That was just great,, you may need to fix a metallic plate around the shaft of agitator, when foam goes up to the surface, the plate will push it outwards
Liked, shared and commenting. That kitchen reminds me of mine. If mine was cleaner lol. Lost my wife a couple years ago n the kitchen evolved into a shop. I have a wood splitter, a tabletop grinder (to send Sparks into the dog hair along the walls), and a table saw. Lol.
🤣Well mine would probably be the same , but my Missus would kill me if i did that , luckily she doesn't mind so long as i put it back the way it was when i'm finished , cheers mate , Ned .
If fine gold particles are freed after roasting, and can be seen easily,, do we need a collector to float them or just oil and oxygen while agitating??
whats the rate of recovery for this process you are using mate? i know someone who does this commercially for a mine in south Australia but they are reluctant to share the entire process with me. I have some rich ore that im trying to process and trying to avoid the likes of cyanide or mercurcy. After this process did you simply do a melt with borax ?
Flexicone Know-How leaching technology. For the processing of refractory gold-bearing , sulphide and tellurides ores. Flexicone has developed a unique enrichment technology. The technology includes the processes by centrifugal gravity separation, oxidation of sulphides , extraction of gold and platinum group metals by leaching leaching of gold, silver and palladium.
So the gold will remain in the top pan B-cuz it's heavier, or are you agitating the water with the surfactant so have the recoverable's rise to be skim it off? One of those nets used for collecting fish from aquariums might work sufficiently for you.
There is a mine with a capacity of 15ton per hour crushing and grinding, there is a froth floatation machine, about the collector and frother how much have to be added per hour to float the sulphades
The collector or reagent is Sodium Ethyle Xanthate ,preferred for pyrite ores , if you live in Australia you can't buy it unless your a mining corporation , it's highly volatile , I make my own , also the frother is pine oil ,but rather expensive ,and not so easy to find in large quantities ,so I use Pine Tarsol readily available from a chemist , I hope that helps you out ,
Well am on way to Mr D mate but going for a look at Glen Elgin area Cruise around the area see if I stay till following weekend to catch u up Cheers the Crouch
Try to grab that book I told you about at the little shop opposite the pub ,if you can still get it , it's a good read , with a lot of historical mining information and location ,cheers.
G'day Danny , mainly floating sulfide minerals ,Pyrites etc , what came out of these experiments was ten different samples which i had for over a year , and i threw them in with a roast i did , and that was later smelted with other sulfides i'.d crushed and roasted , the Chemical combinations are very involved and complicated to explain , but the collecting re agent was sodium ethyl xanthate , and there is dozens of different re agents you can use , but the sodium ethyl xanthate is supposed to be best on floating pyrite ore . That is the collector , then i add a frother ,which is pine oil , but i use PineTarsol , acquired from any chemist shop , hope that answers a few questions for you , cheers ,and thanks for watching .
I am glad you show this but you leave out so many aspects, how to collect minerals out of foam. What experience at this do you have? So many make videos of their first time doing something which is pretty awful we want to learn from an old timer who has been doing it for years, which are you?
What state are you in? Im in vic and have been struggling to find out if my sluice con sulphides have gold in them. Would love to come visit or could send you a sample
formerlyuser123, Gday , i live in NSW right near the Qld border , and believe it or not i haven't found the time to leach out any of the samples i floated yet , i have done over 10 sample bags , i have other crushed and roasted ore still sitting in buckets , lol , just don't get the time with work commitments , but i have viewed the samples i have under microscope and they appear to have gold in them ,but until i leach and test still can't be certain if the values are worth pursuing or not , it's just a hobby i undertook when i can't get out in the creeks for some shiny, i have a trip planned for tomorrow actually , yeah i was gonna say send em off to be assayed ,but here in OZ I don't think anyone in this country even does it ,unlike in the USA , maybe look into smelting some then tip in a conical graphite crucible to see if you get a button , i hope to do some in future ,still putting together a mini furnace , but i have a MI Micro 60X Magnification battery operated jewelers loop with inbuilt light ,they are awesome for magnifying ,makes grains of sand as big as boulders ,check em out ,might help identifying something in your ore ,sorry i couldn't be of more help , cheers mate.
@@GrooberNedJardine thanks for the follow up. I work creeks out in gippsland and ghe gold is reasonable but the sulphides are thick so im keen to see if they can add to the take. Ive tried hunting for someone to assay but no luck yet. Ive got a conical mould so might give what you suggested a try, will let you know how I go!
@@formerlyuser123 Yeah good luck , and just by the way , what i do with my cons from panning , i bring it all home ,i don't process anything out in the field , because i know there's a lot of micro fine gold in the cons , so when i get home i just throw about a handful or so of Borax in the bucket with a bit of water, and leave it about a week,i shake it up everyday before i finally pan it out , it seems to expose the more micro gold in the black sand , but that's just my preference ,it seems to work .cheers.
@@formerlyuser123 Try checking your local coin shops, the only 2 assay offices I currently know of are both in large coin dealers. Hallenbeck Coin Gallery in Colorado Springs may(?) work with you through the mail, But they are not doing rock assay until after the covid-19 closings are over.
hey mate im also based in VIC, playing around with milling down. roasting, centrifuge and shaker tables for some rich ore atm... how did you go with this process ? any joy ?
@@alibalkc9245 Pine tar , it is used for itchy skin ailments , and people that have chicken pox blisters bath in it to ease their pain . your pharmacy should sell Pine tar . cheers .
Yeah Crouch , I float the minerals out of the crushed ore , then I put it in solution , leach it with poormans Aqua Regia , then check with Stannous Chloride to see if solution holds Gold ,if so ,then precipitate out with sodium metabisulfite , then the brown powder that drops out ,you smelt back to gold , I've done computer components before to recover gold ,it's just something I do in the down times when I can't get out to the creeks , cheers mate.
GrooberNedJardine holy techno bat man lol I am thinking of going back to D this weekend if your around I know a spot bit of a bash as it has overgrown now But could be worth it You were very close to it or u may have been up to it also ?? My number is 0412960092 if you ever go It’s better than the city ay lol The Crouch yew
Unfortunately can't go this weekend ,missus is flying to Sydney , and that means I gotta hold the fort , but i'll be trying for the following week , i'll have to give you a ring and tell you about a little book I got from the local store out there ,you might even have it , I won't mention the name here ,but it tells all the history of the mining and the creeks , a terrific read ,if you got it you'll know what I mean , ok, catch you.
GrooberNedJardine no I haven’t mate I ran into a bloke in Tenterfield And we were chatting and he said I could stay on his property in D township How nice of him his girl runs the little brick a brack store in D See how I go might stay out there for two weeks I have new solar and new fridge freezer so can camp for a month lol lol Cheers Crouch
Alright , just go to the little shop across the road from the pub and ask them for the Forgotten Country ,about 25.00 bucks , I hope they still have them ,worth every penny , cheers .
I just roasted some of mine, ground to dust and found colorado micro gold. Have been looking at ways to float.. will be using pine sol as float agent, diesel fuel to control excess bubbles
well i hadnt thought of using my drill press but now that i saw your video...i might give it a go. I wanted to use 35% hydrogen peroxide, salt, and vinegar or acetic acid to oxidize and break the sulfides down (rust). And use a bubbler like you did to keep a constant supply of oxygen on the ore. thanks for the ideas!
The french press, you agitate it till its super frothy and then you press down and it squeezes it out. French press is for making fancy coffee. Nice video my friend
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That was just great,, you may need to fix a metallic plate around the shaft of agitator, when foam goes up to the surface, the plate will push it outwards
Liked, shared and commenting. That kitchen reminds me of mine. If mine was cleaner lol. Lost my wife a couple years ago n the kitchen evolved into a shop. I have a wood splitter, a tabletop grinder (to send Sparks into the dog hair along the walls), and a table saw. Lol.
🤣Well mine would probably be the same , but my Missus would kill me if i did that , luckily she doesn't mind so long as i put it back the way it was when i'm finished , cheers mate , Ned .
Thanks for putting this on youtube 🙏
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Hi Groober Ned, Nice simple and controllable set up. I might steal the set up for testing when I get something I might want to float. Thank you.
Amazing stuff, thanks for sharing. I could never remember all those formulas 😅
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If fine gold particles are freed after roasting, and can be seen easily,, do we need a collector to float them or just oil and oxygen while agitating??
Years ago I ran about 70 industrial floats but never thought about doing it at home.
What do you use as a frother
What was the Chemistry?
Hello. Great video. It would be interesting to hear you expand on the theory of leaching, the reasons to use it, etc.
I ran a leach pond sure use a lot of zinc and sodium cyanide
whats the rate of recovery for this process you are using mate? i know someone who does this commercially for a mine in south Australia but they are reluctant to share the entire process with me. I have some rich ore that im trying to process and trying to avoid the likes of cyanide or mercurcy. After this process did you simply do a melt with borax ?
Flexicone Know-How leaching technology. For the processing of refractory gold-bearing , sulphide and tellurides ores. Flexicone has developed a unique enrichment technology.
The technology includes the processes by centrifugal gravity separation, oxidation of sulphides , extraction of gold and platinum group metals by leaching leaching of gold, silver and palladium.
I processed telluride ores at Telluride, Colorado
--- so u floated some minerals .. do u then scrape the froth container for removal and furtherpan down ?
I've heard of using motor oil as a collector and pine sol cleaner as a frothing agent.
A couple drops of pine sol. Works wonderful
So the gold will remain in the top pan B-cuz it's heavier, or are you agitating the water with the surfactant so have the recoverable's rise to be skim it off? One of those nets used for collecting fish from aquariums might work sufficiently for you.
There is a mine with a capacity of 15ton per hour crushing and grinding, there is a froth floatation machine, about the collector and frother how much have to be added per hour to float the sulphades
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Smart...👍
Do you use a defoamer afterwards??
what is the "collector" liquid and foaming agent you used here?
The collector or reagent is Sodium Ethyle Xanthate ,preferred for pyrite ores , if you live in Australia you can't buy it unless your a mining corporation , it's highly volatile , I make my own , also the frother is pine oil ,but rather expensive ,and not so easy to find in large quantities ,so I use Pine Tarsol readily available from a chemist , I hope that helps you out ,
how to make Sodium Ethyle Xanthate in home
Thanks for sharing what is the name of the colter
Well am on way to Mr D mate but going for a look at Glen Elgin area
Cruise around the area see if I stay till following weekend to catch u up
Cheers the Crouch
Try to grab that book I told you about at the little shop opposite the pub ,if you can still get it , it's a good read , with a lot of historical mining information and location ,cheers.
thank you==is the gold now in the foam=? is this what you fire in kiln=?what about roasting=old man thanks you==what chemicals did you use==
G'day Danny , mainly floating sulfide minerals ,Pyrites etc , what came out of these experiments was ten different samples which i had for over a year , and i threw them in with a roast i did , and that was later smelted with other sulfides i'.d crushed and roasted , the Chemical combinations are very involved and complicated to explain , but the collecting re agent was sodium ethyl xanthate , and there is dozens of different re agents you can use , but the sodium ethyl xanthate is supposed to be best on floating pyrite ore . That is the collector , then i add a frother ,which is pine oil , but i use PineTarsol , acquired from any chemist shop , hope that answers a few questions for you , cheers ,and thanks for watching .
I am glad you show this but you leave out so many aspects, how to collect minerals out of foam. What experience at this do you have? So many make videos of their first time doing something which is pretty awful we want to learn from an old timer who has been doing it for years, which are you?
The foam bubbles will pop and eventually dry out
What was the orange liquid you added?
Sodium ethyl xanthate
You can't teach my,iam want no for chemicals name for flotation please tell
What state are you in? Im in vic and have been struggling to find out if my sluice con sulphides have gold in them. Would love to come visit or could send you a sample
formerlyuser123, Gday , i live in NSW right near the Qld border , and believe it or not i haven't found the time to leach out any of the samples i floated yet , i have done over 10 sample bags , i have other crushed and roasted ore still sitting in buckets , lol , just don't get the time with work commitments , but i have viewed the samples i have under microscope and they appear to have gold in them ,but until i leach and test still can't be certain if the values are worth pursuing or not , it's just a hobby i undertook when i can't get out in the creeks for some shiny, i have a trip planned for tomorrow actually , yeah i was gonna say send em off to be assayed ,but here in OZ I don't think anyone in this country even does it ,unlike in the USA , maybe look into smelting some then tip in a conical graphite crucible to see if you get a button , i hope to do some in future ,still putting together a mini furnace , but i have a MI Micro 60X Magnification battery operated jewelers loop with inbuilt light ,they are awesome for magnifying ,makes grains of sand as big as boulders ,check em out ,might help identifying something in your ore ,sorry i couldn't be of more help , cheers mate.
@@GrooberNedJardine thanks for the follow up. I work creeks out in gippsland and ghe gold is reasonable but the sulphides are thick so im keen to see if they can add to the take.
Ive tried hunting for someone to assay but no luck yet. Ive got a conical mould so might give what you suggested a try, will let you know how I go!
@@formerlyuser123 Yeah good luck , and just by the way , what i do with my cons from panning , i bring it all home ,i don't process anything out in the field , because i know there's a lot of micro fine gold in the cons , so when i get home i just throw about a handful or so of Borax in the bucket with a bit of water, and leave it about a week,i shake it up everyday before i finally pan it out , it seems to expose the more micro gold in the black sand , but that's just my preference ,it seems to work .cheers.
@@formerlyuser123 Try checking your local coin shops, the only 2 assay offices I currently know of are both in large coin dealers. Hallenbeck Coin Gallery in Colorado Springs may(?) work with you through the mail, But they are not doing rock assay until after the covid-19 closings are over.
hey mate im also based in VIC, playing around with milling down. roasting, centrifuge and shaker tables for some rich ore atm... how did you go with this process ? any joy ?
What chemical do you use for foaming and removing the foam after flotation, thanks
Pine oil is the frother , usually , but i found it expensive , but i switched to Pinetarsol which you can buy in any pharmacy , cheers .
I live in Turkey, how is the pintersol? It is not referred to as pintersol here, can you tell me in more detail, thank you.
@@alibalkc9245 Pine tar , it is used for itchy skin ailments , and people that have chicken pox blisters bath in it to ease their pain . your pharmacy should sell Pine tar . cheers .
@@GrooberNedJardine dishwasher get surfactant.
Cascade. Jet Dry , ECT,
anti water spot additive
sem legenda não dá pra inscrever no seu canal.
Holy smokes lol
What do u get from doing all of that PROFESSOR
The Crouch
Yeah Crouch , I float the minerals out of the crushed ore , then I put it in solution , leach it with poormans Aqua Regia , then check with Stannous Chloride to see if solution holds Gold ,if so ,then precipitate out with sodium metabisulfite , then the brown powder that drops out ,you smelt back to gold , I've done computer components before to recover gold ,it's just something I do in the down times when I can't get out to the creeks , cheers mate.
GrooberNedJardine holy techno bat man lol
I am thinking of going back to D this weekend if your around
I know a spot bit of a bash as it has overgrown now
But could be worth it
You were very close to it or u may have been up to it also ??
My number is 0412960092 if you ever go
It’s better than the city ay lol
The Crouch yew
Unfortunately can't go this weekend ,missus is flying to Sydney , and that means I gotta hold the fort , but i'll be trying for the following week , i'll have to give you a ring and tell you about a little book I got from the local store out there ,you might even have it , I won't mention the name here ,but it tells all the history of the mining and the creeks , a terrific read ,if you got it you'll know what I mean , ok, catch you.
GrooberNedJardine no I haven’t mate
I ran into a bloke in Tenterfield
And we were chatting and he said I could stay on his property in D township
How nice of him his girl runs the little brick a brack store in D
See how I go might stay out there for two weeks
I have new solar and new fridge freezer so can camp for a month lol lol
Cheers
Crouch
Alright , just go to the little shop across the road from the pub and ask them for the Forgotten Country ,about 25.00 bucks , I hope they still have them ,worth every penny , cheers .
smletingsolfide
did you have to roast the ore ?
I just roasted some of mine, ground to dust and found colorado micro gold. Have been looking at ways to float.. will be using pine sol as float agent, diesel fuel to control excess bubbles
That collector chemical is very expensive!! How much is used??!!
Pine sol in something like this is a few drops at a time
@@jamiefowler6524 so just enough to get the result…?
@@jamiefowler6524what other items would be needed for this type of process?
well i hadnt thought of using my drill press but now that i saw your video...i might give it a go. I wanted to use 35% hydrogen peroxide, salt, and vinegar or acetic acid to oxidize and break the sulfides down (rust). And use a bubbler like you did to keep a constant supply of oxygen on the ore. thanks for the ideas!
Hello
I'm wondering if a French coffee press would do the same effect?
shermdeazy ,i'm not sure how a french coffee press works , as long as the ore is agitated , and then aerated to make bubbles it should work ,cheers .
The french press, you agitate it till its super frothy and then you press down and it squeezes it out. French press is for making fancy coffee. Nice video my friend
Wish you were my neighbor
Flexicone new leaching technology. For the processing of refractory gold-bearing refractory and sulfide ores, Flexicone has developed a unique enrichment technology.
The technology includes the processes of ultrafine grinding and oxidation of sulphides, extraction of released gold and platinum group metals by centrifugal concentrators and leaching of gold, silver and palladium.
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