It is more important than anything, when you’re a crewmember of these cruiseships and you have to lost your job, your career is in limbo and depleting amount of money in the bank!
Even though the industry has all this money, they still tried to convince the US Congress to help them out. Congress informed the Industry that they would be happy to help any US ships . None of the Ship are based in the US. If they were , they have to obey US labor laws . And no Cruise Company could afford to stay in business . So the US Government told them to talk to the governments of the Home Ports of the ships .
I was part of this. Its hard to tell the whole story of us crew members, especially the ones who stayed on board. I did 55 days and this comes close to painting a picture. It's very surreal to see my job in one of your videos. I did find it amusing that you never actually showed the Panorama despite mentioning it twice lol. Thanks for another great video. Hoping to get back to sea soon!
@@Telencephelon I'm also a crew member, my company stopped paying me once they realized the pandemic wasn't going to blow over quickly. Might have been different for other companies though
Heard there was a cruise ship jam at Manilia Bay as the mostly-Filipino crew were waiting for the Phillippine government to finish processing their CoViD test results (they had to test negative before getting off I remember)
Must be so surreal to be one of a couple hundred people on a floating hotel designed to host thousands, knowing that you're being sailed halfway around the world just so your company can drop off you and a dozen of your compatriots.
I know right! Those vessels are so huge that even with 99 other people, it may take a while before you run into one. They are like a miniature floating city.
I was on a ship with about 350 of us stranded for 7 weeks or so. Was very strange, but what was weirder was being allowed to use the hottubs etc (before social distancing was put into full force)
I work at a summer camp, imagine a place filled with hundreds of happy and laughing kids being totally empty. No water slides running, no swing noises, no splashing in the pool, no campfire songs... it was just sad
i was following a woman, Captain Kate , From the celebrity cruises, and it was ...weird. SHe said there were 25 people on a ship that normally had 400 crew and 2000 passengers. CRAZY!!! She had her puppy thought at least
How much did they pay these 10,000 staff on these 7 ships on their "free trip home" ? The 'foreign flag' is the legal loophole all oceanic shipping survive under. Consider the Rhosus (ship that brought ammonium nitrate to Beirut).
All those companies care is profits and their shareholders. They could provide good wages and health benefits for all their workers and company would benefit as well. But it costs money to keep paying workers and alive I guess and dollar is above human being these days.
@@Conundrum425 These companies would literally cease to exist if they had to pay all their employees with no revenue whatsoever, I’m not saying it’s a good practice but I’d rather have lots of jobs lost in the short term over having no industry to return to after Covid-19. Though they really should treat employees during normal operations like you said.
@@AFoxGuy yet they had huge amounts of money stored away when they had to stop doing business. did you even listen? imagine defending horrible business practices and greed.
We have like 5 cruise liners off the coast where I live (Cyprus) the entirety of covid. I always wake up to see them just floating there wondering how much money they bleed.
It has been fascinating living in Southampton as we have more cruise ship movements than ever servicing all the ships moored off the coast, usually movements would only be peak season Fridays and Saturdays but now its every day of the week. Particular highlight was watching both Queen Mary II and Queen Victoria sail off together on a Monday afternoon in February
Rory Jardine - But don't those ships kind of clutter up the beautiful scenery? Of course, the Queen Mary ll & Queen Victoria would be completely different, they're beautiful ships and seeing the other standard cruise ships would be cool too but I just hope they aren't going to use this port as a parking lot for cruise ships, lol...I love your country, it's very beautiful.😊
@@isabellind1292 the same ships come and go, so you could say they are part of the scenery! I've quite enjoyed seeing the frequency of their arrival but I do hope they restart passenger service soon
Some cruise lines didn't collect up all their ships in one floating offshore zone. Some sent them to ports - including some ports *way* off the beaten track. I am fortunate enough to live near Eastport, Maine, USA where the Oceania Riviera was docked for many months, and went to go see the ship. The cruise ship is large enough to take the whole town's population on board, with room left over, so it was rather impressive to see it at the waterfront, towering over even the church steeples. And while there, the ship was paying 1/10th the docking fees of a major city, and mostly paid the debt on the recent expansion of the dock to be able to handle ships that large, so the town was pretty happy to host the ship.
That must be an incredibly wild situation to be on one of those cruise ships, sitting in a cluster off the shore, hanging out there for a year. I'd love to hear more about that. I wonder if any of them are making youtube diaries or anything.
ok they had 26 now have 23 sold 4 should that not be 22 or did they buy 1 ship when you look at the money they make from only 26 ship it look impressive.
@@antsbradley Several discount cruise lines sent their old ships to the scrappers and replaced them with second hand ships from the mainstream cruise lines that they bought at a substantial discount to what they would normally pay.
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@@KBNYS 500,000 i s not upsetting when there are 388 MILLIOIN Americans in the United States. So in essence only 0.001% of the American population died. Comparetively speaking that is not enough people, especially to shut down the American economy. I can understand if 1/4 or 1/2 of the American population died, but basically it is unrealistic to think that no one will die from a virus, not Covid or the flu a year. Shutting down the economy was the stupidest thing ever, which caused massive unemployment for years to come for only 500,000 people.
I feel sorry for you and all the people who are struggling now, the sisease is nothing, but the outrageous actions taken by governments is horrible to billions of people(while the disease is a little bit more dangerous than flu and has been lethal to only a minority of people.
@@Changeworld408 although i agree with you partially, we simply cannot risk passing this disease around like wildfire. If the disease evolves or adapts inside stronger human bodies, it may just simply complicate things futher.
As a person who works on cruise ships (I'm one of the rare Canadians that works on ships 😛) I really appreciate you telling the story of what happened after the guests got off the ships!
@@vilextone8031 hah yeah, there's tons of nationalities that work on cruise ships. I have friends from all around the world that I've met through work. And the pay is actually pretty good depending on the economic status of your country. Like $1500 USD is a lot in the philippines... Or so I'm told. I'm not sure how far $1500 can go in the philippines so I'm not really an expert
@@Kris_G That money can pay for a whole school semester in the Philippines. It’s big enough. I know someone who was able to buy a house in a good neighborhood with that much cruise money in the country
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This is probably the most rounded video video you've done so far. You approach the issue from all different aspects, give a broader view of what's happened. Well done.
I was on board at that time, but missed the free cruise because my ship happened to be at my home country already. Bummer hahaha. My friends who stayed, however, seemed to have had a good time. The living conditions during that time were even better than normal. With no passengers on board, they had little to no work and were free to use some of the ship's services - in my ship, everyone had an individual, fully equipped passenger suite (with balcony!) for that period. Also, spending long stretches of time on board is normal, so those 2 months of travel weren't nearly as stressful as they may have sounded. For job security, during that travel they were all on payroll, on top of that, we weren't really laid off and as soon as this passes we will be hired back, as the industry recovers. From the comments here, I see that people have a really bad image of work and living conditions on board, but they are not bad at all. I definitely wish I had been forced to extend my stay for a two months trip like that.
Jonas, Do you recollect the time frame of getting staff to their home countries? At the time there was little/no air lift available anywhere let alone for thousands of staff. You are right that its bad being laid off but how many friends in all our cities were too? The good thing is the cruise lines will be ramping up in phases and these people will have jobs to go back to. The sad part was the quick pic of the closed Ketchikan stores, Nobody is talking about the job losses/economic losses in port cities at least in the US.....
I live in the Portland, Oregon area. There is a coastal town called Astoria about an hour away that has just gotten the facilities for cruise ships, nothing huge. However, there were 10 cruise ships anchored because of the shut down. It was a big deal because no one from around here had ever seen that many large vessels in one place before.
Please . No! We’ve already watched enough videos on how a woman drew a peni$ and balls in the sea then crashed a ship. How much more videos about that can we watch ?
I worked on a cruise ship as an American citizen during the shutdown. I was stuck onboard for a month off the coast of Florida, we could port in Florida but no one was allowed off for any reason (unless immediate medical attention was needed and then they couldn’t get back on). We knew we wouldn’t be sailing with guests anytime soon but the CDC wouldn’t allow us off to get personal supplies from the store. I couldn’t even get off to go to my car in the parking lot to drive twenty minutes down the road to my home.
I was one of the stranded crew! The company was great with us generally, but a lot of the independent contractors got screwed (art auctioneers, etc) by their own companies. One of my mates was effectively told this, and kinda had to be adopted by the cruiseline for repatriation at no cost.
@@ruthharvey4158 I can't imagine what it would be like to be an independent contractor in a time like this. Job security is at the lowest it's ever been.
The amount of stranded workers would be roughly on par with the size of many of the national militaries in the Caribbean. As badly as cruise lines generally treat their workers, I think those ships were taking people home one way or another :P
My dad and brother work on a popular cruise line. Both have been out of work for over a year. My brother was stranded on his ship until May, when he finally got a flight back here to Canada.
I have been looking for a comment like yours for so long. Cruise ships are made of materials that cause damage to your body and one cruise ship map I looked at and a lot of the boat is underwater and it kills big sea animals and no one notices. Cruise ships also damage the enviorment when scrapped and the cruise industry was recently caught DUMPING PLASTIC RIGHT INTO THE OCEAN so I told my parents that cruise ships are evil and they seem to agree.
There's also the fact they switch to the most polluting fuel ever a few miles from port so the pollution levels on the top deck are beyond what you find in major cities. Also, there's been so many cases where serious crimes have been committed against other passengers, yet the culprit has been allowed to simply walk off the ship by the crew. All they care about is money.
@@isabellind1292 The fact that cruise ships dumped sewage into the ocean at all is unacceptable and causes perminant damage to ecosystems. I was on a cruise ship once and I got so sick and needed an injection to stop the symptoms. Cruise ships were filthy even before Covid existed.
Well. Good explanation. However in the case of Hurtigruten's Roald Amundsen. I live in Norway and in the news here the uncovered that the crew as you stated comes from lower waged county and they didn't quarantine property. Some testet before traveling to Norway. The didn't test when arrivals and actually had there quarantine onboard the ship while working among passengers. The management of Hurtigruten tried to cover the whole thing up.
Great video. One thing that I wished you covered was that it was not "smooth sailing" for every cruise company. There was half a dozen smaller cruise companies that folded in 2020, the largest was CMV-Cruise and Maritime Voyages. In July 2020, the parent company SQTL (South Quay Travel & Leisure Ltd) went into administration / bankruptcy; leaving the fate of employees, their five ships (plus one they were in the process of purchasing) and the passenger's fares in the great unknown.
Fascinating - having worked in large organizations my entire life, I knew that simply stopping the servicing & sending home a "customer base" was only the tip of the iceberg when cruise companies had to shutter this time two years ago. I especially marveled at the solution Carnival used to shuttle their fleet's personnel home from the Caribbean - remarkable; I would love to know what the life of crew members was like during those sailings (especially Filipino employees whose "shuttle" took the longest)?
If the government suddenly announce and mandate a restriction in the number of youtube channels that one could subscribe to, this would be one of the channels I'd give up. The research, insights, and overall effort in producing this video is just...top notch.
Cold places and cruises are a recipe for disease and I don't know how you can be so ignorant to support cruises despite how they have been caught dumping plastic right into the ocean. Stop supporting this.
Could you do a similar video regarding the live entertainment industry- concerts, conventions and corporate events, theatre, and festivals? It was one of the first industries to shut down and will most likely be the last to fully recover. Hundreds of thousands employed in this sector, and yet if the job is done right, no one knows we are there.
Alaska is going to have a rough recovery because Canada banned all cruise ships and the Jones act requires any non-US flagged vessel to hit an international port as part of their itinerary. This is why Ensenada, Victoria, and Vancouver are such popular ports. (and Bahamas and Bermuda for "day" sails out of Florida)
@@daphnebliss-rosval4309 If the US had enough skilled sailors to crew ships maybe they would. But US flagged vessels also have to use US crews. That is a bigger issue than the taxes. (and there are construction issues as well)
@David Davison Actually they are related but its not the ONLY reason. If they are registered in Bahamas they can hire anyone in the world. The US is protective and restrictive. Pay isn't the ONLY issue - (BTW, there ARE several US flagged cruise ships based in Hawaii so they can pay enough and find crews if they have to) Then there are the safety code issues. US uses a different code than pretty much the rest of the world (the Coast Guard developed their own.) So you pretty much have to BUILD the ship here to get US flagged - or file for an exemption. Things like door widths and what is considered an emergency escape. Some cases the US is more strict and sometimes the International code is. But OFTEN you can't comply with them BOTH. This is why the US developed the Marshall Islands as a more "US Centric" flag of convenience. The US doesn't exactly play well with others. But usually the officers (customer facing) are US/UK/Canadian for the US market and tend to be paid better than the janitor. (that is pretty much in ANY industry)
@@insectbite1714 that's another conversation entirely, this is more about what things cruise companies can do to stay afloat (pun intended) while they're shut down
Don’t really have a lot of sympathy for them considering how they treat their employees and that on billions of dollars of revenue they pay less taxes than 16 years olds working summer jobs
@@memyself4616 I only one company, but it doesnt matter as those people can do what they want with those money and it's better when goverments have money to spend on people
Most those employed in the cruise industry are from third world countries, and are foreign flagged. There are usually leas than a handful of americans employed on cruise ships Whataboutism are just proof ypu have no arguement. What about the hundreds of rapes, thousands of assualts, tens of thousands of thefts and the 10-15 people a year that vanish off cruise ships at sea huh?
@@norml.hugh-mann Do because they are from third world or eastern Europe not from Ammeeericaaa they need those jobs less? In large cities there are also a lot of crimes, so close cities?
I was in Aruba last week and spotted the Norwegian Sky tied up at the terminal. The cabbies said they had been there for a year. We wondered what became of the other ships. This video answered a lot of those questions. Thanks.
On the other side of the tourist equation, is someone like my best friend; a Burmese Muslim man in his 50's, with wife & 2 teenage boys. He is a tour guide at a border town. In good times, he's poor. Since COVID and border lockdowns, he and his ilk are barely staying alive.
What an operation it was! I was working aboard Queen Mary 2, we were in Australia when the shutdown happened. You can imagine how huge task it was to fly 2.5k passengers home in about 2-3 days! And then the crew was another challenge with all the flight restrictions a month later when we got to the homeport. Luckily Hungary wasn't affected too bad at the time so it was easy to get home from Southampton.
12:53 Singapore: *cries in Phase 2 (Heightened) * (Vaccines might not be a "magic bullet", as a fully vaccinated nurse and airport staff both managed to still get infected last month & ultimately spread the virus to 46 & >100 people respectively, prompting the country's government to tighten restrictions again for at least a month e.g. no dine-ins, nightlife still yet to reopen >1 year later, outdoor gatherings only in pairs (except for essential work or within the same household), max. 50 pax per movie theatre unless patrons are tested beforehand. Quite ironic since the country's cruise industry was among the 1st in the world to reopen (albeit "cruises to nowhere"), to the extent that it accounted @ 1 point for 1/3 of the whole world's cruise industry)
the video overlooks Singapore's Cruise to Nowhere success. Genting Dream and Royal Caribbean have been running cruises almost weekly since late 2020. To date, no positive cases have been detected on the cruise departing from Singapore
when a 20 hr flight is turned into a 2 month free cruise lol (I mean they were stressed and had to still work prob) and abt to lose their jobs so.... poor crew
I started working for a cruise line in 2019. Finished safety training March 2020. Had flight ticket to Hawaii in hand the day before they cancelled cruising.
Wendover: Hey, I’ve made a new video! Me: Ah great, I’ll give that a watch in a bit. Wendover: It’s about cruising! Me: This fire will put itself out, I’ve got a video to watch!
Depends on the industry. The cruise industry is fairly small and everybody is doing the same thing. Try having that much cash in another industry and you'll be eaten by a competitor who chooses to invest it instead, or has thinner margins, and if things go south, eh, we'll just get a bailout.
Its 4 am right now but logistics of cruise ships seemed more important
Seems more important than my homework even though I dont plan to work/start a business that is related to this
6am here
Yeah
It is more important than anything, when you’re a crewmember of these cruiseships and you have to lost your job, your career is in limbo and depleting amount of money in the bank!
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This isn’t just your average everyday logistics...
This is... *insane* logistics
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Even though the industry has all this money, they still tried to convince the US Congress to help them out.
Congress informed the Industry that they would be happy to help any US ships .
None of the Ship are based in the US.
If they were , they have to obey US labor laws .
And no Cruise Company could afford to stay in business .
So the US Government told them to talk to the governments of the Home Ports of the ships .
There is one US flagged vessel. The Pride of America. NCL
I believe Royal Caribbean also has a ship based in the USA for Hawaii cruises
The cruise industry doomed, bankruptcy imminent. CDC and Congress don't care as they are non US based ships paying no US taxes.
If they can’t afford US labour laws onboard, now imagine if they ACTUALLY were forced to adhere to real labour laws unlike the US’
@@MandoMonge Exactly. pay your US taxes and comply to US labor code or get out ! Stop hiding in foreign based countries, Happy Bankruptcy !
I was part of this. Its hard to tell the whole story of us crew members, especially the ones who stayed on board. I did 55 days and this comes close to painting a picture. It's very surreal to see my job in one of your videos. I did find it amusing that you never actually showed the Panorama despite mentioning it twice lol. Thanks for another great video. Hoping to get back to sea soon!
cool to hear, what's your job on the ship?
Probably boat stuff yanow
Did they stop paying you the moment you stepped off the boat or before that?
@@Telencephelon I'm also a crew member, my company stopped paying me once they realized the pandemic wasn't going to blow over quickly. Might have been different for other companies though
Crewmember here. Coming to this video after Omicron caused some cancellations. I'm having flashbacks. I see you friend!
I love this story. What do we do with all these crew members if we can’t fly them home?
All we have is a bunch of boats...hmm...
Just arrange for cruises for all the crews
@@StoutProper Very insightful...
@@StoutProper Bruh
My company arrenged a ship to cross the entire globe to bring people from asia back home
@@StoutProper a crew's cruise
Sad for all the staff who are out of work after having to wait for a long time to get home.
Heard there was a cruise ship jam at Manilia Bay as the mostly-Filipino crew were waiting for the Phillippine government to finish processing their CoViD test results (they had to test negative before getting off I remember)
They got paid tho at least
Brings a whole new meaning to, "The boss is giving me a ride home after work!"
Must be so surreal to be one of a couple hundred people on a floating hotel designed to host thousands, knowing that you're being sailed halfway around the world just so your company can drop off you and a dozen of your compatriots.
@@Gstrangeman96 been there, done that!
@@MrAvishek453 Was it surreal?
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Can you imagine how creepy it would be to be one of the 100 crew on that massive ship.
i've just done 6 months onboard a cruise ship, its very strange not having the passengers on board
I know right! Those vessels are so huge that even with 99 other people, it may take a while before you run into one. They are like a miniature floating city.
I was on a ship with about 350 of us stranded for 7 weeks or so. Was very strange, but what was weirder was being allowed to use the hottubs etc (before social distancing was put into full force)
I work at a summer camp, imagine a place filled with hundreds of happy and laughing kids being totally empty. No water slides running, no swing noises, no splashing in the pool, no campfire songs... it was just sad
would be very cool
Imagine being on one of these behemoths with just 100 people, you could go an entire day and maybe see only a handful in person.
It was a ghost town but there were assigned dining times so you'd usually see people at breakfast lunch or dinner.
Great atmosphere to write a ghost story series.
i was following a woman, Captain Kate , From the celebrity cruises, and it was ...weird. SHe said there were 25 people on a ship that normally had 400 crew and 2000 passengers. CRAZY!!! She had her puppy thought at least
@@tessadieter1201 YES! she is awesome i just mentioned her too!
Great to film some The Shining like movies
You know when the cruise ships banded together on a single mission, to send their workers home. It kind of felt sad yet beautiful
How much did they pay these 10,000 staff on these 7 ships on their "free trip home" ?
The 'foreign flag' is the legal loophole all oceanic shipping survive under. Consider the Rhosus (ship that brought ammonium nitrate to Beirut).
and then of course.. fired them....
All those companies care is profits and their shareholders. They could provide good wages and health benefits for all their workers and company would benefit as well. But it costs money to keep paying workers and alive I guess and dollar is above human being these days.
@@Conundrum425 These companies would literally cease to exist if they had to pay all their employees with no revenue whatsoever, I’m not saying it’s a good practice but I’d rather have lots of jobs lost in the short term over having no industry to return to after Covid-19. Though they really should treat employees during normal operations like you said.
@@AFoxGuy yet they had huge amounts of money stored away when they had to stop doing business. did you even listen? imagine defending horrible business practices and greed.
Cruise lines: We saved up money during the good times to help us during the bad times!
American Airlines: I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that!
Lol.
Same thing for the US government too; ran a deficit even during the good times.
To be fair, airlines run on far thinner margins than cruise lines
Cruise lines also cried poor and wanted a tax payer funded handout just like the airlines did.
@@jorge8596 True, but they still found a way to spend $12.4 billion on stock buybacks from 2014-2019.
We have like 5 cruise liners off the coast where I live (Cyprus) the entirety of covid. I always wake up to see them just floating there wondering how much money they bleed.
Which Cyprus?
@@philthephilosopher9235 The original one, rather than the unrecognized puppet state.
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I’ve never seen the sea in my life! Funny how life is so different in different places.
It has been fascinating living in Southampton as we have more cruise ship movements than ever servicing all the ships moored off the coast, usually movements would only be peak season Fridays and Saturdays but now its every day of the week. Particular highlight was watching both Queen Mary II and Queen Victoria sail off together on a Monday afternoon in February
Southampton, a city known for it's history of ships
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Rory Jardine - But don't those ships kind of clutter up the beautiful scenery? Of course, the Queen Mary ll & Queen Victoria would be completely different, they're beautiful ships and seeing the other standard cruise ships would be cool too but I just hope they aren't going to use this port as a parking lot for cruise ships, lol...I love your country, it's very beautiful.😊
Everytime I hear Southampton, I think of the Titanic
@@isabellind1292 the same ships come and go, so you could say they are part of the scenery! I've quite enjoyed seeing the frequency of their arrival but I do hope they restart passenger service soon
Some cruise lines didn't collect up all their ships in one floating offshore zone. Some sent them to ports - including some ports *way* off the beaten track. I am fortunate enough to live near Eastport, Maine, USA where the Oceania Riviera was docked for many months, and went to go see the ship. The cruise ship is large enough to take the whole town's population on board, with room left over, so it was rather impressive to see it at the waterfront, towering over even the church steeples. And while there, the ship was paying 1/10th the docking fees of a major city, and mostly paid the debt on the recent expansion of the dock to be able to handle ships that large, so the town was pretty happy to host the ship.
Damn it must be insane seeing a ship that could just take everyone in your town on a vacation right outside
That must be an incredibly wild situation to be on one of those cruise ships, sitting in a cluster off the shore, hanging out there for a year. I'd love to hear more about that. I wonder if any of them are making youtube diaries or anything.
Carnival had 26 ships when the shutdown started not 23. They have 23 now due to the sale of 4 fantasy class ships and addition of Mardi Gras.
ok they had 26 now have 23 sold 4 should that not be 22 or did they buy 1 ship
when you look at the money they make from only 26 ship it look impressive.
@@davidsworld5837 yes, he said "and addition of mardi gras" 😅
How do you sell a cruise ship in the middle of a cruise ship shutdown, or where they just scrapped?
@@antsbradley Several discount cruise lines sent their old ships to the scrappers and replaced them with second hand ships from the mainstream cruise lines that they bought at a substantial discount to what they would normally pay.
Am I the only one who thought it was so cute when an entire cruise ship is visiting Florida to "get groceries and the mail" for all of its siblings?
I was wondering if the different ships fight over who gets to go each week
@@slrhpbbt Carnival Dream: I wanna go to Miami!
Carnival Breeze: No I wanna go!
Carnival Vista: Neither of you are going. I am!
It for the family XD
Cuter if there were some pirates jumping it
@@FishingtonBurpPuzzle lol I wanna see THAT jump
"Unlike people, they couldn't just let them (the ships) go"
the ships are worth more and last longer
Next Video should be "The Insane Logistics of making the Insane Logistics Videos" haha
that’s just his tiktok
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I work on cruise ships and I haven't been able to work since then. It's really upsetting.
500000 dead. It's really upsetting.
@@KBNYS 500,000 i s not upsetting when there are 388 MILLIOIN Americans in the United States. So in essence only 0.001% of the American population died. Comparetively speaking that is not enough people, especially to shut down the American economy. I can understand if 1/4 or 1/2 of the American population died, but basically it is unrealistic to think that no one will die from a virus, not Covid or the flu a year. Shutting down the economy was the stupidest thing ever, which caused massive unemployment for years to come for only 500,000 people.
@@blacklightfreakout825 that’s a lot of words to say, “I am dumb and selfish.”
Or, “I am a russian troll.”
I feel sorry for you and all the people who are struggling now, the sisease is nothing, but the outrageous actions taken by governments is horrible to billions of people(while the disease is a little bit more dangerous than flu and has been lethal to only a minority of people.
@@Changeworld408 although i agree with you partially, we simply cannot risk passing this disease around like wildfire. If the disease evolves or adapts inside stronger human bodies, it may just simply complicate things futher.
As a person who works on cruise ships (I'm one of the rare Canadians that works on ships 😛) I really appreciate you telling the story of what happened after the guests got off the ships!
So its not only underpaid filippinos who work there :o ?
@@vilextone8031 hah yeah, there's tons of nationalities that work on cruise ships. I have friends from all around the world that I've met through work. And the pay is actually pretty good depending on the economic status of your country. Like $1500 USD is a lot in the philippines... Or so I'm told. I'm not sure how far $1500 can go in the philippines so I'm not really an expert
@@Kris_G That money can pay for a whole school semester in the Philippines. It’s big enough. I know someone who was able to buy a house in a good neighborhood with that much cruise money in the country
@@bmona7550 thank you for sharing! I appreciate having the info to support my comment!
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This is probably the most rounded video video you've done so far. You approach the issue from all different aspects, give a broader view of what's happened. Well done.
2:36 Well my neighbour here in Serbia married his Filipina coworker from the cruise ship so this definitely checks out :P
I wonder how the employees felt, on one hand you get a free cruise, on the other you're being laid off and have to spend 2 months getting home
well most all the employees on cruised go on 6 month contracts
probably one of the most gracious ways to be laid off tho
I was on board at that time, but missed the free cruise because my ship happened to be at my home country already. Bummer hahaha.
My friends who stayed, however, seemed to have had a good time. The living conditions during that time were even better than normal. With no passengers on board, they had little to no work and were free to use some of the ship's services - in my ship, everyone had an individual, fully equipped passenger suite (with balcony!) for that period. Also, spending long stretches of time on board is normal, so those 2 months of travel weren't nearly as stressful as they may have sounded.
For job security, during that travel they were all on payroll, on top of that, we weren't really laid off and as soon as this passes we will be hired back, as the industry recovers.
From the comments here, I see that people have a really bad image of work and living conditions on board, but they are not bad at all. I definitely wish I had been forced to extend my stay for a two months trip like that.
I bet they pissed, nay, shat in the pool 🤣
Jonas, Do you recollect the time frame of getting staff to their home countries? At the time there was little/no air lift available anywhere let alone for thousands of staff. You are right that its bad being laid off but how many friends in all our cities were too? The good thing is the cruise lines will be ramping up in phases and these people will have jobs to go back to.
The sad part was the quick pic of the closed Ketchikan stores, Nobody is talking about the job losses/economic losses in port cities at least in the US.....
This Video + Airplanes =
Ultimate Wendover Productions Video
After years of enjoying Wendover and HAI videos, I unexpectedly saw my house off in the distance in this video. You're welcome.
At what time, can I see it lol
@@Hygix_ 13:33 just above the four red cranes on the left side of the screen.
Yeah, we had that with the movie Chariots of Fire
I think were are neighbors lol
@@MatanArie I'm coming over
Never watched any video of yours without learning something new.
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Loved most of the video, not so much the ads
@DK it's not ads per se but in the video itself promoting other services etc. I get making money but seemed excessive
CEO of cruise ship company: It's too hard to remain open, I'll shut down
Wendover: Are you sure about that
I live in the Portland, Oregon area. There is a coastal town called Astoria about an hour away that has just gotten the facilities for cruise ships, nothing huge. However, there were 10 cruise ships anchored because of the shut down. It was a big deal because no one from around here had ever seen that many large vessels in one place before.
I hope the next video will be The Insane Logistics of Shutting Down the Suez Canal
Please . No! We’ve already watched enough videos on how a woman drew a peni$ and balls in the sea then crashed a ship. How much more videos about that can we watch ?
@@TKUA11 It wasn't a woman captain, that was a fake rumour. It was tripulated by 25 indians.
There's this video.
th-cam.com/video/1S3Ca9v6pyo/w-d-xo.html
Head over to Nebula where this video doesn’t exist yet because everything is uploaded later on the platform for some reason. Nice one
It's necessary to get the ad revenue and publicity from having a video with lots of views on youtube 🌈
I worked on a cruise ship as an American citizen during the shutdown. I was stuck onboard for a month off the coast of Florida, we could port in Florida but no one was allowed off for any reason (unless immediate medical attention was needed and then they couldn’t get back on). We knew we wouldn’t be sailing with guests anytime soon but the CDC wouldn’t allow us off to get personal supplies from the store. I couldn’t even get off to go to my car in the parking lot to drive twenty minutes down the road to my home.
Man Overboard! ... Again...
Seriously, that must have been really frustrating. Still better than getting COVID!
Was staff allowed to use the amenities during that time? Like swimming, movie theater etc?
So glad they just didn't abandon their crew. After all they could have just said, "You're fired, find your own way home."
Surprised they don't make crewmembers walk the plank for insulting the captain or asking for a higher wage
I think Immigration laws of the countys where they were anchored while the pandemic hit prevented that.
I was one of the stranded crew! The company was great with us generally, but a lot of the independent contractors got screwed (art auctioneers, etc) by their own companies. One of my mates was effectively told this, and kinda had to be adopted by the cruiseline for repatriation at no cost.
@@ruthharvey4158 I can't imagine what it would be like to be an independent contractor in a time like this. Job security is at the lowest it's ever been.
The amount of stranded workers would be roughly on par with the size of many of the national militaries in the Caribbean.
As badly as cruise lines generally treat their workers, I think those ships were taking people home one way or another :P
Fun fact the carnival ecstasy has now been scrapped
Luckily, this will likely never happen, because the cruise industry uses Curiosity Stream, and watches its favorite documentaries on Nebula.
My dad and brother work on a popular cruise line. Both have been out of work for over a year. My brother was stranded on his ship until May, when he finally got a flight back here to Canada.
@seeni gzty Huh?
4:04 - 5:42 oh my goodness, your research skills is amazing! I never even thought about this going on while I was stuck in quarantine lol
The Logistics videos are the best videos from Wendover.
0:30 SAM
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It's a secret warship!
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I don't get it, what are you looking at?
This is the one TH-cam channel that i could watch all day and not get bored because they always keeps you engaged and wanting to know more
It has been very difficult here in southeast Alaska. I can’t imagine what another summer of no ships will do to our small community’s like Skagway.
hint: you had a year where you could retrain
@@ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge what are you talking about?
I didnt know people were interested to visit alaska on cruiseships
@@tijmen131 sarcasm or ignorance?
what did you do before cruise ships ?? from Australia
*Wendover uploads a video that isn't about anything airplane related* Everyone: Panik
*He says "Airlines" at **0:48* Everyone: Kalm
Ahah that meme is still alive! :D
Well done. I subscribed and bought the year of Curiosity Stream and Nebula because this was so well made. Good job.
Now could you do what environmental impact do these floating hotels have? I heard that it's really quite bad, and I love cruise ships.
I have been looking for a comment like yours for so long. Cruise ships are made of materials that cause damage to your body and one cruise ship map I looked at and a lot of the boat is underwater and it kills big sea animals and no one notices. Cruise ships also damage the enviorment when scrapped and the cruise industry was recently caught DUMPING PLASTIC RIGHT INTO THE OCEAN so I told my parents that cruise ships are evil and they seem to agree.
There's also the fact they switch to the most polluting fuel ever a few miles from port so the pollution levels on the top deck are beyond what you find in major cities.
Also, there's been so many cases where serious crimes have been committed against other passengers, yet the culprit has been allowed to simply walk off the ship by the crew.
All they care about is money.
I have heard that a typical ship is equal or greater than the carbon emissions of most countries vehicle fleets. All of them.
@@isabellind1292 The fact that cruise ships dumped sewage into the ocean at all is unacceptable and causes perminant damage to ecosystems. I was on a cruise ship once and I got so sick and needed an injection to stop the symptoms. Cruise ships were filthy even before Covid existed.
In a few months: The Insane Logistics of Reopening the Cruise Industry
It's just this video but in reverse
No it’s more like “the insane logistics of reopening EVERYTHING”
Also, the insane logistics of the Nebula bundle, at the low introductory price of only $15.
auction for ships,,,,scrap metal,,,too far to late
I was thinking the same thing. How are they going to bring back all of the staff to their ships?
Sigh, lost my job at Carnival back in July last year. This hits home. Do miss it a lot
Well. Good explanation. However in the case of Hurtigruten's Roald Amundsen. I live in Norway and in the news here the uncovered that the crew as you stated comes from lower waged county and they didn't quarantine property. Some testet before traveling to Norway. The didn't test when arrivals and actually had there quarantine onboard the ship while working among passengers. The management of Hurtigruten tried to cover the whole thing up.
Great video. One thing that I wished you covered was that it was not "smooth sailing" for every cruise company. There was half a dozen smaller cruise companies that folded in 2020, the largest was CMV-Cruise and Maritime Voyages. In July 2020, the parent company SQTL (South Quay Travel & Leisure Ltd) went into administration / bankruptcy; leaving the fate of employees, their five ships (plus one they were in the process of purchasing) and the passenger's fares in the great unknown.
Fascinating - having worked in large organizations my entire life, I knew that simply stopping the servicing & sending home a "customer base" was only the tip of the iceberg when cruise companies had to shutter this time two years ago. I especially marveled at the solution Carnival used to shuttle their fleet's personnel home from the Caribbean - remarkable; I would love to know what the life of crew members was like during those sailings (especially Filipino employees whose "shuttle" took the longest)?
Did I just watch a 15 minute ad for a documentary?
I'm not mad, but damn that's impressive.
This is the best youtube video I've ever seen, I'm speechless by how good it is.
We need a video about the logistics of Wendover Productions.
I was sure your next video was gonna be about the Suez canal / Evergreen getting stuck. But NOP you fooled us!
There’s probably a video down the line. These things take like a month to make
How about "the insane logistics of shutting down a crucial canal in Egypt"
If that's related to a real world event it's purely coincidental
Pretty sure he's going to work on it, has to wait to see the long term outcome of that event to make a really informative video about it
Just found this documentry . was amazed about the detail and facts ,enjoyed it immensly
At this point we need the insane logistics of producing bricks
I get the joke but for real I'd be down to watch the logistics of cement as its the 2nd most consumed resource in the world.
I’m so thankful that this video isn’t about the Suez Canal and evergreen ship
**evergiven**
Soon
I got such a kick seeing my former floating home in your video. Great explanation of the current cruise climate.
im amazed by the fact that you know how to research that
God, this channel is just absolutely incredible.
It really is!
If the government suddenly announce and mandate a restriction in the number of youtube channels that one could subscribe to, this would be one of the channels I'd give up. The research, insights, and overall effort in producing this video is just...top notch.
Ketchikan is such an awesome place and one of the reasons we took a second Alaska cruise.
Cold places and cruises are a recipe for disease and I don't know how you can be so ignorant to support cruises despite how they have been caught dumping plastic right into the ocean. Stop supporting this.
Could you do a similar video regarding the live entertainment industry- concerts, conventions and corporate events, theatre, and festivals? It was one of the first industries to shut down and will most likely be the last to fully recover. Hundreds of thousands employed in this sector, and yet if the job is done right, no one knows we are there.
Alaska is going to have a rough recovery because Canada banned all cruise ships and the Jones act requires any non-US flagged vessel to hit an international port as part of their itinerary. This is why Ensenada, Victoria, and Vancouver are such popular ports. (and Bahamas and Bermuda for "day" sails out of Florida)
Maybe if they didn't try so hard to avoid taxes and labour regulations they wouldn't have that problem 🙃
@@daphnebliss-rosval4309 If the US had enough skilled sailors to crew ships maybe they would. But US flagged vessels also have to use US crews. That is a bigger issue than the taxes. (and there are construction issues as well)
@David Davison Actually they are related but its not the ONLY reason. If they are registered in Bahamas they can hire anyone in the world. The US is protective and restrictive. Pay isn't the ONLY issue - (BTW, there ARE several US flagged cruise ships based in Hawaii so they can pay enough and find crews if they have to)
Then there are the safety code issues. US uses a different code than pretty much the rest of the world (the Coast Guard developed their own.) So you pretty much have to BUILD the ship here to get US flagged - or file for an exemption. Things like door widths and what is considered an emergency escape. Some cases the US is more strict and sometimes the International code is. But OFTEN you can't comply with them BOTH.
This is why the US developed the Marshall Islands as a more "US Centric" flag of convenience.
The US doesn't exactly play well with others.
But usually the officers (customer facing) are US/UK/Canadian for the US market and tend to be paid better than the janitor. (that is pretty much in ANY industry)
I’m surprised that they didn’t mentioned the Cruises to nowhere launched by Royal Caribbean in Singapore which is hugely popular among locals
And safe.
Also Aida, Costa, Mein Schiff had been crusing safely since August 2020.
Actually yeah, that's a good idea. I mean, most of the time ppl ride cruises for the experience of riding the cruise not to go somewhere.
Cool, do they get to see the house from courage the cowardly dog?
@@alifaan595 what about pollution from all this? Countries need to use their clinate plan and ban cruise ships.
@@insectbite1714 that's another conversation entirely, this is more about what things cruise companies can do to stay afloat (pun intended) while they're shut down
Don’t really have a lot of sympathy for them considering how they treat their employees and that on billions of dollars of revenue they pay less taxes than 16 years olds working summer jobs
How about the nearly 30k direct jobs that are at stake?
@@memyself4616 I only one company, but it doesnt matter as those people can do what they want with those money and it's better when goverments have money to spend on people
Most those employed in the cruise industry are from third world countries, and are foreign flagged. There are usually leas than a handful of americans employed on cruise ships
Whataboutism are just proof ypu have no arguement.
What about the hundreds of rapes, thousands of assualts, tens of thousands of thefts and the 10-15 people a year that vanish off cruise ships at sea huh?
@@norml.hugh-mann ppl just jump of ships.
@@norml.hugh-mann Do because they are from third world or eastern Europe not from Ammeeericaaa they need those jobs less? In large cities there are also a lot of crimes, so close cities?
This is one of the best videos of yours I’ve watched - especially the repatriation of the crew. Fascinating and dizzyingly complex.
This isn’t just your average everyday logistics... yes!
I haven’t even watched yet and I already know it will be great. Can’t wait to watch the full video.
what if it was bad
@@superswagger4531 Spoiler (lol): It’s not bad.
Did you watch it yet? 😀
Spoiler, it is long and ploting like his latest videos tend to be
Problems cause by Wuhan Lab Virus. All you need to know.
I was in Aruba last week and spotted the Norwegian Sky tied up at the terminal. The cabbies said they had been there for a year. We wondered what became of the other ships. This video answered a lot of those questions. Thanks.
I was onboard the Carnival Liberty from the Caribbean to India and back to the Caribbean. Great Voyage.
When dudes like Wendover put "insane" into their clip title, you better believe that it really is.
Watching from Odyssey of the seas! I love learning about the logistics of things I’m currently participating in.
You’re incredible: I could not care less about cruises, but I know I’m going to start my weekend with the nebula documentary
I hope the next is:
"The insane logistics turmoil that was and is the Suez Canal blockage"
On the other side of the tourist equation, is someone like my best friend; a Burmese Muslim man in his 50's, with wife & 2 teenage boys. He is a tour guide at a border town. In good times, he's poor. Since COVID and border lockdowns, he and his ilk are barely staying alive.
Imagine how much chemistry must be going on in the ship 400 m long with only 300 staff members, how much fun they must be having.
When is this channel going to be renamed "Wendover Logistics"? That name would be quite fitting to be honest.
Good point. HAI for the quirky laughs, Wendover for the geeky logistics.
Wendover productions sounds better imo
Your videos are always interesting, but this one was just especially so. What a unique situation. Thank you for documenting and sharing.
What an operation it was! I was working aboard Queen Mary 2, we were in Australia when the shutdown happened. You can imagine how huge task it was to fly 2.5k passengers home in about 2-3 days! And then the crew was another challenge with all the flight restrictions a month later when we got to the homeport. Luckily Hungary wasn't affected too bad at the time so it was easy to get home from Southampton.
How is the situation in Hungary now?
Can I find a place to rent in Hungary? Thanks
@@capassoluigi7387 Not yet, I don't think so. But in one or two more months the hotels should open.
The *Insane Logistics of making a Wendover Productions Video*
I was stuck on a Princess Ship for 2 months! it was crazy, can’t wait to get back!
I’m hoping to be able to go on a cruise in March next year. I was meant to go last year but it got cancelled so I rebooked it for 2022.
Good thing you did it for 2022 and not 2021
People that took cruises during the pandemic should be in prison. They are super spreaders.
Blame on Wuhan Lab Virus.
When I get the shot, I'll be first in line. I spent a total six weeks on four different caribbean ships. Going back will be great!
12:53 Singapore: *cries in Phase 2 (Heightened) * (Vaccines might not be a "magic bullet", as a fully vaccinated nurse and airport staff both managed to still get infected last month & ultimately spread the virus to 46 & >100 people respectively, prompting the country's government to tighten restrictions again for at least a month e.g. no dine-ins, nightlife still yet to reopen >1 year later, outdoor gatherings only in pairs (except for essential work or within the same household), max. 50 pax per movie theatre unless patrons are tested beforehand. Quite ironic since the country's cruise industry was among the 1st in the world to reopen (albeit "cruises to nowhere"), to the extent that it accounted @ 1 point for 1/3 of the whole world's cruise industry)
the video overlooks Singapore's Cruise to Nowhere success. Genting Dream and Royal Caribbean have been running cruises almost weekly since late 2020. To date, no positive cases have been detected on the cruise departing from Singapore
@15:25 "This is not a brothel. There are no prostitutes at this address."
I wish I could say the same.
when a 20 hr flight is turned into a 2 month free cruise lol (I mean they were stressed and had to still work prob) and abt to lose their jobs so.... poor crew
I'd rather die than being stuck on a cruise ship for 2 months 🌈
When my boss scolds me for not finishing work
me: “Doing nothing is actually, quite a lot of work.”
I like how your are framing this as a sad thing as cruise ships are so great for the environment
3:58 i also regularly border the "Ecstasy" 😏
Wow. A regular drug user. How awe-inspiring!
I can't believe that name hasn't been changed.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 it was made in 91' so its not like they didnt know
Makes me wonder how that name got the green light.
Fantastic video. Keep up the good work.
I wish there were 20 hours Wendover vids that I could listen to before sleep
You didn't mention all the highly successful cruises in Italy, Germany and Singapore
Probably because no one cares
@@The8008manbro
More like he is unaware and uninformed.
@@Dangic23 which means that Its not relevant and no one cares
@@The8008manbro
Definitely doesn't mean that.
The video is about the shutting down of the cruise industry, not the highly successful cruises in Italy, Germany and Singapore.
I started working for a cruise line in 2019. Finished safety training March 2020. Had flight ticket to Hawaii in hand the day before they cancelled cruising.
have you started working yet?
Wendover deserves to be on trending every upload. 1000000/10 content.
Wendover: Hey, I’ve made a new video!
Me: Ah great, I’ll give that a watch in a bit.
Wendover: It’s about cruising!
Me: This fire will put itself out, I’ve got a video to watch!
You should do a video of the logistics of cruise ships in general
The lesson we all should have learned from this is that no matter how rich you are you should always save some money for a rainy day. Or rainy year...
But then you're a Filipino, You don't save because rain is nothing
Depends on the industry. The cruise industry is fairly small and everybody is doing the same thing. Try having that much cash in another industry and you'll be eaten by a competitor who chooses to invest it instead, or has thinner margins, and if things go south, eh, we'll just get a bailout.
@@Croz89 that's actually a good point, reinvesting your savings is usually the better play in other industries. Not all though
Can you imagine the crew party's going on these ships.
I don't have to, I'm a ship musician. They're pretty wild.
@@brassholio makes me happy.