There are actually plans for 3 more/upgraded lines. Firstly, line 18 will be extended by around 3 km northeast to Stadion (U2). This should open in 2026. Secondly, a new Line 15 will be built together with the extended U2 subway line in the early to mid 2030s. This will go from Meidling (U6 + S-Bahn) via Wienerberg (U2) to Altes Landgut (U1) and around 4 km of tracks will need to be built for this. And lastly, but probably the most uncertain one: A new line 72 going from Simmering (U3, S-Bahn) beyond the city borders to Schwechat. The problem here lies with the different jurisdiction between Vienna and Lower Austria, the later often makes extensions outside of the city limits difficult. This extension would add another 2,75 km. No date has been announced as far as I can find.
I am from Vienna and I loved this video soo much!! You nailed the pronunciation of the stations and the video was very well structured and informative!! Thank you for covering our beautiful city!! :)
In the year since this video had been created, concrete plans for a new exciting tram line extension have been announced. This came pretty much out of nowhere (there are other projects which are much older and going nowhere) but will be probably the most valuable to the quality of the overall transit network of Vienna. It is the extension of line 18 from Schlachthausgasse, all the way through to the prater, connecting to U2 Stadion and terminating one stop later. With 3.1 km this is also the longest extension with a clear timeline. The value of that line is that it closes a radial connection gap and enables U2 passengers from Donaustadt to directly change at Stadion to go to the 3rd district. It appears a major helping factor for that project and its fairly timely opening date of 2026 is that the S-Bahn mainline will see a lengthy shutdown in 2027 due to the completion of a major capacity upgrade and overall renewal. The extended line 18 will be able to act as a replacement for the S-Bahn traffic originating from U2 transfers. Additionally the extended line 18 will be also one more line connecting directly to the Ernst-Happel-Stadion. This is the largest event and sports location of the city and is already connected to fascinating mass event specialized subway station (have a look at how that station works, it is rather unique). A full additional tram line will further enhance the already sizeable capacities to serve the Stadion.
jo man nice video! what I don't get is in the last minutes you said line 25 will be extended ffrom floridsdorf to josef baumann gasse, and showed a pic of josef baumann gasse to kagran. the thing is line 25 already goes from floridsdorf, via josef baumann gasse, via kagran and much further to aspern, as you showed us at 4:27. The location of the pic you showed us at the end, would be the one vertical part of the line top left to the middle of the screen.
Good spot! It has been a while since I made this video, so I would have to check. However, I think this street was mentioned within the article I used in my research. Thanks for the addition!
In my city Sofia used to have lot of tram lines and tram models but the metro line M2 made more then 10 LINES to stop or have smaller routes.... We used to have a lot of tram models but they are all replaced with tatra t6a2, inekons and pesa trams... and we have some bulgarian trams serving only line 11 due to no trams which soon will be replaced with more pesa trams.... we have a standard rails like on the trains too.... they are the worst.... build in 1970 they have never been upgraded... we use there only t6a5 (donated) , t6b5 and duweg trams only on line 23 becouse it ends with no turn just trams need to have 2 cabs for that.... And we plan to buy MORE peas trams to replace the old duweg and t6b5 trams....
I was in Sofia in 2023 and it was such a great experience, especially the trams and metro. My favourite was line 23 and the old Metro cars. Although, as someone from vienna, it was a completely different world
Unfortunately line 23 maybe soon be stopped because there are no trams on route and no one uses it but i am not sure what will happen to it @@austriankangaroo
@@viktoruzunov690 Oh no thats pretty sad, those old Düwag trams are so fun. What I also like about your system is that the tram doors open very early, like 5 meters before they stop. Did you know that some trams in sofia have the old announcement jinge from both the viennese trams and the austrian federal railways? And one more question, it was kind of hard for me to find any info on the shedule of line 23, so I waited for half an hour, but is there any app that locals use?
@@austriankangaroo well it have an app but i am not sure how to use it and no one uses it... We use google maps there have all stops and buses... And yeah line 23 operates only 2 trams...
It surprised me initially too. However, when thinking of it, Vienna’s tram lines are much more focused on local traffic, and the tram lines are rather short. Also, Vienna has 5 metro lines, which quite densely cover the city too. Prague has full higher density districts solely relying on its trams, like Barrandov or the new Holyně
@@realdronthego Just to flesh out Prague's context a bit more, it was a similar situation as what happened in Vienna in the Post-War. When the Prague Metro began opening, city planners assumed it as a replacement for the existing trams networks, they subsequently began reducing tram services in the early and mid 1980s (most egregiously removing the Tram connection between Václavské náměstí, the Main train station and Vinohrady). The metro then continued to expand in the 80-2000s to the extremities of the city, as it was a core component of the Socialist planning scheme for Prague Housing (namely that the city would be "deinhabited", residents would be moved into the verdant Panel Estates on the City's green periphery and commute to the remaining industrial center via metro). But since the Velvet Revolution, those plans were only half realized, and instead of tearing down the center, it was renovated to the current highly sought after condition. Now even these previous tram lines are actively planned to be restored, in 2025, in order to give the system redundancy in case of accidents or route blockages. New large developments in the historic brownfields (like Palmovka or Smíchov) also pay a portion of their budget to expanding existing infrastructure and lines. The city is very pro-active in new tram infrastructure since it takes much less time to build than the new metro lines (e.g. the new D line broke ground only in 2022 when originally planned for 2018, and won't be finished until 2032), and city politicians want visible infrastructure that they can point to as testimony of their tenure. Prague is also unlikely to invest heavily into electric buses in the future because of its geography, they are instead experimenting with electric trolley-buses, whose infrastructure is basically identical to trams in terms of overhead catenaries and easements. So these systems synergize well. Prague, though smaller on paper, roughly services a similar metropolitan net as Vienna (2,7M v 2,9M), since about half the city lives in the Central Bohemian region, on the other side of the Green belts, due to ease of access, cheap land, and easier construction permit processes. But unlike Vienna, Prague is very hilly, which makes use of the tram networks much more comfortable than for instance cycling (though the lack of adequate infrastructure for cycling is at greater fault here; only 1% of Prague's modal split is cycling, compared to Vienna's 9%). This is probably the main reason for high public transit usage (46% in Prague compared to 30% in Vienna), a since walking (29% in Prague vs 35% in Vienna) and automotive transport (23% in Prague vs 26% in Vienna) are not too dissimilar, with the hilliness probably impacting trips by walking as well. Despite this the Metro actually still has a higher ridership than the tram system (1.220.000 trips by tram vs 1.400.000 trips by metro per day). Globally, only Budapest has a higher tram ridership than Prague.
There are actually plans for 3 more/upgraded lines.
Firstly, line 18 will be extended by around 3 km northeast to Stadion (U2). This should open in 2026.
Secondly, a new Line 15 will be built together with the extended U2 subway line in the early to mid 2030s. This will go from Meidling (U6 + S-Bahn) via Wienerberg (U2) to Altes Landgut (U1) and around 4 km of tracks will need to be built for this.
And lastly, but probably the most uncertain one: A new line 72 going from Simmering (U3, S-Bahn) beyond the city borders to Schwechat. The problem here lies with the different jurisdiction between Vienna and Lower Austria, the later often makes extensions outside of the city limits difficult. This extension would add another 2,75 km. No date has been announced as far as I can find.
I am from Vienna and I loved this video soo much!! You nailed the pronunciation of the stations and the video was very well structured and informative!! Thank you for covering our beautiful city!! :)
Danke! That is great to hear😁
Ich auch bro
In the year since this video had been created, concrete plans for a new exciting tram line extension have been announced. This came pretty much out of nowhere (there are other projects which are much older and going nowhere) but will be probably the most valuable to the quality of the overall transit network of Vienna. It is the extension of line 18 from Schlachthausgasse, all the way through to the prater, connecting to U2 Stadion and terminating one stop later. With 3.1 km this is also the longest extension with a clear timeline. The value of that line is that it closes a radial connection gap and enables U2 passengers from Donaustadt to directly change at Stadion to go to the 3rd district.
It appears a major helping factor for that project and its fairly timely opening date of 2026 is that the S-Bahn mainline will see a lengthy shutdown in 2027 due to the completion of a major capacity upgrade and overall renewal. The extended line 18 will be able to act as a replacement for the S-Bahn traffic originating from U2 transfers.
Additionally the extended line 18 will be also one more line connecting directly to the Ernst-Happel-Stadion. This is the largest event and sports location of the city and is already connected to fascinating mass event specialized subway station (have a look at how that station works, it is rather unique). A full additional tram line will further enhance the already sizeable capacities to serve the Stadion.
very comprehensive and complete analysis. loved the video! congratulations
Thank you!!
Me just finding my school on the map
If i looked at this map i would instantly notice that it's a rich history behind missing lines
U-Bahn + Cars😅
jo man nice video! what I don't get is in the last minutes you said line 25 will be extended ffrom floridsdorf to josef baumann gasse, and showed a pic of josef baumann gasse to kagran. the thing is line 25 already goes from floridsdorf, via josef baumann gasse, via kagran and much further to aspern, as you showed us at 4:27. The location of the pic you showed us at the end, would be the one vertical part of the line top left to the middle of the screen.
Good spot! It has been a while since I made this video, so I would have to check. However, I think this street was mentioned within the article I used in my research. Thanks for the addition!
great video, but you forgot just one thing, the badner bahn.
Badner Bahn will come on a separate video one day.
In my city Sofia used to have lot of tram lines and tram models but the metro line M2 made more then 10 LINES to stop or have smaller routes.... We used to have a lot of tram models but they are all replaced with tatra t6a2, inekons and pesa trams... and we have some bulgarian trams serving only line 11 due to no trams which soon will be replaced with more pesa trams.... we have a standard rails like on the trains too.... they are the worst.... build in 1970 they have never been upgraded... we use there only t6a5 (donated) , t6b5 and duweg trams only on line 23 becouse it ends with no turn just trams need to have 2 cabs for that.... And we plan to buy MORE peas trams to replace the old duweg and t6b5 trams....
I was in Sofia in 2023 and it was such a great experience, especially the trams and metro. My favourite was line 23 and the old Metro cars. Although, as someone from vienna, it was a completely different world
Unfortunately line 23 maybe soon be stopped because there are no trams on route and no one uses it but i am not sure what will happen to it @@austriankangaroo
@@viktoruzunov690 Oh no thats pretty sad, those old Düwag trams are so fun. What I also like about your system is that the tram doors open very early, like 5 meters before they stop. Did you know that some trams in sofia have the old announcement jinge from both the viennese trams and the austrian federal railways? And one more question, it was kind of hard for me to find any info on the shedule of line 23, so I waited for half an hour, but is there any app that locals use?
@@austriankangaroo well it have an app but i am not sure how to use it and no one uses it... We use google maps there have all stops and buses... And yeah line 23 operates only 2 trams...
interesting, after play a sim of vienna trams its cool to see how it really works irl
Yes😁 seeing familiar locations in real life 😁
great video! i didn't know that trams in vienna are less used than trams in prague, that's interesting
It surprised me initially too. However, when thinking of it, Vienna’s tram lines are much more focused on local traffic, and the tram lines are rather short. Also, Vienna has 5 metro lines, which quite densely cover the city too. Prague has full higher density districts solely relying on its trams, like Barrandov or the new Holyně
@@realdronthego Just to flesh out Prague's context a bit more, it was a similar situation as what happened in Vienna in the Post-War. When the Prague Metro began opening, city planners assumed it as a replacement for the existing trams networks, they subsequently began reducing tram services in the early and mid 1980s (most egregiously removing the Tram connection between Václavské náměstí, the Main train station and Vinohrady). The metro then continued to expand in the 80-2000s to the extremities of the city, as it was a core component of the Socialist planning scheme for Prague Housing (namely that the city would be "deinhabited", residents would be moved into the verdant Panel Estates on the City's green periphery and commute to the remaining industrial center via metro). But since the Velvet Revolution, those plans were only half realized, and instead of tearing down the center, it was renovated to the current highly sought after condition. Now even these previous tram lines are actively planned to be restored, in 2025, in order to give the system redundancy in case of accidents or route blockages. New large developments in the historic brownfields (like Palmovka or Smíchov) also pay a portion of their budget to expanding existing infrastructure and lines. The city is very pro-active in new tram infrastructure since it takes much less time to build than the new metro lines (e.g. the new D line broke ground only in 2022 when originally planned for 2018, and won't be finished until 2032), and city politicians want visible infrastructure that they can point to as testimony of their tenure. Prague is also unlikely to invest heavily into electric buses in the future because of its geography, they are instead experimenting with electric trolley-buses, whose infrastructure is basically identical to trams in terms of overhead catenaries and easements. So these systems synergize well.
Prague, though smaller on paper, roughly services a similar metropolitan net as Vienna (2,7M v 2,9M), since about half the city lives in the Central Bohemian region, on the other side of the Green belts, due to ease of access, cheap land, and easier construction permit processes. But unlike Vienna, Prague is very hilly, which makes use of the tram networks much more comfortable than for instance cycling (though the lack of adequate infrastructure for cycling is at greater fault here; only 1% of Prague's modal split is cycling, compared to Vienna's 9%). This is probably the main reason for high public transit usage (46% in Prague compared to 30% in Vienna), a since walking (29% in Prague vs 35% in Vienna) and automotive transport (23% in Prague vs 26% in Vienna) are not too dissimilar, with the hilliness probably impacting trips by walking as well. Despite this the Metro actually still has a higher ridership than the tram system (1.220.000 trips by tram vs 1.400.000 trips by metro per day). Globally, only Budapest has a higher tram ridership than Prague.
Thank you for this detailed addition! 😁
Strange, only one line from one side of the river to another.
Surprised me as well😅
Cause fever people live on the other side
There are subway and trains so ist is not necessary.
Most of Transdanubia (left bank of the Danube) was built during the post ww2 car hype, when trams were seen as obsolete.
because there are 3 metro lines and 2 S-Bahn Lines