@@caveatlector2671 I think that may have been the case just a few short years ago, but the BMW x30 and x40 series shares the same 2.0T and 3.0T as the Supra (they co-developed that engine together). So if BMWs with that engine (which is most of their general lineup) have reliability issues, that means that in theory, the Supra would have the same reliability issues…and we all know Toyota isn’t gonna have that. (B48 and B58 engine codes). Oh, and full transparency, I’m not a BMW fanboy. I drive VWs. Lol.
@@robertschneider2189 I owned one too many... a 323i. It seemed full of bullet holes. My mechanic knew me by my first name. BMW does not belong on this list.
My 03 Audi A4 last 150k miles. My 2012 VW GLI lasted about 175k miles. My 2017 GLI has about 70k miles and no issues so far. I guess I’m one of the lucky ones?
VW as brand aren't really known to do well reliability wise when it comes to consumer reports. That's not to say they aren't good , I m sure there are some VW's which are pretty reliable. But if your comparing to other brands like Honda, Lexus etc which have least issues
In the USA 70% of Toyotas are made in America. Two-thirds of all Honda and Acura automobiles sold in the USA are made in America. Even Lexus has a plant in Lexington, Kentucky, that produces its ES model.
@@lavayuki Or somewhere else in Europe. It is usually more practical to build cars near where they are being sold. Due to taxes, tariffs, regulations, and shipping costs.
I have had my 2005 Toyota Avalon for 10 years and besides new tires and oil changes have had very few problems. My car still looks like new and runs great with over 180,000 miles.
I agree with you Shari, I really don't trust any European brand for long term reliability. Though no car company is perfect, Toyota, Honda, and Mazda are usually safe bets.
@@_stoupa2_397 Volvo? 😂Volvo sold my son a BRAND New 168,000 dollar truck that was a LEMON!😡He bought it in a state that had NO-lemon law. My son flew to the Volvo headquarters in Sweeden. They did NOT help him. Looong story.....Just a disgrace of a company!!!!!!
True. I had a 2014 Mazda 6 that I drove for 7 years and 125k miles. Other than brakes and a battery it didn't need a single repair. Best car I ever had.
I has a Protege, a 3, a 626, a 929, and a Miata. Not in that order. The Protege kept catching fire, and was eventually replaced several times by the dealer. The 626 and 929 went through several engines and transmissions, and were eventually replaced by the dealer. The 3 never made it out of the lot. Obviously no quality control. The Miata was replaced after a lawsuit. I sold the replacement ASAP, before it failed. My sister had problems with Mazdas also. Something in the top of the engine kept going. She eventually towed the piece of junk to the scrap yard. Mazda, reliable? No. Toyota is the manufacturer I most often see broken down on the side of the road. There's reliability. Actually, other than BMW, there are a lot of these vehicles on the side of the road. I rarely see a BMW, VW, or Audi on the side of the road. Land Rovers and Range Rovers are mostly broken down in driveways. Maybe parking is bad for them. From personal experience, they have electrical issues, much like Jaguar and McLaren. Honda seems to have a lot of manufacturing and assembly defects. The weather seals leak--often due to having the seams in the wrong locations. Honda is stuffed into the body, leaving almost no space to work on it, which makes repairs very pricey, and there are regularly small issues. If you lower the standards to Honda level, maybe you don't mind all the quality compromises and issue.
@@googleuser6635 depends on the year. I bought a brand new 1990 Toyota Tercel and it was the worst car I ever owned. Kept stranding me and by 50,000 miles the engine needed more work than the car was worth.
I look at resale prices as a real world indicator of longer term ownership. Consumer Reports is based on shorter term ownership. With that in mind, BMW would be at or near the bottom. Most wise used car buyers run from BMW, Audi, M-B, Jaguar... Why? 1. Poor long term reliability. 2. Cost of parts are insane. 3. Cost of qualified shop labor is also insane. I haven't bought anything other than Lexus, Acura, Honda, Toyota, or Mazda since 1988. (Mostly Honda)
Honestly most of the list makes sense. Mazda surprised me a bit as I didn't think their cars were as reliable. I seriously doubt BMW, anyone who has ever had one can be witness that once the warranty is gone BMWs become money pits (along with Audis and Mercedes), hence its common wisdom to never buy those, only lease.
BMW has come a long way. And fun fact…the new BMW x30 and x40 series (330, 340, 430, etc) shares the same 2.0T and 3.0T engine as the new Supra (B48 and B58 engine codes). That engine is found is most of BMW sedans. So if those engines have reliability issues, then that means the Supra would have the same type of issue. And let’s be real…Toyota isn’t about to let that happen.
I bought a new Mazda cx-5 this year after doing a lot of resesrch. They have come a long way since ford owned them. I was actually looking at a Toyota Camry or rav 4 originally but they just aren't available or the dealers are not willing to negotiate. I paid the same for my cx-5 as the Toyota dealer wanted for a similarly equipped camry, and the Camry was not all wheel drive.
Our 2022 Lexus NX250 has not been reliable😢 3 4 recalls. Also, Problem with infotainment system, blind spot monitoring. Now the Gas door won’t pop open. I assume I’m not lucky.
J D Power just came out with their 2023 survey on dependability and Lexus is #1 again. On our sixth and seventh Lexus most sold with around 100,000 miles and had never had one issue. In the last 24 years Lexus has been rated #1 by J D Power in dependability 18 times, #2 three times, #3 once, #4 once and #6 once usually out of 32 manufacturers. This is total dominance.
Don’t be fooled by JD power. Anyone can pay them to be number one on the list there’s no way Lexus was anything but number one. Years ago JD Paula said the best and most reliable car with a dodge because dodge paid them to say so don’t go by JD powers.
Thanks for setting the score right concerning BMW. Once you pass 70k miles the car becomes a money pit, and sometimes a nightmare for car mechanics, with all the crazy electronics.
Toyota is the best brand on earth about reliability for the price. I'll never buy anything else than a Japanese car. They know how to build cars more than any other country. Big respect for them!
I’ve owned Hondas for most of the time I’ve been driving and have had nothing but good luck with them. Except for one instance with a 90’ Civic hatch, all exceptional cars. I also owned a Mazda MX6 for a few years and enjoyed that car as well.
This list was for 2023. BMW and Toyota co-developed the B48 and B58 engines, which are their 2.0T and 3.0T engines. These engines can be found in the 2, 3, 4, and some 5 series cars, as well as the Toyota Supra. With that said, if BMW have reliability issues, then I would imagine the Supra having those same reliability issues. And let’s be real, Toyota is not about to reintroduce the Supra with reliability issues…so why wouldn’t BMW move up a few spots this year?
@@billyrock8305 Um, I can’t speak for the other person who made the comment, but I was being sarcastic. I still don’t think I believe that BMW is reliable after the warranty expires. I know several people who have owned BMWs and they loved them until the warranty expired and then they had to repair them often. All them now drive Lexus
it doesn't matter what car brand you own. If you're driving like crazy person everyday and don't take care of your car, IT IS NOT RELIABLE!! it all comes down to driver. i own bmw x3 m40i for almost 6 years now and no issues because of how i take care and maintain my car.
I don’t think it’s that hard to believe that BMW is on this list for 2023. BMW and Toyota co-developed the B48 and B58 engines (2.0T and 3.0T), which can be found on the 2, 3, 4, and some 5 series vehicles, as well as the Supra. So in theory, if BMW have engine reliability issues, then those same issues would be found on the Supra. And I find it really hard to believe that Toyota would reintroduce the Supra with reliability issues - that’s not in them at all.
@@dimi3391 Supra is a sportscar, it cant be compared to more practical vehicles like hatchbacks, sedans, SUVs, etc, I fully expect a Supra to be less reliable than the rest of the Toyota's lineup.
@@MagicNash89 I mean, I think in most cases, this would be true. But I think that the Supra had a legacy of being a reliable sports car, and given Toyota’s track record with reliability, why would this change for their sports car? Toyota and Acura were the ones who originally invited the reliable sports car. Lol. I personally can’t fathom the idea of Toyota saying “hey, we’re gonna reintroduce this sports car but we we’re not going to worry about the reliability as much as it’s predecessors or other vehicles within our lineup.” This is Toyota we’re talking about…
I looked at the Venza, RAV4 , both Limited models and the Subaru Forester Touring. My insurance premiums would have Increased by $1K for the Venza, $700 for the RAV4 per year. After I sold my 11 RAV4 4WD Limited and bought my Forester Touring my insurance Premium DROPPED by almost $300 a year. I asked my insurance agent why it dropped and she told me that the Subaru Outback and Forester’s had earned the IIHS Safety PLUS award and they were the safest vehicle on the road. Yes I miss the 269hp 3.5 V6 from my RAV4, but I LOVE the mpg in my Forester. The fit and finish, interior and comfort in my Forester Touring is like the quality of my mom’s Lexus. The traction on the road is far superior over any other vehicle on all road conditions.
Modern Subarus have also been proving to be quite reliable too. Personally I think BMW should be nixed from the list and Subaru be added right after Honda.
@@TheFaintofHearts2113 I agree. Right after the BMW warranty expires they start breaking down. Both our Outback and our Forester have proven to be very reliable.
Is Toyota & Lexus the same internally? I hope my Toyota hybrid gives me as many trouble free years as my previous Sonata. Bought new in 2008. All I ever did was the routine maintenance on it. Oil change every 6 mos. I will continue 6 mo oil changes with Toyota even though they say it’s unnecessary 🤷♀️
Well, 5k miles or 12 months with synthetic oil, whichever comes first is fine for most uses. however, if you have a lot stop and go traffic and/or colder climate, you can do it more often. I would look at the color of the oil after you change it and as you continue using it. It should be clean and clear (if there are no additives) after the oil change. As it starts to get darker and non-transparent, then you know it is time to change it ever if it is before the scheduled maintenance.
@@RRLV434It’s the same thing. Lexus is Toyota’s high end luxury brand. Some say the engine is bulletproof. Both owned by Toyota Motor Corporation. RX350 is built on the same platform as the Toyota Highlander. Lexus is the only Toyota I really want because it doesn’t feel like plastic and has the high end interior.
Lexus!!!!!!! Honda Accord isn't worth the money or time, I think every car in it's segment easily beats it. Even the Malibu is better than the Crapcord!!! I'm thinking about even selling my Accord for something that is actually interesting like the Camry or Sonata.
My old Toyota allways starts in the winter.It can be at minus 25 degrees celsius, and it starts. As long i keep my battery full, it starts. I use my car for 40 000 km or 25 000 miles a year and it have never stopped in Norway in winter, or summer. I pay easy 2 000 dollars more to get a 2008 model of Toyota compare to other brands
Toyota started in 2018 to use aluminum 8 speed transmissions in Camry's. Users said that they start having trouble at about 100,000 miles. Turning off the wheel track will help them last longer according to owners.
My 1979 BMW 320i (picked up new directly from the BMW factory in Munich) was very reliable BUT that was before the increased use of plastics, computers, and relatively untried and/or over-engineered technologies. It had a manual 4 speed transmission and even had a distributor with breaker points etc. It made a joke of the road-holding and performance of cars produced here in North America at that time, and was thoroughly enjoyable to drive. I thoroughly concur with you that BMW cars are NOT reliable these days - especially over the long term. As a side note, I have kept my MB 300SDL as a "summer toy", but would never consider buying anything other than Toyota or Lexus. (Providing they get their act together re. development of decent EV's [with Tesla efficiency but Toyota/Lexus quality and longevity] in the coming years.
BMW was a totally different brand in the 70s-80s. The 2002, E21, and E30 generation 3-Series were known to be very reliable. They were well engineered and mechanically simple as you said. Well before the era of globalization kicked in.
What do you think about the new fully electric Lexus RZ? They just announced it on their USA website, take a look. Maybe your dreams about a Tesla with Japanese reliability are going to be fulfilled this year!
@@Electruver The Lexus RZ looks great, however, I'm not impressed by the size of the battery and its likely range. Speed of charging might also be an issue for me. While I enjoy driving my son's Tesla, I'm now too old a dog to learn new tricks for its non-conventional display/control/screen/systems. BUT the charge network is superb. BTW, other than my old "bullet-proof" MB toy" I have never kept a car more than 5 years EXCEPT for my 2011 Sienna, bought new, on which I have spent a total of around $300CAD on a single repair - the driver side rear electric sliding door. It still drives like the day I bought it (new) in November 2010.
Great video! I thought the fact that BMW made the list was pretty jaw dropping! However, my biggest surprise Toyota coming first! I feel like they built such an amazing reputation that no one will look at how poorly they are make particular models. Toyota is not worthy of such high praise despite I own 2, neither does Honda, for that matter! I own 2 of them as well. So far the Hondas are doing better the Toyotas make me cringe in disgust!
It really frustrates me how many reliability issues American car makers have given that I’m American. I also find it really frustrating that most American car makers make vehicles that are either too big or too lame
Shari, I have a question for you personally. Since Toyota has the best reliability, why did you choose the Mazda as your personal vehicle? Your Mazda is gorgeous, btw.
It was the styling, driving feel, and luxury touch that gave it an edge for me. All personal preferences I guess. Plus I have enough confidence in Mazda's reputation.
I drive a 2016 Kia Sorento, V6 awd. It has been amazingly good in the 120K miles Ive driven it, it still runs like a champ. My daughter drives a 2013 Hyundai Elantra, 155k miles and it has needed very little to keep it running good. Hyundai/kia IMO make very good cars.
LETS CONSIDER THE BOTH RELIABILITY AND REPAIRABILITY. 1) how often does something break? 2) how expensive is it to repair? 3) because of the crippled supply chain, what is the delay for getting parts? 4) how difficult is it to get a repair under warranty? do you get the run around, gas lighted: "thats normal" i have an audi a5, had to do major repairs on the turbo and timing chain because of poor engineering design. paid out of pocket, BUT then was partially compensated in a class action lawsuit. it burns an oz of oil every 50 miles. i like the car. may well replace it with another a5, but also purchase an extended warranty.
The type of people that subscribe to Consumer Reports and fill out surveys likely only keep a vehicle for 100 thousand miles then trade it in, so fewer are writing about reliability at 200 to 300 thousand miles. Especially if they overpay for a BMW. Mechanics say they have a lot of problems as they get older. Look at what taxi companies buy, although they are more about short trips so often choose a hybrid for better gas mileage, and helping to pay for any big battery and generator problems later.
@@Quinton0520 even when they were affiliated with Ford a decade ago they were far better than a Ford. It's been a decade, they've improved leaps and bounds from then. Meanwhile Toyota is only starting to stutter.
@@Quinton0520 nah, my wife has an 09 Mazda 6 and it still drives great. I'm concerned on Toyota that thereve been issues with their newer engines as of late
Well It'll seem that my choice of transportation is the sensible choice. I own a Rav4 prime and a Lexus CT200h. They just go on an on, and I only see the dealership for the regular maintenance
@@johnnylightning1967 Not a drop lost.... The 2.4 engine used up to until 2009 had the bad pistons... they went to a 2.5l engine in 2010 and solved the oil-burning issue...😄😄😄😄
@@gwats19577 My Son had a 2009 Camry 2.4 , bought it with 140,000 , has had the issue with oil consumption , a quart every tank full . Ran great but got expensive . Slowed it down abut with Lucas oil. Just sold it , and now has 2.5 L 2020 sonata. Thanks for responding
Lexus & Toyota are total reliability, and very high resale. BMW must’ve paid CR to be on the list there’s no way BMW would make the top 15. FYI any manufacturer can be number one on JD powers list of they pay enough money. Years ago, JD powers said the most reliable vehicle is a Dodge. I guess he is now taking payments to be on their list.
I wish someone in my family had enough sense to direct me towards more reliable cars in my youth. Would have saved me thousands of dollars in expensive repairs. Most of these cars are nothing but money pits after the warranty ends. I feel good now that I am researching and reading experiences from Honda and Toyota owners.
Hi Shari, great video and I love the fact you said you talk to local mechanics instead of just relying on Consumer Reports. Personally, I have seen CR have rated reliability incorrectly in the past. Also, I am surprised Honda made the list and not surprised that Acura, Nissan and Infiniti did not make the list. I would like to see GM hitting this list in future especially when they keep making amazing high end SUVs and the New Corvette.
Nissan - Infiniti did not surprise me. A few years ago it would’ve made sense for them to be on the list, however, build quality isn’t exactly the most stellar when compared to Toyota. These two companies are probably just below the top 5.
Sure hope it counts long term ownership though. Being reliable for only short term isn't reliable in my books, especially if it's within warranty period.
Not counting long-term ownership is bullshit🤣Newer cars with low milesshould have less issues by default. Cars should be made throwaway/constant problem-generators after 100k or whatever miles. They should be judged by long-term ownership for the most part.
All car makers have had issues with certain years and models. E.g., VCM on the Honda V6 engines (2009 and later Honda Pilots, 2014 and later Acuras), 1.5L turbo engines in the 2016-2017 Honda Civic/Honda CRV (oil dilution), Toyota 2007-2011 engines that had bad piston rings and started burning oil if not properly cared for. CR is overall a good starting point though.
As the fortunate owner of a 2021 Mazda6 Signature I am dismayed, no.. I'm irked that BMW would even be in the same list as a Mazda. Earlier this year I traded a 2020 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab SV 4X4 for the Mazda6. Trucks are fun but just not that practical of a daily for the average person. I dont haul lumber or gravel, I dont own a towable boat anymore, I dont need the constant aggravation of parking and jumping (literally) into and out of a truck. Im an old man, I want something thats still fun but also practical and super comfy. You cant beat the '21 Mazda6 Signature for the money, and I believe it'll hold its value well being the final year. Dont worry, my office is about 8 minutes of backroads from my house. The miles will stay down :)
I think toyota and Lexus sacrifices their car performance and handling, in exchange for stability and reliability. I might argue they have over done it, you need to push gas pedal down twice for it to reach highway speed...
Mazda’s reliability went way, way, up when the dropped Ford, and that BMW reliability joke, is really gotta be a joke, they’re junk ! A great review nonetheless.
BMW?! that's a hard no. They should be in the next video you mentioned.
@@caveatlector2671 I think that may have been the case just a few short years ago, but the BMW x30 and x40 series shares the same 2.0T and 3.0T as the Supra (they co-developed that engine together). So if BMWs with that engine (which is most of their general lineup) have reliability issues, that means that in theory, the Supra would have the same reliability issues…and we all know Toyota isn’t gonna have that. (B48 and B58 engine codes).
Oh, and full transparency, I’m not a BMW fanboy. I drive VWs. Lol.
I choked on my coffee when you announced BMW as a reliable car brand 😫😂😂
It's the most reliable amongst German car brands maybe.
I did the same 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This guy just lost all credibility with me listing BMW. Someone gave him a scooby snack to say this.
@@kavalereConsumer Reports has them at #3 this year
@@FCM415 bribery. I know mechanic that has a BMW repair shop. After 3 years the cars are money pits.
There is no way BMW is as reliable as any of the other auto makers on this list.
BMTroubleyou?
Things change man.
@@FCM415 pretty sure that hasn't
I have owned 4, 540i. They are bulletproof. It belongs on this list
@@robertschneider2189 I owned one too many... a 323i. It seemed full of bullet holes. My mechanic knew me by my first name. BMW does not belong on this list.
Once again TOYOTA DID IT AGAIN 💯❤
My vw golf lasted 70k..my camry 270k and still going.
Sadly, VW has really fallen off the cliff of Long Term Reliability.
Same type of issue my vw polo only lasted 60k, changed to toyota and not look backed back since
My 03 Audi A4 last 150k miles. My 2012 VW GLI lasted about 175k miles. My 2017 GLI has about 70k miles and no issues so far. I guess I’m one of the lucky ones?
Camrys are insane man, I’m an accord boy still rocking the 2012 stock accord, but my brother has a 255,000 mile 2004 Camry and it’s still running
VW as brand aren't really known to do well reliability wise when it comes to consumer reports. That's not to say they aren't good , I m sure there are some VW's which are pretty reliable. But if your comparing to other brands like Honda, Lexus etc which have least issues
Japanese cars are the most reliable in my opinion, like Toyota, Honda, Lexus etc. European cars have terrible reliability.
Japanese cars besides Nissan lol they’re actually garbage
In the USA 70% of Toyotas are made in America. Two-thirds of all Honda and Acura automobiles sold in the USA are made in America. Even Lexus has a plant in Lexington, Kentucky, that produces its ES model.
@@LincolnRon I live in the UK so I assume those cars are made here for us
@@lavayuki Or somewhere else in Europe. It is usually more practical to build cars near where they are being sold. Due to taxes, tariffs, regulations, and shipping costs.
To be fair…Japanese cars are also pretty boring to drive. I’ll take a Benz any day!
I have had my 2005 Toyota Avalon for 10 years and besides new tires and oil changes have had very few problems. My car still looks like new and runs great with over 180,000 miles.
Just broken in.
Agree. But my son had Corolla, which he beat the crap out of. I have 😊a 2009 Rav 4 with 160000 miles. Not one thing broke, and I mean nothing. 😊😊😊
I agree with you Shari, I really don't trust any European brand for long term reliability. Though no car company is perfect, Toyota, Honda, and Mazda are usually safe bets.
Volvo? Peugeot? Citroën? Renault? They are reliable af.
Mazda?! Honda?!🤣🤣🤣
@@_stoupa2_397 Volvo? 😂Volvo sold my son a BRAND New 168,000 dollar truck that was a LEMON!😡He bought it in a state that had NO-lemon law. My son flew to the Volvo headquarters in Sweeden. They did NOT help him. Looong story.....Just a disgrace of a company!!!!!!
@@alxdava2004 Yes they are
@@_stoupa2_397 Funny
Mazda has been the best-kept secret of the industry for years!
True. I had a 2014 Mazda 6 that I drove for 7 years and 125k miles. Other than brakes and a battery it didn't need a single repair. Best car I ever had.
Life is too short to drive boring cars
@@JoeGiz64 it's also too short to drive something that makes people think you're a douchebag.
I has a Protege, a 3, a 626, a 929, and a Miata. Not in that order. The Protege kept catching fire, and was eventually replaced several times by the dealer. The 626 and 929 went through several engines and transmissions, and were eventually replaced by the dealer. The 3 never made it out of the lot. Obviously no quality control. The Miata was replaced after a lawsuit. I sold the replacement ASAP, before it failed.
My sister had problems with Mazdas also. Something in the top of the engine kept going. She eventually towed the piece of junk to the scrap yard.
Mazda, reliable? No.
Toyota is the manufacturer I most often see broken down on the side of the road. There's reliability.
Actually, other than BMW, there are a lot of these vehicles on the side of the road. I rarely see a BMW, VW, or Audi on the side of the road. Land Rovers and Range Rovers are mostly broken down in driveways. Maybe parking is bad for them. From personal experience, they have electrical issues, much like Jaguar and McLaren.
Honda seems to have a lot of manufacturing and assembly defects. The weather seals leak--often due to having the seams in the wrong locations. Honda is stuffed into the body, leaving almost no space to work on it, which makes repairs very pricey, and there are regularly small issues. If you lower the standards to Honda level, maybe you don't mind all the quality compromises and issue.
@@googleuser6635 depends on the year. I bought a brand new 1990 Toyota Tercel and it was the worst car I ever owned. Kept stranding me and by 50,000 miles the engine needed more work than the car was worth.
I look at resale prices as a real world indicator of longer term ownership. Consumer Reports is based on shorter term ownership.
With that in mind, BMW would be at or near the bottom. Most wise used car buyers run from BMW, Audi, M-B, Jaguar... Why? 1. Poor long term reliability. 2. Cost of parts are insane. 3. Cost of qualified shop labor is also insane.
I haven't bought anything other than Lexus, Acura, Honda, Toyota, or Mazda since 1988. (Mostly Honda)
1. Toyota
2. Lexus
3. BMW (lol)
4. Mazda
5. Honda
Agree with your BMW LOL
Japanese cars are amazing. Our Toyota Revo model year 2000 still runs today.
Honestly most of the list makes sense. Mazda surprised me a bit as I didn't think their cars were as reliable.
I seriously doubt BMW, anyone who has ever had one can be witness that once the warranty is gone BMWs become money pits (along with Audis and Mercedes), hence its common wisdom to never buy those, only lease.
The best looking plus reliable is the mazda 3 hatch I think.
AGREED!
I fell off my chair as you announced BMW in 3rd spot... I wouldn't even consider it in the top 20
BMW has come a long way. And fun fact…the new BMW x30 and x40 series (330, 340, 430, etc) shares the same 2.0T and 3.0T engine as the new Supra (B48 and B58 engine codes). That engine is found is most of BMW sedans. So if those engines have reliability issues, then that means the Supra would have the same type of issue. And let’s be real…Toyota isn’t about to let that happen.
I bought a new Mazda cx-5 this year after doing a lot of resesrch. They have come a long way since ford owned them. I was actually looking at a Toyota Camry or rav 4 originally but they just aren't available or the dealers are not willing to negotiate. I paid the same for my cx-5 as the Toyota dealer wanted for a similarly equipped camry, and the Camry was not all wheel drive.
Cx5 good car, second one!
I prefer Toyota and Mazda
I have a 2017 Toyota Corolla and it has been extremely reliable! I had a 2010 Kia Forte previously and it was no Corolla that's for sure lol.
Agree! Glad you pointed out BMW not being reliable long-term.
Our 2022 Lexus NX250 has not been reliable😢 3 4 recalls. Also, Problem with infotainment system, blind spot monitoring. Now the Gas door won’t pop open. I assume I’m not lucky.
I forget there’s also interior rattle
J D Power just came out with their 2023 survey on dependability and Lexus is #1 again. On our sixth and seventh Lexus most sold with around 100,000 miles and had never had one issue. In the last 24 years Lexus has been rated #1 by J D Power in dependability 18 times, #2 three times, #3 once, #4 once and #6 once usually out of 32 manufacturers. This is total dominance.
Don’t be fooled by JD power. Anyone can pay them to be number one on the list there’s no way Lexus was anything but number one. Years ago JD Paula said the best and most reliable car with a dodge because dodge paid them to say so don’t go by JD powers.
Thanks for setting the score right concerning BMW. Once you pass 70k miles the car becomes a money pit, and sometimes a nightmare for car mechanics, with all the crazy electronics.
The problem with these reliability scores is that they don't necessarily reflect the seriousness of the problems encountered;
The Mazda 6 speed automatic was one of the reasons I bought it.
Toyota is the best brand on earth about reliability for the price. I'll never buy anything else than a Japanese car. They know how to build cars more than any other country. Big respect for them!
I’ve owned Hondas for most of the time I’ve been driving and have had nothing but good luck with them. Except for one instance with a 90’ Civic hatch, all exceptional cars. I also owned a Mazda MX6 for a few years and enjoyed that car as well.
Thank you for your detail and acknowledgment of the glaring BMW rating. Your explanation made sense. I can get with this list.
This list was for 2023. BMW and Toyota co-developed the B48 and B58 engines, which are their 2.0T and 3.0T engines. These engines can be found in the 2, 3, 4, and some 5 series cars, as well as the Toyota Supra. With that said, if BMW have reliability issues, then I would imagine the Supra having those same reliability issues. And let’s be real, Toyota is not about to reintroduce the Supra with reliability issues…so why wouldn’t BMW move up a few spots this year?
You guys deaf or did you not watch the video? He literally said himself he doesn't agree with BMW being reliable.
Love the vids!
I wonder how much money BMW paid CR to be include on the list?
LOL, I just replied to another comment saying the same thing.
@@Doc1855
Jinx haaaaaa.
Who knows maybe the car identifies as being reliable so we have to treat it as reliable?
$0. Non profit organization.
@@billyrock8305 Um, I can’t speak for the other person who made the comment, but I was being sarcastic.
I still don’t think I believe that BMW is reliable after the warranty expires.
I know several people who have owned BMWs and they loved them until the warranty expired and then they had to repair them often.
All them now drive Lexus
@@joey86bu1 🤣🤣🤣💯
Why is subaru not on the list?? Just a thought
Head gaskets, rust
CVT transmission troubles
I used to be BMW technician in Canada, you really can go bankrupt owning one of these cars if you don't $$ to up keep them !!
Bingo…if you don’t keep up with maintenance. But that hold true for many vehicles…right?
@@dimi3391 BMW is not as reliable as Toyota or Honda etc, the parts are just not well build . So to Keep up the maintenance it will cost way more .
How much did BMW pay for that ranking?
It's based on consumer reports though. He said he disagree.
Toyota/Lexus is no doubt the most reliable and care free car brands
it doesn't matter what car brand you own. If you're driving like crazy person everyday and don't take care of your car, IT IS NOT RELIABLE!! it all comes down to driver. i own bmw x3 m40i for almost 6 years now and no issues because of how i take care and maintain my car.
Hard to believe that BMW in this list
I don’t think it’s that hard to believe that BMW is on this list for 2023. BMW and Toyota co-developed the B48 and B58 engines (2.0T and 3.0T), which can be found on the 2, 3, 4, and some 5 series vehicles, as well as the Supra. So in theory, if BMW have engine reliability issues, then those same issues would be found on the Supra. And I find it really hard to believe that Toyota would reintroduce the Supra with reliability issues - that’s not in them at all.
@@dimi3391 Supra is a sportscar, it cant be compared to more practical vehicles like hatchbacks, sedans, SUVs, etc, I fully expect a Supra to be less reliable than the rest of the Toyota's lineup.
@@MagicNash89 I mean, I think in most cases, this would be true. But I think that the Supra had a legacy of being a reliable sports car, and given Toyota’s track record with reliability, why would this change for their sports car? Toyota and Acura were the ones who originally invited the reliable sports car. Lol. I personally can’t fathom the idea of Toyota saying “hey, we’re gonna reintroduce this sports car but we we’re not going to worry about the reliability as much as it’s predecessors or other vehicles within our lineup.” This is Toyota we’re talking about…
I'm a huge Toyota guy, but how in the hell is Honda 62 out of 100. They are legendary!
I looked at the Venza, RAV4 , both Limited models and the Subaru Forester Touring.
My insurance premiums would have Increased by $1K for the Venza, $700 for the RAV4 per year.
After I sold my 11 RAV4 4WD Limited and bought my Forester Touring my insurance Premium DROPPED by almost $300 a year.
I asked my insurance agent why it dropped and she told me that the Subaru Outback and Forester’s had earned the IIHS Safety PLUS award and they were the safest vehicle on the road.
Yes I miss the 269hp 3.5 V6 from my RAV4, but I LOVE the mpg in my Forester.
The fit and finish, interior and comfort in my Forester Touring is like the quality of my mom’s Lexus.
The traction on the road is far superior over any other vehicle on all road conditions.
Modern Subarus have also been proving to be quite reliable too. Personally I think BMW should be nixed from the list and Subaru be added right after Honda.
I own a 2019 Forester. 35,000 miles bad head gasket already. I must've got a bad one.
@@TheFaintofHearts2113 I agree.
Right after the BMW warranty expires they start breaking down.
Both our Outback and our Forester have proven to be very reliable.
@@s-man3684 WOW, that is odd for a 19.
It still should be covered by the manufacturer warranty.
@@Doc1855
It's considered 4 years old now. Now warranty.
Great video. It was very beneficial to me. Keep up the good work.
Is Toyota & Lexus the same internally? I hope my Toyota hybrid gives me as many trouble free years as my previous Sonata. Bought new in 2008. All I ever did was the routine maintenance on it. Oil change every 6 mos.
I will continue 6 mo oil changes with Toyota even though they say it’s unnecessary 🤷♀️
The Toyota are more reliable than there Lexus counterparts.
Great move. I would do the same 👍
Well, 5k miles or 12 months with synthetic oil, whichever comes first is fine for most uses. however, if you have a lot stop and go traffic and/or colder climate, you can do it more often. I would look at the color of the oil after you change it and as you continue using it. It should be clean and clear (if there are no additives) after the oil change. As it starts to get darker and non-transparent, then you know it is time to change it ever if it is before the scheduled maintenance.
@@RRLV434It’s the same thing. Lexus is Toyota’s high end luxury brand. Some say the engine is bulletproof. Both owned by Toyota Motor Corporation.
RX350 is built on the same platform as the Toyota Highlander. Lexus is the only Toyota I really want because it doesn’t feel like plastic and has the high end interior.
Guys do you recommend a Kia Rio as my first car since I'm a new driver and don't want to get an expensive car first
The BMW 340 is probably what is driving that rating. The engine was so good even the beloved Toyota uses it in their Supra.
What’s better a Honda accord or Lexus? Please reply
Lexus!!!!!!! Honda Accord isn't worth the money or time, I think every car in it's segment easily beats it. Even the Malibu is better than the Crapcord!!! I'm thinking about even selling my Accord for something that is actually interesting like the Camry or Sonata.
Even my dad's Corolla is better than my shitty car!
My old Toyota allways starts in the winter.It can be at minus 25 degrees celsius, and it starts. As long i keep my battery full, it starts. I use my car for 40 000 km or 25 000 miles a year and it have never stopped in Norway in winter, or summer. I pay easy 2 000 dollars more to get a 2008 model of Toyota compare to other brands
Is this a hybrid?
@@Glad2BGolden No, its gas i usually drives
I don't believe for a second BMW is ranked among the best in the industry for reliability.
Toyota started in 2018 to use aluminum 8 speed transmissions in Camry's. Users said that they start having trouble at about 100,000 miles. Turning off the wheel track will help them last longer according to owners.
Thanks
Is not a TOYOTA and LEXUS the same company? I was pleasantly surprised with my hybrid Lexus is so reliable.
This is why I bought my Honda civic. It runs like water✍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
My 1979 BMW 320i (picked up new directly from the BMW factory in Munich) was very reliable BUT that was before the increased use of plastics, computers, and relatively untried and/or over-engineered technologies. It had a manual 4 speed transmission and even had a distributor with breaker points etc. It made a joke of the road-holding and performance of cars produced here in North America at that time, and was thoroughly enjoyable to drive. I thoroughly concur with you that BMW cars are NOT reliable these days - especially over the long term.
As a side note, I have kept my MB 300SDL as a "summer toy", but would never consider buying anything other than Toyota or Lexus. (Providing they get their act together re. development of decent EV's [with Tesla efficiency but Toyota/Lexus quality and longevity] in the coming years.
I had a 1980 BMW 320i and it did 230,000 miles. The body gave out before the engine and transmission.
BMW was a totally different brand in the 70s-80s. The 2002, E21, and E30 generation 3-Series were known to be very reliable. They were well engineered and mechanically simple as you said. Well before the era of globalization kicked in.
What do you think about the new fully electric Lexus RZ? They just announced it on their USA website, take a look. Maybe your dreams about a Tesla with Japanese reliability are going to be fulfilled this year!
@@Electruver The Lexus RZ looks great, however, I'm not impressed by the size of the battery and its likely range. Speed of charging might also be an issue for me.
While I enjoy driving my son's Tesla, I'm now too old a dog to learn new tricks for its non-conventional display/control/screen/systems. BUT the charge network is superb.
BTW, other than my old "bullet-proof" MB toy" I have never kept a car more than 5 years EXCEPT for my 2011 Sienna, bought new, on which I have spent a total of around $300CAD on a single repair - the driver side rear electric sliding door. It still drives like the day I bought it (new) in November 2010.
Great video! I thought the fact that BMW made the list was pretty jaw dropping! However, my biggest surprise Toyota coming first! I feel like they built such an amazing reputation that no one will look at how poorly they are make particular models. Toyota is not worthy of such high praise despite I own 2, neither does Honda, for that matter! I own 2 of them as well. So far the Hondas are doing better the Toyotas make me cringe in disgust!
Good video, now days it is hard to find a brand new car !! 😅
Shari! I was waiting till the end of this video to hear that the BMW was a joke! I expect the third rank from the bottom of the list is for BMW :)
Yeah I just couldn't agree with CR on that one!
I have a 2006 toyota avanza 300,000 km milage..Excellent car
It really frustrates me how many reliability issues American car makers have given that I’m American. I also find it really frustrating that most American car makers make vehicles that are either too big or too lame
4:59 funnily enough i was looking at 340i/m340i listings. a lot of them sell within a month.
0 regrets on my rav4 xse hybrid 21👀
Right? I have a 2020 RAV4 Hybrid XSE and it's so far the most reliable car I've ever owned in my life.
Shari look good and it was a good idea to make this video. Thanks!
Shari, I have a question for you personally. Since Toyota has the best reliability, why did you choose the Mazda as your personal vehicle?
Your Mazda is gorgeous, btw.
Modern Mazdas are also very reliable, and have a more luxury feel, and great driving performance. They also have excellent safety ratings.
He's got a video on it, came down to a much better/more luxurious interior and more sporty vehicle combined w good reliability
It was the styling, driving feel, and luxury touch that gave it an edge for me. All personal preferences I guess. Plus I have enough confidence in Mazda's reputation.
@@carhelpcorner That’s Great.
I don’t know much about Mazda now but when Ford owned a large part of them, they weren’t a very good vehicle.
,@@Doc1855 They are now after breaking up with them.
I hear different opinions on bmw and other German brands. I’m skeptical.
I have the tendency to agree with your comment. But the cost of repairs (mind you not service but repairs) may be eye watering.
My list- Honda, Mazda, Subaru, Bmw, Toyota.
How about GM (government motors and China). They're really good at buying their way to the top.
God stuff! You helped me make up my mind on my next car!
Divine inspiration???
You misspelled Subaru as BMW :) Honestly a solid list.
Post Ford Mazda had a serious glow up.
SO MANY BMW HATERS HERE BUT MY X7 SAY HELLO I AM ON 435K RUNNING STILL GOING ON BUTTERY SMOOTH
Thanks for the video. I wonder why Hyundai & Kia dont make this list. They give 10yr warranty, is that an indication of problems or pride?
I drive a 2016 Kia Sorento, V6 awd. It has been amazingly good in the 120K miles Ive driven it, it still runs like a champ.
My daughter drives a 2013 Hyundai Elantra, 155k miles and it has needed very little to keep it running good.
Hyundai/kia IMO make very good cars.
LETS CONSIDER THE BOTH RELIABILITY AND REPAIRABILITY.
1) how often does something break?
2) how expensive is it to repair?
3) because of the crippled supply chain, what is the delay for getting parts?
4) how difficult is it to get a repair under warranty? do you get the run around, gas lighted: "thats normal"
i have an audi a5, had to do major repairs on the turbo and timing chain because of poor engineering design. paid out of pocket, BUT then was partially compensated in a class action lawsuit. it burns an oz of oil every 50 miles.
i like the car. may well replace it with another a5, but also purchase an extended warranty.
How expensive are Mazda 3 parts
I love your videos man
Thank you!
The type of people that subscribe to Consumer Reports and fill out surveys likely only keep a vehicle for 100 thousand miles then trade it in, so fewer are writing about reliability at 200 to 300 thousand miles. Especially if they overpay for a BMW. Mechanics say they have a lot of problems as they get older. Look at what taxi companies buy, although they are more about short trips so often choose a hybrid for better gas mileage, and helping to pay for any big battery and generator problems later.
No mention of turbo powered models?
Some of these 2023 models are new cars designs engine such as Honda crv 1.5 turbo, and there is no data , How do you know it's reliable ?????
Hi Shari @carhelpcorner question for you… what would be your top 5 brands for reliability in order?
I agree with the order of CR minus BMW. In fifth place would either be Acura or Subaru.
Toyota
Mazda
Honda
Lexus
End of the list
Mazda should be higher. It's definitely as good or better than Toyota and Lexus now.
They’re fords
@@Quinton0520 even when they were affiliated with Ford a decade ago they were far better than a Ford. It's been a decade, they've improved leaps and bounds from then. Meanwhile Toyota is only starting to stutter.
@@potentatewags I still don’t trust em I heard they’re janky
@@Quinton0520 nah, my wife has an 09 Mazda 6 and it still drives great. I'm concerned on Toyota that thereve been issues with their newer engines as of late
@Quinton Godfrey hell no. My 6 has 160,000 miles and still drives well with no problems
Well It'll seem that my choice of transportation is the sensible choice. I own a Rav4 prime and a Lexus CT200h. They just go on an on, and I only see the dealership for the regular maintenance
Honda should be higher on the list. My sister's Honda Element is still going strong after 12 years
My 2010 Camry...135k, hasn't quit on me yet!!!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩
Do you have oil consumption problems?
@@johnnylightning1967 Not a drop lost.... The 2.4 engine used up to until 2009 had the bad pistons... they went to a 2.5l engine in 2010 and solved the oil-burning issue...😄😄😄😄
@@gwats19577 My Son had a 2009 Camry 2.4 , bought it with 140,000 , has had the issue with oil consumption , a quart every tank full . Ran great but got expensive . Slowed it down abut with Lucas oil. Just sold it , and now has 2.5 L 2020 sonata. Thanks for responding
BMW IS A BAG OF NAILS !
BMW is actually a good vehicle when you have the warranty included. I would never buy without low miles and good warranty.
Toyota and Honda for sure…
Great Review Shari.
I’m sure everyone who’s had to replace their 1.4 turbo Honda Engine.
Why there is such discrepancy between consumer report and JD power
Consumer Reports is based on feedback from consumers. JDPower is based on whoever pays most, I guess.
JD does "initial quality" reports, for one. Long term is what most care about.
@@frankanderson4176 JD power has this dependability study and claims that kia and Hyundai are more “dependable” than Toyota
Lexus & Toyota are total reliability, and very high resale. BMW must’ve paid CR to be on the list there’s no way BMW would make the top 15. FYI any manufacturer can be number one on JD powers list of they pay enough money. Years ago, JD powers said the most reliable vehicle is a Dodge. I guess he is now taking payments to be on their list.
I wish someone in my family had enough sense to direct me towards more reliable cars in my youth. Would have saved me thousands of dollars in expensive repairs. Most of these cars are nothing but money pits after the warranty ends. I feel good now that I am researching and reading experiences from Honda and Toyota owners.
To me lexus haven't been Reliable, 22 ls 350, first break down throttle control. Second oil filter case,
Hi Shari, great video and I love the fact you said you talk to local mechanics instead of just relying on Consumer Reports. Personally, I have seen CR have rated reliability incorrectly in the past. Also, I am surprised Honda made the list and not surprised that Acura, Nissan and Infiniti did not make the list. I would like to see GM hitting this list in future especially when they keep making amazing high end SUVs and the New Corvette.
Nissan - Infiniti did not surprise me. A few years ago it would’ve made sense for them to be on the list, however, build quality isn’t exactly the most stellar when compared to Toyota. These two companies are probably just below the top 5.
I just bought a Toyota Vios.
It looks good.
Lexus sounds cool but it’s quite expensive plus the fact that there are only SUV not cars like the Toyota Yaris 🤔
BMW = Bought My Way into that list
Nice 1. Very thoughtful.
If you're really good at maintaining a vehicle, a Corolla will last 250K-325K easily. Base price is around $22,000.
I did hear that the Bmw’s 2017 and up are way more reliable, not counting long term ownership of course.
Sure hope it counts long term ownership though. Being reliable for only short term isn't reliable in my books, especially if it's within warranty period.
Not counting long-term ownership is bullshit🤣Newer cars with low milesshould have less issues by default. Cars should be made throwaway/constant problem-generators after 100k or whatever miles. They should be judged by long-term ownership for the most part.
@@MagicNash89 I agree this is why I’m hesitant about the macan and cayenne
All car makers have had issues with certain years and models. E.g., VCM on the Honda V6 engines (2009 and later Honda Pilots, 2014 and later Acuras), 1.5L turbo engines in the 2016-2017 Honda Civic/Honda CRV (oil dilution), Toyota 2007-2011 engines that had bad piston rings and started burning oil if not properly cared for. CR is overall a good starting point though.
As the fortunate owner of a 2021 Mazda6 Signature I am dismayed, no.. I'm irked that BMW would even be in the same list as a Mazda. Earlier this year I traded a 2020 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab SV 4X4 for the Mazda6. Trucks are fun but just not that practical of a daily for the average person. I dont haul lumber or gravel, I dont own a towable boat anymore, I dont need the constant aggravation of parking and jumping (literally) into and out of a truck. Im an old man, I want something thats still fun but also practical and super comfy. You cant beat the '21 Mazda6 Signature for the money, and I believe it'll hold its value well being the final year. Dont worry, my office is about 8 minutes of backroads from my house. The miles will stay down :)
On this list, should the BMW actually should have been Subaru instead?
apparently subaru took a fall from grace
CVT transmission problems
Honda, Toyota, Mazda, Suzuki
I think toyota and Lexus sacrifices their car performance and handling, in exchange for stability and reliability. I might argue they have over done it, you need to push gas pedal down twice for it to reach highway speed...
Trucks tend to be last on every list, but people love them.
Shari literally states that he disagrees with BMW on this list.
I don't understand the comments
But he didn't put it there on the list, he is not being criticized for this here, what's not to understand here?
From my perspective its still the Japanese Car Brands, Toyota, Honda, and Mazda
What do you think about Honda pairing with GMC for future vehicles?
Probably the beginning of the end.
Mazda’s reliability went way, way, up when the dropped Ford, and that BMW reliability joke, is really gotta be a joke, they’re junk ! A great review nonetheless.