If you guys like these videos, make sure to subscribe and I'll keep posting them! What a fantastic match-up between these 2 cars. You have the heavy hitter... a 1969 Camaro SS396 L78, but in the other corner is possibly the sleeper of the century, a 1964 Studebaker Challenger with a R3 engine that is topped with a Paxton supercharger. I can't thank the owners enough for bring these cars out and hitting the drag strip!
Ted Harbit has been rowing the gears on the 'Plain Brown Wrapper' since 1998. There's a mention of him in this month's Hemming's Muscle Machine's article on the 25th anniversary of the Stanton Pure Stock Drags- and the fact that Ted's 84 years young! And the 'Wrapper is #3 in the list of the 5 fastest small blocks with a 12.714 @111.24mph. Ain't bad for an engine that's been out of production for 55 years!
My '57 Studebaker Golden Hawk had the supercharged 289 engine and a 3 speed with overdrive. It also came with 4:30 rear gears! Who ever ordered this car wanted the quickest around, that's for sure.
@@netrioter I doubt that there was a person on the planet that would shell out 10G for a STUDEBAKER in 1964 not even the Shelby Cobra’s had such a price tag never mind something shaped like a giant brown lunch box.
As has been mentioned, the Stude Challenger R3 has often been driven by Ted Harbit. With its 304.5 cu in engine, the Brown Paper Wrapper has less torque than big block cars, and struggles to keep up off the line. But I believe Ted has said that, if the race was close in the early going, he knew he would win because, once the supercharger got really kicked in, there were few muscle cars who could keep up with the R3. Also, because the R3 engine is so rare, Ted was under strict instructions from owner George Krem not to exceed 6000 rpm. Andy Granatelli claimed that he shifted at 8000 rpm while racing prototype R3 Avantis, so Brown Paper Wrapper may have untapped potential that will never be seen.
Love that old studeeeee! Both guys know how to row a JERK YOUR OWN!!! LOL! Amazing how those baby rats wake up with some gearing. Rec port heads are too much for the baby rat. We now use a 781 or 049 big oval port head with the rec port 2.19/1.88 valves and easily get into the low11s on pump gas. A big block chevy under 500 cubes for street/strip= big oval port heads. A big chevy street/ strip over 500 CI. can use the rec port heads. My tractor pulling buddy taught me all this back in the day. Good to check in with you bro. Let me know if you did some research on the. buick stage 3 stuff! By the way that stude 289 is terribly heavy for that size engine, very beefy but too much for an engine under 300 ci. But anyway, studebaker made andy granatelli proud!
That Studebaker was one bad mammyjacker. I saw a Studebaker pickup the other day too. What is this , Studebaker week? Has an unknown relative left me a mint Studebaker in their will? Now ill go get a lottery ticket.
Read an article in a hot Rod magazine many years ago about George Krem and the name of the article was Plain Brown Wrapper. I wonder if they took that name from the article or if it was called that before?
It was best of three. The Studebaker underestimated the 396 with 4.56 gears and got smoked on the tree and flat out ran in round one and and lost by a couple of cars. The second race he slept again and even though he ran quicker and faster this time the Camaro got there before him and got the win light, no need for a third race. This is one of only a very few races that I’ve seen the Studebaker lose, that car is hard to beat in this class.
What I have read is that they can use anything in their cars that could have been ordered from the factory. And I believe the R3 had different Supercharger pulleys to boost the pressure a pound or two above the R2.
The Stude gave up almost 100 cubes, BUT, that blower more than made up the difference. If only Studebaker had a concerned management. Kind of reminds me of todays' corporations. Future? No, $$ now.
At first, Studebaker didn't publish HP ratings for R-series engines, but the R3 was eventually rated at 335 HP. But they were still playing games . . . Andy Granatelli built the R3 engines and they all were 400 hp or more on the dyno. The Plain Brown Wrapper engine dyno'd at 440 hp. There were only 9 R3 Avantis and 1 R3 Lark built by the factory. The Plain Brown Wrapper didn't come with the R3 engine from the factory. But George Krem bought the R3 engine from the factory and put it in the car shortly after he bought it.
I love your videos, but please pay more attention to the edits. Round 3 was underway when it cut away to your typical stock footage. I would have loved to see the ending of the tie breaker.
Sounds to me like you need to pay more attention. What you’re referring to at the end is the closing sequence (stock footage as you call it) used in all videos around that time. If you watch and listen, it’s just a clip from round two. There was no round three filmed that year.
If you guys like these videos, make sure to subscribe and I'll keep posting them!
What a fantastic match-up between these 2 cars. You have the heavy hitter... a 1969 Camaro SS396 L78, but in the other corner is possibly the sleeper of the century, a 1964 Studebaker Challenger with a R3 engine that is topped with a Paxton supercharger. I can't thank the owners enough for bring these cars out and hitting the drag strip!
@@normhodgkinson6965 - I love that Studebaker. Honestly, it's probably my favorite car at the Pure Stocks. Looks like a grandpa car, but crazy fast.
@@normhodgkinson6965 For sure. I'd really like to see what that car could run with drag radials
I encourage every car person get to know Studebaker. They made some really interesting cars. Very cool.
WOW !! That Stude was SNEAKY fast !!!!! Probably ruined more than one night on the main , for cocky big block owners !!!!!!
Yes, they definitely did! I mean, that one is perfectly tuned-up, but they were all pretty quick!
Ted Harbit has been rowing the gears on the 'Plain Brown Wrapper' since 1998. There's a mention of him in this month's Hemming's Muscle Machine's article on the 25th anniversary of the Stanton Pure Stock Drags- and the fact that Ted's 84 years young! And the 'Wrapper is #3 in the list of the 5 fastest small blocks with a 12.714 @111.24mph. Ain't bad for an engine that's been out of production for 55 years!
My '57 Studebaker Golden Hawk had the supercharged 289 engine and a 3 speed with overdrive. It also came with 4:30 rear gears! Who ever ordered this car wanted the quickest around, that's for sure.
The Studebaker was a year before the supposed first muscle car. I bet a 389 tri-power goat wouldn't beat that little R3
The crazy thing is that Studebaker was supercharging quite a few cars even in the 50s but no one really sees them as muscle cars either
@@CarsAndZebras the fast Studebakers..were 10000+ dollars new...upwards of 85 thousand today. They only made a handful of the crazy ones
@net-rioter That R3 powered Studebaker sold for about $4,000 in 1964, not $10,000. I’m not aware of any Studebaker that cost anywhere near $10k new.
@@netrioter I doubt that there was a person on the planet that would shell out 10G for a STUDEBAKER in 1964 not even the Shelby Cobra’s had such a price tag never mind something shaped like a giant brown lunch box.
As has been mentioned, the Stude Challenger R3 has often been driven by Ted Harbit. With its 304.5 cu in engine, the Brown Paper Wrapper has less torque than big block cars, and struggles to keep up off the line. But I believe Ted has said that, if the race was close in the early going, he knew he would win because, once the supercharger got really kicked in, there were few muscle cars who could keep up with the R3. Also, because the R3 engine is so rare, Ted was under strict instructions from owner George Krem not to exceed 6000 rpm. Andy Granatelli claimed that he shifted at 8000 rpm while racing prototype R3 Avantis, so Brown Paper Wrapper may have untapped potential that will never be seen.
First car I drove by myself around the fields when I was a kid was a 64 Studebaker. It really ripped!
Brings me back to my teenage years, the sounds of those cars is music 🎵
The Studebaker was pretty impressive with 12 second runs
The little Stude sleeper woke up the Christmas tree
I miss those days...
Love that old studeeeee! Both guys know how to row a JERK YOUR OWN!!! LOL! Amazing how those baby rats wake up with some gearing. Rec port heads are too much for the baby rat. We now use a 781 or 049 big oval port head with the rec port 2.19/1.88 valves and easily get into the low11s on pump gas. A big block chevy under 500 cubes for street/strip= big oval port heads. A big chevy street/ strip over 500 CI. can use the rec port heads. My tractor pulling buddy taught me all this back in the day. Good to check in with you bro. Let me know if you did some research on the. buick stage 3 stuff! By the way that stude 289 is terribly heavy for that size engine, very beefy but too much for an engine under 300 ci. But anyway, studebaker made andy granatelli proud!
That Studebaker was one bad mammyjacker.
I saw a Studebaker pickup the other day too.
What is this , Studebaker week?
Has an unknown relative left me a mint Studebaker in their will?
Now ill go get a lottery ticket.
Make sure you share those winnings with me!
From manufacturing wagon’s to the ultimate sleeper 🤔😂
Wow.........Rd 2 was a damned close race!!!
Sweet L78 Camaro. Any L78 powered Chevy is a bad machine. Don't know much about those blown Studebaker's
If the Studee R3 wasn't rowing his own he'd probably shave at least a few more tenths.
I know a while back he was thinking about trying an auto trans, but not sure if he actually did it
Read an article in a hot Rod magazine many years ago about George Krem and the name of the article was Plain Brown Wrapper. I wonder if they took that name from the article or if it was called that before?
Ol boy was moving the stude and had some nice loose shocks up front.
The little Stude sleeper woke up the
What happened to the last race?
George Krem is the fastest trombonist I've ever known.
What happened in round 3!!!????
They hugged it out and sang kumbaya. It was truly touching
@@CarsAndZebras sniff!
It was best of three. The Studebaker underestimated the 396 with 4.56 gears and got smoked on the tree and flat out ran in round one and and lost by a couple of cars. The second race he slept again and even though he ran quicker and faster this time the Camaro got there before him and got the win light, no need for a third race. This is one of only a very few races that I’ve seen the Studebaker lose, that car is hard to beat in this class.
What's the Pure Stock class rule for changing pulley ratios on the Superchargers? Or crank pulleys on N/A cars?
What I have read is that they can use anything in their cars that could have been ordered from the factory. And I believe the R3 had different Supercharger pulleys to boost the pressure a pound or two above the R2.
The Stude gave up almost 100 cubes, BUT, that blower more than made up the difference. If only Studebaker had a concerned management. Kind of reminds me of todays' corporations. Future? No, $$ now.
R3 made 400hp I believe ?
At first, Studebaker didn't publish HP ratings for R-series engines, but the R3 was eventually rated at 335 HP. But they were still playing games . . . Andy Granatelli built the R3 engines and they all were 400 hp or more on the dyno. The Plain Brown Wrapper engine dyno'd at 440 hp. There were only 9 R3 Avantis and 1 R3 Lark built by the factory. The Plain Brown Wrapper didn't come with the R3 engine from the factory. But George Krem bought the R3 engine from the factory and put it in the car shortly after he bought it.
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Oops- I hit the dislike button by mistake. I definitely LIKE the video!
I love your videos, but please pay more attention to the edits. Round 3 was underway when it cut away to your typical stock footage. I would have loved to see the ending of the tie breaker.
Sounds to me like you need to pay more attention. What you’re referring to at the end is the closing sequence (stock footage as you call it) used in all videos around that time. If you watch and listen, it’s just a clip from round two. There was no round three filmed that year.