Great video. I have a Class B and as you said there are good and bad points to everything. That is where I see the beauty in all the different types of RVs - there truly is something for everyone out there and with each decision as you said there are trade-offs to be made. I also agree that I am not fooling ANYONE or being stealthy in my Class B. I have done similar videos and think I will do another one on this topic.
I live in a Semi Truck with ZERO amenities besides a bed. For years, I never ever had a cooler. A converted Econoline is an upgrade for me. This truck has a ton of overhead space, enough to fall to my death from the top bunk. I could install a trampoline and not hit the roof, but I can't extend my arms and turn a full 360 degrees with hitting cabinets. For cooking, I used a coleman stove and a backpackers stove for a while. It cooked food outside just fine. Some drivers have small BBQs and charcoal. Many just set up a camping circle right in the parking lot with a fire blazing in the BBQ. It's like a tailgating. They thing that is missing from any sized RV or Truck, are other people. Sometimes it is great to have company, but it doesn't matter how much space you have when you need solitude. A Class could provide enough separation for personal privacy, but a class B might require one of you to set up a tent outside or 👍 for a ride. It really depends on the situation in which the RV is used. I spent 4 months in a truck team driving. It started off as friends, but I've never spoken to the other dude ever since. Like you said, there needs to be space in some way that fits your personal needs.
It's all about one's personal comfort levels. I have dogs & stuff. I'm actually looking for a bigger ClassC with basement storage. That would make life so much easier for me & the dogs! But that's me & I find it odd how others are always telling me what "they think" I need. My other vehicle is actually a full sized hi top Dodge van. It was my dog mobile when I traveled all over the country with my dogs, but no, I would not want to live in it. But again, that's just me. I admire those that actually take a typical van & turn it into their personal living space. It intrigues me on how they conform them. Recently I found a channel from someone, oh, Delirious Donut I think is his channel name. How he conformed his van is amazing! I get around 9.5 mpg in my ClassC, he said he gets around 10-12mpg in his cargo van. My van, I got around 16 mpg in it. I like ClassB's too, but they are too small for my needs - that goes without saying since I said I'm looking for a bigger C. There are many reason's why we stick with what we do too. Some want motorized vehicles, some want to tow. Some need huge living spaces, some not so much. Some folks can live with just a weeks worth of clothing & be happy. Again, it's just how one chooses to live their lives. On the ClassB's & going stealth. I question how many people actually pay attention when one talks of the general public. I find most folks that aren't versed in RV's really don't know the difference between a regular van, a camper van, to a ClassB.
Never thought such a video would cause such a fuss. As Eric mentioned choosing an RV class is personal decision based on your lifestyle. Living space, maintainability, cost and what you want to do with it is based on your decisions. I went with a class C because it gave the best bang for the buck. Most the class A were too trashed out for the same price and the class B's were ridiculous for ones that were halfway descent.
Some good advice Eric. If you don't mind doing without some conveniences of a larger RV a camper van or converted van might be the way to go. I have been looking at smaller fifth wheels because I already own a pick up truck. I thought about a slide in in camper, but my issue is I want to set up a base camp someplace, and have a vehicle free to take where I want on short trips or ones where a class C or B can't go. I am also considering the option of a smaller motorcycle for just putting around.
Chris you really need to take a look at the wide bodied class B's..these are about 1.5 ft to 2 ft wider than the standard van. That extra width opens all sorts of options on floor layout and functionality.. Also fuel economy is a plus for vans.. my Roadtrek 210 which is a wide bodied van consistently got 21 mpg (US)..It was a diesel.
Sure, vans (Like old and modern high top Westfalia's) stick out - but if you've got a normal colour, say, dark blue, you're sorted. Grab some tinted windows, black out curtains and you're sorted. They certainly don't stick out as much as the Class C you have. Having the convenience of having a living area, with a table, and a fridge, kitchen area, with a sink and 2 burner stove, a toilet and a shower, with a double bed in the roof is certainly worth having a high top camper van.
Hi rv fellas, A brief story about how I became an rv ier, back in 2010 I was living in an rv, although I lived there for just 1 month, long enough to fall in love with the RV life, even though it was parked on a house driveway and hooked to the sewer,now in 2014 due to financial strugle, I decided to take the challenge, bought a 18 " tioga sportsman rv, live in a very private industrial area among three other rv's, I really love living off the grid, got a job, pay no bills, no rent etc, got my own portable power supplier, my little home is just the way I dreamed it, ..... it has all the amenities I need, but seriously I was thinking about buying a camper van so I can park anywhere on the streets or avenues, but then. I will lose space , Greetings from So Cal
April 10th 2015...looking back on this vid. 2/15/14...funny how we change our minds..now you're in a van and loving it. I'm looking into a camper van myslef. Stay strong, erick!
Home made conversions can be quite far. I have a hitop ford transit panel van, 17ft long (9-10ft cell length), with a bathroom (with shower), fridge (45L), stove, 2 persons bed (converted from L shaped seat), 200 amps power, 200W solar, 24/17 fresh/waster galon tanks. From the outside it is quite stealthy and when traveling when I get pulled over by the police, I am often asked what load I'm carrying - cos they don't realize its a camper van. So, stealthy camper van with the benefits of a motorhome is mostly possible. There is only one thing you definitely lose, space and besides being creative with the layout, you have to struck a compromise between storage space and not wanting to be cramped.
Hey Eric, Hubs and I have been watching your videos the past 6 months or so and it's so cool to see how you've grown as a creator! Ha you even got better looking! ;) Your videos are so fun! You even inspired us to try one out so we rented an older class B last week and we're hooked! Of course we wouldn't be living in it full time, but dang we could have hung out in it for a long long time! :)
I've got one of those. An 87 Toyota New Horizon. It's great for just me when I'm contracting. Not so great for family camping thou. The great thing is they don't up much space. The bad thing is a little 4 banger hauling all that weight around.
for me, i live a 78 class A. and i like being able to reach up with my big toe and turn on the furnace to take the chill off before i climb out of bed. the thought of getting out of bed in the middle of the night to walk across the parking lot at wal mart to use the restroom is just not the way to go.
I love your cat! :D My husband and I have a daughter who will turn 4 in April. We are thinking of buying some land and living in an RV for a time until we are able to build an off-grid home. But this is only a dream at the moment and we won't be able to for at least a few more years. We also have 2 cats and a small dog, so life will be interesting once we set out! lol
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Well, I agree that a class B motorhome is very small. I consider 2 very important differences when comparing a camper van to a class A or C rv. If you travel a lot, a class B will be (1) a lot cheaper on gas and (2) easier to park and drive. A class C will be a lot roomier of course, but like you pointed out, you stick out a lot more. That van chassis has to pull a lot of weight, so engine, transmission and tires are going to be sollicitated a bit more (class A's are just too expensive there). I think for short or medium trips as well as staying for a while in the same spot, a class C will be more convienient and comfortable though. You can also buy nice used ones for an affordable price. But for me, planning to travel extensively (10,000 miles and up) on each trip, a class B makes more sense.
I like class bs because there small and you don't have to fill up all the corners, spaces and more stuff you don't need. So thats just my opinion. If you don't mind answering this question can you paint the inside of your RV? I'm just wondering. Thank you for sharing your idea's.
Eric, let me ask, how much stuff will i need to bring on board: towels, sheets, dishes, cups and things u can think of that make life on the road low baggage and fun? Thanks
Nomadic Fanatic Normally I would thumb up your videos and say you are spot on and know what you're talking about. This video you don't. Check out Road Trek, Triple E, Winnebago Era, Great West Vans, and Pleasure Way. All those Van Class B RV companies are the cream of the crop when it comes to a Class B RV. They have a built in toilet, shower, king sized bed, or queen, they have chairs that swivel so you can use every inch of your living space. They have a full size fridge in Road Treks CS 2014 model. In that model it's all Electric meaning you can run your TV, Fridge, AC all night and you will not run out of power. You can start up your engine for 30 minutes and you're batteries will be completely recharged. You haven't done much research into Class B's I can tell. I would strongly recommend you check out Road Treks' CS, RS, E-Trek and Triple E's Class B models. Their models will blow you away in comfort and amenities. The Road Treks CS has a full sized fridge, bath, toilet, bed, and microwave. So I'm unsure where you're getting your information from that Class B's you have to shower in a Wal-Mart?
I just watched this in November 2019. Funny how the progress, there are so many "van build" company's out now. I would love a RV but my budget says "not in this life time honey"! So I'll keep searching for a camper van.
If I remember correctly you touched on this in previous vids but being in a Class B you're going to run into the unfortunate negative stereo types that come with living in a van. The RV life has a stigma no matter what you're in but you're really going to find it when you live in a van. People think you're homeless, you're poor, you're dirty and they don't want you any where around them. Sadly, we all know those things aren't always true but in this economy sadly sometimes it is. To some people, living in a van isn't much better than living on a street. People need to be prepared to deal with that and know HOW to deal with it effectively.
This is a really good subject. Been trying to figure out which way is gonna be best for the small budget that I am working with. I'm leaning towards the RV C class because of the space like you mentioned; it's just myself and two small dogs. Plus, I do like to shower on my own terms and in my own space- at least once every month or so! LOL! ...I did have a question if you get to it also- from another video I saw: Did you decide on the GoPro or the Canon camcorder? Thanks. Have a good one.
Hello could you make a video on how to make a youtube video and what camera recording equipment that you use PS love all your videos happy trails and God bless.
I think if you're going on a few days up to a week trip, and it's one or two of you, a class B would work and would probably get better gas mileage. If it were longer than a week stay and more than 2 people, a class C or A would be better. Plus you could tow a vehicle, and just park the motorhome at the site.
I have a full size van that has the extended rear, sofa bed, blinds, curtains, etc. It does not have the raised roof, though. It could make a great conversion, but - like you - I need my bathroom and kitchen space. I could not live the van life.
Hi just had a question on your videos I enjoy all of your videos but what camera do you use to record your videos it has awesome clarity to it. And do you bother you though showing how you make good TH-cam video I'm really interested in making some. I'm going to be traveling in my van and I would like to start my own TH-cam channel . Happy trails to you keep on truckin
Hi Eric! Could you give some advices or tips on how to buy a good rv such as yours with price under 5k? I mean on what things you should take a look in first place. P.s And it would great if you will make a video about that, and showing the stuff that you need to take a look at first place right on your rv:) Ofcorse if you had a time for this and if you think that its a nice idea. Great videos, many thx
I think you do have a point, to an extent. A Class B, no matter how, will have air conditioner. Either on top, or at the back. And this will scream RV. The next thing is the awning. However, for a single person or two, Class B should be enough. However, some will feel claustrophobic, so they are better off with Class C or 5th wheel. A truck camper actually smaller than class B (except for the big one) and some people do able to live in them. Different people require different stuff I guess.
To me a van is something without insulation making it very difficult to live in during the winter and very hot in the summer. Of course some camper vans don't have showers or toilets which is roughing it too much for me!
***** Both you and Eric are mistaken about not having a shower or toilet. I've taken it upon myself to attach the links to where Class B RV's have a king sized bed, shower, toilet, kitchen, closet space, and have heating / cooling within them. If you want a dry bath LTV is the one for you. If you want a van that has all you can have power than Road Trek is for you. You can run all you want electricity and recharge by running your engine for 30 minutes then shutting it off and having your power back. Here are the links: www.roadtrek.com/ www.leisurevans.com/about/ www.pleasureway.com/?gclid=CjkKEQjw5-OdBRDW3ceD9fL0r4QBEiQAW7htXZG7s7HeMYhIgGrksjLxRZadufSjEvZsUBmHLTZLdEfw_wcB www.greatwestvans.com/ www.winnebagotouring.com/
Nomadic Fanatic a porter potty? Sounds like the people you interviewed had a van they converted themselves into a Class B RV on their own dime. That's not a Class B RV. That's still technically a day camper. A Class B RV by detention has to have a bed, toilet, shower, sink, fridge, and stove. If any of those items are missing it's not a Class B it's someone's attempt at making a Class B RV. I understand some companies in the 1950's and 60's tried their hand at making what they called RV's. Yet that isn't so. Just because they slap the words RV on their crappy product doesn't make it a RV. It's a Day Camper. The first companies to make a official Class B RV was Winnebago, LTV, and Road Trek. They're still in business today.
www.coachhouserv.com/model-V24.php Coach House just released their version of a Class B. This knocks Road Trek, Pleasure Way, LTV, GWV, and Winnebago's model out of the water. It has a dry bath, coats for two people to separately bunk, full sized fridge and freezer, microwave, stove, sink, and a table up front in which to eat at. All the areas for sleeping, eating and bathroom are separated. This is awesome. Now this is a Class B.
For years i traveled in a tiny sailboat the main cabin was 4.5 feet/ length 7' width/5 ' width kerosene lamps for, light and 5 gal bucket for a head. Wood stove for heat No right or wrong answers. Obviously I'm fairly rough guy But I sailed into places the big boy couldn't go. Its whatever you like.
i'll take my 72' VW Westfalia over either the motorhome, ''or class b'' It gets 30 mpg, can get way further into the woods, and away from other people with both it's size, and weight over the rear drive tires for traction.. we have all the amenities such as sink, toilet, shower (out door), sleeps 4 (we have 2 kids) , stove, and fridge. When in the national forest, we pop the top, and can stand up inside. When wanting to remain stealth (which we rarely do bc at 30 mpg, we can afford to drive to the national forest), we just leave the top down, and shut the curtains.. I am currently installing a home made wood stove for extreme cold camping/ ice fishing.
Stinking cool E.Jacobs,btw did Morgan make you toss the t-shirt,lol.....seriously could you see yourself in a big honkin class a? Thanks buddy,looking forward to your quick response!
Waited till 2019,couldnt wait any longer,lol,Morgan gone,Angela gone twice,and class c gone,and now Big man is haulin his gear in a class a......no need to respond,did it for ya!
I can see your point of view but are you comparing a normal van that was converted or a 20 foot camper van like Chris penn has, because there is a BIG difference in the 2. On is like 10-14 feet long and the other Is 18-23 feet long.
Nomadic Fanatic Actually, you talk about at least 3 types - fully equipped Class C motorhome, fully equipped Class B motorhome, and a stripped down Econoline van. And you toss in the term camper van occasionally. A confusing comparison.
First of, I love your videos. I've watched every one. I can wait for you to get on the road and doing some camping. As for Class C vs Class B, you are right, people need to make up their own minds about what they want. But you kind of short-changed the advantages of a Class B in your video. A Class B is a whole lot more than trying to be stealthy. It is easier to drive, easier to park, gets much, much better gas mileage than a Class C or Class A. And, it holds its resale value a lot better than a Class C. I wouldn't try to travel with more than one other person in Class B; but luckily I'm retired and travel alone..
Nomadic Fanatic Maybe I am wrong. What kind of mileage do you get? If you said, I missed it. I think that the best Class C I looked at got 12 to 15 MPG. If you are getting better than that, kudos, and my apology.. I have a Roadtrek CS Adventurous built on a Mercedes Sprinter with a turbo diesel engine. I was told I should get 18 mpg city, 22 mpg highway. I have to admit, the best I have gotten so far is 20 mpg on a tankful of diesel (all highway). I'm told it will get better when the engine is fully broken-in. That is 33% better than 15 MPG. I would call that a significant difference. I looked at Class C RVs when I was buying; and I have to admit, I am envious of the extra storage. There were several that I gave serious thought to buying.
Toluca47 Your RoadTrek CS Adventurous gets more MPG than Eric's ancient class C. You have everything Eric does yet you can park in a cars parking spot. Also your RV is worth more than Eric's. He more than likely deleted his comments.
Only real advantage Class B has over Class C is maneuverability. That may not matter for some, but is a huge deal for others. Parking can be a big deal too. Otherwise, Class C all the way. I have a Class B, but I don't live in it. Beats a tent for camping.
Help! What do you ya'll think about the Dodge Xplorer like the one Chris Travels uses? Does that count as an RV or a Camper Van? Is it the best of both worlds or the worst of both worlds, or the worst and the best? Is it "stealthy" if you don't put a ton of junk on top of it?
Chris's van seems to not have a high top roof (or he's really tall). Most I've seen do have the high top. In answer to your question, Xplorers are fine but I decided not to go with one because most of the ones I've seen didn't have a rear door. I recommend looking at some other manufacturers before making a final decision. Check out Roadtrek, Pleasure Way, Leisure Travel, and Coach House (my personal favorite).
Google VW T5 conversions and you will see how some over here in the UK do it, iv just got a brand new on and I'm just sorting out a conversion then I'm off to France...great vids thou..
As a camper van owner, I will admit I'm biased but I have to say vans beat out RV's in terms of day to day practicality. 1. A van works better as a daily driver. It will fit most parking spaces, drive-thrus and even in some public garages. Also better fuel economy. 2. A lot of cities have ordinances not allowing vehicles over 20 feet to park on city streets. The smallest RV's are longer than that. 3. Vans are just lower profile than RV's. This means less attention from cops and nosy neighbors wondering if someone is living in their vehicle. Granted, my opinion might change if I had to live in my van full time but until that time I'll take my van over a class a or c motorhome.
We agree a class C is much beter Well we have both a spinter thats blends jn easy , but class C Is much more comfort. Hence thats why we bought a amercan class C ,altough we live in europe where things are much smaller like roads in towns and such ,but we always boondocking we never go to campgrounds And in usa we love walmarkts al, over the usa
Somthings u right about space but in europe and uk rvs are not so popular and the ones here are just to expensive to even afford so u best alternative is a campervan which is why it more Popular some roads and tunnels are restricted to height and width so u have to watch that as well
Your title is misleading, a class b is not a camper van mang. A class b is an rv like yours just smaller, a camper van is a van with few things inside.also i think you exaggerated a little on how cramped class b can get lol? I had both class c and b for about 6 years. I believe any class be specially a wide body is much better than any motor-home if you plan to live in it full time. Parking, driving, maintaining, fuel, efficiency in general, stealth, and finally coziness goes to class b. They are just freaking awesome. I remember when i used to wake up in a parking lot have a shower go mcdeeee drive through get coffee and breakfast park again watch the news and head to work with my motor home. how awesome is that?
i was born and raised in an rv so my only thought to you is this, you are alot GREENER to the enviroment ronning a 32 amp rv (30A), instead of a house with a minimum of 400 amps and you then have to furnish the home, rvs come ready to go. i noticed you have a ford e350. i have rebuilt over a hundred 460v8 engines and i think you have one of the best power trains available for an 80s class c. i run a mopar 440v8 because i didnt have a choice, id rather have a 460 ford, my name is charlie you can reach me at 2535903182 if you ever need engine repair or any work like the control panel, let me know i have one you can have. i run a fleetwood as well and had the same problem, now i dont.
i got into what i do because my family has relied on chevy and ford dealerships for scheduled services that were never getting done and so when i got involved i realized that mechanics usually do not do what you get charged for, if anything you may need to pop the hood and pull on your belts to see which ones are loose. they should only have enough slack to move about a CM or 2
I've watched this a couple times and the message is very rambling. You compare a fully equipped Class C to a fully equipped Class B but then toss in photos of a stripped down Econline van. You obviously prefer Class C and the Econoline, but not the fully-equipped Class B because it is smaller and does not "blend in". You ask about buying ice every day, bathroom at Walmart, shower at truckstops. Objection your honor! Leading the witness! Fully equipped Class B's have a freezer, have a bathroom, have a shower. Here is a video does a good job of presenting a different view of a Class B. Why chose a Class B RV? Roadtreking across America - A Journalist discovers RVing
He was talking about converted "stealth" van. Vans that have been converted to campers. My family had a factory conversion like that back in the late 70's. A Ford Contempo van. No fridge or bathroom, but a hand pump sink and ice box.
takes a certain kind of person to do a class b or van most can.t do it it takes a certain kind of skill set to survive most to dont have that rv type call AAA and stay in parks that cost as much or more than rent ???? most people are mad or haters when they see vandwellers doing what they are attempting and doing just good or in most cases better then they are hank said it best country boys will survive the more you have the harder you fall...........most people would die if the stores were empty lol omg what should i do ........... VANDWELLERS ARE BETTER !!!!!!!!! ps i got fridge,heater, tv, toilet, bed ,coolers, solar, sun deck ie roof rack , a/c............and the list goes on ...................
Great video. I have a Class B and as you said there are good and bad points to everything. That is where I see the beauty in all the different types of RVs - there truly is something for everyone out there and with each decision as you said there are trade-offs to be made. I also agree that I am not fooling ANYONE or being stealthy in my Class B. I have done similar videos and think I will do another one on this topic.
Nomadic Fanatic working on it....
Be funny if this Eric could go into the future and see the current Eric.
I live in a Semi Truck with ZERO amenities besides a bed. For years, I never ever had a cooler. A converted Econoline is an upgrade for me. This truck has a ton of overhead space, enough to fall to my death from the top bunk. I could install a trampoline and not hit the roof, but I can't extend my arms and turn a full 360 degrees with hitting cabinets.
For cooking, I used a coleman stove and a backpackers stove for a while. It cooked food outside just fine. Some drivers have small BBQs and charcoal. Many just set up a camping circle right in the parking lot with a fire blazing in the BBQ. It's like a tailgating.
They thing that is missing from any sized RV or Truck, are other people. Sometimes it is great to have company, but it doesn't matter how much space you have when you need solitude.
A Class could provide enough separation for personal privacy, but a class B might require one of you to set up a tent outside or 👍 for a ride. It really depends on the situation in which the RV is used.
I spent 4 months in a truck team driving. It started off as friends, but I've never spoken to the other dude ever since. Like you said, there needs to be space in some way that fits your personal needs.
It was fun watching this...now Eric's in a class B. but he customized his way! Go Eric!
I'v got both. Unfortunately will not be able to live in either anytime soon, but the choice is there. Thanks for the advise
It's all about one's personal comfort levels. I have dogs & stuff. I'm actually looking for a bigger ClassC with basement storage. That would make life so much easier for me & the dogs! But that's me & I find it odd how others are always telling me what "they think" I need. My other vehicle is actually a full sized hi top Dodge van. It was my dog mobile when I traveled all over the country with my dogs, but no, I would not want to live in it. But again, that's just me. I admire those that actually take a typical van & turn it into their personal living space. It intrigues me on how they conform them. Recently I found a channel from someone, oh, Delirious Donut I think is his channel name. How he conformed his van is amazing! I get around 9.5 mpg in my ClassC, he said he gets around 10-12mpg in his cargo van. My van, I got around 16 mpg in it.
I like ClassB's too, but they are too small for my needs - that goes without saying since I said I'm looking for a bigger C.
There are many reason's why we stick with what we do too. Some want motorized vehicles, some want to tow. Some need huge living spaces, some not so much. Some folks can live with just a weeks worth of clothing & be happy. Again, it's just how one chooses to live their lives.
On the ClassB's & going stealth. I question how many people actually pay attention when one talks of the general public. I find most folks that aren't versed in RV's really don't know the difference between a regular van, a camper van, to a ClassB.
The roof leak?! do you not do a follow up on the roof leak?
Never thought such a video would cause such a fuss. As Eric mentioned choosing an RV class is personal decision based on your lifestyle. Living space, maintainability, cost and what you want to do with it is based on your decisions. I went with a class C because it gave the best bang for the buck. Most the class A were too trashed out for the same price and the class B's were ridiculous for ones that were halfway descent.
Some good advice Eric. If you don't mind doing without some conveniences of a larger RV a camper van or converted van might be the way to go. I have been looking at smaller fifth wheels because I already own a pick up truck. I thought about a slide in in camper, but my issue is I want to set up a base camp someplace, and have a vehicle free to take where I want on short trips or ones where a class C or B can't go. I am also considering the option of a smaller motorcycle for just putting around.
Chris you really need to take a look at the wide bodied class B's..these are about 1.5 ft to 2 ft wider than the standard van. That extra width opens all sorts of options on floor layout and functionality.. Also fuel economy is a plus for vans.. my Roadtrek 210 which is a wide bodied van consistently got 21 mpg (US)..It was a diesel.
Sure, vans (Like old and modern high top Westfalia's) stick out - but if you've got a normal colour, say, dark blue, you're sorted. Grab some tinted windows, black out curtains and you're sorted. They certainly don't stick out as much as the Class C you have. Having the convenience of having a living area, with a table, and a fridge, kitchen area, with a sink and 2 burner stove, a toilet and a shower, with a double bed in the roof is certainly worth having a high top camper van.
Hi rv fellas,
A brief story about how I became an rv ier, back in 2010 I was living in an rv, although I lived there for just 1 month, long enough to fall in love with the RV life, even though it was parked on a house driveway and hooked to the sewer,now in 2014 due to financial strugle, I decided to take the challenge, bought a 18 " tioga sportsman rv, live in a very private industrial area among three other rv's, I really love living off the grid, got a job, pay no bills, no rent etc, got my own portable power supplier, my little home is just the way I dreamed it, ..... it has all the amenities I need, but seriously I was thinking about buying a camper van so I can park anywhere on the streets or avenues, but then. I will lose space ,
Greetings from So Cal
April 10th 2015...looking back on this vid. 2/15/14...funny how we change our minds..now you're in a van and loving it. I'm looking into a camper van myslef. Stay strong, erick!
We fully agree with you! It all has to do with individual needs / preferences. What works for some, not necessarily works for others! :)
I really appreciate your follow up ... Most don't get back to you
Home made conversions can be quite far. I have a hitop ford transit panel van, 17ft long (9-10ft cell length), with a bathroom (with shower), fridge (45L), stove, 2 persons bed (converted from L shaped seat), 200 amps power, 200W solar, 24/17 fresh/waster galon tanks. From the outside it is quite stealthy and when traveling when I get pulled over by the police, I am often asked what load I'm carrying - cos they don't realize its a camper van.
So, stealthy camper van with the benefits of a motorhome is mostly possible. There is only one thing you definitely lose, space and besides being creative with the layout, you have to struck a compromise between storage space and not wanting to be cramped.
I'm interested in seeing your vehicle. Do you have a site or a channel?
Che M. I didn't have a chance to put much online, but you can see the 3D model here:imgur.com/YgwG3yk
If you have questions just let me know.
Hey Eric, Hubs and I have been watching your videos the past 6 months or so and it's so cool to see how you've grown as a creator! Ha you even got better looking! ;)
Your videos are so fun! You even inspired us to try one out so we rented an older class B last week and we're hooked! Of course we wouldn't be living in it full time, but dang we could have hung out in it for a long long time! :)
i think the smaller rv's like those older toyotas are perfect they have all the comforts,without having to drive the huge typical rv everywhere..
Yeah, good gas mileage too, but I had a terrible lemon in mine.
I've got one of those. An 87 Toyota New Horizon. It's great for just me when I'm contracting. Not so great for family camping thou.
The great thing is they don't up much space. The bad thing is a little 4 banger hauling all that weight around.
for me, i live a 78 class A. and i like being able to reach up with my big toe and turn on the furnace to take the chill off before i climb out of bed. the thought of getting out of bed in the middle of the night to walk across the parking lot at wal mart to use the restroom is just not the way to go.
I love your cat! :D My husband and I have a daughter who will turn 4 in April. We are thinking of buying some land and living in an RV for a time until we are able to build an off-grid home. But this is only a dream at the moment and we won't be able to for at least a few more years. We also have 2 cats and a small dog, so life will be interesting once we set out! lol
Well, I agree that a class B motorhome is very small. I consider 2 very important differences when comparing a camper van to a class A or C rv. If you travel a lot, a class B will be (1) a lot cheaper on gas and (2) easier to park and drive. A class C will be a lot roomier of course, but like you pointed out, you stick out a lot more. That van chassis has to pull a lot of weight, so engine, transmission and tires are going to be sollicitated a bit more (class A's are just too expensive there). I think for short or medium trips as well as staying for a while in the same spot, a class C will be more convienient and comfortable though. You can also buy nice used ones for an affordable price. But for me, planning to travel extensively (10,000 miles and up) on each trip, a class B makes more sense.
I like class bs because there small and you don't have to fill up all the corners, spaces and more stuff you don't need. So thats just my opinion. If you don't mind answering this question can you paint the inside of your RV? I'm just wondering. Thank you for sharing your idea's.
Eric, let me ask, how much stuff will i need to bring on board: towels, sheets, dishes, cups and things u can think of that make life on the road low baggage and fun? Thanks
Nomadic Fanatic Normally I would thumb up your videos and say you are spot on and know what you're talking about. This video you don't. Check out Road Trek, Triple E, Winnebago Era, Great West Vans, and Pleasure Way. All those Van Class B RV companies are the cream of the crop when it comes to a Class B RV. They have a built in toilet, shower, king sized bed, or queen, they have chairs that swivel so you can use every inch of your living space. They have a full size fridge in Road Treks CS 2014 model. In that model it's all Electric meaning you can run your TV, Fridge, AC all night and you will not run out of power. You can start up your engine for 30 minutes and you're batteries will be completely recharged. You haven't done much research into Class B's I can tell. I would strongly recommend you check out Road Treks' CS, RS, E-Trek and Triple E's Class B models. Their models will blow you away in comfort and amenities. The Road Treks CS has a full sized fridge, bath, toilet, bed, and microwave. So I'm unsure where you're getting your information from that Class B's you have to shower in a Wal-Mart?
Great info. also you have a generator most vans don't.
How about the wood panels can they be painted? Thank you for answering...
I just watched this in November 2019. Funny how the progress, there are so many "van build" company's out now. I would love a RV but my budget says "not in this life time honey"! So I'll keep searching for a camper van.
If I remember correctly you touched on this in previous vids but being in a Class B you're going to run into the unfortunate negative stereo types that come with living in a van. The RV life has a stigma no matter what you're in but you're really going to find it when you live in a van. People think you're homeless, you're poor, you're dirty and they don't want you any where around them. Sadly, we all know those things aren't always true but in this economy sadly sometimes it is. To some people, living in a van isn't much better than living on a street. People need to be prepared to deal with that and know HOW to deal with it effectively.
This is a really good subject. Been trying to figure out which way is gonna be best for the small budget that I am working with. I'm leaning towards the RV C class because of the space like you mentioned; it's just myself and two small dogs. Plus, I do like to shower on my own terms and in my own space- at least once every month or so! LOL! ...I did have a question if you get to it also- from another video I saw: Did you decide on the GoPro or the Canon camcorder? Thanks. Have a good one.
Hello could you make a video on how to make a youtube video and what camera recording equipment that you use PS love all your videos happy trails and God bless.
I think if you're going on a few days up to a week trip, and it's one or two of you, a class B would work and would probably get better gas mileage. If it were longer than a week stay and more than 2 people, a class C or A would be better. Plus you could tow a vehicle, and just park the motorhome at the site.
I'm looking to become an RV full time person ... what size and year model is yours ... how much do you think average cost of a decent units
Can you make a video on what to do when you in counter the police?
I have a full size van that has the extended rear, sofa bed, blinds, curtains, etc. It does not have the raised roof, though. It could make a great conversion, but - like you - I need my bathroom and kitchen space. I could not live the van life.
Hi just had a question on your videos I enjoy all of your videos but what camera do you use to record your videos it has awesome clarity to it. And do you bother you though showing how you make good TH-cam video I'm really interested in making some. I'm going to be traveling in my van and I would like to start my own TH-cam channel . Happy trails to you keep on truckin
what about the clark cortez rv? oh the 1960s - 70s dodge xplorer rv?
Hi Eric! Could you give some advices or tips on how to buy a good rv such as yours with price under 5k? I mean on what things you should take a look in first place.
P.s And it would great if you will make a video about that, and showing the stuff that you need to take a look at first place right on your rv:) Ofcorse if you had a time for this and if you think that its a nice idea.
Great videos, many thx
do you find that an older RV can be a good RV ... not a money pit?
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I think you do have a point, to an extent. A Class B, no matter how, will have air conditioner. Either on top, or at the back. And this will scream RV. The next thing is the awning. However, for a single person or two, Class B should be enough. However, some will feel claustrophobic, so they are better off with Class C or 5th wheel. A truck camper actually smaller than class B (except for the big one) and some people do able to live in them. Different people require different stuff I guess.
I had a small pull behind...loved the fact I had another vehicle.
To me a van is something without insulation making it very difficult to live in during the winter and very hot in the summer. Of course some camper vans don't have showers or toilets which is roughing it too much for me!
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It was good when I had one - but I could not go back now!!
***** Both you and Eric are mistaken about not having a shower or toilet. I've taken it upon myself to attach the links to where Class B RV's have a king sized bed, shower, toilet, kitchen, closet space, and have heating / cooling within them. If you want a dry bath LTV is the one for you. If you want a van that has all you can have power than Road Trek is for you. You can run all you want electricity and recharge by running your engine for 30 minutes then shutting it off and having your power back. Here are the links:
www.roadtrek.com/
www.leisurevans.com/about/
www.pleasureway.com/?gclid=CjkKEQjw5-OdBRDW3ceD9fL0r4QBEiQAW7htXZG7s7HeMYhIgGrksjLxRZadufSjEvZsUBmHLTZLdEfw_wcB
www.greatwestvans.com/
www.winnebagotouring.com/
Nomadic Fanatic a porter potty? Sounds like the people you interviewed had a van they converted themselves into a Class B RV on their own dime. That's not a Class B RV. That's still technically a day camper. A Class B RV by detention has to have a bed, toilet, shower, sink, fridge, and stove. If any of those items are missing it's not a Class B it's someone's attempt at making a Class B RV. I understand some companies in the 1950's and 60's tried their hand at making what they called RV's. Yet that isn't so. Just because they slap the words RV on their crappy product doesn't make it a RV. It's a Day Camper. The first companies to make a official Class B RV was Winnebago, LTV, and Road Trek. They're still in business today.
www.coachhouserv.com/model-V24.php
Coach House just released their version of a Class B. This knocks Road Trek, Pleasure Way, LTV, GWV, and Winnebago's model out of the water. It has a dry bath, coats for two people to separately bunk, full sized fridge and freezer, microwave, stove, sink, and a table up front in which to eat at. All the areas for sleeping, eating and bathroom are separated. This is awesome. Now this is a Class B.
For years i traveled in a tiny sailboat the main cabin was 4.5 feet/ length 7' width/5 ' width kerosene lamps for, light and 5 gal bucket for a head. Wood stove for heat No right or wrong answers. Obviously I'm fairly rough guy But I sailed into places the big boy couldn't go. Its whatever you like.
i'll take my 72' VW Westfalia over either the motorhome, ''or class b'' It gets 30 mpg, can get way further into the woods, and away from other people with both it's size, and weight over the rear drive tires for traction.. we have all the amenities such as sink, toilet, shower (out door), sleeps 4 (we have 2 kids) , stove, and fridge. When in the national forest, we pop the top, and can stand up inside. When wanting to remain stealth (which we rarely do bc at 30 mpg, we can afford to drive to the national forest), we just leave the top down, and shut the curtains.. I am currently installing a home made wood stove for extreme cold camping/ ice fishing.
Stinking cool E.Jacobs,btw did Morgan make you toss the t-shirt,lol.....seriously could you see yourself in a big honkin class a? Thanks buddy,looking forward to your quick response!
Waited till 2019,couldnt wait any longer,lol,Morgan gone,Angela gone twice,and class c gone,and now Big man is haulin his gear in a class a......no need to respond,did it for ya!
one difference is, it's easier for most people to stay indoors during bad weather inside a class c RV versus a smaller van.
I can see your point of view but are you comparing a normal van that was converted or a 20 foot camper van like Chris penn has, because there is a BIG difference in the 2. On is like 10-14 feet long and the other Is 18-23 feet long.
Oh, ok. But nice video man, keep them coming and have a nice day. Talk to you later
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Actually, you talk about at least 3 types - fully equipped Class C motorhome, fully equipped Class B motorhome, and a stripped down Econoline van. And you toss in the term camper van occasionally. A confusing comparison.
First of, I love your videos. I've watched every one. I can wait for you to get on the road and doing some camping.
As for Class C vs Class B, you are right, people need to make up their own minds about what they want. But you kind of short-changed the advantages of a Class B in your video. A Class B is a whole lot more than trying to be stealthy. It is easier to drive, easier to park, gets much, much better gas mileage than a Class C or Class A. And, it holds its resale value a lot better than a Class C. I wouldn't try to travel with more than one other person in Class B; but luckily I'm retired and travel alone..
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Maybe I am wrong. What kind of mileage do you get? If you said, I missed it. I think that the best Class C I looked at got 12 to 15 MPG. If you are getting better than that, kudos, and my apology..
I have a Roadtrek CS Adventurous built on a Mercedes Sprinter with a turbo diesel engine. I was told I should get 18 mpg city, 22 mpg highway. I have to admit, the best I have gotten so far is 20 mpg on a tankful of diesel (all highway). I'm told it will get better when the engine is fully broken-in. That is 33% better than 15 MPG. I would call that a significant difference.
I looked at Class C RVs when I was buying; and I have to admit, I am envious of the extra storage. There were several that I gave serious thought to buying.
Toluca47
I was replying to a comment of yours that seems to have disappeared.
I'm not sure what happened
Toluca47 Your RoadTrek CS Adventurous gets more MPG than Eric's ancient class C. You have everything Eric does yet you can park in a cars parking spot. Also your RV is worth more than Eric's. He more than likely deleted his comments.
Only real advantage Class B has over Class C is maneuverability. That may not matter for some, but is a huge deal for others. Parking can be a big deal too. Otherwise, Class C all the way. I have a Class B, but I don't live in it. Beats a tent for camping.
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What do you ya'll think about the Dodge Xplorer like the one Chris Travels uses? Does that count as an RV or a Camper Van? Is it the best of both worlds or the worst of both worlds, or the worst and the best? Is it "stealthy" if you don't put a ton of junk on top of it?
Chris's van seems to not have a high top roof (or he's really tall). Most I've seen do have the high top. In answer to your question, Xplorers are fine but I decided not to go with one because most of the ones I've seen didn't have a rear door. I recommend looking at some other manufacturers before making a final decision. Check out Roadtrek, Pleasure Way, Leisure Travel, and Coach House (my personal favorite).
Google VW T5 conversions and you will see how some over here in the UK do it, iv just got a brand new on and I'm just sorting out a conversion then I'm off to France...great vids thou..
So you don't like the idea of setting on the toilet and frying eggs?
As a camper van owner, I will admit I'm biased but I have to say vans beat out RV's in terms of day to day practicality.
1. A van works better as a daily driver. It will fit most parking spaces, drive-thrus and even in some public garages. Also better fuel economy.
2. A lot of cities have ordinances not allowing vehicles over 20 feet to park on city streets. The smallest RV's are longer than that.
3. Vans are just lower profile than RV's. This means less attention from cops and nosy neighbors wondering if someone is living in their vehicle.
Granted, my opinion might change if I had to live in my van full time but until that time I'll take my van over a class a or c motorhome.
We agree a class C is much beter
Well we have both a spinter thats blends jn easy , but class C Is much more comfort.
Hence thats why we bought a amercan class C ,altough we live in europe where things are much smaller like roads in towns and such ,but we always boondocking we never go to campgrounds
And in usa we love walmarkts al, over the usa
Somthings u right about space but in europe and uk rvs are not so popular and the ones here are just to expensive to even afford so u best alternative is a campervan which is why it more Popular some roads and tunnels are restricted to height and width so u have to watch that as well
Try a 1997 Dodge American cruiser it has all of that you said camper vans dont have
Have you ever lived in a class A motor home
Don't get me wrong when I say this Eric I like you I think you're good dude but I think you're completely wrong about vans
Ok thanks
Catzilla wants no part of living in a tiny van!
Your title is misleading, a class b is not a camper van mang. A class b is an rv like yours just smaller, a camper van is a van with few things inside.also i think you exaggerated a little on how cramped class b can get lol? I had both class c and b for about 6 years. I believe any class be specially a wide body is much better than any motor-home if you plan to live in it full time. Parking, driving, maintaining, fuel, efficiency in general, stealth, and finally coziness goes to class b. They are just freaking awesome. I remember when i used to wake up in a parking lot have a shower go mcdeeee drive through get coffee and breakfast park again watch the news and head to work with my motor home. how awesome is that?
What do you do for security? Do you own firearms? I love the cat man!
i was born and raised in an rv so my only thought to you is this, you are alot GREENER to the enviroment ronning a 32 amp rv (30A), instead of a house with a minimum of 400 amps and you then have to furnish the home, rvs come ready to go. i noticed you have a ford e350. i have rebuilt over a hundred 460v8 engines and i think you have one of the best power trains available for an 80s class c. i run a mopar 440v8 because i didnt have a choice, id rather have a 460 ford, my name is charlie you can reach me at 2535903182 if you ever need engine repair or any work like the control panel, let me know i have one you can have. i run a fleetwood as well and had the same problem, now i dont.
i got into what i do because my family has relied on chevy and ford dealerships for scheduled services that were never getting done and so when i got involved i realized that mechanics usually do not do what you get charged for, if anything you may need to pop the hood and pull on your belts to see which ones are loose. they should only have enough slack to move about a CM or 2
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I've watched this a couple times and the message is very rambling. You compare a fully equipped Class C to a fully equipped Class B but then toss in photos of a stripped down Econline van. You obviously prefer Class C and the Econoline, but not the fully-equipped Class B because it is smaller and does not "blend in".
You ask about buying ice every day, bathroom at Walmart, shower at truckstops. Objection your honor! Leading the witness! Fully equipped Class B's have a freezer, have a bathroom, have a shower.
Here is a video does a good job of presenting a different view of a Class B.
Why chose a Class B RV? Roadtreking across America - A Journalist discovers RVing
He was talking about converted "stealth" van. Vans that have been converted to campers. My family had a factory conversion like that back in the late 70's. A Ford Contempo van. No fridge or bathroom, but a hand pump sink and ice box.
John Benson Yes I thought the same thing he wasn’t comparing to fully equipped class b s that have everything
Vans are "cozy"
takes a certain kind of person to do a class b or van most can.t do it it takes a certain kind of skill set to survive most to dont have that rv type call AAA and stay in parks that cost as much or more than rent ???? most people are mad or haters when they see vandwellers doing what they are attempting and doing just good or in most cases better then they are hank said it best country boys will survive the more you have the harder you fall...........most people would die if the stores were empty lol omg what should i do ........... VANDWELLERS ARE BETTER !!!!!!!!!
ps i got fridge,heater, tv, toilet, bed ,coolers, solar, sun deck ie roof rack , a/c............and the list goes on ...................
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Not one of my favorite videos of yours