I think she absolutely made a mistake. She should've stayed at Louisville and tried to model her game after Kelsey Mitchell on the Indiana Fever as an undersized 2. She just doesn't have the court vision, ball handling, or decision making to be a PG full-time.
💯 agree and she doesn’t have the foot speed either to play defense but she has a solid game and she can definitely 💯 improve her game and her skill set
@@Hello_BeautifulPeople Kelsey Mitchell is way faster than HVL, and has a better shot and runs and finishes in transition at an elite level. Not so for Hailey. HVL won't develop WNBA speed or quickness, and is not likely to fix her shot. Even if her shooting percentage improves next year, her low release and lack of jumping and athleticism mean she won't be able shoot off the dribble in the WNBA. And she'll never be a good defender or rebounder.
I still don’t understand how you have a 5’7” slow feet guard defending Caitlyn Clark when you have a great athletic long wing defender in Flau’jae. It blows my mind.
Clark knew how to draw fouls and Flaujae had too many to where even though she was better at defending Clark, she couldve gotten more fouls and foul out
@taylorferguson28 I honestly think, Mulkey made the mistake of trying to actually protect Flau'jae from foul trouble. She felt she could play and still win if HVL gets in foul trouble and isn't on the floor, ((because she could play Poa and Flau'jae), but there's no wining scenario with no Flau'jae. It was a mistake.
@@AlexOttoFlau'jae didn't get her first foul until a loose ball foul going for an offensive rebound with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. But those are the type of fouls you CAN'T get (and Flau'jae is good for about 2 random, not smart fouls a game) and having the Caitlin Clark assignment, (which I still feel she should have had), and it was poor offensive strategy not having ANYONE threaten or attack Caitlin, and possibly get HER in foul trouble
Her liabilities was exposed. Leaving Louisville was a culture shock to her game, wide open offenses with passive defenses in the ACC, the SEC is different. I don’t know how she will learn to play defense in 1 year, unless Kim starts using zone defenses to protect her.
@@datdude1021 Kim should’ve ran switches to make CC play defense, tire her out and her shooting % drops when she’s tired. The whole 4th quarter, Flaja should’ve been assigned to CC.
@@AlexDrewsumin I agree, she hasn’t reached her potential, however Kim will have to adjust her defense around her liabilities. I don’t know why they didn’t play more zone to protect her.
i actually feel quite bad for hvl. kim mulkey set her up all year and this game was the worst of them all. putting hvl on caitlin was one thing but not even teaching your team how to properly hedge screens, communicate on switches, never go under screens with great shooters or get back on defense in transition (which hurt them the most) is just mind boggling incompetence on her part. also hvl is taking most of the brunt but had morrow, reese or williams hit their shots in the second half that was a very winnable game for them. no one is happier than kim mulkey that hvl transferred to lsu because she’s taking ALL the heat that should be mostly on kim right now
Good points, but HVL has to take responsibility for her terrible play. She couldn't hit open shots. Players she was guarding were going around her or shooting over her like she wasn't there.
@@jrod22986 she’s an undersized guard who has always been a traffic cone on defense even going back to her louisville days. it’s her coach’s responsibility to set up a good defensive game plan that doesn’t put your biggest defensive liability on the other teams best player. any other good coach would have hid hvl on gabby. hvl didn’t hit her shots and there was a lot of that to go around but that also falls on mulkey to slow her team down, run their sets and get good high percentage shots not chuck up 88 shots and pray
@@lexsea Good point. I would've switched off picks and ran double-teams at Clark all game to get the ball out of her hands. But again, you can't give HVL a pass. She played terrible ball all year and wouldn't have been in the starting lineup if Mulkey had better options. Remember, HVL averaged 11.6 points on 37.8% shooting and only 3.6 assists for the year.
@@iamgreatnow7218Shut up with that kind of crap, the game was not fixed. LSU got beat by a better Iowa team, that's it. Every time LSU loses at anything some of their pathetic and arrogant fans claim the game was fixed. This arrogant attitude is why LSU is so hated by everybody other than LSU fans.
Damn right she was a go to star at loui but at LSU she became a pass first guard. Her entire offensive game was crushed. She lost confidence in her game.
Probably should have either stayed where she was or gone somewhere else where the team would be built around her. She went to a Final Four and the elite8 with Louisville taking advantage of her strengths. This year she had her weakness exposed. Now she’s in the portal again and rather than a “super team “ she’s probably going to be looking for a showcase for herself
I don’t think Hailey has any spot in the WNBA right now after this year.. so she def has to go back to college. But can she ever repair her future??? I do not think so B2S
Hailey's problem as a WNBA 2-guard prospect is she doesn't have the athleticism and size, and her shot is only mediocre, and not likely to be fixed because of her weird low release. Even if she were to improve her shot, she still is slow, can't jump or rebound, can't defend at a WNBA level, and doesn't get separation with good moves. Marina Mabrey is the model for a slow 2-guard who makes it in the WNBA (or Sabrina Ionescu), but Mabrey has a pro shooting form with high release and great range, is big, and has fantastic step-back and dribble moves. HVL has none of that. Her only path would be as a point guard, where size is less important, but she doesn't have the speed and separation quickness and moves for playing point at the highest level, and her shot at range and finishing plus defense are still a problem. HVL is not a serious WNBA prospect no matter where she goes.
Great take! HVL’s release is WAY too low! Her shooting elbow should be above the ear at release! Her shot is inconsistent and flat. Arc on her shot would make it more consistent. Release point at her eyebrow or better yet above her head would make her shot more potent!
@@charliedoyle7824 that was ok when she was in middle school grade school whenever that was. But by high school, college, she should have had her release point as high as possible. I’ve seen the clips of HVL and her pops practicing. He should have added the broom test. Come at her with a raised broom to challenge her shooting at the perimeter. That would have made her raise her set/release point. That would have also gave her game time adjustments on her shot. She could do that in the off season and increase her field goal percentages and 3 point percentages immensely! (Smh) She won’t have Angel Reese next year, she declared for the draft!
@@marcusb.3038 HVL should change her shot, but it's not so easy to shoot well in the first year with a new stroke. It would take a ton of smart work. But she won't change it anyway. I doubt she knows her shot is a problem.
She absolutely does need a redemption season. I like HVL and feel for all the backlash she is receiving. She played like a "good" freshman this year. She has the fullest potential to be great, but she made avoidable critical errors that usually not seen by upper classmen.
You make a smart final assessment that HVL played like a “good” freshman. Never heard it framed that way…excellent analysis. Unfortunately the expectation was for her to play like a star senior from the great 2020 class and the #1 player from the transfer portal.
How about simply remembering just how good Caitlin Clark is? I have been involved in basketball for 35+ years, and I think Hailey actually played pretty good defense on Clark - no one else has been able to stop her either. I do wonder why no one has tried double-teaming Clark (although her teammates are doing a great job of knocking down open 3’s) - it will be interesting to see what Geno Auriemma decides to do. Again, I think Van Lith played much better D than she is being given credit for - when someone’s repeatedly hitting 35-foot 3-pointers, it doesn’t mean that a defender is playing bad defense.
Yo that’s so true she did look like a freshman out there. Never thought of it like that before. Just struggling to integrate with the team and lacking confidence and still learning. Thats how she looked. What a huge mistake she made
Georgia is my fav college player. I was very nervous about Amoore coming back in any scenario. As great as she is, it’s going to be hard to keep her stock as high w/o an experienced Kitley to play off of. I’m afraid her stock may drop even if she goes to Kentucky w/ brooks as the known quantity. Clara Strack will prob transfer to Kentucky, but she is still early in dev. I thought Amoore should’ve declared b/c she’s international and she’ll be in a rebuild situation whether at va tech or Kentucky. Strike while the iron is hot.
maybe playing a year at kentucky will help her. she'll play more aggressive, defensively minded teams in the sec. but yes, its a roll of the dice. she too may get exposed. i wonder how many of these girls are seeing what happened with hailey and maybe questioning their preparedness for the next level? wnba def needs a g league.
1. Why didn't Mulkey put HVL(5'7l on Marshall (5'9)? 2. Transition of position. Remember when Shaylee Gonzalez struggled at PG when Harmon was out doing the (22-23). So when Harmon got hurt this season, he didn't put her at point. Vic Schaefer put Madison Booker as the primary point guard.
Yessss i was looking for a comment like this!! I couldn’t agree any more!! Shaylee is a better guard and so is hvl, no shame no shade no disrespect but sometimes you gotta stick w what you’re best at
@@daliasanchez3762 yeah, but shaylee just declared for wnba too and she's gonna be in for a rude awakening just like HVL!! i kinda think it was a blessing in disguise for hvl to come to lsu. she totally got a wake up call about her abilities. just like chennedy carter! this girl was the #1 draft pick in 2020 and wasnt even on a roster last year. the wnba can be very humbling. had hvl stayed at louisville, had a phenomenal season, entered the draft this year, then got cut, we'd all be wondering why she too didnt make a roster.
Yeah but it took him last season to figure that out, just like Mulkey. Mulkey had no choice but to stick with her at point because that was probably the biggest request HVL made in order to seal the deal. Mulkey shutting her down permanently would have down serious damage to her recruiting karma.
@@alanlee3236yea but at the end of the day HVL is a baller. If at the elite 8, and her coach says the game plan is for her to play off the ball. Against the same team that eliminated her in the final 4 last yr, I think she would do it. Ballers wanna ball AND win. HVL is very competitive. I think she would make the sacrifice.
Figuring that out late in one's career isn't going to get it. I mean, I have no problem with HVL going for it by transferring to LSU so she can play pg, but that doesn't change it being a steep climb with little time.
Correct. HVL won't be a WNBA 2-guard. Not athletic enough, and she has a weird, mediocre shot, and not much in transition and defense. She should still try to be a point next year, but it's not likely to impress the WNBA scouts. She's not quick enough. Points need to get separation and accelerate past defenders, otherwise they get trapped. She can dribble, but isn't a WNBA athlete. If she wants a pro career, she'll be in Europe or Australia.
@@TheJhtlag HVL has another year in college to figure out the point, so she should go for it. Grace Berger figured out the point in one year at Indiana, and got drafted and was a decent rookie in the WNBA; she could do that because she's a good athlete. HVL's problem is she isn't athletic enough for the WNBA at any position. If she were faster, she could be a good point guard with her dribbling. But speed is the hardest thing to improve.
Georgia Amoore is also good friends with some of the girls on Iowa. Iowa needs a one year point guard next year while developing their incoming freshmen class and she'd be able to shine in Bluder's offense
@@RichardIILionheart I agree Kentucky is most likely where she's going. But if she is looking for a chance for something different for her final year, there are some big programs that would be a good fit.
Absolutely! She's already earned her BA in 3 years at Louisville and is probably doing her Master's work now, she'll graduate with no student loans probably since she's been on scholarship, a nice little NIL bank account that's probably been invested wisely, and will probably enter the private sector with offers far higher than the $75k she'd get sitting on a bench in obscurity.... Hell, she could earn that teaching undergrad Finance as a college adjunct!
HVL has lots of handle, but not the speed or quickness, and the shooting technique her dad taught her is lousy. She can't accelerate past defenders off the dribble. Pretty much any college defender can stay in front of her, and she doesn't do much in transition. She's just too slow to play point at a high level, same with 2-guard. If she wants to play pro ball, it'll be somewhere in Slovakia or whatever.
She definitely needs to transfer there's no point in staying even if angel stays. It feels like they don't know how to use her or not even paying attention to her at all. UCLA is a good option for her since Osborne is leaving they have similar playstyle with LSU. Betts is a dominant big but unlike Reese she doesn't force as soon as they double Betts would often find open teammates. With HVL's shooting she can excel there she will have many opportunities to score. The only thing that HVL has is her scoring ability to be precise its shooting whether it's mid range or 3. But LSU doesn't need that the team has 4 scorers that is not looking to pass the ball, she will never be a scorer in this team. It's evident early in the season that she will never be a great defender either. Quick guards will blow by her and taller players will shoot over her the only thing left is passing and playmaking. Which is impossible to achieve in 2 years she would be OK at it but not good enough to make it to the standard of WNBA. She needs a team that will allow her to take more shots to get her numbers up while learning other stuff if wants to get drafted.
Her shooting during the Iowa game was atrocious. She shot quite a few times but the only baskets she made were free throws. If she had made 1/2 of her shots, LSU would have won the game.
@@JT_70 It's not only during the Iowa game every round of the tournament it's the same bad shooting. I don't think it's her fault tho she was never talented to begin with. I think what made her a good shooter/player is hard work. The moment she switched to PG all her focus turned to playing like a traditional PG. Not a scoring PG but a pass first PG, if you play all season long not planning on scoring that will f up your game. She was a terrible fit for this team, LSU doesn't need a player like her they need a pure PG that can defend. I feel like the coaching staff tried to teach her everything as fast as possible, effectively destroying her game.
@@JT_70 The Iowa game is just a highlight of the fact that they really don't know how to use her. She hit her shot early in that game and for a shooter that is big so they get into a rhythm. But she got benched because they screwed up the defensive assignment. She should've been guarding marshall not clark, that way she won't get exposed on D while trying to get her shots going.
yeah, youre right. ucla would be a good fit for her. especially since i think she really wants a ring too. and ucla will def be in the mix next year for a championship. cori close is a great coach. a couple of the ucla commits played in the mcdonald's all american game yesterday and looked pretty good.
She has to comeback to college…not LSU though. It's not a good fit for both. Poa and Johnson can be developed more for PG and stay there longer. HVL needs to go back to her natural position as a small 2.
EVERYBODY'S CLOWNIN. HVL. WHEN. POA GETS. A. PASSS_MAN. I. THOUGHT SYRUP WAS. SLOW AND. SHE'S DA. LIABILITY-WHO. DA. FUCK. GOES. UNDER. A. SCREEN PLAYIN. D_NOT. A. FRESHMAN ALRIGHT _DAMN MAKEUP. BABIES😮😮😮😮DOWN. NER- AND. MULKEY'S. BRAIN. IS SIDETRACKED. BY. SUMTHIN. SHE'S. EVOKED. OR WAS. SEEN OR. HEARD. SAYIN-NEVA SEEN. HER. DIS. NAKED. AT. COACHING STRATEGIES 😮😮😮
I'm so sorry for HVL because she has to wear the goat horns. But the tigers were never a great team and they were lucky to win last year they didn't have to play South Carolina in the final and Utah should have beaten them in the sweet 16. Last season at Louisville she scored almost 20 points a game was terrific in the tournament and even went head-to-head with cc3 and did not get blown off the court she scored 27 points. She probably would have been an All-American this year maybe a third team All-American and Louisville probably would have been a top 10 caliber team. Now Hailey is going to be blamed for the subpar season for LSU. I would love to see her transfer to Iowa and regain her scoring touch she could score 20 points a game there or more and the same with Hannah who will be a junior for the Hawkeyes. I just never got the feeling that Kim wanted hvl.
It would have been a very tough challenge for anyone to guard Clark, but Hailey isn't really known for her defence. She's too slow to keep up with Clark. She didn't do that bad in the first half, but she didn't look as good in the second half. As for the move itself to go to LSU, Kim coaches first to benefit the team, and would put individual player development second. So while there was an opportunity on paper for Hailey, it sort of makes sense that the season unfolded the way it did. It will be very difficult for her to be a point guard in the WNBA so maybe needs to re-evaluate things. I can see her continuing at LSU (if Kim wants her) or maybe leaving since I just get the feeling it's a bit toxic there. There's plenty of other good teams that would want her, and she would likely do well there, if she goes back into the transfer portal.
LSU isn’t toxic, but due to the attention and social media, we know more about the locker room than others. The issues we had are the same as other. However, the media heel vs babyface (LSU/Gamecocks vs Clark/UCLA) gives the toxic vibe. It’s overall good for WBB.
@@DisrespectfullyClassieMarcEBla I agree with you that LSU does get more attention than other programs. But there has definitely been stuff going on there that other programs don't go through.
@@artdogg50 Yeah, big height difference. Although I think there was someone from West Virginia guarding her who was relatively short but really fast and they seemed to be as effective as anyone against her.
There was no mistake in transferring to LSU. HVL wanted the heat and she got to play the best teams in the league. It's often worse before it gets better. For a team that was playing with only 7 players, they had a remarkable run. HVL style of play was not going to get her a place in WNBA. No one can develop into an elite point guard in one season while still having the pressure of defending a championship. She will be alright.
@B2S: Another great topic…The Portal. Moving forward, it seems most fans expect more players to enter the portal, so I hope you decide to dedicate additional segments to it. Not only who is coming in and who is going out, but like this segment, how are these transfers doing in their new assignments. Thank you.
And it basically resets her game but this time I don’t think a top is taking her she ain’t good she don’t bring nothing good to the table I feel like she messed her career up going to LSU
Yep that is the hope - she comes back and settles in better. Will be a better environment for development next year as not so much focus on LSU as Angel has left. This season did not work out but she took a chance and overall seems more happy than she was at Louisville so overall it is a win for her IMO.
Transfering worked out well for Tehina Pao Pao and the gamecocks. She said in an interview, "they need me", and they did. If you transfer to where you are needed they I think it's a good fit.
The Washington Post article was a warning to Kim Mulkey to remember to throw the game OR ELSE. Putting HVL on CC for 30 minutes instead of FJ or POA was an indicator the fix was in. The media has too much invested in CC and need her to go to the championship for ratings revenues. While Poa was in the game and HVL sat the bench, the LSU lead extended. Once HVL was back on the floor, the lead dissipated. Angel Reese limping off the court to sit out, FJ's low energy in the first half, oh but can score at will just before a quarter ends and jump around, SUS! LSU took a dive. FJ and AR are too connected into the system at this point and Mulkey can be controlled because she has probably got a lot of dirt hidden. Now let's watch and see if Geno does something boneheaded that makes no sense to lose the final four game, too.
HVL is ring-chasing. She should have stayed at Louisville; they play her type of ball. By continuing to move around, she is devaluing her stock, potentially making herself look problematic and not a real team player.
Angel Reese declared for the draft. HVL will probably declare too. HVL graduated in three years, so how much school is enough? Is playing another year for Mulkey, when she showed zero improvement under her, going to prepare her better for the pros? If you want to improve for the pros, join the pros….. either the WNBA bench or overseas or both.
Agree that a move carries PLENTY uncertainty. However, Stability is mainly dependent on the COACH & not so much the school. Hence, Amoore will be okay if she has the same coach.
Oregon State will be in the weak Big 12 now. Beers and Gardiner should enter the portal as well. Go to a $uper conference (SEC or BigTen) while you can.
For all those who have negative comments about Haley let’s just say this, regardless, if she would’ve stayed at Louisville or transferred the exact same thing would’ve happened. When you stay somewhere where you’re comfortable and you know you’re perfect, you lack to see the areas you need to work on. It takes guts for any player to realize that if they wanna be pro gonna have to do something different. Angel did it, Alexis did it, Anisa did it, and so many more. If she would’ve stayed at Louisville and then tried to go pro, her rookie year would’ve been a disaster to say the least. Because she lacks skills in areas where she wasn’t able to train her perfect. The professional level is a rude awakening for so many players, who don’t have a diversified, skill set, and Haley was smart enough to know that she can’t only just be good at shooting the ball. Coming to LSU was not a mistake God works in mysterious ways. This was a year to challenge her for a year for her to reflect, and a year for her to see what she needs to work on. Y’all can judge her and be bullies online because you can’t say anything to her face, but the end of the day, her wallet still full, and she has a whole year to fix what went wrong for this year. she is braver than most and stronger than most to do what she did this year, but guess what she’s not gonna go into a pro league industry and look at the way she looked this year. No, she’ll come back next year, and she’ll be a very different player. I can guarantee that. And for all you haters out there who run your mouth and I’ve talk down to her negative way. Well, then be cheering for her and her biggest fans. Which is sad, that you tear somebody down because they had a bad year a year full of lessons is what it should be looked at. Though yet fans who choose to bully and destroy people online handmade a year to make this woman feel like she’s a failure, and that she should regret her decision. Remember the word you say and what you put out into the world. Because at the end of the day when this girl comes back and she makes her come back, you’ll be eating your words.
Tend to agree she took a chance and did not work out this season in terms of raising her wnba stock but overall she seems happy so it is a win for her. Hopefully she returns and her game develops. But respect that she took a risk.
College kids moving to a different school to improve career chances is not only normal but essential. Students head to Berkeley or Stanford or MIT to get this or that degree and work with the best and get more academic cred. Why wouldn't ball players do the same? Loyalty to a school is silly if a player can do better and raise their profile elsewhere.
You don't know didly. While in high school she begged Geno to sign her to UCONN. Geno had two choices. He said the first one to sign got the scholarship. Paige signed first. HVL then went looking elsewhere.
Iowa played a great game, but also LSU was poorly coached. Why is LSU jacking up threes when their inside game is so dominant. HVL should have gone to the bench and stayed there.
i mean, thats easy to say until you start getting calls for offensive fouls. the defensive team is gonna pick up on that eventually. the only person ive seen thats played that masterfully is AUDI CROOKS. she has total control of her body and knows when the opportunity is right to score or toss the ball back out. thats why she went 18/20 against maryland. angel's MO is to contort and toss her body into the defender in order to get fouls called. her goal is to hardly ever focus and actually MAKE the layup! she picks up so many unnecessary fouls this way. she didnt get alot of those calls this year and spent a ton of time on the floor, wait until she gets to the W....
I don't get why everyone is blaming HVL for LSU's poor season and finish. Angel quit early in the season, missing a week or more. Obviously, turmoil present in the LSU ranks. Poor team defense evident with lack of all players. Home game refs allowed LSU post players' fouling go unchecked. Coach's poor decision to leave HVL to guard was Caitlin wasn't her fault.
I believe Mulkey knows HVL isn’t ready for the WNBA. She exposed HVL to all the WNBA scouts. She’s not effective as a point guard. She commits too many turnovers especially in crunch time and her handles as a PG are mediocre. When defenders pressure her she either picks up the dribble and stalls the play or she commits a turnover. I think Mulkey didn’t want to tell HVL she wasn’t ready for the next level instead she put her on the best player in Caitlyn to cement what she(Mulkey) knew the entire season. If she couldn’t guard Caitlyn, she wouldn’t be able to guard any player in the WNBA!
As a UCONN fan well both myself and Back 2 Sports are embarrassed on our predictions that USC would be beaten by USC🤣. Anyway we were both incorrect. Back 2 Sports here is a subject I would like to hear your take on, Kelly Graves has been able to recruit 1 recruiting classes at Oregon but then most of them leave either after their first or second yrs kinda leaving the program in tatters right now. What's your opinion on it.
Hailey is not very likeable at this time. She talks like she's an elite pick while her play doesn't quite match that status. On top of that, combined with the toxicity of the LSU culture, she was doomed to fail. Caitlin toasted her on every occasion and Mulkey had her sent to the bench within the first 3 minutes of the game. Hailey should press the re-set button and try the more humble approach to restore her "brand" which seems to be so important to young female athletes these days. Good luck !
I agree. She should have went to a program that actually develops their players. I've NVR seen a player under Kim develop skill wise. She should have went to Ole Miss, USC, or Baylor.
She didnt make no mistake, shes just not good enough, you cant teach athleticism and shes no point guard and worse she cant defend her shadow if she tried. Stop making excuses for her because shes pretty
Going to the transfer portal is the worst thing she could do because no top team is taking her and she want to go to a championship caliber team considering it her last year and LSU will not be a championship caliber team without Reese they be like this year Tennessee next year
Kim did what she was told to do. Then had the nerve to praise the other player that she placed on a TALLER shooting expert. It was like taking “free throws” for Clark. I feel sorry for that kid. She is a victim of politics.
The coach should resign. The fact she lied about didn’t realize the national anthem started is pure BS. The team has not stood for the national anthem in other games. Shame on her. Also she should teach her players sportsmanship. Let’s talk about Angel taunting Caitlin last year when Iowa lost well karma hurts. Caitlin when being disrespected did not respond. Personally I think this Angle thinks she’s it and she not. If she doesn’t change her attitude she’s going nowhere. It’s really sad when people don’t give Caitlin the respect she deserves.
I posted many times this year that HVL is dramatically overrated and I got repeatedly attacked by LSU partisans, including some who have commented on this video. How are they all feeling about HVL now? She made that team worse every time she stepped on the court. Coming out of HS she had a very quick first step but added pounds have eroded her quickness. Now you are left with a slow, short guard who is not an elite shooter or passer, and is a poor defender. What does that add up to? DII level talent at best which is what she had on full display in the Iowa game. Any WNBA team picking her is absolutely wasting a draft choice.
I put the blame on LSU's coach, period. I have no issues with Hailey defending Clark, but once the Iowa pick came, why Coach M didn't have the weak side defender trap Clark to disrupt the offense would have been more effective. Even when Clark drove the lane, zero weak side help, that is coaching. On the offense, Reese, GIVE ME THE BALL. that made Hailey hesitant to shoot, even when she drove the lane, she was thinking pass first which killed her rhythm, That is coaching. Hailey gave maximum effort and was left on an island and she deserves none of the blame. Lastly, besides coaching. Reese has so many holes in her game, namely, she can't shot passed 8 feet, nor can she shoot foul shots. She didn't add to her game over the summer, so Iowa simply packed it in and dared LSU to score from the outside, but they was too busy forcing it in to Reese. That is bad coaching.
What you need to understand about sports is that players also need to be on form. HVL has not been on form all season. She should have been popping 20+ points a game and dictating the play 😢
Mullet cannot take all the blame for HVL’s generally unspectacular play this year. Since she was learning a different position, she might get some breaks, but it was too little and too late.
Yeah but it’s gonna be very hard because the improvements she’s gonna have to make is very substantial. She is gonna have to be dramatically more efficient as a shooter and a scorer. I think that’s possible but requires full commitment and dedication. As a pg she’s missing timing and that is hard to develop but even more so within a dynamic game like basketball Yeah Mulkey actually had one of her worst coaching performances. Hailey Van Lith their worst defender on a generational player. single coverage. No blitz. No hedging. Yikes.
HVL doesn't have the court vision, at this point, to be a PG. She also lacks elite quickness and speed which in today's game is nearly a prerequisite to be a PG at a top level college or in the WNBA.
Yep. And she can't jump, and her shot is a low release and not very good. She's a long way from being a serious WNBA prospect. She'll likely be a 3rd round pick and cut after a week in camp when she is done with college.
Her biggest problem is she was never hungry to begin with. As much as I dislike Angel Reese, at least she was hungry. At least that woman had fight in her. That said, Hailey Van Lith only joined them because she thought it would be her fast track to getting a championship. If she does return, I hope losing this game to Iowa (and for her second year in a row) fuels a fire in the pit of her stomach. I hope she works on her game this summer and stays off of social media.
Yes it looks like she made a mistake, however, I love people who bet on themselves bc if you don't who else is gonna but sometimes it can go wrong as it did in her case. She just doesn't have PG instincts and has never taken playing D seriously. But I still feel bad for her although like you said she brought it all on herself with all of the crazy interviews she did. Btw I agree with you matching her up with Caitlin Clark really killed her prospects. Sadly for her Angel Reece has already declared for the WNBA earlier today.
Agree with all of that Calvin. I really like that she took a chance but that interview really set her up as she is an easy target to hate as she is attractive, smart and confident and people are jealous of her. And then Kim did her no favours by putting her on CC IMO. Yep appears Angel declared while I was sleeping so video dated in less than 4 hours.
I agree she clearly made a mistake. However, I would be careful about using her as a case study or comp since she was somewhat of an anomaly in many ways -- not least of which was her tendency to overestimate how good she was. As you pointed out, she and her dad did a ton of self-promotion even in HS, and they were always trying to make her out as a superstar. You may recall as she was coming out of HS she railed about the fact that Paige received so much more attention since she was just as good as Paige. Right... Frankly, I don't even see HVL as WNBA material since she is pretty one-dimensional.
I think she transferred to LSU because she wanted to have what Caitlin Clark was having and she didn't think that would happen at Louisville. She is not CC. Never will be. Caitlin showed on Monday night what would happen to Hailey in the WNBA. HVL might get drafted in the WNBA by some team just wanting a quick ratings boost, but that would end quickly because HVL won't make it there and whatever fan base she has now will rapidly move on. Too short, too slow for the next level. Yes, she made a big mistake going to LSU.
Kim Mulkey definitely was out coached and should have made adjustments asap. Hailey van lifth was left to dry and like one of the ESPN analysts stated it was almost criminal. This poor girl didn’t have a chance and all they needed was someone to slow Clark down not stop here the game last year jasmine clark and Morris were able to disrupt her rhythm they made shots and that was the difference. She should definitely leave lsu and go somewhere else you could tell she wasn’t feeling the environment but had to take up for her teammates and endure these hardships if I’m here I’m headed anywhere but lsu so she can play the two position. This was so sad that I’m wondering if this was payback from Mulkey because van lifth was saying how they were dealing with some racial issues.
She got cooked on defense and did not shoot well in the Iowa game. Poa was better defensely, but got into foul trouble. Marrow need more touches on the block. No one could stop her.
Disappointed in Morrow. Her help defense was BAD. She could've helped HVL when Clark drove right by her for layups. But Morrow just stood there and watched.
@@jrod22986 I agree. As good as LSU was, I think they were not as cohesive and thus strong as the could have been due to tge obvious distractions. Paige vs Caitlin should be fire.
Regardless where you go in the wnba draft or how high or low you go doesn’t mean a damn thing in the wnba it’s either you can play or not let’s be honest
Yeah. If HVL can actually play at a WNBA level, she'll get there eventually. The problem is, she isn't athletic enough for the highest level, so it ain't gonna happen.
Reese walking back on defense giving up all those transition layups. Reese not hedging on the screens made all those 3's that much easier. Not playing big4 on CC instead of HVL was dumb. Soany coaching mistakes were made and Reese is just lazy on defense but oh yeah it's all HVL's fault. So many people with zero basketball knowledge posting up in here. Smh
She was terrible on defense. People shot over her and beat her on the dribble constantly. I think she is too small for the WNBA. I’m no expert but in watching her against Iowa she was blown away.
Lsu played great team defense at times. Haley and Williams were liabilities at times but thevreuth is HVL struggles on defense nothing new. Imo whatever draft stock she had at Louisville she still has today. She lost ground in the public eye bur as far as W scouts they are familiar with her game strength and weakness and I don't thinknshe had much draft stock in the 1st place. The W is not for the weak. Imagine the NBA had 12 teams, a lot of college guys now wouldn't get a look at all. You need an all around game to think about the W or at least dominate in something.
The play where Reece jumped in front to stop Clarke at basket and then got back to her man and blocked shot when Clark gave the dish was very impressive IMO. Prior to the ankle injury she was every where
5:00 Sometimes as a competitor you have to go to your coach and say, "Let me guard her! Have Hailey check someone else. I want to D-up their best player." Hailey said I'm out of here entering the portal.....
Kentucky and Kenny Brookes is getting all the bad ass girls at Kentucky. We had 3 transfers sign in one Day Now we have 3 5 star highschool girls. ON thier way to UK to check out the program
There was no improvement after Louisville exit. She thought she could win a championship with Angel and Flo and with Mulkey. Problem was she didn't live up to expectation. LSU should move on its rebuild season. Angel gone and that loss to Iowa set them back some. HVL overrated
I think she had an okay year given that she was new to the point guard position and playing on a team with other reliable scorers. It clearly showed in games that she is learning the position and is not a master of it. Her assists and steals stats are not what they should be but the lower points total from her last year at Louisville can be partly attributed to LSU highly-talented teammates doing most of the scoring and partly to a lower field goal percentage possibly induced by the challenge of the position switch and to better defenses on her so she wouldn't heat up in games. It is difficult for any rookies to make WNBA rosters due to only 144 roster spots. I think she would be drafted and signed but might not make roster and would end up playing overseas to resume development of her game so that in a year or few she can make a W roster and excel as a pro. If she elects to develop her game in college, she has opportunity to be a higher draft selection and make a roster next year but dependent upon how she does in that fifth year.
LSU was a good spot to prime her for preparing her game for the next level She’s a natural scorer and shines at the 2 but the reality is she would most likely be a 1 if pro
With the announcement for Reese declaring to WNBA … LSU needs to focus on PG and Center … Johnson Williams and Marrow will be fine but they need a 6’5 Big and a dominant point
This is the result of the portal. IOWA is dangerous due to nearly all the players on the court have been playing together for 3 plus season. That is like having another player on the court. HVL has been brainwashed into believing she is great and Caitlyn broke her ankles to prove how overrated she actually is. No WNBA team will draft her after that performance.
Except you made a little mistake. Poole was supposed to play point guard. Hailey was going to be shooting guard. Poole got suspended early and we lost Mya Smith the second game of the year. That put us down two players in the first 2 weeks. Also, Hailey has/had the flu, she had IVs before the game and at half time.
I think she absolutely made a mistake. She should've stayed at Louisville and tried to model her game after Kelsey Mitchell on the Indiana Fever as an undersized 2. She just doesn't have the court vision, ball handling, or decision making to be a PG full-time.
💯 agree and she doesn’t have the foot speed either to play defense but she has a solid game and she can definitely 💯 improve her game and her skill set
@@pauljorden2932 she can play defense, she just can't defend Caitlin Clark. For the most part, no one can 1v1
@@Hello_BeautifulPeople Kelsey Mitchell is way faster than HVL, and has a better shot and runs and finishes in transition at an elite level. Not so for Hailey.
HVL won't develop WNBA speed or quickness, and is not likely to fix her shot. Even if her shooting percentage improves next year, her low release and lack of jumping and athleticism mean she won't be able shoot off the dribble in the WNBA. And she'll never be a good defender or rebounder.
Hahahahaha, great minds think alike, you posted it before me but we see the same things when it comes to HVL.
She wanted an easy ring
I agree. I wondered why Mulkey took so long to make that defensive adjustment. It was clear that Flaujae was a better match up for Clark.
I still don’t understand how you have a 5’7” slow feet guard defending Caitlyn Clark when you have a great athletic long wing defender in Flau’jae. It blows my mind.
Clark knew how to draw fouls and Flaujae had too many to where even though she was better at defending Clark, she couldve gotten more fouls and foul out
Flaujae Johnson was scared to guard CC.nobody on lsu team could stop cc.😅😅😅😅😅😅
@taylorferguson28 I honestly think, Mulkey made the mistake of trying to actually protect Flau'jae from foul trouble. She felt she could play and still win if HVL gets in foul trouble and isn't on the floor, ((because she could play Poa and Flau'jae), but there's no wining scenario with no Flau'jae. It was a mistake.
@@AlexOttoFlau'jae didn't get her first foul until a loose ball foul going for an offensive rebound with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. But those are the type of fouls you CAN'T get (and Flau'jae is good for about 2 random, not smart fouls a game) and having the Caitlin Clark assignment, (which I still feel she should have had), and it was poor offensive strategy not having ANYONE threaten or attack Caitlin, and possibly get HER in foul trouble
Her liabilities was exposed. Leaving Louisville was a culture shock to her game, wide open offenses with passive defenses in the ACC, the SEC is different. I don’t know how she will learn to play defense in 1 year, unless Kim starts using zone defenses to protect her.
They can easily do what Iowa does. CC plays PG but she hardly ever guards the primary ball handler for the opposing team.
If lsu put flau'Jae on clark all game they win
@@datdude1021 Kim should’ve ran switches to make CC play defense, tire her out and her shooting % drops when she’s tired. The whole 4th quarter, Flaja should’ve been assigned to CC.
I disagree. She assimilated onto a championship team. Next year will be better.
@@AlexDrewsumin I agree, she hasn’t reached her potential, however Kim will have to adjust her defense around her liabilities. I don’t know why they didn’t play more zone to protect her.
i actually feel quite bad for hvl. kim mulkey set her up all year and this game was the worst of them all. putting hvl on caitlin was one thing but not even teaching your team how to properly hedge screens, communicate on switches, never go under screens with great shooters or get back on defense in transition (which hurt them the most) is just mind boggling incompetence on her part. also hvl is taking most of the brunt but had morrow, reese or williams hit their shots in the second half that was a very winnable game for them. no one is happier than kim mulkey that hvl transferred to lsu because she’s taking ALL the heat that should be mostly on kim right now
Good points, but HVL has to take responsibility for her terrible play. She couldn't hit open shots. Players she was guarding were going around her or shooting over her like she wasn't there.
Yeah, Kim Mulkey's decisions are so mind boggling, it's obvious the game was fixed!
@@jrod22986 she’s an undersized guard who has always been a traffic cone on defense even going back to her louisville days. it’s her coach’s responsibility to set up a good defensive game plan that doesn’t put your biggest defensive liability on the other teams best player. any other good coach would have hid hvl on gabby. hvl didn’t hit her shots and there was a lot of that to go around but that also falls on mulkey to slow her team down, run their sets and get good high percentage shots not chuck up 88 shots and pray
@@lexsea Good point. I would've switched off picks and ran double-teams at Clark all game to get the ball out of her hands. But again, you can't give HVL a pass. She played terrible ball all year and wouldn't have been in the starting lineup if Mulkey had better options. Remember, HVL averaged 11.6 points on 37.8% shooting and only 3.6 assists for the year.
@@iamgreatnow7218Shut up with that kind of crap, the game was not fixed. LSU got beat by a better Iowa team, that's it. Every time LSU loses at anything some of their pathetic and arrogant fans claim the game was fixed. This arrogant attitude is why LSU is so hated by everybody other than LSU fans.
Damn right she was a go to star at loui but at LSU she became a pass first guard. Her entire offensive game was crushed. She lost confidence in her game.
Probably should have either stayed where she was or gone somewhere else where the team would be built around her. She went to a Final Four and the elite8 with Louisville taking advantage of her strengths. This year she had her weakness exposed. Now she’s in the portal again and rather than a “super team “ she’s probably going to be looking for a showcase for herself
I don’t think Hailey has any spot in the WNBA right now after this year.. so she def has to go back to college. But can she ever repair her future??? I do not think so B2S
Hailey's problem as a WNBA 2-guard prospect is she doesn't have the athleticism and size, and her shot is only mediocre, and not likely to be fixed because of her weird low release. Even if she were to improve her shot, she still is slow, can't jump or rebound, can't defend at a WNBA level, and doesn't get separation with good moves.
Marina Mabrey is the model for a slow 2-guard who makes it in the WNBA (or Sabrina Ionescu), but Mabrey has a pro shooting form with high release and great range, is big, and has fantastic step-back and dribble moves. HVL has none of that.
Her only path would be as a point guard, where size is less important, but she doesn't have the speed and separation quickness and moves for playing point at the highest level, and her shot at range and finishing plus defense are still a problem.
HVL is not a serious WNBA prospect no matter where she goes.
Great take! HVL’s release is WAY too low! Her shooting elbow should be above the ear at release! Her shot is inconsistent and flat. Arc on her shot would make it more consistent. Release point at her eyebrow or better yet above her head would make her shot more potent!
@@marcusb.3038 her dad taught her that shot. Too bad. I've hated the form since I first saw it on her TH-cam workouts in high school with her dad.
@@charliedoyle7824 that was ok when she was in middle school grade school whenever that was. But by high school, college, she should have had her release point as high as possible. I’ve seen the clips of HVL and her pops practicing. He should have added the broom test. Come at her with a raised broom to challenge her shooting at the perimeter. That would have made her raise her set/release point. That would have also gave her game time adjustments on her shot. She could do that in the off season and increase her field goal percentages and 3 point percentages immensely! (Smh) She won’t have Angel Reese next year, she declared for the draft!
@@marcusb.3038 HVL should change her shot, but it's not so easy to shoot well in the first year with a new stroke. It would take a ton of smart work. But she won't change it anyway. I doubt she knows her shot is a problem.
This is an excellent take and unfortunately for HVL you are probably absolutely right. Marina is a great example
She absolutely does need a redemption season. I like HVL and feel for all the backlash she is receiving. She played like a "good" freshman this year. She has the fullest potential to be great, but she made avoidable critical errors that usually not seen by upper classmen.
You make a smart final assessment that HVL played like a “good” freshman. Never heard it framed that way…excellent analysis.
Unfortunately the expectation was for her to play like a star senior from the great 2020 class and the #1 player from the transfer portal.
Great point,I agree
I feel bad as well. The program just didnt fit her
How about simply remembering just how good Caitlin Clark is? I have been involved in basketball for 35+ years, and I think Hailey actually played pretty good defense on Clark - no one else has been able to stop her either. I do wonder why no one has tried double-teaming Clark (although her teammates are doing a great job of knocking down open 3’s) - it will be interesting to see what Geno Auriemma decides to do. Again, I think Van Lith played much better D than she is being given credit for - when someone’s repeatedly hitting 35-foot 3-pointers, it doesn’t mean that a defender is playing bad defense.
Yo that’s so true she did look like a freshman out there. Never thought of it like that before. Just struggling to integrate with the team and lacking confidence and still learning. Thats how she looked. What a huge mistake she made
Hvl shot was real good before this year. So was Mikaila Williams,, her shot went down hill ans she gained alot of weight and was out of condition.
Yeah, Hailey’s shot was well below her par.
Georgia is my fav college player. I was very nervous about Amoore coming back in any scenario. As great as she is, it’s going to be hard to keep her stock as high w/o an experienced Kitley to play off of. I’m afraid her stock may drop even if she goes to Kentucky w/ brooks as the known quantity. Clara Strack will prob transfer to Kentucky, but she is still early in dev. I thought Amoore should’ve declared b/c she’s international and she’ll be in a rebuild situation whether at va tech or Kentucky. Strike while the iron is hot.
maybe playing a year at kentucky will help her. she'll play more aggressive, defensively minded teams in the sec. but yes, its a roll of the dice. she too may get exposed. i wonder how many of these girls are seeing what happened with hailey and maybe questioning their preparedness for the next level? wnba def needs a g league.
1. Why didn't Mulkey put HVL(5'7l on Marshall (5'9)?
2. Transition of position. Remember when Shaylee Gonzalez struggled at PG when Harmon was out doing the (22-23). So when Harmon got hurt this season, he didn't put her at point. Vic Schaefer put Madison Booker as the primary point guard.
I agree much better matchup for her. And Marshall rarely puts it on the drop or really drives.
Yessss i was looking for a comment like this!! I couldn’t agree any more!! Shaylee is a better guard and so is hvl, no shame no shade no disrespect but sometimes you gotta stick w what you’re best at
@@daliasanchez3762 yeah, but shaylee just declared for wnba too and she's gonna be in for a rude awakening just like HVL!! i kinda think it was a blessing in disguise for hvl to come to lsu. she totally got a wake up call about her abilities. just like chennedy carter! this girl was the #1 draft pick in 2020 and wasnt even on a roster last year. the wnba can be very humbling. had hvl stayed at louisville, had a phenomenal season, entered the draft this year, then got cut, we'd all be wondering why she too didnt make a roster.
Yeah but it took him last season to figure that out, just like Mulkey. Mulkey had no choice but to stick with her at point because that was probably the biggest request HVL made in order to seal the deal. Mulkey shutting her down permanently would have down serious damage to her recruiting karma.
@@alanlee3236yea but at the end of the day HVL is a baller. If at the elite 8, and her coach says the game plan is for her to play off the ball. Against the same team that eliminated her in the final 4 last yr, I think she would do it. Ballers wanna ball AND win. HVL is very competitive. I think she would make the sacrifice.
She's 5'7, she was going to need point guard skills if she was serious about being a pro.
Figuring that out late in one's career isn't going to get it. I mean, I have no problem with HVL going for it by transferring to LSU so she can play pg, but that doesn't change it being a steep climb with little time.
Correct. HVL won't be a WNBA 2-guard. Not athletic enough, and she has a weird, mediocre shot, and not much in transition and defense.
She should still try to be a point next year, but it's not likely to impress the WNBA scouts. She's not quick enough. Points need to get separation and accelerate past defenders, otherwise they get trapped. She can dribble, but isn't a WNBA athlete.
If she wants a pro career, she'll be in Europe or Australia.
@@TheJhtlag HVL has another year in college to figure out the point, so she should go for it. Grace Berger figured out the point in one year at Indiana, and got drafted and was a decent rookie in the WNBA; she could do that because she's a good athlete.
HVL's problem is she isn't athletic enough for the WNBA at any position. If she were faster, she could be a good point guard with her dribbling. But speed is the hardest thing to improve.
@@charliedoyle7824 and Grace is a 6'1 guard
@@skyk1247 lots of WNBA guards are short: Courney Vandersloot, Moriah Jefferson, Aari McDonald, and lots more. They are all very fast. HVL is not.
Georgia Amoore is also good friends with some of the girls on Iowa. Iowa needs a one year point guard next year while developing their incoming freshmen class and she'd be able to shine in Bluder's offense
I will be amazed if Amoore does not follow Brooks to Kentucky.
@@RichardIILionheart I agree Kentucky is most likely where she's going. But if she is looking for a chance for something different for her final year, there are some big programs that would be a good fit.
The Oregon State coach - I forget his name- is a helluva coach.
Hailey might be paying the price of her dad being such a dominant figure in her life.
@@written12
Based on limited information, that certainly seems to be the case.
HVL should have stayed in Louisville
Van Lith needs to pursue her Finance career.Been getting COOKED by point guards all year.No handles or defense
Right she was getting worked
Absolutely! She's already earned her BA in 3 years at Louisville and is probably doing her Master's work now, she'll graduate with no student loans probably since she's been on scholarship, a nice little NIL bank account that's probably been invested wisely, and will probably enter the private sector with offers far higher than the $75k she'd get sitting on a bench in obscurity.... Hell, she could earn that teaching undergrad Finance as a college adjunct!
HVL has lots of handle, but not the speed or quickness, and the shooting technique her dad taught her is lousy. She can't accelerate past defenders off the dribble. Pretty much any college defender can stay in front of her, and she doesn't do much in transition. She's just too slow to play point at a high level, same with 2-guard.
If she wants to play pro ball, it'll be somewhere in Slovakia or whatever.
She'll has enough social capital to make the WNBA don't worry.
@@politicallil7060 social capital means nothing in the WNBA. She would be a joke on the court. No serious coach would put her out there regularly.
What strikes me about HVL as I've watched various videos is her work ethic and how much work she's put into becoming the player that she's become.
And yet under performs a lot for all the work.
She didn't make a mistake she CHOKED big time.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Love the energy in most of the comments. You guys really know the women’s game/players. Love to see it
It can get toxic at times but overall I think it is pretty good.
She tried to pull a KD and it backfired she was doing fine at Louisville
You comparing her to KD you don't know basketball at All
@@DexterFuqua it's true, she tried to chase an easy ring.
@@_M.... Hailey van lith straight dumpster juice
At Louisville the offense was built around her…and it was working. At lsu she was a (not very good) facilitator and it just didn’t work.
@@Purpledawg-d9s oh well she wanted to play Pg
She definitely needs to transfer there's no point in staying even if angel stays. It feels like they don't know how to use her or not even paying attention to her at all. UCLA is a good option for her since Osborne is leaving they have similar playstyle with LSU. Betts is a dominant big but unlike Reese she doesn't force as soon as they double Betts would often find open teammates. With HVL's shooting she can excel there she will have many opportunities to score.
The only thing that HVL has is her scoring ability to be precise its shooting whether it's mid range or 3. But LSU doesn't need that the team has 4 scorers that is not looking to pass the ball, she will never be a scorer in this team. It's evident early in the season that she will never be a great defender either. Quick guards will blow by her and taller players will shoot over her the only thing left is passing and playmaking. Which is impossible to achieve in 2 years she would be OK at it but not good enough to make it to the standard of WNBA. She needs a team that will allow her to take more shots to get her numbers up while learning other stuff if wants to get drafted.
Her shooting during the Iowa game was atrocious. She shot quite a few times but the only baskets she made were free throws. If she had made 1/2 of her shots, LSU would have won the game.
@@JT_70 It's not only during the Iowa game every round of the tournament it's the same bad shooting. I don't think it's her fault tho she was never talented to begin with. I think what made her a good shooter/player is hard work. The moment she switched to PG all her focus turned to playing like a traditional PG. Not a scoring PG but a pass first PG, if you play all season long not planning on scoring that will f up your game.
She was a terrible fit for this team, LSU doesn't need a player like her they need a pure PG that can defend. I feel like the coaching staff tried to teach her everything as fast as possible, effectively destroying her game.
@@JT_70 The Iowa game is just a highlight of the fact that they really don't know how to use her. She hit her shot early in that game and for a shooter that is big so they get into a rhythm. But she got benched because they screwed up the defensive assignment. She should've been guarding marshall not clark, that way she won't get exposed on D while trying to get her shots going.
yeah, youre right. ucla would be a good fit for her. especially since i think she really wants a ring too. and ucla will def be in the mix next year for a championship. cori close is a great coach. a couple of the ucla commits played in the mcdonald's all american game yesterday and looked pretty good.
If Angel doesn't return...Hailey better hit that portal fast...if not she's gonna get exposed even worse
We’re would she go she’s not starting lvl talent anymore
She has to comeback to college…not LSU though. It's not a good fit for both. Poa and Johnson can be developed more for PG and stay there longer. HVL needs to go back to her natural position as a small 2.
This is definitely the truth
EVERYBODY'S CLOWNIN. HVL. WHEN. POA GETS. A. PASSS_MAN. I. THOUGHT SYRUP WAS. SLOW AND. SHE'S DA. LIABILITY-WHO. DA. FUCK. GOES. UNDER. A. SCREEN PLAYIN. D_NOT. A. FRESHMAN ALRIGHT _DAMN MAKEUP. BABIES😮😮😮😮DOWN. NER- AND. MULKEY'S. BRAIN. IS SIDETRACKED. BY. SUMTHIN. SHE'S. EVOKED. OR WAS. SEEN OR. HEARD. SAYIN-NEVA SEEN. HER. DIS. NAKED. AT. COACHING STRATEGIES 😮😮😮
Hailey needs to look out for Hailey. The problems at LSU lay with Mulkey, not with Hailey.
Van Lilith needs to get out of LSU to start over literally, this season she was used by the team the wrong way above her game.
I'm so sorry for HVL because she has to wear the goat horns. But the tigers were never a great team and they were lucky to win last year they didn't have to play South Carolina in the final and Utah should have beaten them in the sweet 16.
Last season at Louisville she scored almost 20 points a game was terrific in the tournament and even went head-to-head with cc3 and did not get blown off the court she scored 27 points. She probably would have been an All-American this year maybe a third team All-American and Louisville probably would have been a top 10 caliber team. Now Hailey is going to be blamed for the subpar season for LSU.
I would love to see her transfer to Iowa and regain her scoring touch she could score 20 points a game there or more and the same with Hannah who will be a junior for the Hawkeyes. I just never got the feeling that Kim wanted hvl.
You don’t win a championship not being a good team. Too many if’s or should haves in your comments.
LSU fan- absolutely agreed but shouldn’t be a warning. Lex Morris transferred as a guard.
exactly, you take your chances.
It would have been a very tough challenge for anyone to guard Clark, but Hailey isn't really known for her defence. She's too slow to keep up with Clark. She didn't do that bad in the first half, but she didn't look as good in the second half.
As for the move itself to go to LSU, Kim coaches first to benefit the team, and would put individual player development second. So while there was an opportunity on paper for Hailey, it sort of makes sense that the season unfolded the way it did. It will be very difficult for her to be a point guard in the WNBA so maybe needs to re-evaluate things. I can see her continuing at LSU (if Kim wants her) or maybe leaving since I just get the feeling it's a bit toxic there. There's plenty of other good teams that would want her, and she would likely do well there, if she goes back into the transfer portal.
LSU isn’t toxic, but due to the attention and social media, we know more about the locker room than others. The issues we had are the same as other. However, the media heel vs babyface (LSU/Gamecocks vs Clark/UCLA) gives the toxic vibe. It’s overall good for WBB.
@@DisrespectfullyClassieMarcEBla I agree with you that LSU does get more attention than other programs. But there has definitely been stuff going on there that other programs don't go through.
Van Lith is 5'7" and Clark is 6ft. End of conversation really.
@@artdogg50 Yeah, big height difference. Although I think there was someone from West Virginia guarding her who was relatively short but really fast and they seemed to be as effective as anyone against her.
@@krbcan1569 I’ll concede that point
Mulkey was living vicariously through her and tried to relive he past.
Go in the portal. Go to Washington. Rediscover your love for basketball.
Very interesting. I like this unique take though it is unlikely.
GREAT VIDEO, B2S!! It is a HUGE warning!! She needs to tranfer elsewhere imo. I don’t know all the tranfer rules
There was no mistake in transferring to LSU. HVL wanted the heat and she got to play the best teams in the league. It's often worse before it gets better. For a team that was playing with only 7 players, they had a remarkable run. HVL style of play was not going to get her a place in WNBA. No one can develop into an elite point guard in one season while still having the pressure of defending a championship. She will be alright.
Reese just declared for the draft
I cried like a baby 🤣😭
Who cares??
@B2S: Another great topic…The Portal. Moving forward, it seems most fans expect more players to enter the portal, so I hope you decide to dedicate additional segments to it. Not only who is coming in and who is going out, but like this segment, how are these transfers doing in their new assignments. Thank you.
It won't matter HVL was in over her head in Baton Rouge she should hit the portal again
And it basically resets her game but this time I don’t think a top is taking her she ain’t good she don’t bring nothing good to the table I feel like she messed her career up going to LSU
I want her to come back. She has this year to learn and be a seasoned player on the team.
Yep that is the hope - she comes back and settles in better. Will be a better environment for development next year as not so much focus on LSU as Angel has left. This season did not work out but she took a chance and overall seems more happy than she was at Louisville so overall it is a win for her IMO.
Too late fer dat!
She needs to leave LSU to repair the damage and keep her legacy alive.
Transfering worked out well for Tehina Pao Pao and the gamecocks. She said in an interview, "they need me", and they did. If you transfer to where you are needed they I think it's a good fit.
The Washington Post article was a warning to Kim Mulkey to remember to throw the game OR ELSE. Putting HVL on CC for 30 minutes instead of FJ or POA was an indicator the fix was in. The media has too much invested in CC and need her to go to the championship for ratings revenues. While Poa was in the game and HVL sat the bench, the LSU lead extended. Once HVL was back on the floor, the lead dissipated. Angel Reese limping off the court to sit out, FJ's low energy in the first half, oh but can score at will just before a quarter ends and jump around, SUS! LSU took a dive. FJ and AR are too connected into the system at this point
and Mulkey can be controlled because she has probably got a lot of dirt hidden. Now let's watch and see if Geno does something boneheaded that makes no sense to lose the final four game, too.
They want Clark to win. No way they beat South Carolina fair and square
Conspiracy fantasist, that’s what you are.
Checking my watch to see when you will update about HVL going to the portal!
HVL is ring-chasing. She should have stayed at Louisville; they play her type of ball. By continuing to move around, she is devaluing her stock, potentially making herself look problematic and not a real team player.
If basketball don't work out for Hailey Van Lith, she definitely have a career in modeling or TV waiting.
She very easy on the eyes
Angel Reese declared for the draft. HVL will probably declare too. HVL graduated in three years, so how much school is enough? Is playing another year for Mulkey, when she showed zero improvement under her, going to prepare her better for the pros? If you want to improve for the pros, join the pros….. either the WNBA bench or overseas or both.
Agree that a move carries PLENTY uncertainty.
However, Stability is mainly dependent on the COACH & not so much the school. Hence, Amoore will be okay if she has the same coach.
HVL played very poorly in the game against Iowa.
Her performance was poor.
Oregon State will be in the weak Big 12 now. Beers and Gardiner should enter the portal as well. Go to a $uper conference (SEC or BigTen) while you can.
I think Oregon st will actually be in the weak west coast conference with Gonzaga now; not the big 12.
Can someone confirm or deny?
WCC. Everyone at Washington state and Oregon state may become available.
Beers could come to CT and be the experienced big they need
I just don't think she's WNBA ready. They going to eat her up
It don't matter she just wants to win she didn't make a mistake she just wants to be with a dominant team
She was the dominant player on a championship caliber squad and walked away. Now she’s in the portal again…chastened but wiser (I guess)
For all those who have negative comments about Haley let’s just say this, regardless, if she would’ve stayed at Louisville or transferred the exact same thing would’ve happened. When you stay somewhere where you’re comfortable and you know you’re perfect, you lack to see the areas you need to work on. It takes guts for any player to realize that if they wanna be pro gonna have to do something different. Angel did it, Alexis did it, Anisa did it, and so many more. If she would’ve stayed at Louisville and then tried to go pro, her rookie year would’ve been a disaster to say the least. Because she lacks skills in areas where she wasn’t able to train her perfect. The professional level is a rude awakening for so many players, who don’t have a diversified, skill set, and Haley was smart enough to know that she can’t only just be good at shooting the ball. Coming to LSU was not a mistake God works in mysterious ways. This was a year to challenge her for a year for her to reflect, and a year for her to see what she needs to work on. Y’all can judge her and be bullies online because you can’t say anything to her face, but the end of the day, her wallet still full, and she has a whole year to fix what went wrong for this year. she is braver than most and stronger than most to do what she did this year, but guess what she’s not gonna go into a pro league industry and look at the way she looked this year. No, she’ll come back next year, and she’ll be a very different player. I can guarantee that. And for all you haters out there who run your mouth and I’ve talk down to her negative way. Well, then be cheering for her and her biggest fans. Which is sad, that you tear somebody down because they had a bad year a year full of lessons is what it should be looked at. Though yet fans who choose to bully and destroy people online handmade a year to make this woman feel like she’s a failure, and that she should regret her decision. Remember the word you say and what you put out into the world. Because at the end of the day when this girl comes back and she makes her come back, you’ll be eating your words.
Tend to agree she took a chance and did not work out this season in terms of raising her wnba stock but overall she seems happy so it is a win for her. Hopefully she returns and her game develops. But respect that she took a risk.
I hate players that chase rings. Loyalty to your school counts.
College kids moving to a different school to improve career chances is not only normal but essential. Students head to Berkeley or Stanford or MIT to get this or that degree and work with the best and get more academic cred. Why wouldn't ball players do the same?
Loyalty to a school is silly if a player can do better and raise their profile elsewhere.
You don't know didly. While in high school she begged Geno to sign her to UCONN. Geno had two choices. He said the first one to sign got the scholarship. Paige signed first. HVL then went looking elsewhere.
Not sure what this msg is about but ok.
Iowa played a great game, but also LSU was poorly coached. Why is LSU jacking up threes when their inside game is so dominant. HVL should have gone to the bench and stayed there.
i mean, thats easy to say until you start getting calls for offensive fouls. the defensive team is gonna pick up on that eventually. the only person ive seen thats played that masterfully is AUDI CROOKS. she has total control of her body and knows when the opportunity is right to score or toss the ball back out. thats why she went 18/20 against maryland. angel's MO is to contort and toss her body into the defender in order to get fouls called. her goal is to hardly ever focus and actually MAKE the layup! she picks up so many unnecessary fouls this way. she didnt get alot of those calls this year and spent a ton of time on the floor, wait until she gets to the W....
I definitely agree with that, John.
We will hear from HVL and Angel sometime today. Players have 48 hrs after their season ends to declare.
Returning to lsu though… I thought she looked miserable there all season. Can she go into the portal again?
I don't get why everyone is blaming HVL for LSU's poor season and finish. Angel quit early in the season, missing a week or more. Obviously, turmoil present in the LSU ranks. Poor team defense evident with lack of all players. Home game refs allowed LSU post players' fouling go unchecked. Coach's poor decision to leave HVL to guard was Caitlin wasn't her fault.
I believe Mulkey knows HVL isn’t ready for the WNBA. She exposed HVL to all the WNBA scouts. She’s not effective as a point guard. She commits too many turnovers especially in crunch time and her handles as a PG are mediocre. When defenders pressure her she either picks up the dribble and stalls the play or she commits a turnover. I think Mulkey didn’t want to tell HVL she wasn’t ready for the next level instead she put her on the best player in Caitlyn to cement what she(Mulkey) knew the entire season. If she couldn’t guard Caitlyn, she wouldn’t be able to guard any player in the WNBA!
Mulkey knew what she was doing when she put HVL on CC.I guess C.C. said the same thing Larry Bird said when they put a white on him.
lol
She should've transferred to Iowa and played with Clark. Could have learned from the best.
She wanted to play starting PG
If she’d gone to Iowa she’d have been on the bench! Clark was the SG there and that wasn’t gonna change.
As a UCONN fan well both myself and Back 2 Sports are embarrassed on our predictions that USC would be beaten by USC🤣. Anyway we were both incorrect. Back 2 Sports here is a subject I would like to hear your take on, Kelly Graves has been able to recruit 1 recruiting classes at Oregon but then most of them leave either after their first or second yrs kinda leaving the program in tatters right now. What's your opinion on it.
Hailey is not very likeable at this time. She talks like she's an elite pick while her play doesn't quite match that status. On top of that, combined with the toxicity of the LSU culture, she was doomed to fail. Caitlin toasted her on every occasion and Mulkey had her sent to the bench within the first 3 minutes of the game. Hailey should press the re-set button and try the more humble approach to restore her "brand" which seems to be so important to young female athletes these days. Good luck !
She needs to enter the transfer portal to a program that fits her
I agree. She should have went to a program that actually develops their players. I've NVR seen a player under Kim develop skill wise.
She should have went to Ole Miss, USC, or Baylor.
She was all conference and honorable All American at Louisville so maybe she should have sat tight or gone somewhere else that would feature her.
She didnt make no mistake, shes just not good enough, you cant teach athleticism and shes no point guard and worse she cant defend her shadow if she tried. Stop making excuses for her because shes pretty
Going to the transfer portal is the worst thing she could do because no top team is taking her and she want to go to a championship caliber team considering it her last year and LSU will not be a championship caliber team without Reese they be like this year Tennessee next year
HVl said she was only doing 1 yar at LSU. BUt she has damaged her self, playing so poorly this year at LSU.
damn, i forgot about that! youre right. she may transfer again!
Kim did what she was told to do. Then had the nerve to praise the other player that she placed on a TALLER shooting expert.
It was like taking “free throws” for Clark. I feel sorry for that kid. She is a victim of politics.
The coach should resign. The fact she lied about didn’t realize the national anthem started is pure BS. The team has not stood for the national anthem in other games. Shame on her. Also she should teach her players sportsmanship. Let’s talk about Angel taunting Caitlin last year when Iowa lost well karma hurts. Caitlin when being disrespected did not respond. Personally I think this Angle thinks she’s it and she not. If she doesn’t change her attitude she’s going nowhere. It’s really sad when people don’t give Caitlin the respect she deserves.
How about, “It’s sad when people don’t give great players their respect.” PERIOD!
She did it to herself, she went to win, not to learn.
I posted many times this year that HVL is dramatically overrated and I got repeatedly attacked by LSU partisans, including some who have commented on this video. How are they all feeling about HVL now? She made that team worse every time she stepped on the court. Coming out of HS she had a very quick first step but added pounds have eroded her quickness. Now you are left with a slow, short guard who is not an elite shooter or passer, and is a poor defender. What does that add up to? DII level talent at best which is what she had on full display in the Iowa game. Any WNBA team picking her is absolutely wasting a draft choice.
I put the blame on LSU's coach, period. I have no issues with Hailey defending Clark, but once the Iowa pick came, why Coach M didn't have the weak side defender trap Clark to disrupt the offense would have been more effective. Even when Clark drove the lane, zero weak side help, that is coaching. On the offense, Reese, GIVE ME THE BALL. that made Hailey hesitant to shoot, even when she drove the lane, she was thinking pass first which killed her rhythm, That is coaching. Hailey gave maximum effort and was left on an island and she deserves none of the blame. Lastly, besides coaching. Reese has so many holes in her game, namely, she can't shot passed 8 feet, nor can she shoot foul shots. She didn't add to her game over the summer, so Iowa simply packed it in and dared LSU to score from the outside, but they was too busy forcing it in to Reese. That is bad coaching.
What you need to understand about sports is that players also need to be on form. HVL has not been on form all season. She should have been popping 20+ points a game and dictating the play 😢
Mullet cannot take all the blame for HVL’s generally unspectacular play this year. Since she was learning a different position, she might get some breaks, but it was too little and too late.
Mulkey
Yeah but it’s gonna be very hard because the improvements she’s gonna have to make is very substantial. She is gonna have to be dramatically more efficient as a shooter and a scorer. I think that’s possible but requires full commitment and dedication. As a pg she’s missing timing and that is hard to develop but even more so within a dynamic game like basketball
Yeah Mulkey actually had one of her worst coaching performances. Hailey Van Lith their worst defender on a generational player. single coverage. No blitz. No hedging. Yikes.
HVL doesn't have the court vision, at this point, to be a PG. She also lacks elite quickness and speed which in today's game is nearly a prerequisite to be a PG at a top level college or in the WNBA.
Yep. And she can't jump, and her shot is a low release and not very good.
She's a long way from being a serious WNBA prospect.
She'll likely be a 3rd round pick and cut after a week in camp when she is done with college.
Her biggest problem is she was never hungry to begin with. As much as I dislike Angel Reese, at least she was hungry. At least that woman had fight in her. That said, Hailey Van Lith only joined them because she thought it would be her fast track to getting a championship. If she does return, I hope losing this game to Iowa (and for her second year in a row) fuels a fire in the pit of her stomach. I hope she works on her game this summer and stays off of social media.
Yes it looks like she made a mistake, however, I love people who bet on themselves bc if you don't who else is gonna but sometimes it can go wrong as it did in her case. She just doesn't have PG instincts and has never taken playing D seriously. But I still feel bad for her although like you said she brought it all on herself with all of the crazy interviews she did. Btw I agree with you matching her up with Caitlin Clark really killed her prospects. Sadly for her Angel Reece has already declared for the WNBA earlier today.
Agree with all of that Calvin. I really like that she took a chance but that interview really set her up as she is an easy target to hate as she is attractive, smart and confident and people are jealous of her. And then Kim did her no favours by putting her on CC IMO. Yep appears Angel declared while I was sleeping so video dated in less than 4 hours.
@@back2sports Totally agree with you bro!!
HVL has no chance against a 6' Caitlyn Clark and maybe not even a 5'7" Caitlyn Clark, too slow.
I agree she clearly made a mistake. However, I would be careful about using her as a case study or comp since she was somewhat of an anomaly in many ways -- not least of which was her tendency to overestimate how good she was. As you pointed out, she and her dad did a ton of self-promotion even in HS, and they were always trying to make her out as a superstar. You may recall as she was coming out of HS she railed about the fact that Paige received so much more attention since she was just as good as Paige. Right... Frankly, I don't even see HVL as WNBA material since she is pretty one-dimensional.
I think she transferred to LSU because she wanted to have what Caitlin Clark was having and she didn't think that would happen at Louisville. She is not CC. Never will be. Caitlin showed on Monday night what would happen to Hailey in the WNBA. HVL might get drafted in the WNBA by some team just wanting a quick ratings boost, but that would end quickly because HVL won't make it there and whatever fan base she has now will rapidly move on. Too short, too slow for the next level. Yes, she made a big mistake going to LSU.
Kim Mulkey definitely was out coached and should have made adjustments asap. Hailey van lifth was left to dry and like one of the ESPN analysts stated it was almost criminal. This poor girl didn’t have a chance and all they needed was someone to slow Clark down not stop here the game last year jasmine clark and Morris were able to disrupt her rhythm they made shots and that was the difference. She should definitely leave lsu and go somewhere else you could tell she wasn’t feeling the environment but had to take up for her teammates and endure these hardships if I’m here I’m headed anywhere but lsu so she can play the two position. This was so sad that I’m wondering if this was payback from Mulkey because van lifth was saying how they were dealing with some racial issues.
She got cooked on defense and did not shoot well in the Iowa game. Poa was better defensely, but got into foul trouble.
Marrow need more touches on the block. No one could stop her.
Disappointed in Morrow. Her help defense was BAD. She could've helped HVL when Clark drove right by her for layups. But Morrow just stood there and watched.
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I agree.
As good as LSU was, I think they were not as cohesive and thus strong as the could have been due to tge obvious distractions.
Paige vs Caitlin should be fire.
Regardless where you go in the wnba draft or how high or low you go doesn’t mean a damn thing in the wnba it’s either you can play or not let’s be honest
Yeah. If HVL can actually play at a WNBA level, she'll get there eventually.
The problem is, she isn't athletic enough for the highest level, so it ain't gonna happen.
Reese walking back on defense giving up all those transition layups. Reese not hedging on the screens made all those 3's that much easier. Not playing big4 on CC instead of HVL was dumb. Soany coaching mistakes were made and Reese is just lazy on defense but oh yeah it's all HVL's fault. So many people with zero basketball knowledge posting up in here. Smh
I agree, she got exposed
Reece has announced that she is entering the WNBA draft, so...
She was terrible on defense. People shot over her and beat her on the dribble constantly. I think she is too small for the WNBA. I’m no expert but in watching her against Iowa she was blown away.
Mulkey set Hailey up for failure against Clark. Unfortunately Hailey is too short...and Hailey has more of a female body type than Clark...
Trying to chase a championship by being a team jumper, her stock went way down!
Hailey van lith is the weak link on LSU
BS. 😂😂😂 LSU just couldn’t stop Caitlin Clark because of Kim’s strategy. Caitlin is 6,0 and HVL is smaller than her
So many excuses for overall mediocre performances from HVL.
Lsu played great team defense at times. Haley and Williams were liabilities at times but thevreuth is HVL struggles on defense nothing new. Imo whatever draft stock she had at Louisville she still has today. She lost ground in the public eye bur as far as W scouts they are familiar with her game strength and weakness and I don't thinknshe had much draft stock in the 1st place. The W is not for the weak. Imagine the NBA had 12 teams, a lot of college guys now wouldn't get a look at all. You need an all around game to think about the W or at least dominate in something.
The play where Reece jumped in front to stop Clarke at basket and then got back to her man and blocked shot when Clark gave the dish was very impressive IMO. Prior to the ankle injury she was every where
She chase an championship, and came up short.
5:00 Sometimes as a competitor you have to go to your coach and say, "Let me guard her! Have Hailey check someone else. I want to D-up their best player." Hailey said I'm out of here entering the portal.....
Kentucky and Kenny Brookes is getting all the bad ass girls at Kentucky. We had 3 transfers sign in one Day
Now we have 3 5 star highschool girls. ON thier way to UK to check out the program
I think it's the shoes ⛹️♀️👟👟🏀 Caitlin Clark had the Kobe shoes 🤫
Got to be the shoes
Spike Lee approves!
Yeah keep the faith Haily I’ve lost faith in LSU as an American how can anyone support this ! Get to a place that supports you girl!
There was no improvement after Louisville exit. She thought she could win a championship with Angel and Flo and with Mulkey. Problem was she didn't live up to expectation. LSU should move on its rebuild season. Angel gone and that loss to Iowa set them back some. HVL overrated
I think she had an okay year given that she was new to the point guard position and playing on a team with other reliable scorers. It clearly showed in games that she is learning the position and is not a master of it. Her assists and steals stats are not what they should be but the lower points total from her last year at Louisville can be partly attributed to LSU highly-talented teammates doing most of the scoring and partly to a lower field goal percentage possibly induced by the challenge of the position switch and to better defenses on her so she wouldn't heat up in games.
It is difficult for any rookies to make WNBA rosters due to only 144 roster spots. I think she would be drafted and signed but might not make roster and would end up playing overseas to resume development of her game so that in a year or few she can make a W roster and excel as a pro. If she elects to develop her game in college, she has opportunity to be a higher draft selection and make a roster next year but dependent upon how she does in that fifth year.
LSU was a good spot to prime her for preparing her game for the next level
She’s a natural scorer and shines at the 2 but the reality is she would most likely be a 1 if pro
With the announcement for Reese declaring to WNBA … LSU needs to focus on PG and Center … Johnson Williams and Marrow will be fine but they need a 6’5 Big and a dominant point
jersey's coming! she's 6'5. and big. and a point. 😁
This is the result of the portal. IOWA is dangerous due to nearly all the players on the court have been playing together for 3 plus season. That is like having another player on the court. HVL has been brainwashed into believing she is great and Caitlyn broke her ankles to prove how overrated she actually is. No WNBA team will draft her after that performance.
Except you made a little mistake. Poole was supposed to play point guard. Hailey was going to be shooting guard. Poole got suspended early and we lost Mya Smith the second game of the year. That put us down two players in the first 2 weeks. Also, Hailey has/had the flu, she had IVs before the game and at half time.
Please don’t return to LSU unless coming off the bench !
She’s not coming off the bench LSU has no depth 💀😭😅😅
Georgia A has committed to Kentucky...along with two of her team mates.
I can see HVL going to play for Texas. When Harmon comes back she and Booker could both go back to playing their true positions.
That’s the problem she doesn’t want to be a SG she’s wants to be a PG obviously starting
When is the Iowa vs UCONN review coming? I'm predicting my UCONN will lose.
Tonight! - ice and Q are big keys IMO.
@@back2sports Haha...haha