Second portion will be out tomorrow and infinity tisms part 5 shall be on the weekend, probably premiere it on Saturday at 4pm GMT ish (subject to change) see you there folks 🥰👍
Come to think of it after they mentioned psionics is that why Neil Patrick Harris put his hand on the bug? To do mind magic on it instead of just grope it for a reaction?
The brain bug only sucks out brains because it stopped taking its 7 different medications. It watched a movie that suggested it would be a good idea l.
Military tradition tends to be fucking stupid. But yeah, lets have a book that advocates a militarist society and starts with dropping nuclear grenades on cities be recommended reading in a military. Military being a political force has never gone wrong :^)
Was "Ender's Game" not on that list? I might only remember it because one of our tops decided to make us do some reading, which might have been a list she put together herself.
I'm pretty sure an example of an intensely weak minded person would be someone like Kate Kane, you know someone that continuously lets killers go, blames her Dad for not looking for Beth after believing evidence from professionals saying Beth is dead, and quitting the military because she couldn't swallow her pride for a week. Not Rico who rose from his lowest point to work back through ranks and be a leader. Idk maybe I'm wrong.
To be honest, we never really get to know enough about the characters in starship troopers to say how they are as people, the movie isn't really about the characters as much as the conflict in itself :)
The funniest part of Kate is she blames her dad for her sister after haven't an insane amount of time looking for her, instead of her step mum who literally paid someone to forge evidence of her death.
37:38 Mauler "We can make an amicable compromise where they get to kill all of our criminals." That is a Stargate Atlantis Episode. A faction of humans sacrifice their violent criminals to the Wraith and violent crime becomes near nonexistent and so they start making less severe crime punishable to this sacrifice, then those become nearly nonexistent, then they started making shit up.
@@TheFatalcrest Pretty much. "The Wraith", the aliens in this case, suck the life out of humans to not just survive but also to damn near live forever.
That is also somewhat what happens in Death Note, and it gets noted and remarked on by characters and the world what Kira considers punishable by death. A fascinating discussion, really.
Kept scrolling down to find this, worried it wasn't here. You really should get in contact with Mauler or something so he can consistently pin these. They're too useful not to be.
Yellowstone is actually not dangerous. If it's going to blow we will know _decades_ maybe even more in advance. To sargon's "why don't they just ease the pressure?" question, that is actually what the geysers are. The reason it isn't a concern is that it already has several different types of natural safety valves,[oops, that's outdated. Further Investigation concluded that the geysers had minimal effect on the pressure in the lava chamber. Rip.] plus is more likely to expand by melting more stone than to burst. The earth is actually really well off considering. Most of the "x old destroyer the world!" articles are 99.999999% bullshit.
@@Fuk99999 no it isn't. It _cannot_ be "overdue" because it has no schedule. Saying it's "overdue" is like saying the dinosaurs are overdue to take over the world again. It just doesn't work that way
This guy contradicts himself a lot. I mean, he uses spartan training as an example, which involves intense deadly training. Where Weak kids are weeded out or, at best for the weak ones, crippled for the rest of their short lives. Yet he talks about how this space marine training is TOO intense, while not enough because they don’t put them through at a young age. So he expects them to have special forces level training, while... not?
holly clown To be fair, je didn’t say all aspects of the spartan training were good, it’s coherent to praise the young age+compulsory recruitment, all the while criticizing the level of harshness of said training.
It's almost like that entire channel is made up of barely literate Neanderthals who lift fan theories from Reddit and cram wikia articles into the empty spaces to pad out their scripts in hopes that they may too one day aspire to be almost as high-quality as Watch Mojo.
@@yeetmeister8927 I'm pretty sure that was the joke. I have NEVER seen someone unironically imply WatchMojo is "high-quality." I think he's making a point as to HOW bad this other channel is.
Have none of you considered that Star Destroyers are just root vegetables? Totally makes sense that they're underground. And how many potatoes know which way is up? Get rekt, objectivity
Ryan J. Smith 100% of potatoes, plants have a bunch of mechanisms to grow toward or away from the sun, amongst which mechanisms to detect gravity (the only determinant of up and down in a gravity well). Which technically means imperial officers are less intelligent than vegetables. You’re welcome.
Hello fellow Humans. I too have many of the Human Intercourse. But I must point out that the actions of the Human Sargent of the Mobile infantry demonstrate that the Mobile Infantry is an extremely disorganized force lacking in the tactics and in no way did they win any major operations against the bugs. The bugs are awesomer than the Humans in every way and the Humans did not do any human adapations to their metal boxes to defeat the bugs because they have weak singular brains.
@@hellishhybrid1839 but we are merely engaging in human intercourse, my fellow human. Perhaps we should put down our rifle and have a friendly submission to the obvious and vast superiority of a foe with organisational skills and a caste system that far outstrips our own.
I didn't read the books but judging by the 1st movie alone the government wasn't just military. The ads say "Service 'guarantees' citizenship" but doesn't discount other "less guaranteed" ways of becoming a citizen. I love this movie. I think, humorous hyper-analysis aside, it's proof that some crazy complex plot isn't required to make a solid flick that withstands the test of time.
i've read the book years ago and i have to say that it was the only book that is worse than the movie adaptation, it was bad. Now, Armor from John Steakeley is great, one of my favorite books.
Disney has the perfect ending for their Star Wars. Skywalker? All dead and forgotten. Solos, all dead. Galactic society? In ruins. Last and most powerful force user? A Palpatine. Game over man, just game over. Edit: Generation Film is a great channel but you have to understand their lore or get their framing. They refer to themselves as “Human Supremacists”, so all their videos are framed to make humans the goods guys, no mater what. Like one of their presenters, the asian one with the weird mustache has an anti-dolphin t-shirt and it’s a lore thing for them. It’s a weird framing device, but it’s how they roll.
x "to truly kill a monster, you must rip out its heart" y "okay, lets do that" x "this monster... does not have a heart..... buuut, they do have billions of dollary doos... and a lot, of ambition" y (expression of horror and realization spreads like a stain over their face) "dear..... GOD no!"
2:44:00 You know.. That veteran is there for a reason, according to the society that Sargon set up.. He's there to prevent weak minded people, who aren't willing to sacrifice their well being for the good of society, from signing up.
In the book, Rico meets the recruitment sergeant (who doesn't wear his prosthetic hand or legs at the desk, btw) again after several hours of aptitude tests and psych evals, and the sergeant actually tells him that part of his job is to scare the less determined away from enlisting. IIRC, he implied he lost the three missing limbs in an accident of some sort at a research base on Pluto.
So I looked it up. Good thing I don't trust my memory... Fleet Sergeant Ho to Juan and Carl: "Look, boys, have you any idea why they have me out here in front?" [...] "So they put me out here to discourage you boys. Look at this.” He shoved his chair around to make sure that we could see that he was legless. “Let’s assume that you don’t wind up digging tunnels on Luna or playing human guinea pig for new diseases through sheer lack of talent; suppose we do make a fighting man out of you. Take a look at me-this is what you may buy . . . if you don’t buy the whole farm and cause your folks to receive a ‘deeply regret’ telegram." [...] He paused, then added, “So why don’t you boys go home, go to college, and then go be chemists or insurance brokers or whatever? A term of service isn’t a kiddie camp; it’s either real military service, rough and dangerous even in peacetime . . . or a most unreasonable facsimile thereof. Not a vacation. Not a romantic adventure. Well?” [...] [On personal preference] "About once in twenty times he is forced to admit that everything matches and you get the job . . . until some practical joker gives you dispatch orders to do something very different. But the other nineteen times he turns you down and decides that you are just what they have been needing to field-test survival equipment on Titan.” He added meditatively, “It’s chilly on Titan. And it’s amazing how often experimental equipment fails to work. Have to have real field tests, though -- laboratories just never get all the answers.” Afterwards: And then I recognized him-the Fleet Sergeant who had sworn us in. I guess my chin dropped; this man was in civilian clothes, was walking around on two legs and had two arms. “Uh, good evening, Sergeant,” I mumbled. He understood my expression perfectly, glanced down at himself and smiled easily. “Relax, lad. I don’t have to put on my horror show after working hours-and I don’t." [...] I looked at my hand. The hand he had offered me was the one that wasn’t there -- his right hand. Yet it had felt like flesh and had shaken mine firmly. I had read about these powered prosthetics, but it is startling when you first run across them.
The author's intent for their work doesn't take precedent over the qualities of the work itself. If a chef makes a pie but later states that he actually made a cake, the pie is still a pie. It doesn't become a cake just because that's what the chef intended to make.
It's weird how he thought that soldiers are supposed to be sociopathic killing machines. That's not even true in the wh40k universe when it comes to marines and guardsmen, and that universe is probably the only one where'd actually be justified, right? Wait, if he's comparing it to spartans from Halo, then did mistakenly think that that's what spartans are?
I get this feeling that he knows very little about fighting in general, let alone war, because that's a shockingly naive take. Like he himself is incredibly sheltered and has a very, *very* distant understanding of anything relating to physical violence.
@@TaoScribble yeah, it's ironic that he brings up the "urban bubble" when he clearly doesn't understand that people in the army are just normal people, even the special forces. If he served, he'd know this.
Crimson He doesn’t say that soldiers are supposed to be sociopathic killing machines, he is comparing a corps of soldiers to other corps of soldiers, many of which are colloquially sociopathic (devoid of empathy and emotions), which makes the latter superior soldiers when it comes to the ability to kill. And that is true in the Wh40k universe, lots of the best imperial armies/corps/units are described as devoid of empathy or respect for the value of human lives, or an ability to ignore the stress engendered by danger and the horrors of war, and it’s either true of the officers, or the soldiers, or both. And I’m talking about the guard here, it’s even truer for the space marines, the sororitas, etc. By the way, I talk about « the horror of wars » because when they show the context of the clip you hear that his point is about soldiers being most efficient when they aren’t sensitive, or overly sensitive, to violence.
Crimson He never said the contrary, he is comparing fictional soldiers coming from over the top universes where violence is extreme and the soldiers need to be fit to that. And he is rather obviously talking hyperbolically for humor purposes -_-
@Ellisar Atranimus It's integral to his point. He counts it as a flaw that they weren't recruited as children and experienced suburban life, so they can't be turned into sociopathic killing machines. Are you going to argue that his list is "9 flaws and 1 random joke eks dee". Just because you like his content, don't excuse bad arguments.
Finally, after being teased by the theatrical trailer known as EFAP 64, the final cut is out! Sargon and Arch on EFAP, 10 out of 10. This is objectively good.
Even in legends, 40k wins. However, Legends does destroy just about everything else, every si gleam Venator star destroyer has 8 dual-turbolasers that fire 300 megatons of force per shot. That is absurd.
Star Wars Community: Fighting over whether aliens are racist and how aliens or droids might be oppressed. Warhammer 40k community: Genocide is the best and only answer.
I think alot of the discussion forgets that they're fighting insects. Creatures that can lift several times their own weight, and still move around and attack (blindly of course) after being decapitated. Killing an insect of that size wouldn't be easy, let alone doing it quickly.
"their guns are bad for CQC." Well all combat against giant fucking insects is bad. Exactly, these things are evolved giant bugs. Stronger, tougher, faster, and far more numerous than humans by far...this guy seems to think swapping from an M-60 to an MP-5 would suddenly shift the tide...I'm so glad this efap just rips this idiot. His ideas are bad and he should feel bad!
When it comes to kevlar armor, if I wanted to stab you through it would actually be very easy to do so. With a bullet, all that potential energy is transferred very fast and it isnt sustained over a length of time. When stopping a bullet you only need the armor to hold up for that long. With a knife, its sustained pushing force in a very small space. Now scale that up fifty times and you have a significant problem arising from the fact that, probably, no armor we could ever make could stop that. In addition, even if the armor would be unbroken, the human within would still feel the force of the hit. Thats why mobility is your ONLY defense. Staying far away from the bugs and attacking from a distance with a wide area CBR attack is THE BEST tactic possible. Failing that, guns are all right, but if they start climbing over the walls youre screwed.
1:29:00 the discussion about armor cost was pretty reasonable but weight has been a HUGE factor regarding armoring soldiers historically, so I would expect weight to be a huge factor in the future. In the English civil war, musket proof armor was developed and sold to wealthy generals and lords but by the end the armor was ditched for something lighter. During the 18th century, no one wore armor, not only due to cost but also because armies had to carry most of their equipment on campaigns. There are stories of soldiers ditching equipment like cooking pots on the road because no one wanted to carry them. In more stagnate battlefields like WWI, the Entente and Central powers both created bullet resistant chest and helmet plates but most soldiers just threw them away because they would rather be agile. Of course in the future we may have power armor that elevates most of the weight with mechanical systems, in that case I would say that cost would play a larger factor than agility.
Schnick Cost and energy demands. If your armor can only operate for an hour, you may have an incentive to buy a hundred to make a small elite force, costly or not, if it can work a hundred hour in autonomy, you have an incentive to buy hundreds and make it the axis of your army.
"but also because armies had to carry most of their equipment on campaigns." Armies have done that since the Roman Republic if not earlier. The switch to less and less armour was mostly driven by the increasing destructiveness of artillery. It's why we went from partial plate like munition plate or the stereotypical Conquistador armour to allow musket protection to just cloth as a single cannonball could easily ruin a weeks work hammering out the plate for absurdly less work per ball used. With the only reason we ended up going back towards plate during WW1 before the invention and more successful using of the tank being a need to block machinegun fire but the sheer intensity and calibre was far too high for the armour to be beneficial. As such, the ideas for such plate was scrapped and instead, they began moving on to the concept of mobile cover which in turn gave birth to the British infantry support tank classification. Or Infantry Tank for short. But this was then phased out in favour of the Universal tank typing or its more known cousin; the Main Battle Tank.
Starship Troopers makes a point where they say that the anything given not earned is worthless. This extends to voting. In the US voting used to have responsibilities that came with it. Voting meant you had to join the militia, enlist the fire brigade, take part in night patrols and be eligible for the draft. Hell one of the reasons most women in the US were against voting was because of these responsibilities that came with it.
In many states, you didn't "join" the militia, you were militia by virtue of being an able bodied adult male. That is the point of the 2nd amendment. The militia isn't some organization over there, it's *you.*
+@@brofist1959 That's what I said "you had to join the militia". As in it was a requirement. As in it was your responsibility as a citizen of the US of A to defend your community from outside threats, when the need arises. Congratulations all you did was reword exactly what I said while making no other points that could be added to the conversation. Edit: One more thing are you daft? While the idea of "every american is the militia" exists, there are many documented militias that were formally organized during times of conflict. So I guess it was some organization "over there" that you would just "join".
Well, overlooking that it was originally land owners, and those additional duties as requirements to participate were not immediately mandatory, but implemented as more and more of the working class gained a desire to participate in voting.
people who did not vote i believe still had the right to free speech during that time. that was given freely, so i guess it had no value? saying something that sounds good A) doesnt mean it applies well to what youre talking about and B) doesnt mean it is even remotely relevant given how our society operates today.
@@duckheadbobCivilians under the Federation still have the right to free speech, you can see that very clearly by the conversation between Rico and his father in which his father is quite clearly using his right to dissent against the Federation. According to Heinlein even the Right to live isn't something we are given at birth, since nature quite clearly couldn't care less, instead we purchase it through the pain and effort of our first breath. As a second Point, i think "something given has no value" actually holds true, even for your example, think of all the "hate speech"-laws, people in the UK being jailed over tweets, Guest Speakers at Universities being deplatformed, that's the Right to free speech being treated as if it had no value because People don't actually think about what it means and what it's meant to be for.
Reposting my comment from the original stream: Rags, the move from 5.56 back to 7.62 and those in between (6.8 etc.) isn't because modern guns are somehow better at handling the energy. It's because armor has gotten better. Modern Russian infantry armor (the ceramic plate kind) is actually good enough to withstand the US M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round, a 5.56 NATO cartridge specification. They're starting to think to dial the caliber back up and keep up with these insane gas pressures, hoping to beat that curve again. The problem is that intermediate calibers and cartridges like 5.56 NATO and 7.62 AK (the x39mm, not the x51mm NATO) were very good for handling; the point of the assault rifle was that a second, or even third, follow-up shot could be made with little adjustment to aim, which was why going from .30-06/7.62 to 5.56 was important in the first place. The same way though that .30-06 was manageable in battle rifles at the time means that going back to 7.62 isn't too much of a deal nowadays, it's not really about "modern guns" as it'll likely be about better training standards and acceptable tradeoffs, because again, armor. It's actually a bad place to catch ourselves with, right now. If anything, I agree with Rags about "go see how long it takes to equip a modern military with a new gun and bullets" just because of the history of US Ordinance and all their crazy ideas, whether it was being stubborn about .30-06, or the rifle modernization projects that always just end with them picking an AR-15-based platform. So where US Ordinance will go, and how long it'll take for them to make up their minds, is certainly up to see in the future.
Really enjoyed and appreciated Blame's points and that he was willing to share his knowledge and experiences from the military! Hopeful to see him on EFAP again sometime. Wonderful guest!
Curious what this guy thinks of Ender’s Game, where they have 6-12 year olds being trained to kill bugs. Edit: Apparently he has a video on Ender’s Game. Will check out later
Fritz Philogene II I got three minutes in and the Asian guy named Alan that’s in it hadn’t even started talking about Enders Game. It’s a 10 minute video
These days, I treat Ender's Game as the sequel to Starship Troopers. The war has been going on for so long that it became necessary to recruit child geniuses to learn tactics.
I'd imagine that the armor the Marines use is more to prevent friendly fire than be effective against the bugs. The bugs are massive lads and that makes it difficult to always see what's on the other side of them when you go to fire. I'd imagine the armor is for that situation.
The movie always gave me feels of 'humanity just recently got over some internal conflict' cuz training targets are human, tactics are around being shot at in return by humanshaped targets. The training looks startlingly stupid when you think about it because humanity should be training for exo-planet warfare, spacebattle, EVA-suited fighting, as well as have some more 'oh soldiers we can recognize' in terms of peacekeeping mission or patrol-missions in friendly-territory assignments.
Lol Sargon always crashes the streams. But in all seriousness, it was great to see him finally on EFAP, even if i didn't know what he was talking about, most of the time.
Timestamps: 0:00 - Yellowstone of Damocles. SuperChats catchup. 11:40 - Star Wars & Raciest Asians: The Holdo Maneuver & Death Star Destroyers: ENERGY MATTERS!!! 28:20 - Jumping into the Video. Preliminary Disclaimers. Is it working now? 31:00 - Post-Tism restart. Visual Tisms: Chimpanzee Cavalry. The Hopeless Optimism of our future. Arch's Lore Tisms. Give Xenomorphs a chance!! Leave the Xenomorphs alone!!! The Maths of Utilitarian Xenomorph Ethics. Think of the Facehuggers!!! Is Starship Troopers good? Missed Opportunities: is it Alfred? The merits of the Mobile Infantry. _The Human Problem,_ a Xenomorph's Manifesto. Tehran =\= Terran. 49:15 - On War. Sociopathic Killing Machines //Lindybeige has a relevant video. Conditioning = Sociopathy. On Fortitude, Fear, and Courage. 1:03:45 - On the plus side … Bush did nine-eleven _in Spaaaaace._ _"You're embarrassing me in front of the buuugs!"_ Those who live in glass planets should not throw asteroids. Typical democratic fascists! Engaging in human intercourse: an exercise that's antithetical to the Humanity First Doctrine. 1:16:25 - Intentional Oversights. BTS Lore, and the ferocious threat of #MeToo. Comparing Gear. The Tisms of Sequels. R&D is bad moviemaking; Logistics is for Losers. Why didn't you prepare for the thing that you couldn't have possibly anticipated? Tradeoffs in Armor Distribution. 1:36:40 - GUNS!!!!! 1:48:50 - Tactics =\= Strategy. 2:02:45 - On Government. "Universal Suffrage is a mistake" - Sargon 2020. The merits of "fascism" and"oppression." Relaxing the rules for human intercourse: sex is how the bugs win [ MEME ]. "One of the nifty things about Democracy is that if you don't want it, you can vote out" - Waggg's'sss's'z 2020. 2:12:36 - Glib enters and converses. Sargon pwned with Facts and Logic. *_Rational Discourse Intensifies._* Are women the real problem? Arch defends Soviet tactics. Brexit Fallout: Escape From London. 2:38:10 - The future needs oversight from someone more politically-minded: like Sheev Palpatine. Volunteerism is bad: they should be using *_SLAVES_* (or conscripts)! Arch Warhammer agrees. 2:42:35 - It's all just up to your interpretation. 2:46:00 -> Memes. 2:47:07 - Extreme Population Control. We have to conscript the Warrior Bugs, or we'll have to settle for pieces of garbage like the hero who won the movie. Censorship Tisms. Triggering Arch with nerd Tisms. 3:04:45 - Why didn't you prepare for the thing that nobody anticipated? Chat has never heard of the A-10. 3:16:15 - End of video tisms. Sargon goes for smokes/tea - but will he ever return home? Questions for Arch. Can vampires sustain themselves on orphans? 3:22:33 - New guest (Blame the Controller) enters the stream. Arch's commentary on ancient/medieval war. Where can MovieBob fit in the VtM script? 3:37:30 - Sargon returns, answers a question. BtC finally overcomes his tech-tisms. 3:49:20 - //Note that in a conscription scenario, the smartest will figure out how to avoid the draft if so inclined. 3:54:50 - Arch leaves. Sargon leaves. 3:59:35 - "Medic!!!" and other training stories. 4:05:50 - Blame/BtC leaves. 4:08:30 - SuperChats. Incessant Cantina Music. Subtly Liberating Clams. Upcoming EFAP plans. Birds of Prey. Build a wall. Let's blow up Yellowstone. Disabling ewoks' hands. Interstellar was bad. TH-cam is worse than Communism. They already came up with Sargon's Theme. Pronouncing foreign welsh tisms. 4:24:15 - Sardonicast insists that reasonable discourse must end. Starship Troopers on fascism. Rags's new book. When GoT S8? EFAP episode 10 Billion. Seth Green ruined Buffy. Matthew Mitosis. Going to California. Favorite Mary Sue. 4:49:30 - Twitter explodes. Space Leia Chicken. Getting Objectivity Pilled. Suction Cups. Sonic the movie. TROS is more insane than 40K. Children could do better. Holdo's Holocaust. Deflecting Force Choke. Selfish guests. Clone birthdays, presents, and romance. Happy birthday Rags! E-thots mad. "… Oh, it's 6 hours later and they're gone." World of Darkness and Jenny Nicholson sponsor EFAP. Vampire Loli. 5:00:45 - _Nimitz-class_ carriers. Disney movie titles are banned. Kicking Jay. Monkey-tisms. Primaries suck. Terminators can't move their heads. "Hello all my X-words." Who thought more about their worldbuilding? Shaving Holdo's hair. Gas the bugs. Uruguay. Mt. Rainier. The Red Baron. Spartans & Byzantines. KMT's screen time. Fixing Rose Tico. 5:13:05 - Sociopath military divisions. Should have brought on Clausewitz or Sun-zu. Firefly. We only like the middle. Fear is a choice. Good rat. Bugs are sociopathic. Comparing space marines. That's how we're going to win. Would MI hold up vs 40K? Getting sucked by the brain-bug. Progression of technology in worldbuilding. Logistics of shipping tanks. 5:27:20 - Helmets are protective. Note for Anna TSWG. Marry, Kill, Human Intercourse. The Battle of Li'l Slugger. Vietnam. Pulse rifle. Bugs are dangerous because they don't do the human intercourse. Improving the ammo. Skipped SuperChat. Weather-tisms. The 3rd SuperChat. Happy birthday Rags! Settling into siege. Formation tisms. 5:36:45 - Happy Birthday Rags! Paid VO work? Can't say Vietnamese. Buffy Watch Order. Sargon's vid on Starship Troopers. The Knights of Jen. R A. Puberty blockers. The Mandalorian: video-making advice. Pros & Cons of other factions? Troops vs Tanks. Military experience. No oil + Socialism = loss. Plato's Republic. 5:48:28 - Yoshi & pronuncitisms. Sitcoms about Human Intercourse. You need a second lightsaber to defeat Sheev. Have you played Eternal Darkness?
Sargon typically destroys everything he touches, so let's be thankful he didnt cause EFAP to implode. The man single handedly drove an entire political party (UKIP) into the dirt.
33:00 The whole discussion about optimism due to the state of the world and economy is one of those "Hilarious in Retrospect" moment, as this EFAP was recorded just barely before the COVID lockdowns kicked in. Then we had a pandemic, two recessions, a major spike in inflation, a pointless war, and lots of political tensions all across the globe. However, the fact that even with all that, we're STILL better off than humanity as a whole ever was over its entire history tells volumes about how life sucked before modern infrastructure, medicine, and everything else associated with today's human civilization kicked in.
Also Rags is a bit mistaken on armor in the Great War, when he'd mentioned helmets. Their use of less armor was actually an *improvement* rather than some sort of downgrade. French cavalry rode to war in 1914 in shimmering armor straight out of the Napoleonic era that was made for sword combat and did nothing against machine gun fire, so it was ditched, at that point it was just dead weight. In fact, a bullet to metal armor often just curled the metal of the exit hole in the plate, causing graver wounds. Helmets were developed to deal with shrapnel and debris from the developing artillery war, never to stop bullets (it was a happy accident that they sometimes did).
Also when they had helmet the general though it made the soldier less careful and get themselves more injured because they had a explotion of head injured. In reality people who would have died before from debris and shrapnel instead just get head wound.
How did the German lobster armor rank? In They Shall Not Grow Old, there was an interview of a Tommy who shot a fellow in the chest, and it did fuck all.
@@mgeiger2341 Yeah, it wouldn't do a thing against a rifle round, might stop pistol rounds, would help with debris, but mostly did little to nothing. Was meant for sentries, like the Stirnpanzer, not wound up in use by the storm troopers, who put them to good use in melee combat.
The army was at its strongest when it was majority voulenteer. The higher the conscript and new soldier ratios got the worse its performance got. Waterloo was mainly lost because even the old guard was majority young conscripts.
I once had a roommate who was in a US artillery battalion. During a training exercise his unit dropped a 155mm shell through the roof of the ammo depot. They all got dishonorable discharges
I've always thought that if The Witcher had been made back during the time of Starship Troopers, that Dina Meyer would have made, physically speaking at least, a good Triss Merigold.
Absolutely this, and I think they said in on the stream, but it’s also because the books have them in crazy mech suits that make them mobile tanks with tac nukes. If you have crazy mobile tank suits you don’t really need dedicated artillery because it would ultimately slow you down
@@skirk248 The original meme had John Adams spider writing "You have the right to enjoy bad movies" into the Constitution, but said document was written by James Madison. Anyway, MauLer is Welsh, and all of us (non-canine) colonists look the same. ;)
EFAP, Sargon, and Arch Warhammer all together. This pleases me. :) As for Yellowstone, it's a concern, but geologists aren't sure how close it is. It could go in a few months, or a few thousand years.
@JoeRingo118 Had to google that because I never heard of them before and yeah, I'm not going to defend it. Stupid over-regulation. Nanny-state crap, protecting us from toys. What can I say? I hate big government for reasons like that.
@JoeRingo118 The difference I guess is all those other things you mentioned are for adults, while kinder eggs are for children. Adults are in theory able to make informed decisions. Now, granted, Kinder eggs are an ADULT decision because holy Fuck keep an eye on your kids you fucking morons, but that's the general idea behind it.
It's more likely that we all die from a random asteroid impact then Yellowstone ever actually 'going off'. Worst case for Yellowstone is that there's a minor eruption or 2 as a few specific areas blow off pressure, but the damage would be about equal to Mount Saint Helens' eruption, meaning a bunch of natural damage and airway reroutes but little else. Yellowstone already has a bunch of heatsinks that keeps it safe.
Ok, what do we have to do to get some mini reviews of the last 2 Batwoman episodes?! They were esp cringey &ridiculous, &I live for y'alls &JLongbones Batwoman -break- takedowns ;)
Based on the last EFAP, they seemed to have watched episodes 10 + 11. Waiting on Infinite Tisms first before they start working toward releasing both Batwhamen minis.
@@HalfBrainGamers ya, I fig that, too... Esp since it plays into the BW episodes. I don't dare watch any of the actual episodes, myself - the commentary is where it's at!
Weird thing about Space Marines is they shoot bullets basically the size of red bull cans. I wouldve assumed that the starship troopers wouldve had big bullets too because of the size and armor of their targets
Not a game I generally praise, but Halo 4 had a nice moment between Laskey and John, John expresses that it's a soldiers job to protect people and Laskey replies "soldiers are people too" John isn't normally socialised or even well adjusted, but he's still compassionate and motivated to help people. Sociopaths don't make good soldiers.
So I've been considering working on a theory that may or may not interest the people here. I've been watching channels like Sargon's, Tim Pools, and Jordan Petersons and I've noticed they have touched on an idea reflected in critics of Movies and Games. To be specific Mauler, Rags, and their Podcast EFAP are a favorite of mine and they seem to touch on the same philosophical problems in society that the more political and psychological channels are hitting as well. I'm under the impression that some level of postmodernism has taken over nearly every level of liberal arts in college. I realize this sounds obviously true but that is the framework I'm operating from for my theory. Essentially that critics and reviewers with college degrees were taught to only value subjectivity. That college as a whole may be in a Crisis of Objectivity. I was thinking of looking at esteemed game and movie critics' who pedal the bad takes that are running rampant right now. No one trusts the official game and movie reviewers. But I probably don't need to tell u that. Everyone goes to their favorite TH-camrs for their reviews be it games or movies. Maybe its a lack of credibility in the system that led to this rise in TH-camr critics or perhaps its just the old way lacked a personal connection. I believe it is a bit of both. But I'd like to gather info on these "bad critics" and see if there are any connections that can be made between their year of graduation, where they graduated, film books used in schools during their stay, and what there takes are on certain controversial movies. Now I just want to state that Birds of Prey is at a higher score on RT than the Oscar-winning Joker. And the internet has decided that game journalists need a mode easier than the easy mode. I'd like to see if I can find a reason for their blatant incompetence. Let me know if you can think of some factors to look into as well and if anyone gets here then thanks for reading. I might do some sort of video if anything of interest pops up and I'd like to hear what you guys think about this whole topic in general. From -Bigideas Baggins
I honestly don’t see any real issue with the crew numbers on Star Destroyers being upwards of 20,000-30,000. I know it seems like a lot, but it’s really not that unbelievable when you consider crew sizes that existed on real battleships and cruisers from WWII which were easily 1,500 to 2,700 crew members (Yamato). They do operate like a floating city but from a purely militaristic standpoint. With a Star Destroyer being as large as they are by comparison, with as many weapons, systems and fighters as they surely must contain, I think its totally believable
Instead of comparing the Starship Troopers mobile infantry (from the movie) to the Space Marines of 40k, they should be compared to the Astra Militarum (imperial gaurds) from 40k. Not the same backgrounds, but they have FAR more in common than Space marines.
Specifically the IG of Damocles, the 13th Black Crusade or M42 since they had a similar state of logistics merging with strategic demand in a way that forces stuff like Klendathu.
@@Lobsterwithinternet the question "who's the best Space Marine?" Is self-defeating to begin with as they don't fill in the same roles. The Movie's Mobile Infantry are closer to the Imperial Navy's infantry forces than they are to the Astartes which would fit the books' mobile infantry better. That's like asking who has the best recoilless rifle then comparing the panzerfaust to a fucking Davy Crockett. Or who has the best destroyer and comparing an ISSD to the Mutsuki or USS Fletcher.
wasn't the whole issue of the whole who started the war in starship troopers hinted at near the start of the film? that human settlers choose to settle in bug controlled space and were wiped out, afterwards the bugs send a meteor to earth to attack the humans? *edit i see this was brought up in the video*
If humans go on bugs territory then it's the humans who start the war... The meteor is just an excuse to be able to exterminate the bugs and at the same time do some population control (as it is hinted there's an overpopulation problem on Earth). Also, the humans having SS style uniforms and ridiculous pro-human propaganda doesn't help making them the good guys. And the meteor story is beyond absurd, first the propaganda tells you it came from the other side of the galaxy but also that the lunar defenses presented a bit later couldn't do anything for some reason. At some point, in a movie with such strong of an agenda, it would be nice to stop calling things illogical and badly written and realise it's supposed to indicate something... These past few months I feel like EFAP is really having a lot of bad takes on movies...
@@dearcastiel4667 Dear Castiel they didnt know for sure if the bugs were there. It was just a quarantined zone, as well the people settling were told not to. The bugs sent the meteor did come across and there are ways to do so, after all the humans came across in moments. The "SS Uniforms" was the directors idiocy. The moon defense came later, it wasnt present at the time of meteor. Again the movie does have some time frame jumping. Yes much of the movie is horribly written, made worse because the director had a vision ignoring the book but including bits in the book. It doesnt make it better when the "starship troopers is facism satire" have horrible takes.
@@dearcastiel4667 the settlers were warned by the federation not to settle Port Joe Smith as it was bug territory, the bugs sent the asteroid in retaliation and the defenses were established in the aftermath. The movie is told slightly out of order.
The armor was used in one of the Power Rangers series. Starship Troopers probably shares a multiverse with them. I’m sure that has some factor in protecting against space bugs.
In defense of the video, I think the point of this was to compare to other fictional space marines. And in terms of having the soldiers be killing machines made to eradicate all alien life. So, most of the points made, or at least the points I've seen so far, have made sense from that perspective.
Master Chief (and all SPARTAN II’s) receive multiple augmentations that boost them well beyond regular humans. They aren’t quite on the same level as 40k Space Marines (the marines have more advanced genetic engineering) but they are closer than most people realize.
In the novel it takes 4.5 million dollars (that's counting inflation) to train, armor up, and feed a single Mobile Infantryman. This android (I mean "guy") doesn't know how military funding works. Not everything can be galaxy expanding imperium with unlimited resources. I guess what I'm trying to say is, do your research, and compare and contrast my guy.
Just somthing I want to point out at 1:45:50 the reason we are starting to see a resurgence of 7.62 in military usage actually has nothing to do with weapons technology and everything to do with the environments our current military operations are fighting in specifically the point that we are doing a LOT of fighting in middle eastern mountains and deserts where the typical combat range exceeds the maximum effective range of 5.56 which was originally adopted since most warfare was being conducted in cities and forests where the typical combat range was 100m-300m and 7.62 was simply over powered for those ranges.
Unlikely in archs case considering he apparently has made some racial comments that infer something about his personal views. I'd hope the efap boys steer clear of that mess.
fun fact about the starship troopers movie MI armor; it was reused as the general troopers gear in power rangers lost galaxy (or alt least something extremely close to it)
I also come from a military stock (both parents soldiers, born in the base's hospital), and both my parents were SUPER into my education. Don't get me wrong, it was still public education, but anything below an +A was frowned upon. -A or B? "This can be higher. You need to do better." The first time I got a C? _ONE_ C? Oh lord, they acted like I was failing school entirely. D: Putting myself in others' shoes was also a perpetual mantra. They didn't always practice what they preached (my mother especially), but they'd be damned if I wasn't a goddamn Care Bear in terms of sympathy and empathy. I'm a cold and uncaring jerk _now,_ but back then I could expect a spanking and grounding from mom, and lecture from dad that was so stern I'd _wish_ he'd just given me a spanking, instead.
The alien artillery bug is show to be able to burrow. Last time when they bomb the area, it miss the Artillery bug because it was underground. That why the guy who superchat say Air support was useless against Artillery.
1:27:00 - Units showing up to Desert Storm in 1991 sometimes had to go in with woodland pattern camouflage covers for their vests, helmets, and even some vehicles, since there wasn't enough time to supply every unit with proper desert gear. This happened again in the 2000's during Afghanistan and Iraq. And the US is currently Earth's most capable military in terms of being able to support its forces logistically, with an enormous industrial complex behind them, fighting relatively small-scale wars. This is a huge military force, designed to fight other people that aren't as well equipped, being packed in and thrown at what was supposed to be a bunch of stupid bugs. The whole point of the first big battle was to show that the Mobile Infantry had the numbers and firepower, but had severely underestimated the enemy and got BODIED for their overconfidence. I get that Generation Tech is almost a comedy or parody and their pro-humanity stuff is over the top as part of their persona, but I feel like they forgot the film on this one.
All they ever do is face rape our women, kill our men, and they follow an outdated monarchic system where they worship their queen as god. As a progressive I think we need to let more into our country...
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Second portion will be out tomorrow and infinity tisms part 5 shall be on the weekend, probably premiere it on Saturday at 4pm GMT ish (subject to change) see you there folks 🥰👍
Roger, Sir. Long.
Question for Rags: does nonexistence exist? Ree: water wetness etc.
Yay
Don’t forget about the third portion
@Chase Moore I think he'll combine the 2nd and 3rd stream as 2nd portion
Mauler puts his hand on Patrick Willems head.
Mauler: It’s afraid.
Objectivity guarantees citizenship !!
IT'S AFRAID!
@@pvtspartan HURRRAAAHHHH!!!!
Come to think of it after they mentioned psionics is that why Neil Patrick Harris put his hand on the bug? To do mind magic on it instead of just grope it for a reaction?
Janine Cat Yeah, he's supposed to be reading it's mind since it's the intelligent bug.
The Star Destroyers were underground because palpatine just planted a new batch of Star Destroyer trees. That's how he got so many in the first place.
Do they come from crayt dragon teeth?
@@marvalice3455 from Jabba eggs
@Ellisar Atranimus I see what you did there!
Stardewstroyer Valley
@@spawnofyakub8390 I got that game and it's been so addictive the last two weeks lol
*puts hand on Brain bug*
“Is this suppose to be Alfred?”
more like "It's Alfred! it's Alfred!"
"Does it hurt?"
@aeneas237 he hasn't found Alfred, Alfred found him. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN.
The brain bug only sucks out brains because it stopped taking its 7 different medications. It watched a movie that suggested it would be a good idea l.
“The Xenomorph is female.”
Kathleen Kennedy’s T-shirt, 2022
I sure hope it is
I mean it is?????
@@ngmajora6986 Funnily enough, yes, the standard worker drone Xenomorph is a sterile female. Like worker ants.
maybe not - word is she is being moved out (rumor!)
Guciom
Sterile female drone worker? Isn’t that the feminists idea of a perfect woman?
H U M A N I N T E R C O U R S E
Inter Human Course
How dare you!
These are the voyages of the Starship Intercourse.
@@BDaltonYoung To boldly come where no man has come before
for some odd reason my brain process this as human centipedes cousin. I am very very sorry
Fun fact: the book is the *only* fiction book to be on the US military's recommened reading list for commanding officers
Based
I was surprised when the little library we had in the NG boot camp I trained at had a dozen copies.
Should be required reading in high school if you ask me
Military tradition tends to be fucking stupid. But yeah, lets have a book that advocates a militarist society and starts with dropping nuclear grenades on cities be recommended reading in a military. Military being a political force has never gone wrong :^)
Was "Ender's Game" not on that list? I might only remember it because one of our tops decided to make us do some reading, which might have been a list she put together herself.
Mauler- I only have one rule; everybody writes, no one quits. If you don’t write well, I’ll critique you myself.
Fred Jones Mauler : *shuts down Hbomberguy when he does a bad critique* I expect anyone here to do the same for me.
Fucking beautiful.
I'm pretty sure an example of an intensely weak minded person would be someone like Kate Kane, you know someone that continuously lets killers go, blames her Dad for not looking for Beth after believing evidence from professionals saying Beth is dead, and quitting the military because she couldn't swallow her pride for a week.
Not Rico who rose from his lowest point to work back through ranks and be a leader.
Idk maybe I'm wrong.
SHE'S YOUR DAUGHTER
To be honest, we never really get to know enough about the characters in starship troopers to say how they are as people, the movie isn't really about the characters as much as the conflict in itself :)
@@johankarlsson1776 The characters stay almost the same throughout the movie. I think Rico just finds more motivation.
The funniest part of Kate is she blames her dad for her sister after haven't an insane amount of time looking for her, instead of her step mum who literally paid someone to forge evidence of her death.
What you bring me!
37:38 Mauler "We can make an amicable compromise where they get to kill all of our criminals."
That is a Stargate Atlantis Episode. A faction of humans sacrifice their violent criminals to the Wraith and violent crime becomes near nonexistent and so they start making less severe crime punishable to this sacrifice, then those become nearly nonexistent, then they started making shit up.
😂 im assuming it's under the rule "I need to be fed or I will murder whomever I see until I'm full"
@@TheFatalcrest Pretty much. "The Wraith", the aliens in this case, suck the life out of humans to not just survive but also to damn near live forever.
That is also somewhat what happens in Death Note, and it gets noted and remarked on by characters and the world what Kira considers punishable by death. A fascinating discussion, really.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Extreme Weather & Super Volcano
3:12 - Streamlabs Chats:
- Monsterhunter Tenderize /Westworld /EFAP 200
- Jay to Ashes LoTR /IHE Conversation /Mundane Matt
9:37 - Moviebob: Visionary /Bigideas /Rags Headpats
- Clone poopin /Watchtogether /Boxoffice Joker TRoS
12:00 - Asians on Tico & SW Minicities
28:14 - Intro to video (Starship Troopers)
30:55 - Video Start/ Worst Time in History
35:53 - Giving the Aliens a Chance /Rating Infantry
44:53 - Specialized Training
51:43 - Weak-minded Sociopathic Machines
1:05:09 - Humane lack of Discipline & Al
1:11:01 - >Human Intercourse Isn't Humanity First
1:18:29 - Gear: Weak Armour
1:28:51 - Expendable Soldier Life
1:36:40 - Clunky weapons with Standard Bullets
1:47:49 - Tactics for Human
1:58:23 - >Author intent vs their work
-Bad Military Ideas
2:02:41 - Military Constitutional might
2:08:04 - Meme /Overthrown Democracy
2:12:54 - >Glib Facsimile Arrives
- A Character's Influences & Conviction
2:30:00 - Military Citizenship (Save the ChildBugs)
2:39:25 - Incentives or Conscription
2:45:52 - >Memes
2:49:20 - >'MEDIC!'
2:57:44 - Putz is not Mater Chief(vs 40K)
3:04:46 - Weak Transports & Imageworks History
3:09:12 - Footsoldiers, Artillery, & Air Force/ Video End
3:16:10 - Blame The Controller Intro /Glib's Video
3:19:50 - Arch Questions:
- Lutin 09 /Fav 40k game /Vampires on Orphans
- Deathcall of Creed /Tuska Demon Killer
3:24:05 - Juicy Smollett /Titanicus /Voldemort's 40k Guide
- Witness any Combat /Tabletops /Moviebob in BTM
- Imperium vs CIS /Fav Isakai /Movie MI /Foreruners or Necron
2:33:59 - >Mauler Tempts God -TH-cam-
3:36:01 - Arch Imperium Fighters vs /Car Guy
3:36:31 - >Sargon Returns /Questions
3:38:51 - >Blame the Controller Arrives
- Military Depiction in Movies /Platoon Teamwork
3:48:17 - Live Fire Exercises & Accidents
3:53:17 - The Better Space Marine
3:54:47 - >Arch Warhammer Leaves
- >Sargon of Akkad Leaves /Redemption Arc
3:59:47 - MEDIC! Calling /Ricochet Accident
4:06:09 - >Blame the Controller Leaves
Superchats:
4:08:13 - Cantina Music /Clan Moderation /Future EFAP
- Birds of Prey /Yellowstone Volcano /Creamy /Face Sitting
- Interstellar /Communist or TH-cam /Theme /Gay
4:19:56 - Welsh Words / Metal's Stream /Le Fromage
- Stewie Gay /Fascist /Rag's Birthday /Josh Keefe
- Episode 10 Billion /Matthewmatosis /Intro to Media
4:33:59 - Favorite Mary Sue /Screeching /Path to EFAP
- Suction Cup Man /Issac Arthur /Birds of Prey /Planet Oneshot
- Seaspiders /JJ Starwars /Holdo supremacy /Workday
4:55:54 Clone Birthday /3D Chatter Bait /Boomer
- World of Darkness /Canadian Loli /Supremacy pop
- Primaries /Terminators /Starship thinking /Shave Holdo
5:06:12 - Bugs /Uruguay /American Ben /Renia Mountain /Red Baron
5:11:08 - Oscar Screentime Rose Trilogy /Sociapath Recrout
- Palatines Journey /Sun Tzu /Afraid Kids /Buffy /Sleep Time
- Yea they came /Apex Pro /Adeptus Astratis
5:23:43 - Rose Quote /Movile Infrantry in 40k /Brainbug
- Halo progression /Moving Tanks /Tech /HI M K Reilo Fans Orphans H-man
- Pulse Riffle /Bugs Danger /Nato Standard
5:33:01 - Drought & Sun /Rule34 Rags /Civil War Tactics
- Fleet Formation /Voice-over Work /Comment Censorship
5:39:01 - Buffy Watch Order /Astartis /Sargon's Video /Arch Videos
- Future Fallout /Kid Consent /Clip Length(under 6s) /Other videos
- Soldiers vs Tanks /Philosopher kings /Citizenship /Yoshi
5:49:27 - Heartwarming Soundtrack /Sheev Second LIghtsaver
- Florida /Starship armour /Eternal Darkness Mechanic
- Bilbo / Mario's Death/ Human Intercourse
late timestamps bad
Kept scrolling down to find this, worried it wasn't here. You really should get in contact with Mauler or something so he can consistently pin these. They're too useful not to be.
*deathcorp of krieg
Yellowstone is actually not dangerous. If it's going to blow we will know _decades_ maybe even more in advance. To sargon's "why don't they just ease the pressure?" question, that is actually what the geysers are. The reason it isn't a concern is that it already has several different types of natural safety valves,[oops, that's outdated. Further Investigation concluded that the geysers had minimal effect on the pressure in the lava chamber. Rip.] plus is more likely to expand by melting more stone than to burst.
The earth is actually really well off considering. Most of the "x old destroyer the world!" articles are 99.999999% bullshit.
@Soyman the Sorceror Listen, be the apocalypse you want to see.
@Soyman the Sorceror the earth is actually really difficult to destroy. You might want to set your goals a bit lower
It is overdue though.
I see you are a man of culture as well. I'm interested in the topic of Yellowstone, got some articles behind the science of those geysers?
@@Fuk99999 no it isn't. It _cannot_ be "overdue" because it has no schedule. Saying it's "overdue" is like saying the dinosaurs are overdue to take over the world again. It just doesn't work that way
This guy contradicts himself a lot. I mean, he uses spartan training as an example, which involves intense deadly training. Where Weak kids are weeded out or, at best for the weak ones, crippled for the rest of their short lives. Yet he talks about how this space marine training is TOO intense, while not enough because they don’t put them through at a young age. So he expects them to have special forces level training, while... not?
holly clown To be fair, je didn’t say all aspects of the spartan training were good, it’s coherent to praise the young age+compulsory recruitment, all the while criticizing the level of harshness of said training.
He’s not as smart as he thinks he is
It's almost like that entire channel is made up of barely literate Neanderthals who lift fan theories from Reddit and cram wikia articles into the empty spaces to pad out their scripts in hopes that they may too one day aspire to be almost as high-quality as Watch Mojo.
@@Kevin-jb2pv Watch Mojo went down the drain a long time ago
@@yeetmeister8927
I'm pretty sure that was the joke. I have NEVER seen someone unironically imply WatchMojo is "high-quality."
I think he's making a point as to HOW bad this other channel is.
Have none of you considered that Star Destroyers are just root vegetables? Totally makes sense that they're underground. And how many potatoes know which way is up? Get rekt, objectivity
Well that's just your subjectively objective opinion. In my opinion.
damn, objectivity died that day
Fs in the chat boys
Ryan J. Smith 100% of potatoes, plants have a bunch of mechanisms to grow toward or away from the sun, amongst which mechanisms to detect gravity (the only determinant of up and down in a gravity well).
Which technically means imperial officers are less intelligent than vegetables. You’re welcome.
@@nathanjora7627 they are also less intelligent than baby gungans who can swim up or down basically from birth
Tonald HATES boiled star destroyers though....
Hello fellow Humans. I too have many of the Human Intercourse. But I must point out that the actions of the Human Sargent of the Mobile infantry demonstrate that the Mobile Infantry is an extremely disorganized force lacking in the tactics and in no way did they win any major operations against the bugs. The bugs are awesomer than the Humans in every way and the Humans did not do any human adapations to their metal boxes to defeat the bugs because they have weak singular brains.
Quite Right. Geode.
That sounds like something someone being puppetered by a control bug would say...
*Loads Morita Smart Rifle*
@@hellishhybrid1839 but we are merely engaging in human intercourse, my fellow human. Perhaps we should put down our rifle and have a friendly submission to the obvious and vast superiority of a foe with organisational skills and a caste system that far outstrips our own.
I didn't read the books but judging by the 1st movie alone the government wasn't just military. The ads say "Service 'guarantees' citizenship" but doesn't discount other "less guaranteed" ways of becoming a citizen.
I love this movie. I think, humorous hyper-analysis aside, it's proof that some crazy complex plot isn't required to make a solid flick that withstands the test of time.
Also, service isn’t necessarily military. The government needs various people to function.
@@openaardvark419 yea Neil Patrick Harris isnt direct combat but still serving
Yeah
The military is the most popular option likely because of the threat of the bugs
Kinda like what happened post 9/11
i've read the book years ago and i have to say that it was the only book that is worse than the movie adaptation, it was bad.
Now, Armor from John Steakeley is great, one of my favorite books.
The movies have nothing to do with the books
Disney has the perfect ending for their Star Wars.
Skywalker? All dead and forgotten.
Solos, all dead.
Galactic society? In ruins.
Last and most powerful force user? A Palpatine.
Game over man, just game over.
Edit: Generation Film is a great channel but you have to understand their lore or get their framing. They refer to themselves as “Human Supremacists”, so all their videos are framed to make humans the goods guys, no mater what. Like one of their presenters, the asian one with the weird mustache has an anti-dolphin t-shirt and it’s a lore thing for them. It’s a weird framing device, but it’s how they roll.
See, I would think that was pretty great if only it had been done in an even slightly interesting way.
Alen is the Asian guy, he is the main guy over on generation tech which is also a great channel. Humanity first!
Humanity First.
x "to truly kill a monster, you must rip out its heart"
y "okay, lets do that"
x "this monster... does not have a heart..... buuut, they do have billions of dollary doos... and a lot, of ambition"
y (expression of horror and realization spreads like a stain over their face) "dear..... GOD no!"
@@saerain Alan is the only one on Generation Tech that pulls it off and quips a bit about the silly premise of it
2:44:00 You know.. That veteran is there for a reason, according to the society that Sargon set up.. He's there to prevent weak minded people, who aren't willing to sacrifice their well being for the good of society, from signing up.
In the book, Rico meets the recruitment sergeant (who doesn't wear his prosthetic hand or legs at the desk, btw) again after several hours of aptitude tests and psych evals, and the sergeant actually tells him that part of his job is to scare the less determined away from enlisting.
IIRC, he implied he lost the three missing limbs in an accident of some sort at a research base on Pluto.
So I looked it up.
Good thing I don't trust my memory...
Fleet Sergeant Ho to Juan and Carl: "Look, boys, have you any idea why they have me out here in front?"
[...]
"So they put me out here to discourage you boys. Look at this.” He shoved his chair around to make sure that we could see that he was legless. “Let’s assume that you don’t wind up digging tunnels on Luna or playing human guinea pig for new diseases through sheer lack of talent; suppose we do make a fighting man out of you. Take a look at me-this is what you may buy . . . if you don’t buy the whole farm and cause your folks to receive a ‘deeply regret’ telegram."
[...]
He paused, then added, “So why don’t you boys go home, go to college, and then go be chemists or insurance brokers or whatever? A term of service isn’t a kiddie camp; it’s either real military service, rough and dangerous even in peacetime . . . or a most unreasonable facsimile thereof. Not a vacation. Not a romantic adventure. Well?”
[...]
[On personal preference] "About once in twenty times he is forced to admit that everything matches and you get the job . . . until some practical joker gives you dispatch orders to do something very different. But the other nineteen times he turns you down and decides that you are just what they have been needing to field-test survival equipment on Titan.” He added meditatively, “It’s chilly on Titan. And it’s amazing how often experimental equipment fails to work. Have to have real field tests, though -- laboratories just never get all the answers.”
Afterwards:
And then I recognized him-the Fleet Sergeant who had sworn us in. I guess my chin dropped; this man was in civilian clothes, was walking around on two legs and had two arms. “Uh, good evening, Sergeant,” I mumbled.
He understood my expression perfectly, glanced down at himself and smiled easily. “Relax, lad. I don’t have to put on my horror show after working hours-and I don’t."
[...]
I looked at my hand. The hand he had offered me was the one that wasn’t there -- his right hand. Yet it had felt like flesh and had shaken mine firmly. I had read about these powered prosthetics, but it is startling when you first run across them.
The arch Warhammer, the furry, the enlightened one and gas mask jones.
"enlightened" lol
@@michalnowacki1489 Has lost some weight...
@@michalnowacki1489 More like "galaxy brained master politician"
Sargon? enlightened? yeeeee noooooo
What would you put in for Sargon then because that’s the only thing that I could come with.
The author's intent for their work doesn't take precedent over the qualities of the work itself. If a chef makes a pie but later states that he actually made a cake, the pie is still a pie. It doesn't become a cake just because that's what the chef intended to make.
The chef is usually not dumb enough to do that mistake.
@@TurKlack Rian Johnson is a very dumb chef.
I thought we were talking about J.K. Rowling
@@justiceforjoggers2897 Why not both
@@justiceforjoggers2897 "The cake on page 435 was secretly a trans-pie."
It's weird how he thought that soldiers are supposed to be sociopathic killing machines. That's not even true in the wh40k universe when it comes to marines and guardsmen, and that universe is probably the only one where'd actually be justified, right?
Wait, if he's comparing it to spartans from Halo, then did mistakenly think that that's what spartans are?
I get this feeling that he knows very little about fighting in general, let alone war, because that's a shockingly naive take. Like he himself is incredibly sheltered and has a very, *very* distant understanding of anything relating to physical violence.
@@TaoScribble yeah, it's ironic that he brings up the "urban bubble" when he clearly doesn't understand that people in the army are just normal people, even the special forces. If he served, he'd know this.
Crimson He doesn’t say that soldiers are supposed to be sociopathic killing machines, he is comparing a corps of soldiers to other corps of soldiers, many of which are colloquially sociopathic (devoid of empathy and emotions), which makes the latter superior soldiers when it comes to the ability to kill.
And that is true in the Wh40k universe, lots of the best imperial armies/corps/units are described as devoid of empathy or respect for the value of human lives, or an ability to ignore the stress engendered by danger and the horrors of war, and it’s either true of the officers, or the soldiers, or both.
And I’m talking about the guard here, it’s even truer for the space marines, the sororitas, etc.
By the way, I talk about « the horror of wars » because when they show the context of the clip you hear that his point is about soldiers being most efficient when they aren’t sensitive, or overly sensitive, to violence.
Crimson He never said the contrary, he is comparing fictional soldiers coming from over the top universes where violence is extreme and the soldiers need to be fit to that.
And he is rather obviously talking hyperbolically for humor purposes -_-
@Ellisar Atranimus It's integral to his point. He counts it as a flaw that they weren't recruited as children and experienced suburban life, so they can't be turned into sociopathic killing machines. Are you going to argue that his list is "9 flaws and 1 random joke eks dee". Just because you like his content, don't excuse bad arguments.
Oh boy, an EFAP is a much better investment of my time than human intercourse any day!
Human intercourse is limited for me coz if i go down i dont know how to come back up
Parasocial intercourse is basically the same, right?
@Soapy-kun That's... not something you say out loud
Pretty sure they are not mutually exclusive
@Soapy-kun Calm down there, Hercules.
Nobody likes a braggart.
Finally, after being teased by the theatrical trailer known as EFAP 64, the final cut is out! Sargon and Arch on EFAP, 10 out of 10. This is objectively good.
The Virgin Star Wars vs The Chad Warhammer 40k
which version of Star Wars are we talking old lore or crappy Disney lore?
@@caleboch8181 Honestly the comment is accurate either way.
Even in legends, 40k wins. However, Legends does destroy just about everything else, every si gleam Venator star destroyer has 8 dual-turbolasers that fire 300 megatons of force per shot. That is absurd.
The chadhammer 40k
Star Wars Community: Fighting over whether aliens are racist and how aliens or droids might be oppressed.
Warhammer 40k community: Genocide is the best and only answer.
I think alot of the discussion forgets that they're fighting insects. Creatures that can lift several times their own weight, and still move around and attack (blindly of course) after being decapitated. Killing an insect of that size wouldn't be easy, let alone doing it quickly.
"their guns are bad for CQC." Well all combat against giant fucking insects is bad. Exactly, these things are evolved giant bugs. Stronger, tougher, faster, and far more numerous than humans by far...this guy seems to think swapping from an M-60 to an MP-5 would suddenly shift the tide...I'm so glad this efap just rips this idiot. His ideas are bad and he should feel bad!
With the 7.62 ammo they were using, correct. An M204 would make a difference. Friendly fire would be catastrophic though.
When it comes to kevlar armor, if I wanted to stab you through it would actually be very easy to do so. With a bullet, all that potential energy is transferred very fast and it isnt sustained over a length of time. When stopping a bullet you only need the armor to hold up for that long.
With a knife, its sustained pushing force in a very small space. Now scale that up fifty times and you have a significant problem arising from the fact that, probably, no armor we could ever make could stop that. In addition, even if the armor would be unbroken, the human within would still feel the force of the hit.
Thats why mobility is your ONLY defense. Staying far away from the bugs and attacking from a distance with a wide area CBR attack is THE BEST tactic possible. Failing that, guns are all right, but if they start climbing over the walls youre screwed.
Good point, people should more understand that kevlar isn't "normal" steel
I don't know what the context is to this, but tbf, kevlar with steel inserts is often just referred to as "kevlar".
i'm not listening, naa naa NAA...
waiting for shad to show up and wade into this one... whenever he's done inhaling spaghetti bolognese
Back when I was skating I had a pair of protective glove with Kevlar palms.
I could stop a bullet with my hands, at the cost of shattering every bone.
@@BbNaB like a twenty two, those pads aren't very many layers. Could prolly wonderwoman musket balls tho.
"The transport vehicles aren't designed to battle..." Man, its almost like they AREN'T battleships... They might even just be... Transport ships...
Time for some convoy maneuvers.
1:29:00 the discussion about armor cost was pretty reasonable but weight has been a HUGE factor regarding armoring soldiers historically, so I would expect weight to be a huge factor in the future. In the English civil war, musket proof armor was developed and sold to wealthy generals and lords but by the end the armor was ditched for something lighter. During the 18th century, no one wore armor, not only due to cost but also because armies had to carry most of their equipment on campaigns. There are stories of soldiers ditching equipment like cooking pots on the road because no one wanted to carry them. In more stagnate battlefields like WWI, the Entente and Central powers both created bullet resistant chest and helmet plates but most soldiers just threw them away because they would rather be agile. Of course in the future we may have power armor that elevates most of the weight with mechanical systems, in that case I would say that cost would play a larger factor than agility.
Schnick Cost and energy demands.
If your armor can only operate for an hour, you may have an incentive to buy a hundred to make a small elite force, costly or not, if it can work a hundred hour in autonomy, you have an incentive to buy hundreds and make it the axis of your army.
"but also because armies had to carry most of their equipment on campaigns."
Armies have done that since the Roman Republic if not earlier. The switch to less and less armour was mostly driven by the increasing destructiveness of artillery. It's why we went from partial plate like munition plate or the stereotypical Conquistador armour to allow musket protection to just cloth as a single cannonball could easily ruin a weeks work hammering out the plate for absurdly less work per ball used. With the only reason we ended up going back towards plate during WW1 before the invention and more successful using of the tank being a need to block machinegun fire but the sheer intensity and calibre was far too high for the armour to be beneficial. As such, the ideas for such plate was scrapped and instead, they began moving on to the concept of mobile cover which in turn gave birth to the British infantry support tank classification. Or Infantry Tank for short. But this was then phased out in favour of the Universal tank typing or its more known cousin; the Main Battle Tank.
Starship Troopers makes a point where they say that the anything given not earned is worthless. This extends to voting. In the US voting used to have responsibilities that came with it. Voting meant you had to join the militia, enlist the fire brigade, take part in night patrols and be eligible for the draft. Hell one of the reasons most women in the US were against voting was because of these responsibilities that came with it.
In many states, you didn't "join" the militia, you were militia by virtue of being an able bodied adult male. That is the point of the 2nd amendment. The militia isn't some organization over there, it's *you.*
+@@brofist1959 That's what I said "you had to join the militia". As in it was a requirement. As in it was your responsibility as a citizen of the US of A to defend your community from outside threats, when the need arises. Congratulations all you did was reword exactly what I said while making no other points that could be added to the conversation.
Edit: One more thing are you daft? While the idea of "every american is the militia" exists, there are many documented militias that were formally organized during times of conflict. So I guess it was some organization "over there" that you would just "join".
Well, overlooking that it was originally land owners, and those additional duties as requirements to participate were not immediately mandatory, but implemented as more and more of the working class gained a desire to participate in voting.
people who did not vote i believe still had the right to free speech during that time. that was given freely, so i guess it had no value?
saying something that sounds good A) doesnt mean it applies well to what youre talking about and B) doesnt mean it is even remotely relevant given how our society operates today.
@@duckheadbobCivilians under the Federation still have the right to free speech, you can see that very clearly by the conversation between Rico and his father in which his father is quite clearly using his right to dissent against the Federation.
According to Heinlein even the Right to live isn't something we are given at birth, since nature quite clearly couldn't care less, instead we purchase it through the pain and effort of our first breath.
As a second Point, i think "something given has no value" actually holds true, even for your example, think of all the "hate speech"-laws, people in the UK being jailed over tweets, Guest Speakers at Universities being deplatformed, that's the Right to free speech being treated as if it had no value because People don't actually think about what it means and what it's meant to be for.
The meme that the guy in the vieo was secretly a Bug is hilariious
Murphys law: No battle plan survives the first engagement
Murphy is rolling over in his grave...
Blake Doubrava law of laws no law will ever be attributed to the right person and this is done on purpose to infuriate the few who know
@@animeproblem1070 Judge Dred I am the Law
@@bighelio1093 LAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW!!!!!
Mauler talks about "human intercourse" for 6hrs :P
And?
@@tknier88 It's helping the bugs win
Just what I needed. 🍆
@@alpharius5155 well.... depending on _which_ bugs...
Reposting my comment from the original stream:
Rags, the move from 5.56 back to 7.62 and those in between (6.8 etc.) isn't because modern guns are somehow better at handling the energy.
It's because armor has gotten better. Modern Russian infantry armor (the ceramic plate kind) is actually good enough to withstand the US M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round, a 5.56 NATO cartridge specification. They're starting to think to dial the caliber back up and keep up with these insane gas pressures, hoping to beat that curve again.
The problem is that intermediate calibers and cartridges like 5.56 NATO and 7.62 AK (the x39mm, not the x51mm NATO) were very good for handling; the point of the assault rifle was that a second, or even third, follow-up shot could be made with little adjustment to aim, which was why going from .30-06/7.62 to 5.56 was important in the first place. The same way though that .30-06 was manageable in battle rifles at the time means that going back to 7.62 isn't too much of a deal nowadays, it's not really about "modern guns" as it'll likely be about better training standards and acceptable tradeoffs, because again, armor.
It's actually a bad place to catch ourselves with, right now. If anything, I agree with Rags about "go see how long it takes to equip a modern military with a new gun and bullets" just because of the history of US Ordinance and all their crazy ideas, whether it was being stubborn about .30-06, or the rifle modernization projects that always just end with them picking an AR-15-based platform. So where US Ordinance will go, and how long it'll take for them to make up their minds, is certainly up to see in the future.
Really enjoyed and appreciated Blame's points and that he was willing to share his knowledge and experiences from the military! Hopeful to see him on EFAP again sometime. Wonderful guest!
I poop with door open , it asserts my dominance over the domicile.
Ah, a fellow Alpha
Less
Than
6 HOURS?!?!!?!
*REEEEEEEEEE* 😬
SHORT MAN BAAAD
Its Sargon. Of course the stream was cut short 😂
But part 2 is coming fear not fellow long men fan
*Was that Human Intercourse suppose to be Alfred?*
-Bioloby Baggitus
Curious what this guy thinks of Ender’s Game, where they have 6-12 year olds being trained to kill bugs.
Edit: Apparently he has a video on Ender’s Game. Will check out later
It's probably as bad as this one.
Fritz Philogene II I got three minutes in and the Asian guy named Alan that’s in it hadn’t even started talking about Enders Game. It’s a 10 minute video
@@alexandram5845 fucking hell, I'll bet he's trying to brow-beat the writers for daring to make a story with child soldiers.
These days, I treat Ender's Game as the sequel to Starship Troopers. The war has been going on for so long that it became necessary to recruit child geniuses to learn tactics.
Alex Interesting. I’ve never read or watched Starship Troopers but this stream made me want to.
I'd imagine that the armor the Marines use is more to prevent friendly fire than be effective against the bugs. The bugs are massive lads and that makes it difficult to always see what's on the other side of them when you go to fire. I'd imagine the armor is for that situation.
Shrapnel, its almost always for shrapnel.
Direct fire will always overcome armor when fighting a peer enemy.
The movie always gave me feels of 'humanity just recently got over some internal conflict' cuz training targets are human, tactics are around being shot at in return by humanshaped targets. The training looks startlingly stupid when you think about it because humanity should be training for exo-planet warfare, spacebattle, EVA-suited fighting, as well as have some more 'oh soldiers we can recognize' in terms of peacekeeping mission or patrol-missions in friendly-territory assignments.
Lol Sargon always crashes the streams.
But in all seriousness, it was great to see him finally on EFAP, even if i didn't know what he was talking about, most of the time.
I think his input about how Greek soldiers going blind was intriguing
Rags' poindexter bit about the primaris marines had me crying I was laughing so hard.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Yellowstone of Damocles. SuperChats catchup.
11:40 - Star Wars & Raciest Asians: The Holdo Maneuver & Death Star Destroyers: ENERGY MATTERS!!!
28:20 - Jumping into the Video. Preliminary Disclaimers. Is it working now?
31:00 - Post-Tism restart. Visual Tisms: Chimpanzee Cavalry. The Hopeless Optimism of our future. Arch's Lore Tisms. Give Xenomorphs a chance!! Leave the Xenomorphs alone!!! The Maths of Utilitarian Xenomorph Ethics. Think of the Facehuggers!!! Is Starship Troopers good? Missed Opportunities: is it Alfred? The merits of the Mobile Infantry. _The Human Problem,_ a Xenomorph's Manifesto. Tehran =\= Terran.
49:15 - On War. Sociopathic Killing Machines //Lindybeige has a relevant video. Conditioning = Sociopathy. On Fortitude, Fear, and Courage.
1:03:45 - On the plus side … Bush did nine-eleven _in Spaaaaace._ _"You're embarrassing me in front of the buuugs!"_ Those who live in glass planets should not throw asteroids. Typical democratic fascists! Engaging in human intercourse: an exercise that's antithetical to the Humanity First Doctrine.
1:16:25 - Intentional Oversights. BTS Lore, and the ferocious threat of #MeToo. Comparing Gear. The Tisms of Sequels. R&D is bad moviemaking; Logistics is for Losers. Why didn't you prepare for the thing that you couldn't have possibly anticipated? Tradeoffs in Armor Distribution.
1:36:40 - GUNS!!!!!
1:48:50 - Tactics =\= Strategy.
2:02:45 - On Government. "Universal Suffrage is a mistake" - Sargon 2020. The merits of "fascism" and"oppression." Relaxing the rules for human intercourse: sex is how the bugs win [ MEME ]. "One of the nifty things about Democracy is that if you don't want it, you can vote out" - Waggg's'sss's'z 2020.
2:12:36 - Glib enters and converses. Sargon pwned with Facts and Logic. *_Rational Discourse Intensifies._* Are women the real problem? Arch defends Soviet tactics. Brexit Fallout: Escape From London.
2:38:10 - The future needs oversight from someone more politically-minded: like Sheev Palpatine. Volunteerism is bad: they should be using *_SLAVES_* (or conscripts)! Arch Warhammer agrees.
2:42:35 - It's all just up to your interpretation.
2:46:00 -> Memes.
2:47:07 - Extreme Population Control. We have to conscript the Warrior Bugs, or we'll have to settle for pieces of garbage like the hero who won the movie. Censorship Tisms. Triggering Arch with nerd Tisms.
3:04:45 - Why didn't you prepare for the thing that nobody anticipated? Chat has never heard of the A-10.
3:16:15 - End of video tisms. Sargon goes for smokes/tea - but will he ever return home? Questions for Arch. Can vampires sustain themselves on orphans?
3:22:33 - New guest (Blame the Controller) enters the stream. Arch's commentary on ancient/medieval war. Where can MovieBob fit in the VtM script?
3:37:30 - Sargon returns, answers a question. BtC finally overcomes his tech-tisms.
3:49:20 - //Note that in a conscription scenario, the smartest will figure out how to avoid the draft if so inclined.
3:54:50 - Arch leaves. Sargon leaves.
3:59:35 - "Medic!!!" and other training stories.
4:05:50 - Blame/BtC leaves.
4:08:30 - SuperChats. Incessant Cantina Music. Subtly Liberating Clams. Upcoming EFAP plans. Birds of Prey. Build a wall. Let's blow up Yellowstone. Disabling ewoks' hands. Interstellar was bad. TH-cam is worse than Communism. They already came up with Sargon's Theme. Pronouncing foreign welsh tisms.
4:24:15 - Sardonicast insists that reasonable discourse must end. Starship Troopers on fascism. Rags's new book. When GoT S8? EFAP episode 10 Billion. Seth Green ruined Buffy. Matthew Mitosis. Going to California. Favorite Mary Sue.
4:49:30 - Twitter explodes. Space Leia Chicken. Getting Objectivity Pilled. Suction Cups. Sonic the movie. TROS is more insane than 40K. Children could do better. Holdo's Holocaust. Deflecting Force Choke. Selfish guests. Clone birthdays, presents, and romance. Happy birthday Rags! E-thots mad. "… Oh, it's 6 hours later and they're gone." World of Darkness and Jenny Nicholson sponsor EFAP. Vampire Loli.
5:00:45 - _Nimitz-class_ carriers. Disney movie titles are banned. Kicking Jay. Monkey-tisms. Primaries suck. Terminators can't move their heads. "Hello all my X-words." Who thought more about their worldbuilding? Shaving Holdo's hair. Gas the bugs. Uruguay. Mt. Rainier. The Red Baron. Spartans & Byzantines. KMT's screen time. Fixing Rose Tico.
5:13:05 - Sociopath military divisions. Should have brought on Clausewitz or Sun-zu. Firefly. We only like the middle. Fear is a choice. Good rat. Bugs are sociopathic. Comparing space marines. That's how we're going to win. Would MI hold up vs 40K? Getting sucked by the brain-bug. Progression of technology in worldbuilding. Logistics of shipping tanks.
5:27:20 - Helmets are protective. Note for Anna TSWG. Marry, Kill, Human Intercourse. The Battle of Li'l Slugger. Vietnam. Pulse rifle. Bugs are dangerous because they don't do the human intercourse. Improving the ammo. Skipped SuperChat. Weather-tisms. The 3rd SuperChat. Happy birthday Rags! Settling into siege. Formation tisms.
5:36:45 - Happy Birthday Rags! Paid VO work? Can't say Vietnamese. Buffy Watch Order. Sargon's vid on Starship Troopers. The Knights of Jen. R A. Puberty blockers. The Mandalorian: video-making advice. Pros & Cons of other factions? Troops vs Tanks. Military experience. No oil + Socialism = loss. Plato's Republic.
5:48:28 - Yoshi & pronuncitisms. Sitcoms about Human Intercourse. You need a second lightsaber to defeat Sheev. Have you played Eternal Darkness?
Replying so I can check this again later.
32:30 "there was a survey that showed that 90% of people are optimistic about the future."
Well that didn't age too well.
"Tywin is probably the best tactician in westeros, apart from maybe Randyll Tarly..."
*Laughs in Stannis Baratheon*
The main question has never been answered: Is human intercourse supposed to be Alfred?
(puts hand on bug) ...its Alfred...ITS ALFRED!
Human Intercourse: NO! I'M BATMAN!
Mauler, Rags, Sargon and Arch all in the one Strimm
Truely we have reached PEAK EFAP
Sargon typically destroys everything he touches, so let's be thankful he didnt cause EFAP to implode. The man single handedly drove an entire political party (UKIP) into the dirt.
I do love the oscillating between "he's irrelevant with no influence" and "he single handedly destroys everything". Truth is closer to the former.
Has anyone asked the Xenomorphs opinion on the droid attack on the wookies? Of course not, I bet none of you have ever spoken to Xenomorphs.
It would be better to compare them to ODST from Halo or the Imperial Guardsmen rather than the super-engineered people from these universes
Or the Imperial Navy void infantry
"Master Chief didn't have human intercourse"
- Rags - circa 3:12:26
Time truly makes fools of us all
This is the lore I was looking for...
Under 6 hours? Did someone die?
Edit: oooh there's a second part, of course there is
Can't wait for it to be "Under 11 hours? Did someone die? Oooh this is part one of three, of course."
I find it hilarious that the last words for this part are
Mauler: "Human Intercourse"
Rags's': "Oh!"
33:00 The whole discussion about optimism due to the state of the world and economy is one of those "Hilarious in Retrospect" moment, as this EFAP was recorded just barely before the COVID lockdowns kicked in. Then we had a pandemic, two recessions, a major spike in inflation, a pointless war, and lots of political tensions all across the globe.
However, the fact that even with all that, we're STILL better off than humanity as a whole ever was over its entire history tells volumes about how life sucked before modern infrastructure, medicine, and everything else associated with today's human civilization kicked in.
Also Rags is a bit mistaken on armor in the Great War, when he'd mentioned helmets. Their use of less armor was actually an *improvement* rather than some sort of downgrade. French cavalry rode to war in 1914 in shimmering armor straight out of the Napoleonic era that was made for sword combat and did nothing against machine gun fire, so it was ditched, at that point it was just dead weight. In fact, a bullet to metal armor often just curled the metal of the exit hole in the plate, causing graver wounds.
Helmets were developed to deal with shrapnel and debris from the developing artillery war, never to stop bullets (it was a happy accident that they sometimes did).
Also when they had helmet the general though it made the soldier less careful and get themselves more injured because they had a explotion of head injured. In reality people who would have died before from debris and shrapnel instead just get head wound.
Just like autism
How did the German lobster armor rank? In They Shall Not Grow Old, there was an interview of a Tommy who shot a fellow in the chest, and it did fuck all.
@@mgeiger2341 Yeah, it wouldn't do a thing against a rifle round, might stop pistol rounds, would help with debris, but mostly did little to nothing. Was meant for sentries, like the Stirnpanzer, not wound up in use by the storm troopers, who put them to good use in melee combat.
Sargon: Conscript armies are terrible.
Napoleon: Hold my drink...
The army was at its strongest when it was majority voulenteer. The higher the conscript and new soldier ratios got the worse its performance got. Waterloo was mainly lost because even the old guard was majority young conscripts.
"Who am I again? I forgot..."
-Somebody with dementia
Arch Warhammer and Sargon make their true debut!
I never knew I wanted Arch on EFAP but holy crap he needs to be on again for sure!
He's military version of Shad.
I once had a roommate who was in a US artillery battalion. During a training exercise his unit dropped a 155mm shell through the roof of the ammo depot. They all got dishonorable discharges
Do the space Marines still run the space salvation army? We gotta get those space toys to the space orphans
I can Definitely picture the Salamanders doing that
I'm fairly certain Wolf Santa delivers gifts on Candlemas
I enjoyed listening to conquest tactics of the bug homeworld.
"Everyone has played civilization" is surprisingly one of the less nerdy things someone has said on EFAP
I've always thought that if The Witcher had been made back during the time of Starship Troopers, that Dina Meyer would have made, physically speaking at least, a good Triss Merigold.
Oh man, they were so optimistic just before the end and the death of the good times
I thought they didn't use aircraft for the same reason they didn't use artillery? That being that the bugs have elaborate underground tunnel networks.
Absolutely this, and I think they said in on the stream, but it’s also because the books have them in crazy mech suits that make them mobile tanks with tac nukes. If you have crazy mobile tank suits you don’t really need dedicated artillery because it would ultimately slow you down
Idea for a meme (I can't draw).
The John Adams spider writing on a piece of parchment: "When in the human intercourse of events..."
Yes, this absolutely needs to happen!!
But that was Jefferson
@@skirk248 The original meme had John Adams spider writing "You have the right to enjoy bad movies" into the Constitution, but said document was written by James Madison. Anyway, MauLer is Welsh, and all of us (non-canine) colonists look the same. ;)
@@oldmangimp2468 you're not wrong. Just had to be that colonial
EFAP, Sargon, and Arch Warhammer all together. This pleases me. :)
As for Yellowstone, it's a concern, but geologists aren't sure how close it is. It could go in a few months, or a few thousand years.
We're Americans. We like to live dangerously 👌
@JoeRingo118 Had to google that because I never heard of them before and yeah, I'm not going to defend it. Stupid over-regulation. Nanny-state crap, protecting us from toys. What can I say? I hate big government for reasons like that.
@JoeRingo118 The difference I guess is all those other things you mentioned are for adults, while kinder eggs are for children. Adults are in theory able to make informed decisions. Now, granted, Kinder eggs are an ADULT decision because holy Fuck keep an eye on your kids you fucking morons, but that's the general idea behind it.
Maddog3060
Yellowstone is more likely to just expand and melt than outright erupt, the geysers are acting as natural has release valves.
It's more likely that we all die from a random asteroid impact then Yellowstone ever actually 'going off'. Worst case for Yellowstone is that there's a minor eruption or 2 as a few specific areas blow off pressure, but the damage would be about equal to Mount Saint Helens' eruption, meaning a bunch of natural damage and airway reroutes but little else. Yellowstone already has a bunch of heatsinks that keeps it safe.
Ok, what do we have to do to get some mini reviews of the last 2 Batwoman episodes?! They were esp cringey &ridiculous, &I live for y'alls &JLongbones Batwoman -break- takedowns ;)
Based on the last EFAP, they seemed to have watched episodes 10 + 11.
Waiting on Infinite Tisms first before they start working toward releasing both Batwhamen minis.
@Dog House already do!
@@HalfBrainGamers ya, I fig that, too... Esp since it plays into the BW episodes. I don't dare watch any of the actual episodes, myself - the commentary is where it's at!
Suffer not the alien to live.
Weird thing about Space Marines is they shoot bullets basically the size of red bull cans. I wouldve assumed that the starship troopers wouldve had big bullets too because of the size and armor of their targets
Everyone sing along with Christopher Titus:
.
"Arm the Children!"
Not a game I generally praise, but Halo 4 had a nice moment between Laskey and John, John expresses that it's a soldiers job to protect people and Laskey replies "soldiers are people too"
John isn't normally socialised or even well adjusted, but he's still compassionate and motivated to help people.
Sociopaths don't make good soldiers.
That seems out of character for John feels like he would’ve said civilians
Mainwhile - HALO tv show..... LET US PUT CHIPS IN THE ASSES SO THEY CANNOT FEEL EMOTION!
So I've been considering working on a theory that may or may not interest the people here. I've been watching channels like Sargon's, Tim Pools, and Jordan Petersons and I've noticed they have touched on an idea reflected in critics of Movies and Games. To be specific Mauler, Rags, and their Podcast EFAP are a favorite of mine and they seem to touch on the same philosophical problems in society that the more political and psychological channels are hitting as well. I'm under the impression that some level of postmodernism has taken over nearly every level of liberal arts in college. I realize this sounds obviously true but that is the framework I'm operating from for my theory. Essentially that critics and reviewers with college degrees were taught to only value subjectivity. That college as a whole may be in a Crisis of Objectivity.
I was thinking of looking at esteemed game and movie critics' who pedal the bad takes that are running rampant right now. No one trusts the official game and movie reviewers. But I probably don't need to tell u that. Everyone goes to their favorite TH-camrs for their reviews be it games or movies. Maybe its a lack of credibility in the system that led to this rise in TH-camr critics or perhaps its just the old way lacked a personal connection. I believe it is a bit of both. But I'd like to gather info on these "bad critics" and see if there are any connections that can be made between their year of graduation, where they graduated, film books used in schools during their stay, and what there takes are on certain controversial movies.
Now I just want to state that Birds of Prey is at a higher score on RT than the Oscar-winning Joker. And the internet has decided that game journalists need a mode easier than the easy mode. I'd like to see if I can find a reason for their blatant incompetence. Let me know if you can think of some factors to look into as well and if anyone gets here then thanks for reading. I might do some sort of video if anything of interest pops up and I'd like to hear what you guys think about this whole topic in general.
From
-Bigideas Baggins
And you couldn't run for office until you were finished your term of service.
I honestly don’t see any real issue with the crew numbers on Star Destroyers being upwards of 20,000-30,000.
I know it seems like a lot, but it’s really not that unbelievable when you consider crew sizes that existed on real battleships and cruisers from WWII which were easily 1,500 to 2,700 crew members (Yamato). They do operate like a floating city but from a purely militaristic standpoint. With a Star Destroyer being as large as they are by comparison, with as many weapons, systems and fighters as they surely must contain, I think its totally believable
The funny thing is that 1000s of crewed ships were buried for some reason.
3:22:38 3:39:20
self reminder this is the episode where BlameTheController jumps in mid stream to talk for a bit
Instead of comparing the Starship Troopers mobile infantry (from the movie) to the Space Marines of 40k, they should be compared to the Astra Militarum (imperial gaurds) from 40k.
Not the same backgrounds, but they have FAR more in common than Space marines.
Specifically the IG of Damocles, the 13th Black Crusade or M42 since they had a similar state of logistics merging with strategic demand in a way that forces stuff like Klendathu.
@@essexclass8168 But that defeats the purpose of the question which is “Who’s the best Space Marine?”
@@Lobsterwithinternet the question "who's the best Space Marine?" Is self-defeating to begin with as they don't fill in the same roles.
The Movie's Mobile Infantry are closer to the Imperial Navy's infantry forces than they are to the Astartes which would fit the books' mobile infantry better.
That's like asking who has the best recoilless rifle then comparing the panzerfaust to a fucking Davy Crockett.
Or who has the best destroyer and comparing an ISSD to the Mutsuki or USS Fletcher.
3:01:25
Rags: Master Chief didn't have human intercourse.
Me in 2022:
In the business we call this foreshadowing
For your crimes you have been sentenced to HUMAN INTERCOURSE.
36:00 - Sargon predicts the latest Extra Credits video (bioessentialism) 1 year prior.
Spiders bless!
wasn't the whole issue of the whole who started the war in starship troopers hinted at near the start of the film? that human settlers choose to settle in bug controlled space and were wiped out, afterwards the bugs send a meteor to earth to attack the humans?
*edit i see this was brought up in the video*
If humans go on bugs territory then it's the humans who start the war...
The meteor is just an excuse to be able to exterminate the bugs and at the same time do some population control (as it is hinted there's an overpopulation problem on Earth).
Also, the humans having SS style uniforms and ridiculous pro-human propaganda doesn't help making them the good guys.
And the meteor story is beyond absurd, first the propaganda tells you it came from the other side of the galaxy but also that the lunar defenses presented a bit later couldn't do anything for some reason. At some point, in a movie with such strong of an agenda, it would be nice to stop calling things illogical and badly written and realise it's supposed to indicate something...
These past few months I feel like EFAP is really having a lot of bad takes on movies...
@@dearcastiel4667 Dear Castiel they didnt know for sure if the bugs were there. It was just a quarantined zone, as well the people settling were told not to.
The bugs sent the meteor did come across and there are ways to do so, after all the humans came across in moments.
The "SS Uniforms" was the directors idiocy.
The moon defense came later, it wasnt present at the time of meteor. Again the movie does have some time frame jumping.
Yes much of the movie is horribly written, made worse because the director had a vision ignoring the book but including bits in the book. It doesnt make it better when the "starship troopers is facism satire" have horrible takes.
@@dearcastiel4667 the settlers were warned by the federation not to settle Port Joe Smith as it was bug territory, the bugs sent the asteroid in retaliation and the defenses were established in the aftermath. The movie is told slightly out of order.
The armor was used in one of the Power Rangers series. Starship Troopers probably shares a multiverse with them. I’m sure that has some factor in protecting against space bugs.
2:33:59 - Mauler Tempts -God- TH-cam
Were the time stamps posted? Because I can't find them anywhere except on/for the unlisted 2nd part of the stream.
@@SPTX. If not then we might have had a miscomunication. No harm done, i'll just finish my timestamps for this strean tomorow when I have time.
In defense of the video, I think the point of this was to compare to other fictional space marines. And in terms of having the soldiers be killing machines made to eradicate all alien life. So, most of the points made, or at least the points I've seen so far, have made sense from that perspective.
"This is a good human intercourse..."
-Aragorn
Speaking of Traitor of Mars, that one managed to subvert the federation much better than anything verhoven attempted.
I'd say Starship Troopers 3 succeeded where Verhoven failed by actually being a satire of the Federation.
Btw it’s Called ‘hysterical blindness’ or conversion disorder. There’s that great scene in band of brothers that shows the effects.
Arch and Sargon on EFAP?! I'm so happy
This is the best timeline.
Now only to get dankula on there to
@@WSGCclan Agreed.
Master Chief (and all SPARTAN II’s) receive multiple augmentations that boost them well beyond regular humans. They aren’t quite on the same level as 40k Space Marines (the marines have more advanced genetic engineering) but they are closer than most people realize.
In the novel it takes 4.5 million dollars (that's counting inflation) to train, armor up, and feed a single Mobile Infantryman. This android (I mean "guy") doesn't know how military funding works. Not everything can be galaxy expanding imperium with unlimited resources. I guess what I'm trying to say is, do your research, and compare and contrast my guy.
Just somthing I want to point out at 1:45:50 the reason we are starting to see a resurgence of 7.62 in military usage actually has nothing to do with weapons technology and everything to do with the environments our current military operations are fighting in specifically the point that we are doing a LOT of fighting in middle eastern mountains and deserts where the typical combat range exceeds the maximum effective range of 5.56 which was originally adopted since most warfare was being conducted in cities and forests where the typical combat range was 100m-300m and 7.62 was simply over powered for those ranges.
I like how it ends with "Hey Rags... Human intercourse". 100/10 best ending ever
When a Xenomorph writes a book, it's usually entitled, "How to Serve Man".
EFAP with waiter service, what a great way to make a longcast
16:00 you don’t even need to go that far just make large torpedoes with droid guidance systems and hyper drives and you have yourself a WMD.
I like Arch and Sargon, I want to see them on EFAP more.
Unlikely in archs case considering he apparently has made some racial comments that infer something about his personal views. I'd hope the efap boys steer clear of that mess.
fun fact about the starship troopers movie MI armor; it was reused as the general troopers gear in power rangers lost galaxy (or alt least something extremely close to it)
It was also reused in firefly.
I also come from a military stock (both parents soldiers, born in the base's hospital), and both my parents were SUPER into my education. Don't get me wrong, it was still public education, but anything below an +A was frowned upon. -A or B? "This can be higher. You need to do better." The first time I got a C? _ONE_ C? Oh lord, they acted like I was failing school entirely. D:
Putting myself in others' shoes was also a perpetual mantra. They didn't always practice what they preached (my mother especially), but they'd be damned if I wasn't a goddamn Care Bear in terms of sympathy and empathy. I'm a cold and uncaring jerk _now,_ but back then I could expect a spanking and grounding from mom, and lecture from dad that was so stern I'd _wish_ he'd just given me a spanking, instead.
Sounds like both hell and an absolute state of heaven
The alien artillery bug is show to be able to burrow. Last time when they bomb the area, it miss the Artillery bug because it was underground.
That why the guy who superchat say Air support was useless against Artillery.
“There aren’t volcanos in the US”
*Hawaii has entered the chat*
Brogan St. Helens, Washington Has Entered the Chat
The West Coast: Am I a joke to you?
1:27:00 - Units showing up to Desert Storm in 1991 sometimes had to go in with woodland pattern camouflage covers for their vests, helmets, and even some vehicles, since there wasn't enough time to supply every unit with proper desert gear. This happened again in the 2000's during Afghanistan and Iraq. And the US is currently Earth's most capable military in terms of being able to support its forces logistically, with an enormous industrial complex behind them, fighting relatively small-scale wars.
This is a huge military force, designed to fight other people that aren't as well equipped, being packed in and thrown at what was supposed to be a bunch of stupid bugs. The whole point of the first big battle was to show that the Mobile Infantry had the numbers and firepower, but had severely underestimated the enemy and got BODIED for their overconfidence.
I get that Generation Tech is almost a comedy or parody and their pro-humanity stuff is over the top as part of their persona, but I feel like they forgot the film on this one.
Sargon is racist/xenophobic towards xenomorphs. XD
All they ever do is face rape our women, kill our men, and they follow an outdated monarchic system where they worship their queen as god. As a progressive I think we need to let more into our country...
@@gottesurteil3201 it's speciest to not want mass alien migration
So he is Xenomorphobic?
@@KeacePeeper "phobia" implies the fear is irrational. You'd have to be irrational to NOT fear Xenomorphs
@@scottski02 I think they are kinda hot.