I’d elect going legendary pants with snowveiled or orange herald on them. First one will help with unstoppable and second will help with currents uptime choice would be yours. Tubular’s is a good option just not a fan of teleporting for it to trigger them would rather dash with esus and ice armor for unstoppable. Other than that awesome video and guide!
Thanks! I used to use the snowveiled and have also tried orange herald, definitely like orange herald! I'm really used to the Tibaults and teleport though I basically have it on almost perma :D Thanks for the kind words and suggestions!
@@GinDoesGaming You’re most welcome! I understand how that goes get used to how a certain gameplay feels and as long as it’s doing what it needs to do that’s all that matters!
@@billyrickett8392 Yeah, just gotta make it work for you! There's definitely changes to be made here and lots more to farm if I had to min/max things. That masterworking can be a bit of a pain sometimes :D
@@GinDoesGaming sheesh you’re telling me!!!!! I’ve rerolled and spent billions of gold trying to get the right amount of CS/CSD and code on my shako, it’s definitely very expensive and time consuming for sure! I’m running FO/LS with wand and focus but have my tibualts and 2h staff on stand by till I get my rolls right then im switch to full LS, and will probably use your skill tree, I noticed its very similar to northwars with the chain lighting points for crackling. :)
I worked on a LS build for days whilst using a Frozen Orb build. Got the Shako 3x Crit on CDR, got the Rasha critting on CDR, got the GA Conj Mastery Winterglass etc. Finally switched over and I really didn't like it. I found it clunky compared to Frozen Orb and inferior on single target/bosses. Maybe it's because I play on console, but I found Frozen Orb much easier and more effective. Disappointing after putting so much work into it, but I've now got some Trust Fund level gear for other builds.
Ah that's unfortunate :( I haven't tried on console tbh. I actually like frozen orb more too but I found it a lot weaker this season, that shako is pretty good for many other builds at least! :D
No, we don't really use a lot of resource when running optimally, and we lose needed aspects and more importantly, we lose the cooldown reduction on Lightning Spear.
For those nerds out there like me, opt for Tyraels might ( have all dmg reduction masterworked ) a gloves with GA crit Chance (masterworked 3x) + ring with GA crit chance (no need to masterwrok Crit chance) a decent Esu's stats will put you at around 75 Crit chance.. when in an instance/dungeon once your Conjuration mastery is stacked, you are comfortably sitting at 85% crit + lightning spears modifier of 15% crit chance.. 100%
How vital is Crit Chance % in this build? Does it have a big impact on how it plays and resets Spear cool down? I played this build with a flat 60% Crit Chance and didn't enjoy it. Would it be different if I got that up to 85%?
@HolyWhisp all of your dmg comes from splintering aspect so you're only really doing dmg when you crit. The skill dmg itself is terrible which is why you only put 1 point in it.
Thank you for your videos. Your non Uber video really helped me, and now that I have managed to get a shako, this video is just what I needed. I haven’t yet tried this build yet, but I’ve noticed you haven’t put point(s) into Frozen Orb, but have on your skill bar. How does this work?
Hi thank you for this build I am curious why did you put Frozen Orbit to gloves and Storm swell to ring ? It just vise versa in mekuna`s built, it there a special reason for that ?
Thanks for the Vid. Damage on crowd is awesome, on single boss it's kinda meh. You've forgotten to add Flameshield to ur Skill Tree. If gear is bad mastered u die fast. The Rare Nodes in Elemental Summoner are not fully activated, the Bonus is missing here. Build isn't bad, but there are others around that are better balanced
He doesnt need to put points into flame shield because he has Shako. As you can see in the showcase, he has Fire shield on his bar without any points in it.
Thanks, it's not bad on bosses too when you get more CDR too. Don't need the flameshield ranks as I have points in it from items and if i got the rare nodes in elemental summoner it would just give all resist but i'm already maxed on that.
Can someone explain me; do we need to increase crit dmg or crit chance to multiply our dmg ? I am around 1700 crit dmg but low on crit chance atm so how should I continue ? and also with winterglass I have GA on cooldown so its at max possible 0.7 sn , but conjuration mastery is not good its at 5 , I can`t stack more is it because of low conjuration points ? Thanks
You need crit chance at 79-85% after evade, depending on whether you use a crit potion or not, and then just get crit dmg as high as possible once you hit cd cap, basically. Winterglass with GA on cooldown and full masterwork is what you want, so that's all good. :D
Does the % damage roll on your weapon really do anything , all the damage in this build is coming from splitting energy ? it says it only scales with crit multi .
It doesn't for the splintering portion, it's either that or max life, you could go max life for sure if you'd like, it does give a hit of tankiness, atm I just haven't had an issue with that. I'd Imagine if I go higher in the pits I would revert back to Max Life though. (Although I'll be changing builds now to try other stuff so I may not have to worry about that) :D
Oh I see, I was using that previously in another build but I did not notice anything, thank you for the heads up and comment! :D Will definitely give this a look!
That's rough :( I have a vid without any ubers that's more attainable to get that can still do t8 hordes, it's linked in the description of this vid, maybe that will help you out a bit!
I just like that itll heal me back to pretty much full instantly from trash mobs. Not really many other good options there, could go for max life if you wanted.
Running a similar build, but for me, a point into flameshield is a must. To be able to swap between ice armor and flame shield when one is still on cooldown helps with my survivability. I noticed I was dying a lot more without having both shields lol.
Yes but you would need to find a new winterglass as the old ones don't have the cooldown reduction when frozen orb explodes, also requires you to get the new temper recipes.
No, I would need perfect gear to get your Lightning Spear to near that low. I can get mine to 6.3 currently, at the time of the video I believe it was 7.2. Getting the right rolls/masterwork on all the gear would be the end goal and ofc make you significantly stronger. I'd also swap some things if I had perfect gear.
@@GinDoesGaming Oh okay - yeah I'm currently facing that problem as well. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong. Can't seem to get a Shaco with CD GA, and can't get my 2nd ring to Lightning spear CD x3
@@AfroPuff Yeah it's definitely a rough grind to get those things out, especially the shako but unless you're trying to push pits as high as possible it's not too bad :D
you will definitely run out of mana if you spam frozen orb.. you should be spamming lightning spear. 1 or 2 frozen orb then spam the spear.. the orb is just supplementary to increase the cooldown of lightning spear
@@RagingGhoul if you are following this build. i would assume that you have a shako and tal rasha.. you should aim to masterwork all the cooldown reduction on those gears (3x each). do note that it is better to have a tal rasha with the highest roll on cooldown reduction. additionally you need to have your winterglass cooldwon roll to be at least +.6
unless you have an endgame fully optimized build dont expect the lightning spear to almost have no cooldown. if you watch the video closely, the way he is spamming skills are in alternates.. it is not more of frozen orb
you will also be wearing a normal ring in this build of which one of its tempering is lightning spear cooldown.. you get that to masterwork 3x you should have a decent cooldown on lightning spear
In optimized versions of the build you just hold down lightning spear and destroy everything and casting frozen orbs means less conjurations and less damage. This guy only has around 30 conjurations max which either means his cooldown is too low or his hourglass has bad rolls.
Check out the tier 8 Mekuna is running. One of the best sorcerers in the game other than northwar and the others. Watch him use his frozen orb in the 8 horde. Sometimes it just has to happen if the mobs are not bunched up and grouped good. I’ve even seen Raxx do it as well. Nothing wrong with it honestly and mechanics in tier 8 will one shot you . Have to stay moving and sustain somehow, why not pop an orb when you need to smfh.
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I enjoy this build, it makes my pants get a very tight one, isa restricting my blood flow! Molte Bene!
Thanks for the build, helped a lot!
I’d elect going legendary pants with snowveiled or orange herald on them. First one will help with unstoppable and second will help with currents uptime choice would be yours. Tubular’s is a good option just not a fan of teleporting for it to trigger them would rather dash with esus and ice armor for unstoppable. Other than that awesome video and guide!
Thanks! I used to use the snowveiled and have also tried orange herald, definitely like orange herald! I'm really used to the Tibaults and teleport though I basically have it on almost perma :D Thanks for the kind words and suggestions!
@@GinDoesGaming You’re most welcome! I understand how that goes get used to how a certain gameplay feels and as long as it’s doing what it needs to do that’s all that matters!
@@billyrickett8392 Yeah, just gotta make it work for you! There's definitely changes to be made here and lots more to farm if I had to min/max things. That masterworking can be a bit of a pain sometimes :D
@@GinDoesGaming sheesh you’re telling me!!!!! I’ve rerolled and spent billions of gold trying to get the right amount of CS/CSD and code on my shako, it’s definitely very expensive and time consuming for sure! I’m running FO/LS with wand and focus but have my tibualts and 2h staff on stand by till I get my rolls right then im switch to full LS, and will probably use your skill tree, I noticed its very similar to northwars with the chain lighting points for crackling. :)
@@billyrickett8392 I got tripple crit CDR in like...130 million lol
Awesome Gin! 🎉
Ty Ty!
Great update to the build ty.
No problem! :D
I worked on a LS build for days whilst using a Frozen Orb build. Got the Shako 3x Crit on CDR, got the Rasha critting on CDR, got the GA Conj Mastery Winterglass etc.
Finally switched over and I really didn't like it. I found it clunky compared to Frozen Orb and inferior on single target/bosses.
Maybe it's because I play on console, but I found Frozen Orb much easier and more effective. Disappointing after putting so much work into it, but I've now got some Trust Fund level gear for other builds.
Ah that's unfortunate :( I haven't tried on console tbh. I actually like frozen orb more too but I found it a lot weaker this season, that shako is pretty good for many other builds at least! :D
i am gonna try this build tonight after work. at the moment i reach just pit tier 110 and infernal hordes 6 comfortable with fireball sorc
Awesome, thats not bad at all! :D Hope you enjoy the build. Thanks for the comment.
Do you recommend starless skies ring for this build?
No, we don't really use a lot of resource when running optimally, and we lose needed aspects and more importantly, we lose the cooldown reduction on Lightning Spear.
For those nerds out there like me, opt for Tyraels might ( have all dmg reduction masterworked ) a gloves with GA crit Chance (masterworked 3x) + ring with GA crit chance (no need to masterwrok Crit chance) a decent Esu's stats will put you at around 75 Crit chance.. when in an instance/dungeon once your Conjuration mastery is stacked, you are comfortably sitting at 85% crit + lightning spears modifier of 15% crit chance.. 100%
How vital is Crit Chance % in this build? Does it have a big impact on how it plays and resets Spear cool down?
I played this build with a flat 60% Crit Chance and didn't enjoy it. Would it be different if I got that up to 85%?
@HolyWhisp all of your dmg comes from splintering aspect so you're only really doing dmg when you crit. The skill dmg itself is terrible which is why you only put 1 point in it.
Thank you for your videos. Your non Uber video really helped me, and now that I have managed to get a shako, this video is just what I needed. I haven’t yet tried this build yet, but I’ve noticed you haven’t put point(s) into Frozen Orb, but have on your skill bar. How does this work?
@@HongkeyKong Shako adds 4 points to skills
@@hbtan9841 Thanks! I'm looking forward to trying this tonight.
You're welcome! Grats on the shako!
@@GinDoesGamingI just tried the build. I used the same gear as what I had before, but it's definitely stronger. Tier8 done easy first attempt.
@@HongkeyKong Awesome! Glad to hear it, nice work on the t8!
Hi thank you for this build
I am curious why did you put Frozen Orbit to gloves and Storm swell to ring ?
It just vise versa in mekuna`s built, it there a special reason for that ?
No problem! No there's no difference, I just happen to have frozen orbit on gloves.
Thanks for the Vid.
Damage on crowd is awesome, on single boss it's kinda meh.
You've forgotten to add Flameshield to ur Skill Tree. If gear is bad mastered u die fast.
The Rare Nodes in Elemental Summoner are not fully activated, the Bonus is missing here.
Build isn't bad, but there are others around that are better balanced
He doesnt need to put points into flame shield because he has Shako. As you can see in the showcase, he has Fire shield on his bar without any points in it.
Thanks, it's not bad on bosses too when you get more CDR too.
Don't need the flameshield ranks as I have points in it from items and if i got the rare nodes in elemental summoner it would just give all resist but i'm already maxed on that.
@@GinDoesGaming I really like how fast u get the crowd down. Anyways, ill give it another go 😊 Lets see what i can max outta it
@@alflasalle It has great clearing for sure. Awesome, hope it works well for you :D
Put frozen orb for ice spikes in enchantment slot if you have a good winter glass
Can someone explain me; do we need to increase crit dmg or crit chance to multiply our dmg ? I am around 1700 crit dmg but low on crit chance atm so how should I continue ?
and also with winterglass I have GA on cooldown so its at max possible 0.7 sn , but conjuration mastery is not good its at 5 , I can`t stack more is it because of low conjuration points ?
Thanks
You need crit chance at 79-85% after evade, depending on whether you use a crit potion or not, and then just get crit dmg as high as possible once you hit cd cap, basically.
Winterglass with GA on cooldown and full masterwork is what you want, so that's all good. :D
Does the % damage roll on your weapon really do anything , all the damage in this build is coming from splitting energy ? it says it only scales with crit multi .
Thats right, damage afix is useless
It doesn't for the splintering portion, it's either that or max life, you could go max life for sure if you'd like, it does give a hit of tankiness, atm I just haven't had an issue with that. I'd Imagine if I go higher in the pits I would revert back to Max Life though. (Although I'll be changing builds now to try other stuff so I may not have to worry about that) :D
You're taking the wrong ice armor upgrade, the other one is bugged and is what skyrockets your damage with Storm Swell aspect, just a heads up.
Oh I see, I was using that previously in another build but I did not notice anything, thank you for the heads up and comment! :D
Will definitely give this a look!
@@GinDoesGaming Of course man, great content keep it up.
Very good guide
Thank you :D
What is the highest Pit were you able to complete with this build? Can you actually show it?
With this build the highest Pit I've done is 135 currently, the last pit I recorded was 133, a bit of that was shown at the very start of this video.
3 weeks in. Still no harlequin drop… And can’t do more than t5 horrdes solo :(
That's rough :( I have a vid without any ubers that's more attainable to get that can still do t8 hordes, it's linked in the description of this vid, maybe that will help you out a bit!
Shako is easy to get, you don't need a drop from bosses. 3 weeks in and I am done with this char. nothing to do anymore😅
Get that crit up and you will smash t8
Why do you temper warmth?
I just like that itll heal me back to pretty much full instantly from trash mobs. Not really many other good options there, could go for max life if you wanted.
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Running a similar build, but for me, a point into flameshield is a must. To be able to swap between ice armor and flame shield when one is still on cooldown helps with my survivability. I noticed I was dying a lot more without having both shields lol.
You don‘t Need to put a point in flame shield because you get 4 from shaco
@@I_am_Uncut But if you don't have a shaco... you will need to i guess?
Can this build be made in eternal realm?
Yes but you would need to find a new winterglass as the old ones don't have the cooldown reduction when frozen orb explodes, also requires you to get the new temper recipes.
Are you hitting the 5.1 CD on lightning spear with this gear?
No, I would need perfect gear to get your Lightning Spear to near that low. I can get mine to 6.3 currently, at the time of the video I believe it was 7.2. Getting the right rolls/masterwork on all the gear would be the end goal and ofc make you significantly stronger. I'd also swap some things if I had perfect gear.
@@GinDoesGaming Oh okay - yeah I'm currently facing that problem as well. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong. Can't seem to get a Shaco with CD GA, and can't get my 2nd ring to Lightning spear CD x3
@@AfroPuff Yeah it's definitely a rough grind to get those things out, especially the shako but unless you're trying to push pits as high as possible it's not too bad :D
You don't need Shako with Ga on Cdr. I have reached 5.8 cdr on lightning speer. thats enough for 50 stacks of conjoration
6.3 here and on dummies I get 51 stacks
My conjuration mastery is at 10 and I still run out of mana
you will definitely run out of mana if you spam frozen orb.. you should be spamming lightning spear. 1 or 2 frozen orb then spam the spear.. the orb is just supplementary to increase the cooldown of lightning spear
@@Jorg3nMandeR I can’t I have a cooldown
@@RagingGhoul if you are following this build. i would assume that you have a shako and tal rasha.. you should aim to masterwork all the cooldown reduction on those gears (3x each). do note that it is better to have a tal rasha with the highest roll on cooldown reduction. additionally you need to have your winterglass cooldwon roll to be at least +.6
unless you have an endgame fully optimized build dont expect the lightning spear to almost have no cooldown. if you watch the video closely, the way he is spamming skills are in alternates.. it is not more of frozen orb
you will also be wearing a normal ring in this build of which one of its tempering is lightning spear cooldown.. you get that to masterwork 3x you should have a decent cooldown on lightning spear
Stop spamming frozen orb god ! You really don't know how this build works...
lol make your own TH-cam vid then boi
Im newbie why is that?
Yeah why not spam orbs?
In optimized versions of the build you just hold down lightning spear and destroy everything and casting frozen orbs means less conjurations and less damage. This guy only has around 30 conjurations max which either means his cooldown is too low or his hourglass has bad rolls.
Check out the tier 8 Mekuna is running. One of the best sorcerers in the game other than northwar and the others. Watch him use his frozen orb in the 8 horde. Sometimes it just has to happen if the mobs are not bunched up and grouped good. I’ve even seen Raxx do it as well. Nothing wrong with it honestly and mechanics in tier 8 will one shot you . Have to stay moving and sustain somehow, why not pop an orb when you need to smfh.