BMW tech here. Those ISM (integrated supply modules) can throw you for a loop, but generally are the main distribution for voltages in very late E Chassis and are in all F chassis vehicles. Even rodent damage on an oil level sensor harness on an F30 328i can blow an internal fuse in them.
We have had quite a few of those,all engine electrical goes through that ism,inside is a circuit board with ordinary fuses soldered to it,keep the old one,you can open it,convert it to removable fuses and use it as a testbox in the future,if you get a short in engine electrical youll want it for diag.,otherwise youll be blowing through new modules until you find the short
Very thorough diag. I agree, these ones will make you go crazy. But upon completion of repair you have a shit eating grin and a huge sense of accomplishment.
Talk about day time training. When I was in flat rate, i had to take losses on cars that had crumbs of info, but in the end it was a learning experience, only the most expensive ones, since it killed my paycheck. Lack of info seems to be what euro service info does best. People don't realize how complex these cars are, and some shop owners as well. They say "it's just a car," I say it's a 20-40 computers on wheels. The car is only what those computers are laid on. Thanks for sharing this one, I'll know what to look for if need be. Btw lack of info sure is better then just plain deceiving info. Jaguar is notorious for sending techs down the wrong road with just plain outright lies in their info. The only thing you can trust is their diagrams. Goods share Mike! On to the next one
I’ve been there,,NO information and bad wiring diagrams!!! And up at night thing about it over and over and over and losing sleep over it.. Just as you did I stay the course all the way to the fix.. Outstanding job 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻+👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That’s one of those rare“ keeps you up at night” type of jobs. But in the end determination and perseverance won out. Man it’s a relief when you finally get it fixed though . Awesome job.
A VERY REAL WORLD DIAGNOSTIC , I HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE DIAGNOSTICS LIKE THIS FROM YOU . I AM SHORE THE SHOP KNOWS IT'S BETTER TO CHARGE FOR THE DIAGNOSTIC THEN TO TURN IT AWAY . JUST A FEELING BUT I THINK THIS CAR MY HAVE BEEN TO OTHER SHOPS ALSO MY BE EVEN THE DEALERSHIP . SO WHEN YOUR SHOP IS THE LAST LINE OF DEFENSE FROM SCRAPING THE VEHICLE I THINK THE SHOP SHOULD ENCOURAGE ITS TECHS AND ASSIST THEM WITH WHAT THEY MAY NEED TO ACCOMPLISH THESE IN DEPTH DIAGNOSTICS'S . THERE WHERE SO MANY WAS THIS DIAGNOSTIC COULD OF WENT BUT IN THE END YOU STUCK WITH IT CLEARED YOUR NAME AND MADE THE SHOP A GOOD CHUNK OF CHANGE . THANKS FOR TAKING YOUR TIME OUT TO PRODUCE THIS VIDEO AND UNTIL NEXT TIME .
Good Day @Flat Rate Master I am having similar issue. The X5 E70 35i Cranks but doesn't start. In the Integrated Supply Module(Power Distribution Fuse Box-Z11) the last fuse F03 of 15A keeps on blowing OFF when I connect the battery. Things I have noted 1. When I disconnect the HFM the fuse Doesn't Blow OFF 2. Connect the HFM and disconnect the the connector with 3 pins (X60184) the fuse Doesn't Blow OFF 3. when I Disconnect all the Connectors from DME and when checking for a short circuit I get a small short circuit like behavior from the +ve terminal(which we use to Jump Start the Car) which is in the engine compartment. and when I disconnect the FRM connectors from the Fuse box A4010 the +ve terminal doesn't show the short circuit. Below is the Error codes I am getting when everything is connected and the Z11 F03 Fuse blown state: 332F 2E4B 2D52 2D9C 2C89 300C 300E 277A 3400
Trouble tree sometimes is just something to hang your self on lol The boys at parts store would of gladly scanned it for you for FREE!!! am glad you are sharing this not just anyone would share Had a new KW something similar days,DAYS of going over the same thing, talk about all emotions going off ,anger,wet eyes,teeth grinding Yup feel your pain
Gotta love these Euro cars. Dealing with a 2011 X5 right now. Crank no start. I replaced the IVM and still no start. Same code. Wish I was lucky as you, the battle continues. Staring to thing the DME took a shit since its not grounding pin 4 at the ivm. Even more fun is that you would think if I bypassed it and grounded it myself it would work. Nope. Because Das auto. If I owned my own shop I'd be sending shit like this elsewhere
Z11, relay/fuse box, has relays for the valvetronic, fuel injection/ignition and DME main relay. I've seen this before. Hit me up next time. I have 15 years of JUST working on BMWs.
JC Superstars Have a 2003 x5 that cranks but won’t start. New Radiator, New thermostat housing, new battery. Still won’t turn over. Fuel pump is fine. Any suggestions?
Hey JC Superstars. I'm having a very similar issue but on a 2012 X5 35d, and I don't think what solved this guy's problem will be the same as mine. Is there a way I can contact you directly and run my situation by you. Happy to pay you for your time.
i have a 2012 BMW X5 35D that looks like a Integrated Supply Module....where the hell did you i find that part your video just poped up and this vid is 4 yrs old good lord ....just was wounder where its located at ? thanks
My X5 2008 stops starting, it happened unexpectedly. One morning just tried to turn it on and nothing, just cranks but do no starts, I change the fuse box, because I found some rust and green/blue salt over terminal , seem slike some water was leaking for some time, but... the same issue. Just cranks but does not start. The failures I have from the scanner are A03B CAS starter motor terminal 50, 2EFE DME fan activation, 2F44 DME prevent manipulation. Do you have an idea what may causes the failure. I am really angry and desperate. thank you
I've had the front power distribution box puzzling me a lot on an X3. I think it was a 2011. It was giving me DSC undervoltage code, and the car would loose power, power steering, all lights in kombi would light up, but of course it was intermitent and never acting up in the shop. I work at a dealership so I was able to have BMW help me on this one. This is the main reason I love these cars. They are not always easy to fix!!!
I’m dealing with this now on a f15 x5. Main code is same definition as your first code. Ista code is 1f4a10. Opened the ism. All fuses good. Put it back. Still crank No start. Swapped ism from a donor car. Still same. Checked the power distribution box on top of the battery. Also has unserviceable fuses. This is kicking my ass. All modules are communicating. This has turned into a nightmare
I have 2008 BMW X5 4.8i cranking but not start... so far things replace -starter and battery -canshaft sensor -fuel pump and relay -checked other fuses Check engine lights comes some times but goes away every you start it . My X5 does not have that module you talked about but I checked front fuse box and everything is fine no water at all... Any help Master!!!
Great video and great information on this one Michael! I bet you will see this problem again and who’s going to fix it in 10 min when even the dealer will throw their hands up in the air : you! 👍👍👍
great video FM i can see where this would drive you nuts there are 3 engines 4.4 twin turbo 3.0 singel turbo and twin turbo 3.0 diesel. Motologic calls that part a current distributor for the 3.0 turbo gas nothing for the 4.4 twin turbo it also has another name B junction box way to hang in there and share a very helpful video thanks
Hi my 2007 BMW 520d was parked for few weeks every so often I kept starting it but eventually it run out of diesel and battery died so I recharged the battery I put about 20 litre of diesel but the car wouldn't start. Do you have any idea?
Thanks for the video. Basically who designed this car was really ingenuous.... they put an electronic board inside a gutter. Yes it is a gutter since that compartment where this module is sitting, is designed to flow water coming down from passenger side windshield and then expelling it through a tiny drain at the bottom. The drain is very thin, is about 2 millimeter wide and 3 centimeters long. Leaves and sand will find their way to clog it and water will accumulate, especially after a car wash.... and it will rise to the level where the board is sitting and splash or submerge it. The system is ingenuous, because it will not trigger a failure that will ruin the engine or very expensive parts. For the brand would look very bad when an engine grenade, yet this little bitch module failure will require a lot of trouble shooting and trial and error with parts that will be bought and cannot be returned if no needed and hours that will be billed. If the car ends at a dealer shop, they may fix it in an hour, because they know better, yet they will replace a starter motor even if not needed, after all the car wasn't starting was it? Than charge a 1200$ to the customer just replacing a 140$ part. These little "design flaws" are an ATM for BMW.
Once spent days on a Dodge Caravan for blowing tail lamp fuse. Eventually tracing it to under the dash pad where i found the factory had screwed a bracket on to and through the harness.
Man I feel for you. I was a tech for 15 years finally got out of it because issues like this. No info on problem, writer wants you to throw parts at it. You have my complete respect for sticking at it.
just under the passenger side microfilter housing area. Behind the right front strut tower. Where the brake booster would be in a right hand drive car.
All the info on Bmws are mostly in the factory tooling. Sometimes it misses some stuff but its best option if doing alot of bmws. Usually can just look for puddle of water lol. Great job. Were you using a Icom or jbox for Ista?
I would like to get the error code while it was in Cranking n no start condition because my car is in garage in similar condition. They ask me to replace the DME
As a shop owner I've been struggling with whether it's worth it for my techs to spend so much time diagnosing these weird electrical issues or send them to a dealer (who usually just throw darts till they hit something)
I got 2DB6 & 371E which need ISM, i replaced it and yet have the same issue. I think in your case 371B was the issue in this case. I am not getting 371B
UPDATE: Car is fixed. I had to tow it to the dealer. They said it is DME. I had no choice but say yes do it. Spend around $3,000 for parts and labor at the BMW dealer. Error: 2DB6 Valvetronic relay activation line disconnection 371E Relay, ignition and injectors, activation line disconnection I did the following before going to the BMW to fix it for me: 1. Power Distribution Box W Fuse (returned back to seller) 2. ISM - Integrated Power Supply Module 3. New Battery 4. EKPM3 Fuel pump module computer unit (returned back to seller) 5. Fuel pump 6. Relays in the trunk fuse box (circuit relays small black ones) 7. Verified ground straps. 8. Verified every single fuse several times:(
Dude, what is the part number and WHERE is this part???? It's great that you spent all theme tracking it down, and doing this video about what the issue and solution was, but without knowing WHERE this part is, and what the PART NUMBER is, it won't help any of us... Please?
I know this is an old video so this post is an FYI to anyone working on beamers. I began my education on BMW about 10 years ago. Just recently I had a similar issue on a BMW no crank no start. I have discovered that BMW doesnt always send updates in their paper book wiring diagrams nor online wiring diagrams to the companies they contract for said info. On top of that they wont give complete data on the fuse box descriptions for their fuses; unk if that is on purpose or not. I had to stare for a week at wiring diagrams until I tgought my eyes were gonna fall of my face. Turns out there was a splice connection after the fuse that blew, once it blew it removed power to the EWS transmitter so no key chip data to the EWS module and no ECM authorization to power the starter. Since fuses dont blow without cause I then looked for the location of that splice connection but couldnt find it, it wasnt listed. There was a splice that was a few numbers off, but my splice I was looking for was non existant in that diagram. All I could surmise is BMW had an update but didnt notify the wiring diagram company I was using. I got lucky, replaced the fuse and the car ran fine, without further complications.
Wouldnt it be interesting if the supplier of the wiring diagrams or the manufacturer of the vehicle, could be held liable for published misinformation, poor engineering or negligence for not updating the known incorrect information that's out there. The bottom line is you cared enough and had the detrrmination to see it through to the fix! I commend you. You get a Gold star next to your name for this one.....I have to wonder if the customer has any idea how blessed they are to have found someone like you.
Thanks great video and had a 99 suburban no start when got above 90 degrees of fuse was loose in the fuse box and it turned up the fuse so it would start
@@flatratemaster Ahhhh, it all becomes clear! I spent all day pulling vw mk4 1.8t out, loading it into a privia, and then trying to get it back out again. Started at about 2pm and just finished. Most of this was done solo. Not fun lol btw youve definitely helped alot on this end! Keep em coming :)
You will be a hero next time you get a BMW in with that problem! Make sure the book time is something like 5 hours though so you can recoup some lost wages from the first go-around...
just under the passenger side microfilter housing area. Behind the right front strut tower. Where the brake booster would be in a right hand drive car.
This is also a good time to point out that sometimes you just have to look at the wires in the car, follow the harnesses. Instead of searching online for the wires, look at the car. Could be simple. I know it's easy to say that now, lol.
Just lime the chevy 2500 we had last week. No turn signals, kept blowing 15amp fuse. No where in schematic is side view mirror listed, but sure enough, we happened along a wire that is part of that circuit. Took care of that wire, problem solved.
So the reason you couldn't find that module is cause it's not a module it's a terminal, terminal 37 to be exact and it has like 6 fuses inside. I'm not trying to be a know all just thought I'd mention why it was hard to find.
That's one of those things that pisses me off beyond belief with this industry is the lack of information or incorrect information. Its a good thing we just plug a computer in and it tells use whats wrong with that car, right!
If you just need a code reader I would recommend you to download B-tool around 12$ i guess from APP Store and use a OBD2 wired Connector to check the faults. Its a handy tool for all BMW Owners. Codes are explained in German so I use google or N55 doc related to fault codes to understand and rectify the issue
There is nothing more frustrating than working on a code that shows no information! Then where you go? You did very good my friend. I'll recommend you to contact Autologic and try the Drive Pro. Their support team is the best! You will never have an issue like this and never would take you days to fix a car. Drive Pro cover all Euro-Asian-Domestic. Price is better than Snap on and a litter over Autel, support fee is less than $300 a month. So depending on the flow of programing and coding a month it makes completely sense! I am a happy owner and would be a loyal costumer of Autologic for long time.
Thanks my friend. I have thought about Autologic we shall see, ISTA is cheap at 30 a day and have a jbox as long as it isn't a fcar, may wind up with an ICOM at some point
New Level Automotive may have something to say about this one.
Good shit bro...this was one of them times that made u wanna go to lunch and never come back!😂
Yep
BMW tech here. Those ISM (integrated supply modules) can throw you for a loop, but generally are the main distribution for voltages in very late E Chassis and are in all F chassis vehicles. Even rodent damage on an oil level sensor harness on an F30 328i can blow an internal fuse in them.
Well that sucks
We have had quite a few of those,all engine electrical goes through that ism,inside is a circuit board with ordinary fuses soldered to it,keep the old one,you can open it,convert it to removable fuses and use it as a testbox in the future,if you get a short in engine electrical youll want it for diag.,otherwise youll be blowing through new modules until you find the short
Thanks for the tip!
Suggestion... Put code in title so it can be searched on to help others.
That's a good idea
Very thorough diag. I agree, these ones will make you go crazy. But upon completion of repair you have a shit eating grin and a huge sense of accomplishment.
Talk about day time training. When I was in flat rate, i had to take losses on cars that had crumbs of info, but in the end it was a learning experience, only the most expensive ones, since it killed my paycheck. Lack of info seems to be what euro service info does best. People don't realize how complex these cars are, and some shop owners as well. They say "it's just a car," I say it's a 20-40 computers on wheels. The car is only what those computers are laid on. Thanks for sharing this one, I'll know what to look for if need be. Btw lack of info sure is better then just plain deceiving info. Jaguar is notorious for sending techs down the wrong road with just plain outright lies in their info. The only thing you can trust is their diagrams. Goods share Mike! On to the next one
Thanks Mario
Stuff like this proves my theory that the Germans are still pissed about losing the war.
this car was made in South Carolina. But whatever to keep your bad joke going.
@@jcsuperstars1100 was designed and engineered in Germany. Just assembled in North America.
I’ve been there,,NO information and bad wiring diagrams!!! And up at night thing about it over and over and over and losing sleep over it.. Just as you did I stay the course all the way to the fix.. Outstanding job 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻+👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice video, thank you! could you say where the power distribution box is located? Thank you.
No shit. Or a part #
Nicely done! Hard enough to fix vehicles today with good service info, but without it, it quickly becomes a nightmare.
What is the part number for this module? Great video and awesome work!
That’s one of those rare“ keeps you up at night” type of jobs. But in the end determination and perseverance won out. Man it’s a relief when you finally get it fixed though . Awesome job.
A VERY REAL WORLD DIAGNOSTIC , I HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE DIAGNOSTICS LIKE THIS FROM YOU . I AM SHORE THE SHOP KNOWS IT'S BETTER TO CHARGE FOR THE DIAGNOSTIC THEN TO TURN IT AWAY . JUST A FEELING BUT I THINK THIS CAR MY HAVE BEEN TO OTHER SHOPS ALSO MY BE EVEN THE DEALERSHIP . SO WHEN YOUR SHOP IS THE LAST LINE OF DEFENSE FROM SCRAPING THE VEHICLE I THINK THE SHOP SHOULD ENCOURAGE ITS TECHS AND ASSIST THEM WITH WHAT THEY MAY NEED TO ACCOMPLISH THESE IN DEPTH DIAGNOSTICS'S . THERE WHERE SO MANY WAS THIS DIAGNOSTIC COULD OF WENT BUT IN THE END YOU STUCK WITH IT CLEARED YOUR NAME AND MADE THE SHOP A GOOD CHUNK OF CHANGE . THANKS FOR TAKING YOUR TIME OUT TO PRODUCE THIS VIDEO AND UNTIL NEXT TIME .
Had not been to other shops, it was towed right to us, as 2 months ago, it stalled with a high pressure pump failure
Ivm. Integrated voltage supply module. Supplys power to injectors, coils vvt motor and other stuff
Good Day @Flat Rate Master I am having similar issue. The X5 E70 35i Cranks but doesn't start.
In the Integrated Supply Module(Power Distribution Fuse Box-Z11) the last fuse F03 of 15A keeps on blowing OFF when I connect the battery.
Things I have noted
1. When I disconnect the HFM the fuse Doesn't Blow OFF
2. Connect the HFM and disconnect the the connector with 3 pins (X60184) the fuse Doesn't Blow OFF
3. when I Disconnect all the Connectors from DME and when checking for a short circuit I get a small short circuit like behavior from the +ve terminal(which we use to Jump Start the Car) which is in the engine compartment. and when I disconnect the FRM connectors from the Fuse box A4010 the +ve terminal doesn't show the short circuit.
Below is the Error codes I am getting when everything is connected and the Z11 F03 Fuse blown state:
332F
2E4B
2D52
2D9C
2C89
300C
300E
277A
3400
Trouble tree sometimes is just something to hang your self on lol
The boys at parts store would of gladly scanned it for you for FREE!!!
am glad you are sharing this not just anyone would share
Had a new KW something similar days,DAYS of going over the same thing, talk about all emotions going off ,anger,wet eyes,teeth grinding
Yup feel your pain
Gotta love these Euro cars. Dealing with a 2011 X5 right now. Crank no start. I replaced the IVM and still no start. Same code. Wish I was lucky as you, the battle continues. Staring to thing the DME took a shit since its not grounding pin 4 at the ivm. Even more fun is that you would think if I bypassed it and grounded it myself it would work. Nope. Because Das auto. If I owned my own shop I'd be sending shit like this elsewhere
Z11, relay/fuse box, has relays for the valvetronic, fuel injection/ignition and DME main relay. I've seen this before. Hit me up next time. I have 15 years of JUST working on BMWs.
Thanks
Yes thanks!
JC Superstars Have a 2003 x5 that cranks but won’t start. New Radiator, New thermostat housing, new battery. Still won’t turn over. Fuel pump is fine.
Any suggestions?
Hey JC Superstars. I'm having a very similar issue but on a 2012 X5 35d, and I don't think what solved this guy's problem will be the same as mine. Is there a way I can contact you directly and run my situation by you. Happy to pay you for your time.
Hey JC. let me know more about this as I'm having a crank then no start or start and die problem.
i have a 2012 BMW X5 35D that looks like a Integrated Supply Module....where the hell did you i find that part your video just poped up and this vid is 4 yrs old good lord ....just was wounder where its located at ? thanks
Thank you Mike. I feel for you. Keep Diagnose Dan on speed dial. Have a good week. I appreciate your videos.
you just saved my butt. I am not a bmw tech by no means but I get stuck with them. same issue no information on codes
I love case studies, especially on german cars. Thank you
My X5 2008 stops starting, it happened unexpectedly. One morning just tried to turn it on and nothing, just cranks but do no starts, I change the fuse box, because I found some rust and green/blue salt over terminal , seem slike some water was leaking for some time, but... the same issue. Just cranks but does not start. The failures I have from the scanner are A03B CAS starter motor terminal 50, 2EFE DME fan activation, 2F44 DME prevent manipulation. Do you have an idea what may causes the failure. I am really angry and desperate. thank you
I've had the front power distribution box puzzling me a lot on an X3. I think it was a 2011. It was giving me DSC undervoltage code, and the car would loose power, power steering, all lights in kombi would light up, but of course it was intermitent and never acting up in the shop. I work at a dealership so I was able to have BMW help me on this one. This is the main reason I love these cars. They are not always easy to fix!!!
I’m dealing with this now on a f15 x5. Main code is same definition as your first code. Ista code is 1f4a10. Opened the ism. All fuses good. Put it back. Still crank No start. Swapped ism from a donor car. Still same. Checked the power distribution box on top of the battery. Also has unserviceable fuses. This is kicking my ass. All modules are communicating. This has turned into a nightmare
I have 2008 BMW X5 4.8i cranking but not start... so far things replace
-starter and battery
-canshaft sensor
-fuel pump and relay
-checked other fuses
Check engine lights comes some times but goes away every you start it .
My X5 does not have that module you talked about but I checked front fuse box and everything is fine no water at all...
Any help Master!!!
Did u solve it???
Great work Mike, that was a nightmare but you are the winner in the end👍
I miss working on cars, then i get over it pretty quickly.
Great video and great information on this one Michael! I bet you will see this problem again and who’s going to fix it in 10 min when even the dealer will throw their hands up in the air : you! 👍👍👍
Tsb= that saved butt
great video FM i can see where this would drive you nuts there are 3 engines 4.4 twin turbo 3.0 singel turbo and twin turbo 3.0 diesel. Motologic calls that part a current distributor for the 3.0 turbo gas nothing for the 4.4 twin turbo it also has another name B junction box way to hang in there and share a very helpful video thanks
Nice work stuck in there and got it fixed and great video as always
Thanks FRM for sharing!
How did the water get in there? Is it in the front of the engine?
it is under the cabin filter, drain for that well was clogged
Good find Mike!
Thanks Dan
@@flatratemaster ,
How many hours were you paid flat rate??
Hi my 2007 BMW 520d was parked for few weeks every so often I kept starting it but eventually it run out of diesel and battery died so I recharged the battery I put about 20 litre of diesel but the car wouldn't start. Do you have any idea?
Doesn't get any better until it's fixed....i.e..no dollars until...I'm in a different trade. Enjoy your vids. Nice job.
Hey I have a 2005 bmw x5 and im having the same problem. So i decided to look for that module and cant find it. Car got no codes. Cranks but no start.
Glad you fix it!
Me too!
Thanks for the video.
Basically who designed this car was really ingenuous.... they put an electronic board inside a gutter.
Yes it is a gutter since that compartment where this module is sitting, is designed to flow water coming down from passenger side windshield and then expelling it through a tiny drain at the bottom. The drain is very thin, is about 2 millimeter wide and 3 centimeters long. Leaves and sand will find their way to clog it and water will accumulate, especially after a car wash.... and it will rise to the level where the board is sitting and splash or submerge it.
The system is ingenuous, because it will not trigger a failure that will ruin the engine or very expensive parts. For the brand would look very bad when an engine grenade, yet this little bitch module failure will require a lot of trouble shooting and trial and error with parts that will be bought and cannot be returned if no needed and hours that will be billed. If the car ends at a dealer shop, they may fix it in an hour, because they know better, yet they will replace a starter motor even if not needed, after all the car wasn't starting was it? Than charge a 1200$ to the customer just replacing a 140$ part.
These little "design flaws" are an ATM for BMW.
Once spent days on a Dodge Caravan for blowing tail lamp fuse. Eventually tracing it to under the dash pad where i found the factory had screwed a bracket on to and through the harness.
Wow, fun😐
Where is this fuse box located at that you found it wasn't on the diagram
Man I feel for you. I was a tech for 15 years finally got out of it because issues like this. No info on problem, writer wants you to throw parts at it. You have my complete respect for sticking at it.
Great job
Mybe someday another one
will come in and you will
make up for it because
you will know what to do
Where was the power distribution module located , anything to stop further water intrusion ?
just under the passenger side microfilter housing area. Behind the right front strut tower. Where the brake booster would be in a right hand drive car.
You could go and teach the young bucks at a local college, you got the voice for it.
All the info on Bmws are mostly in the factory tooling. Sometimes it misses some stuff but its best option if doing alot of bmws. Usually can just look for puddle of water lol. Great job. Were you using a Icom or jbox for Ista?
Lol, Jbox, but Icom may be in my future with a the Fcars we see
I would like to get the error code while it was in Cranking n no start condition because my car is in garage in similar condition. They ask me to replace the DME
As a shop owner I've been struggling with whether it's worth it for my techs to spend so much time diagnosing these weird electrical issues or send them to a dealer (who usually just throw darts till they hit something)
I have Thanked God , many times for Identifix.
Wish more techs would contribute to the confirmed fix banks.
Great job! Loved this video, I feel your pain.
I got 2DB6 & 371E which need ISM, i replaced it and yet have the same issue. I think in your case 371B was the issue in this case. I am not getting 371B
UPDATE:
Car is fixed. I had to tow it to the dealer. They said it is DME. I had no choice but say yes do it. Spend around $3,000 for parts and labor at the BMW dealer.
Error:
2DB6 Valvetronic relay activation line disconnection
371E Relay, ignition and injectors, activation line disconnection
I did the following before going to the BMW to fix it for me:
1. Power Distribution Box W Fuse (returned back to seller)
2. ISM - Integrated Power Supply Module
3. New Battery
4. EKPM3 Fuel pump module computer unit (returned back to seller)
5. Fuel pump
6. Relays in the trunk fuse box (circuit relays small black ones)
7. Verified ground straps.
8. Verified every single fuse several times:(
Yeah does N55 are notorious for that, I’ve had several 535i GT with that issue
Dude, what is the part number and WHERE is this part???? It's great that you spent all theme tracking it down, and doing this video about what the issue and solution was, but without knowing WHERE this part is, and what the PART NUMBER is, it won't help any of us... Please?
“Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield”
I know this is an old video so this post is an FYI to anyone working on beamers. I began my education on BMW about 10 years ago. Just recently I had a similar issue on a BMW no crank no start. I have discovered that BMW doesnt always send updates in their paper book wiring diagrams nor online wiring diagrams to the companies they contract for said info. On top of that they wont give complete data on the fuse box descriptions for their fuses; unk if that is on purpose or not. I had to stare for a week at wiring diagrams until I tgought my eyes were gonna fall of my face. Turns out there was a splice connection after the fuse that blew, once it blew it removed power to the EWS transmitter so no key chip data to the EWS module and no ECM authorization to power the starter. Since fuses dont blow without cause I then looked for the location of that splice connection but couldnt find it, it wasnt listed. There was a splice that was a few numbers off, but my splice I was looking for was non existant in that diagram. All I could surmise is BMW had an update but didnt notify the wiring diagram company I was using. I got lucky, replaced the fuse and the car ran fine, without further complications.
Wouldnt it be interesting if the supplier of the wiring diagrams or the manufacturer of the vehicle, could be held liable for published misinformation, poor engineering or negligence for not updating the known incorrect information that's out there. The bottom line is you cared enough and had the detrrmination to see it through to the fix! I commend you. You get a Gold star next to your name for this one.....I have to wonder if the customer has any idea how blessed they are to have found someone like you.
Thanks great video and had a 99 suburban no start when got above 90 degrees of fuse was loose in the fuse box and it turned up the fuse so it would start
Where is location of the power distribution module?
I felt your pain brother.
Where was that modular located and how on earth did it fill with water?!
Under the cabin air filter, drain was clogged
@@flatratemaster Ahhhh, it all becomes clear! I spent all day pulling vw mk4 1.8t out, loading it into a privia, and then trying to get it back out again. Started at about 2pm and just finished. Most of this was done solo. Not fun lol btw youve definitely helped alot on this end! Keep em coming :)
@@flatratemaster what's the part number
Interesting. Is this a normal issue (wiring, no code info) with BMW’s?
Bmw, along with most Euro have all of their service info in their scan tool, so one of the issues in the aftermarket is little info
You will be a hero next time you get a BMW in with that problem! Make sure the book time is something like 5 hours though so you can recoup some lost wages from the first go-around...
that happen to me in the diesel world the power distribution module kick my butt...pretty common water get in the module and goes weird
The rubics cube has beaten many and you won.
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Your best video
ugggh! i know the feeling... but its fixed and that's a great feeling! where was the power module located ?
just under the passenger side microfilter housing area. Behind the right front strut tower. Where the brake booster would be in a right hand drive car.
@@jcsuperstars1100 ok....thanks!
Where is this module located?!
This is also a good time to point out that sometimes you just have to look at the wires in the car, follow the harnesses. Instead of searching online for the wires, look at the car. Could be simple. I know it's easy to say that now, lol.
Lol
What is "THIS MODULE"?
Just did one of them today
I know how you Feel. I'm Hard headed. if i take it in I'll lose My ASS to figure it out
Replaced quite a few of those
Where is that box located
What a nightmare. Where was that module located ?
So where was that module located?
Where is the module located
Bring it to the dealer Bmw keeps info from independent shop bro I learned that the hard way
In fact this video is very educational.
There more to come for us it just the beginning.
Where is that Module located at
Location of that part that fixed it
Just lime the chevy 2500 we had last week. No turn signals, kept blowing 15amp fuse. No where in schematic is side view mirror listed, but sure enough, we happened along a wire that is part of that circuit. Took care of that wire, problem solved.
so where was this part located
Been there done that, sucks ass everytime. Hard to stick with it when you start doubting yourself.
Wiring diagram only shows the path of current. Look at the Schematic Diagram!
Where is this module located on a 2012 BMW X5 35i drive
Firewall below the cabin air filter
Nevertheless, you are the master.
Good video where was the module and why was it wet
Under the cabin filter, customer likes to park under a tree and the drain was clogged
Thanks wonder what this cost him for having a clogged drain
So the reason you couldn't find that module is cause it's not a module it's a terminal, terminal 37 to be exact and it has like 6 fuses inside. I'm not trying to be a know all just thought I'd mention why it was hard to find.
Thanks man,, but where is that module located man?
Under the cabin air filter on the firewall
That's one of those things that pisses me off beyond belief with this industry is the lack of information or incorrect information. Its a good thing we just plug a computer in and it tells use whats wrong with that car, right!
Great man love it
Name of the module?
Not same codes but crank not start fuel k help me
There’s a good website called realoem, they have good bmw diagrams.
realoem is great for PARTS diagrams, not wire.
Bowel Movement on Wheels. Times five.
where did you get a hold of ISTA? how much the signup fee?
www.bmwtis.com/, you will need an approved J box or Icom the BMW interface and a Window 10 PC that meets requirements, it is $30 a day
If you just need a code reader I would recommend you to download B-tool around 12$ i guess from APP Store and use a OBD2 wired Connector to check the faults. Its a handy tool for all BMW Owners. Codes are explained in German so I use google or N55 doc related to fault codes to understand and rectify the issue
There is nothing more frustrating than working on a code that shows no information! Then where you go? You did very good my friend. I'll recommend you to contact Autologic and try the Drive Pro. Their support team is the best! You will never have an issue like this and never would take you days to fix a car. Drive Pro cover all Euro-Asian-Domestic. Price is better than Snap on and a litter over Autel, support fee is less than $300 a month. So depending on the flow of programing and coding a month it makes completely sense!
I am a happy owner and would be a loyal costumer of Autologic for long time.
Thanks my friend. I have thought about Autologic we shall see, ISTA is cheap at 30 a day and have a jbox as long as it isn't a fcar, may wind up with an ICOM at some point