Christopher didn’t go to hell for Tony. He went to hell for the life he lived. He had countless opportunities to put that life in his rear view, but just like his addiction, he always came crawling back for more.
Dude was a sociopath with very few redeeming qualities. And only rarely had introspection. And, even in his 'outside ventures', he acted like a POS. At the end of the day, he loved the mob life and the thrill of it all..
But the life he lived was in service of Tony Soprano... So yeah... he went FOR Tony. Doesn't mean that Christopher isn't to blame... he made the choices that he made, without a gun to his head (most of the time)... but he made those decisions in SERVICE OF TONY. Remember... He helped get rid of Ralph's body without question or hesitation... He sold out Adrianna, and he went ahead and killed that cop even after he had the (all but) certain knowledge that the man didn't whack his father. And now we know who actually DID whack his father... Titsoon.
Ok guys, you heard it here first!!! The Many Saints of Newark is Christopher’s screen play. That’s why he’s doing the out of place voice over and it doesn’t quite match Tony’s memories, his Dad is painted in a reasonably good light with an excuse explaining his drug addiction ‘rumour’, we never find out actually who killed his Dad (because he didn’t know), Junior is mocked (he was writing it around the time he had Brendon killed) and finally it is the reason it is shit.
The scene where Junior says “he works for me now” and Tony looks devastated becomes entirely different if Tony did at some point become aware that Junior had Dickie Whacked. Tony didn’t want Junior to have Christopher anywhere near him, because Junior had been known in the past to take contracts out on people who did something that Junior perceived as disrespectful towards him. Even if it was entirely harmless. Tony was attempting to protect Christopher from the same fate as his father at the hands of his uncle.
Wouldn't it have been Livia Soprano tho? Remember that Tony hates Livia more than Junior . Theres also speculation that Livia was manipulating JR. Theres even a scene where tells livia 'You know, everyone thought Dad was the ruthless one. But I gotta hand it to you. If you'd been born after those feminists, you woulda been the real gangster.' Livia speaks in Doublespeak . Meaning Tony finds out the truth later in the years, but it was probably Livia who manipulated JR in doing it.
That is an interesting way to look at that scene now, but I'm willing to bet that it wasn't originally written with that backstory in mind. In fact I'm totally on team "they came up with Junior having Dickie whacked purely to have a "shocking" twist near the end"
In the very first episode of the series, Christopher committed first-degree murder. (And with no go-ahead from Tony or even telling him beforehand.) Christopher’s actions were his own choices, and on his own head.
I mean everytime Christopher made excuses they were just that excuses. It was his way of weaseling out of doing something other than being normal. I'm not saying Tony wasn't an influence but Christopher made those decisions; he wanted the life. Christopher went to Hell for his own means not Tony. Also, when Tony grabbed Chrissy and when he told him to basically make a decision in or out Tony would have supported it. The same way he reluctantly supported Tony Blundetto it was Tony B like Christopher made those decisions because they couldn't live outside of the life. Also, when it comes to the cop who allegedly killed his father that was Tony's way of pulling Christopher close to him while testing his loyalty. This was all after the Jackie Jr BS. Christopher has a penchant for being disrespectful even to Tony at times. Seeing as Tony fears jail but wants to remain the boss he wants to use Christopher as his front but he needs him to be 100% loyal and in a way indebted to him. So this power move is his way of doing it and it worked. After theh hit Christopher says " What you did for me the F who killed my father. I'd follow you to Hell." But here's the thing Christopher already condemned his soul to hell on his own when he killed the Polish guy at Satriales. That was all of Christopher's doing he volunteered he made the decision to murder the guy; his first murder. He wanted in the life and only had doubts when he felt that he was not being recognized for his loyalty. Also remember he was always Gung Ho about mafia things in Season 1; like murdering Mikey Palmice for the murder of Brandon Fallone. Chrissy had the chance to get out and had a wake up call when he got shot. Even Carmella came to him and prayed and give him guidance to change but he never did. He went back to Tony not because Tony had a hold on him but because he wanted the life. Another time was when he went to get gas and saw the guy with the wife and kids struggling with his family; his crappy clothes and crappy car. Not because of Tony or his love for him or Tonys manipulation. It comes from Christophers lack of maturity he took the easy way. This is why he kept making excuses to not become a writer or director and why he said he will return from a place of wealth. Yes Tony and the life are bad influences but Christopher going to hell is his own doing. Being in the Mafia for these guys is the easy way to success. They are narcissists, sociopaths. They couldn't hack a regular life. Tony isn't the reason Tony was a means
Also, how did Junior manage to get Dickie whacked? Junior had very little clout and wasn't taken seriously by his own crew. The voice speaking to Junior sounded like Paulie. Why would Paulie wack Dickie?
@@mikemacfadyen1972 I think Junior lived off of his brothers clout. He did run Johnny Boys crew when he went to prison; even though Dickie had more respect. Junior could possible call a hit on Dickie and get away with it but that was bad writing. I like that it was Junior who killed Dickie but they should have shown Junior getting more respect atleast to be able to kill Dickie.
Atleast the palmice murder was justifiable. Palmice killed his good friend. He probably didnt lose a wink of sleep over that murder, and why should he? Now the emil kolar hit, i can see how thats haunting. He didnt know the guy, they never had an issues with each other personally, and he shot him in the back of the head after luring him in and being nice to his face. We could argue that kolar was a drug dealer and could of been a scumbag sure however theres still that uncertainty due to not knowing the guy
Tony became a gangster because of Junior. Juniors dark shadow over everything. Junior was is the ultimate villain in this. He is directly responsible for the downfall of Tony and consequently Chris as well.
Tony is gangster because he wanted to be one. It little partly his mom and dad. At one point the father wanted to leave and go partner with this guy guess what happen?.
That's Christopher alright, ruins his own life with his bad choices and then blames other people for it! Maybe it's unkind of me but I really don't have any sympathy for Christopher.
Chrissy was a likeably character to a degree, but he was also a moron. All the capable people wound up dead or turning rat except for Sil and that is up for debate.
in season 1 chrissy says to his buddy before the hijacking that all he ever wanted was to be part of tonys crew since he was a lil kid so chrissy is like henry hill and jimmy
Most of Chris’s murders were not under orders from Tony….as a matter of fact he pissed Tony off over the first guy he killed, Amil…because he didn’t have permission. The last of Chris’s murders also happened without Tony’s permission or knowledge, RJ who was Chris’s NA/AA sponsor. Chris was hellbound regardless of Tony.
You should really make a video on how insecure Chris is in the series. It’s almost his core character trait. I think the path he chose is definitely more of a constant internal struggle with his insecurities and self esteem.
Christopher went to hell for the same reason everyone goes to hell: he did not, in his heart, accept Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior. He made no effort whatsoever to know God, to serve God, or to allow God to change him. Christopher's God was himself. In the end we are all sinners, and sin separates us from God. You don't need to be in the mafia. You don't need to be a murderer. You don't need to be anything but human, and you are going to hell, period. Jesus is the only alternative.
Some hell, lol. It looked and sounded like a party in the after life. Mikey and Blundetto were no saints but they seemed to be having a good time on the other side. Mikey playing dice with his friends and having a good laugh at Paulies expense. Blundetto greeting people outside a really flash looking place, relaxed and smiling. What nice afterlife for gangsters 😂🎉
I always thought Chris looking at the normal family coming out of the shop when he was considering whether to choose Tony or Adrianna was about her not being able to have kids. He makes it clear several times how important having kids is to him, and how he doesn't want the Moltisanti name to die with him and that he doesn't want to adopt. When it zooms in on the kids I figured that was Chris thinking about the fact that in a future with Adrianna he could never have that.
That's a good theory! I think though that if it had shown a loving, calm side of family life then he'd totally be like: "screw her, she can't give me kids anyway." But the chaos and poverty/middle class exhibited shows him what'd it'd be like if he got a real job under witness protection. He has no real skills, no real work ethic, and there's nothing really glamorous about a 9-5. I think he wimped out. He sacrificed Adrianna so he could keep the easy money and the status.
Maybe but I think it’s more he saw a reminder of what it would be like to be a minimum wage schnook. Chrissy’s greatest fear was to become a poor, unaccomplished nobody.
He served him in life, and he'll serve him in hell. Chris allowed himself to be spiritually enslaved to Tony in life, and he'll forever be under Tony's spiritual domination in the afterlife. Note: I don't believe in an actual afterlife
Have you seen the film and the entire series? This episode takes place around 1997-1999. Tony is just turning 40, Chris is around 28-30 years old in this scene and he has been "running around" with the Tony Soprano crew for around 10 years at this point. It's explained during the series that Chris dropped out of high school and started hanging around Tony in his late teens.
@@R49_Complete That doesn't explain what Chris actually did that would be worth making a movie about. Unless I missed something, we don't hear about anything specific. Just what you said, he dropped out of high school and started doing some work for tony. For all we know, he spent a decade being low level muscle. Just collecting debts or something like that. Obviously we can imagine it was a little more interesting than that, as he was basically Tony's personal assistant in the first episode.
@@thegoodolddays9193 Chrissy was talking shit, plain and simple. He may have thought his story would sell and make him millions but the story had already been told before so he really had nothing to offer.
You misunderstand. He wouldn't have actually made millions, it's just what Chris thinks he'd get because he's dumb, arrogant and his idea for success as a gangster is being able to be a Scarface-level baller with a giant mansion rather than a very nice house and a garbage company to funnel your cash through.
I know it's largely because it's how we're trained to think of these things as a product of a mentality and moral system that was created well before we had much of a scientific understanding of ideas like "free will" (at least of the "libertarian" kind) and the false dichotomy of "nature vs nurture". But I see a lot of these things discussed like there was a ton of intent and thought behind it when in reality that's just not usually how it works and even when it kinda does it's rarely that simple. I'm "mixed" Sicilian and Black and came up between largely Italian and Sicilian neighborhoods and predominantly black neighborhoods during the 80's and 90's. I saw both D-Boys and wise guys and best believe we looked up to em. In the middle of the horror show that was Brooklyn and Memphis back then with the crack era in full force, desperate poverty everywhere, all that, those fancy clothes, jewelry and cars seemed like something to aspire to. But we were kids! We didn't really understand what that meant. We barely put together that the fly ass clothes and fixed up cars were the direct result of the poison in the neighborhood or anything like that, we didn't see people get beat cause they owed money, and a lotta what we did see seemed justified in a weird way But from a young age it was attractive and we gravitated towards it even as we got older. When it's your whole family and most everybody ya know or it's all around ya all the time and the only ones ya see eating well are gangsters of some kinds, what hungry, hopeless kid wouldn't look up to that. They get respect while you get spit on, they're taken care of while you're scraping by, they have everything and you got less than nothing. And you don't just start out shooting people. Ya start out doing small penny ante bs and it slowly progresses over time. You're slowly desensitized to it over a long period, and it had already been normalized long before that. Another huge aspect few ever mention is even if ya never get involved and don't really wanna go into the life (whatever that may be) just living in proximity to it makes it all too easy to turn to should something ever happen. For some it's that their ticket out is crushed through no fault of their own and they fall back on the only thing they know, some they need money, maybe even for a noble cause like helping someone they love pay for medical care, others someone they love gets hurt and they feel it's on them to get justice the only way they know how. Either way often times all roads lead to the life no matter what your plans were. Just like the kid who's pops was a union guy working down the shore often knows he's following in his pop's footsteps, kids in the hood or coming up around wise guys feel the same. It's no different. It becomes just as reasonable a career path as bagging groceries or working a warehouse. None of that is to excuse anything or say it's good. Just to say that even while the outcomes can be horrific, the motive, the evil, nefarious narrative that's often built around it is more often than not completely disconnected from reality and is just a way to ignore all the root causes. I gang banged and hustled for many years til I found a way out and at no point was it really what I wanted to be doing, it was just the best of bad options in a place with no opportunity and from a perspective that never even planned to live long enough to see many consequences, unless I ended up in a cage indefinitely. It's mad complicated and outdated moralizing isn't the answer 🙌
That would have been David Chase CONFIRMING that Tony was whacked at the end of the series and he's a frustrating ambigious sod, he'll never do that, though we all know Tony is dead.
Great analysis in my opinion, but I think I would have to disagree with why Christopher said he wishes he was born before RICO. Although one of Tony's biggest motivations for killing him is the realization that Christopher's baby would have been killed in the wreck, he also does it because Chris is on drugs and is a risk to be arrested and flip because of his drug addiction. If RICO didnt exist, Tony likely would have less of a reason to kill him, and maybe Christopher would have had more of a prolonged life. Thats my take on his statement, overall great video though!
The last season was rushed and Tony killing Chrissy on the spur of the moment was silly. The show was long building a rivalry. Tony used and abused a young man he should have kept out of the life from the start. Christopher grew increasingly bitter and resentful. A whole season arc where maybe Christopher’s resentment causes him to sell Tony out would be interesting. Maybe he sells Tony out or maybe it just looks like he does but doesn’t and Tony kills him only to discover the sell out was someone else and he feels bad.
Chris is sitting in an Irish bar with nothing on the menu but corned beef & cabbage & O'Danny Boy playing on the juke box over & over again. He's in hell
Well... he said that's where he is, and he said that's why he's there, so... Yeah... he went to hell FOR Tony... not because of Tony. Christopher chose to do the things he did, and most of it was to impress Tony.
Tony definetly contributed to his dammation, both by inspiring him and by encouraging him to keep walking the path to hell, but Chris is still the one who walked it.
He’s definitely was my favorite character, I honestly wish that if they were gonna kill him off, they should’ve done it at the final episode instead of early!
Good catch! Tony didn't help, but it's likely he would've gotten involved in the Mafia even without Tony. I imagine in another life he was hanging around Johnny Boy's crew and he welcomed him in as a favor to his deceased father.
Purgatory is only reserved for souls already bound for Heaven. Chris was never seen in a church in the entire show that I remember, and he had no remorse for his decisions at the time of his death.
Christopher was a toxic person, even moreso than Tony. He advanced well beyond his capabilities solely due to his relationship with Tony, then turned around and blamed Tony for every shortcoming and difficulty in his life. Classic toxic person traits.
Hmmm...when Chrissy chooses Tony over Adrianna...I never thought it's bc he feels he'll have a "boring life" as a family man when he seen that family at the gas station. I think it's actually bc he already knows he CAN'T have kids with Adrianna...& we all know Chrissy wants to have kids.
You don't sit around in hell narrating movies where you wish you could have done better at what sent you there. Hell is a place of eternal torment. That has never been disputed by anybody. Chrissy didn't go to hell. He's in purgatory, my friend.
Hmm maybe, but part of the torment is not just physical pain and being burned and pitchforked , it’s the emotional torment being stuck with the regret of everything you did that landed you where you are
9:15 I know Alexithymia. Studies show something like 90 percent of males have it, due to society norms suppressing emotion in men. It's not understanding ones emotions, so they manifest in ways that can lead men to making decisions thay don't fully understand the motivation behind. Crazy sopranos tries to isolate it to antisocial personalities, but it shows the age of the program.
As far as the truth about the question posed, like Mikey Palmice in Tony's dream, "I got no opinion, one way or the other" but it is presumptuous to conclude that that comment means what it is claimed to mean in the video. He could have meant that given that he WAS part of that "life" his life would have been easier in hindsight if he had been part of it before RICO was introduced. For one thing, there wouldn't have been the tremendous concern with whether or not he was a heroin addict because there weren't such severe penalties for being involved in organized crime, neither in terms of what they could threaten the addict with in order to get him to "flip" nor what would be brought down upon those he would testify against.
Wait you opened my eyes the reason why tmsonw sucks is because it was written by chris this is why the movie sucked on a fundamental level look even the anagram tmsonw has the word son in it which is chris the son of dickie it all makes sense david is 5 steps ahead truely a genius
As a Catholic who's a proponent of Universal Reconciliation, my question is this: what makes any Christian believe that God would forsake any of his creatures to an eternal "hell" of painful torture, fire, brutality, etc.? If one believes that, then this represents a serious misreading of The Gospels. For some fantastic context, do yourself a favor and read "That All Shall be Saved" by David Bentley Hart.
I’d like to make a small request if you could point out the differences between how New Jersey and New York made their members. I just watched the scene and remembered that Phil mentioned no sword and gun …I’d just like to see the major differences if you can great channel keep up the great work!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE increase your volume! When you go between your narration and the clips it was so loud it woke up my girlfriend from the other room! Please work on your editing work, great video btw other than that :)
He went to purgatory, my friend. A little detour on the way to paradise. Add up all your mortal sins and multiply that number by 50. The you add up all your venial sins and multiply that by 25. Add them together and that's your sentence. A few thousand years is nothing in eternity terms. He could do that standing on his head. It's like a couple of days.
Not for tony, he went to hell only because of him, if tony shall we say selling patio furniture at Route 22, Christopher was in the mob that way or the other.
No, and he's probably there because he blames Tony for his own mistakes. He can't get out until he serves his time there with full admission of his own guilt. Tony didn't make him kill the Russian kid in season 1, didn't make him kill that waiter, didn't make him try to kill the Russian, didn't make him kill the screenwriter, etc.
You cannot atone your way out of Hell, the point of atonement is that you have to do it on the material plane when you still have time and things to lose so you don't end up in Hell for eternity.
@@jfrsnjhnsn What is your source for Hell? Your own made-up religion? Because it certainly isn't any of the Abrahamic ones. Christopher died as a practicing Catholic and is in the Catholic Hell.
5:10 When was it ever implied the hit wasn’t approved. Not only was it an order but he later tells Tony after doing it he shoulda been made right then.
In TheBeginning... Tony just Wanted to "Use" Christopher, Until He (Tony) Knew For Sure He Was "TheBoss". Then He'd Give His "Orders" Through Christopher, So That *If/When* TheTime For "Indictments" or "TheLaw" Came Calling, He'd Have a "ScapeGoat" Named Christopher. (Until He Murdered Him...)
Everyone misunderstands the part when chris saw the family. He knew Adriana couldn't have kids, and would never have have a family with her he makes a family after this
@@sophiawilson8696 lol no it’s purgatory! You take all your sins multiple it by 1000 that’s how many years you do in purgatory so for example if I get 50 thousand years in purgatory that’s nothing to an eternity in heaven.
I don’t think that the mafia was just a means to get into the movies, I mean I think he saw it as a bonus that could help him get there financially but I don’t think that was the sole reason he joined plus in one episode he is talking to one of his friends and he does say that he wanted to be a part of the Tony soprano crew since he was a little kid. Also I think Tony would’ve still loved Christopher even if he didn’t want to join the mafia because in the first couple seasons it’s pretty clear Christopher is begging to be made but it feels like if he didn’t want to go that route he would still be in Tony’s life but Tony’s biggest issue with Christopher was that he wants to be In the mafia but he constantly kept screwing things up because of his drug problems or whatever else. When Tony’s giving him the option it’s not really Tony saying that you have to join the mafia it’s him saying you need to make up your mind and if you want to do this you need to be focused because it’s not something you can halfway do and sometimes be in the mafia and sometimes wanna work legit because that’s going to lead to problems.
It's very likely that the character Christopher Moltisanti was cursed to be who he was for 2 reasons. 1. Based on who his father was, the genetics of not only drugs and alcohol but the deadly temper were wired into Chris. and 2. Based on who his family was and the company his father kept, he was groomed to be part of the mafia without any alternatives. Having said that, for some reason a lot of Sopranos fans have a much more sympathetic opinion of Christopher than I do. I think he was a selfish scumbag and that is all there is to describe him. Well, maybe dumb too. He went to hell because of Tony not just because Tony killed him but because Tony groomed him from the start to be part of the mafia and do many of the things he did. Having said that AT NO POINT was Christopher going to hell FOR Tony. Even his "fascination" with screenwriting was nothing more than a reference to Joey Gallo and his dream of hobnobbing with Hollywood elite and being treated within elite circles as elite himself. Same as mafia, when he was on the fast track to becoming a mafia boss by the age of 45 he was willing to do almost anything to get to that CEO like level. When his own problems caused him to lose favor with his fellow mobsters and Tony, at that point he became more detached and resentful. Even Adriana, he did what he did for 2 reasons. 1. He didn't want to live like Henry Hill described when he went into the witness protection program as an "average nobody". and 2. He knew that although he could have been killed for the situation despite him not personally being a rat or hiding her situation as a rat, that because Tony still had a hard time killing him outside of absolute necessity and that he would have been in some ways respected for being willing to do what he did, he'd survive and stay in the mafia circles. Everything about him was about self success and self preservation, similar to many of the mobsters on the show but probably more so than any other mobster and man was that a high bar on that show. In the end, he literally went to hell for his character as a person, a selfish prick who was killed not simply because he was high or could have killed his daughter driving her while high let alone the mob boss, but a guy who wanted Tony to bail him out of his predicament because all he knew was to see everyone for what he could get out of them.
He went to the Eternal Irish Bar where its St Patty's Day 24/7. He like his dad will play against these Roman Soldiers losing his card hand and get his head bashed in repeatedly. He will also meet Brendon, Jackie Jr, Johnny Sack, Phil Leotardo, and Adriana herself .
Ur videos are awesome and I'm not sure if this observation has already been made but @1:28. Christopher and Carmela had sophisticated cousins and so i feel they were striving for that level of esteem, if I'm expressing myself correctly lol. Okay I'm getting outta comments hell and pay attn until FIN. 😆
Christopher did a lot of terrible things that were not even mob related where he wasnt just following orders and doing what he had to do. He shot JT Dolan dead. He killed Adriana's dog...I know it was a drug induced accident but still. He sided with Tony and let Adriana be killed rather than go into witness protection. I know he grew up in a poor culture with very bad guidance but if there is a judgement coming I'm not sure his would be very favorable based on his deeds. And the fact that he had a legitimate chance to leave that life behind and failed to take it.
Does anyone ever mention the fact that that pinky swear means nothing. He does the exact opposite of what they swore on. So the emphasis on the pinky swear at the end makes no sense
Your assessment of Chris is dead wrong. His monolog in the beginning of The Many Saints of Newark is not in the absence of Tony, its thru the eyes of Christopher after he lived a life as a soldier for Tony. This is not a speech given in some other universe, separate from his life on the Sopranos, it's just after he died. He is referring to how much easier that life would have been if it was before RICO. It is not inferring that he would have never been anything but a gangster, it is simply saying the life he lead would have been more lucrative and with less fear of being arrested. Your way off.
We are the product of our choices. I've always thought that Tony was in purgatory and because he is incapable of change he will remain there forever. Perhaps we are in purgatory now. We make our own heaven or hell.
I don’t think it’s confirmed that Chris is speaking posthumously FROM hell the line the hell he went to could of just been the hell he went through if you know what I mean
Yes, Christopher Moltisanti DID go to Hell, but not JUST for Tony. It was for everything that he did. When he went to Hell, there was no Purgatory. Just PAIN. And the first person that he saw was Adriana. She had been waiting for Christopher, she couldn't wait to see him! And she showed no mercy even though he tried to explain to her why he betrayed her and after he BEGGED her for forgiveness and BEGGED her to give him mercy. For there was no mercy and forgiveness to be given in Hell. There was just PAIN. .....The End...
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Ths most unbelievable part of sopranos is when Tony was able to hold Christophers nose with 1 hand..... that things like a natural canopy
You can't make stuff like that up, good one.
@@koDaffi You guys keep stealing jokes from Richie Aprielle and you may need a ramp to get into your house.
@@tren35 love it 😅
@UCMnOKKXE9zZBMQh4hiwj87A Fuck you talkin about? He just did!
Little hands
He talks pretty calmly for a guy that’s being tormented for all eternity.
Maybe hell is just like really boring. Like being stuck in the DMV all day.
Purgatory
He’s on a smoke break.
He only talks calmly because hes semi connected with the Tony Soprano crew.
He’s in purgatory. Figure he’ll have to 5,000 years. But thats nothing in infinity terms. I can do that standing on my head.
Christopher didn’t go to hell for Tony. He went to hell for the life he lived. He had countless opportunities to put that life in his rear view, but just like his addiction, he always came crawling back for more.
FACTS!
Dude was a sociopath with very few redeeming qualities. And only rarely had introspection. And, even in his 'outside ventures', he acted like a POS. At the end of the day, he loved the mob life and the thrill of it all..
Christopher went to hell because of himself
But he was loyle to his capo.
But the life he lived was in service of Tony Soprano...
So yeah... he went FOR Tony.
Doesn't mean that Christopher isn't to blame... he made the choices that he made, without a gun to his head (most of the time)... but he made those decisions in SERVICE OF TONY.
Remember... He helped get rid of Ralph's body without question or hesitation... He sold out Adrianna, and he went ahead and killed that cop even after he had the (all but) certain knowledge that the man didn't whack his father.
And now we know who actually DID whack his father...
Titsoon.
Ok guys, you heard it here first!!! The Many Saints of Newark is Christopher’s screen play. That’s why he’s doing the out of place voice over and it doesn’t quite match Tony’s memories, his Dad is painted in a reasonably good light with an excuse explaining his drug addiction ‘rumour’, we never find out actually who killed his Dad (because he didn’t know), Junior is mocked (he was writing it around the time he had Brendon killed) and finally it is the reason it is shit.
Oh!!!!!!!
I was reading this thinking it's an interesting theory then the last line made me legit laugh 👏
Makes sense to me, kinda like all those super-shitty Stephen King books and movies from the 80's during his "coke years."
The roof is soft tar!
@@bigsav1984 I second that ,lol
The scene where Junior says “he works for me now” and Tony looks devastated becomes entirely different if Tony did at some point become aware that Junior had Dickie Whacked.
Tony didn’t want Junior to have Christopher anywhere near him, because Junior had been known in the past to take contracts out on people who did something that Junior perceived as disrespectful towards him. Even if it was entirely harmless.
Tony was attempting to protect Christopher from the same fate as his father at the hands of his uncle.
The Many Saints of Newark didn't explore that enough
Wouldn't it have been Livia Soprano tho? Remember that Tony hates Livia more than Junior . Theres also speculation that Livia was manipulating JR. Theres even a scene where tells livia 'You know, everyone thought Dad was the ruthless one. But I gotta hand it to you. If you'd been born after those feminists, you woulda been the real gangster.' Livia speaks in Doublespeak . Meaning Tony finds out the truth later in the years, but it was probably Livia who manipulated JR in doing it.
That is an interesting way to look at that scene now, but I'm willing to bet that it wasn't originally written with that backstory in mind. In fact I'm totally on team "they came up with Junior having Dickie whacked purely to have a "shocking" twist near the end"
considering that he almost had Chris wacked but Livia stops him he doesnt even bat an eye on killing his own nephew
You’re very observant. The sacred and the propane.
Very allegorical.
Profane
Moral of the story is: Your are not responsible for who you attract, but you are responsible for who you entertain.
Christopher is basically the deuteragonist of the show, the character has almost as much depth as Tony.
In the very first episode of the series, Christopher committed first-degree murder. (And with no go-ahead from Tony or even telling him beforehand.) Christopher’s actions were his own choices, and on his own head.
It was ordered from Tony. Tony Narrating told the story.
Chris says I'll handle it Tony asks him are you over your stomach ache Chris says yes and Tony says Good so it was actually Okayed by him
He was absolutely mental.....? basically a serial killer.
he said hell is an Irish bar where everyday is st. patty's day...doesn't sound that bad. even for an Italian mafioso, it beats a lake of fire.
Certainly sounds better
Also note that when Tony is in his coma, his name is Kevin Finnerty, an Irish name.
I wonder if when a Irish mobster went to hell they went to a classy Italian restaurant
@@villiannewyork irish hell is called " Northern Ireland "
@@BudDylan haha, damn.
"Yo T, I'm in hell."
Sorry I am late
I'll see you at 3 o'clock.
I mean everytime Christopher made excuses they were just that excuses. It was his way of weaseling out of doing something other than being normal. I'm not saying Tony wasn't an influence but Christopher made those decisions; he wanted the life. Christopher went to Hell for his own means not Tony.
Also, when Tony grabbed Chrissy and when he told him to basically make a decision in or out Tony would have supported it. The same way he reluctantly supported Tony Blundetto it was Tony B like Christopher made those decisions because they couldn't live outside of the life.
Also, when it comes to the cop who allegedly killed his father that was Tony's way of pulling Christopher close to him while testing his loyalty. This was all after the Jackie Jr BS. Christopher has a penchant for being disrespectful even to Tony at times. Seeing as Tony fears jail but wants to remain the boss he wants to use Christopher as his front but he needs him to be 100% loyal and in a way indebted to him. So this power move is his way of doing it and it worked. After theh hit Christopher says " What you did for me the F who killed my father. I'd follow you to Hell."
But here's the thing Christopher already condemned his soul to hell on his own when he killed the Polish guy at Satriales.
That was all of Christopher's doing he volunteered he made the decision to murder the guy; his first murder. He wanted in the life and only had doubts when he felt that he was not being recognized for his loyalty. Also remember he was always Gung Ho about mafia things in Season 1; like murdering Mikey Palmice for the murder of Brandon Fallone.
Chrissy had the chance to get out and had a wake up call when he got shot. Even Carmella came to him and prayed and give him guidance to change but he never did. He went back to Tony not because Tony had a hold on him but because he wanted the life.
Another time was when he went to get gas and saw the guy with the wife and kids struggling with his family; his crappy clothes and crappy car. Not because of Tony or his love for him or Tonys manipulation. It comes from Christophers lack of maturity he took the easy way. This is why he kept making excuses to not become a writer or director and why he said he will return from a place of wealth.
Yes Tony and the life are bad influences but Christopher going to hell is his own doing. Being in the Mafia for these guys is the easy way to success. They are narcissists, sociopaths. They couldn't hack a regular life. Tony isn't the reason Tony was a means
Livive told the father that if he leave she was going kill the kids. For that partner job at west.
Also, how did Junior manage to get Dickie whacked? Junior had very little clout and wasn't taken seriously by his own crew. The voice speaking to Junior sounded like Paulie. Why would Paulie wack Dickie?
@@mikemacfadyen1972 I think Junior lived off of his brothers clout. He did run Johnny Boys crew when he went to prison; even though Dickie had more respect. Junior could possible call a hit on Dickie and get away with it but that was bad writing. I like that it was Junior who killed Dickie but they should have shown Junior getting more respect atleast to be able to kill Dickie.
@@mikemacfadyen1972 It was Jilly Ruffalo who killed him hes in the credits.
Atleast the palmice murder was justifiable. Palmice killed his good friend. He probably didnt lose a wink of sleep over that murder, and why should he?
Now the emil kolar hit, i can see how thats haunting. He didnt know the guy, they never had an issues with each other personally, and he shot him in the back of the head after luring him in and being nice to his face. We could argue that kolar was a drug dealer and could of been a scumbag sure however theres still that uncertainty due to not knowing the guy
Tony became a gangster because of Junior. Juniors dark shadow over everything. Junior was is the ultimate villain in this. He is directly responsible for the downfall of Tony and consequently Chris as well.
Tony is gangster because he wanted to be one. It little partly his mom and dad. At one point the father wanted to leave and go partner with this guy guess what happen?.
@@sophiawilson8696 Maybe Tony is a gangster because he never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Mr Mugoo?
Tony became a gangster bc of Dickie bro lmao that was the pinkey promise at the end of the movie 🤦🏻♂️
Wrong. What a bad theory
That's Christopher alright, ruins his own life with his bad choices and then blames other people for it! Maybe it's unkind of me but I really don't have any sympathy for Christopher.
Common theme in the entire show. None of the guys take responsibility for their actions. Always blaming others & lying.
@@adamspeckert7296 Paulie wants to let you know that he takes full responsibility. But that he didn't do nothing.
He’s a sociopath so don’t beat yourself up
Chrissy was a likeably character to a degree, but he was also a moron. All the capable people wound up dead or turning rat except for Sil and that is up for debate.
@@tedwojtasik8781 Well in regards to Silvio, he ended up in Lilyhammer so it all worked out for him 😊
Dicky wasn’t a very calm composed character. He killed his father out of rage. Then his comare.
They did not explore that enough
in season 1 chrissy says to his buddy before the hijacking that all he ever wanted was to be part of tonys crew since he was a lil kid so chrissy is like henry hill and jimmy
Most of Chris’s murders were not under orders from Tony….as a matter of fact he pissed Tony off over the first guy he killed, Amil…because he didn’t have permission. The last of Chris’s murders also happened without Tony’s permission or knowledge, RJ who was Chris’s NA/AA sponsor. Chris was hellbound regardless of Tony.
You should really make a video on how insecure Chris is in the series. It’s almost his core character trait. I think the path he chose is definitely more of a constant internal struggle with his insecurities and self esteem.
For a guy who's supposed to be burning in the Lake of Fire he is talking like he's having a normal conversation at a bar
Hes stuck in an irish bar for eternity where its st Patricks day every day
Christopher went to hell for the same reason everyone goes to hell: he did not, in his heart, accept Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior. He made no effort whatsoever to know God, to serve God, or to allow God to change him. Christopher's God was himself. In the end we are all sinners, and sin separates us from God. You don't need to be in the mafia. You don't need to be a murderer. You don't need to be anything but human, and you are going to hell, period. Jesus is the only alternative.
Some hell, lol. It looked and sounded like a party in the after life. Mikey and Blundetto were no saints but they seemed to be having a good time on the other side. Mikey playing dice with his friends and having a good laugh at Paulies expense. Blundetto greeting people outside a really flash looking place, relaxed and smiling. What nice afterlife for gangsters 😂🎉
I always thought Chris looking at the normal family coming out of the shop when he was considering whether to choose Tony or Adrianna was about her not being able to have kids. He makes it clear several times how important having kids is to him, and how he doesn't want the Moltisanti name to die with him and that he doesn't want to adopt. When it zooms in on the kids I figured that was Chris thinking about the fact that in a future with Adrianna he could never have that.
That's a good theory! I think though that if it had shown a loving, calm side of family life then he'd totally be like: "screw her, she can't give me kids anyway." But the chaos and poverty/middle class exhibited shows him what'd it'd be like if he got a real job under witness protection. He has no real skills, no real work ethic, and there's nothing really glamorous about a 9-5. I think he wimped out. He sacrificed Adrianna so he could keep the easy money and the status.
Maybe but I think it’s more he saw a reminder of what it would be like to be a minimum wage schnook. Chrissy’s greatest fear was to become a poor, unaccomplished nobody.
For sure because of him, but as well For Him.
He served him in life, and he'll serve him in hell. Chris allowed himself to be spiritually enslaved to Tony in life, and he'll forever be under Tony's spiritual domination in the afterlife.
Note: I don't believe in an actual afterlife
@@serotoninsyndrome I asked this in an Argumentation class: Should Atheists sell their soul to the devil?
What exactly did Christopher do leading up to the first episode, where he would make "millions" selling his life story?
Have you seen the film and the entire series? This episode takes place around 1997-1999. Tony is just turning 40, Chris is around 28-30 years old in this scene and he has been "running around" with the Tony Soprano crew for around 10 years at this point. It's explained during the series that Chris dropped out of high school and started hanging around Tony in his late teens.
@@R49_Complete That doesn't explain what Chris actually did that would be worth making a movie about. Unless I missed something, we don't hear about anything specific. Just what you said, he dropped out of high school and started doing some work for tony.
For all we know, he spent a decade being low level muscle. Just collecting debts or something like that.
Obviously we can imagine it was a little more interesting than that, as he was basically Tony's personal assistant in the first episode.
@@thegoodolddays9193 Chrissy was talking shit, plain and simple. He may have thought his story would sell and make him millions but the story had already been told before so he really had nothing to offer.
@@thegoodolddays9193 state tax collector
You misunderstand. He wouldn't have actually made millions, it's just what Chris thinks he'd get because he's dumb, arrogant and his idea for success as a gangster is being able to be a Scarface-level baller with a giant mansion rather than a very nice house and a garbage company to funnel your cash through.
I know it's largely because it's how we're trained to think of these things as a product of a mentality and moral system that was created well before we had much of a scientific understanding of ideas like "free will" (at least of the "libertarian" kind) and the false dichotomy of "nature vs nurture". But I see a lot of these things discussed like there was a ton of intent and thought behind it when in reality that's just not usually how it works and even when it kinda does it's rarely that simple.
I'm "mixed" Sicilian and Black and came up between largely Italian and Sicilian neighborhoods and predominantly black neighborhoods during the 80's and 90's. I saw both D-Boys and wise guys and best believe we looked up to em. In the middle of the horror show that was Brooklyn and Memphis back then with the crack era in full force, desperate poverty everywhere, all that, those fancy clothes, jewelry and cars seemed like something to aspire to. But we were kids! We didn't really understand what that meant. We barely put together that the fly ass clothes and fixed up cars were the direct result of the poison in the neighborhood or anything like that, we didn't see people get beat cause they owed money, and a lotta what we did see seemed justified in a weird way But from a young age it was attractive and we gravitated towards it even as we got older.
When it's your whole family and most everybody ya know or it's all around ya all the time and the only ones ya see eating well are gangsters of some kinds, what hungry, hopeless kid wouldn't look up to that. They get respect while you get spit on, they're taken care of while you're scraping by, they have everything and you got less than nothing.
And you don't just start out shooting people. Ya start out doing small penny ante bs and it slowly progresses over time. You're slowly desensitized to it over a long period, and it had already been normalized long before that.
Another huge aspect few ever mention is even if ya never get involved and don't really wanna go into the life (whatever that may be) just living in proximity to it makes it all too easy to turn to should something ever happen. For some it's that their ticket out is crushed through no fault of their own and they fall back on the only thing they know, some they need money, maybe even for a noble cause like helping someone they love pay for medical care, others someone they love gets hurt and they feel it's on them to get justice the only way they know how. Either way often times all roads lead to the life no matter what your plans were.
Just like the kid who's pops was a union guy working down the shore often knows he's following in his pop's footsteps, kids in the hood or coming up around wise guys feel the same. It's no different. It becomes just as reasonable a career path as bagging groceries or working a warehouse.
None of that is to excuse anything or say it's good. Just to say that even while the outcomes can be horrific, the motive, the evil, nefarious narrative that's often built around it is more often than not completely disconnected from reality and is just a way to ignore all the root causes. I gang banged and hustled for many years til I found a way out and at no point was it really what I wanted to be doing, it was just the best of bad options in a place with no opportunity and from a perspective that never even planned to live long enough to see many consequences, unless I ended up in a cage indefinitely. It's mad complicated and outdated moralizing isn't the answer 🙌
Great insight man, hope you're doing better now.
Am I the only one who finds it strange he doesn’t mention Tony being in hell too?
T is on that sunny hill with Janet's husband Richie...
That would have been David Chase CONFIRMING that Tony was whacked at the end of the series and he's a frustrating ambigious sod, he'll never do that, though we all know Tony is dead.
No cause Tony didn't die.
@@thereccher8746 - Don't be silly. Seriously.
@@thereccher8746 Tony B did die
He killed his father, I wouldn't say he was more composed
Great analysis in my opinion, but I think I would have to disagree with why Christopher said he wishes he was born before RICO. Although one of Tony's biggest motivations for killing him is the realization that Christopher's baby would have been killed in the wreck, he also does it because Chris is on drugs and is a risk to be arrested and flip because of his drug addiction. If RICO didnt exist, Tony likely would have less of a reason to kill him, and maybe Christopher would have had more of a prolonged life. Thats my take on his statement, overall great video though!
The last season was rushed and Tony killing Chrissy on the spur of the moment was silly. The show was long building a rivalry. Tony used and abused a young man he should have kept out of the life from the start. Christopher grew increasingly bitter and resentful. A whole season arc where maybe Christopher’s resentment causes him to sell Tony out would be interesting. Maybe he sells Tony out or maybe it just looks like he does but doesn’t and Tony kills him only to discover the sell out was someone else and he feels bad.
Chris is sitting in an Irish bar with nothing on the menu but corned beef & cabbage & O'Danny Boy playing on the juke box over & over again. He's in hell
Well... he said that's where he is, and he said that's why he's there, so...
Yeah... he went to hell FOR Tony... not because of Tony.
Christopher chose to do the things he did, and most of it was to impress Tony.
Tony definetly contributed to his dammation, both by inspiring him and by encouraging him to keep walking the path to hell, but Chris is still the one who walked it.
He’s definitely was my favorite character, I honestly wish that if they were gonna kill him off, they should’ve done it at the final episode instead of early!
Good catch! Tony didn't help, but it's likely he would've gotten involved in the Mafia even without Tony. I imagine in another life he was hanging around Johnny Boy's crew and he welcomed him in as a favor to his deceased father.
True and without Tony’s protection he might’ve ended up like Brendan falone
Chris was a boss who just never reached his full potential.
He went to purgatory. But all jokes aside, I think he did because he doesn't sound like he's tormented.
Probably isnt tormented cos he fits right in down there he was a real piece of shit.
@@nedkelly3251 Could be the case..
Purgatory is only reserved for souls already bound for Heaven. Chris was never seen in a church in the entire show that I remember, and he had no remorse for his decisions at the time of his death.
@@crewded8630so only people who go to church go to heaven?
@@IIDEADBIRDII Only people who love Christ go to heaven.
Christopher did not go to hell for Tony because every man must answer for his own sins
10:28 He saw that mullet and was like "Hell no! That could *NEVER* BE ME!!!"
Christopher was a toxic person, even moreso than Tony. He advanced well beyond his capabilities solely due to his relationship with Tony, then turned around and blamed Tony for every shortcoming and difficulty in his life.
Classic toxic person traits.
>>He advanced well beyond his capabilities solely due to his relationship with Tony
Hmmm...when Chrissy chooses Tony over Adrianna...I never thought it's bc he feels he'll have a "boring life" as a family man when he seen that family at the gas station.
I think it's actually bc he already knows he CAN'T have kids with Adrianna...& we all know Chrissy wants to have kids.
He had to choose Tony. He was not married to Adrianna and siding with her would violate the Mafia code. Family first and everything else second.
Yes Chris would have gone to hell, no repentance no putting faith in Jesus along with the rest of the Sopranos crew.
You don't sit around in hell narrating movies where you wish you could have done better at what sent you there. Hell is a place of eternal torment. That has never been disputed by anybody.
Chrissy didn't go to hell. He's in purgatory, my friend.
Hmm maybe, but part of the torment is not just physical pain and being burned and pitchforked , it’s the emotional torment being stuck with the regret of everything you did that landed you where you are
Great video and good insight, i would suggest leveling the volumes a bit more so some parts of the video aren't lower/higher than others.
Thanks for watching! Hopefully the next one is more even
9:15 I know Alexithymia. Studies show something like 90 percent of males have it, due to society norms suppressing emotion in men.
It's not understanding ones emotions, so they manifest in ways that can lead men to making decisions thay don't fully understand the motivation behind.
Crazy sopranos tries to isolate it to antisocial personalities, but it shows the age of the program.
You know
Quasimodo predicted all this
Lol 😆 🤣
As far as the truth about the question posed, like Mikey Palmice in Tony's dream, "I got no opinion, one way or the other" but it is presumptuous to conclude that that comment means what it is claimed to mean in the video. He could have meant that given that he WAS part of that "life" his life would have been easier in hindsight if he had been part of it before RICO was introduced. For one thing, there wouldn't have been the tremendous concern with whether or not he was a heroin addict because there weren't such severe penalties for being involved in organized crime, neither in terms of what they could threaten the addict with in order to get him to "flip" nor what would be brought down upon those he would testify against.
I love your analysis!
Thank you!
Wait you opened my eyes the reason why tmsonw sucks is because it was written by chris this is why the movie sucked on a fundamental level look even the anagram tmsonw has the word son in it which is chris the son of dickie it all makes sense david is 5 steps ahead truely a genius
Christopher didn't go to hell for Tony. He went to hell with Tony.
He's a soldier. Soldiers don't go to hell.
As a Catholic who's a proponent of Universal Reconciliation, my question is this: what makes any Christian believe that God would forsake any of his creatures to an eternal "hell" of painful torture, fire, brutality, etc.? If one believes that, then this represents a serious misreading of The Gospels. For some fantastic context, do yourself a favor and read "That All Shall be Saved" by David Bentley Hart.
Yeah, I've always thought that the concept of an eternal hell is very sick and twisted.
Hopefully he’s enjoying playing dice with his dad and those Roman soldiers in the Irish bar
Also, he's already in hell. That's what addiction is.
Dayum
It wasnt the boring life it was the life of a lower middle class person.
I’d like to make a small request if you could point out the differences between how New Jersey and New York made their members. I just watched the scene and remembered that Phil mentioned no sword and gun …I’d just like to see the major differences if you can great channel keep up the great work!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE increase your volume! When you go between your narration and the clips it was so loud it woke up my girlfriend from the other room! Please work on your editing work, great video btw other than that :)
With Tony in his life he lasted a lot longer then he would have in another crew.
A character like Christopher Moltisanti would go to hell for the many murders he has committed and arranged to have committed.
It was about 3 episodes in to season 1 on HBO's streaming services that I realized I would need to own the box set
“since the movie industry would have provided the same excitement” ….
What I find most impressive is that Tony was able to cover Christopher’s natural canopy with such small hands.
That’s not very nice.
He went to purgatory, my friend. A little detour on the way to paradise. Add up all your mortal sins and multiply that number by 50. The you add up all your venial sins and multiply that by 25. Add them together and that's your sentence. A few thousand years is nothing in eternity terms. He could do that standing on his head. It's like a couple of days.
So outside of Hitler and Stalin who ever really goes to Hell?
Commenting before watching the full thing:
He went to hell because of Tony, not for him
Not for tony, he went to hell only because of him, if tony shall we say selling patio furniture at Route 22, Christopher was in the mob that way or the other.
Where is Tony's grave?
So tony was just being selfish I mean manipulating the dude to fuck up his sobriety? Just shows that people may want u to do good but not too good
No, and he's probably there because he blames Tony for his own mistakes. He can't get out until he serves his time there with full admission of his own guilt. Tony didn't make him kill the Russian kid in season 1, didn't make him kill that waiter, didn't make him try to kill the Russian, didn't make him kill the screenwriter, etc.
You cannot atone your way out of Hell, the point of atonement is that you have to do it on the material plane when you still have time and things to lose so you don't end up in Hell for eternity.
@@vishaansingh1019Nah.
@@jfrsnjhnsn What is your source for Hell? Your own made-up religion? Because it certainly isn't any of the Abrahamic ones. Christopher died as a practicing Catholic and is in the Catholic Hell.
5:10
When was it ever implied the hit wasn’t approved.
Not only was it an order but he later tells Tony after doing it he shoulda been made right then.
In TheBeginning...
Tony just Wanted to "Use" Christopher, Until He (Tony) Knew For Sure He Was "TheBoss".
Then He'd Give His "Orders" Through Christopher, So That *If/When* TheTime For "Indictments" or "TheLaw" Came Calling, He'd Have a "ScapeGoat" Named Christopher.
(Until He Murdered Him...)
The movie kinda confirms the supernatural realm of the series
Everyone misunderstands the part when chris saw the family. He knew Adriana couldn't have kids, and would never have have a family with her he makes a family after this
Right
That part in the movie with Tony with baby Christopher is very chilling
the lesson of the wedding clothes shows no malignant narcissist/sociopath ever receive the invitation to begin with...
According to a few sources I've read, if you refuse during the ceremony, you're dead. It was seen as an indication that you're compromised.
All those guys went to hell for the deeds they did…..sheeeeeeeeiit.
Cool wrap up. I agree with your summation.
Nah, he's spouting bollox*
Did Christopher go to hell?
Short answer: Yes
Long Answer: Yeah seriously he did
He’s in purgatory! He just thinks it’s hell!
Please there is no purgatory! It hell. It you Catholics made it up.
@@sophiawilson8696 lol no it’s purgatory! You take all your sins multiple it by 1000 that’s how many years you do in purgatory so for example if I get 50 thousand years in purgatory that’s nothing to an eternity in heaven.
@@axelnahanee250 LoL!
@@sophiawilson8696 The story told in the Sopranos is from a Catholic point of view.
@@nedkelly3251 oh I didn’t know that I thought Paulie made it, interesting
if you turn down a button at the making ceremony you are not leaving that room alive
I don’t think that the mafia was just a means to get into the movies, I mean I think he saw it as a bonus that could help him get there financially but I don’t think that was the sole reason he joined plus in one episode he is talking to one of his friends and he does say that he wanted to be a part of the Tony soprano crew since he was a little kid. Also I think Tony would’ve still loved Christopher even if he didn’t want to join the mafia because in the first couple seasons it’s pretty clear Christopher is begging to be made but it feels like if he didn’t want to go that route he would still be in Tony’s life but Tony’s biggest issue with Christopher was that he wants to be In the mafia but he constantly kept screwing things up because of his drug problems or whatever else. When Tony’s giving him the option it’s not really Tony saying that you have to join the mafia it’s him saying you need to make up your mind and if you want to do this you need to be focused because it’s not something you can halfway do and sometimes be in the mafia and sometimes wanna work legit because that’s going to lead to problems.
It's very likely that the character Christopher Moltisanti was cursed to be who he was for 2 reasons. 1. Based on who his father was, the genetics of not only drugs and alcohol but the deadly temper were wired into Chris. and 2. Based on who his family was and the company his father kept, he was groomed to be part of the mafia without any alternatives. Having said that, for some reason a lot of Sopranos fans have a much more sympathetic opinion of Christopher than I do. I think he was a selfish scumbag and that is all there is to describe him. Well, maybe dumb too. He went to hell because of Tony not just because Tony killed him but because Tony groomed him from the start to be part of the mafia and do many of the things he did. Having said that AT NO POINT was Christopher going to hell FOR Tony. Even his "fascination" with screenwriting was nothing more than a reference to Joey Gallo and his dream of hobnobbing with Hollywood elite and being treated within elite circles as elite himself. Same as mafia, when he was on the fast track to becoming a mafia boss by the age of 45 he was willing to do almost anything to get to that CEO like level. When his own problems caused him to lose favor with his fellow mobsters and Tony, at that point he became more detached and resentful. Even Adriana, he did what he did for 2 reasons. 1. He didn't want to live like Henry Hill described when he went into the witness protection program as an "average nobody". and 2. He knew that although he could have been killed for the situation despite him not personally being a rat or hiding her situation as a rat, that because Tony still had a hard time killing him outside of absolute necessity and that he would have been in some ways respected for being willing to do what he did, he'd survive and stay in the mafia circles. Everything about him was about self success and self preservation, similar to many of the mobsters on the show but probably more so than any other mobster and man was that a high bar on that show. In the end, he literally went to hell for his character as a person, a selfish prick who was killed not simply because he was high or could have killed his daughter driving her while high let alone the mob boss, but a guy who wanted Tony to bail him out of his predicament because all he knew was to see everyone for what he could get out of them.
He went to the Eternal Irish Bar where its St Patty's Day 24/7. He like his dad will play against these Roman Soldiers losing his card hand and get his head bashed in repeatedly. He will also meet Brendon, Jackie Jr, Johnny Sack, Phil Leotardo, and Adriana herself .
Christopher, at one point, said that all he wanted when he was a kid was to be a part of Tony’s crew
It's not hell. It's poygetory. Hell is hat
😂😂 this got me good
Christopher never went to hell because hell doesn’t exist. We all just go to the Astro plane and eventually come back to Earth!
Chris had good heart, being around Tony who use him do his dirty work. Chris try go free Tony dose not want him too go.
Good point at the end. I overlooked that line during the movie.
I thought it pulled everything together very well. Thanks for watching!
The thing I don't buy is Chris implying he's gone to hell for Tony but somehow Tony hasn't...?
i justo love the idea to have Chris as a narrator, even i would like It to have more lines
6000 years is nuttin in eternity terms
Ur videos are awesome and I'm not sure if this observation has already been made but @1:28.
Christopher and Carmela had sophisticated cousins and so i feel they were striving for that level of esteem, if I'm expressing myself correctly lol.
Okay I'm getting outta comments hell and pay attn until FIN. 😆
Christopher did a lot of terrible things that were not even mob related where he wasnt just following orders and doing what he had to do.
He shot JT Dolan dead. He killed Adriana's dog...I know it was a drug induced accident but still. He sided with Tony and let Adriana be killed rather than go into witness protection.
I know he grew up in a poor culture with very bad guidance but if there is a judgement coming I'm not sure his would be very favorable based on his deeds. And the fact that he had a legitimate chance to leave that life behind and failed to take it.
Does anyone ever mention the fact that that pinky swear means nothing. He does the exact opposite of what they swore on. So the emphasis on the pinky swear at the end makes no sense
Thats actually the topic of one of the next few videos I have lined up!
@@bullywhispers9544 no shit...cool.im subscribed now so ill see it
Your assessment of Chris is dead wrong. His monolog in the beginning of The Many Saints of Newark is not in the absence of Tony, its thru the eyes of Christopher after he lived a life as a soldier for Tony. This is not a speech given in some other universe, separate from his life on the Sopranos, it's just after he died. He is referring to how much easier that life would have been if it was before RICO. It is not inferring that he would have never been anything but a gangster, it is simply saying the life he lead would have been more lucrative and with less fear of being arrested. Your way off.
You can probably decline being made BEFORE the sermony .. if you bail on the night itself they may not take it as well
Didn’t anybody catch Joey Peeps headstone as well? that dyslexic Jason Molinaro never fixed it like Sil told him to
So what's with the cat? Chrissy or Ade?
The Russian!!! Hahaha
Malanga
Quasimodo predicted all of this...
We are the product of our choices. I've always thought that Tony was in purgatory and because he is incapable of change he will remain there forever. Perhaps we are in purgatory now. We make our own heaven or hell.
I don’t think it’s confirmed that Chris is speaking posthumously FROM hell the line the hell he went to could of just been the hell he went through if you know what I mean
But you can hear other dead people speaking as the camera moves through the cemetery.
Yes, Christopher Moltisanti DID go to Hell, but not JUST for Tony. It was for everything that he did. When he went to Hell, there was no Purgatory. Just PAIN. And the first person that he saw was Adriana. She had been waiting for Christopher, she couldn't wait to see him! And she showed no mercy even though he tried to explain to her why he betrayed her and after he BEGGED her for forgiveness and BEGGED her to give him mercy. For there was no mercy and forgiveness to be given in Hell. There was just PAIN. .....The End...
Where did you get this?