FLIES AKA THE FLY SEQUEL - WTF Happened to this Unmade Horror Movie
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- FLIES AKA THE FLY SEQUEL - Renny Harlin, David Cronenberg - WTF Happened to this Unmade Horror Movie
In our latest episode of "The Horror Movie That Almost Was" we're taking a look at the sequel to Cronenberg's "The Fly", aptly titled "Flies." Would this have followed in the steps of the original? Would Cronenberg have returned in order to right the wrongs of the sequel we DID get? And could any of the original stars be lured back into the fold? We answer all of those questions and more, so take a look!
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Hey man, don't knock the original Fly movie. It STILL creeps me out. That last scene is high octane nightmare fuel.
I would say The Fly 2 is underrated
Awesome movie this guy dont know
You _would_ say that. That’s *so* you.
The part with the dog and what happens to the evil boss in the end TERRIFIED me as a child!! But, looking at it as an adult, the part with the dog is so sad I actually cried. Didn't feel bad for the boss, though.
@@greenkoopa They should have called it the McFly lol 🤣🤣
Not really … boring mostly
It might also be worth mentioning that there was a comic book series some years ago which followed up on the sequel with a sort of plague breaking out and turning a bunch of people into fly mutants.
I look at Jeff Goldblum The Fly as a tragedy. It's ultimately a really sad movie.
Pretty much, a man who gave everything to his work till it destroyed him, losing his humanity day by day as he becomes a monster of his own making
The Fly II wasn't bad. It has some seriously intense nightmare fuel.
that doesn't mean it's not bad.
It was a decent movie, it just lacked the Goldblum magic.
With how out of control Jeff's character was, to how almost in control his child was, it felt like the story still had one more movie left in it. A third generation that was totally in control of his fly, but lacking humanity perhaps.
You're drastically underselling the original film. All of the themes you mentioned from the remake were 100% present in the first movie. What Cronenberg added in his version was his typical obsession with "flesh" (a theme that's also explored in his previous films, especially Videodrome) and the pleasures/horrors of the human body. His remake was excellent, but it was built on the foundation of an already great 1950s horror film.
I've heard the reboot was already planned to have more emphasis on a gradual transformation before Cronenberg came on board. Not to take anything away from how he worked that idea.
Pfft, give me a break the 1950's movie is inferior compared to Cronenberg's masterpiece Lol.
anyone remembered the second woman Seth Brundle was having sex with in the first movie; supposed she gotten pregnant that would have been an interesting plot to follow this 'offspring'
0:55 You watch what you say. The Fly is one of the greatest sci-fi horror movies of the 50's, one of the greatest ever made. It's one of Vincent Price's best films as well, and is still beloved by many. I for one think it's better than the remake. And as for corny, those special effects still get props today. That stuff was cutting edge, especially the fly vision.
The fly 2 with Eric Stoltz was good
I agree with you! Fly II is very underrated! Came here to post this lol
Yeah was awesome stupid people
Agree.. It's not close to the original, but it's far better than most horror sequels.. I really enjoy the fly 2
@@mullaoslo Only problem is that the "Practical overshadowing CGI" arguments pretty much ruined every 80's movie like Ghostbusters 2 and The Fly 2 I enjoyed the most since I'm usally the only one that likes both like Jurassic Park.
Not to mention, they even use that argument as a Death Battle/Powerscaling joke now :/
You know, Brundle was disintegrated and reintegrated, so some version of him could still be in the buffer of the machine. You know, kind of like the transporter has a buffer for incoming data in Star Trek. Brundle could literally “appear”, in a earlier non-fly state, inside the machine or somewhere after they rebuild it and find the data that is the Brundle.
They "bring him back" and nobody knows about the fly. They keep him in the hospital for observation because of the age and condition of his "data", but he grows suspicious and of course it turns out he's a prisoner/property of the corporation. He breaks free and discovers there is a whole facility full of other "recreations" of him in various stages of transformation, and he is only the most recent. They've done this so many times before that they'd grown complacent, but the "data" *had* in fact begun to corrupt (an actual fly shorting a circuit might be too on the nose, but I like it), and this Brundlefly is undergoing a much more rapid (and painful) transformation. This allows him to overpower guards who don't expect him to have developed his strength so soon. He frees the other Brundleflies from their cages, some are recent and even less transformed than he has become by this point, but some are unrecognizable as having any humanity at all. They've been kept in three isolated groupings, that the facility staff have nicknamed "Brundles", "Brundleflies" (they're moved here shortly before the physical symptoms become noticeable), and the titular "Flies", who are inhuman beasts that wreak havoc when freed.
@@CrashHeadroom Well, shit.
I made the same assumption because they could retrieve an ancient version of him intact. In fact, with a teleportation, all matters become data and all datas can be duplicated
@@echocharliepapathey should make this the plot if another movie ever comes out , this seems perfect
Well done! Released today is Gina Davis's autobiography, 'Dying of Politeness' where she confirmed everything in this video! Spot on, my man.
She suggested that the story would be of her being on trial for killing one of her teenage children, with their decline into horror and madness told in retrospect.
Hey now, Don't talk bad about Eric Stoltz, he was great on The Wild Life...
He's great in everything.
and Killing Zoe as well
and Mask
Jeff Goldblum returning as Seth Brundle's twin sibling could work.
Funny thing, Geena really could kick ass, considering she almost competed in the Olympics. Check out "Long Kiss Goodnight." And the original '50's film scared the holy hell out of me, with the goriest opening ever in a film back made then.
I’ve never heard of this and I love the original and Cronenberg movie
The sequel to the remake was pretty good too me too
I always thought a great way to incorporate Jeff Goldblum's Seth Brundle in any sort of sequel/soft reboot/whatever would be for someone to analyze the original computer that performed the two teleportation experiments and...ahhhh, Dammit...I just saw somebody else's comment saying the same thing. Shit.
I am really loving this series (even outside the Horror genre)
Reny Harlin is so hit or miss I'm not sure how it would've turned out
I had to pause at the Olsen Twins joke I was laughing so hard!
+1
Its crazy to think Eric stoltz was the original Marty Mcfly... he was of course replaced with Michael j Fox..but its crazy to think of what could have been... I always think of "Mask" whenever he is brought up. 👌🪰
I love The Fly II movie, but this idea of the Flies would have been very interesting
I don't even know what happened to the unmade Fly sequel anymore sadly.
All I can think about now is that same old Death Battle joke "Practical Puppets vs CGI" ._.
1:48 this makes me remember when Freddie Mercury used to deny his HIV condition saying "do I look im dying from AIDS?" 😥
So basically someone once suggested “we should do a Fly reboot” and somehow this warrants a video? You can quite literally do this for any film that made a profit ever.
Wait, people don't know about the original 1950s The Fly? I
the "help me, help me" in a hitch pitch fly voice was a meme I grew up with.
The Fly II was a good sequel. Could they go further with story? YES PLEASE. You still have the original actors with Cronenberg out there. This can still happen.
They had that dude from “The Fly”. The one who was the previous flame before Brundle. I forgot if he still had his facial hair in “The Fly II”. He did play an asshole really well 😊.
Yeah, budget concerns with two flies in the 80s or early 90s would have been huge. A lot of the budget for the first one went into the incredible, but screentime-limited, effects and the big name stars. The rest of the movie is so surprisingly small scale the composer easily adapted it to stage. There's like 3 main characters, and a few extras in a small bar, and a handful of sets with almost no exterior shots. Most of the movie's Geena and Jeff talking and moving from one room to another, and their charisma's just good enough to carry the first two thirds of the movie. You try blowing up the scope, you've got well lit houses, schools, drives, friends, child actors, two sets of transforming effects make-up...you've probably doubled the cost and time for making the movie.
The Vincent Price original was good, as was The Fly II with Eric Stoltz.
5:00 though it hasn't become a classic, I think "The Long Kiss Goodnight" is worth mentioning since Geena then got her strong female lead there.
Funnily enough there is a Fly sequel, in the form of a comic called the Fly: Outbreak, taking place after the events of The Fly 2. It is absolutely terrible, but hey, it exists so there you go.
What’s the movie call ?
Hollywood, uh, finds a way.
Y'know, I think this proposed sequel would make for a good graphic novel. George Lucas' original draft for Star Wars was adapted and the original screenplay for Alien 3 got the graphic novel treatment!
Edit: I specifically mean Geena Davis's idea for the twin sons. This sounds like a phenomenal story!
Even though I don't think The Fly ('86) should ever be remade/rebooted again, as a huge fan I can't help but think of ideas for a satisfying continuation of the story.
Like, it could start with people near/outside Brundles warehouse loft and they hear the gunshot (and screaming) and go investigate it. They arrive just as Stathis and Veronica leave in Stathis's car.
They go inside and are shocked when they find the Brundlefly's corpse, and think it might be some kind of alien.
As an idea, I thought the people could be Marky and Tawny. Marky wants revenge on Brundle for breaking his arm, and Tawny knows where he lives.
Sometime later Tawny discovers that she's pregnant, but what she doesn't know is that she's pregnant with Brundle's baby.
That's as far as I've thought so far. Also, Tawny wouldn't be the main character for long.
Yeah great point, a lot of people forget about Tawny but that definitely leaves an opening to continue The Fly story
Way better than some of today's films both of them, great without CGI too, some of it looks awesomely real, you care more
Hey man. Eric Stoltz is iconic in Pulp Fiction.
Jeff Goldblums return? Well, Brundle and the flies’ DNA was interpreted by the teleportation machine and resequenced wasn’t it. So there must be a log of his and the flies’ DNA. So couldn’t he return as a Brundle-Fly clone without his memory and the Lab could use suppressants on him to keep his super strength but not his full transformation?
Great video, but I hate the concept... Any of them: the Geena Davis one, the female swap remake, even the Cronenberg reboot, I love the director and "no sequels" in his filmography is one of the reasons why. Thanx!!!
I’d like a “Flies” sequel with acid-puking teen kids! That’d be almost like a “Garbage Pail Kids” version of “The Fly” franchise.
If they wanted Jeff back…why wouldn’t the Fly baby just grow expediently into Jeff Goldblum!?
They could maybe of brought Seth back by somehow teleporting his pure self back that was saved in the machine? I think that could work. but yeah they wrecked it.
They did not have no rotten tomato score back in 1989 when the flat two came out .. there is no topping the fly 1 but the fly 2 was pretty good and creepy
Eric Stoltz did a great job in Killing Zoe, Fluke, and Mask, but it's a shame how his career never seemed to take off.
Rotten tomatoes didn't exist at the time. Wait internet didn't exist at the time
Yeah but there was no World Wide Web and no websites dedicated to films.
@georgegershwin327
7:37 More like “any form of this on screen, is box-office Gold... blum.”
Having goldblum reappear as seths long lost brother would fit perfectly with then 80s 90s feeling a new fly movie should have (if its set in universe with the cronenberg movie)
Hey!!! I liked The Fly 2! And it had nothing to do with Eric Stoltz... It was that sexy princess vespa!
I remember reading the director of Sleight was developing a remake. Obviously nothing came of it.
I don't think it needs a sequel tho
Eric stoltz the mask Eric stoltz pulp fiction
To be honest ginger snaps is true rubbish trash compare to The Fly 2 which is a great film even though it is hated but its still a great film instead of a trashy sequel
Flies the fly 3….. I still pray an element can incorporate the hooker from original fly
Movie pregnant and an other more evil fly human hybrid beast is unleashed…. But make it very like aliens let’s see a fly female human hybrid…. Egg laying monster cocoons Martin brundle can be the hero forced to become monster if Veronica were not dead I can see her being the Ellen ripley of the story…… mom son fighting an evil insect freak show
That script sounds like trash. lol
If you really want a great sequel, look at the The Fly 3 Graphic novel. It needs some rework, but it’s quite awesome.
Well, now that Disney has a universe that includes Spider-man, I think we know who the antagonist should be.
I'm only half kidding, the Fly always seemed like a dark shadow of the classic superhero story, especially Spider-man. And most of his rogues gallery are failed science projects.
I could easily see a story like the Fly be a weekly occurence in the Marvel universe.
Why am I only learning about the original sequel to the original “The Fly ,” movie only now??? I must might possibly like the original “The Fly,” better than the remake!?
The alternate sequel that never happened.
Hard disagree. The last 30 minutes of the fly 2 are epic, and it gets a very satisfying ending.
I hope having a decent Fly reboot before Crononberg dies, I think he is the only one capable to perform a great great movie!!!
that's touching.
Sweeeeet
Just as well it didn't happen.
The narrator is so smug
I always wondered if that other women Seth Brundle had sex with became impregnated as well.
keep wondering.
Please noooo female led reboot. Infact we have a perfectly good fly movie and don't need any reboots or sequels to the sequel or anything else.
Not even a 2D animated series like that HBO Spawn series from the 90's?? :/
Cause that'll be dumb if people think that doesn't count.
These Fly movies are just simply Bee movies. They're quite the buzz.
I see what you did there
THE FLY 2 is a very good movie ;)
Good video apart from the cringe attempts at humour
The Fly 2 is not a trashy monster sci-fi exploitation horror film it may be an exploitation horror film but its still great compare to trashy monster horrors like watchers 1,2,3 and watchers reborn or other sci-fi trash like leviathan and deep star six or even graveyard shift or body horrors like rapid or the brood or even cronnenberg’s classic piece of shit movie naked lunch or even shitty films like videodrome or reanimator or hp lovecraft’s dagon or beneath still waters or even Hong Kong shaw brothers exploitation body horror like seeding of a ghost or devil fetus or devil fetus 2 the rape after all these films i ‘ve seen them all and i hated it to me its all shit for brains garbage films compare to the fly or the fly 2 take my word for it
The tone of this video is really douchy for some reason.
Agreed