Opel Astra H Recirculation in/out air valve/flap, permanent fix + simple scheme

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  • Opel Astra H Recirculation in/out air valve/flap, permanent fix + simple scheme
    This is a factory problem for all Astra H and Zafira B.
    I made this modification for the first time more than 5 years ago. Works smoothly.
    One of the cables to the motor is cut and the circuit is connected there.
    Това е проста схемичка за крайни изключватели за клапата за рециркулация на въздуха. Може да се използва и при други коли с такъв проблем.
    Обикновенно моторчето е направено да изключва при по голям товар, в случея когато достигне крайна позиция и клапата опре в някоя от двете страни (отворено/затворено за външния въздух). Но мисля че няма Astra G, Astra H, Zafira B и т.н., в които да не е превъртяла оста поради прекалено голямата сила на моторчето.
    Моторчето прави около два пълни оборота преди да спре. Поради тази причина най-лесно и сигурно е да се сложат крайни изключватели за двете крайни позиции. Трябва добре и възможно най-точно да се фиксират ключетата, за да няма излишен натиск/напън в/у тях. Моторчето има известна инерция и не спира веднада при изключване на приложеното напрежение.
    Схемичката се свързва към един от двете кабелчета, които влизат в моторчето. Кабелчето се прекъсва. Тестово трябва да се установи към кой точно. Защото ако се свърже към грешния просто няма да излючи и ще продължи да върти. Може безопасно да се тества без да е сложен лоста, който ще опира и изключва/включва ключетата. При този метод ръчно трябва да се натисне ключето за съответната посока на въртене.
    След като всичко е наместено и свързано правилно, ако е нужно се дозалепят и фиксират ключетата, и лостчето.

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  • @dsadas2607
    @dsadas2607 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    HELP ME
    it Doesnt blow air to FRONT UPPER TO THE FRONT SCREEN on Astra H. What is the problem

  • @zdrz7727
    @zdrz7727 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, that's some elaborate solution. Good engineering I must say, should've come like this from the factory.
    Do you maybe know, was it really meant to be powered all the time?
    Like, motor moves the flap, stalls and stays under power indefinitely? I am perplexed by this system, I figured that the electric motor itself somehow disconnects power when stalled, but I couldn't find out how, dismantled it and it seems there's nothing in there. Or maybe logic control senses higher current in stall condition and cuts off power. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are on the right track. The module that controls the motor monitors the current, and when a certain limit is reached, it stops the motor. But this limit is too high and the axle always rolls over and breaks. The idea of ​​the scheme used is to turn off the motor's power when reaching the end position. The supplied voltage from the module is switched off after about 8-10 seconds. The scheme still works flawlessly to this day on two of my personal cars.

    • @zdrz7727
      @zdrz7727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@agentarz thank you very much for the clarification, will try to make it work! Enjoy

    • @kothecompetitor
      @kothecompetitor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@agentarz; Basically, you made that high current occurs once it is in the proper position by completing a short circuit with the switches when they are on, right?

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kothecompetitor No! With the switches and diodes, the circuit is interrupted for the corresponding direction of rotation of the motor. The impulse from the module continues, but is interrupted by the switch and does not reach the motor.

    • @kothecompetitor
      @kothecompetitor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@agentarz Yes after I take a close look I saw that there is a diodes I understand now.
      .
      do you think that my solution works though?
      my solution is making ( switch 1 || switch 2 || motor ) and when one of them is clicked the circuit will be shorted and the current limit will be exceeded and the motor will stop; am I right?
      .
      but to be honest your solution is more practical😅
      .
      thanks for your response

  • @selinkiper
    @selinkiper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was broken in my car too, it should have been exactly the same as you did. I pasted it and left it passive so that the fan wouldn't fall into it.

  • @andrii-u1i
    @andrii-u1i 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    какой молодец

  • @noureddineallani1496
    @noureddineallani1496 ปีที่แล้ว

    trés bien filmé merci

  • @ИгорьКорниенко-и5й
    @ИгорьКорниенко-и5й 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Идея отличная,но где в этой схеме (нарисованной) питание,а где выходы к моторчику? Мне не понятно каким образом подключен сам моторчик. Сделал у себя немного по другому: но после нескольких закрытий и открытий, заслонка остаётся в положении "закрыто" и в обратную сторону уже не работает

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Мотора си е свързан както си е бил и преди. Прекъсва се единия кабел който се свързва в модула с мотора и схемата се свързва там. Обяснил съм в описанието.

  • @volen123
    @volen123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    А бихте ли казали какъв тип са диодите, на какъв ток трябва да издържат. благодаря!

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  ปีที่แล้ว

      В случея са използвани M7, SMD вариант диоди, бо могат да се използват всякакви стига да са поне 1А.

  • @volen123
    @volen123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Здравейте, от кой град сте. Имам същият проблем . Непрестанно въртене на мотора, спира едва след 3-4 пълни оборота. Вече е успял палеца на машинката да счупи чоповете, които би трябвало да спрат мотора. Дано сте от Варна, за да ми помогнете с Астричката

  • @pandemis
    @pandemis ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried that one today. Motor just stopped and refused to work the other way. When I tried to circle it back, one of the microswitches died. But I think that now I spot a difference. 3:17 The top microswitch seems to have 3 connections. Did you bridge the NC and NO poles on the top one with some diode or resistor? I try to figure out why it does not work for me.

    • @pandemis
      @pandemis ปีที่แล้ว

      Ohhh Now I understand. You also included a drawing in the video that I missed first time. So you put a diode on each switch. Nice. I will try this also!

  • @markonovovic
    @markonovovic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did you remove the fan?

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The first time, very difficult. I don't remember the details anymore, it was a long time ago. The glove box comes off. A 5.5 spanner is needed, it is used to disassemble the lower part of the fan from the upper part with the flap. I couldn't get them out together, unassembled. At the front, from the engine compartment, remove the wipers and the plastics below them. There is a bolt that is inside the air duct that is harder to see. That's basically it in a nutshell. Be patient and take your time during disassembly. There should be other clips on youtube.

    • @Dragonbahn
      @Dragonbahn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First remove the glovebox, four torx screws and a yank (be careful with the glovebox light wires). Remove the plastic panel under the motor, two plastic retaining screws on the underside. Remove the plastic vent pipe, a plastic screw and a good yank. There are five small screws on the underside of the motor along with a clip on the edge between the housing and fan. Wiggle it a bit and it'll come loose. This information is also avaliable in the Haynes manual chapter 3:9 if you happen to have that.
      The really finnicky bit is refitting the fan. I've had some luck with half fastening one screw and then wiggling and smacking the fan to get the others lined up.
      Hope this helps.

  • @ИванИванов-л3ы7в
    @ИванИванов-л3ы7в ปีที่แล้ว

    Здрасти , какви ключета са използвани за схемата ?

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  ปีที่แล้ว

      Здрасти, ключетата се виждат на снимките след схемата. Могат да се използват всякакви, които Ви е удобно да монтирате.В случея са микропревключватели, тип SNAP ACTION, с лост, 3А/125V, ON-(ON), като могат да се използват и за много по малък ток. Диодите в схемата са M7, SMD вариант, но отново могат да се използват всякакви поне 1А.

    • @ИванИванов-л3ы7в
      @ИванИванов-л3ы7в ปีที่แล้ว

      Много благодаря за отговора !

  • @DenisSavcenkov
    @DenisSavcenkov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Как называется этот блок

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DenisSavcenkov Кой блок?
      Това е клапата и моторчето за рециркулация на въздуха в купето и отвън.

    • @DenisSavcenkov
      @DenisSavcenkov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@agentarz блок с заслонками?

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DenisSavcenkov Моторчето и клапата са зад жабката, а управлението на моторчето е на централната конзола, копчето със стрелка, за промяна на въздушния поток.

  • @garyeggleton8669
    @garyeggleton8669 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What button makes that motor work on dash thanks

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The button for recirculation valve air in middle dash.
      search.app.goo.gl/g1mSSj4

    • @garyeggleton8669
      @garyeggleton8669 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@agentarz mine doesn’t light up when pressed and that flap does not work it’s stays shut blowers work but only blow hot and direction of air doesn’t work any ideas thank you

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@garyeggleton8669 How do you know it's closed? Usually, when the indicator is off, the valve is open. The reasons for you may be many, the LED is burnt out, the button does not work, the motor is burnt out, one of the sockets does not make a good connection, one of the cables is broken...

  • @asdip
    @asdip 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Закрыл заслонку и отключил привод,вот и все проблема решена

    • @agentarz
      @agentarz  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      По скоро така проблема е заобиколен и вече нямате проветрение на купето, но всеки сам си преценя.