Let's not forget that the movie ends with "the five largest arms producers in the world are also the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council."
Of course they did, truth is truth isn't it? This movie was heavily influenced by a true "Lord of War" his name was Oliver North and him and Adnan Kashogi were two of the biggest arms dealers the world had ever seen. The Iran Contra affair now looked back as LESS than a decent footnote in history, was a rip in the curtain for America's true scope of their weapons sales from Vietnam, the Invasion of Afghanistan in the 80s by the Russians, the first Iraqi War, 9/11 and the "conflict" in Iraq, and now the Ukraine. So was Cage really acting? Or this is just the way America truly does business? Ethan Hawke said it the best "I'd tell you to go to hell, but your probably there already". After the 2 years of pandemic, the untold job losses, and government handouts, and now Ukraine. Are we ALL in hell?
Edit: As a small description of Lt. Col Oliver North, he was the middle man accused of selling weapons worldwide to America's "friends". Subsequently being the fall guy and just like Cage, he eventually walked.
@@slewone4905 I didn't say it was based on anybody, I said it was "heavily influenced". Meaning that there are stories from Gary Webb, Oliver North, and Adanan Khashogi that fundamentally make up Nicholas Cage's character. Nothing wrong with a writer drawing inspiration from real world characters. And the people I listed ARE real. Khashogi was an arms dealer, Oliver North was in the famous Iran Contra Scandal and the middleman for the US Government, and Gary Webb was a journalist and writer who did expose the CIA and other high ranking members of the US Government and showed the involvement of the US in the arms trade. In fact, it's well known that the biggest arms dealer is the US Government. Cage said that during his brief "detainment".
This movie actually predicted the future even more than you think. Viktor Bout was still at large when this came out in 2005, and wasn’t captured until 2008.
Imagine people like Ethan Hawkes character IRL - spending YEARS tracking him down - likely being underpaid given the nature of what he does.. you capture the guy - and then THE PRESIDENT with a smile on his face says “he’s free to go in exchange for a basketball player” I’d quit my job.. honestly idk how Biden and Kamala is smiling and acting as if we just brought home Edward Snowden
"My family has disowned me, My wife and son have left me, My brother is dead....Trust me: I understand the seriousness of my situation". Delivered the line like a boss.
Nah, this line is the shittiest in this entire scene. Why would he be so distressed if 30 seconds later he calmly explains step by step why he is to be released. Nonsense acting here - this line should be delivered relaxed and similing with some bitterness in it - only then it would be consistent with the reminder of the scene. But I don't blame you - you're delusional like many lunatics.
Yes, apparently, supplying the weapons for the killing of tens of thousands is on the same level as putting your own brother's life in jeopardy and him dying because of your career choice and your wife leaving you because you're a criminal. No,... no he doesn't understand, not even remotely.
@TheBlondie Depending on who the police officer is you wouldn't be able to sue and if you did you would be targeted after that for the rest of your life it's called gangstalking targeted in America just the facts 1 2 and 3 look it up.
@@coldshadow7880 This is due to the fact that this name is easily written and read by English-speaking viewers. For example, it will be much more difficult to read and pronounce correctly - Kuznetsov (smith)
@@octoman511 Last I checked he wasn't the one supplying FIM-92 Stinger missiles, M1 Abrams MBTs, LAV-25s, M4 carbines, F-16 Vipers and so on, to Ukraine. Oh, let's not forget the tens of billions in cash. How far in are we? $70 Billion? $75 Billion? You might wanna run those numbers for me. Oh, let's also not forget that it wasn't him who traded Viktor Bout, the real Lord of War, for what? A basketball player. Oh yeah. Because Trump is the real issue here. It's not like he got us involved in two wars in the span of just three years.
@@mikecumbo7531 that is 100 % correct. Always funny too see people thinking a president dictates the money or weapons going around ^^ This guy was a russian and a fun fact he got traded from jail 2022 for a lesbian nwa player. So he is free today and keeps his arms deals going.
What a brilliant ending to an already amazing movie. No happy ending, no gimmicks or explosions, no getting rid of the "bad guy", just pure, unfiltered, truth. Lord of War is probably one of the most underrated movies in the history of cinema.
@CHICAGO'S KKRAZIEST -FUCK ALL WHO OPPOSED ME. every grade school kid in the USA knows this from about grade 5???? this also had been true since 1820, 100 years ago. that's a century, btw. and every grade school kid knows that too, except perhaps in some areas "Chi-kago"???
@Adam Haskin Every day he sat in prison was a day he wasn't plying his gruesome trade around the world. How many lives will end by his merchandise now that he'd free?
@Texas Rebel 800 SAMs found their way into the hands of terrorists because of him. He was and is very good at what he does, one could even say the best. His notoriety earned him a movie, and the moniker "Merchant of Death". And he's free because the president wanted one person back from Russian imprisonment. That leverage is gone. It was thrown away, and now some kids in the Congo are going to be sent off with shiny new AKs to die with. Good trade.
@@jaffarebellion292 The MAGAKLAN isn't aware that other arms dealers instantly stepped in to take his place once the US took him out of the game. Do you guys even take a moment to think before parroting simple minded garbage like that? Holy shit, poochie, at least try to think before regurgitating what the extreme far right media puts on your plate. Just for fun. 😂
I love how when he says getting what you want is a tragedy because Jack gets what he wants (Yuri arrested) but soon learns that his bosses want this man selling guns. Amazing writing, directing, acting, and a gut-punching message.
@@friendlyplayer92 exactly as with all things you want. You are sad when you don't get it and when you do get it your still sad as you worry that you could lose it.
These are the operations you dint hear about cuz they dont have fancy bells and whistles. Moves like this is what kept us number amd why we will stay. We are smarter and use tactics if all sorts to help our cause The enemy of my.enemy is my friend... now the real evil is being the middle man... for the profit of two sides killing each other through you.
@@dominicviner6619 oldie but a goodie. Enemy of my enemy...I'd say all of man is greedy and self interested though. This is the fact if they are honest, myself included in one capacity or another.
People think it's just a movie, I lost track of the number of times I've seen this over the years in law enforcement. The best is when the actual victims themselves who you are trying to help tell you you're being too harsh and that the criminals are actually nice men and they are going back next week to give them the money they asked for. You really do give up.
But, in real life, that's not what happened. The real Lord of War, Victor Bout, that this is based on, is serving time in a US federal prison right now.
@@starguy2718 Eh, I'm fine with it. We needed to help our people. I would have preferred us blasting her out of there and getting the other guy too. Especially since it's hardly like the Russians care about laws or international agreements anyway, but American government SHOULD try to protect our people. What Biden did was *good* and you knuckleheads should start wrapping your heads around that.
@@starguy2718 MAGA infants don't get that other arms dealers stepped in to take the guys place once the US took him out of the game. Try to think every once in a while. Fox Noooze programs you children so very well, so very easily. 😂
@@starguy2718 he only had 7 years left to go his sentence genius. while orange man never once tried to get any american trapped in russia out during his term
The reason I love this scene so much is because Yuri only showed emotion when speaking of his family (parents, brother, wife and son), after that he reverted back to his usual self. It just goes to show the turbulence under his calm exterior.
Is that a reference to Ghost Rider, or a reference to possible meth usage? I feel the former is more likely, but considering his more questionable films, I don't think we can totally rule out the latter.
@@SRMal8723 Righhhhht... But i think the only group of people that actually get to say that are or, were... the slaves themselves. It's very very very discerning otherwise, no matter how good and pure your intentions are. This is not even a race thing. It's beyond.
4:38 I love Hawke’s body language during the entire scene, but this moment is amazing. Despite his fundamental beliefs of right and wrong he’s realizing Cage is being truthful and reality starts to sink in. And the last line truly demonstrates his pure conviction in ethics and morality: “I’d tell you to go to hell, but I think you are already there”. For him, there’s no greatest punishment for someone than having Cage’s character values and type of living.
He's got serious acting chops for sure. Utterly world class actor. It's just a lot of the times, he overestimates his own acting range and ends up making himself look stupid.
At some point he was in so much debt he took any acting job just to get by. I agree that he's an excellent actor, but he did take some terrible jobs as well.
Ethan Hawke wasn't too bad in this scene either. He successfully conveyed resolve (to throw Nick Cage's character into jail), together with a bit of doubt and faintheartedness (deep down being unsure whether he will actually be able to come out on top in this situation). Well acted in my opinion.
I view him kind of like Picasso. That he's demonstrably an excellent actor in the traditional sense means that a lot of the times when he doesn't seem to be a good actor, it's a creative decision. Maybe it's not a creative decision I'm on board for, but it has to be intentional
Great scene. I think people overestimates Yuri's detachment and Jack's idealism. The change in Jack's face is indeed one of defeat, but the entire end of the movie, before this scene where he finally got involved in a murder and the "never go to war with yourself" speech is a good rememberance of everything that Yuri lost. He's absolutely miserable, and he'll spend the rest of his life trying to forget every mistake that led him into losing his brother, his family and his peace. People say how he's rich and will find another trophy-wife, and while that might be true, you can see at his face when Jack tells him he's already in hell, that he doesn't know how to leave that hell anymore. He keeps working as a arms dealer because he can't do anything else, and since his career alienated everything he once held dear, he will probably become even more of a workaholic and probably go into more drinking-fueled meaningless sex and drug usage. Yet, none of this satisfies Jack, who wanted justice, not petty punishment. There is the carthasis of knowing that the perpetrator has indeed found punishment, but there's also the defeat of knowing your idealism doesn't work. I find it interesting: Jack is the one who starts with nothing worth of value against Yuri, but when Jack leaves that room, Yuri is the one who lost everything. And Yuri just tiredly explains it to Jack, because now that he was a direct victim of his own career, he just wants everything to be over with.
I do not think he is miserable at all, he enjoys what he is doing, he is good at what he is doing, of course, doing what he likes, demands sacrifice, if he truly was miserable, he could have have stopoped doing what he does, when the first tragedy hit, but he did not, he takes the sacrifices, they leave their marks, they hurt, sure, but in the end, they are not of value enough to him, to stop his greatest passion.
@@1Ashram I call bs, Yuris face after jack's "I think you're already in hell" sells the point Yuri has no peace but its fun to write our own ideas on how the characters feel.
'...losing his family...'?! The motherf**ker cheated on his wife and would've been fine with it as long as she never found out...but he's 'absolutely miserable' about losing his family?!! Joker?!
@@kamma44it's because 1. You don't understand men 2. You don't understand successful men with options. He's cheating has absolutely nothing to do with his wife. It's a physical moment thing. Nothing. Not.condoning it. However, it's a fact of life.
toph2828 Jack is the European Government all have to do is work both sides of the border. And keep them killing each other. By selling both sides bigger and more powerful weapons you profit and then you get the prize their body and soul
@@demettriousabbott4012 Absolutly! You know, money matters. Selling weapons makes money ........ and it secures jobs. Let me say ........ Germany first ;)
@@jonothandoeser If you look closely, there is a shadowy red-ish light behind Yuri glowing. Whilst there is a beam of white light shining on Jack Valentine. Yuri being portrayed as darkness and Jack as an agent of justice(an angel if you will). I don't think this effect of lighting with the room-combination, was a mere coincidence.
Jack's comeback of "I'd tell you to go to hell but I think your already there" is perfect. He knows yuri wont go to prison now but he also knows yuris life is ruined.
He's rich as all hell and protected by the U.S. government. He'll pay some token child support and still have megabux to land a younger and hotter trophy wife. That's what guys like this usually do anyway.
@@jackphillips3354 At that level, love rarely factors into it. It is simply a twist on the "world's oldest profession". Those models know they will be traded in for a younger one in 20 or so years, but they don't care because they know they and their children will be set for life. Just look at Trump. People bashed him for it, but it is typical among men with that level of wealth.
@@wamyx8Nz Very well said. People keep saying in the comments that Yuri's life was ruined but really the only real tragedy is brother dying and his parents disowning him. But he still has his health, age and megabucks to start another family...
@@mariolisa2832 He even said earlier in the movie while seducing his first wife that since lies and deception were where relationships usually wound up anyway, it was a logical place to start. I.e. he's a straightforward pragmatist to the point of being a sociopath.
Merchant of Death: This is what is going to happen. Someone who will outrank you will knock at the door. I am going to be released because someone will trade me for an LGBTQ American basketball player. Agent: hahha no way Knock Knock!
The same people crying about this (conservatives) are the same ones who would be crying that they didn't do enough to "save American lives" like that one old white guy who went to be a Russian propagandist and got thrown in a russian prison lol
I love the fact the movie doesn't arbitrarily make Hawke's character a bully or asshole, so many movies would ... he's solidly ethical if zealous agent and is only the antagonist because Yuri is such a crook ... you don't feel happy when he gets thwarted at the end, you feel sorry for him (at least I did).
@Matthew Shrubsole Just need to point out here there is no proof the United States Govt supported the IRA. So saying "America supported the troubles" isn't really entirely correct. What really happened is private Irish-American U.S citizens who were sympathetic to the cause sent weapons to the IRA en masse. Just need to point that out being that I'm someone who is a paddy bastard who had distant relatives in the IRA back in the day and is American aswell. The organization of Americans that supported the IRA was NORAID if you'd like to read further.
@Matthew Shrubsole Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night but I'm telling you the facts/evidence say you are incorrect. There has never been any evidence of the US govt supporting the IRA in any sense although there is a wealth of proof for a vast number of other groups. So no you can't really say that about anyone who is supply people with weapons because the people they've actually provided weapons to have been proven. The US really doesn't hide that shit that well. Some proven examples are the Contras, the Cuban revolutionaries in the Bay of Pigs, The Mujahdeen, and so on.. The IRA though? No proof of what you're saying buddy. I'm done arguing though, just needed to comment so that people can at least see there is no evidence to back what you're claiming. You're just being edgy saying "America even backs groups against their cousins the Brits!" even though in 60+ years there hasn't been a single shred of evidence to back what you're saying. And did you remove mention of the IRA from your original comment? Lmao
That's cool, fact is you still shouldn't claim shit without evidence otherwise it's just a conspiracy theory bud. Thanks for confirming you're being a crackpot, cya. You get a thumbs up for this single comment.
@Matthew Shrubsole this scene is not about money ruling. This scene is about the politics that surrounds arms supply. Yuri was a criminal but a smart criminal who was able to evade the law. Throughout history people like this have been used to handle government affairs without actually being officially hired by the government in the public eye. It's politics and how you stop threats from your enemies ever reaching you.
This scene is amazing, I like how Yuri is not gloating about it but rather explaining it like it's a tired old game that no matter what he or Jack does, it will always keep spinning round and round no matter what. Also like how he has no real animosity towards jack, he's just doing his job, he understands and even respects him, and at the same time you can tell he feels sorry for him, that he knows his intentions are good, but he doesn't realize truly how the world works.
This game is as old as governments. There is always groups that want weapons, people to supply them, and leaders who do not want those weapons connected to to them.
@I Coroa Can't have infinite growth on a finite planet. Since the industrial revolution our entire system has been predicated on exponential growth. Eventually that breaks down. Especially as all first world countries are in demographic decline and being invaded by fecund 3rd worlders. Once the people who manage and create the technology that has kept things moving are gone or overwhelmed, the party stops.
Well, say " thank you " to the Wokesters. If Brit had only followed the rules! She " forgot " where she was- and paid for her presumption and stupidity. This is not the time to be stupid- it will get you killed.
Literally... Look at the guns sent across the border during the Obama administration that elders used to kill a CBP agent... No one in jail. No accountability for shit...
The tories in the UK are doing it too. Selling guns and arms to Saudis and training the very terrorists who attack our country then ignore the results because it makes them money. Then they attack the other countries for oil and natural resources which all have ties into American gas and oil companies. Then they demonise the refugees who run from there own country over to the UK for sanctuary so dumb uneducated twats from council estates can blaim all there problems on immigrants causing even more divide and further away from the real reality that we are all being played. But usa and UK will continue to say they support the victims caught in conflict in the middle east when they are the ones providing the weapons all whilst taking oil diamonds etc etc. Fuck tories fuck Brussels fuck the eu and fuck oil companies.
@@eltoro747 Interesting, although not exactly a secret. I'm rewatching old NCIS episodes (NCIS is pretty mainstream) and they had two arms dealers in different times over the series who did similar things (La grenouis and Aga bayar)..
Brilliant acting by both actors. Hawke's change in expression from jubilation to defeat is just fantastic. Cage's calm, impassive delivery is no less outstanding. Truly a great scene.
He knows it straight away. At 4:37, the look in his eyes and on his face says that his entire worldview has been destroyed. You can literally see him go from idealistic hype earlier on in the scene as he's pacing watching Yuri read the paper to deep cynicism and even despair towards the end of the scene as the moral values that drove him have been shattered. A rare scene where both the protagonist and antagonist lose each in their own way, (Yuri personally/emotionally & Jake idealistically,) but the antagonist has to lay it out for the protagonist which is almost unique in a movie. He's almost sorrowful at having to explain the ''I'm not the true evil, it's your overall boss and the system you are naively trying to prop up without realising what it actually is''. That might be the biggest insult of all for Jake. The guy who he has been trying to take down for years doesn't even see him as a threat and is, in fact, pitying him for his highly unrealistic idealism. Nothing worse than finding out that what you have been dictating your life to is utterly pointless. Not only in action but egoistically as well. Yuri was never afraid of Jake once. That's really gotta sting Jake's ego.
I concur, except I see Yuri as the protagonist and Jake as the antagonist. Protagonist doesn't mean "the hero" but simply the Main character which it all revolves around.
Well said! I lost it when Yuri school's Jake at the end. You can't help but feel sorry for him after he spent the entire movie chasing Yuri and in the end, he learns everything he fought for was for nothing. No happy ending, just a big dose of truth. Brilliant!
This reminds me of one of the finest scenes from the Godfather: Michael: "I do what anyone else responsible for others do. Like a president or a senator." Kay: "You're so naïve Michael. Presidents and senators don't have men killed." Michael: "Oh. Now's who's being naïve, Kay ?"
but this was before he lost his confidence in interpol and prolly got demoted to cop, finding justice in punishing the guys who nobody cares about, so he can actually have a sense of doing his job.
pavle vivec but he ended up fucked up after Training Day, he developed a drug problem and they stuck him on a shit detail, they had him at that shithole Fort Apache in the Bronx, wasn't till he became the hero of that incident that he got clean and got his choice of assignments! But he got outsmarted here,so troubles always follow him.
One of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies. IMO Lord of War is one of the greatest movies made and while many hate him Nicholas Cage is great in this movie.
Cage gets a lot of praise for his acting in this movie and this scene in particular, and rightly so, but Ethan Hawke deserves a lot of credit in this scene just for conveying emotion with his body language and expression. At every different development you can feel where his character is just by how he carries himself. Everything from his frustration when Yuri ignores the newspaper story about him, to the the doubt starting to creep in during Yuri's speech, and finally how he's all but convinced that Yuri is right even before the knock on the door. Cage had a great speech in this scene and knocked it out of the park. Hawke didn't have a great speech and didn't even have more than a few seconds at a time to work with, and also knocked it out of the park.
The power of Yuri's dialogue comes from it's real-world implications; what happens here isn't just possible, it happens on a routine basis. When you go past a certain threshold in power, influence, or you're seen as necessary enough to the operations that keep the power structure in place, you're essentially protected in a hidden tier of the justice system that looks out for the power brokers, and in his own small way Yuri is a power broker in that he can make certain things happen that others can't. We've all seen people in high office get away with things that any of us would go to prison for life for, but because that sort of power makes you part of a club that protects its own, the worst they get is they have to resign or spend a year in Club Fed. There's a line Yuri gives shortly after this scene where he says that he's under no illusions, that them saving him today doesn't mean they'll need him tomorrow, and you have only to look at what happened to Epstein to see that while he got saved once, after he became too much of a problem, he had a little 'accident' in his cell. Yuri's insight here has such impact because it is the secret and never-spoken truth about how this world's power operates and controls the world, with the rest of us just ignorant pawns.
Yeah but it’s unrealistic though, a agent would never be seen displaying this much emotion in an interrogation, he’s already shown he isn’t in the drive seat by the way he’s behaving. Great acting and great for the movie but very unrealistic
Yeah, both actors performed extremely well in this scene. Could have had Jack verbally be dismayed, but his silence until he heard the knock on the door told the tale better than any words.
Right after the knock……..Hawkes character’s eyes, roll to the side of his face, as if ready to pop out……..without even having to twist and turn his head 💯💯💯
4:38 The look on Ethan Hawke's face after Yuri explains why he won't be arrested is sooo realistic The face of no hope He fully captured the feeling of doing all you can but can't succeed in that take, Followed that by the face of acceptance Such talent
Like Adam Sandler, both can actually be pretty decent to outstanding actor, but choose shit movies and roles, unlike many other A-list actors. Well Bruce Willis comes to my mind aswell, had crazy good roles in the 80es and 90es and then began to cashgrab every movie, no matter how bad.
PapaGeorg10: In this movie, he is portraying a Ukrainian who has been raised in America so of course he'd have no accent. Mila Kunis is a good example of this. Born in the Ukraine, but no discernible accent to indicate that because she was raised in America.
Have you seen the vid of Mila going after a Russian reporter during an interview in Russia for her movie with Justin Timberlake ? I think it is called Friends With Benefits. You can see that Timberlake had no idea she spoke Russian. and she is tearing that reporter a new asshole. It's classic.
"I would tell you to go to Hell, but I think you're already there." You can see that Jack's last shot really hits home, and it's what I remember most about this scene.
Jak busts Yuri. Yuri taunts Jak ... while basically goin 2 confession. Jak, shaken, reveals da harsh truth of Yuris recent existence. xlnt scene all round.
I found the line actually weak, after being shown the irrelavance of Jack's life and career. Jack clearly lost the battle and the war and he looks bitter about it. To reference Yuri's private debacles is a low blow.
@@GujjarAttack "low blow"? This life is a low blow! Jack figures and probably rightly: "You may've beat the rap, but you're still a creep in a sewer." Cripes, did you notice that hooker take $$ out of Yuri's wallet while still riding him? And Yuri knows that someday Uncle Sam might screw him over anyway someday.
@@1958Shemp How did Yuri and Jack meet? Purely on a professional basis (merchent vs. cop) where Yuri clearly has the more powerful positiion and is untouchable. Referencing somebodys private issues in that professional situation is a chlidish reply. What if Jack said: "You have an ugly car"? Yuri knows he is a bad person. Telling him about it is a waste of time.
Brian MadGil Well, why is he acting in Z-grade movies now? Seen "Left Behind" ? He must be getting pretty desperate to act in such fanatical Christian propaganda. Btw, his real name is Nicholas Coppola. Had he not been Francis Ford Coppola's nephew his acting career would never have taken off. Francis Ford Coppola has enough weight in Hollywood he cast his daughter in the Godfather Part III - which she almost singlehandedly ruined with her abysmal acting. How Sofia Coppola ever made a career as a director herself is another mystery but with "good connections" you can make a career. For Nicholas Cage that worked for little more than a decade and now the gig's up. Nepotism is a factor you shouldn't ignore in Hollywood.
Wez Marauder Dude buys houses like they're going out of season, gets super in debt, makes a billion terrible movies for a quick buck and the world loves him for it. Cage's jig having been up is a prediction we've seen year after year for more than a decade, and frankly it just doesn't hold water.
Wez Marauder I like a large amount of his movies, most actors have starred in "bad movies". But I can guarantee you there are people who like those movies we would call bad... :P
***** Exactly. It reminds me of that bit from "Pirates of the Caribbean": "You are without a doubt the worst pirate I have ever heard of." "Ah, but you have heard of me." Fact is: People may give Nicolas Cage shit for all the "shitty" movies he's done, but if he were just some regular schnook, like a carpenter or bricklayer, and he was takin' every job he could for the money, nobody would give two shits.
@@coolguy02536 so ya think fox is a reliable source of information because it leans to the right rather than left ? it's the same propoganda machine just made by neocons for naive conservatives
Go find a Katy Perry video to post this on. You'd think this dumb comment would have died out by now. Not funny, not original, nobody actually cares when they ask. Just a lazy like grab.
Saccharin3D Exactly. Ethan Hawke is one of the most criminally underrated talents of Hollywood. If I was a up and coming Indie flick director, I'd be begging Ethan to work with me.
Richard_Sledge his character is not stupid and idealist maybe who believes in right and wrong just caught in the situation where that's is not so easy to tell. I have much sympathy for his character because you can respect him and his mission just in this situation his higher ups dont care.
Always loved this scene, not because Cage gets away with murder - so to speak - but because like he says, governments need people like him a sad truth that will never change
*THE INEVITABLE CORRUPTION OF GOVERNMENT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE SOCRATIC ERA OF ANCIENT GREECE* An ancient greek philosopher called Thrachymachus famously won a debate with Socrates on the nature of Govt, or the most virtuous form / behaviour of government. Plato recounts the debate in Republic (from memory) - it's worth reading, because it demonstrates that (a) the litany of endemic problems with politics, bureaucracy, & government that plague us now, have plagued us for millenia, (b) human nature doesn't change, and (c) *_all forms of government inevitably become corrupt._* *CRITICAL CAUSAL FACTORS (PSYCHOPATHY; POLITICAL PONEROLOGY) ONLY A FEW DECADES OLD* One critical advantage we have today, is our slowly developing understanding, starting only a few decades ago, of critical aspects about human nature & nature of evil previously unknown. All academic, scientific, artistic, literary, political, philosophical , psychological (etc) investigation, analysis, and commentary on the nature of evil, the scourge of government, corrupt / illegitimate political idealogy (slavery, feudalism, fascism, communism, tyrannic despotism / totalitarian dictatorship, colonialism, noble / aristocratic / royal political power & rule), supernatural delusion / manipulation / pathology etc...lacked, until the 1960s / 70s on, understanding of the topics below: *Psychopathy* Wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy; Richard Hare's 'Without Conscience' is a seminal mainstream work *Political Ponerology / Pathocracy* www.ponerology.com/evil_2b.html pathocracy.wordpress.com/definition/ *DEMOCIDE* Term coined by Nobel Peace Prize nominated political science Professor R.J. Rummel *Democide:* _The murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder._ Democide is / was the central research topic of Rummel's career. He came to a figure (derived from a relatively broad range) of 262,000,000 for 20th Century democide. _"This democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century." In summary: The idea that government corruption is a permanent fact of life is an unproven assertion (claim, statement) based on ignorance, propaganda, misinformation, disinformation, capitulation, and thousands of years of systematized manipulation, control, tyrann, oppression. If you're going to promote other people's ideas, I'd recommend getting the first clue about how the world works first ;) I've done my best to present an accurate summary of why the world is the way it is, rather than simply taking up a contrary view and debating for points. Ultimately however, I'd be lying by omission if I failed to expression my disgust & unequivocal opposition against willing self-enforcement and support for the primitive brutality that's made life an unfathomable nightmare for so many for so long. Fuck war, fuck royalty / aristocracy, fuck religion, fuck the military, fuck power crazies & control freaks, fuck the government, fuck the corporatocracy, pathocracy, technocracy, FUCK DEMOCRACY, fuck the so-called media, fuck the power elite, and most of all FUCK THE CRETINOUS MASSES without whom the above wouldn't be possible. PS: Go tits & pussy! ;)
@F.u.c.k Go.ogl.e Actually I'd say it began probably at the very beginning it's the laws of probability as soon as there was power for someone to abuse it was inevitable somebody eventually would abuse it.
it's pretty mediocre, i just watched it for the first time. jared leto's acting is over the top and ethan hawke is not memorable. nicolas cage is the only reason people watch this movie and he gives a brad pitt in seven years in tibet performance
@@MrYfrank14 not necessarily. At the time he's the most well known and trusted arms dealer by most. Doing what he does you really have to build some sort of relationship with your clients. To just "Replace" wouldn't always be the best option.
A dishonorably discharged marine (for stealing from the Marines) who will probably face espionage charges when he comes back to the US? That hero? LOL.
@@MrScarfaceX yea, a dishonored Wnba player who took drugs into a hostile country who did nothing but talk shit about America for years until she realized how the rest of the world would treat her.
It's sad how Yuri was explaining to Jack what's gonna happen, you can see from Jack's expression that deep down he knows Yuri's right. He's not stupid. He knows our government frequently works against him. He still had hope, but it's shattered the moment the door was knocked.
I would ask my bosses why did you have me chase this guy for so long if you were just gonna let him loose anyway. I feel sorry for Jack, they were wasting his time.
@@mbucd Plausible deniability. When anyone comes snooping around, the U.S. govt can just point to the hapless Jack and say "See? We tried. Couldn't have been us." Yuri may be in hell, but Jack is right there with him.
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Jokes on you, coppers, I happen to have a captive lesbian basketball player up my sleeve. The ultimate Uno Reverse card.
Hahahaha Hahahaha 😆
Afghanistani people falling off giant US aircraft A death merchant in exchange for law breaking basketball player
Best prisoner trade in human history.
A trannie
oof 💀💀💀
Let's not forget that the movie ends with "the five largest arms producers in the world are also the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council."
Then they cut that line out of the film.
Of course they did, truth is truth isn't it? This movie was heavily influenced by a true "Lord of War" his name was Oliver North and him and Adnan Kashogi were two of the biggest arms dealers the world had ever seen.
The Iran Contra affair now looked back as LESS than a decent footnote in history, was a rip in the curtain for America's true scope of their weapons sales from Vietnam, the Invasion of Afghanistan in the 80s by the Russians, the first Iraqi War, 9/11 and the "conflict" in Iraq, and now the Ukraine.
So was Cage really acting? Or this is just the way America truly does business? Ethan Hawke said it the best "I'd tell you to go to hell, but your probably there already".
After the 2 years of pandemic, the untold job losses, and government handouts, and now Ukraine. Are we ALL in hell?
Edit: As a small description of Lt. Col Oliver North, he was the middle man accused of selling weapons worldwide to America's "friends". Subsequently being the fall guy and just like Cage, he eventually walked.
@@deathstrike thats not who it was based on.
@@slewone4905 I didn't say it was based on anybody, I said it was "heavily influenced". Meaning that there are stories from Gary Webb, Oliver North, and Adanan Khashogi that fundamentally make up Nicholas Cage's character. Nothing wrong with a writer drawing inspiration from real world characters. And the people I listed ARE real. Khashogi was an arms dealer, Oliver North was in the famous Iran Contra Scandal and the middleman for the US Government, and Gary Webb was a journalist and writer who did expose the CIA and other high ranking members of the US Government and showed the involvement of the US in the arms trade. In fact, it's well known that the biggest arms dealer is the US Government. Cage said that during his brief "detainment".
It took a few years longer than portrayed, but this scene just came true.
Damn it sure did.
Did it ever!!!!!!!
This movie actually predicted the future even more than you think. Viktor Bout was still at large when this came out in 2005, and wasn’t captured until 2008.
Imagine people like Ethan Hawkes character IRL - spending YEARS tracking him down - likely being underpaid given the nature of what he does.. you capture the guy - and then THE PRESIDENT with a smile on his face says “he’s free to go in exchange for a basketball player” I’d quit my job.. honestly idk how Biden and Kamala is smiling and acting as if we just brought home Edward Snowden
Lmfao
"My family has disowned me, My wife and son have left me, My brother is dead....Trust me: I understand the seriousness of my situation". Delivered the line like a boss.
And you can hear the tremble in his voice
Jack's final words to him this scene though... cut Yuri to the quick.
Nah, this line is the shittiest in this entire scene. Why would he be so distressed if 30 seconds later he calmly explains step by step why he is to be released. Nonsense acting here - this line should be delivered relaxed and similing with some bitterness in it - only then it would be consistent with the reminder of the scene. But I don't blame you - you're delusional like many lunatics.
Yes, apparently, supplying the weapons for the killing of tens of thousands is on the same level as putting your own brother's life in jeopardy and him dying because of your career choice and your wife leaving you because you're a criminal. No,... no he doesn't understand, not even remotely.
So the millions of people killed by the weapons he sold didn’t do it?
"The reason I'll be released is the same reason you think I'll be convicted"
Enjoy The Decline. Such a good contrasting sentence
Exactly!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@TheBlondie Cool story bro, no one fucking cares, and it didn't happen
@@m2heavyindustries378 how the hell do you know do you know him or are you omniscient oh i get it you are just dumb.
@TheBlondie Depending on who the police officer is you wouldn't be able to sue and if you did you would be targeted after that for the rest of your life it's called gangstalking targeted in America just the facts 1 2 and 3 look it up.
"Mr. Orlov, I'm with Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms."
"Let me guess: this isn't about the alcohol or the tobacco."
I love this movie.
Funny how those 3 are lumped together
@@julioibarra7156 It wasn't an "accident"...They could care less about the alcohol/tobacco; They just needed a way around the constitution...
Why so many movies the Russian's name is mostly always Orlov. Smth they r trying to tell us? 🤔😅
@@coldshadow7880 This is due to the fact that this name is easily written and read by English-speaking viewers. For example, it will be much more difficult to read and pronounce correctly - Kuznetsov (smith)
@@user-in7ei7de9l ic 🤔, still funny nonetheless 😅
3:41 "But in the end, I will be released." And so he was.
10 years older 😂😂😂
And for a WNBA player which makes it worse...
your boss is the biggest arms dealer, and he needs people like me.
I’m here because of you. Thanks!
no wonder trumpy is running again
@@octoman511 Last I checked he wasn't the one supplying FIM-92 Stinger missiles, M1 Abrams MBTs, LAV-25s, M4 carbines, F-16 Vipers and so on, to Ukraine. Oh, let's not forget the tens of billions in cash. How far in are we? $70 Billion? $75 Billion? You might wanna run those numbers for me.
Oh, let's also not forget that it wasn't him who traded Viktor Bout, the real Lord of War, for what? A basketball player. Oh yeah. Because Trump is the real issue here. It's not like he got us involved in two wars in the span of just three years.
@@octoman511it occurs no matter who is president.
@@mikecumbo7531 that is 100 % correct. Always funny too see people thinking a president dictates the money or weapons going around ^^ This guy was a russian and a fun fact he got traded from jail 2022 for a lesbian nwa player. So he is free today and keeps his arms deals going.
What a brilliant ending to an already amazing movie. No happy ending, no gimmicks or explosions, no getting rid of the "bad guy", just pure, unfiltered, truth. Lord of War is probably one of the most underrated movies in the history of cinema.
One of my favorites. It just works on all levels.
Most underrated movie in the history of cinema? LOL. You need to watch more movies idiot.
@@TheMalf1978 You're getting antsy over a movie comment? Sounds like someone is a few hugs short of shooting a place up. I'll let it slide.
@@TheMalf1978 Damn Malf got his panties in a twist LOL
@@georgeboole3836 lol I can understand if it was a sensitive topic but over a movie comment? Really?
„...your boss - the president of the United States - who ships more merchandise in a DAY than I do in a YEAR.....“ - best line of the movie.
Of course he does, Yuri does it all himself. He needs to learn to delegate! That's the way to grow your business...
Us, Russia, france, and China are I think the still the top arms dealers
@@Yutter89 US, Russia, China, France, uk. the 5 biggest arms dealers and the 5 permenant members of the UN security council.
@@Yutter89 add England. the five permanent members of the UN "Security" Council.
@CHICAGO'S KKRAZIEST -FUCK ALL WHO OPPOSED ME. every grade school kid in the USA knows this from about grade 5???? this also had been true since 1820, 100 years ago. that's a century, btw. and every grade school kid knows that too, except perhaps in some areas "Chi-kago"???
As of today the “Merchant of death” got away with it.
@Adam Haskin Every day he sat in prison was a day he wasn't plying his gruesome trade around the world. How many lives will end by his merchandise now that he'd free?
@@jaffarebellion292 There's a thousand people out there who can take his place at any time, and did. Including members of the US government.
@Texas Rebel 800 SAMs found their way into the hands of terrorists because of him. He was and is very good at what he does, one could even say the best. His notoriety earned him a movie, and the moniker "Merchant of Death". And he's free because the president wanted one person back from Russian imprisonment. That leverage is gone. It was thrown away, and now some kids in the Congo are going to be sent off with shiny new AKs to die with. Good trade.
@@jaffarebellion292 the government is the biggest arms dealer
@@jaffarebellion292 The MAGAKLAN isn't aware that other arms dealers instantly stepped in to take his place once the US took him out of the game. Do you guys even take a moment to think before parroting simple minded garbage like that? Holy shit, poochie, at least try to think before regurgitating what the extreme far right media puts on your plate. Just for fun. 😂
I love how when he says getting what you want is a tragedy because Jack gets what he wants (Yuri arrested) but soon learns that his bosses want this man selling guns. Amazing writing, directing, acting, and a gut-punching message.
Yea getting what you want can be a tragedy because you can then lose it. And losing something hurts more
Now imagine how the real agents feel knowing he got released solely for a barely relevant WNBA basketball player. lol
@@friendlyplayer92 exactly as with all things you want. You are sad when you don't get it and when you do get it your still sad as you worry that you could lose it.
Yup USA is the #1 Warlord and Armsdealer in the world. Whether the American people wanted it or not.. it just had great propaganda for a long time
@@gameragodzilla God bless the Biden administration
"Knock knock-knock"
That moment you know that all the good you did was irrelevant
These are the operations you dint hear about cuz they dont have fancy bells and whistles.
Moves like this is what kept us number amd why we will stay. We are smarter and use tactics if all sorts to help our cause
The enemy of my.enemy is my friend... now the real evil is being the middle man... for the profit of two sides killing each other through you.
@@dominicviner6619 oldie but a goodie. Enemy of my enemy...I'd say all of man is greedy and self interested though. This is the fact if they are honest, myself included in one capacity or another.
he might be able to take him down for good if he is able to arrest him a few more times.
People think it's just a movie, I lost track of the number of times I've seen this over the years in law enforcement. The best is when the actual victims themselves who you are trying to help tell you you're being too harsh and that the criminals are actually nice men and they are going back next week to give them the money they asked for. You really do give up.
But, in real life, that's not what happened. The real Lord of War, Victor Bout, that this is based on, is serving time in a US federal prison right now.
That interrogation room is bigger than my first appartement.
That interrogation room is bigger than my current apartment.
@@macman975 yall living that luxurious life...i live in a cardboard box outside mcdonalds with free wifi
@@viivcreations9161 made me fucking laugh more than it should. fucking hell hahahah
@@viivcreations9161 You have a box? All to yourself? Whoa, a man of wealth. I have to share mine.
It's bigger than my entire life.
Who else coming back in December 2022 to congratulate our boy on his freedom
Thanks to Creepy Joe.
@@starguy2718 Eh, I'm fine with it. We needed to help our people.
I would have preferred us blasting her out of there and getting the other guy too. Especially since it's hardly like the Russians care about laws or international agreements anyway, but American government SHOULD try to protect our people. What Biden did was *good* and you knuckleheads should start wrapping your heads around that.
@@starguy2718 MAGA infants don't get that other arms dealers stepped in to take the guys place once the US took him out of the game. Try to think every once in a while. Fox Noooze programs you children so very well, so very easily. 😂
@@starguy2718 he only had 7 years left to go his sentence genius. while orange man never once tried to get any american trapped in russia out during his term
@@octoman511 is Trump in the room with us right now? Show us on the doll where Trump touched you.
The reason I love this scene so much is because Yuri only showed emotion when speaking of his family (parents, brother, wife and son), after that he reverted back to his usual self. It just goes to show the turbulence under his calm exterior.
Indeed, blood is thicker than water, there's his family and the rest is just business.
He didn't seem all that emotional to me, more like he had accepted these losses and moved on already.
Too bad Cage can't be like this in all his movies, but it's hard to act when your skull's on fire.
Lol 😆💀🔥
Lol... It seems Cage is slowly coming back. He was absolutely brilliant in "Pig"
Is that a reference to Ghost Rider, or a reference to possible meth usage? I feel the former is more likely, but considering his more questionable films, I don't think we can totally rule out the latter.
Or covered in bees.
What you talking about all his roles good to there character
"You call me evil but unfortunately for you I'm a necessary evil"
Love this line
Bane took that line
Slavery was also called a necessary evil
@@hahardridge Its all about perspective. Some of the biggest wonders and achievements in the world have been done with slave labor.
@@hahardridge before the industrial revolution it might have been, afterwards? A hinderence.
@@SRMal8723 Righhhhht... But i think the only group of people that actually get to say that are or, were... the slaves themselves. It's very very very discerning otherwise, no matter how good and pure your intentions are. This is not even a race thing. It's beyond.
Lord of war 2 in a few years once viktor does some wild shit again lmao
Viktor is off to a fast start he became a Russian politician within 5 days of being released
4:38 I love Hawke’s body language during the entire scene, but this moment is amazing. Despite his fundamental beliefs of right and wrong he’s realizing Cage is being truthful and reality starts to sink in.
And the last line truly demonstrates his pure conviction in ethics and morality: “I’d tell you to go to hell, but I think you are already there”.
For him, there’s no greatest punishment for someone than having Cage’s character values and type of living.
Caage didn't seem that depressed to me. I don't think he was in hell at that stage anyway.
nic cage is either the best or the worst actor in the movie he is in...and in this one he was the best
He's got serious acting chops for sure. Utterly world class actor. It's just a lot of the times, he overestimates his own acting range and ends up making himself look stupid.
At some point he was in so much debt he took any acting job just to get by. I agree that he's an excellent actor, but he did take some terrible jobs as well.
I think this was his best movie.
All in the script
Ethan Hawke wasn't too bad in this scene either. He successfully conveyed resolve (to throw Nick Cage's character into jail), together with a bit of doubt and faintheartedness (deep down being unsure whether he will actually be able to come out on top in this situation). Well acted in my opinion.
this movie is proof that if Nick cage really tries, he's one of the best actors in the industry
He once was.
Probably one of the hardest working man in industry. Guy does so many movies in a year but we just don’t hear about them.
I view him kind of like Picasso. That he's demonstrably an excellent actor in the traditional sense means that a lot of the times when he doesn't seem to be a good actor, it's a creative decision.
Maybe it's not a creative decision I'm on board for, but it has to be intentional
@@alexanderward5286 Reportedly, he had some money troubles around the Financial Crisis.
The IRS hit him for 30 million vice vi the new Stephen seagull 🙄🙄
“You’re pure evil”
“I’m necessary evil”
(Muffled noises)
There is no such thing as necessary evil.
Great scene.
I think people overestimates Yuri's detachment and Jack's idealism. The change in Jack's face is indeed one of defeat, but the entire end of the movie, before this scene where he finally got involved in a murder and the "never go to war with yourself" speech is a good rememberance of everything that Yuri lost.
He's absolutely miserable, and he'll spend the rest of his life trying to forget every mistake that led him into losing his brother, his family and his peace. People say how he's rich and will find another trophy-wife, and while that might be true, you can see at his face when Jack tells him he's already in hell, that he doesn't know how to leave that hell anymore. He keeps working as a arms dealer because he can't do anything else, and since his career alienated everything he once held dear, he will probably become even more of a workaholic and probably go into more drinking-fueled meaningless sex and drug usage.
Yet, none of this satisfies Jack, who wanted justice, not petty punishment. There is the carthasis of knowing that the perpetrator has indeed found punishment, but there's also the defeat of knowing your idealism doesn't work.
I find it interesting: Jack is the one who starts with nothing worth of value against Yuri, but when Jack leaves that room, Yuri is the one who lost everything. And Yuri just tiredly explains it to Jack, because now that he was a direct victim of his own career, he just wants everything to be over with.
I do not think he is miserable at all, he enjoys what he is doing, he is good at what he is doing, of course, doing what he likes, demands sacrifice, if he truly was miserable, he could have have stopoped doing what he does, when the first tragedy hit, but he did not, he takes the sacrifices, they leave their marks, they hurt, sure, but in the end, they are not of value enough to him, to stop his greatest passion.
@@1Ashram I call bs, Yuris face after jack's "I think you're already in hell" sells the point Yuri has no peace but its fun to write our own ideas on how the characters feel.
'...losing his family...'?!
The motherf**ker cheated on his wife and would've been fine with it as long as she never found out...but he's 'absolutely miserable' about losing his family?!!
Joker?!
@@1Ashram Sometimes you are so deep there is no way out.
@@kamma44it's because
1. You don't understand men
2. You don't understand successful men with options.
He's cheating has absolutely nothing to do with his wife. It's a physical moment thing. Nothing.
Not.condoning it. However, it's a fact of life.
'I like you Jack... Well, maybe not...'
"I would tell you to go to hell.But I think you already there"
toph2828 Jack is the European Government all have to do is work both sides of the border. And keep them killing each other. By selling both sides bigger and more powerful weapons you profit and then you get the prize their body and soul
@@demettriousabbott4012 Absolutly! You know, money matters. Selling weapons makes money ........ and it secures jobs. Let me say ........ Germany first ;)
Why does this interrogation room look like a bar or a night club? Why would it look like that?
@@jonothandoeser If you look closely, there is a shadowy red-ish light behind Yuri glowing. Whilst there is a beam of white light shining on Jack Valentine. Yuri being portrayed as darkness and Jack as an agent of justice(an angel if you will). I don't think this effect of lighting with the room-combination, was a mere coincidence.
Jack's comeback of "I'd tell you to go to hell but I think your already there" is perfect. He knows yuri wont go to prison now but he also knows yuris life is ruined.
He's rich as all hell and protected by the U.S. government. He'll pay some token child support and still have megabux to land a younger and hotter trophy wife.
That's what guys like this usually do anyway.
@@wamyx8Nz i wonder if he ever really even loved the one he already had.
@@jackphillips3354 At that level, love rarely factors into it. It is simply a twist on the "world's oldest profession". Those models know they will be traded in for a younger one in 20 or so years, but they don't care because they know they and their children will be set for life.
Just look at Trump. People bashed him for it, but it is typical among men with that level of wealth.
@@wamyx8Nz Very well said. People keep saying in the comments that Yuri's life was ruined but really the only real tragedy is brother dying and his parents disowning him. But he still has his health, age and megabucks to start another family...
@@mariolisa2832 He even said earlier in the movie while seducing his first wife that since lies and deception were where relationships usually wound up anyway, it was a logical place to start. I.e. he's a straightforward pragmatist to the point of being a sociopath.
Merchant of Death: This is what is going to happen. Someone who will outrank you will knock at the door. I am going to be released because someone will trade me for an LGBTQ American basketball player.
Agent: hahha no way
Knock Knock!
knock knock nyuggahh
The same people crying about this (conservatives) are the same ones who would be crying that they didn't do enough to "save American lives" like that one old white guy who went to be a Russian propagandist and got thrown in a russian prison lol
aged like fine wine
I love the fact the movie doesn't arbitrarily make Hawke's character a bully or asshole, so many movies would ... he's solidly ethical if zealous agent and is only the antagonist because Yuri is such a crook ... you don't feel happy when he gets thwarted at the end, you feel sorry for him (at least I did).
@Matthew Shrubsole Just need to point out here there is no proof the United States Govt supported the IRA. So saying "America supported the troubles" isn't really entirely correct. What really happened is private Irish-American U.S citizens who were sympathetic to the cause sent weapons to the IRA en masse. Just need to point that out being that I'm someone who is a paddy bastard who had distant relatives in the IRA back in the day and is American aswell. The organization of Americans that supported the IRA was NORAID if you'd like to read further.
@Matthew Shrubsole Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night but I'm telling you the facts/evidence say you are incorrect. There has never been any evidence of the US govt supporting the IRA in any sense although there is a wealth of proof for a vast number of other groups. So no you can't really say that about anyone who is supply people with weapons because the people they've actually provided weapons to have been proven. The US really doesn't hide that shit that well. Some proven examples are the Contras, the Cuban revolutionaries in the Bay of Pigs, The Mujahdeen, and so on.. The IRA though? No proof of what you're saying buddy. I'm done arguing though, just needed to comment so that people can at least see there is no evidence to back what you're claiming. You're just being edgy saying "America even backs groups against their cousins the Brits!" even though in 60+ years there hasn't been a single shred of evidence to back what you're saying. And did you remove mention of the IRA from your original comment? Lmao
That's cool, fact is you still shouldn't claim shit without evidence otherwise it's just a conspiracy theory bud. Thanks for confirming you're being a crackpot, cya. You get a thumbs up for this single comment.
@Matthew Shrubsole this scene is not about money ruling. This scene is about the politics that surrounds arms supply. Yuri was a criminal but a smart criminal who was able to evade the law. Throughout history people like this have been used to handle government affairs without actually being officially hired by the government in the public eye. It's politics and how you stop threats from your enemies ever reaching you.
jonesey251 You do, and the reason is all laid out here. He’s a good, B&W person, living in a very murky world of shades of grey.
This scene is amazing, I like how Yuri is not gloating about it but rather explaining it like it's a tired old game that no matter what he or Jack does, it will always keep spinning round and round no matter what. Also like how he has no real animosity towards jack, he's just doing his job, he understands and even respects him, and at the same time you can tell he feels sorry for him, that he knows his intentions are good, but he doesn't realize truly how the world works.
This game is as old as governments. There is always groups that want weapons, people to supply them, and leaders who do not want those weapons connected to to them.
@I Coroa Can't have infinite growth on a finite planet. Since the industrial revolution our entire system has been predicated on exponential growth. Eventually that breaks down. Especially as all first world countries are in demographic decline and being invaded by fecund 3rd worlders. Once the people who manage and create the technology that has kept things moving are gone or overwhelmed, the party stops.
and now you know- because you got the info straight from Hollywood.
Too much television watching got Jack chasing dreams
If Yuri wasn't a psychopath he would have broken down already.
This aged a little too well.
Well, say " thank you " to the Wokesters. If Brit had only followed the rules! She " forgot " where she was- and paid for her presumption and stupidity. This is not the time to be stupid- it will get you killed.
Who's here after the knock on the door?😅😅😅
Love when hollywood dangles the truth in our faces. And we brush it off as good script writing haha
Literally... Look at the guns sent across the border during the Obama administration that elders used to kill a CBP agent... No one in jail. No accountability for shit...
The tories in the UK are doing it too. Selling guns and arms to Saudis and training the very terrorists who attack our country then ignore the results because it makes them money. Then they attack the other countries for oil and natural resources which all have ties into American gas and oil companies. Then they demonise the refugees who run from there own country over to the UK for sanctuary so dumb uneducated twats from council estates can blaim all there problems on immigrants causing even more divide and further away from the real reality that we are all being played. But usa and UK will continue to say they support the victims caught in conflict in the middle east when they are the ones providing the weapons all whilst taking oil diamonds etc etc. Fuck tories fuck Brussels fuck the eu and fuck oil companies.
t5498tu Do you understand that reality I much more complex than this movie? 🐧
You learn from Hollywood because you don’t read real books. 🐧
This is an indipendent movie and not a Hollywood one. They had a really hard time getting the money and no major studio was willing to back them up.
@@eltoro747 Interesting, although not exactly a secret. I'm rewatching old NCIS episodes (NCIS is pretty mainstream) and they had two arms dealers in different times over the series who did similar things (La grenouis and Aga bayar)..
"I like you Jack...well maybe not...I understand you"?
---love that!
Lord of War is free, fiction has become reality
well he only had 7 years left to go his sentence
@@octoman511 only
bogus story, sorry.
Yea of course it's true 80s Iran contra Ronald Reagan
@@CremeDeLaMeme. what?
Wow he was actually right. Can't wait for Lord of War 2.
VICTOR BOUT STRIKES BACK? 🤣
Lord of War 2: They traded me a for a basketball player...man, these guys are shit traders!
Brilliant acting by both actors. Hawke's change in expression from jubilation to defeat is just fantastic. Cage's calm, impassive delivery is no less outstanding. Truly a great scene.
Love the description!
There was some satisfaction in his defeat though that he helped ruin the other guys life.
@@shschesschamp We ruin our own lives, others just show us how bad we messed up.
@@realistic.optimist In Valentines case though he had an influence in Yuris family to leave him.
He knows it straight away. At 4:37, the look in his eyes and on his face says that his entire worldview has been destroyed. You can literally see him go from idealistic hype earlier on in the scene as he's pacing watching Yuri read the paper to deep cynicism and even despair towards the end of the scene as the moral values that drove him have been shattered.
A rare scene where both the protagonist and antagonist lose each in their own way, (Yuri personally/emotionally & Jake idealistically,) but the antagonist has to lay it out for the protagonist which is almost unique in a movie. He's almost sorrowful at having to explain the ''I'm not the true evil, it's your overall boss and the system you are naively trying to prop up without realising what it actually is''. That might be the biggest insult of all for Jake. The guy who he has been trying to take down for years doesn't even see him as a threat and is, in fact, pitying him for his highly unrealistic idealism. Nothing worse than finding out that what you have been dictating your life to is utterly pointless. Not only in action but egoistically as well. Yuri was never afraid of Jake once. That's really gotta sting Jake's ego.
I concur, except I see Yuri as the protagonist and Jake as the antagonist. Protagonist doesn't mean "the hero" but simply the Main character which it all revolves around.
Well said! I lost it when Yuri school's Jake at the end. You can't help but feel sorry for him after he spent the entire movie chasing Yuri and in the end, he learns everything he fought for was for nothing. No happy ending, just a big dose of truth. Brilliant!
Absolutely. Look at those eyes he portrayed. Amazing
His name is Jack not Jake.
God damn right, word by word.
PS: His name is Jack here, Jake is in Training Day (another awesome movie)
Who's here after Yuri Is released now for the WNBA player?? He wins again.
Who would win,
Ethan Hawkes’ relentless efforts towards justice
Or
Some stupid woman smoking weed
Man, I just came here from a comment section on CNN and they would have ripped you apart for this comment. Lol
@@FluffyBunny9002
Ask them if they're ok with Putin getting a new source of weapons for free, watch the cognitive dissonance kick in.
@@dagdamor1 oh, I have, lol. It's exactly as you said. These people are on a whole new level of brainwashed I could have never anticipated.
This reminds me of one of the finest scenes from the Godfather:
Michael: "I do what anyone else responsible for others do. Like a president or a senator."
Kay: "You're so naïve Michael. Presidents and senators don't have men killed."
Michael: "Oh. Now's who's being naïve, Kay ?"
American Rebel79 I mean she was a blonde 👱♀️
Wasn't he talking about his Father not himself during that conversation?
There’s no character named Kate
@@plzburnme3809 unless Kay was a nickname for Kate?
Always bugged me with K calling him naive. It's like, even back then there had to be some cynicism regarding powerful men. Just a stupid line really.
you'd think Ethan Hawke would learn how things work after his training day lol :D
pavle vivec
I laughed hard.
but this was before he lost his confidence in interpol and prolly got demoted to cop, finding justice in punishing the guys who nobody cares about, so he can actually have a sense of doing his job.
pavle vivec but he ended up fucked up after Training Day, he developed a drug problem and they stuck him on a shit detail, they had him at that shithole Fort Apache in the Bronx, wasn't till he became the hero of that incident that he got clean and got his choice of assignments! But he got outsmarted here,so troubles always follow him.
It seems like the bathtub scene with cholo didnt teach him that at the end of the day, its just business...
pavle vivec he definitely learned in Brooklyn's finest...
And in the end, he got away with it......
Well the lord of war was set free irl today
This is my favorite Nicholas Cage movie.
CloveRoast personally, it's my 2nd favorite behind Leaving Las Vegas. It is a masterpiece though, on that we can agree. :)
***** I've heard both great and terrible things about 8mm. You're sayin' I should check it out?
+CloveRoast This one is great. I also really liked Matchstick Men.
Best one is of course The Wicker Man. Bear punch and BEEEEEEEES
I prefer National Treasure
One of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies. IMO Lord of War is one of the greatest movies made and while many hate him Nicholas Cage is great in this movie.
I most certainly don't,and think he did semi to very well in all his films'.
Nicholas Cage performs a masterpiece on this scene. His dialog, tone ,and facial expression were flawless. The delivery of his words perfect.
This aged well. Ending turned out to be reality for Victor Boot.
Evil prevails.
@@jaffarebellion292 Nah. this guy is the good guy
@@joshuaberkau Anyone who knowingly supplies tyrants is an enemy of mine.
@@jaffarebellion292 The first one in your list should be the US government.
@Jaqen H'ghar Every government is evil. Some are more evil than others, but there are no exceptions.
the conversation in this movie is genius.
Also very true
"I would tell you to goto hell but I think you're already there"
😇 FUN FACT it's because they actually had it.. and all movies are a product of fact not fiction ...
lets try it again :) (Y) (Y) (THE MAJOR CHILD)
and it's 100% real
That look on Jack's face when he knows Yuri is dead right.
+jimmykicker7775 And the worst part of the whole thing....we know he's right too. The future is not what we thought it would be, neh?
indeed
jimmykicker7775 A real training day or moment for him.
I would have asked Yuri: "considering all that's happened to you, is it worth it?"
@@Satai80 - He would have said yes.
The prisoner swap brought me here…
After the IRL news this week... Lord of War part 2, might be coming in a few years?
".. and while the biggest arms dealer in the world is your boss .."
Cage gets a lot of praise for his acting in this movie and this scene in particular, and rightly so, but Ethan Hawke deserves a lot of credit in this scene just for conveying emotion with his body language and expression. At every different development you can feel where his character is just by how he carries himself.
Everything from his frustration when Yuri ignores the newspaper story about him, to the the doubt starting to creep in during Yuri's speech, and finally how he's all but convinced that Yuri is right even before the knock on the door.
Cage had a great speech in this scene and knocked it out of the park. Hawke didn't have a great speech and didn't even have more than a few seconds at a time to work with, and also knocked it out of the park.
I like your avatar.
The power of Yuri's dialogue comes from it's real-world implications; what happens here isn't just possible, it happens on a routine basis.
When you go past a certain threshold in power, influence, or you're seen as necessary enough to the operations that keep the power structure in place, you're essentially protected in a hidden tier of the justice system that looks out for the power brokers, and in his own small way Yuri is a power broker in that he can make certain things happen that others can't.
We've all seen people in high office get away with things that any of us would go to prison for life for, but because that sort of power makes you part of a club that protects its own, the worst they get is they have to resign or spend a year in Club Fed.
There's a line Yuri gives shortly after this scene where he says that he's under no illusions, that them saving him today doesn't mean they'll need him tomorrow, and you have only to look at what happened to Epstein to see that while he got saved once, after he became too much of a problem, he had a little 'accident' in his cell.
Yuri's insight here has such impact because it is the secret and never-spoken truth about how this world's power operates and controls the world, with the rest of us just ignorant pawns.
Yeah but it’s unrealistic though, a agent would never be seen displaying this much emotion in an interrogation, he’s already shown he isn’t in the drive seat by the way he’s behaving. Great acting and great for the movie but very unrealistic
Yeah, both actors performed extremely well in this scene. Could have had Jack verbally be dismayed, but his silence until he heard the knock on the door told the tale better than any words.
Right after the knock……..Hawkes character’s eyes, roll to the side of his face, as if ready to pop out……..without even having to twist and turn his head 💯💯💯
And here we are today, Viktor Bout is released in 2022 :/ ending was predicted correctly
Relevant right now...
After this interrogation jack changed his name to Jake and joined the LAPD narcotics division
And that was a bad move... Jack needs to leave the police full stop lol
@@olbaprabocse9940 it just keeps getting worse for him lol
Some white boy came outta nowhere and saved me papi
Jack needs white fang as his k9. No one stands a chance.
And found out LAPD is just as corrupt..
4:38 The look on Ethan Hawke's face after Yuri explains why he won't be arrested is sooo realistic
The face of no hope
He fully captured the feeling of doing all you can but can't succeed in that take, Followed that by the face of acceptance
Such talent
In the words of Thanos, “I know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail nonetheless.”
Well thats Ethan Hawke for you, one of the strongest actors today
Image what he’ll look like once he finds out Cage got traded for someone from the WNBA!!
Valentine is the Agent who arrested Viktor Bout
*WHO'S WATCHING IN DEC 2022 WHEN VIKTOR BOUT GOT RELEASED??*
Whose that ?
One of Nic Cage's finest hours this role was. That ending is spot on.
Like Adam Sandler, both can actually be pretty decent to outstanding actor, but choose shit movies and roles, unlike many other A-list actors. Well Bruce Willis comes to my mind aswell, had crazy good roles in the 80es and 90es and then began to cashgrab every movie, no matter how bad.
Wilys wonderland is probably one of his finest. This one is close
@@captnmaico6776 Adam and Nick are good but Bruce has turned greedy and lazy.
@@lindildeev5721 You should take that back now.
@@gnitsaf *closest, consider they actually predict his arrest and release
Nicholas Cage at his absolute best. When Nicholas was good,, nobody could beat him.
+PapaGeorg10 Watch Leaving Las Vegas..He is fucking Amazing
PapaGeorg10: In this movie, he is portraying a Ukrainian who has been raised in America so of course he'd have no accent. Mila Kunis is a good example of this. Born in the Ukraine, but no discernible accent to indicate that because she was raised in America.
Have you seen the vid of Mila going after a Russian reporter during an interview in Russia for her movie with Justin Timberlake ?
I think it is called Friends With Benefits.
You can see that Timberlake had no idea she spoke Russian. and she is tearing that reporter a new asshole. It's classic.
PapaGeorg10 Couldn’t disagree more, he’s actually an extremely versatile actor.
I think this is his best movie. :)
December 2022.
Viktor Bout is free again!!!!
Is simply genius!!!
Happening right now: Viktor Bout has been released.
Cage is a national treasure.
I see what you did there.
I see what you did there
I see what you did ther
i c wut u did thar.
i c wut u did tharrrrrr
"I would tell you to go to Hell, but I think you're already there." You can see that Jack's last shot really hits home, and it's what I remember most about this scene.
Jak busts Yuri. Yuri taunts Jak ... while basically goin 2 confession. Jak, shaken, reveals da harsh truth of Yuris recent existence. xlnt scene all round.
I found the line actually weak, after being shown the irrelavance of Jack's life and career. Jack clearly lost the battle and the war and he looks bitter about it. To reference Yuri's private debacles is a low blow.
@@GujjarAttack counter -- war may go on, but even yuri acknowledges jaks accomplishment.
@@GujjarAttack "low blow"? This life is a low blow! Jack figures and probably rightly: "You may've beat the rap, but you're still a creep in a sewer." Cripes, did you notice that hooker take $$ out of Yuri's wallet while still riding him? And Yuri knows that someday Uncle Sam might screw him over anyway someday.
@@1958Shemp How did Yuri and Jack meet? Purely on a professional basis (merchent vs. cop) where Yuri clearly has the more powerful positiion and is untouchable.
Referencing somebodys private issues in that professional situation is a chlidish reply. What if Jack said: "You have an ugly car"?
Yuri knows he is a bad person. Telling him about it is a waste of time.
Art imitates life... 12/8/22
who else is here after the arms dealer that inspired Yuri (viktor bout) just got released?
I love when he points out the "enemy of your enemy" part. It hits you so hard that he's absolutely right in that moment.
To the people who think Nicolas Cage is a bad actor, I might tell you to go to hell, but I think y'all already there.
Brian MadGil Well, why is he acting in Z-grade movies now? Seen "Left Behind" ? He must be getting pretty desperate to act in such fanatical Christian propaganda.
Btw, his real name is Nicholas Coppola. Had he not been Francis Ford Coppola's nephew his acting career would never have taken off. Francis Ford Coppola has enough weight in Hollywood he cast his daughter in the Godfather Part III - which she almost singlehandedly ruined with her abysmal acting.
How Sofia Coppola ever made a career as a director herself is another mystery but with "good connections" you can make a career.
For Nicholas Cage that worked for little more than a decade and now the gig's up.
Nepotism is a factor you shouldn't ignore in Hollywood.
Wez Marauder Dude buys houses like they're going out of season, gets super in debt, makes a billion terrible movies for a quick buck and the world loves him for it. Cage's jig having been up is a prediction we've seen year after year for more than a decade, and frankly it just doesn't hold water.
Wez Marauder
I like a large amount of his movies, most actors have starred in "bad movies".
But I can guarantee you there are people who like those movies we would call bad... :P
***** Exactly. It reminds me of that bit from "Pirates of the Caribbean":
"You are without a doubt the worst pirate I have ever heard of."
"Ah, but you have heard of me."
Fact is: People may give Nicolas Cage shit for all the "shitty" movies he's done, but if he were just some regular schnook, like a carpenter or bricklayer, and he was takin' every job he could for the money, nobody would give two shits.
+Wez Marauder Boo hoo, some christians made a movie.
"Let me tell you what's going to happen, this way you can prepare yourself." I love that line.
"There'll be a knock on the door, and you'll be told that Brandon has agreed to trade me for a basketball player being held in Russia."
Well this scene suddenly became relevant as of yesterday…
More truth in a 5 minute movie clip than on ANY news channel
That´s because any media channel is, at least partially, sponsored by arms dealers. Do you still trust what you see in newspapers, CNN or FOX ?
@@othaner38 moreso FOX than the other examples
Aye, but if you want comedy gold, I still suggest CNN.
FOX: 2 genders
CNN: 2 scoops
"centrist:" EqUaLLy BaDDDD
@@coolguy02536 so ya think fox is a reliable source of information
because it leans to the right rather than left ?
it's the same propoganda machine just made by neocons for naive conservatives
In 2020 who is here?
Still one of the best ever movies!
i am here bro
Present Sir !
Facts
Ethan Hawke is always so good
Go find a Katy Perry video to post this on. You'd think this dumb comment would have died out by now. Not funny, not original, nobody actually cares when they ask. Just a lazy like grab.
The release and trade of Britney Griner brought me here.
Came here after the Britney greiner swap deal...
I'm sure its been said already but...
looks like this Hawke
has been Caged.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Jamesmartens55 OUTSTANDING.
Giggaddeee gooooo
I applaud you my friend 👏
Well played friend... WELL PLAYED
Jamesmartens55 Win!
Hawk is amazing in this, you can tell he slowly starts to believe what he's saying but refuses to buy into it; just hoping he's not right.
And then the knocking comes.
Saccharin3D Exactly. Ethan Hawke is one of the most criminally underrated talents of Hollywood. If I was a up and coming Indie flick director, I'd be begging Ethan to work with me.
+jonnyhan Doubt it
too theatrical imo
Richard_Sledge his character is not stupid and idealist maybe who believes in right and wrong just caught in the situation where that's is not so easy to tell. I have much sympathy for his character because you can respect him and his mission just in this situation his higher ups dont care.
Can’t wait for Lord of War 2 to come out I think Snoop Dogg should play that WNBA player
and I will be out of prison before you collect a pension. That is the truth.
Always loved this scene, not because Cage gets away with murder - so to speak - but because like he says, governments need people like him
a sad truth that will never change
*THE INEVITABLE CORRUPTION OF GOVERNMENT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE SOCRATIC ERA OF ANCIENT GREECE*
An ancient greek philosopher called Thrachymachus famously won a debate with Socrates on the nature of Govt, or the most virtuous form / behaviour of government. Plato recounts the debate in Republic (from memory) - it's worth reading, because it demonstrates that (a) the litany of endemic problems with politics, bureaucracy, & government that plague us now, have plagued us for millenia, (b) human nature doesn't change, and (c) *_all forms of government inevitably become corrupt._*
*CRITICAL CAUSAL FACTORS (PSYCHOPATHY; POLITICAL PONEROLOGY) ONLY A FEW DECADES OLD*
One critical advantage we have today, is our slowly developing understanding, starting only a few decades ago, of critical aspects about human nature & nature of evil previously unknown. All academic, scientific, artistic, literary, political, philosophical , psychological (etc) investigation, analysis, and commentary on the nature of evil, the scourge of government, corrupt / illegitimate political idealogy (slavery, feudalism, fascism, communism, tyrannic despotism / totalitarian dictatorship, colonialism, noble / aristocratic / royal political power & rule), supernatural delusion / manipulation / pathology etc...lacked, until the 1960s / 70s on, understanding of the topics below:
*Psychopathy*
Wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy;
Richard Hare's 'Without Conscience' is a seminal mainstream work
*Political Ponerology / Pathocracy*
www.ponerology.com/evil_2b.html
pathocracy.wordpress.com/definition/
*DEMOCIDE*
Term coined by Nobel Peace Prize nominated political science Professor R.J. Rummel
*Democide:* _The murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder._
Democide is / was the central research topic of Rummel's career. He came to a figure (derived from a relatively broad range) of 262,000,000 for 20th Century democide.
_"This democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century."
In summary: The idea that government corruption is a permanent fact of life is an unproven assertion (claim, statement) based on ignorance, propaganda, misinformation, disinformation, capitulation, and thousands of years of systematized manipulation, control, tyrann, oppression. If you're going to promote other people's ideas, I'd recommend getting the first clue about how the world works first ;) I've done my best to present an accurate summary of why the world is the way it is, rather than simply taking up a contrary view and debating for points. Ultimately however, I'd be lying by omission if I failed to expression my disgust & unequivocal opposition against willing self-enforcement and support for the primitive brutality that's made life an unfathomable nightmare for so many for so long.
Fuck war, fuck royalty / aristocracy, fuck religion, fuck the military, fuck power crazies & control freaks, fuck the government, fuck the corporatocracy, pathocracy, technocracy, FUCK DEMOCRACY, fuck the so-called media, fuck the power elite, and most of all FUCK THE CRETINOUS MASSES without whom the above wouldn't be possible.
PS: Go tits & pussy! ;)
Well spoke
@@soundgardener4940 exactly the same conclusion that I had on this matter
PS : especially in the tits and pussy lol
@F.u.c.k Go.ogl.e Actually I'd say it began probably at the very beginning it's the laws of probability as soon as there was power for someone to abuse it was inevitable somebody eventually would abuse it.
I Agree.
That door knock was like a stab in a heart...
The thing is that this is more than likely a similar reality to our own.
Hollywood, "Mirrors" the future
(So they say!!)
No white knights or dark lords just people and factions doing what is in their own best interests.
It's based off the actions of a real person, so yes, it is very close to our reality with some names/facts changed for dramatic reasons
Ukraine war started by democrats and neocons is a good example.
it is happening
Viktor Anatolyevich Bout is back in business!
This scene is like something out of a Shakespearean play.
"Thou hast calleth me evil, but lo, thou art a necessary evil."
Also like that line from Training Day
"I know it's wrong, but it's necessary"
I need the WHOLE movin in Shakespearean script. PLEASE!
"Let me tell you what's going to happen, this way you can prepare yourself..." Was the best line of the movie!
he got released today for a basketball 😃
December 8 2022 and this scene has come to life duds 🎉out 😮
One of the most Under-rated movies of all times honestly.
it's pretty mediocre, i just watched it for the first time. jared leto's acting is over the top and ethan hawke is not memorable. nicolas cage is the only reason people watch this movie and he gives a brad pitt in seven years in tibet performance
@@haonrolyat It was the best movie.
Wouldn´t it be akward if, after this speech, nobody ever came to save him?
Almost the same speech as the Jack reacher movie with the sheriff.
That's probably what would happen in real life
in real life, he would be shot to death while resisting arrest and the president would find a new arms dealer.
Yep. And Epstein didn't kill himself.
@@MrYfrank14 not necessarily. At the time he's the most well known and trusted arms dealer by most. Doing what he does you really have to build some sort of relationship with your clients. To just "Replace" wouldn't always be the best option.
Lol it actually happened today!
Seems relevant to revisit this scene today, given the Griner swap.
"never go to war, especially with yourself"
This movie had no business being as fuckin' amazing as it was.
4:39 the way you see his soul shatter when the knock hits just gets me every time
Art imitates life. He’s just been released for a wnba player while an American hero rots in prison. Sickening
A dishonorably discharged marine (for stealing from the Marines) who will probably face espionage charges when he comes back to the US? That hero? LOL.
@@MrScarfaceX he was spying for America. He won’t face charges in the US. Still a better trade than Griner.
@@MrScarfaceX yea, a dishonored Wnba player who took drugs into a hostile country who did nothing but talk shit about America for years until she realized how the rest of the world would treat her.
My family has disowned me, my wive and kid left me, my brother is dead, trust me, I fully appreciate the seriousness of my situation.
its been three years, how ya holding up.
Yes, Diego. We're concerned for you.
really hope the situation improved diego
Is that all?
maybe he did something unforgivable
It's sad how Yuri was explaining to Jack what's gonna happen, you can see from Jack's expression that deep down he knows Yuri's right. He's not stupid. He knows our government frequently works against him.
He still had hope, but it's shattered the moment the door was knocked.
I would ask my bosses why did you have me chase this guy for so long if you were just gonna let him loose anyway. I feel sorry for Jack, they were wasting his time.
@@mbucd
Because they need to keep up the fiction that they care about 'justice.'
@@mbucd Plausible deniability. When anyone comes snooping around, the U.S. govt can just point to the hapless Jack and say "See? We tried. Couldn't have been us." Yuri may be in hell, but Jack is right there with him.
@@mbucd
Because they want to be able to say "We tried, but we couldnt" is about keeping the picture of "Justice" and all that BS they like to say.
Turns out it was Biden knocking on the door...
Cage was… BIDEN his time. XD
SHIT SON
no wonder trumpy is running again so he can benefit from his services.
Lmao lol 😂
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Brilliant day today. Finally like in the movie😄