Need to be quick sometimes though. Like that bit with the sand demon on Tatooine as a Sith warrior, if you mess up (as a light side Sith) and cause the demon to attack you, youll have like 1 second to press the escape key before its too late.
That's actually true, mostly option 3 gives dark side points, does bad stuff, and makes your evil companions happier(increases affection) , so my light sith picks option one mostly
+Edison Trent It's actually really cool, no matter what class or faction you can make lightside or darkside choices which change up the game a bit :P A light-side Sith is actually viable and interesting, rn I'm playing as a dark jedi
For me it was just: *Playing a male Jedi Knight* Female NPC: "Bla Bla Bla great danger Bla Bla im afraid" Me: "Hm what should I say ..... oh boy an option to flirt with her ?" I was the biggest lady killer in the galaxy
My first character was a Jedi Guardian, he was meant to be small... later in the game after many hours of being a lightside pansy I realised. Why the fuck is a 5ft tall man considered a tank? And my character looked about 14... so then I stopped playing at level 20 and went onto a normal sized imperial agent, surpassing level 20. The story has still gripped me. Too sad that I'm handicapped by my f2p status, it's like I have chains on my legs and EA offers the key for a price and keeps changing the lock every month so I have to keep paying for freedom on the game.
***** Typical for the developers to make such a trite and repetitive story. Just goes to show you they have no talent left, or are too lazy to make the story interesting.
I had a different issue. My guy was nice but no-one was taking it. "I'm sure we can sort this out peacefully" was always met with blaster fire. How I'm I supposed to be a decent guy if no-one listens?
To be fair, a Sith is a Sith. They have a very long rap sheet of murder, mayhem and general not-niceness. I wouldn't blame people for not believing it. Although, it is creepily easy for Jedi to turn evil.
+TerminalMontage [Jeremey] I...can't actually tell if that's sarcastic or not. Anyway, just to clarify, I am overjoyed about every other aspect of the game I've seen so far, but how my character acts based on choices I make should not be something in question. Having to make a quicksave before every dialogue tree just to make sure I'm picking the right one will be a little annoying, at least until I get acquainted with what the writers are trying to convey with their 2-4 word snippets that could represent up to a paragraph's worth of text, but it's not something that will totally ruin the game or anything.
in ways it can help portray emotion through the narrative sequences I can see why they went with it and the time they put into the audio work I have high hopes it'll be satisfactory for sure changes can be good I was skeptical at first then I went back and played games of both dialogue types and the voiced protagonist did usually create more depth and emotion than without
Justin Frye I have no problems with the added voices, only the limited view of the text that may or may not be accurate enough for me to be sure I'm picking the one I want. (Though having less options to pick from also sucks, but I understand voice work would make having the typical amount of 4-6 choices difficult.) So, I know that until a "full text for dialogue choices" mod is made, I'll be quicksaving before every conversation, just to pick every single option and figure out which one I want, and that's the annoying/immersion breaking part.
MMO, Massively MULTIPLAYER online, you look at the amount of people you play with in STAR WARS THE OLD REPUBLIC and then come back and tell me it isn't an mmo, it may look different but just because it's different gameplay, look at how many people play it, single player games can't be played ONLINE with OTHER PEOPLE
Zeng Vuh I agree that it is an MMO. Single player game play cant be shared or altered by outside people. Whereas when I play my story arc in SWTOR my missions can be altered by other people. Example: when im in a cave and need to escape before it collapses but I have a bonus mission to kill 10 monsters. There are also others doing the same mission. So when we start to kill theses limited monsters everybody doesn't get equal opportunity to have the same number of monsters because of respawn times. So the fact that x amount of player can do the same mission at the same time can change game play outcomes in my experience.
Back then when you couldn't turn off dark side corruption and you couldn't see the outcome for a choice!! 😂😂 I hated it so much! I am glad that they fixed that by now! xD
Actually you could always see the outcome in regards to dark/lightside point even during beta. So it was pretty hard to get darkside points unintentionally (and really easy to fix by running a few low level flashpoints). Turning off visual corruption though came in about a month after launch. Not that any of your choices mattered anyways (only ones that did were being about to kill off companions during beta, but that was disabled when the game went live)
Well, maybe not, but only dummy don't take a look at (or on? not really sure here -.-" ) setting before he/she starts a game. ;) I had to set it only one time - for the first character I created. Then it was default, not like keyboard setting. That have to be specially set for every character.
I once captured a Jedi and selected the option to tell my master that I'd captured them (instead of killed them). The dialogue came out as "I've captured them for you to torture". What?!
@@SirJorb lol I remember that. Its the same with the Black Talon flashpoint, where if you spare the General (light side choice), he gets sent off to be tortured lol At that point Im just, "...shouldnt the light/dark choices be reversed, as killing him would be considered a mercy?" lol I mean, we KNOW hes going to be sent to Dromund Kaas to be tortured before we even get to him...because Sith Empire lol in what sane world would that be a light side choice? Its the same with the Sith warrior when facing the Jedi investigator on Balmorra. Light side choice is to _not_ kill her and instead have her arrested to be tortured later lol
Its hard for me to choose darkside stuff. In real life, I have a lot of integrity and it carries over in the game. Even though its all code I still feel like I'm hurting their feelings and all
Yeah I still do that in games like these. Even multiple playthoughs I can't bring myself to be "Evil". I can sometimes be slightly bad, but not completely.
Thank the lord i'm not the only one haha. I just can't be bad i always do good things in games. I even tried too be bad on a sith warrior but ended up being good lol.
I never had trouble figuring out Light side and Dark side options but I did get annoyed because some conversation options seem like they're sarcasm options when they're not and vice versa.
Dragon Age 2 had little symbols in the center of the wheel so you could tell the tone of the choice. Worked great. I can't understand for the life of me why they never did that again.
ikr, obviously this video is meant to be a joke about the game itself. it's not literally asking people "hey does this game suck or if not, can you give me tips?" you want to give people some tips, go to forums where they actually do need help smh.
Its almost 2018 and this is still accurate. I wish they would actually let you see what youre going to say, instead of just giving you the meaning of it, which can be easily misunderstood.
Yeah, sometimes you just want to say "Hello" and the game says "Say hello to your dead puppy in HELL" *cuts him in small pieces*. But the story is still very well done, but not for a MMO, the story is much more single player vibe, wich sucks as you cant really play the politics and stuff with other players, and the RP servers suck, cuse if I want to fully RP a game I should go play paper D&D.
That's because it's trying to be KOTOR 3 after all yet fails at it. You can't treat an MMORPG like a straightforward board RPG. It just doesn't work. The fatal flaw of every MMO is that its story just CAN'T end when it's done. MMO is a genre designed to make you keep playing. However, at some point, the story WILL get thin. Or have serious screwups. Just look at WoW. It had a killer story with the Warcraft Series and then WoW ruined quite a few aspects of it. Not everything, but a lot is meh at best. Seriously, the only flawless MMO imo would be a player-centered one where the players actively shape the story... provided it has the right kind of community and a well thought-through system that promotes PvP, PvE, exploring and community interaction alike.
***** "not one of those people are different from each other" Ok...Just so you can have a different point of view and see that you were just unlucky with the people you met online : I care about the story, I care about the gameplay, I care to explore, to evolve in a context I love. I like to create my character. I chose a roleplaying server to create her story and play it with other people who do the same. I chose my side, I chose if I'm on light or dark side. I chose my answers, I chose if I wanted to get involved with my partners to go further in the story. I like to get the good armors to be able to face difficult instances. Face those is to test my abilities and my skills. Getting the stuff is proving my skills and my patience too. I like playing with a squad of other players, each one playing his part, I appreciate teamwork and see what we can accomplish on difficult missions. And then, there's the competition. players versus players. You're in a war context in swtor, you push the story further and meet those who did their story on the other faction. You test what you learned on real intelligence and not IA anymore. It's another level of the play on mmo. You got so much to do and to try, you barely get bored. But yes, you end up having a need of something new, at some point. In the same way you finish other games. I admit some players are stupid with their obsession of getting the best armor. Some take it so seriously, their life seems to depend on it. But please. I played for a long time now, not all the mmo are full of those. Alot of players are like me. Don't paint everybody with the same brush. And it's not because you don't understand that way of playing, or aren't interested in it, that it's bad.
***** Ah, I wasn't so lucky. With it being an MMO, I could only possibly play it if I would have had someone. But the ones I would have played with either just weren't interested or have stopped at some point.
"Ok, what are our options this time? *I want to rape your soul.* *Carrot* *Here's a puppy!* "They can't mess THIS up..." "I want to rape your soul... BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU! :D *Gives puppies to everyone.*
+Edison Trent i pewfwe the guesswork.. i dont really like first reading the line and then hearing it , its like.. whats the point? sides.. makes my char personality feel abit more random :)
Mr.SilentProtagonist While annoying, that would be more of an issue with predicting the NPCs reaction. So far, the most annoying thing I've found with the dialogue system (after 106 hours) is that trying to get a companion's thoughts on a specific subject is nearly impossible unless you are already interacting with the group or it's after the Brotherhood arrive in force. For example, taking Piper, the person who talks about being wary of the Institute using Synths to replace people in her paper, down the Freedom Trail, I expected to have a few lines of dialogue along the lines of "Hey Blue, do you really think there are a group of people helping synths?" and after you find/talk to Des, "Wow, Blue, seems the Institute's been being horrible to everyone, even their own employees." or something. Instead, she's quiet the whole way there and none of the "your thoughts" things say anything about the Railroad. The only way I figured she liked what the Railroad was doing was the "Piper liked that" that pops up while joining the Railroad. I was also a little disappointed Piper didn't have some articles for changes caused by the PC in the different major groups, like the Minutemen, BoS, and the Railroad.
"While annoying, that would be more of an issue with predicting the NPCs reaction." Because I ''expect'' people to act positively when my MC threaten to rip off one of their body parts. It is bullshit.
Lame. 1. Enable the alignment icon near an answer in the settings. 2. Disable the corruption influence on an appearance in the outfit designer. Takes 1 minute.
Сергей Сергеевич Nerd, when the game came out this shit was impossible. The Shit would turn off when you enter zones or change worlds and sometimes from quest. The games "options" through the story would not exactly let you know the outcome. For an example sometimes you'd try to let someone live and you thought they would with the choice you made but nope...you say end up killing them just like this video. The whole game was not like this but a few was enough to draw players away from the game to where it had to go Free to play for a reason not to mention the lack of content. It sure as hell didn't go free to play for being the best mmo ever. It had issues. The game now though is much better(more content over the years).
ScarecrowJames Ah, but you could always exit the dialogue with the esc key and restart the conversation from scratch. I always do that when I want to see different outcomes.
* I liked this video. * I did not like this video. * Why would you stop playing? Me: Hmm... what would I say? (clicks 3rd option) Why would you stop playing a Star Wars game? I love this game! You are not getting a like from me! Me: What? No! I just wanted to ask a question not tell him that!
First, that's a pretty accurate depiction of SWTOR. I couldn't help but laugh at the hand gestures. I've always thought those were kind of exaggerated and funny looking. I love the game and been playing since beta, but yeah lol... it has its moments. However, from launch you could turn dark side corruption off cosmetically in the preferences menu. It was under Social. They just moved it to the appearance customization window. Also, you were always able to just hit escape to abort the conversations if you mess something up.
This is the funniest SWTOR parody ever! I literally laughed all the way after i realised it was NOT my skype ringing :D. Great job dude! Short and sweet. I don't even look at the dialog options' light or dark orientation, i just pick whatever i feel like in that moment. Sometimes i am surprised by the outcome and sometimes (rarely) i am satisfied that the character did exactly what i wanted. If you want a quirky character that has the funniest replies in the game then play Smuggler, the comedian of SWTOR. :)
This video accurately displays the main reason I quit the game a couple months after it released, I *hate* vague dialogue prompts in so-called RPGs. That and the rest of the game wasn't too great anyway, don't know why they just didn't let Obsidian make a single-player RPG (KotOR 3). :/
Too little too late. Both of those should've just been regular single-player RPGs. The whole variation between each class and class storyline is ruined by them all merging into one character 'the Outcast'. It's more of an insult, in my opinion, because it shows that the developers though 'eh, this'll be good enough'. No, it will not and is not good enough.
Caesar Belisarius You say that "Both of those should have been single-player RPGs but that's just your opinion. Therefor you should have said "In my opinion/I think that they should have been single-player RPGs.
Most amazing thing I found was a button called the "Esc" key. You could be in the middle of a dialogue option like in the video, hit it, and you could talk to them again with no consequence and re-pick your option. Better believe I abused that system.
That was pretty funny! My only complaint is that it wasn`t longer in length, you could have poked fun at several more swtor things, like standing in a line of 20 people waiting for enemies to respawn in a Daily, or notice when attacking giant creatures, it always shows same animation for attacking, so you end up attacking the giant creature`s toes, or the fact that on a server showing 1000 people, there are maybe 700 guilds, so each guild seems to have only one or two people in them? LOL
I still love this. It's short, simple, funny and my favorite part is how genuine the voice acting is. Plus, I even got that poster of Patrick Stewart made in real life for my room because of this little gem haha...
so true when it comes to speech dialogues. they sometimes never say what you expect them to say. and not to mention the look they give you when your evil.
I've seen this complaint a lot regarding Mass Effect, DA2 and SWTOR. I never thought it held water, you'd have to really not pay attention to be unaware how your character is going to act when you choose a dialogue option.
the options always show the physical reaction after the choice is made+ if you place your cursor on the choice, you can see a dark/light symbol describing what sort of choice it is
Doesn't the game flash red when you mouse over the dark side choice? With that, and the fact the dark side choices are pretty damn obvious, you would have to lack a great amount of mental capacity to have problems as described in the video.
OtakuTonTon Jokes are based on truth. That's what makes them funny. If the replies in SWTOR were actually unexpected, then it would be funny, but they're not.
Man, no one ever does combat math in games. (-.-) As long as your damage output is above 40 per hit -- which it should be if you're actually playing a melee character -- Critical Strike with dual-wielded sabers is much better damage than the double-bladed-saber Flurry setup everyone keeps recommending. Not that the game isn't pitifully easy with any build, but...
Found your video randomnly after digging through build specs and by God, hilarious. I felt like this when I first started out until I set the dark/light side convo settings on. Surprised this video doesnt have more views.
I like your way of starting a discussion about the game on this simple, accessible level even for not so experienced players. The conversation thing, though, is no problem for me.What I don't like is fighting, even if I have to fight a lot, while playing the game. I like running around in deserts, on snowy mountains, in woods and end up in interesting intrigues, and the conversations are sometimes quite stimulating ..
Gault: Are we really raiding a Ship full of Republic soldiers and Jedi? Me: *picks choice You've signed up for this.* "You will participate or I will hammer your face with blaster bolts"
lol the hand thing, the sunglasses rofl. i used to back out and do conversations over and over until i got maximum affection. now, me and my brother ignore our companions and simply choose to say what we want regardless of the affection gain/loss and dark/lightside gain. as a result, the game became more fun.
i dont really recognize any abnormal hand movements and you can see whether your dialog choices will have a light or dark impact... was this just the old version?
Word! :) And the new expansion pack (released today, bytheway) is incredibly detailed, the visuals are amazing, as well as the extended storyline. I don't have nearly enough time to play as much as I would like to, but this game will never get old. It has infinite potential to become increasingly better with time, as it has been doing since release.
Ok. In swtor trooper story on tatooine you talk to a Geonosian named Kyvax who is hired by the imperial colonel Gorik and you only say one thing to him, and no matter what you choose, you will end up fighting and killing him. I decided to expand a little bit. Kyvax: Intruders! What do you here? Speak! "Surrender now!" "Explain yourself" "Ready to die?" Kyvax: You really want to die? "I'm warning you!" "I have a better task for you." (Skip fight) "Well then." Kyvax: Elites! Swarm! Kill! *Fighting* Kyvax: No, how could I lose!? "You're going to prison." "I have no time left for you." "No matter." (Kill him) What would you choose?
Everyone turns that off, its not fun knowing if something makes you dark or light, I like the mystery, even though sometimes its really obvious (For example, Shock Them, Punch Them, Kill Them, etc)
Yeah, I hovered over it, but like I said I turn it off, it just aint fun knowing how this changes my dark/light side points, its in the settings under User Interface I believe
WoW is _the_ subscription MMO. It's the only one that can get away with it, and that's all there is to it. WoW has more than a decade's worth of research and polish put into it, and you're simply not gonna fuckin' compete with that no matter how hard you try. Let SWTOR, Aion, Rift, and I'm sure countless others, be a reminder; subscription based MMO's are dead, and WoW killed them. Marketing yourself as "the WoW killer" and taking on the juggernaut of hatred that is their fan base before you even launch is the surest way to make your game fail.
***** Because WoW tasted success, and everybody else thinks it will be as simple as copying them to get their own success. This shows pretty clearly how disconnected game makers are from the world of gaming, if you ask me.
+Shelton Burnadeski Worst part of that is : Everybody tried, no one ever came close. As much as we shit on WoW for what it's become, no one in the world managed to come close to make as a good a game.
The Esc button is your friend. I regularly choose all options to see what each does. It is scarily accurate about the dissonance between the words and the result though.
I still wonder if Jeremy and/or Brandon ever picked up SWTOR again... I picked it back up after about two years, and four years before that. It sucked me right back in!
this aged well
Winging It With Bleep u god damm right
Like a fine wine
Is that sarcasm
It did indeed
Love the sound quality on the OH WHAT THE HELL-guy, it's perfect
Remember: When you don't like what you said, press ESC and try again!
Exactly what I do
I do that just to see funny parts in conversation and to see what each choice does.
I did it today in dialogue with golem in Dragon Age Origins :)
thats just what I do
Need to be quick sometimes though. Like that bit with the sand demon on Tatooine as a Sith warrior, if you mess up (as a light side Sith) and cause the demon to attack you, youll have like 1 second to press the escape key before its too late.
I think the lesson to learn from this video is to never pick option 3.
+Drokash unless you a sith
That's actually true, mostly option 3 gives dark side points, does bad stuff, and makes your evil companions happier(increases affection) , so my light sith picks option one mostly
+John Davidson
"Light Sith"
...What?
+Edison Trent It's actually really cool, no matter what class or faction you can make lightside or darkside choices which change up the game a bit :P A light-side Sith is actually viable and interesting, rn I'm playing as a dark jedi
Edison Trent light sith is just the opposite of a sith(dark jedi), or a sith that does lightside stuff mostly
OMG the guy's face when he's corrupted by the Dark side XD
For me it was just:
*Playing a male Jedi Knight*
Female NPC: "Bla Bla Bla great danger Bla Bla im afraid"
Me: "Hm what should I say ..... oh boy an option to flirt with her ?"
I was the biggest lady killer in the galaxy
My first character was a Jedi Guardian, he was meant to be small... later in the game after many hours of being a lightside pansy I realised. Why the fuck is a 5ft tall man considered a tank? And my character looked about 14... so then I stopped playing at level 20 and went onto a normal sized imperial agent, surpassing level 20. The story has still gripped me. Too sad that I'm handicapped by my f2p status, it's like I have chains on my legs and EA offers the key for a price and keeps changing the lock every month so I have to keep paying for freedom on the game.
***** Typical for the developers to make such a trite and repetitive story. Just goes to show you they have no talent left, or are too lazy to make the story interesting.
***** you could just sub to the game instead of crying about how they let you play their product for free forever. Sub and its an far better exp. :)
Pretty much me in a nutshell
+Protostar Entertainment You offering to buy me a sub? I would do it myself, but you know, us people who actually work have it hard
I had a different issue. My guy was nice but no-one was taking it.
"I'm sure we can sort this out peacefully" was always met with blaster fire. How I'm I supposed to be a decent guy if no-one listens?
Do what I did: Be a force user and wave your hand in front of them. Make them say silly things too, while you're at it.
Ikr? The only time someone actually surrendered was on a trooper mission. All though thanks to the imps being their it still ended in gun fire
To be fair, a Sith is a Sith. They have a very long rap sheet of murder, mayhem and general not-niceness. I wouldn't blame people for not believing it. Although, it is creepily easy for Jedi to turn evil.
Dylan Staats
Especially seeing as they literally have to be stoic bitches, yeah, kinda.
Grey Jedi FTW.
***** Before you do anything, learn how to spell.
These conversation wheel scenarios are what scare me about Fallout 4's dialogue changes.
+TerminalMontage [Jeremey]
I...can't actually tell if that's sarcastic or not.
Anyway, just to clarify, I am overjoyed about every other aspect of the game I've seen so far, but how my character acts based on choices I make should not be something in question.
Having to make a quicksave before every dialogue tree just to make sure I'm picking the right one will be a little annoying, at least until I get acquainted with what the writers are trying to convey with their 2-4 word snippets that could represent up to a paragraph's worth of text, but it's not something that will totally ruin the game or anything.
TerminalMontage [Jeremey]
Meh, I'm sure it won't be a big deal or anything. ;)
in ways it can help portray emotion through the narrative sequences I can see why they went with it and the time they put into the audio work I have high hopes it'll be satisfactory for sure changes can be good I was skeptical at first then I went back and played games of both dialogue types and the voiced protagonist did usually create more depth and emotion than without
Justin Frye I have no problems with the added voices, only the limited view of the text that may or may not be accurate enough for me to be sure I'm picking the one I want. (Though having less options to pick from also sucks, but I understand voice work would make having the typical amount of 4-6 choices difficult.)
So, I know that until a "full text for dialogue choices" mod is made, I'll be quicksaving before every conversation, just to pick every single option and figure out which one I want, and that's the annoying/immersion breaking part.
+Edison Trent I like fallout 4's dialogue wheel for one.
I don't like MMOs but SWTOR was the ONLY one who got me to stay
Thats because its a single player game. Good for you.
Zeng Vuh do you even know what MMO means??
I sure do, buddy. This isn't one.
MMO, Massively MULTIPLAYER online, you look at the amount of people you play with in STAR WARS THE OLD REPUBLIC and then come back and tell me it isn't an mmo, it may look different but just because it's different gameplay, look at how many people play it, single player games can't be played ONLINE with OTHER PEOPLE
Zeng Vuh I agree that it is an MMO. Single player game play cant be shared or altered by outside people. Whereas when I play my story arc in SWTOR my missions can be altered by other people. Example: when im in a cave and need to escape before it collapses but I have a bonus mission to kill 10 monsters. There are also others doing the same mission. So when we start to kill theses limited monsters everybody doesn't get equal opportunity to have the same number of monsters because of respawn times. So the fact that x amount of player can do the same mission at the same time can change game play outcomes in my experience.
Back then when you couldn't turn off dark side corruption and you couldn't see the outcome for a choice!! 😂😂 I hated it so much! I am glad that they fixed that by now! xD
Actually you could always see the outcome in regards to dark/lightside point even during beta. So it was pretty hard to get darkside points unintentionally (and really easy to fix by running a few low level flashpoints). Turning off visual corruption though came in about a month after launch. Not that any of your choices mattered anyways (only ones that did were being about to kill off companions during beta, but that was disabled when the game went live)
Isn't the outcome option turned off by default tho? Pretty sure I have to turn it on every time I make a new character.
No, it's not. Try to turn it on in main menu, before you select char.
Takkia That's still not the default settings.
Well, maybe not, but only dummy don't take a look at (or on? not really sure here -.-" ) setting before he/she starts a game. ;)
I had to set it only one time - for the first character I created. Then it was default, not like keyboard setting. That have to be specially set for every character.
I finally found it back!
You have no idea how long I was trying to find this again..... it's so amazing, I was afraid it'd been taken down.
I concur. Just stumbled on it again. Funny as ever !
zachanikwano Same.
Option: OK
What he actually says: I WILL FEAST ON THEIR HEARTS!
Me: WHAT!?
I once captured a Jedi and selected the option to tell my master that I'd captured them (instead of killed them). The dialogue came out as "I've captured them for you to torture". What?!
@@SirJorb
lol I remember that. Its the same with the Black Talon flashpoint, where if you spare the General (light side choice), he gets sent off to be tortured lol At that point Im just, "...shouldnt the light/dark choices be reversed, as killing him would be considered a mercy?" lol I mean, we KNOW hes going to be sent to Dromund Kaas to be tortured before we even get to him...because Sith Empire lol in what sane world would that be a light side choice? Its the same with the Sith warrior when facing the Jedi investigator on Balmorra. Light side choice is to _not_ kill her and instead have her arrested to be tortured later lol
Its hard for me to choose darkside stuff. In real life, I have a lot of integrity and it carries over in the game. Even though its all code I still feel like I'm hurting their feelings and all
I think I was the only one that suffer that kind of thing xD
Yeah I still do that in games like these. Even multiple playthoughs I can't bring myself to be "Evil". I can sometimes be slightly bad, but not completely.
Thank the lord i'm not the only one haha. I just can't be bad i always do good things in games. I even tried too be bad on a sith warrior but ended up being good lol.
Al Capone Yes, i when i try to be bad I'm so terrible at it that my character just tuns out to be really inconsistent and crazy.
Ha seems like I'm not the only one. Most people I know just go outright full psycho mode in games, they say it's more fun to them.
I never had trouble figuring out Light side and Dark side options but I did get annoyed because some conversation options seem like they're sarcasm options when they're not and vice versa.
well now they just tell you what it is. how much you gain is different
Dragon Age 2 had little symbols in the center of the wheel so you could tell the tone of the choice. Worked great. I can't understand for the life of me why they never did that again.
people are still trying to give advice about a game the animator played 4 years ago
Its not advice, its critiques.
It still has the same issues with the initial main story quests. Except for the creepy sith eyes.
The game has been updated. This animation has not.
ikr, obviously this video is meant to be a joke about the game itself. it's not literally asking people "hey does this game suck or if not, can you give me tips?"
you want to give people some tips, go to forums where they actually do need help smh.
Alestiiidae [no_last]
Idiot
Its almost 2018 and this is still accurate. I wish they would actually let you see what youre going to say, instead of just giving you the meaning of it, which can be easily misunderstood.
IKR
Yeah, sometimes you just want to say "Hello" and the game says "Say hello to your dead puppy in HELL" *cuts him in small pieces*.
But the story is still very well done, but not for a MMO, the story is much more single player vibe, wich sucks as you cant really play the politics and stuff with other players, and the RP servers suck, cuse if I want to fully RP a game I should go play paper D&D.
That's because it's trying to be KOTOR 3 after all yet fails at it. You can't treat an MMORPG like a straightforward board RPG. It just doesn't work.
The fatal flaw of every MMO is that its story just CAN'T end when it's done. MMO is a genre designed to make you keep playing. However, at some point, the story WILL get thin. Or have serious screwups.
Just look at WoW. It had a killer story with the Warcraft Series and then WoW ruined quite a few aspects of it. Not everything, but a lot is meh at best.
Seriously, the only flawless MMO imo would be a player-centered one where the players actively shape the story... provided it has the right kind of community and a well thought-through system that promotes PvP, PvE, exploring and community interaction alike.
Proof that they should have just made KoTOR 3 and did a Dragon Age-esque origins system.
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"not one of those people are different from each other"
Ok...Just so you can have a different point of view and see that you were just unlucky with the people you met online :
I care about the story, I care about the gameplay, I care to explore, to evolve in a context I love. I like to create my character. I chose a roleplaying server to create her story and play it with other people who do the same. I chose my side, I chose if I'm on light or dark side. I chose my answers, I chose if I wanted to get involved with my partners to go further in the story.
I like to get the good armors to be able to face difficult instances. Face those is to test my abilities and my skills. Getting the stuff is proving my skills and my patience too. I like playing with a squad of other players, each one playing his part, I appreciate teamwork and see what we can accomplish on difficult missions.
And then, there's the competition. players versus players. You're in a war context in swtor, you push the story further and meet those who did their story on the other faction. You test what you learned on real intelligence and not IA anymore. It's another level of the play on mmo.
You got so much to do and to try, you barely get bored. But yes, you end up having a need of something new, at some point. In the same way you finish other games.
I admit some players are stupid with their obsession of getting the best armor. Some take it so seriously, their life seems to depend on it. But please. I played for a long time now, not all the mmo are full of those. Alot of players are like me. Don't paint everybody with the same brush. And it's not because you don't understand that way of playing, or aren't interested in it, that it's bad.
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Ah, I wasn't so lucky. With it being an MMO, I could only possibly play it if I would have had someone. But the ones I would have played with either just weren't interested or have stopped at some point.
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Haha, with me, it's the opposite. It's why I love Souls as much as I do.
"Ok, what are our options this time?
*I want to rape your soul.*
*Carrot*
*Here's a puppy!*
"They can't mess THIS up..."
"I want to rape your soul... BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU! :D
*Gives puppies to everyone.*
HAHA you nailed the hand movements. No one does that in real life :D
This is what is going to happen to Fallout 4. I hope that you like playing telephone with your own choices.
+Mr.SilentProtagonist Hopefully we'll get some dialogue mods pretty quick that replace the choices in the text with the actual dialogue.
+Edison Trent i pewfwe the guesswork.. i dont really like first reading the line and then hearing it , its like.. whats the point? sides.. makes my char personality feel abit more random :)
One option labeled "sarcasm" in Fallout 4 ends up with MC trying to start a fight the person.
Mr.SilentProtagonist
While annoying, that would be more of an issue with predicting the NPCs reaction.
So far, the most annoying thing I've found with the dialogue system (after 106 hours) is that trying to get a companion's thoughts on a specific subject is nearly impossible unless you are already interacting with the group or it's after the Brotherhood arrive in force.
For example, taking Piper, the person who talks about being wary of the Institute using Synths to replace people in her paper, down the Freedom Trail, I expected to have a few lines of dialogue along the lines of "Hey Blue, do you really think there are a group of people helping synths?" and after you find/talk to Des, "Wow, Blue, seems the Institute's been being horrible to everyone, even their own employees." or something.
Instead, she's quiet the whole way there and none of the "your thoughts" things say anything about the Railroad. The only way I figured she liked what the Railroad was doing was the "Piper liked that" that pops up while joining the Railroad. I was also a little disappointed Piper didn't have some articles for changes caused by the PC in the different major groups, like the Minutemen, BoS, and the Railroad.
"While annoying, that would be more of an issue with predicting the NPCs reaction."
Because I ''expect'' people to act positively when my MC threaten to rip off one of their body parts. It is bullshit.
This was a TerminalMontage video?? This whole time??? I watched this dozens of times when it came out and just looked it up again, now.
Anyone else check their skype at the beginning?
I did lol
Me too
It was so loud. ;_;
Hey everyone Esau doesn't have Skype. Just thought everyone should know :P
I did to
Me and my friend made female avatars and got people to help us through everything.
That shit always seems to work for some reason lol
Jarred Nemorin yep, lonely/horny teens are too gullible!
+ndaemon1718 and then there's the creeps that send you obnoxious tells, or just flat out harass you.
Andrew B. sure but you get that irl alot too as a female. so its nothing new :)
+ndaemon1718 Oh, sure, but that's not something guys who are making female characters in an mmo for special treatment tend to think of. :)
Lame.
1. Enable the alignment icon near an answer in the settings.
2. Disable the corruption influence on an appearance in the outfit designer.
Takes 1 minute.
Сергей Сергеевич Nerd, when the game came out this shit was impossible. The Shit would turn off when you enter zones or change worlds and sometimes from quest. The games "options" through the story would not exactly let you know the outcome. For an example sometimes you'd try to let someone live and you thought they would with the choice you made but nope...you say end up killing them just like this video. The whole game was not like this but a few was enough to draw players away from the game to where it had to go Free to play for a reason not to mention the lack of content. It sure as hell didn't go free to play for being the best mmo ever. It had issues. The game now though is much better(more content over the years).
ScarecrowJames Ah, but you could always exit the dialogue with the esc key and restart the conversation from scratch. I always do that when I want to see different outcomes.
ScarecrowJames Wait, if he's a nerd for knowing that - then what does it make you for relaying that wall of text?
lmQuantum
Terminal Montage called him a nerd so I was being lamely humorous.
ScarecrowJames Yeah I see that now, I didn't earlier. It looked like you were calling him a nerd outright.
Might just be me but I think this highlights the importance of the "Show Alignment Gain" setting
* I liked this video.
* I did not like this video.
* Why would you stop playing?
Me: Hmm... what would I say?
(clicks 3rd option)
Why would you stop playing a Star Wars game? I love this game! You are not getting a like from me!
Me: What? No! I just wanted to ask a question not tell him that!
MY FAVORITE LINE IS: "Man I don't even have a helmet to cover it up" Everytime he says it ill copy him xD
ikr, he sounds so sad about it too lmao new favorite video
For real tho! This guy did a GREAT job!
SkyCrafter 😂😂😂 yas
Word from the wise: If your gonna do a morality system, don't make your choices f**king vague.
+RasputinTheGamer Well as long as you use lube and protection.
This video is old but I still love it
First, that's a pretty accurate depiction of SWTOR. I couldn't help but laugh at the hand gestures. I've always thought those were kind of exaggerated and funny looking. I love the game and been playing since beta, but yeah lol... it has its moments. However, from launch you could turn dark side corruption off cosmetically in the preferences menu. It was under Social. They just moved it to the appearance customization window. Also, you were always able to just hit escape to abort the conversations if you mess something up.
This is the funniest SWTOR parody ever! I literally laughed all the way after i realised it was NOT my skype ringing :D.
Great job dude! Short and sweet.
I don't even look at the dialog options' light or dark orientation, i just pick whatever i feel like in that moment. Sometimes i am surprised by the outcome and sometimes (rarely) i am satisfied that the character did exactly what i wanted.
If you want a quirky character that has the funniest replies in the game then play Smuggler, the comedian of SWTOR. :)
lol the Smuggler and the Bounty Hunters have the best lines
autumrose1 Yeah right!
Youre 1 of my ppl!
Dangerosu Smuggler has THE best lines!
This video accurately displays the main reason I quit the game a couple months after it released, I *hate* vague dialogue prompts in so-called RPGs. That and the rest of the game wasn't too great anyway, don't know why they just didn't let Obsidian make a single-player RPG (KotOR 3). :/
KOTFE and KOTET
Too little too late. Both of those should've just been regular single-player RPGs. The whole variation between each class and class storyline is ruined by them all merging into one character 'the Outcast'. It's more of an insult, in my opinion, because it shows that the developers though 'eh, this'll be good enough'. No, it will not and is not good enough.
Caesar Belisarius (In your opinion)
Well, yeah. Obviously. Whose else would it be?
Caesar Belisarius You say that "Both of those should have been single-player RPGs but that's just your opinion. Therefor you should have said "In my opinion/I think that they should have been single-player RPGs.
Such a timeless classic
Holy shit you STILL read comments on five year old videos
How did you even find this?
Why is youtube only now recommending this 😂😂
LOL this actually happened to me on my jedi sentinel :)
What option was it?
It's not going to be long until TH-cam's algorithm recommends me "How I got Through Pong" somehow
Most amazing thing I found was a button called the "Esc" key. You could be in the middle of a dialogue option like in the video, hit it, and you could talk to them again with no consequence and re-pick your option. Better believe I abused that system.
The deal with it glasses at 0:46. +1
So much nostalgia... This video feels like something I'd find on Albino Black Sheep all those years back... damn.. Keep it up haha
Came back to this video after playing Baldur’s Gate 3 with my friend and everything in this is still accurate
That portrait of Picard still cracks me up to this day lol
This is such a classic
it only says "You're relieved (kill him)" How did you accidentally choose that?
No Joke years ago when I was younger this was how I found your channel. Cool to see how far you have come. Good Job.
That was pretty funny! My only complaint is that it wasn`t longer in length, you could
have poked fun at several more swtor things, like standing in a line of 20 people waiting
for enemies to respawn in a Daily, or notice when attacking giant creatures, it always shows same animation for attacking, so you end up attacking the giant creature`s toes, or the fact that on a server showing 1000 people, there are maybe 700 guilds, so each guild seems to have only one or two people in them? LOL
As a relatively new SWTOR player, this is hilarious and relatable.
Lol I love swtor. This is a great video xD
8 and a half years and still funny as he'll. Woulnt mind a sequel.
I miss this game. Sadly my PC passed away and I ended up getting a Mac thinking it would play SWtOR. Biggest mistake ever.
Assassino275 Mac has always been shit~
Rip PC
***** Lesson learned. lol
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+Assassino275 Ha, MAC sucks when it comes to games.
dude more of this please. funniest thing I've seen in a while
this is so accurate it's insane
I still love this. It's short, simple, funny and my favorite part is how genuine the voice acting is. Plus, I even got that poster of Patrick Stewart made in real life for my room because of this little gem haha...
0:53 That _dark side corruption_ :D
I love that you still read comments on this video! You're amazing
so true when it comes to speech dialogues. they sometimes never say what you expect them to say. and not to mention the look they give you when your evil.
As SWTOR player, I agree
It's hilarious that I still play SWTOR and am so relieved they added the "show/don't show dark side corruption" button 😂
im a big fan of swtor and i find this hilarious
I've seen this complaint a lot regarding Mass Effect, DA2 and SWTOR. I never thought it held water, you'd have to really not pay attention to be unaware how your character is going to act when you choose a dialogue option.
Lol the hand movement always gets me
Still one of your best videos to this day.
Edit: Hey thanks for the heart!
This is so funny I come back to it every few months😂
y'all should make more like these!
XD HIS FACE! He looks like freaking Salad fingers
the options always show the physical reaction after the choice is made+ if you place your cursor on the choice, you can see a dark/light symbol describing what sort of choice it is
Doesn't the game flash red when you mouse over the dark side choice? With that, and the fact the dark side choices are pretty damn obvious, you would have to lack a great amount of mental capacity to have problems as described in the video.
There's an option to turn alignment on so you can see what the choices give you, dark or light.
I thought it was default. I've always seen it.
There's also an option to toggle on/off the dark side corruption so the ugly face should not be an issue.
Its a joke ...... the video man its a joke
OtakuTonTon Jokes are based on truth. That's what makes them funny. If the replies in SWTOR were actually unexpected, then it would be funny, but they're not.
NPC: Spare change Sir?
Option: Here, take this
Outcome: here, take this grenade and swallow it
I cried with laughter at 0:55 when the dramatic music kicked in as the camera zoomed in on his perfectly terrifying face
How I got through KOTOR: Flurry, flurry, flurry, stun, heal, force kill, repeat.
KOTOR*
Where is your flurry now?
Ah, shit! Better edit that comment.
Nicholas Gonzalez
Already ate it.
Man, no one ever does combat math in games. (-.-) As long as your damage output is above 40 per hit -- which it should be if you're actually playing a melee character -- Critical Strike with dual-wielded sabers is much better damage than the double-bladed-saber Flurry setup everyone keeps recommending.
Not that the game isn't pitifully easy with any build, but...
MunitionsFrenzy I dual wielded sabers in KOTOR. I don't even remember using a blaster after I became a Jedi.
Found your video randomnly after digging through build specs and by God, hilarious. I felt like this when I first started out until I set the dark/light side convo settings on. Surprised this video doesnt have more views.
I come back looking for this and I didn't even realise that Terminal did this. Wow.
I love this. Make more, its funny.
I like your way of starting a discussion about the game on this simple, accessible level even for not so experienced players. The conversation thing, though, is no problem for me.What I don't like is fighting, even if I have to fight a lot, while playing the game. I like running around in deserts, on snowy mountains, in woods and end up in interesting intrigues, and the conversations are sometimes quite stimulating ..
Gault: Are we really raiding a Ship full of Republic soldiers and Jedi?
Me: *picks choice You've signed up for this.* "You will participate or I will hammer your face with blaster bolts"
0:55 when you cheat on a test
This guys is ahead of his time, There's so many video like this nowadays
Short Version: They didn't.
So you stopped after playing the Esseles?
Congrats.
Black Talon*
ahhh either way, the first Flashpoint.
I just had the wrong allegiance
lol the hand thing, the sunglasses rofl. i used to back out and do conversations over and over until i got maximum affection. now, me and my brother ignore our companions and simply choose to say what we want regardless of the affection gain/loss and dark/lightside gain. as a result, the game became more fun.
i dont really recognize any abnormal hand movements and you can see whether your dialog choices will have a light or dark impact... was this just the old version?
Chocolate Storm look at the date the video was released
bob "was this just the old version?"-me in my comment
i guess it was?
Word! :) And the new expansion pack (released today, bytheway) is incredibly detailed, the visuals are amazing, as well as the extended storyline. I don't have nearly enough time to play as much as I would like to, but this game will never get old. It has infinite potential to become increasingly better with time, as it has been doing since release.
Ok. In swtor trooper story on tatooine you talk to a Geonosian named Kyvax who is hired by the imperial colonel Gorik and you only say one thing to him, and no matter what you choose, you will end up fighting and killing him. I decided to expand a little bit.
Kyvax: Intruders! What do you here? Speak!
"Surrender now!"
"Explain yourself"
"Ready to die?"
Kyvax: You really want to die?
"I'm warning you!"
"I have a better task for you." (Skip fight)
"Well then."
Kyvax: Elites! Swarm! Kill!
*Fighting*
Kyvax: No, how could I lose!?
"You're going to prison."
"I have no time left for you."
"No matter." (Kill him)
What would you choose?
Very true.
Things changed quite a bit; but still, someof the choices you make end up different from what you expect just by reading the options.
Who else got super excited when they heard the skype thing, then realized it was the video and that no one ever calls you because you have no friends.
I actually love this. The best part is these are actual scenes from the game!! xD
That's why I don't like choosing a shorten versen of your character's dialogue it gets easyly misinterpreted. Like with me.
Aged like fine wine! I just returned to SWTOR and... this has been my experience with an Imperial character xD
omg that quest were ur on the ship and the jedi attack it and u go on theres and kill that one pink twelek bring back so many memories
hahaha these guys obviously did not know you could just hit escape and redo the convo.....poor bastards...I just discovered that a few weeks ago
It's 2018 and I just found this. I couldn't stop laughing. "OMG my guy is so ugly!" Good animations here. :D
Well, maybe you should move your fucking cursor to the option you want to check to see what "karma" you will get.
Damn... So extremly entertaining xD Amazing animation =)
lol you can see the light side or darkside options this is because they were too stupid lol
Everyone turns that off, its not fun knowing if something makes you dark or light, I like the mystery, even though sometimes its really obvious (For example, Shock Them, Punch Them, Kill Them, etc)
Also this was made BEFORE you could turn that on, so it was always a nice game of Force Roulette
+The DoubleC hmm i played day one didnt see that it wasn't there. you are hovering over it with a mouse right??
Yeah, I hovered over it, but like I said I turn it off, it just aint fun knowing how this changes my dark/light side points, its in the settings under User Interface I believe
I didn't even know there is an option to turn it off, sweet!
Damn, looking at newer videos, its insane how much your content has changed
WoW is _the_ subscription MMO. It's the only one that can get away with it, and that's all there is to it. WoW has more than a decade's worth of research and polish put into it, and you're simply not gonna fuckin' compete with that no matter how hard you try.
Let SWTOR, Aion, Rift, and I'm sure countless others, be a reminder; subscription based MMO's are dead, and WoW killed them. Marketing yourself as "the WoW killer" and taking on the juggernaut of hatred that is their fan base before you even launch is the surest way to make your game fail.
+Shelton Burnadeski Why can't all MMOs get along? They need to stop focusing on trying to "out-WoW" WoW already and do their own thing...
***** Because WoW tasted success, and everybody else thinks it will be as simple as copying them to get their own success. This shows pretty clearly how disconnected game makers are from the world of gaming, if you ask me.
+Shelton Burnadeski yeah tho i still liked swtor aswell. for its own sake.. tho i played wow at thesame time so.. who knows.
+Shelton Burnadeski Worst part of that is : Everybody tried, no one ever came close. As much as we shit on WoW for what it's become, no one in the world managed to come close to make as a good a game.
+Shelton Burnadeski Comment's ancient, still, all hail Shelton, Virgin King of 2016. **golfapplauds*
The Skype ringtone though. Nostalgia 😌
I actually only started playing this game a week and a half ago and... I am loving it so much! Seriously it's such a fun game haha.
LOL this was funny
The Esc button is your friend. I regularly choose all options to see what each does. It is scarily accurate about the dissonance between the words and the result though.
lol i looked at mah skype xD
I still wonder if Jeremy and/or Brandon ever picked up SWTOR again...
I picked it back up after about two years, and four years before that. It sucked me right back in!
laughed my balls of.. funny vid
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weird comment...
***** wtf