List of tools tested that don't suck here: www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel *Edit:* We're hearing at least a few people who have bought the new Earthquake DID get a 1/4" NPT adapter in their box. So that could be one less thing to worry about. The creator of this channel is working in product development for Astro tools which includes impacts wrenches just like these! Always consider multiple sources when considering a tool.
@@kazzxtrismus We're already at 3/8" The M18 mid torque in 3/8" is right up against the limit, air tools now are closing in on 3/8" as well. DCF961 is the limit of 1/2", we've tested with a nitrous fed gas powered Milwaukee even higher: th-cam.com/video/JKXuFwB6lo0/w-d-xo.html but the real limit shows itself in the shaking, vibration and utter rejection of the tool not wanting to live life in 1/2". There's a significant amount of torque being left on the table of those top examples by not being 3/4" drive, wasted as heat, vibration, and just imbalance of hammering.
I feel like an inline battery screwdriver with any real torque would just twist out of your hand, but I've never seen one with much torque to worry about. I doubt the dyno's we have could measure them in a precise enough fashion to crown one as the best. Edit: Good idea on the nylock nut gauntlet though, these are more about speed than peak torque
@@TorqueTestChannel that's fair, but RPM and battery life would be good to see on their own, especially given the difference between RPM free vs under load and lack of consistency between brands on measuring methods
@@TorqueTestChannel just as an idea also, I could see running a screw through a nylock nut with varying screw diameters could be a potential method of testing low torque numbers?
Testing the 1896 and shedding light on why you dont typically test air 3/4 impacts was much appreciated. I am a diesel mechanic and we have what is i believe a 150 gal compressor, with 3/4 hoses with 1/2 fittings and 3/8 hoses with 1/4 fittings. Our max pressure is around 160psi and i have a Cornwell CAT3225 and she has handled everything i threw at her without breaking a sweat
I'm just now upgrading my home shop to those specs (but with multiple compressors for electrical reasons, running two three phase compressors off a rotary phase converter slashes starting loads) and should have done that many years ago!
I've been wonder the same, our shop has a similar air set at 170psi, and mt service truck would sit at 160psi. I have the Cornwell 3/4 as well. It's damn near unstoppable, when it fails there's usually a blue wrench involved after
@@TheCntryson47 only time it couldn't do something was taking off a left rear shock top bolt on a trailer, but that's because I have to reduce down to a 1/2 drive universal then to the 1-1/8 socket to clear the leveling valve, once I took the wheels off and went from the other side, came right off
When buying new air hoses it's wise to go large, and you can run both by using different chucks on the pipe fittings of your choice. I just finished plumbing my main shop using 3/4" ID red industrial air hose and Chicago couplings. (If I score an engine-driven compressor of size I'll simply add larger hose where that matters and have more CFM throughout.) I configure my shops like a job site or military deployment where everything can be easily rearranged to suit added equipment or efficiency and convenience improvements. Stepping down from large hose is easy plumbing. Explore available fittings and it will be obvious how to get what you want. Industrial air hose is rugged, doesn't corrode, I can quickly add compressors (it's much easier to add lower HP compressors by pneumatic connection than spend far more money wiring say a 10HP or larger single compressor). My flexible wiring is high quality SOOW cable with proper connectors (worth it over hard wiring for easy maintenance and reconfig). All my compressors are mobile for easy maintenance and cleaning. I use large round shank scaffolding casters slid into pipe sections welded to the simple chassis I fabbed for my two 5 HP ("industrial" 5HP not bullshit consumer trash wishful thinking 5HP, consumer compressor mfrs are con artists like air and electric tool sellers!). I got tired of baby compressors because I got tired of outsourcing sand blasting. A cheap but VERY important addition to my shop air is a large industrial receiver tank. Most hobbyists don't know they exist let alone the glorious surge capacity they offer. I use a USB borescope to inspect all my tanks (they're cheap online and fun to use) because explosions are bad. You can locate your compressor someplace quiet or otherwise convenient then place the receiver tank close to point of use.
I just bought a dcb891 after watching your tests and could not be more pleased. Thank you for providing this service. Like project farm, you are weeding out the chaff and providing us with invaluable information.
Milton high flow couplers/plugs don’t last with impacts. We changed our whole shop over to them but they literally just erode away with impacts because they are made out of extremely soft metal
@@LordOfSilense Are you not using the stainless plugs? The Aluminum ones are damage prone, I use them on some paint guns but for simplicity all my auto tools are stainless Milton V plugs. Some of the generic non milton v plugs leak in the milton v couplers, and can chew up the o rings.
We used milton high flow 3/8" with 1/2" hose on the 3/4" impact, on the 1/2" impact it makes almost half that difference in torque from air delivery change
My old Mac/IR gun is dying a slow death. 10 years. Old tried rebuilding it poor man style. Figured id do some research as im a mechanic in the rusty canada. Found this channel and picked up the Thor g2 1/2. Running 3/8 line a fitting. Its the best gun ive used so far. A bit big. But everything comes off like its loose lol. And im still learning the ugga duggas for tight. Love this channel!
shops that work on passenger vehicles use 1/4 fittings, shops that work on Heavy Duty/Industrial equipment use the 3/8. AWESOME CHANNEL, I appreciate what you are doing.
We own & operate 6 Tire & auto repair businesses & have never needed more that 1/4 on passenger vehicles but honestly out of 14 mechanics I probably only have 2 that use air guns today as they have all went battery power. Our shop that works on 3/4 ton trucks & up was plumbed for 3/8 when we built it.@@keepingdistance4404
So cool that you help to develope the Asteo Pneumatic Tools and Always love seeing Eric O beat rhe snot out of them 8:00 and Love that new Infinite variable trigger on the new Thor
The fact that battery operated tools are getting as powerful as air tools is the last nail in the coffer of DIY’s using air. No big compressor No airlines to manage All the benefits and none of the cons, other then life of the battery. But compressor is way more expansive to manage then batteries.
My old man got rid of almost all of his air tools and has been using electric for about the last 10 years of his career at a Case IH dealership. He got tired of fighting the spaghetti monster every time he needed an air tool and having to bring a portable compressor with him when he had to fix something in the field. A few years ago him and one of the other guys in his shop decided to have a competition on which tools were better using a frame bolt on a Quadtrac. The other guy cranked up the air on his new SnapOn impact and tightened the bolt, and dad took it off with his M18 Impact without any trouble. Then he tightened the bolt back down with his M18 and the other guy sat there for 5 mins trying to get it off with his SnapOn impact before admitting defeat. He ended up selling the SnapOn and bought the M18. Now the entire shop has converted to the M18 and the owner even bought a 2868 to replace their aging 1" air impact when he built the new shop.
i will stubbornly stick to air, at least until i find a electric impact with a big slow hammer (i can't stand the way cordless impacts sound). The only cordless impact i've seen that i didn't mind was a milwaukee 3\4 d handle. Slower impact speed with bigger hits. It also weighed a metric shitton though.
When u use extension and swivels sockets on an electric impact the air one wins everytime. Idk what it is about electrics but they have no balls when it comes to extensions and swivel sockets
@@ronsimmaculatedetailing6335 I believe it is the slack and inherent “flex” of longer shafts and linkages. Think of it like a spring on top of a nail’s head. If you use small hand hummer and you drop it on top, the spring will absorb the energy and the nail will go in just a bit. Do that with bigger hummer and it will compress the spring and still have energy left to hammer the nail in more. Lighter hammers try compensating by having higher speed in order to hit the “spring” the second time before it unwinds completely and get a better energy transfer. This is why some bolts like Honda crank need special weighted socket otherwise the nature of the bolt will have you go in circle as in, by the time second hummer hits the bolt sprang back to starting position because there is not enough mass counteracting the spring back of the assembly. But it has to be not to heavy or else you bog down your gun, making it not being able to deliver the power in the first place. He has videos on it as well as his own take. Highly recommended.
I can’t wait for the new Milwaukee testing 😅 shop tool reviews took the testing over 2,000 ft lbs of torque on a nut. We don’t even need that but sheesh. Can’t wait for the dyno
Someone else mentioned electric screwdrivers. I second that, but I’d also like to see how much torque you get from the clutches on cordless drill drivers. I assume there’s a good reason that they are all in arbitrary units instead of torque ranges. But I’d like to know if I could get an estimated torque. Or simply understand how unreliable they are. :)
Worked at a company that manufactured off shore oil platform and natural gas pipeline equipment, and we ran two air hoses to large impacts. For higher torques, we had a hydraulic ram that ran a ratchet. Don't know how much torque that made, we just used the hydraulic pressure value that the engineers gave us. No way a human could hold that kind of torque, had to rest it against an adjacent bolt.
The Makita is a $300 bare tool including shipping if bought from amazon japan. All in, no tax. I just bought the 891 mid torque, thinking that 3/4 inch is the way to go on a modern high torque. Waiting to see if the 961 is going to be 3/4 as I have the batteries and charger already. Really like that xgt though. Would like to see a heat comparison of the batteries and tool 961, 2967, xgt. The comparison of the xgt batterys suggests that maybe we have reached the point where a step up in voltage makes sense.
Never had a Harbor Freight tool that didn’t work great out of the box, problem is they don’t last. Wouldn’t even consider a daily user tool from Harbor Freight
Harbor Freight is the perfect stop for tools I consider in the "one and done" category. If I'm only going to need the tool once or on rare occasions I'll consider them (if I can't borrow or rent). When I was a working technician though I would rarely touch the stuff- the tolerances, materials strength and durability wasn't good enough for me. I think I've broken every HF tool I've acquired over the years. Even a Dremel knockoff died on me after a day of use.
@@afellowinnewengland6142 Learn how to use them. 🤣 Every brand name tool I ever used was done before getting it home. So they all suck if they cost more than $1. 🤣 What an Idiot. Just because you say some BS doesn’t make it true. I fully expect you to from now on buy only $ store tools. Ok, cause I just told you everything else sucks and I must be expert cause I posted this comment on TH-cam , the mother of all “trust me bro” cult knowledge 🤣 In the meantime the Chinese making the $10 dollar “brand name tool” that you will spend $300 on are laughing 😂
I bought the ultra torque 2 weeks ago before the store even had them on display. It came with the adapter for 3/8 to 1/4 on mine. Not sure why yours didn’t come with an adapter. Impact has been an absolute monster so far
Got mine yesterday and it came with the adaptor also . Mine also off and on leaks from the pin hole . I figure I'll see if it stops and take it back if it doesn't stop . But it does have some punch to it, but I run max 165 psi . @@TorqueTestChannel
@@TorqueTestChannelyeah, it is supposed to come with the adapter. When I installed the display at my store, it threw me off that it wasn't 1/4" until I saw the adapter lol
What about doubling down on air compressors for the extreme testing? Plumbing in parallel should improve overall flow, and may help keep pressure up in the name of beans
Pretty interesting to see the Thor, size wise against a cordless High torque in the end, I wonder how much they put out on a smaller compressor like a 10 Gallon? I didn't even know a Air Impact could have a progressive trigger like that, cool!
Heck, 10gal can’t keep up with my earthquake (old smooth one). If I don’t get it in the first 3-4 sec it’s time for another 5min waiting session for compressor to fill in.
My 1894 pisses air exactly like your HF version. Missed the return window before it started. Pretty unhappy with the experience overall. Trigger also absolutely sucks. Edit: Thanks TTC and Astro for sorting out my issues!
3:26 I used to work at a factory, that had compressed air for the automation as well as tools. I remember one of the metrics we tracked was air leakage in scfm. If you walked on to the factory floor even with all the machines stopped there'd be a constant hiss from the leakage. I have no idea what the leakage was, but our system was in the thousands of scfm.
I know someone that has a factory that used to be an old production factory. There is an air compressor in there that that has the piping larger than the water lines in that place. The compressor itself is huge. I think it was designed without a storage tank, but it is located in the darkest corner of that place, in an area that you can barley fit. It has a cage around most of it, so its hard to see what is there, so maybe I missed a tank. I'm disappointed I'll probably never get to see it run, but that might be a good thing, I could only imagine how loud and unbearable it would be to be around it running.
I gave away my Thor due to the air leak issue. I went to an IR 2235 max. It allows me to have full power reverse, followed by 1/4 power forward. Its about perfect for tire work.
Hey TTC, really like your channel, I was just walking through harbor freight and saw a 1in air impact for sale. I had never seen one before and thought that it would be cool to see it tested on the channel!!
We havent been able to keep 9psi in the tools while running, see 3/4" portion of video. Seems you need massive tanks and 3/4" hoses to make them chooch to their advertised specs
I bet you can do it with short bursts and the right pluming. Just put a ball valve on your tank and attach the hose to it. The only coupler you can have in the line is at the tool. 170 psi and nothing in the way is how we did it fixing tractors back in the day. I bet the half inch impacts will like it too.@@TorqueTestChannel
I received the thor g2 for valentine's day as a gift from my wife. Needless to say it's already been tested against one of snapons best air impacts and hold right up with it if not out doing it in some respects. Worth mentioning we have 130psi static line pressure in our shop
I got pissed off and got a small screwdriver, hammered out the drift pin in the weep hole and hammered in the screw driver & broke it off. No more air leaks
It would be great to see more air tools and even corded ones, as general, not onlu impacts. Personally I prefer air, then corded for my little workshop, it's small enough that cordless haven't much advantage for me. And man, when I got air brad nailer... it just nailed it. I loved lightweight air tools :D
heavy duty diesel tech here. i’ve been beating my thor for 3 years it leaks out of the pin hole but works flawless and removes 30mm nuts everyday no problem.
Loved the honest information about you being in the design and making of the Thor's. It would be easy for someone to be shading about that. But you said you wouldn't do that when you took the job and kept doing this channel. Please keep it up.
We have an ongoing argument at work over wether using hand force with normal wrenches or impacts can give a more precise torque on a bolt when tightening by "oldtimers". Aka. assemblers having tightened bolts tens of times per day 10+ years. Would be nice to have some ten or so people test this on your dyno. First by hand and then by impact.
I'm curious, have you ever tested different hand positions and the effect on dyno results? The laws of physics say that if you hold the tool more still, the energy that was causing the gun to shake is now going into the work instead. My question is, is that enough energy to make any difference, or is it insignificant? I do know that if it did change the numbers, it would likely affect all tools the same and wouldn't change the ratings, I'm just a physics nerd and am curious.
I've been working as a mechanic for a while, I can tell you, to hold the impact in the way it doesn't shake that bad all the power is directly transmited to the socket and increase the power a lot, you can try by your self, and you will notice that an impact that was not being able to loose a hard bolt if you hold it stronger you can se how it breaks the bolts pretty easy
Yes the tighter you can hold the socket and gun on whatever fasteners you’re removing the better. Especially when you can get the the nut off first then spin the bolt out, or if you 1 out of two fasteners has a solid built in washer you can push as hard as you can and the impacts will go all the thru the bolt
Super cool you got to help improve such a nice tool! Have you ever checked if total torque spikes if you allow the air pressure to recover and do a few more bursts with air tools after the long trigger pull?
Harbor Freight execs must’ve watched this video and made changes. I bought an earthquake xt today (1/16/2024) and it included the fitting necessary to thread in a 1/4” air fitting.
I would like to see a test where you let them go as far as they will even if it’s for 5 min. Sometimes we have that ONE job that requires ungodly force and I would love to see if it makes any difference running the air tool for like 1 min. Would 15sec 500 lb-ft turn into 90sec 1200 lb-ft ? Always wondered about that.
@@NBSV1 Well, so be it but what I love about this channel is that it sort of, pitas the myths to rest” and actually provides some data one can point to next time one goes trough logic brainstorming relying only on “trash me bro” science. If I have a bolt that needs 15sec for a 900 lb-ft tool but I only have a 600 lb-ft tool, can I run it for a while to “cheat” the numbers and if so how much “extra” is there even if it proves to be just 30 sec max. Also mass plays a roll. It’s much easer to tighten smaller/shorter bolt then bigger/longer bolt since the impact doesn’t get absorbed by the bolt itself. I always find it easer to remove nuts than bolts, all else equal, particularly on guns with smaller hammers, IMHO. I’m talking the ones that stand around and rust. But I need to see it tested if I’m gonna act on it. He has shown the impact of expansions and such that blow me away. I also started watching his channel while I was trying to improve my guns performance. I started with 1/4” hose hooked to small compressor with restrictive regulator etc. and wondered why my gun sounds and performed so weak😅 I found out I can improve on it but had million questions. His channel, amongst other research started a swearing a lot. I love the “hard data” that’s all.
I like the 1st design of THOR better: -less parts to fail -Honda crank bolts are no problem -I can say I was there 1st (Because of you guys) -notchy isn't an issue if you press the center of the trigger, or maybe the 20w-50 just smoothed it out on its first run. Also love the Thor air hammer just wow
I end up working underneath cars a lot with the impact anvil parallel to the ground facing straight up. What ended up killing my Thor G1 and forcing me back to the Matco offering was actually dirt/oil/grease/general car grit getting behind and under the trigger, so I hope the G2 addressed that with the trigger redesign.
I know the field is small but I'd like to see more cordless 12 volt tools ..I'm thinking about buying a set ( drill, impact cut off tool mini sawzall) to keep in the house for most household jobs .
Just added the Thor 1896 3/4 drive to my Amazon cart. Just curious to see if there's a protective boot for it that I'm not seeing on Amazon. I don't want it passed around the shop without wearing protection.
Hey Torque! As always an awesome video, thank you so much for all you do! I can’t wait to see what you think of the new 2967! Anyways, a co-manager of mine that works in our light/medium duty diesel shop claimed the pre-existing 3/8” air lines they were using were too restrictive and causing the air air tools to not have enough beans to get some jobs done. To “remedy” this problem they had 3/4” air lines installed. However because they’re lazy/cheap they used adapters to bring the 3/4” lines down to the normal 1/4” NPT fitting to fit all the tools. They claimed there was a significant performance improvement over the original 3/8” airline but I’m extremely skeptical of that claim. What are your thoughts on this scenario? The shop is run on a rotary compressor with about a million CFM output and also has a reciprocating back up compressor in case the air demand is that high or there’s a fault with the rotary screw compressor. The line pressure is regulated to 150psi and uses 1” copper pipe right up to where it connects to the air hose reel. Any thoughts you could share would be greatly appreciated.
I'm not sure they'll really understand you since they are using 1/4 fittings on 3/8 automotive tools and benched it like that. The lack of a 3/8 to 1/4 should have been a bit of a hint but there are pipe velocity formulas and charts out there that explain how this all works. Your co-manager may very well be telling the truth but its going to be hard for anybody to say for sure without knowing everything about the runs from the source all the way down to the tools. Length of runs, how many elbows, splits, even pipe material has different friction that affects velocity. So if the problem before was the 1/4 NPT fittings weren't provided the air they needed to meet their own specs due to the runs themselves... then you would absolutely notice a difference if you replaced everything with 3/4 and kept 1/4 fittings. Removed one bottle neck and moved on to the next one but the total output is overall better.
Of course battery appears stronger. If you have any 1/4" connections anywhere at all on your air line, assuming using at least 3/8" hose, then that is your choke point and you lose power. That is why there is no adapter with this tool. Max rated torque comes from full length 3/8" hose and connections. Or you could use the very bulky 1/2" hose and fittings, but that is better left for your 3/4" or 1" occasional use heavy duty impacts.
I work in a diesel shop with all the air you dream of .That Thor G2 in 3/4 is gonna be my birthday present thing month. Thanks for solving that one for me.
I just noticed in the manual for the 1895 it describes the 3 power settings as High, High, and Thor, God of Thunder Now it only seems appropriate to say "bring the thunder!" before pulling the trigger, Im sure that's good for at least 10% more working torque
My Thor started leaking badly from the roll pin, and the way I fixed it was disconnecting the air hose, slapping it with my palm, and very purposefully reconnecting the air hose. It’s still kinda hit or miss but more often than not it doesn’t leak
I love that new Thor G2! What a great air tool with important updates over the first gen (variable trigger is key)...I see that Horror Freight quality and attention to detail is still what we have all come to expect over they years...I can't wait to see the new Milwaukee High Torque 2967 step into the ring. I think we're all going to be shocked with what that thing can deliver in a 1/2" format.
I have the massive 3/4 earthquake Pneumatic Impact its got power I feed it with a 3/4 and fittings its hungry 14:23 I switched it to 1/2 and got a bit more power
air impacts you can keep pounding a bolt tightening even when the bolt is fully stretched. electric impacts that i have used just vibrate like crazy and make a terrible noise trying to pound an already tightened bolt tighter. my use is tightening is more important.
My two biggest complaints about the Thor Gen 1 after 8 months of use(Removal of 800+ Motors and Transmission at a salvage yard), the first being like you said, the trigger. Its god awful. Second, and due to the shear about of use(and abuse) I have put it through, the forward and reverse switch now requires another tool(a hammer) to cycle. That being said, I love this gun, but after seeing this review, I'm definitely buying a Gen 2.
Fun fact I bought one today and it does include the 1/4 adapter also harbor freight does sell an adapter in a set for like $6 item number 63580 which I know because I bought one thinking the adapter wouldn't be in the box lol. I guess I'll edit the post if I get that air leak issue
Hi TTC. I have been contemplating what 7/16 quick release impact to purchase. DEWALT makes the DCF898B. Milwaukee makes the 2869-20. Klein makes the BAT20-7161. Makita makes the XWT09Z. I’m not sure what other companies carry this type of impact. A quick release chuck added to a specific gun is out of question due to the specific use of this tool. It is hard to find anyone doing comparison tests and figured I’d ask you guys since this is what you do! It would be cool to see this in an upcoming video. Thanks guys
I think milwaukee's is 2865. If you're after power, get that of those options. The Klein is a DeWALT. These would require a 7/16" hex to square adapter to test here, which would lose power. And we can eliminate that by just testing the square drive high torques these are based off of which we have :D
id like to see dremels and die grinders tested. i use them at work and leverage it pretty hard to polish stainless. would be interesting to know which ones bog down sooner.
I just picked up a thor g2 because I liked the v1 thor so much. I have used IR guns for years and have 2 2235 ti max guns I have come to like and use the v1 thor much more than the IR guns I have
Can we have all the Earthquakes generations tested at ones or at least show us a graph that has them all there. I’m really getting confused by all of them. I have the older “ smooth” looking one that first made all the people notice them but no idea if it’s worth upgrading all just go electric.
@@TorqueTestChannel So the older one you just compared against the “ultra” version, has the same guts as every single one that came BEFORE it? DAMN! I could have sworn that you had few test that showed some incremental differences. Like when they switched from the older “smooth” shell to the “transformer looking one” (unnecessarily busy looking for the sake of it), I could have sworn you had the “newer” one up higher. Maybe you should still do an episode where you show the “progression” of some of the brand names competing against themself. Maybe include all the different categories of the same brand into one graph. After all, as the numbers go up trough the years, a tool in a high torque class could have been bested by a new one from mid class. I know we have chart but I LOVE the visualization and gives me more complete picture ( like how car performance can never be communicated with just 2 number on a sheet. You can then even put that graph up after each test when a tool outperforms it’s category a bit to better visualize it against the rest of the brand. Something along the line. I’m sure you would come up with way better way than me. Also I don’t mind if you put it behind a “paywall” somehow or do episodes based on it every so often that would add to your TH-cam profitability. Like just episodes with no new tools but compering visual data of XYZ brand . Not looking for freebies, just want that data visualized. If not I understand and still am grateful for your channel. It LITERALLY is making tool brands more honest with their numbers. They all knew you by your name and probably have a “but will it pass the TQ channel” on their wall. 😁
The dropping test needs to be introduced. The highest height should be 30 to 50 ft high. The problem with using pressure air is theres more to worry about.
I don't know if it possible at your shop but we had real trouble run a 1" impact to loosen semi lug nut at are shop and we only have a 80 gallon tank as well like you guys. The way we fixed that instead of buying a massively expensive rotary screw air compressor is we bought a second air tank with 120 gallons of capacity right next to the 80 gallon and plumped them together. The air compressor just runs longer but we have theoretically 200 gallons of air pressure at any givin time. Is that something you guys could do to improve the volume in your shop???
Come on production DCF961 take it back! I thought this was the new Milwaukee you were reviewing, it’s only fair if the tool you had a hand in making gets the number one spot lol.
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*Edit:* We're hearing at least a few people who have bought the new Earthquake DID get a 1/4" NPT adapter in their box. So that could be one less thing to worry about.
The creator of this channel is working in product development for Astro tools which includes impacts wrenches just like these! Always consider multiple sources when considering a tool.
how close are we to theoretical material limits of a 3/8 or 1/2 drive square drive?
@@kazzxtrismus We're already at 3/8" The M18 mid torque in 3/8" is right up against the limit, air tools now are closing in on 3/8" as well. DCF961 is the limit of 1/2", we've tested with a nitrous fed gas powered Milwaukee even higher: th-cam.com/video/JKXuFwB6lo0/w-d-xo.html but the real limit shows itself in the shaking, vibration and utter rejection of the tool not wanting to live life in 1/2". There's a significant amount of torque being left on the table of those top examples by not being 3/4" drive, wasted as heat, vibration, and just imbalance of hammering.
It's why Makita skipped to 3/4 for the XGT high torque.
Yeah like the new gen 3 milwaukee with the new battery. Why don't you have it yet lol
Hey, is your contact info still the same? I sent a follow-up question about Wurkkos.
Hi TTC. Fun idea: there are a ton of cute little cordless screwdrivers (like actually screwdrivers) out there. Would be great to see some testing.
I feel like an inline battery screwdriver with any real torque would just twist out of your hand, but I've never seen one with much torque to worry about. I doubt the dyno's we have could measure them in a precise enough fashion to crown one as the best.
Edit: Good idea on the nylock nut gauntlet though, these are more about speed than peak torque
@@TorqueTestChannel that's fair, but RPM and battery life would be good to see on their own, especially given the difference between RPM free vs under load and lack of consistency between brands on measuring methods
@@TorqueTestChannel just as an idea also, I could see running a screw through a nylock nut with varying screw diameters could be a potential method of testing low torque numbers?
@@TorqueTestChannel DCF601 would be worth a test though!
@@KavurcenGood point
Testing the 1896 and shedding light on why you dont typically test air 3/4 impacts was much appreciated. I am a diesel mechanic and we have what is i believe a 150 gal compressor, with 3/4 hoses with 1/2 fittings and 3/8 hoses with 1/4 fittings. Our max pressure is around 160psi and i have a Cornwell CAT3225 and she has handled everything i threw at her without breaking a sweat
I'm just now upgrading my home shop to those specs (but with multiple compressors for electrical reasons, running two three phase compressors off a rotary phase converter slashes starting loads) and should have done that many years ago!
I've been wonder the same, our shop has a similar air set at 170psi, and mt service truck would sit at 160psi. I have the Cornwell 3/4 as well. It's damn near unstoppable, when it fails there's usually a blue wrench involved after
@@Comm0ut couldn't you have used a vfd for starting load issues?
@@TheCntryson47 only time it couldn't do something was taking off a left rear shock top bolt on a trailer, but that's because I have to reduce down to a 1/2 drive universal then to the 1-1/8 socket to clear the leveling valve, once I took the wheels off and went from the other side, came right off
Did the do the HF 1” Pin-less Tire Gun yet? I need this in my life!
When buying new air hoses it's wise to go large, and you can run both by using different chucks on the pipe fittings of your choice. I just finished plumbing my main shop using 3/4" ID red industrial air hose and Chicago couplings. (If I score an engine-driven compressor of size I'll simply add larger hose where that matters and have more CFM throughout.) I configure my shops like a job site or military deployment where everything can be easily rearranged to suit added equipment or efficiency and convenience improvements. Stepping down from large hose is easy plumbing. Explore available fittings and it will be obvious how to get what you want.
Industrial air hose is rugged, doesn't corrode, I can quickly add compressors (it's much easier to add lower HP compressors by pneumatic connection than spend far more money wiring say a 10HP or larger single compressor). My flexible wiring is high quality SOOW cable with proper connectors (worth it over hard wiring for easy maintenance and reconfig). All my compressors are mobile for easy maintenance and cleaning. I use large round shank scaffolding casters slid into pipe sections welded to the simple chassis I fabbed for my two 5 HP ("industrial" 5HP not bullshit consumer trash wishful thinking 5HP, consumer compressor mfrs are con artists like air and electric tool sellers!). I got tired of baby compressors because I got tired of outsourcing sand blasting.
A cheap but VERY important addition to my shop air is a large industrial receiver tank. Most hobbyists don't know they exist let alone the glorious surge capacity they offer. I use a USB borescope to inspect all my tanks (they're cheap online and fun to use) because explosions are bad. You can locate your compressor someplace quiet or otherwise convenient then place the receiver tank close to point of use.
Do you mean the cost of a single cable for a 10HP compressor is more than two smaller cables for two 5HP compressors? What connectors do you use?
It was very interesting to see the improvements on the new version Thor explained point by point. You should do more "look inside stuff" videos!
I just bought a dcb891 after watching your tests and could not be more pleased. Thank you for providing this service. Like project farm, you are weeding out the chaff and providing us with invaluable information.
Great job helping Astro rise to the top!...I have no interest in air tools,but I am still glad they are included..
The 2967 might be the new king of 1/2 cordless impacts
I'd use a Milton high-flow 3/8" coupler with that, in combination with 1/2" hose. It makes a huge difference.
Milton high flow couplers/plugs don’t last with impacts. We changed our whole shop over to them but they literally just erode away with impacts because they are made out of extremely soft metal
@@LordOfSilense Are you not using the stainless plugs? The Aluminum ones are damage prone, I use them on some paint guns but for simplicity all my auto tools are stainless Milton V plugs. Some of the generic non milton v plugs leak in the milton v couplers, and can chew up the o rings.
We used milton high flow 3/8" with 1/2" hose on the 3/4" impact, on the 1/2" impact it makes almost half that difference in torque from air delivery change
I would say I really want to see the dcf897's 3/4 anvil put into a dcf900 chassis and see how well it works.
Been salivating for days just waiting on this episode! Yelling “TTC! TTC! TTC!” The whole time! 😅
My old Mac/IR gun is dying a slow death. 10 years. Old tried rebuilding it poor man style. Figured id do some research as im a mechanic in the rusty canada. Found this channel and picked up the Thor g2 1/2. Running 3/8 line a fitting. Its the best gun ive used so far. A bit big. But everything comes off like its loose lol. And im still learning the ugga duggas for tight.
Love this channel!
I recently picked up a DCF-900 on sale for $200. At that price and the performance I couldn't NOT buy it. It has been all that I hoped and more.
shops that work on passenger vehicles use 1/4 fittings, shops that work on Heavy Duty/Industrial equipment use the 3/8. AWESOME CHANNEL, I appreciate what you are doing.
Not quite accurate. Too much power loss. My tire shop, part of a national chain, has always used 3/8".
We own & operate 6 Tire & auto repair businesses & have never needed more that 1/4 on passenger vehicles but honestly out of 14 mechanics I probably only have 2 that use air guns today as they have all went battery power. Our shop that works on 3/4 ton trucks & up was plumbed for 3/8 when we built it.@@keepingdistance4404
So cool that you help to develope the Asteo Pneumatic Tools and Always love seeing Eric O beat rhe snot out of them 8:00 and Love that new Infinite variable trigger on the new Thor
The fact that battery operated tools are getting as powerful as air tools is the last nail in the coffer of DIY’s using air.
No big compressor
No airlines to manage
All the benefits and none of the cons, other then life of the battery. But compressor is way more expansive to manage then batteries.
My old man got rid of almost all of his air tools and has been using electric for about the last 10 years of his career at a Case IH dealership. He got tired of fighting the spaghetti monster every time he needed an air tool and having to bring a portable compressor with him when he had to fix something in the field.
A few years ago him and one of the other guys in his shop decided to have a competition on which tools were better using a frame bolt on a Quadtrac. The other guy cranked up the air on his new SnapOn impact and tightened the bolt, and dad took it off with his M18 Impact without any trouble. Then he tightened the bolt back down with his M18 and the other guy sat there for 5 mins trying to get it off with his SnapOn impact before admitting defeat. He ended up selling the SnapOn and bought the M18. Now the entire shop has converted to the M18 and the owner even bought a 2868 to replace their aging 1" air impact when he built the new shop.
i will stubbornly stick to air, at least until i find a electric impact with a big slow hammer (i can't stand the way cordless impacts sound). The only cordless impact i've seen that i didn't mind was a milwaukee 3\4 d handle. Slower impact speed with bigger hits. It also weighed a metric shitton though.
When u use extension and swivels sockets on an electric impact the air one wins everytime. Idk what it is about electrics but they have no balls when it comes to extensions and swivel sockets
@@ronsimmaculatedetailing6335 I believe it is the slack and inherent “flex” of longer shafts and linkages.
Think of it like a spring on top of a nail’s head. If you use small hand hummer and you drop it on top, the spring will absorb the energy and the nail will go in just a bit.
Do that with bigger hummer and it will compress the spring and still have energy left to hammer the nail in more.
Lighter hammers try compensating by having higher speed in order to hit the “spring” the second time before it unwinds completely and get a better energy transfer. This is why some bolts like Honda crank need special weighted socket otherwise the nature of the bolt will have you go in circle as in, by the time second hummer hits the bolt sprang back to starting position because there is not enough mass counteracting the spring back of the assembly. But it has to be not to heavy or else you bog down your gun, making it not being able to deliver the power in the first place.
He has videos on it as well as his own take. Highly recommended.
I can’t wait for the new Milwaukee testing 😅 shop tool reviews took the testing over 2,000 ft lbs of torque on a nut. We don’t even need that but sheesh. Can’t wait for the dyno
The 3/4 and the 1/2 xgt makita has been my favorite since they came out for big customer Repairs and jobs
Someone else mentioned electric screwdrivers. I second that, but I’d also like to see how much torque you get from the clutches on cordless drill drivers. I assume there’s a good reason that they are all in arbitrary units instead of torque ranges. But I’d like to know if I could get an estimated torque. Or simply understand how unreliable they are. :)
Worked at a company that manufactured off shore oil platform and natural gas pipeline equipment, and we ran two air hoses to large impacts. For higher torques, we had a hydraulic ram that ran a ratchet. Don't know how much torque that made, we just used the hydraulic pressure value that the engineers gave us. No way a human could hold that kind of torque, had to rest it against an adjacent bolt.
The Makita is a $300 bare tool including shipping if bought from amazon japan. All in, no tax. I just bought the 891 mid torque, thinking that 3/4 inch is the way to go on a modern high torque. Waiting to see if the 961 is going to be 3/4 as I have the batteries and charger already. Really like that xgt though. Would like to see a heat comparison of the batteries and tool 961, 2967, xgt. The comparison of the xgt batterys suggests that maybe we have reached the point where a step up in voltage makes sense.
Just got the 3/4 Thor two days ago. I work on transit buses 🚌
Never had a Harbor Freight tool that didn’t work great out of the box, problem is they don’t last. Wouldn’t even consider a daily user tool from Harbor Freight
Does that include the Hercules tools? Wast thinking about getting the forced rotation dual-action polisher made by Hercules.
Harbor Freight is the perfect stop for tools I consider in the "one and done" category. If I'm only going to need the tool once or on rare occasions I'll consider them (if I can't borrow or rent). When I was a working technician though I would rarely touch the stuff- the tolerances, materials strength and durability wasn't good enough for me. I think I've broken every HF tool I've acquired over the years. Even a Dremel knockoff died on me after a day of use.
Well, here it's just the Astro.
@@notsevenfeettall Here's a hint. It's less than 7 years in.
@@afellowinnewengland6142 Learn how to use them. 🤣
Every brand name tool I ever used was done before getting it home. So they all suck if they cost more than $1. 🤣
What an Idiot. Just because you say some BS doesn’t make it true. I fully expect you to from now on buy only $ store tools. Ok, cause I just told you everything else sucks and I must be expert cause I posted this comment on TH-cam , the mother of all “trust me bro” cult knowledge 🤣
In the meantime the Chinese making the $10 dollar “brand name tool” that you will spend $300 on are laughing 😂
I bought the ultra torque 2 weeks ago before the store even had them on display. It came with the adapter for 3/8 to 1/4 on mine. Not sure why yours didn’t come with an adapter. Impact has been an absolute monster so far
Dang, that's weird! Thier parts breakdown and specs don't even list it either. Interested to see if others got one with thiers
Mine came with the adapter.
Got mine yesterday and it came with the adaptor also . Mine also off and on leaks from the pin hole . I figure I'll see if it stops and take it back if it doesn't stop . But it does have some punch to it, but I run max 165 psi . @@TorqueTestChannel
@@TorqueTestChannelyeah, it is supposed to come with the adapter. When I installed the display at my store, it threw me off that it wasn't 1/4" until I saw the adapter lol
@user-kh2yl6nn3l is there a way to fix the leak?
What about doubling down on air compressors for the extreme testing? Plumbing in parallel should improve overall flow, and may help keep pressure up in the name of beans
I converted my shops over to 3/8" couplers with 1/2" hoses years ago and never looked back. Every air tool performs better, especially the impacts.
It's all about the flow.
Pretty interesting to see the Thor, size wise against a cordless High torque in the end, I wonder how much they put out on a smaller compressor like a 10 Gallon? I didn't even know a Air Impact could have a progressive trigger like that, cool!
A 10 gallon would not be able to keep up with the air demand.
Heck, 10gal can’t keep up with my earthquake (old smooth one). If I don’t get it in the first 3-4 sec it’s time for another 5min waiting session for compressor to fill in.
My 1894 pisses air exactly like your HF version. Missed the return window before it started. Pretty unhappy with the experience overall.
Trigger also absolutely sucks.
Edit: Thanks TTC and Astro for sorting out my issues!
Can probably switch yours out, hit me up torquetestchannel@gmail.com
That new Milwaukee I think will be everything that thing is insane I seen a video of it splitting a 32 mm socket
3:26 I used to work at a factory, that had compressed air for the automation as well as tools. I remember one of the metrics we tracked was air leakage in scfm. If you walked on to the factory floor even with all the machines stopped there'd be a constant hiss from the leakage.
I have no idea what the leakage was, but our system was in the thousands of scfm.
We used 3/8 fittings on 1/2 line for everything. Including air blasters for cleaning the floor. Was a lot of air.
I know someone that has a factory that used to be an old production factory. There is an air compressor in there that that has the piping larger than the water lines in that place. The compressor itself is huge. I think it was designed without a storage tank, but it is located in the darkest corner of that place, in an area that you can barley fit. It has a cage around most of it, so its hard to see what is there, so maybe I missed a tank. I'm disappointed I'll probably never get to see it run, but that might be a good thing, I could only imagine how loud and unbearable it would be to be around it running.
I gave away my Thor due to the air leak issue. I went to an IR 2235 max. It allows me to have full power reverse, followed by 1/4 power forward. Its about perfect for tire work.
Hey TTC can you dyno older tools like nicad brushed tools to show how far we have came.
Yes.
can you still get decent nicad packs to run those tools with? I know adapters exist to run them off lithium, but that sort of feels like cheating.
Probably won't be cheating if you match the amp hrs
4:40 thank you I thought I was nuts I was standing there thinking I was going insane 😂
I hope one day we can get some proper 3/4 air impact testing! Unless someone happens to know of another data driven channel testing them.
I'm a big fan of cordless myself! But I am also considering investment in heavier duty air tools. I'm okay with being an outlier in that regard.
Hey TTC, really like your channel, I was just walking through harbor freight and saw a 1in air impact for sale. I had never seen one before and thought that it would be cool to see it tested on the channel!!
We havent been able to keep 9psi in the tools while running, see 3/4" portion of video. Seems you need massive tanks and 3/4" hoses to make them chooch to their advertised specs
I bet you can do it with short bursts and the right pluming. Just put a ball valve on your tank and attach the hose to it. The only coupler you can have in the line is at the tool. 170 psi and nothing in the way is how we did it fixing tractors back in the day. I bet the half inch impacts will like it too.@@TorqueTestChannel
I received the thor g2 for valentine's day as a gift from my wife. Needless to say it's already been tested against one of snapons best air impacts and hold right up with it if not out doing it in some respects. Worth mentioning we have 130psi static line pressure in our shop
I got pissed off and got a small screwdriver, hammered out the drift pin in the weep hole and hammered in the screw driver & broke it off. No more air leaks
It would be great to see more air tools and even corded ones, as general, not onlu impacts. Personally I prefer air, then corded for my little workshop, it's small enough that cordless haven't much advantage for me. And man, when I got air brad nailer... it just nailed it. I loved lightweight air tools :D
heavy duty diesel tech here. i’ve been beating my thor for 3 years it leaks out of the pin hole but works flawless and removes 30mm nuts everyday no problem.
Some super glue stops the pin hole pissing
Loved the honest information about you being in the design and making of the Thor's. It would be easy for someone to be shading about that. But you said you wouldn't do that when you took the job and kept doing this channel. Please keep it up.
We have an ongoing argument at work over wether using hand force with normal wrenches or impacts can give a more precise torque on a bolt when tightening by "oldtimers". Aka. assemblers having tightened bolts tens of times per day 10+ years. Would be nice to have some ten or so people test this on your dyno. First by hand and then by impact.
It's funny you mentioned the trigger. I've only tried the original earthquake, but didn't like that it was like an on/off switch.
I'm curious, have you ever tested different hand positions and the effect on dyno results? The laws of physics say that if you hold the tool more still, the energy that was causing the gun to shake is now going into the work instead. My question is, is that enough energy to make any difference, or is it insignificant? I do know that if it did change the numbers, it would likely affect all tools the same and wouldn't change the ratings, I'm just a physics nerd and am curious.
I've been working as a mechanic for a while, I can tell you, to hold the impact in the way it doesn't shake that bad all the power is directly transmited to the socket and increase the power a lot, you can try by your self, and you will notice that an impact that was not being able to loose a hard bolt if you hold it stronger you can se how it breaks the bolts pretty easy
Yes the tighter you can hold the socket and gun on whatever fasteners you’re removing the better. Especially when you can get the the nut off first then spin the bolt out, or if you 1 out of two fasteners has a solid built in washer you can push as hard as you can and the impacts will go all the thru the bolt
When reading the title, my mind was thinking 2967… Hope to see it soon on TTC!
Whenever we can buy one we'll make it happen!
Super cool you got to help improve such a nice tool! Have you ever checked if total torque spikes if you allow the air pressure to recover and do a few more bursts with air tools after the long trigger pull?
We can look into it
Harbor Freight execs must’ve watched this video and made changes. I bought an earthquake xt today (1/16/2024) and it included the fitting necessary to thread in a 1/4” air fitting.
I would like to see a test where you let them go as far as they will even if it’s for 5 min.
Sometimes we have that ONE job that requires ungodly force and I would love to see if it makes any difference running the air tool for like 1 min.
Would 15sec 500 lb-ft turn into 90sec 1200 lb-ft ?
Always wondered about that.
I'd rather use that time by reaching for the 8 foot breaker bar.
After about 30 seconds it’s gonna be maxed out. Especially since usually at that point the air compressor isn’t going to keep up.
@@NBSV1 Well, so be it but what I love about this channel is that it sort of, pitas the myths to rest” and actually provides some data one can point to next time one goes trough logic brainstorming relying only on “trash me bro” science.
If I have a bolt that needs 15sec for a 900 lb-ft tool but I only have a 600 lb-ft tool, can I run it for a while to “cheat” the numbers and if so how much “extra” is there even if it proves to be just 30 sec max.
Also mass plays a roll. It’s much easer to tighten smaller/shorter bolt then bigger/longer bolt since the impact doesn’t get absorbed by the bolt itself. I always find it easer to remove nuts than bolts, all else equal, particularly on guns with smaller hammers, IMHO. I’m talking the ones that stand around and rust.
But I need to see it tested if I’m gonna act on it.
He has shown the impact of expansions and such that blow me away. I also started watching his channel while I was trying to improve my guns performance. I started with 1/4” hose hooked to small compressor with restrictive regulator etc. and wondered why my gun sounds and performed so weak😅
I found out I can improve on it but had million questions. His channel, amongst other research started a swearing a lot.
I love the “hard data” that’s all.
@@DEDKEDS or a torch and Big Nasty.
@@DEDKEDS That’s not the point since we are trying to learn more about the nature of the air tools, but I agree.
I like the 1st design of THOR better:
-less parts to fail
-Honda crank bolts are no problem
-I can say I was there 1st
(Because of you guys)
-notchy isn't an issue if you press the center of the trigger, or maybe the 20w-50 just smoothed it out on its first run. Also love the Thor air hammer just wow
I end up working underneath cars a lot with the impact anvil parallel to the ground facing straight up. What ended up killing my Thor G1 and forcing me back to the Matco offering was actually dirt/oil/grease/general car grit getting behind and under the trigger, so I hope the G2 addressed that with the trigger redesign.
Yeah. A new fwd rev valve that doesn't mind dirt and grime now
Looks like you are making an impact in the market. Very impressive.
I know the field is small but I'd like to see more cordless 12 volt tools ..I'm thinking about buying a set ( drill, impact cut off tool mini sawzall) to keep in the house for most household jobs .
Just added the Thor 1896 3/4 drive to my Amazon cart. Just curious to see if there's a protective boot for it that I'm not seeing on Amazon. I don't want it passed around the shop without wearing protection.
Yessir, this fits all 3 models: amzn.to/3P4dxVE
@@TorqueTestChannel perfect thanks!
Perfect! Thanks!..... Perfect, thanks!
English 🤷🏻♂️
I never thought I would see the day when battery operated tools are more powerful than air tools. 😱
17:55 that size difference though. When roughly equal size mid torque cordless be making 8-900 then it's game over
Hey Torque! As always an awesome video, thank you so much for all you do! I can’t wait to see what you think of the new 2967! Anyways, a co-manager of mine that works in our light/medium duty diesel shop claimed the pre-existing 3/8” air lines they were using were too restrictive and causing the air air tools to not have enough beans to get some jobs done. To “remedy” this problem they had 3/4” air lines installed. However because they’re lazy/cheap they used adapters to bring the 3/4” lines down to the normal 1/4” NPT fitting to fit all the tools. They claimed there was a significant performance improvement over the original 3/8” airline but I’m extremely skeptical of that claim. What are your thoughts on this scenario? The shop is run on a rotary compressor with about a million CFM output and also has a reciprocating back up compressor in case the air demand is that high or there’s a fault with the rotary screw compressor. The line pressure is regulated to 150psi and uses 1” copper pipe right up to where it connects to the air hose reel. Any thoughts you could share would be greatly appreciated.
I'm not sure they'll really understand you since they are using 1/4 fittings on 3/8 automotive tools and benched it like that. The lack of a 3/8 to 1/4 should have been a bit of a hint but there are pipe velocity formulas and charts out there that explain how this all works. Your co-manager may very well be telling the truth but its going to be hard for anybody to say for sure without knowing everything about the runs from the source all the way down to the tools. Length of runs, how many elbows, splits, even pipe material has different friction that affects velocity. So if the problem before was the 1/4 NPT fittings weren't provided the air they needed to meet their own specs due to the runs themselves... then you would absolutely notice a difference if you replaced everything with 3/4 and kept 1/4 fittings. Removed one bottle neck and moved on to the next one but the total output is overall better.
Of course battery appears stronger. If you have any 1/4" connections anywhere at all on your air line, assuming using at least 3/8" hose, then that is your choke point and you lose power. That is why there is no adapter with this tool. Max rated torque comes from full length 3/8" hose and connections. Or you could use the very bulky 1/2" hose and fittings, but that is better left for your 3/4" or 1" occasional use heavy duty impacts.
I work in a diesel shop with all the air you dream of .That Thor G2 in 3/4 is gonna be my birthday present thing month. Thanks for solving that one for me.
Man if we had unlimited air volume would probably be buying a big boy 3/4" or pistol 1"!
@TorqueTestChannel I'm in the rust belt it's gonna get used and abused most likely.
I'm suprised the earthquake line of tools is still around
I just noticed in the manual for the 1895 it describes the 3 power settings as High, High, and Thor, God of Thunder
Now it only seems appropriate to say "bring the thunder!" before pulling the trigger, Im sure that's good for at least 10% more working torque
I've been impatiently waiting for this video and I'm definitely not disappointed. Now I just need to justify another Thor in my box.
Oh nice a 1896 3/4 Thor G2 awesome 14:15
Damnit I just bought one like 2 months ago! I absolutely love this impact! Also bought the 3/8 stubby short handle at the same time! Smdh
Wow looks a ton like Astro Pneumatic 1890 Thor
I’ve been using the first 1894 for the past year. It’s been great. More break away than my buddy’s snap on impact 😂😂
Oh wait I thought this was going to be the Milwaukee review 😂
When we see one for sale we'll buy one!
i thought the same
Well shit, my gen 1 Thor just arrived yesterday. I guess that explains the sale.
Hands down best review channel on youtube!!
My Thor started leaking badly from the roll pin, and the way I fixed it was disconnecting the air hose, slapping it with my palm, and very purposefully reconnecting the air hose. It’s still kinda hit or miss but more often than not it doesn’t leak
I love that new Thor G2! What a great air tool with important updates over the first gen (variable trigger is key)...I see that Horror Freight quality and attention to detail is still what we have all come to expect over they years...I can't wait to see the new Milwaukee High Torque 2967 step into the ring. I think we're all going to be shocked with what that thing can deliver in a 1/2" format.
I wasnt expecting to be buying a new air impact hammer, but here I am! Now I gotta somhow ship a new Thor G2 to Australia lol.
Super excited to see the circ saw bracket winner
I have the massive 3/4 earthquake Pneumatic Impact its got power I feed it with a 3/4 and fittings its hungry 14:23 I switched it to 1/2 and got a bit more power
350k videos in 2 hours, love it !
air impacts you can keep pounding a bolt tightening even when the bolt is fully stretched. electric impacts that i have used just vibrate like crazy and make a terrible noise trying to pound an already tightened bolt tighter. my use is tightening is more important.
I'm glad astro made a 3/4 impact in the 1894 body because the 1894 1/2 impact I have breaks anvils all the time in our diesel shop
My two biggest complaints about the Thor Gen 1 after 8 months of use(Removal of 800+ Motors and Transmission at a salvage yard), the first being like you said, the trigger. Its god awful. Second, and due to the shear about of use(and abuse) I have put it through, the forward and reverse switch now requires another tool(a hammer) to cycle. That being said, I love this gun, but after seeing this review, I'm definitely buying a Gen 2.
The fwd rev thing is solved with thier new valve they put on 1894 and 1895s now. I think we have a few Torquetestchannel@gmail.com
Can’t wait for you to test the new Milwaukee 1/2 impact
DCF 900 is my best friend. Never lets me down.
Air will always be long term, longevity consistent then battery.
Great show as always! ❤
We has a 300 gallon with 1/2" lines, 3/8 plugs, 130 to 150 at the lines and i have a mac 3/4" impact. its nice for beating lugnuts off.
Let's see those rotary tool tests!!!
Fun fact I bought one today and it does include the 1/4 adapter also harbor freight does sell an adapter in a set for like $6 item number 63580 which I know because I bought one thinking the adapter wouldn't be in the box lol. I guess I'll edit the post if I get that air leak issue
I have the G2 thor and it's a beast.. Everyone at works wants to borrow it 😂.
Love this channel 👍🏼 thank you.
Love to see you send tools to south main auto repair been watching him for years!
Hi TTC. I have been contemplating what 7/16 quick release impact to purchase. DEWALT makes the DCF898B. Milwaukee makes the 2869-20. Klein makes the BAT20-7161. Makita makes the XWT09Z. I’m not sure what other companies carry this type of impact. A quick release chuck added to a specific gun is out of question due to the specific use of this tool. It is hard to find anyone doing comparison tests and figured I’d ask you guys since this is what you do! It would be cool to see this in an upcoming video. Thanks guys
I think milwaukee's is 2865. If you're after power, get that of those options. The Klein is a DeWALT. These would require a 7/16" hex to square adapter to test here, which would lose power. And we can eliminate that by just testing the square drive high torques these are based off of which we have :D
@@TorqueTestChannel yes Milwaukee is the 2865. I understand what you are saying. I just didn’t know exactly what models these ones match up to?
I've seen this comment a lot but I really want to see the dcf897's 3/4 anvil put into a dcf900/ the Monster prototype you guys have
id like to see dremels and die grinders tested. i use them at work and leverage it pretty hard to polish stainless. would be interesting to know which ones bog down sooner.
We have tested a fair amount of die grinders on our horsepower dyno series
@@TorqueTestChannel oh nice ill check it out!
came here to watch a video and now i’m buying the new gen 2 thor
Hahaha, shoot us an email we'll send you a high flow swivel as consolation
I just picked up a thor g2 because I liked the v1 thor so much. I have used IR guns for years and have 2 2235 ti max guns I have come to like and use the v1 thor much more than the IR guns I have
don't know why i'm watching this except its friday and eric o been working on that rusty chevvy but hey from the uk. :)
They do sell the 3/8 fitting that works at my local store, but it’s not advertised on their website.
Can we have all the Earthquakes generations tested at ones or at least show us a graph that has them all there. I’m really getting confused by all of them. I have the older “ smooth” looking one that first made all the people notice them but no idea if it’s worth upgrading all just go electric.
It's the same tool. Different shell. Same data as shown here
@@TorqueTestChannel So the older one you just compared against the “ultra” version, has the same guts as every single one that came BEFORE it? DAMN!
I could have sworn that you had few test that showed some incremental differences.
Like when they switched from the older “smooth” shell to the “transformer looking one” (unnecessarily busy looking for the sake of it), I could have sworn you had the “newer” one up higher.
Maybe you should still do an episode where you show the “progression” of some of the brand names competing against themself.
Maybe include all the different categories of the same brand into one graph. After all, as the numbers go up trough the years, a tool in a high torque class could have been bested by a new one from mid class.
I know we have chart but I LOVE the visualization and gives me more complete picture ( like how car performance can never be communicated with just 2 number on a sheet.
You can then even put that graph up after each test when a tool outperforms it’s category a bit to better visualize it against the rest of the brand. Something along the line. I’m sure you would come up with way better way than me.
Also I don’t mind if you put it behind a “paywall” somehow or do episodes based on it every so often that would add to your TH-cam profitability. Like just episodes with no new tools but compering visual data of XYZ brand . Not looking for freebies, just want that data visualized.
If not I understand and still am grateful for your channel. It LITERALLY is making tool brands more honest with their numbers. They all knew you by your name and probably have a “but will it pass the TQ channel” on their wall. 😁
The dropping test needs to be introduced. The highest height should be 30 to 50 ft high. The problem with using pressure air is theres more to worry about.
HFT sells adapter bits for 3/8” to 1/4” in a three piece set under the Merlin brand. Sadly, they don’t sell anything to adapt to 1/2”.
I love my makita Xgt finally had a honda crank bolt to give it a challenge. It wasn't about 2 seconds.
I think they take the Nm of torque number and put it in front of the lb ft because bigger number
Awesome job on the Thor G2! How cool is that...
I don't know if it possible at your shop but we had real trouble run a 1" impact to loosen semi lug nut at are shop and we only have a 80 gallon tank as well like you guys. The way we fixed that instead of buying a massively expensive rotary screw air compressor is we bought a second air tank with 120 gallons of capacity right next to the 80 gallon and plumped them together. The air compressor just runs longer but we have theoretically 200 gallons of air pressure at any givin time. Is that something you guys could do to improve the volume in your shop???
Come on production DCF961 take it back!
I thought this was the new Milwaukee you were reviewing, it’s only fair if the tool you had a hand in making gets the number one spot lol.