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I've read, that Titanic had the blue British Flag, because she was a royal mail ship and royal mail ships also had the blue flag. So the RMS is the main reason for the colour of the flag and not, if the Officers served at the royal navy 🙈
Great feature on Titanic's flags Mike! Flags are a hobby of mine and a fascinating study when you get into it. You hit all the high points. In case anyone's wondering about the white border around the Union Jack of the pilot flag (also known as a jack, flown from a ship's bow while in port but not at other times) an unmodified Union Jack (properly known as the Union Flag) is restricted to use by the Royal Navy, no other vessels are allowed to fly (or "wear") it. However on land the Union Flag is the national flag of the UK and anyone can fly it.
Very interesting and enjoyable video. I remember a flag moment in the book Raise the Titanic. Just as the stern is slipping under, a crew member (played by Alec Guinness in the horrible movie) instinctively grabs onto the White Star flag on the stern (factual error). He get pulled under but eventually the flag is freed and he comes to the surface and is rescued. Years later he gives the flag to the crew who would raise the Titanic so they could return the flag to the ship. Yes, very corny and silly, but as a kid I gobbled it up.
If I remember right, Dirk Pitt (the hero of Clive Cussler's novels in those days)reties it back on the mainmast (which has been cut to a height of about 8 feet during the salvage operations). The crew member is young officer John Bigelow, a "stand-in" for Lightoller, who grabs the burgee as the mainmast is going under (he dives off the ship at the very last second after being forced to lead Joshua Hays Brewster down to the "vault" on G-Deck and racing to escape the ship as it plunges) and gives it to Pitt when he tells him about the raising operation, so that it can be returned to the place it belongs. It should be noted that the book was written some years before the wreck was found, so in both book and movie the ship is intact.
Learned something interesting from this - I always believed the 'standard' flags like the burgee and Blue\Red Ensign were flown at ALL times, not hauled down at nightfall. I actually HAVE the (alleged) White Star burgee from the 3rd BRITTANIC (the GEORGIC's sister ship). It's a big'un (I never measured it), and has a big red stain on the star. It's made of a rough material (perhaps burlap, or some rough cloth?).
How about a video on Titanic's - and other ships involved - wireless sets ? As technical as you like, how it worked, frequency, range etc - I'd certainly be interested !
My step father is a Master Mariner, and was in the Merchant Navy for 50 years, and for his retirement he bought a 60ft motor yacht. On the few occasions that I sailed with him he flew the Red Ensign alongside the Welsh flag (we mostly sailed around my then home city of Swansea). I always assumed that the Welsh flag was for my mother, who is Welsh, but I now realise that it was because we were sailing in Welsh waters.
As I recall you don't fly flags at night on shore unless they are lit by a bright light. I wonder if this is the case for the Titanic not hosting any flags at night.
Possibly, however it may have been more to save wear and tear on the flags. No point flying the flags at night if there's no-one to see them. Anyway, it's not obligatory to fly the national ensign all the time when at sea. The ensign DOES have to be flown when approaching other ships or harbors.
I put the Canadian Red Ensign on my Lego Titanic and some my other model ships because they are permanently “docked” here in Canada, depending on the era the ship is from it is a different Canadian flag of course.
Great video Mike, once again covering a topic no one has heard of, much to our delight. Please cover more of these unknown (ish) topics as they are extremely fascinating.
I don't know why but the "here I am for scale" part really got a laugh out of me, I love the idea of using yourself for scale. Forget bananas for scale, we need you for scale instead!
The ferry to one of the five Dutch islands has the same design going forward as going back. This is very useful, as the ships don't have to be turned around when coming in to dock, and the cars can just drive on and off with no issue. But it leaves one problem: no good place to fly the Dutch flag. So the designer of the ship wanted to avoid it looking like a barge - his words - and on the bridgehouse in the middle of the ship, it has a system to raise and lower flags when docked, so that the Dutch flag is always flying towards the stern. This is pure vanity, of course. It is an extremely complicated and expensive solution to a problem that doesn't really exist, but at the same time, it is kinda cool.
Thank you for this video and all your others. They’re so detailed and informative. My son is five and is fascinated by the Titanic and her sister ships as well as some of the other old ocean liners. We spend a lot of time watching your videos and learning all about the ships.
I forgot to say that when we were in Hong Kong for a port visit we were there during a British holiday. I don't remember which one. We dressed the ship and flew the British Navy Ensign, similar to the red and blue ones you described but with a white field. As I recall it was flown from the main mast while the US flags occupied their traditional places at the bow and stern.
Thank you for this!! I had a few people arguing with me in a Titanic group on FB why I put the American flag on the forward mast of my Trumpeter model and I got so tired of explaining to people why haha!!!
As a former U. S. Navy petty officer I remember some of the rules about flags, most of which you covered. On U.S. Navy ships in port the U. S. Flay, the Ensign is flown on the stern. On the bow is flown the jack. In my time that was the blue field of stars on the US Flag. I believe at least some ships fly the "Don't Tread on Me" flag with a snake dating from the Revolutionary War. When at sea the Ensign is flown from a mast, usually near the signal bridge. The signal flags showing the ship's call sign were always flown when under weigh in port, entering and leaving. This was flown from one of several halyards handled at the signal bridge. Other flags would be flown to denote the presence of a pilot and other operations such as refueling and taking on ammunition. Not much different from your description of British merchant ship practices.
The "Don't Tread On Me" flag was revived during the Bicentennial years of 1975-1976. I know, I was THERE!. (USMC) Post-1976 the 50-star jack was reinstated. However, as I understand it the "Don't Tread On Me" jack was revived after 9/11/2001 when the War on Terror began. It was in use until 2019 when the 50-star jack was reinstated. By the way, the 50-star jack is properly called the Union Jack! You know, John Paul Jones didn't like the rattlesnake flag, it gave him the creeps! Personally I LIKE it! Much better than the 50-star jack, very dramatic and historic. If it was up to me I'd make it permanent.
The Titanic's First officer, William McMaster Murdoch's 3x great aunt was Mary Ann Paul, (John Paul Jones' older sister). Mark Louden (brother of William's 2 x great-grandmother, Ann Louden) married Mary Ann Paul at Kirkbean, Scotland in 1777, just before John Paul Jones commanded the Ranger.
The White Ensign of the RN, the Red Ensign of the merchant service, and the Blue Ensign were all originally RN ensigns, denoting seniority within a flag rank, and which mast it flew on determined the flag officer's rank. (mizzen for rear adm, fore for vice and main for Adm.) Blue-red-white was the seniority order of the ensigns. All ships assigned to that ADM would fly that color ensign on the stern.
During Olympic’s military service, would she have still been flying the red ensign or would she have received a different flag to denote armed merchant service?
That's a good question, and it's an "It depends" situation. If Olympic was being operated by Royal Navy personnel and taken into service as "HMS Olympic" it would have flown the Royal Navy's White Ensign. If chartered by the British government but manned by a White Star crew it would have flown a Blue Ensign. Operated as a commercial ship only it would have flown a Red Ensign unless as Mike stated it carried a number of RN reservists as part of the crew, then it would have rated a Blue Ensign.
I see it more as an opportunity to discuss standard practices which apply to all other ships through a Titanic lens! So if you know how it worked on Titanic - you know how it worked on Mauretania for example :)
Interesting! I remember seeing the US flag on a model of _Titanic_ once and assuming it was there because IMM was an American-owned company (and thinking how that must have galled the British crew).
i remember seeing a photo of olympic or titanic that had a BUNCH of flags flying across the top cable mast of hte ship from the front mast to the stern. do you recall what that was for?
Sounds like you saw a photo where either one "dressed ship." Sometimes dressing ship is done for national holidays, or when a ship makes it's first visit to a port as kind of a salute and "How do you do?" to that particular port. Dressing ship is only done in port, never at sea. I don't know about commercial ships but the US Navy and Royal Navy have a particular sequence for the signal flags when dressing ship. It dosn't spell out any message though.
I was wondering if _Titanic_ ever actually flew the Pilot jack, as it seemed like an odd thing for the Lego Titanic to include it but not the White Star Flag (I assume that has something to do with Cunard still holding trademarks for the White Star.)
Aww. Poor old Alec Guinness took the wrong flag. (Raise the Titanic(1980), touching scene where he pulls out a White Star pennant-style flag, not the Blue Ensign).
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Neat! Thanks for the information. I don't know what I'll use it for in my everyday inland life, but any day you learn something new is a good day. You used yourself for scale on these six-feet-tall flags...are you about 6'5 then, or are Australian feet measurements different than American ones?
Great video, I always learn so much when I watch your videos. So if the flags were 6 feet tall the photos of you leaning against the flags indicate that you are taller than 6 feet.
Wow I didn't know about the different verients of flags and their meaning I mostly thought they were for decorations or occasion propose good to know..
Now I I'm curious. The day she was dressed in Southampton, what were all the flags? If they were signal flags, what did they spell out? How were they raised and lowered, especially the ones over the funnel?
That was great Mike. I like how you are always dressed in a tie and vest. Distinguished. I also never thought you that tall. But hard to see behind a microphone.
If the flag lockers are intact and undamamged the flags would still be in there, however it's problematic just what's left of them. British flags of the time were made of wool which is quite durable but consdering the VERY hostile environment two-and-a-half miles down I wouldn't be optimistic.
The 4 letter/flag call sign hvmp is . Like the TS Empire State VI is KKFW and the P&Os second Oriana was ZCDU9 the same as he predecessor. So it’s still used in radio communication as well, at least in the colonies.
2:14 is our friend Mike Brady really about 6 and a half feet tall? Guess it's hard to say, now that I'm thinking about it I don't think I've ever actually seen him standing up.
In future, near Iceberg area night journeys should be avoided. During nights without lights it is not visible so why lighted big boards are fitted on both sides with " HELP " so that helping ships can see and save. Thanks.
An excellent video! I like flags a lot, they fascinate me, so it's great to hear about Titanic's! I knew she had signal flags, of course, but all the others were news to me. I always wondered what the point of that line connecting the mast and the first funnel was. I do have a question: did Titanic, and, in general, other ships, only carry one set of signal flags? I know they can be used as letters, but constricting yourself to only one letter is a bit too restrictive, I would think.
While each signal flag corresponds to one letter or number combinations of the same are used to form a "shorthand" message or signal. If a shorthand version isn't in the signal book the flags can be used to spell out a complete message. Single signal flags when flown by themselves also have a shorthand message such as "I am turning to port/starbord" or "I need assitance" and so on.
Very informative, however may I respectfully point out that the lines described as 'Haliyards' are in fact halyards and that the naval rank mentioned is pronounced 'Left-tennant' in the Royal Navy and not lieutenant, as in the US Navy (unless I'm mistaken, if so please accept my apologies). Also Mike looks incredibly tall in the comparison shot. An I missing something there too?
I thought you said a “scented white star” at first and my dumbass thought “wait, what did it smell like?” Love the titanic stuff on the channel tho. Idk why it’s so fascinating.
Thanks for another awesome and highly informative video, Mike. Curious.... you pronounced lieutenant the American way rather than British. Is that how it's pronounced in Australia or did you do it so as to not confuse your US viewers?
I'm not sure but I think ONLY the British Army uses the pronunciation "leftenant," the Royal Navy pronounces it "lootenant." No-one really knows why the British Army pronounces it the way they do, although a camp diagram from the Engish Civil War of the 17th Century might give a clue. A line of tents pictured on the diagram are called "The Levetenant's Tents."
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 it's definitely pronounced the same in all branches of the British military. Just watch any British war movie. I'm in Canada and it's the same here.
@@dwaveryn Interesting! Thanks! Next time I watch "Sink The Bismarck!" or "Pursuit Of The Graf Spee" I'll listen closely! (Both great movies by the way!)
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 agreed! Both great films. A movie that comes to mind is "Assault on a Queen" in which Americans pose as a British submarine crew in order to detain and rob the Queen Mary. One of the pirates is tripped up when he pronounces lieutenant the American way.
3:25 Why did Titanic not fly the flag of Ireland at the time of entering Queenstown. Refresh my memory, had Ireland not become a free state at this time?
Not possible at all, there were too many open spaces such as the engine room that couldn't be divided into watertight compartments. And that's without figuring in any possible hull damage caused by the breakup itself.
I have in the past had to painstakingly correct someone who believed that the tail end of the 'King of the World' scene in the 1997 film showed 'Titanic' flying 'an Australian or New Zealand flag'. This same person believed they 'knew' the correct ensign 'Titanic' should have been flying. Sigh...
The best explanation of why Titanic has such a grip on the collective imagination as opposed to any other disaster is because unlike a plane crash it was a slow-motion disaster. Instead of happening in a matter of minutes it took two and a half hours. There's an awful lot of human interest stories that happened in that amount of time. Among other things of course. The personal stories are what grabs people's attentions and imaginations more than anything else.
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I've read, that Titanic had the blue British Flag, because she was a royal mail ship and royal mail ships also had the blue flag.
So the RMS is the main reason for the colour of the flag and not, if the Officers served at the royal navy 🙈
Could we talk about Titanic's morring equipment?
Blue Peter - oh the personal pain.
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Good thing they went with the blue ensign. If they didn't, it'd be a huge red flag ;)
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Great feature on Titanic's flags Mike! Flags are a hobby of mine and a fascinating study when you get into it. You hit all the high points.
In case anyone's wondering about the white border around the Union Jack of the pilot flag (also known as a jack, flown from a ship's bow while in port but not at other times) an unmodified Union Jack (properly known as the Union Flag) is restricted to use by the Royal Navy, no other vessels are allowed to fly (or "wear") it. However on land the Union Flag is the national flag of the UK and anyone can fly it.
Mike Brady presents _fun with flags_
Very interesting and enjoyable video. I remember a flag moment in the book Raise the Titanic. Just as the stern is slipping under, a crew member (played by Alec Guinness in the horrible movie) instinctively grabs onto the White Star flag on the stern (factual error). He get pulled under but eventually the flag is freed and he comes to the surface and is rescued. Years later he gives the flag to the crew who would raise the Titanic so they could return the flag to the ship. Yes, very corny and silly, but as a kid I gobbled it up.
I was thinking about the very same scene while watching this.
Horrible movie, no!!!! glorious movie, yes!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I remember right, Dirk Pitt (the hero of Clive Cussler's novels in those days)reties it back on the mainmast (which has been cut to a height of about 8 feet during the salvage operations). The crew member is young officer John Bigelow, a "stand-in" for Lightoller, who grabs the burgee as the mainmast is going under (he dives off the ship at the very last second after being forced to lead Joshua Hays Brewster down to the "vault" on G-Deck and racing to escape the ship as it plunges) and gives it to Pitt when he tells him about the raising operation, so that it can be returned to the place it belongs. It should be noted that the book was written some years before the wreck was found, so in both book and movie the ship is intact.
I think we should have “1 Mike” as the official flag measurement system 😂
Learned something interesting from this - I always believed the 'standard' flags like the burgee and Blue\Red Ensign were flown at ALL times, not hauled down at nightfall.
I actually HAVE the (alleged) White Star burgee from the 3rd BRITTANIC (the GEORGIC's sister ship). It's a big'un (I never measured it), and has a big red stain on the star. It's made of a rough material (perhaps burlap, or some rough cloth?).
How about a video on Titanic's - and other ships involved - wireless sets ?
As technical as you like, how it worked, frequency, range etc - I'd certainly be interested !
My step father is a Master Mariner, and was in the Merchant Navy for 50 years, and for his retirement he bought a 60ft motor yacht. On the few occasions that I sailed with him he flew the Red Ensign alongside the Welsh flag (we mostly sailed around my then home city of Swansea). I always assumed that the Welsh flag was for my mother, who is Welsh, but I now realise that it was because we were sailing in Welsh waters.
This guy is epic making all these vids about different ocean liners! It's nice to see one that doesn't just focus on the Olympic class!
As I recall you don't fly flags at night on shore unless they are lit by a bright light.
I wonder if this is the case for the Titanic not hosting any flags at night.
Possibly, however it may have been more to save wear and tear on the flags. No point flying the flags at night if there's no-one to see them.
Anyway, it's not obligatory to fly the national ensign all the time when at sea. The ensign DOES have to be flown when approaching other ships or harbors.
I put the Canadian Red Ensign on my Lego Titanic and some my other model ships because they are permanently “docked” here in Canada, depending on the era the ship is from it is a different Canadian flag of course.
Great video Mike, once again covering a topic no one has heard of, much to our delight. Please cover more of these unknown (ish) topics as they are extremely fascinating.
Nice to see someone make a video like this, It’s unique. It would be nice to see a video on Hamburg America Line in the 1920s.
I don't know why but the "here I am for scale" part really got a laugh out of me, I love the idea of using yourself for scale. Forget bananas for scale, we need you for scale instead!
Interestingly, the Pilot Jack isn't the only Jack to have stood at the prow of Titanic.
This is great timing. I just finished the front third of the Lego Titanic and was wondering what the reason for the US flag was on the mast.
The ferry to one of the five Dutch islands has the same design going forward as going back. This is very useful, as the ships don't have to be turned around when coming in to dock, and the cars can just drive on and off with no issue. But it leaves one problem: no good place to fly the Dutch flag. So the designer of the ship wanted to avoid it looking like a barge - his words - and on the bridgehouse in the middle of the ship, it has a system to raise and lower flags when docked, so that the Dutch flag is always flying towards the stern.
This is pure vanity, of course. It is an extremely complicated and expensive solution to a problem that doesn't really exist, but at the same time, it is kinda cool.
Thanks! this was new for me.
As always Mike, very informative and well presented. Thanks from New England.
0:53 @OceanlinerDesigns very nice remaking of the Titanic and the Carpathia!
Thank you for this video and all your others. They’re so detailed and informative. My son is five and is fascinated by the Titanic and her sister ships as well as some of the other old ocean liners. We spend a lot of time watching your videos and learning all about the ships.
This is such a classy yt channel. so well put together
I forgot to say that when we were in Hong Kong for a port visit we were there during a British holiday. I don't remember which one. We dressed the ship and flew the British Navy Ensign, similar to the red and blue ones you described but with a white field. As I recall it was flown from the main mast while the US flags occupied their traditional places at the bow and stern.
The RN's "White Ensign." Nelson's favorite.
Thanks Mike.... I always look forward to learning something new every day. Thanks for your time an effort.....
can't believe i wasn't subscribed to this channel; what a gem of a channel
Very nice video like always mike!
Thank you for this!! I had a few people arguing with me in a Titanic group on FB why I put the American flag on the forward mast of my Trumpeter model and I got so tired of explaining to people why haha!!!
As a former U. S. Navy petty officer I remember some of the rules about flags, most of which you covered. On U.S. Navy ships in port the U. S. Flay, the Ensign is flown on the stern. On the bow is flown the jack. In my time that was the blue field of stars on the US Flag. I believe at least some ships fly the "Don't Tread on Me" flag with a snake dating from the Revolutionary War. When at sea the Ensign is flown from a mast, usually near the signal bridge. The signal flags showing the ship's call sign were always flown when under weigh in port, entering and leaving. This was flown from one of several halyards handled at the signal bridge. Other flags would be flown to denote the presence of a pilot and other operations such as refueling and taking on ammunition. Not much different from your description of British merchant ship practices.
The "Don't Tread On Me" flag was revived during the Bicentennial years of 1975-1976. I know, I was THERE!. (USMC) Post-1976 the 50-star jack was reinstated.
However, as I understand it the "Don't Tread On Me" jack was revived after 9/11/2001 when the War on Terror began. It was in use until 2019 when the 50-star jack was reinstated. By the way, the 50-star jack is properly called the Union Jack!
You know, John Paul Jones didn't like the rattlesnake flag, it gave him the creeps! Personally I LIKE it! Much better than the 50-star jack, very dramatic and historic. If it was up to me I'd make it permanent.
The Titanic's First officer, William McMaster Murdoch's 3x great aunt was Mary Ann Paul, (John Paul Jones' older sister). Mark Louden (brother of William's 2 x great-grandmother, Ann Louden) married Mary Ann Paul at Kirkbean, Scotland in 1777, just before John Paul Jones commanded the Ranger.
thanks for a very informative videos about the difrent flags onboard a steam liner.
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Great info that I was curious about.
Yeeii ... FUN WITH FLAGS! 😄 Sheldon would be proud of you! He actually never made an episode about Flags on ships, I think!
Cool that such a specific topic like this can be so interesting. Good job making this video!
I love these types of videos❤️😅
The White Ensign of the RN, the Red Ensign of the merchant service, and the Blue Ensign were all originally RN ensigns, denoting seniority within a flag rank, and which mast it flew on determined the flag officer's rank. (mizzen for rear adm, fore for vice and main for Adm.) Blue-red-white was the seniority order of the ensigns. All ships assigned to that ADM would fly that color ensign on the stern.
During Olympic’s military service, would she have still been flying the red ensign or would she have received a different flag to denote armed merchant service?
That's a good question, and it's an "It depends" situation.
If Olympic was being operated by Royal Navy personnel and taken into service as "HMS Olympic" it would have flown the Royal Navy's White Ensign. If chartered by the British government but manned by a White Star crew it would have flown a Blue Ensign. Operated as a commercial ship only it would have flown a Red Ensign unless as Mike stated it carried a number of RN reservists as part of the crew, then it would have rated a Blue Ensign.
Great video as always. Please make a video of if titanic and britannic/ gigantic did not sink
I believe both are there already.
As a fan of signal flags, this was very informative! I'm even buying a blue ensign for my birthday from Amazon.
Oh great! Where will you put it? :)
@@OceanlinerDesigns In my window.
That's very very interesting, i thought the flags are just for design 😅
Very interesting!!
Big flags; makes sense why they're so defined in paintings. They could've been seen from quiet a distance 😃
Cool
Rlly diggin Down deep in the titanic barrel here Mike. Either way, good job (:
I see it more as an opportunity to discuss standard practices which apply to all other ships through a Titanic lens! So if you know how it worked on Titanic - you know how it worked on Mauretania for example :)
@@OceanlinerDesigns fair enough lad. Understandable (:
@@OceanlinerDesigns thx for replying as well btw
Bout time someone made a video like this
Thank you for this. I’ve been slowly accruing Titanic’s flags and displaying them the week of April 14 every year.
Things I did not know I needed until I saw them: This video.
So practical!!
Saw your shorts about th bells of Titanic- The second bell would alså have been required to give fog signals.
Titanic: A British ship, owned by an American company, built in Ireland.
British ship, owned by a British company which was under an American mercantile, built in then-British-ruled Ireland.
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Nice!
Another brilliant, and insightful episode .
Great video captain! Keep up the awesome work.
Interesting! I remember seeing the US flag on a model of _Titanic_ once and assuming it was there because IMM was an American-owned company (and thinking how that must have galled the British crew).
My first response to the title was "as very small sails to increase the cruising speed". Gotta get that Blue Riband somehow!
i remember seeing a photo of olympic or titanic that had a BUNCH of flags flying across the top cable mast of hte ship from the front mast to the stern. do you recall what that was for?
Sounds like you saw a photo where either one "dressed ship." Sometimes dressing ship is done for national holidays, or when a ship makes it's first visit to a port as kind of a salute and "How do you do?" to that particular port. Dressing ship is only done in port, never at sea. I don't know about commercial ships but the US Navy and Royal Navy have a particular sequence for the signal flags when dressing ship. It dosn't spell out any message though.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 even rainbow flags?
@@randomrazr Well not THAT rainbow flag. You may have noticed one of the more colorful signal flags that stood out even in a black and white photo.
Thanks for the great video mate. I ended up getting a white star line flag made for my titanic Lego set.
I just got back from princess discovery and I saw the red duster
I was wondering if _Titanic_ ever actually flew the Pilot jack, as it seemed like an odd thing for the Lego Titanic to include it but not the White Star Flag (I assume that has something to do with Cunard still holding trademarks for the White Star.)
Looks like Blue Peter indicating the master and some officers is in the Royal Navy Reserve. I have a Red Duster from the Queen Elizabeth.
Superb information!
Aww. Poor old Alec Guinness took the wrong flag.
(Raise the Titanic(1980), touching scene where he pulls out a White Star pennant-style flag, not the Blue Ensign).
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Would there have been an explosion that created an even larger gash in her hull?
Very interesting.
Neat! Thanks for the information. I don't know what I'll use it for in my everyday inland life, but any day you learn something new is a good day.
You used yourself for scale on these six-feet-tall flags...are you about 6'5 then, or are Australian feet measurements different than American ones?
Yessir spot on - 6’5!
Again, neat! Being an outlier from the norm myself, I always appreciate it in others
There was a Flag code in later times for "I have struck and Iceberg"
Great video, I always learn so much when I watch your videos. So if the flags were 6 feet tall the photos of you leaning against the flags indicate that you are taller than 6 feet.
The New Zealand flag is a version of the Blue Ensign. (Australia copied us) :)
Wow I didn't know about the different verients of flags and their meaning I mostly thought they were for decorations or occasion propose good to know..
What about the flag poles on the docking bridge, were flags ever flown from them and were they signal flags?
Now I I'm curious. The day she was dressed in Southampton, what were all the flags? If they were signal flags, what did they spell out? How were they raised and lowered, especially the ones over the funnel?
Blue Peter, oh the personal pain.
That was great Mike. I like how you are always dressed in a tie and vest. Distinguished. I also never thought you that tall. But hard to see behind a microphone.
Do we know if these flags still exist on the wreck somewhere?
If the flag lockers are intact and undamamged the flags would still be in there, however it's problematic just what's left of them. British flags of the time were made of wool which is quite durable but consdering the VERY hostile environment two-and-a-half miles down I wouldn't be optimistic.
The 4 letter/flag call sign hvmp is . Like the TS Empire State VI is KKFW and the P&Os second Oriana was ZCDU9 the same as he predecessor. So it’s still used in radio communication as well, at least in the colonies.
Well done!
Thank you!
2:14 is our friend Mike Brady really about 6 and a half feet tall? Guess it's hard to say, now that I'm thinking about it I don't think I've ever actually seen him standing up.
6'5".
In future, near Iceberg area night journeys should be avoided. During nights without lights it is not visible so why lighted big boards are fitted on both sides with " HELP " so that helping ships can see and save.
Thanks.
An excellent video! I like flags a lot, they fascinate me, so it's great to hear about Titanic's!
I knew she had signal flags, of course, but all the others were news to me. I always wondered what the point of that line connecting the mast and the first funnel was.
I do have a question: did Titanic, and, in general, other ships, only carry one set of signal flags? I know they can be used as letters, but constricting yourself to only one letter is a bit too restrictive, I would think.
There were multiples of each flag although I’m not sure on the exact numbers there :) They were kept in a locker in the wheelhouse.
While each signal flag corresponds to one letter or number combinations of the same are used to form a "shorthand" message or signal. If a shorthand version isn't in the signal book the flags can be used to spell out a complete message.
Single signal flags when flown by themselves also have a shorthand message such as "I am turning to port/starbord" or "I need assitance" and so on.
@@OceanlinerDesigns Thanks!
5:14 Ohhhhhh so that’s why I saw theses in the krusty krab
Love this
Great video. P for Papa mean All person should report on board as the vessel is about to proceed to sea.
On Titqnic, on cerimonial, have the flags of all countrys or just countrys by some relation with Great-Britain?
Very informative, however may I respectfully point out that the lines described as 'Haliyards' are in fact halyards and that the naval rank mentioned is pronounced 'Left-tennant' in the Royal Navy and not lieutenant, as in the US Navy (unless I'm mistaken, if so please accept my apologies). Also Mike looks incredibly tall in the comparison shot. An I missing something there too?
No sir, I am 6’6” :)
@@OceanlinerDesigns wow, you don't look it sat down lol. Nice suit & hat btw!
Can you do a video of the Sheer line on the ships
I thought you said a “scented white star” at first and my dumbass thought “wait, what did it smell like?” Love the titanic stuff on the channel tho. Idk why it’s so fascinating.
Would code flag H have been worn while the pilot was on board as the ship left Southampton?
On my ships I only fly the Jolly Roger.
Great Voice, Always handsome, Fantastic information
Thanks for another awesome and highly informative video, Mike.
Curious.... you pronounced lieutenant the American way rather than British. Is that how it's pronounced in Australia or did you do it so as to not confuse your US viewers?
I'm not sure but I think ONLY the British Army uses the pronunciation "leftenant," the Royal Navy pronounces it "lootenant." No-one really knows why the British Army pronounces it the way they do, although a camp diagram from the Engish Civil War of the 17th Century might give a clue. A line of tents pictured on the diagram are called "The Levetenant's Tents."
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 it's definitely pronounced the same in all branches of the British military. Just watch any British war movie. I'm in Canada and it's the same here.
@@dwaveryn Interesting! Thanks! Next time I watch "Sink The Bismarck!" or "Pursuit Of The Graf Spee" I'll listen closely! (Both great movies by the way!)
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 agreed! Both great films. A movie that comes to mind is "Assault on a Queen" in which Americans pose as a British submarine crew in order to detain and rob the Queen Mary. One of the pirates is tripped up when he pronounces lieutenant the American way.
@@dwaveryn I've seen "Assault On A Queen" myself. Kind of silly, but fun just the same.
Some people think that All the flags on Titanic were white star line's. Odd.
Who knew flags could say a thousand words
Our friend Mike Brady is 6’6”? 😮
6'5".
3:25 Why did Titanic not fly the flag of Ireland at the time of entering Queenstown. Refresh my memory, had Ireland not become a free state at this time?
It was indeed flying Ireland’s flag when entering. The picture shown was taken a little while before the ship left for the United States.
*likely
Ireland wasn't independent until 1919-1921
When the ship broke in half. How possible was it, that the second have would have just stayed above water?
Not possible at all, there were too many open spaces such as the engine room that couldn't be divided into watertight compartments. And that's without figuring in any possible hull damage caused by the breakup itself.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 it would've been possible if the entire interior was gutted, the watertight doors weren't pulverized, And it was just the hull.
What was the song playing in the intro of the video?
I have in the past had to painstakingly correct someone who believed that the tail end of the 'King of the World' scene in the 1997 film showed 'Titanic' flying 'an Australian or New Zealand flag'. This same person believed they 'knew' the correct ensign 'Titanic' should have been flying. Sigh...
could we have a discussion on why this beautiful and tragic ship has such a grasp of mankind?
Your question, can not ever be fully answered. It could be debated until the end of time.
The best explanation of why Titanic has such a grip on the collective imagination as opposed to any other disaster is because unlike a plane crash it was a slow-motion disaster. Instead of happening in a matter of minutes it took two and a half hours. There's an awful lot of human interest stories that happened in that amount of time. Among other things of course. The personal stories are what grabs people's attentions and imaginations more than anything else.
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You tower over those large flags.