Avoid a Fire Hazard - Anet A8 Safety Upgrades

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  • Cheap, DIY 3D printers can pose a significant fire and safety hazard if not used with extreme caution. Bill shows off the safety upgrades he's made to this machine so that he can print his helmet with confidence.
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  • @Theexplorographer
    @Theexplorographer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    While I wholly agree with your upgrades so far..I think you are dismissing an important part of this printer. The learning factor. When I first started in 3D printing, the a8 was my printer. By doing the assembly myself, printing upgrades (a lot of which are over-engineered and un-needed), and upgrading hardware, I learned so much. So much so that you can't effectively put a dollar value on it. Now with my more expensive printers, when something goes wrong, I know right were to look, troubleshoot and fix. If it weren't for the road traveled on the a8, I would know nothing. And the fact is, my a8 is so good now, printers that cost 10x as much do not print as well or as reliably.

    • @GaryLaaks1
      @GaryLaaks1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You make a valid point. I have upgraded my A8 with mosfets and done the heater bed soldering with zip tie to keep wiring safe. Works like a boss. Love my little A8. 3d printing is not a perfect technology but with some troubleshooting you can come close. I added a PC power supply fan to my original power supply. It keeps it nice and cool.

    • @JohnSmith-ws7fq
      @JohnSmith-ws7fq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you want your kids learning from a printer like this with exposed mains voltage? It's inexcusable for a consumer product to be sold like this. All high voltage mains should be enclosed and grounded. I'm pretty sure this breaches electrical safety regulations in most developed countries.

    • @littlepastelkitten
      @littlepastelkitten 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnSmith-ws7fq i learned from the a8 not to touch any power outputs though its not like I already knew that

  • @jethrobodeen7794
    @jethrobodeen7794 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. One suggestion, when you solder the wires directly to the bed you can do it so they are pointing toward the middle. Then you can ziptie them to the H frame and you have nothing coming out the side at all and wire management is easier.

  • @derickchapman6451
    @derickchapman6451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    like the tape idea for mounting holes

  • @jessthered9942
    @jessthered9942 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate not only the very VERY detailed lists of links and parts, but your attitude and speaking voice. You are both very entertaining and very informative. Thank you!

  • @garrykennedy5484
    @garrykennedy5484 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love a video that focuses on safety first! Thank you so much. I bought a different PS for mine at the same time I ordered it. Plus a MOSFET for the heat bed. OH,, I still need the fused power switch.

  • @PaulWilliams-bo6oh
    @PaulWilliams-bo6oh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video. You show what the safety parts are, why they are important, and how to do them. I will make these safety upgrades to my printer and room now. The parts lists is very helpful too because it takes a lot of time hunting these parts. Thanks a million. Job well done.

  • @ian3314
    @ian3314 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Really looking forward to the old man Logan claws part 2. Keep up the good work!

  • @Saitekchriss
    @Saitekchriss 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this video! I couldn't find anywhere on the entirety of the internets that showed the proper connections for the 3d printer power switch :D! I really appreciate it!

  • @noyiian6734
    @noyiian6734 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Firmware upgrade should be first thing you should ever do. Marlin or skynet, anything but the stock firmware due to thermal runaway protection being disabled.

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      indeed

    • @chrishamlet3470
      @chrishamlet3470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally agree, second should be throw the stock psu away and fit a high quality branded one not a shit Chinese firebomb

    • @mikenewman4078
      @mikenewman4078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      First thing after enclosing the live input terminals at the power supply, especially in 240 VAC markets.

  • @seanackerson4791
    @seanackerson4791 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bill, thanks for designing the PSU/Switch cover. It is the first thing I printed. Also thanks for the link to the stronger power supply which I ordered for my A8 and attached instead of the provided one.

  • @EnnTomi1
    @EnnTomi1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    its a great printer to start with. really good value, and decent print on day one, with ultra low price.

  • @therealpanse
    @therealpanse 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the STL of the switch cover. One of the most useful things to add to this printer. You might wanna look into the AM8 mod. It makes this Printer so versatile, with the newest Marlin upgrade it's almost a mk3 (just looking at speeds). Maybe with a few versions of marlin, it might get there.

  • @Ghostdog82k
    @Ghostdog82k 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 2 A8s. My son and I built. I don't mind running my overnight. They do have a few needed safety upgrade but they were minor fixes from my point of view. I really enjoy the channel and love that you do honest clear reviews and build lime this. I'm confortable with our printer setups cause I have 20 years experience in the engineering field. This was a pretty simple project from my standpoint. I think that's where a big issue lies. I see a lot of folks on the forums in over the head with these kits. You really need at least a novice electronis skill level and understanding to be working on these things.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent insight, Charles! I'm definitely a novice when it comes to electronics. I'm learning a lot with this project. =D

  • @G1TechDotOrg
    @G1TechDotOrg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for video! does you bed heats up to 120C ?

  • @benphillips2947
    @benphillips2947 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the PSU you linked in the description. I'd been using the out-of-box one on my stock A8 for over a year and this works essentially the same, except this one doesn't spark at the plug every time I plug it in now. I don't think I'm gonna install the switch though. I'm content with just yanking the cord to shut it down, cause it gives me peace of mind knowing it's completely cut off from it's power source when I'm not using it.

  • @groundcontrolto
    @groundcontrolto 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fully agree about putting a value on your own time, definitely helps making decisions about whether to make/buy or whether it's worth spending ages shopping around for a small discount.

  • @tunnelcat4592
    @tunnelcat4592 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a coincidence! My brother has the same printer and the connector for the heating element under the buildplate melted itself off yesterday. Good choice soldering yours.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy crap! So glad I fixed mine.

  • @BigAdam2050
    @BigAdam2050 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I've been following along, got me an A8, stuck a mosfet on, etc.
    So far, I'm finding it a good learning experience. Few bits and bobs I want to do, want to add a tensioner here and there ,and maybe an aluminium front (holds the belt and rods).
    Its fun.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been learning (and swearing) a LOT!

  • @leeo.alexander2324
    @leeo.alexander2324 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have done the same upgrades to my CTC Prusa i3 Clone, not a Geetech or A8, but very cheap. I even took the internal fan off of the power supply and put an 80mm fan on the outside of the power supply case. I modified the power supply cover and opened the area up to accommodate the fan shroud. The fan is connected to the 12vdc and it runs continuously with no noise. Plus I don't see myself printing anything that I have to be away from it. And I don't print while I am asleep at night. I also have two MOSFETs, one for the hotbed and one for the hotend. I have not gotten into the CAD side yet to design my own items yet. That is next. I have a few CAD applications that I am looking at to see which one best suits me, for ease of use and affordability. Keep expounding on safety, my wife does all the time.

  • @deltadesignllc665
    @deltadesignllc665 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using this video as reference at least a dozen times trying to upgrade my Anet. It's extremely helpful! I'm running into an issue with the power supply cover file. It seems to be the screw hole is 7mm short for the wiring to be roomy enough for both the fuse switch wiring and the power terminal connections. I sent a comment on Thingverse.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My PSU cover is designed specifically for the power supply and fused switch that I used. It's possible that you have different parts.

  • @Bajicoy
    @Bajicoy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never heard of comparing a printer with a toaster, great point!

  • @thehappyextruder7178
    @thehappyextruder7178 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video ! fire safety is a reality among alll 3d Printers !!!

  • @JoeBLOWFHB
    @JoeBLOWFHB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In addition to the upgrades I use an AFO Auto Fire Out automatic fire extingusher ball. They run about $40 on Amazon.

  • @Wheel333
    @Wheel333 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, thanks.

  • @jedizero2
    @jedizero2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be getting my CR-10 early next year, hopefully. Can't wait :D

  • @Nibb31
    @Nibb31 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got a new Anet A8 and it seems that the hotbed connector has been upgraded. It now uses thicker prongs and the kit now runs two + and two - wires between the board and the hotbed.

  • @sniffle23
    @sniffle23 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video. Way too often safety is ignored on 3d printers especially when you start talking cheap 3d printers. It's nice to see

  • @Model3DEvan
    @Model3DEvan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video!

  • @charliebowen4232
    @charliebowen4232 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Bill, Welcome to the Anet experience! I also have an A8, and it is my first printer. It is a tinker's tool! Awesome when it works... annoying (polite version) when it doesn't!
    Great source for upgrade videos is Nillabean & 3D Make Noob! Both have one, and show very useful upgrades...
    My next printers (addictive like tattoos) are the Kossel and CR-10...
    Have a great day!

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing. I'm excited to dive into more of the upgrades on this machine.

    • @charliebowen4232
      @charliebowen4232 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Punished Props - the best is when you can see the difference in your prints...

  • @curtisburgess3044
    @curtisburgess3044 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great and helpful video! I would highly recommend a genuine Mean well supply if you have the money. I have found that many of the cheap psu's don't last very long because of bad components and poor heat regulation. A good psu can make all the difference!

  • @isaacpopp
    @isaacpopp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My A8 hot end connector on the board was charred last week. Yikes.
    I didn't even know until it stopped extruding.
    I ripped it off and direct soldered the wires.
    The power switch addition was the first I did after I bought the printer and can't believe that feature isn't standard.
    Stay safe!

  • @ryanthomas830
    @ryanthomas830 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    POWER SUPPLY: If you're upgrading yours like the one in the video. Please read this so I can save you some additional frustration. Learn from my mistakes! ;)
    1) When you're looking at the position of the current power supply, the new on will have to be mounted closer towards the front of the A8, in order for the power switch cover to clear the frame bracket on the bottom back edge. I tried keeping the position of the top left screw hole already in the frame from the current power supply so I only had to drill 2 new ones on the bottom, only to assemble and realize I *****ed up.
    2) Don't take short cuts if you want to avoid frustration.... measure twice, cut once!! The tape-hole seems like a good idea, but it's risky since the tape stretches and curls slightly when you pull it off. I highly recommend using an "L" shaped measuring tool to measure the new power supply hole locations because It'll be more accurate, and you'll want to make sure it's mounted perfectly straight and at the right height (Very important for power switch cover to sit properly)

  • @chibanix1347
    @chibanix1347 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i made the same calculation for my anet a8 but i learn so much it was really worth for me so for me with the kit you learn a lot and its fun (1 am 62) and i prefer to build my tools

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can confirm that I am learning a lot.

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your screws holding the LCD in are backwards. the head should be on the same side as the LCD. I don't think it matter but it might look better? but that's an opinion not a fact.
    As for other safety tips: Change out the power wires to the heated bed for 12 or 14 gauge silicone insulated wire and run that to the mosfet. I also used some high temp hot glue and covered the solder joints but that wasn't 100% necessary. You can also flash the firmware to either stock merlin or skynet (I use skynet) This will add thermal runaway protection.
    For print quality: Change the bearings to lm8uu igus drylin bearings/bushings. Get some new belts and toothed idler pulleys. But if I recall you did all this but the toothed idlers.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I realized I put them in the wrong way during assembly, but it doesn't matter to the functionality.
      Good tips, thanks!

  • @PinBallReviewerRepairs
    @PinBallReviewerRepairs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the hotbed is there a better disconnect then the one that comes stock on it?
    I know with pinball machines they tried coming out with better connectors due to some connectors melting down.
    I just hate having wires like that hard wired onto my hotbed.
    Not that it is a temporary fix though to get the hotbed working again though.

  • @pedro11154
    @pedro11154 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I just soldered the wires to the hotbed. I did not check for the resistance between pins before I took the connector off. I was wondering if it is normal to get low resistance (1- 2 ohms) between the "+" and the "-"? I verified that it's not shorting through the metal platform. But I am still iffy about it because some of the insulation got ripped off when I pulled the connector. It would be helpful for me to know that this resistance between those pins is normal. Thank you!

  • @benshortgames1355
    @benshortgames1355 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your vids

  • @redline6871
    @redline6871 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going to do the a6 as i have never used a 3d printer but i have my hobby I like rc cars and trucks.I like the soldering the bed wires but with the heat couldn't you just stick a external fan back there to keep the heat down? and if your not using the printer just unplug it?

  • @snouty2005
    @snouty2005 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's very interesting. I was about to do a video about low cost 3D printers for MTE but this has given me reason to pause. After all you've been through getting this up to spec, (and we thank you for your sacrifice :) ) what WOULD your recommended first 3D printer for prop making be?

  • @mythyc9604
    @mythyc9604 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Sir :D

  • @asicdathens
    @asicdathens 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One suggestion, since I'm doing something similar with an P3Steel , use fire retardant filament for the power supply cover. I also use an auto-shut relay (MKS PWC) that can kill the AC power to the printer if something goes wrong or when print finishes or when the emergency stop is pressed.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the suggestions. =D

    • @asicdathens
      @asicdathens 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thank you for the props stuff you're uploading online - much more interesting. The reason I went for the ultra cautious route is I stay alone and I do not want to torch my apartment when I'm at work.

  • @tbhinteractieve
    @tbhinteractieve 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started with the wanhao duplicator i3 and til this day I still use the same thing 3 years later. I did change all the stepper drivers, control board, wiring, extruders..... okay the frame is the only original thing left 😅 great video regarding safety btw

    • @danf4778
      @danf4778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sounds like my ender

  • @timoholmes6022
    @timoholmes6022 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally love my A8, especially the endless possibilities to upgrade it with 3d print or buy new stuff. Yeah sure there are safety issue, but they can be fixed and they are not that expensive. (MOSFET +power supply for around 30€). The manufacturer also upgraded the plug on the head bed I think. It seems a bit sturdier so now it seems not mandatory anymore.

  • @quindurkin7339
    @quindurkin7339 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is a great video can't wait for the next one.

  • @anthonyzdavis
    @anthonyzdavis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the Anet A8 kit already come without an auto-leveling sensor, or did you remove it to later replace it with an endstop switch?

  • @Andrewjasonlee
    @Andrewjasonlee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bill. Last week, my similar kit's ramps board caught on fire while I was sitting next to it (thankfully). It was a hictop i3 clone from amazon. I did do a bit of safety upgrades when I built it initially. I upgraded the power supply to a 30 amp 12VDC power supply that looks very similar to what you got. I also upgraded the wires from power supply to ramps board to 12 gauge silicone insulated wire. Also used the same silicone 12 gauge directly soldered to heated bed to ramps board. From what I can surmise, the poor design of the ramps board by hictop had a transistor with a heat sink directly touching the power input screw down terminal. This and the inadequate amperage rating on the screw down terminal
    Led to the power input screw down terminal melting and shorting out causing a flame up and then caught the abs 3d printed enclosure around the ramps board ( which I’ll never print and use one again). Also probably needs a mosfet for the heated bed. Which I just bought. I replaced my ramps board with a BIQU mks base 1.5 board from amazon for $38 .

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy crap! The danger is real. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ZaPpaul
    @ZaPpaul 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The PSU of the standard A8 is perfectly fine and does not pose a risk at all. I have over 2000 hours on mine and have no intention of replacing it. There are 0 instances of them catching fire, but plenty of stories with no sources. The A8 printers that have caught fire were on the mainboard and not the PSU at all. Buying a higher amp PSU is fine, but certainly not a safety issue.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the input!

    • @sethkrumm3302
      @sethkrumm3302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ZaPpaul Yea, I've never heard of the PSU catching fire. It's always the mainboard as they're rarely rated for a high enough voltage on these cheap printers...

    • @mrlucbier
      @mrlucbier 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      most of the fires are indeed from the mainboard because people just screw the stripped "naked" wires in there directly without a crimp connector

    • @joshuarouault7030
      @joshuarouault7030 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think one time someone's hot bed connector melted, which then the wires were free and one ground wire was touching the plate.

    • @giannagiavelli5098
      @giannagiavelli5098 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you recoment what to use on amazon?

  • @wsoeltkakd
    @wsoeltkakd 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question - when you replaced the power supply switch, what did you do for the cord to power it? did you just switch to a regular computer PSU? or did you hard wire the old cord to the poles of the outside of the switch?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used a normal power cord from a computer. That plugs into the fused power switch which was wired to the new power supply.

    • @wsoeltkakd
      @wsoeltkakd 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      perfect that answers my question.

  • @DragonslayerBob
    @DragonslayerBob 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I should really get to resoldering mine... The bed heater's been ok for a month in the 'pointing backwards' direction, but better safe than sorry!

  • @rhythmrainbow
    @rhythmrainbow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is need-to-know info right here, even if you don't have or use a 3D printer.

  • @danieldimitri6133
    @danieldimitri6133 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you notice the bed has 2 positive heater leads and 2 negative. it is likely that the bed has 2 coils for heating. i made these mods to my a6 but didn't have a multimeter on hand to check if they are 2 heaters, or just additional pins for current handling that anet decided not to use. that all said the stock connector is crap and a fire hazard so it was certainly correct to get rid of it. when i did the mod i soldered new 14 gauge silicone power wires and i used the wire and solder to bridge to second positive and negative pins on the board. in stock form i was lucky to get 96deg C and had visible burn marks in the plastic of the connector and now i easily hit the 115degree cap set in my recompiled firmware. (not sure what anet had as a limit). of course this is with an external mosfet. i happened to purchase an identical power supply and fused switch to yours and will print your cover out of petg. thanks for the video and the cad files.

  • @SurealMusic
    @SurealMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Old man bill with the long beard! hahah good video I have a cr 10 coming in. so I might use some of these tips

  • @scottdodd7354
    @scottdodd7354 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos. So I am letting you know that when it comes to wiring on a safety video, I have to let you know that never trust color coding on electrical builds. On my Anet A8, I found the wiring of the power supply to be at fault. Will it work YES, is it safe NO. Ifr you look at an electrical outlet, you will see the ground (small half round hole) on the bottom, the nuetral (large blade hole) on the left and the positive or L (small blade on the right). Holding the power cable (that came with the printer) to match the receptacle, I found the BLUE wire was the NUETRAL, trhe BROWN wire was the L or POSITIVE and the YELLOW w/GREEN tracer was the GROUND. This is needed for SAFETY not for operation. The machine doesnt care if the NUETRAL and the LINE (POSITIVE) are reversed. You will care if you touch the wrong part if the wires are reversed. Think about a lamp socket. The threaded portion and the little flange at the bottom. These are where you connect the N and the L. If you reversed the L and N you will get shocked. The threaded socket is the nuetral and the little flange flange is the line (positive). Please share this as all of the videos I have seen use the color code as a means for connecting the wires. For a safety video everyone has forgotten about safety here in the USA.....

  • @koaasst
    @koaasst 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just threw the original wire in the trash cause it seems way too small. ill get some better wire. those original wires are about good enough to run old school christmas tree lights, and how many houses have they burned down in the last 50 years lol! anywho, love watching y'alls vids, has helped me get my machine up and running.

  • @aurelf3158
    @aurelf3158 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    about the last scene /i am using a glass bed 2 mm ,heating before at 80 degree celsius ,and then start the print .no problems.about the mosfet ,i don t know if its working ... a good whiring is a must do

  • @YTHakan
    @YTHakan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    *You are best maker*

  • @GlassShark86
    @GlassShark86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was the purpose of turning the heating plate so the wires came out of the left side instead of the back? Working on my upgrades.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was so I could attach the Y-Axis drag chain to that side of the bed.

    • @saintjameslights
      @saintjameslights 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I was trying to figure this out myself.

  • @DrUSB1
    @DrUSB1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yep, classic example of why cheap is not always good. That why i got my eye on the Pursa Mk2, no nasty exposed power terminals from the mains where its twice the voltage and current in the UK than US. Whats better?, spending more money on safe quality or a coffin? Love your craftsmanship Bill and Brittany, stay safe :)

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone I know with the Prusa i3 MK2 loves it!

    • @AlbertoMartinez765
      @AlbertoMartinez765 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I'm going to save money on a super cheap printer then spend more money and time replace half the part and rewiring it!!!!!! Just Pay the 30 bucks more and get a better printer.

    • @Pijawek
      @Pijawek 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlbertoMartinez765 replacing parts and troubleshooting is half the fun though ;)

    • @PhilXavierSierraJones
      @PhilXavierSierraJones 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem with Prusa printer is that they are prohibitively expensive, especially when shipping outside of US and Germany.

  • @Valandar2
    @Valandar2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about a cage for the exposed circuit board, to prevent accidental zaps and perhaps even furball accidents?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's probably a good idea.

  • @lasarith2
    @lasarith2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you seen the CR-10 printer, it looks really good 🤔🙂

    • @JohnCraighead
      @JohnCraighead 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that the one that is i3 w/ aluminum frame? Runs about 500ish? I think that might be my second one.
      Ether that or I'll get a photo resin but thats very pricy.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I sure have, it is mighty tempting!

    • @lasarith2
      @lasarith2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Punished Props Aye 😉

  • @evlsc400
    @evlsc400 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @8:07 that squared nozzle installation job though.... lol

  • @michaelwuchitech7598
    @michaelwuchitech7598 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thermal runaway is disabled by default (a BIG safety issue). There is a version of the Marlin firmware for Anet printers to correct this

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a fantastic tip, I had no idea. Thanks!

    • @michaelwuchitech7598
      @michaelwuchitech7598 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      github.com/pedromreis/Skynet3d
      Facebook Group : github.com/pedromreis/Skynet3d

  • @NZSpides
    @NZSpides 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would consider upgrading the gauge of the cable running from the powersupply to the mosfet to the bed. Make it a thicker wire, this will decrease the heat time and reduce the chance of the wire's insulation melting.
    Also the cooling fan on the power supply you have bought is likely running all the time, if so, look into adding a thermistat to the powersupply, its easy ans reduces that horrible fan noise all the time..

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good tips! It looks like the fan on the power supply turns itself on and off when needed.

    • @NZSpides
      @NZSpides 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It looks like you got the 'more expensive' model than the one I did. It didn't have the thermal sensor on it. I added one and now the only annoying fan is the one I added myself, have to work on that.... :-)

    • @Andrewjasonlee
      @Andrewjasonlee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul McKay , that’s exactly what I did on my i3 clone kit from hictop. I used 12 gauge silicone wire from power supply to board. Then 12 gauge silicone wire from bed to board directly soldered on board. My hictop ramps board caught FIRE last week. The bad design and poor screw down connectors not correctly rated for the amperage failed over time and shorted out causing a fire that, thankfully, I was sitting next to and put it out. I’m considering soldering the power input directly to the board as well to completely bypass the screw down terminals. I replaced the original ramps board with a BIQU Mks base 1.5 on Amazon.

    • @TrotFoxGreyfoot
      @TrotFoxGreyfoot 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be aware that the supplied wire for the printer's bed is not extremely flexible. I installed X and Y chains and within a few weeks the bed wire burned through, apparently due to the flexing.

  • @ZonaALG
    @ZonaALG 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I consider some of this mods not to be really necessary for safety, like changing the PSU or resoldering the heat bed cables, but I'm a fan of modifying stuff as much as possible so I will probably do some of this

  • @Supply_65
    @Supply_65 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of tweezers are you using in this vid when you held a small nut in a tight spot?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just some cheap tweezers I got at Harbor Freight.

  • @brandong.8494
    @brandong.8494 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I have the new power supply and mofset. I was hoping you would have a diagram or something for how to wire it up correctly :(

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry I do not, but I bet you could find something here on TH-cam

    • @brandong.8494
      @brandong.8494 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's ok. I accidentally fried the board and gave up and packed it away in storage. Stupid thing lol.

  • @stkfrie2649
    @stkfrie2649 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx

  • @drpeppero3
    @drpeppero3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What printing program are you using?

  • @FrenkJanse
    @FrenkJanse 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a pre-upgraded part versus a upgraded part, with focus on the quality. Still, a good video. Happy to see you are still human :)

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That'll be happening in the next video. I've been doing lots of tests and upgrades.

  • @repteelian
    @repteelian 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a thingiverse link for the hotbed cable attachment you used to secure cables after soldering?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes thats in the drag chain files I've linked in the description.

    • @repteelian
      @repteelian 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Punished Props Academy thank you so much!

  • @CyanMadness
    @CyanMadness 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Bill, if I were to buy Foamsmith Vol 1 or 2 as a printed book, do you also get a digital copy too or is that just for the templates?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not by default, but shoot me an email once you've picked up the print books and I"ll send you a download link. punishedprops at gmail

    • @CyanMadness
      @CyanMadness 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay cool! Thanks Bill!

  • @christianxdd8921
    @christianxdd8921 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed a fan for the main board it gets very hot and there are quite a few cases of main boards burning out and new firmware with safety features the default firmware lacks thermal runaway protection.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great idea, thanks!

  • @JAVIER-rh7iq
    @JAVIER-rh7iq 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you instead a genuine e3d v6 after installing this exact power supply? Or would it need to be upgraded to bigger power supply?

    • @duckrutt
      @duckrutt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The heater cartridge should have about the same number of watts (30-40) so the power supply should be fine but you would need to print a different extruder assembly. The hot ends are completely different.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have no idea.

    • @asicdathens
      @asicdathens 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are also plenty designs around (mainly Thingiverse) for this mod.

  • @alexchinchilla821
    @alexchinchilla821 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im getting my anet 8 soon in the mail, im a beginner , im slightly concerned with leaving my machine on for along period of time, whats the longest anyone has left there machine on?, and would I assume I don't want to leave it on and walk away without watching it from time to time? thanks!

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      After doing my safety upgrades, I was leaving it on for 10 hours at a time with no problems.

  • @libbyandtai
    @libbyandtai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the Anet a8 for 123$
    It’s my first 3D printer
    I’m almost done putting it together and will take all the advice I can get

    • @bukkeiedwin2125
      @bukkeiedwin2125 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just ordered mine too :) I bought 2 Mosfets and a Power Socket With Fuse Switch (from ebay) just to be sure It will not do any damage to the other electronic devices in the house in case of something. I will mostly print PLA and I read that for PLA the mosfet is not that important because the bed it's not that hot, but for those 3$ I rather be sure.

  • @bigjohn75
    @bigjohn75 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    bill also what spare parts would you recommend to keep on hand for this printer. I have not yet dovin to the 3D printing world but soon. very soon would you know for average use how fast do they go through belts. thanks buddy enjoy all that you and your wife do on the channel and have used many techniques I've learned to help my wife make Halloween costumes for our daughter

    • @christianxdd8921
      @christianxdd8921 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i am no bill however the belts do a lot of stretching in the first week so you need a x belt tensioner and y belt tensioner.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have no idea. We'll see what breaks first! =)

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good thinking. I did order more belts in case I wanted to add the tensioners.

  • @Max_Money_AWA
    @Max_Money_AWA 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another option for the spool of print "wire" would be to use a hole saw the size of the hole in the spool.
    Personally, I would have ground down the proud bracket on the bed holding your wires instead of grinding the plexi frame of the printer. That's just another option.
    Love the series this season.

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      HA! Yeah if I hadn't reacted in such an aggressive manner, I might have come up with a more elegant solution for the interference on that part. =)

  • @KR-vr3kh
    @KR-vr3kh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any reason why you linked to a 2 pack of MOSFETs? Just an extra?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a 2nd to eventually attach to the hot end.

  • @Ay_Ess
    @Ay_Ess ปีที่แล้ว

    Had my Anet A8 since 2017... Havent done any of the "safety upgrades"..... Been just fine... And i often leave it on for long prints, over nights.. while im out the house etc..

  • @FAB1150
    @FAB1150 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I have recently started wanting a 3d printer.
    Looking at gearbest Christmas sales and reviews on TH-cam, I discovered the tronxy x8 -149€, the P802 -144€ (didn't really understand the difference between the two), or the anet a8 -144€ (All the prices are calculated including a spool of filament).
    Which one is better, or is there another kit for that price that is better? Thanks!

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't tried any of them except the A8, so I don't know which is better.

    • @terrystearns9463
      @terrystearns9463 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A8

  • @danielstevens5925
    @danielstevens5925 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed you didn't say what amp of fuse you decided to go with. and the power supply doesn't say what the ac current draw is.

  • @foreveryoung8648
    @foreveryoung8648 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Bill.
    I have a question regarding paints. When spray painting my foam props I am getting a problem of the paint being strange like it's separating. It looks kind of like a spider web. I've encountered this problem when sealing with PVA glue and plasti-dip. It also does it no matter how thick or thin I apply the coat. It doesn't happen over all the prop but maybe about 30% of it. Do you know why it's happening or a way I can prevent it?
    Thank you
    Joe

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sorry, but I don't know what would be causing that.

    • @foreveryoung8648
      @foreveryoung8648 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Punished Props Thank you for the reply! I shall have to do some more tests on scrap foam. Keep up the good work and thank you for inspiring me to begin making!

    • @ge2719
      @ge2719 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forever Young sounds like you maybe got some silicone or something on the prop that the paint can't stick to

    • @foreveryoung8648
      @foreveryoung8648 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Graeme Evans Can't be silicone, I've never used it and don't own any! As mentioned they're sealed in plasti dip or PVA glue, left to dry wiped with a paint prep cloth then sprayed once clean and dry. Thank you for the suggestion though, would love to get to the bottom of it!

    • @ge2719
      @ge2719 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      well i said silicone or something. anything thats like a release agent would prevent paint from sticking. petroleum gel, starch, solvent, soap, emulsifiers, oils, theres a lot of things that can prevent paint from adhering properly.
      does it look like this i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/joshprescotttttt5/IMG_0463.jpg

  • @magicmandk7402
    @magicmandk7402 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, new to your channel because of Modern Rouge. Question: I might be going to Fan Expo in Toronto Canada(sorta like Comic Con) during the Labour Day weekend and I would like to cosplay. I don't know what to go as. I have a few things lying around that I could put together to make something. Stuff like a leather jacket similar to Captain Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds from Firefly but in a dark green. A cape which is black on one side and red on the other. I have a few toy hand guns I got from the dollar store for Halloween a few years ago. Also, I have a few pairs of black dress pants and black vests. What do you think? Any ideas?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whatever you go as, pick a character that you really like and have as much fun as possible.

    • @magicmandk7402
      @magicmandk7402 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I might goes as Penn Jillette the magician because I know a bunch of really good card tricks hence my name MagicManDK

  • @quadcopteringaz1613
    @quadcopteringaz1613 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey buddy,just picked up an a8.printed great for a week,go to turn it on and I noticed hotbed light came on as soon as I flipped the switch on.now hotbed doesn't turn off and temp keeps going up without any control over it.what could be the problem?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sorry I have no idea.

    • @terrystearns9463
      @terrystearns9463 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A
      Bad sensor wire from the heat bed or The motherboard..

  • @sakurito55
    @sakurito55 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What size for the bearings?

  • @kasper3026
    @kasper3026 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi bill good evening from finland!

  • @darkwinter6028
    @darkwinter6028 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In addition to the smoke detector, a good ABC fire extinguisher in the room is also a good idea. I've got two...

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anet board is famous for not having any fuses, polyfuses or otherwise. It's better to also add individual fuses for bed and nozzle that are suitably rated. Something like 5A slow blow for the mainboard + print head, maybe 10-15A for the bed. You can also consider adding NC thermal snap switch to the print bed.

  • @ValentinaBrauer
    @ValentinaBrauer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Can i ask you something? I have to Anet a8 but my have acrilic on the bed, where can iI find all metal bed?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sorry I don't know. Check the A8 FB group: facebook.com/aneta83dprinting/

  • @terrystearns9463
    @terrystearns9463 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One smoke alarm near enough to quickly detect a fire. But far enough to not set off false alarms. Should be more than enough of a safety precaution. Of course I would never leave the house while it's running as is the same for all heating appliances..

  • @kenniclown3103
    @kenniclown3103 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you turn the heated bed 90 degrees?

  • @lilrobi45xxx42
    @lilrobi45xxx42 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey bill what site did you order the annet a8 on

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got mine from GearBest.

    • @lilrobi45xxx42
      @lilrobi45xxx42 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I’m planning on making some clone trooper armor with it. will I only have to do more filling and sanding with this printer

  • @DogsBAwesome
    @DogsBAwesome 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The main problems are the PSU and the heated bed, and the less than optimal way the extruder carriage and thermistor is connected. I've been using the original PSU with an fan strapped to the front of for over a year without a problem, it definitely need a cover and switch though
    The external mosfet may help your anet board last longer but all the burnt out wires are down to people not making a good enough connection.
    The extruder heat cartridge is held in with one screw with the thermistor flapping in the breeze, usually there is a tapped m3 hole next to the thermistor adding a small m3 screw and washer can help keep it in (not the same printer but the hotend is the same) th-cam.com/video/JGF6QbaXpiM/w-d-xo.htmlm4s
    I would probably have beefed up the wires on the heatbed and added another set from the PSU to the mosfet to minimise voltage drop.
    Now that Marlin has Anet A8 configuration as one of it's examples flashing that would give you thermal runaway protection which adds a but of safety.

  • @damianostagnanigoupil1926
    @damianostagnanigoupil1926 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi can i have the link for the belt

  • @bigjohn75
    @bigjohn75 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi bill are you going to hook up an octopie to the anet ?

    • @punishedprops
      @punishedprops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not. I'm trying to keep this as low budget as possible.

  • @rogerswartfagerii996
    @rogerswartfagerii996 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are all those links?

  • @marcosramirez385
    @marcosramirez385 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Upgrade to the AM8 frame.

  • @memesredacted
    @memesredacted 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think ill just do he power supply and the switch. if one of the belts breaks, i can just buy a new one. i dont feel comfortable turning​ the bed sideways.

  • @maxximumb
    @maxximumb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hotend MOSFET isn't needed. If anything it causes more problems. The hotend draws very little current compared to the heated bed. What you should do, it check that the hotend heater element is secure in the block before turning on the printer each time. This can work work loose over time and can be a big problem if it falls out.

  • @moritzberger9383
    @moritzberger9383 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are some good upgrades! Though, there is one thing I am concerned about, which is soldering the wires directly on to the bed! Yes, you should not use the connector that came with the Anet, but why is everyone breaking of the soldered plug off the heatbed? This doesn't make any sense. Why not just solder the wires to the pins of the plug, as the problem is not the plug itself but it's counter part, where the wires are attached to.
    In fact, some people desolder the plug rather than breaking it off as you did, making it unsafer than it was before. This is due to the strong heat dissipation you're getting from the aluminium plate. If you solder something directly to it you really need to heat the whole plate up first, otherwise you soldering joints wont last long.