New Balance Supercomp Pacer | FULL REVIEW | 5K Flyer... But Do We Need It?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Thomas and Brandon review the New Balance FuelCell Supercomp Pacer, a fast 5K/10K shoe with a carbon fiber plate, FuelCell midsole, and lightweight, airy mesh upper. It's definitely fast, but in the age of super shoes, how necessary is it? We're kind of not sure. Available June 2022 for $150.
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Upper (1:05)
Midsole (2:35)
Price (5:45)
Weight (6:15)
Red or Green Light (7:20)
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Yep. This is going to do it for me. And i refuse to believe it’s only a 5k shoe. I used to do 15-20 miles in shoes with less stack than this in the olden days…and we liked it that way! 😂
I wouldn't necessarily categorize myself as the super efficient, quick turnover, fast runner...but this shoe still appeals to me. I had previously been wearing the Brooks Launch for speed work days and really liked it, and I just ran a half marathon in the Rebel v2. This seems like a combo of those two with a carbon plate, and for $150 (vs $200+), it is tempting to try it as my first shoe with the carbon plate.
Impatiently waiting on the 2E.
I own this shoe and I love it. I have very flat feet (grew up playing ice hockey) and these are amazing!
I was looking forward to this shoe but takumi sen 8 already doing great job at 5K pace. I don't think I'll be needing this in my rotation any time soon.
Just waiting for that SC trainer review. I know Megan is pumped for that stack Height. 🥞
I’m glad these shoes exist for runners who prefer lower stacks. The more options, the better. But, like Thomas, I’m gonna use my Alphafly or Adios Pro whatever the distance. Not messing with this.
NO... ITS DEFINITELY THE SHOE FOR ME.. i been waiting so long for this since the Hanzo S and Zante Pursuit 😭😭 thanks a lot New Balance.. finally i can get a partner for my Liberate Nitro.. the Duo will be a perfect match for track and mainly on road.. i just love lower stack shoes..
This shoe is for me too. I like the low stack midsole that uses the soft fuel cell cushion. Kinda wish it didn't have the carbon fiber plate, I don't the rigidity plates add to the shoe. As long as the upper can hold up to the abuse, this should be a great shoe for how I intend to use it.
@@jeffdorsey85 how did the upper hold up?
@Canyon it's done well. I was worried about the upper since it's very thin and breathable, but it's held up through running and a couple of outdoorsy vacations. My big toe is starting to cause some wear and tear though.
I fell in love with this one.
Hit PR's consistently at 60m (sprinting)
Extremely good for Tempos and Speed Work...
I'm so excited for this shoe, hopefully released in June for the UK too.
I liked the Fuel Cell but still couldn't get a good toe off in the Rebel, I think because of the fit. The Rebel 2 felt flat despite feeling the springy feel of the shoe. Weird.
Guys, I don't understand why you aren't more excited about this shoe. This might finally be the fast nimble plated race day shoe we have been waiting for for 5K to HM! The metaracer wasn't all that. But now it looks like a serious alternative to the high cushion super shoes!
Maybe because they ran in it and it's not that exciting
@@apollocreed3263 in their podcast, they mentioned that it's more geared toward 5-10K, if you want the low stack racer feel.
@@ericchevalley thanks for reply , what about version 1 R.C. elite , it seems like a better 5km shoe than this ?
@@apollocreed3263 apparently the RC elite is the softest of the super shoes. Comes down to preference? I would presume you don't need a soft midsole for a 5K.
@@ericchevalley oh whaaat, why didn't you like the metaracer?
Good evenning believe in run and all the runners from 🇪🇸. Thanks for this video guys, here is my like. Now, I have NB Fuelcell Prism v1 for short race. A nice week for everyone. 🌞🏃♂️🌞
I'm 200k on my Prisms and still loving them.
@@kuztro02 Hi. Well done!!! A nice day.
I bought these recently and I've found the fit super bizarre... until I tried without socks on. Wearing them barefoot is perfect and feels so natural. 😳
"Sometimes, you have to school the young guys..." 😂
We want to see the new spike lineup!!
New Balance Supercomp Trainer review coming soon........?
Love the GREEN LIGHT light💚
I have to know...did Thomas break the plate or not? (Could've edited in with a new shoe or from earlier takes for all the springy stuff shown after.) It definitely sounded crunchy...
No break, just a crunchy sound.
+1 not into high stack shoes, aggravate my knees & upper legs. Will try this shoe when released. Thanks for the review.
TBH, for a $150 or under, I could get me some Saucony Speed 1 or Pro 1, or now on sale Adidas Adizero 6 instead. Even a Kinvara will be great for a 5k under a $100 budget
I've been looking for a 10k and HM shoe that feels like a XC flat, provides enough cushion for the HM while avoiding the disco-platform-space-shoe stack, incorporates leading edge materials for bounce (FuelCell, here), pop/spring (carbon plate), and overall efficiency. I'll receive a pair of Pacers tomorrow and am optimistic these fit the bill.
I might be the only person looking for this shoe. If I'm running a 5k, I'll be in Nike Zoom Victory Waffle XC 5 (either rubber lug or spike option). Training in a Saucony Kilkenny XC (rubber-lugs) for runs up to 15 miles, but I have to tape up to prevent problems.
Thanks for the review. I think I am lucky I just got these shoes for only $51, 70% off. These shoes are fast!
I loved the shoe it replaced, the 1400. It was my everything shoe. I trained and raced in all versions of the shoes. The new super stacked shoes just don't work for me. I am worried that the plate would screw up the simplicity of the shoe for me. I will have to try it when it comes out.
How does this compare to Asics Metaracer?
Which raises the question.. what shoe is best for under 5k?
Probably a nice rival to the streakfly, I bet it’s more durable and it comes with a carbon plate
Would be interesting to see a comparison with the metaspeed edge.
A lot of 5k runners feel even the next% are too clunky, so the metaspeed edge and NB pacer seem aimed for that niche.
That's interesting to hear. I think the next% is a great road 5k shoe and have seen a bunch of top runners at the start line wearing them. Even gave seen runners wear the alphaflys but it does trend to be older runners wearing them
@@TimNguyen825 IMO vaporflys def are good for 5k, especially a situation where you just lock in and time trial. I believe the efficiency benefits certain translates across distances and they just make the race feel more comfortable. However, for the faster runners, especially in races where placing is more important, they do find them slightly more of a chore to turnover when they need to push the pace or trying to out sprint someone at the finish. For a 5k, I would gladly give up some comfort and cushioning For that ability to shift gears. Those niche situations would be where the SC pacer and the metaspeed edge come in handy.
The edge is more cushioned and built for the marathon
poor Brandon....got schooled!
I cringe when reviewers bend a shoe in half in attempt to show its stiffness. You are literally ruining a brand new shoe. A better technique would be to have a familiar/comparable shoe nearby that you can pick up, flex (within a Realistic angle/range). Then pick up the shoe under review to flex similarly to speak on how it compares to the familiar shoe. Relative comparisons like this are more valuable & relatable to viewers. Perhaps take it a step further and flex individually at the midfoot, then the forefoot to comment more specifically on where the stiffness is and how it relates to comparable shoes.
Other then that, Love the vids guys, keep it up!
I think these type of shoes such as the Streakfly can be used for cross country if the course has roads or something like that
I could see it if it were 5oz, but it's the same weight as higher stack shoes that can "activate" the carbon plate more. If it were 20mm or less and had a spike plate, it might be good for distance on the track.
Yeah that’s basically the LD-X. This shoe is weirdly heavy for it being lower stack and having a thin upper
Best channel.
Looks good! This might be the shoe for me as my specialty is 5k to 10k.
When will this be available? Thanks guys!
So its like the hanzo with a plate?
The people should wait for the Rebel v3. It's far more versatile , cheaper, and just a touch heavier.
Different use case...i have the rebel v2 and it is not a racer...just a fantastic daily to tempo pace trainer.
To unstable for me for long runs. RCV2 perfect for any distance but hard to corner fast and making a U turn feel like a truck on a roundabout.. Definitely getting the new high stack trainer. M
What is the release date for this shoe?
I run in adizero pro which has about 21, 22 stack height and it works well. SC Pacer is 25. Should be similar, right.
So does the "energy arc" cut out portion do anything to effect the ride of the shoe? That seems to be a big feature of the SC shoes. Would have been nice to hear some detailed thoughts on it.
I dont enjoy the feel of those ultrastack shoes, and this has been something I have been looking for and haven´t found quite the offering of any other brand
Would you say it's a Rebel v2 with a plate?
That's what I've been waiting for, since the Rebel V2 was too unstable (medial/laterally).
That would be a fair conclusion
What is the stack hight ❓
A lovely parkrun shoe!
It's a great looking shoe!!!
On first sight, I was hoping this was more similar to the New Balance RC5000. Anybody remember those? Now THAT was a fast, minimal shoe. I think those suckers weighed 82 grams/shoe. I had to sell my pair, though, I was terrified of running in them. 💀🤷🏼♂️
Seth James DeMoor
experienced the same cracking when flexing it his review video. Could yall further investigate this. Maybe bend the one that is cracked several more times then set it next to the fresher one and see if they still the same curvature(how high the toe is off the ground). Then flex each to see if the cracked one is still as stiff as the other. I had my hopes up for this shoe, but if its a defective design will go with a diff shoe and hold out for the next version. Please advise.
It has potential because it is soft and lightweight but your feet get protected from the road by having a plate.. I find the Rebel V2 to unstable. RCV2 excellent for everything but a bit unstable in corners and impossible for making a fast U turn. I find FuelCell much better than ZoomX.
Yeah I commented saying I think they are being harsh on this shoe. I also have and really like the RC Elite V2 but it's far from good on corners so now most shoes have maxed out I think we are finding that actually somewhere in the middle height with a good midsole is what most folk might get most advantage with as we aren't all running professional end to end marathons all the time.
complaints for weight in these modern shoes are actually funny... imagine 10 years ago. then nowadays people complain with a "3 gram" difference relative to nike's superfly and call that heavy., i mean 3 grams.., probably why i ain't "elite".
when will you drop the saucony ride 15 video ?
RC v1 still seems like a better option?
Which do you think better this or takumi sen 8?
Its more like a track interval trainer shoe?
When does the SC trainer come out?
3:21
Horrible sound
It is worth at 55 dollars? Thanks
Was there a actual weight given for the shoe
That seemed a really harsh review for me. They seemed to say pretty much all good things about it but were comparing it to the RC Elite V2 and Alphafly's ect but this shoe is probably more a 5km/Park Run to 10km shoe where there will be more corners and tighter turns maybe than a typical end to end Marathon. For example I have the RC Elite V2 and Alphafly's and find them both very fast but also have the Takumi Sen 8 which I have my local park run PB in as it's 3 laps of the course and there is two about 45 degree turns per lap and one over a narrow wooden bridge that the Alphafly's struggle with and really need to slow down on but less so with the Sen 8. So think this shoe has to be judged on its own merit plus at $150 for fuel cell midsole and full length carbon plate it seems like a total bargain by todays carbon running shoe prices.
I don’t think we said AlphaFLY one time in this video 🤷🏻♂️
Really goes with the territory of elite super shoes like Alphafly, Vaporfly, RC Elite V2 ect....
I just think this has the possibility to be a great shoe for maybe 15km and down. Like a Streakfly with added carbon plate as that's what a lot of reviews said that was kind of missing. I'm not knocking liking max stack shoes as I just had my first run in my Adidas Prime X shoes that arrived yesterday and really enjoyed it but think they are in the easy day, long runs category of shoe for me.
Soo this or the takumi sen8?
VaporFly for life, brah!
Could you wear these for a half marathon
Yes, if you like a sleeker feel
I do the great northern run in uk half marathon for charity might get this just for events
150 is low price ok keep it going
Does it come in black?! colours are gross. Love the name 'Pacer' though.
Snappy end of the shoe…
First form india
Good reviews so shame that one of the host be from and undiferentied sex preference is something bad for the childhood
more for less..not in my checkbook!
Guys , i love your channel but i have a suggestion , can you both show a little respect to the shoes you reviewed ? I am a designer , i can feel irritated when someone mocking my final product even it is their property.. and beside i believe some of your subscriber cant afford the shoes you review. So please be nice guys ...
Another person getting offended for other people. You have to accept the truth that not everyone would share your taste in fashion, design, food, automobile, architecture, art, music, etc. Stop getting irritated by everything people around you do, it would make your day better.
Priced way too high for what will ultimately be a niche shoe.
I think the carbon plate makes it a better version of a 5/10km racer than the streakfly is and at the same price I think it'll be a great seller. Maybe the only problem is the Adidas Takumi Sen 8 and Nike Streakfly have gotten out first so most people will have probably went for them first as I know I did with the Takumi Sen 8 but I really enjoy the Fuelcell midsole in the RC Elite V2's I have, & at only around £115 (today's conversion rate from $150) or whatever it will be I might still be tempted by these.
@@scottfinlayson8920 I don't doubt New Balance will make great margins from this shoe, but it's not going to move a lot of units when more versatile shoes (that have more mass market appeal) like the Speed exist in that price bracket.
I have the Saucony Endorphin Speed (if that's what you are talking about) but as much as I like the look and fit of the shoe and the way it causes no trouble getting good lockdown ect... the place where it does lack is in the actual speed, I find it a very slow shoe and wouldn't pick it for any type of race or fast effort. The Pro Plus on the other hand is getting closer but nothing beats the Alphafly's & RC Elite V2's for me and to a lesser extent the Vaporfly's. I'm a bit of a running shoe grabber when I see them on offer. Just had my first outting in the Adidas Prime X shoe today as well.
I dont understand you logic. It is literally cheaper than all other carbon plated shoes(in many cases by a large margin), and also cheaper than the nylon plated Endorphin Speed. It is more comparable in price to many current premium Trainers. NB did a great job bringing their superfoam & carbon in a racer to the market for 150 bucks. I think you underestimate the NB 1400/1500 following. We have been waiting Years for this shoe😉
Will they make this in a size 14? Because frankly I’m sick of these fucking companies not making my size in fast shoes. What, fast people aren’t tall?