his A's aren't right. Sounds too much like an English A and not an ulster A like the Scots A
I only have one real problem with the show, the subtitles were EXTREMELY inaccurate and undependable, and on top of the mumbling at points, made it even worse. Especially the Inuit scenes with NO subtitles!?