To me this isn't a tragic downfall. This is a triumphant recovery. Most people would be unable to recover from what he went through. This man found away to use it to revive his career. My hats off to him.
Vin is a great person with a nice heart. Super humbling story from working at Starbucks to being on the Bucks coaching staff and being a great mentor to Giannis. I had the chance to meet Vin and chat with him
Vin Baker does have an interesting career. Yeah I heard about this guy a few times like when he was an All-Star and the guy who fill in the void left by Shawn Kemp in Seattle. Additionally, this guy was such a huge part on the Milwaukee Bucks on their 2021 title team. Nice one Andy.
I’m a hartford student athlete but I didn’t know much about him until this video. He’s the greatest athlete to come from our school and we have a locked up case of his awards, newspapers, and nba jerseys in our athletic center. One of my friends got to meet him on a zoom call and they said that he’s a really great guy
"For me to summon the strength to walk out here and get excited about retail management at Starbucks and try to provide for my family, I feel that's more heroic than being 6-11 with a fade-away jump shot." Only someone that has been up, down and got back up can come up with such a grounded, honest statement. Often we looked up to these NBA stars like celebrity with envy and Mr. Baker appreciates being the everyday hardworking citizen supporting his family. Thank you Andy for highlighting such a great quote, and shinning light to an awesome bounce back story.
I remember that kemp-Baker trade (obviously more complicated trade). But I was shocked that Sonics gave away Kemp. I was a kid in Serbia and all news I got was from basketball dedicated newspaper. And i really didn't know much about Baker. I knew about Kemp as I watched 96 finals. Next season I was following what Baker is doing in Seattle (Bring Sonics back!).. Fine first impressions.. Aaaand he fell off :)
Yinka Dare sighting at 1:45 (big-time Nets draft bust who prematurely died almost 20 years ago). And props for pronouncing niche correctly instead of the ear-raping “nitch” I always hear.
Having lived in Seattle during the 90s, I would be lying if I said I wasn't resentful toward Vin Baker when he played for the Sonics. Shawn Kemp was my favorite Sonic and I was saddened he asked for a trade and got it in 1997.
It's nice to see videos of big men from the 80s and 90s. They played in the post back then. Today, 7' guys stagger out to the 3 point line like an injured gazelle.
I haven't thought about Vin Baker in years. Glad he was able to turn his life around, surviving something like that and being able to thrive after moving past it is worthy of respect.
Andy, can you make a video about Baron Davis, he is a very interesting player since he suffered injuries all the way since highschool and even got a ACL injury which wouldve ended his career in college yet he turned out into a star despite him wearing a knee brace and favoring his other leg at times even with those injuries he never lost his reputation of being one of the most explosive and exciting players of the 2000s
yh nowadays ppl only remember him for his poster on kirilenko (one of the best defenders at his prime) but he was more than that, he posterized players like garnett aswell lmao
Baker was one of my favorites as a teen. I loved his game and likened him to Ewing but with a bit less defensive prowess. I was so glad when I saw him hug after their championship. Glad he's doing better. At one point I even hought of naming my son Vin....lol
I actually almost thought this was one of those “how good was X player actually” videos But yeah I didn’t even know things about Vin Baker myself personally
He had an interesting career and good bounce back in life. Also wondering, If he was with the Bucks since 2018, then he would probably give Butler's coffee a run for its money during the bubble.
Amazing story. I remember Vin Baker with the Sonics around 99 or 2000. It was a weird game on NBC where he played just terrible and the announcers were talking about his substance abuse issues live. Glad to see him doing good all these years later
Baker is mostly remembered in replacing Shawn Kemp in Seattle on a 3-way trade deal, and is the same efficient player compared to his 4-yr Bucks stint.
I remember Vin when he played for the Bucks he had game real smooth .I find it Ironic that he fell off when he went to Seattle . $ean Kemp was a hard act to follow . Both of them suffered from addiction and Their Potentials were wasted.. Thank God they Bounced Back in the end .. 💰 Money only amplify the Madness
Good content! Growing up I wanted to shoot just like Vin Baker. I'm glad to see that Vin Baker has recovered from his past battle with alcohol addiction.
Never really heard of Baker before, my interest in basketball only started later in the mid 2000 'when he basically was out of the league. But to me it sounds like a good bounce back story, young players/ ppl in general can learn from! Your videos are great Andy! The storytelling and editing, I'm really liking it! You're one of my favorite youtubers! ❤
I loved Vin Baker during his NBA stint and knew of his problems even during that time. I'm so happy for him he got through all that ordeal and made a good comeback inspiring others.
My ultimate respect for this guy……so damn awesome how he recovered his life in the end…they should make a movie of his life to show people with similar demons that their is light at the end of the tunnel 💪💪💪👏👏
I was a huge Sonics fan and I loved seeing him play! HE WAS GOOD! The trade for Shawn Kemp is very similar to Jr. being traded for Mike Cameron. Both trades turned out great but Vins ended badly, but Seattle still loves you Vinny! GODSPEED
Mark Aguirre deserves to be in the Hall of fame. First Mexican-American to have great success, multiple HS and college player of the year awards, all-final four team, was a great freshman back when freshmen struggled mightily, 2 championships, many years of over 20 ppg, on and on. His coaching success only helps.
Vin Baker wasn't really outsized at the center position. Nearly 7 ft tall was still mostly above average during that era. Of course he was smaller than somebody like Shaq but so was everyone else. He dominated at the mid-range because he was a good shooter not because he was small.
I remember vince well, i had his jordan pro strong sneakers, one of the best bball sneakers i ever played in. To bad his career never got to where it should have been.
Growing up in Seattle in still mad they traded kemp for baker essentially.... Not gonna get over it till Seattle has a team again. Props to vin for conquering his demons.
I doubt he “lost” all of that money. He seems like a good soul. I bet most of it went to friends, family and people he trusted to manage it that blew right through it.
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To me this isn't a tragic downfall. This is a triumphant recovery. Most people would be unable to recover from what he went through. This man found away to use it to revive his career. My hats off to him.
Totally agree, yes he blew his money but I am 100% sure he is much happier now then when he was a star
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The fact he was able to average 20 and 10 in the 90’s while being drunk makes it even more impressive to me
More players than you realize were under the influence while playing in the 90s.
😂😂😂
@@thisnewnamesystemisdumb it was not a big deal back then among players pro and amateur
That was basically a requirement in the 60s and 70s lol so many players missed games with bad hangovers
@thisnewnamesystemisdumb stop!. That is not what 1990 NBA was about. Name these many players.....
Vin Baker apparently was also struggling with depression and let’s remember that mental health awareness was just not a thing back in those days
Yea because you new age sissy’s take everything personal
He was struggling with drinking, that was giving him depression.
Its still not a thing today outside of internet talking points lol
@@Zhaturianvisionznow it is, but sadly not nearly enough to solve the problem, we as society are just at step 1
Boo hoo I’m in the NBA what the heck was his problem?
Vin is a great person with a nice heart. Super humbling story from working at Starbucks to being on the Bucks coaching staff and being a great mentor to Giannis. I had the chance to meet Vin and chat with him
Wilson! Your takes are unfiltered and brutal. Love em!
Working a regular job after a great career isn't a tragedy.
True it's sad, but it seems it had a good ending
If your "great career" involved you earning millions of dollars per year then yes it is
The tragedy is losing millions of dollars..
@@ballinboxer3676no cause quite a few that fell off that bad either died or full on addicts
@@Bigedub101 okay? Just because some people got it worse doesn’t mean it’s not bad
Vin Baker does have an interesting career. Yeah I heard about this guy a few times like when he was an All-Star and the guy who fill in the void left by Shawn Kemp in Seattle. Additionally, this guy was such a huge part on the Milwaukee Bucks on their 2021 title team. Nice one Andy.
Lowkey forgot he was an assistant coach
carried the bucks coaching staff during the 2021 finals run while budenholzer was drinking and being dumb again
Unfortunately, addiction was also part of Shawn Kemps life. Shawn Kemp is one of my all time favorite players!
Vin Baker with Bucks & Sonics was a beast. Good to see him still in the league coaching the Bucks
96 he played all 82 games and dropped 21-10
If i were a GM & had Vin Baker, Glen Robinson, & Ray Allen on my roster, there's no way i'm breaking that core up.
@@the503creepout7Fr. Only reason that isn't seen as a complete disaster was because of Baker's issues.
I’m a hartford student athlete but I didn’t know much about him until this video. He’s the greatest athlete to come from our school and we have a locked up case of his awards, newspapers, and nba jerseys in our athletic center. One of my friends got to meet him on a zoom call and they said that he’s a really great guy
I’d really like to meet Vin Baker some day
"For me to summon the strength to walk out here and get excited about retail management at Starbucks and try to provide for my family, I feel that's more heroic than being 6-11 with a fade-away jump shot." Only someone that has been up, down and got back up can come up with such a grounded, honest statement. Often we looked up to these NBA stars like celebrity with envy and Mr. Baker appreciates being the everyday hardworking citizen supporting his family.
Thank you Andy for highlighting such a great quote, and shinning light to an awesome bounce back story.
A perennial 20 and 10 guy who was a force with the bucks. So sad to hear about his downfall. Glad he turned it around.
From Bucks through Starbucks to Bucks again, what a career. Bless him
How does someone go through that amount of money in only a couple of years?
I remember that kemp-Baker trade (obviously more complicated trade). But I was shocked that Sonics gave away Kemp. I was a kid in Serbia and all news I got was from basketball dedicated newspaper. And i really didn't know much about Baker. I knew about Kemp as I watched 96 finals. Next season I was following what Baker is doing in Seattle (Bring Sonics back!).. Fine first impressions.. Aaaand he fell off :)
Always used to choose Vin Baker on Total NBA 98 haha
He was David West before David West but more athletic
i did remember Baker but he quickly faded but at least hr bounce back from his addiction
Honestly, respect to Vin for bouncing back from alcohol addiction problems, and happy for him that he won a chip as an assistant coach for the Bucks.
Yeah, glad he was able to win that chip as an assistant too
Yinka Dare sighting at 1:45 (big-time Nets draft bust who prematurely died almost 20 years ago). And props for pronouncing niche correctly instead of the ear-raping “nitch” I always hear.
Having lived in Seattle during the 90s, I would be lying if I said I wasn't resentful toward Vin Baker when he played for the Sonics. Shawn Kemp was my favorite Sonic and I was saddened he asked for a trade and got it in 1997.
He's doing fine now, Bucks assistant coach and won a ring too.
What a story. He was a special player. Glad to know Vin is doing great.
It's nice to see videos of big men from the 80s and 90s. They played in the post back then. Today, 7' guys stagger out to the 3 point line like an injured gazelle.
I haven't thought about Vin Baker in years. Glad he was able to turn his life around, surviving something like that and being able to thrive after moving past it is worthy of respect.
Andy, can you make a video about Baron Davis, he is a very interesting player since he suffered injuries all the way since highschool and even got a ACL injury which wouldve ended his career in college yet he turned out into a star despite him wearing a knee brace and favoring his other leg at times even with those injuries he never lost his reputation of being one of the most explosive and exciting players of the 2000s
I think this would make for good content
Just imagine him without injuries, HOF candidate for sure. Especially his charlotte and we believe warriors days
Idkk
Baron was a very exciting explosive player
yh nowadays ppl only remember him for his poster on kirilenko (one of the best defenders at his prime) but he was more than that, he posterized players like garnett aswell lmao
Wow. Had no idea Vin was even back in the league. Super cool story
Never knew who Vin was!! Thanks Andy!!
Baker was one of my favorites as a teen. I loved his game and likened him to Ewing but with a bit less defensive prowess. I was so glad when I saw him hug after their championship. Glad he's doing better. At one point I even hought of naming my son Vin....lol
He was like the Jermaine O'Neal of the 90's
All I remember was, before Ray Allen, it was Vin Baker.
Vin Baker was a waking double double fan player to watch!
I actually almost thought this was one of those “how good was X player actually” videos
But yeah I didn’t even know things about Vin Baker myself personally
All of the nba guys I’ve never heard of like this guy or that guy on the bullets, are really solid hoopers
Always knew he was a stud but I didn’t know he was that good
Before he became an alcoholic, Vin Baker was a very strong NBA player.
He is a forgotten star player.
One of the most underrated players ever
He had an interesting career and good bounce back in life. Also wondering, If he was with the Bucks since 2018, then he would probably give Butler's coffee a run for its money during the bubble.
Vin Baker with Sonics and Bucks was a BEAST 💪💪💪
Thanks for the video Andy. Honestly never heard of Vin baker before. Keep up the good work✌️
Vin possibly should’ve been the new Bucks coach after the firing of Budenholzer
Amazing to think that this guy was so talented that he could play under the influence and still be among the best in the world. Insane.
Just like Chris Mullin
Glad I found this channel so I can see vids of my fav players as a kid!
Stories of redemption are just wonderful
Amazing story. I remember Vin Baker with the Sonics around 99 or 2000. It was a weird game on NBC where he played just terrible and the announcers were talking about his substance abuse issues live. Glad to see him doing good all these years later
Ben Simons will join this list in future
Thank you @Andy Hoops. I had been wondering where Baker is for quite some time. Man what a story! I am glad he was able to turn his life around.
Oh yeah!! Another great Andy video!! Thanks!!
Very interesting great research as always
Thanks for the amazing video on Vin Baker Andy my dude !!!!!!
This guys a beast in 2k
Yep always got draft him in those Jordan era sims
Baker is mostly remembered in replacing Shawn Kemp in Seattle on a 3-way trade deal, and is the same efficient player compared to his 4-yr Bucks stint.
I remember Vin when he played for the Bucks he had game real smooth .I find it Ironic that he fell off when he went to Seattle . $ean Kemp was a hard act to follow . Both of them suffered from addiction and Their Potentials were wasted.. Thank God they Bounced Back in the end .. 💰 Money only amplify the Madness
Great video and awesome story
Imagine him as a vet on a contender
Great video! Awesome job!
Good content! Growing up I wanted to shoot just like Vin Baker. I'm glad to see that Vin Baker has recovered from his past battle with alcohol addiction.
Never really heard of Baker before, my interest in basketball only started later in the mid 2000 'when he basically was out of the league. But to me it sounds like a good bounce back story, young players/ ppl in general can learn from!
Your videos are great Andy! The storytelling and editing, I'm really liking it! You're one of my favorite youtubers! ❤
Crackin a cold one and watchin andy hoops 👆🏼💯
One of my favourite players in the 90's. 🇵🇭
This guy was so good at the time, that I thought getting him for Kemp was an upgrade! Glad to see Vin succeeding in life once again
I loved Vin Baker during his NBA stint and knew of his problems even during that time. I'm so happy for him he got through all that ordeal and made a good comeback inspiring others.
Enjoyed watching Vin Baker as a kid. Sad to see him fall off.
Typical amongst his demographic
All’s well that ends well💯
Wow, I never knew Vin was an alcoholic and lost it all! I'm glad to see he's doing a lot better now.
My ultimate respect for this guy……so damn awesome how he recovered his life in the end…they should make a movie of his life to show people with similar demons that their is light at the end of the tunnel 💪💪💪👏👏
A wonderful story excellently narrated
one of my NBA Card Collection in the 90's!
I was a huge Sonics fan and I loved seeing him play! HE WAS GOOD! The trade for Shawn Kemp is very similar to Jr. being traded for Mike Cameron. Both trades turned out great but Vins ended badly, but Seattle still loves you Vinny! GODSPEED
Mark Aguirre deserves to be in the Hall of fame. First Mexican-American to have great success, multiple HS and college player of the year awards, all-final four team, was a great freshman back when freshmen struggled mightily, 2 championships, many years of over 20 ppg, on and on. His coaching success only helps.
Yk him if you play NBA 2K Eras and start in the Shaq Era
Vin Baker was a bad dude in his prime
also pretty notorious on the court
In one frame, there is a background newspapers article with the title "Scored 41 stoned". Amazing.
In his prime man he was amazing sad to see his story
salute to this man. The first time I hear his name is through my father.
Vin Baker wasn't really outsized at the center position. Nearly 7 ft tall was still mostly above average during that era. Of course he was smaller than somebody like Shaq but so was everyone else. He dominated at the mid-range because he was a good shooter not because he was small.
Glenn robinson and vin baker was a beast back in the 90s
One of my childhood stars.
Great life comeback.
do more!
He discussed his downfall and recovery on the iconic Sonics podcast as well as an interview recently on TH-cam
Love U Andy
Sam Perkins is a cheat code in 2k no one thinks he can shoot out then I put up a 3 with him and it goes in 😂😂😂
Great story!
I remember vince well, i had his jordan pro strong sneakers, one of the best bball sneakers i ever played in. To bad his career never got to where it should have been.
Former owner of Sonic's gave him job in starbucks, who is founder of starbucks
I wouldn't say his career has been a tragedy, but not really a complete success either. It's volatile and now it's in a very respectable spot.
He was one of my favorite players when I was a kid.
Great redemption story!
Growing up in Seattle in still mad they traded kemp for baker essentially.... Not gonna get over it till Seattle has a team again.
Props to vin for conquering his demons.
He was part of the 2000 US Gold Medal Team
A 7 year $86million contract for the 90s Era is equivalent to a $250 million dollar contract franchise players salary today.
Averaged 20 points per game in a league with the slowest pace, toughest defense, with legitimate shot blocking centers, while being drunk 😂
honestly i first heard of Vin Baker in a throwaway line on the tv show Frasier
Wow what an amazing story
Jaylen Brown your next video Andy Hoops 😤😤😤😤😤
You should do a video on Rik Smits
VB was my Guy.. Underrated to All-Star. My man did his Shit.
When he played for the Celtics he was known as 'Gin' Baker
I doubt he “lost” all of that money. He seems like a good soul. I bet most of it went to friends, family and people he trusted to manage it that blew right through it.
Sheesh, I can barely walk around when I'm drunk. I couldn't imagine playing basketball as hard as I can while drunk.
My only memoey of Vin Baker is when he won the Gold Medal at the Sydney Olympic Games
I remember when he was with the Celtics! Love him!
I remember seeing a BTM video on him and I had to watch his highlights and he was a good player in Seattle.
Vin got his ring