2024 Grand Design Influence 2903RL SHAKEDOWN TRIP & MISHAPS
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- 🫨Stan and Rhonda share with their viewers their first shakedown trip in their brand new Grand Design Influence 2903RL. They get off to a rough start just getting out of their side yard and down their driveway. A few miles down the road they hear something rattling in the back of the truck and they have to make an emergency stop along the highway. They install a few upgrades they feel are the most important and change out the stock mattress. Come with Stan and Rhonda as they share their first trip ever pulling a fifth wheel trailer.
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I was stressed for you all on this one! I think I was even close to biting my nails! 😬
Super cool to see a bit of your parents, Rhonda! ❣
Hi Kori and Jack! I sure hope this process gets easier, lol! We are feeling pretty confident now with the hookup process at least 👏 Thanks for coming along with us! ~ Rhonda and Stan
Wow! Backing out of the driveway we were holding our breaths! Great job communicating! So weird with the noise being the level buckets! And hope you can figure out the door issue! Having to get out of a car or truck on any hwyway comes with risks and people don't get over! Safe travels 💙
Hi Deb and Joel, we got mostly everything worked out. Thank you for joining us! Safe travels! 🙏🏼❤️
You're going to love it! We have never had problems with the rear landing gear. It will be fine.
Hi Julie, we are 5,000 miles into Season 7. We are doing great and loving it! Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
We would actually get flagged down to tell us our back jacks were too low. Very nice of people to want to help. Great video as always, thank you!
Hi Stuward, thank you for coming along with us! We got flagged down too! Folks all want to help! Blessings, Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
I think the more you tow the 5th wheel you’re gonna see how much better it is than the bumper tow.
I went from a Grand Design 17MKE being towed by a 2019 Silverado 2500HD double cab SB 4x4 (so overkill for that small trailer) to a Rockwood 2622RK being towed by a RAM 3500 crew cab 4x4 long bed (again, over kill for a 10k 5th wheel) and I’ll take towing the old rig over the new one. Got into some serious winds in Nebraska and Iowa this last week and it was throwing the trailer and truck around like a rag doll.
We love the extra space but definitely miss the clear bed for our e-bikes and stuff.
And I won't talk about the over 13 foot height…. 🙄
Thank you for the encouragement! We are happy to say that we are close to 5k miles and we already see and feel a big difference. Definitely happy with this purchase and the hitch! Thanks for reaching out. ~ Rhonda and Stan
@@BillUtah Hi Bill, I’m not sure why that is happening. We are sold as a rock in the wind. We feel it less than our bumper pull and we are two feet higher. The air bags have helped us a lot. Thank you for joining us again. Stan and Rhonda🙏💕
@@OverTheHillAdventures your quite welcome. Happy travels.
Wow’s close call but great teamwork by you guys. I have seen some other people with your camper and the back jacks are very similar. One of them asked GD if they can raise them up and I think they can. Happy travels. Thanks From Wisconsin
That was close, getting out of the driveway. I always enjoy your videos. Stay safe
Hello Barbara, thank you for joining us! We have a little more practice under our belt. Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Hi Stan & Rhonda. Wow, tucking that fifth wheel in next to your garage and getting it back out again looks like a challenge requiring full attention from both of you. Man, that rear rain gutter spout was touch and go!
We just got our first fifth wheel last week after 4 travel trailers. It towed nice and steady. I definitely found out like you did that it responds slower when backing, it takes a little extra time to react to steering input. My wife & I do like you do and use our cell phones to communicate while maneuvering.
We love the Lippert Ground Control 3.0!
After each trip you get more and more comfortable. Happy trails…
Hi Jim, we have been on the road a couple of months now a little over 5,000 miles. We love our new rig! We have taking Flo W up to the highest mountains and back down. The truck has done incredible!! I think our truck is really happy. Fuel mileage has stayed the same. Will be back home for a couple of months and we will be off again. Maybe even into Canada. We’ll be home for the winter and off hopefully God willing off to the Florida Keys in spring.
@@OverTheHillAdventures We’re heading to San Diego for September & October to see our son. We live in Western New York so it’s going to be a heck of trip. Will be passing through Lake Havasu area at end of August. Looking at Buckskin Mountain, River Island or Lake Havasu state parks. Any advice on that and a decent restaurant would be greatly appreciated.
@@jimcurry5458definitely go to Lake Havasu State Park. Get site on the lake. Best sunset ever!! The London Bridge has lots of good restaurants. Great place to walk around!!
@@OverTheHillAdventures Thanks so much. If you’re in town then who knows, maybe we could meet you out somewhere and buy you guys a cold drink.
Definitely let us know! We are heading back to California at the end of August to celebrate our grandson’s Birthday before heading out for Season 8. We’d love to meet you if it works out!
You can email us at overthehilladventure@gmail.com or reach out on Facebook or Instagram Messenger. 👏
I believe you. Those first trips can be shaky. You all are doing good. Blessings
Hi Betty Jo, we have more adventures coming soon! Blessings, Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Hey Stan and Rhonda,
So happy for you and your new rig. I had the same problem with my rear jacks. If you can’t move them up(like ours) then Lippert makes a 24.5 inch replacement leg for the 3.0 leveling system. You can find them on their website. If yours are too low they may replace them for you!!
We can definitely moved them up. That will probably be a new video. 😂. Thank you for the great advice! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
I know about nail-biting finishes, but I just about gnawed to the cuticles from the start of this video! 😅
Mom and Dad look great, Rhonda. God bless them. Safe and happy travels, Rhonda and Stan.🙏🏾❤️👍🏾
Raul, I’ll tell you, this tight fit situation seems to have been the story of our life 😅😂 We have already gotten better at getting it in and out of the side yard 🙌 The next event will be trying to get it in the RV garage once we get the low profile ac on the front. Could still be close 🙏 Thank you for your sweet words about my parents. They are honestly the best! Have a great week! ~ Rhonda and Stan
Man it must be fun backing in beside your house lol . were pulling about 12K and i run about 28 psi on the 5500 bags, it sits level and rides good on the chevy hd . thanks for the videos .
Hi Mike, the goal is to get it in the garage. Rhonda does a good job when backing. I just listen and she tells me where to go. Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Well.... I know we can't mooch dock at your house!😜
Why not you’ll fit!! Ours is a wide body too! Yours is a a little longer! lol 😂. You’re welcome to try!! It might be a nail biter. However it will be great content. “The Fail of Mooch-Docking”. You would definitely have to unload the Smart car first.
Yes, I did move the rear stabilizer jacks up. I went up as high as I could. I do have to use some yellow plastic blocks on the rear jacks. They don’t have the length of travel as the front jacks do, they have less travel. And GIRL, remember, close only works on hand grenades, and horseshoes.
Oh Tim, thanks for the laugh 😂 I think we are gonna move the rear levelers up a notch or two. We had a guy run after us thinking we forgot to put them up 🫣 Thanks for sharing! Blessings friends!
My buddy moved his up one hole and it did wonders. As for mine, we upgraded the axels to 8k with disc brakes at last years quartzite rally ( our first) and it added about 2 inch’s to the ride hight.
Always check that the 'snap jack pins' on your front landing gear going ALL THE WAY THROUGH the tubular metal wall before putting weight on them.......I have seen too many times that people rely on them "automatically" going through, or snap into place, and they didn't quite go through and then the weight of the 5th wheel goes on them and they BEND. Just FYI.
Thank you! That is an awesome tip! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Have same issue with test jacks on reflection. Since they are the electric ones, I take the feet off when traveling. Gives you a few more inches of clearance
We have adjustments so we can bring it up a couple of holes. Thank you for your comment. We have been up and down our driveway a few times since this video was filmed. We are 5,000 miles in. Thank you for your comment. Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Where you run in your height issue on your drive just get a couple of 2X6X8 boards to have the trailer run up and over. The added height will take care of your worry.
No worries thank you!
Good video Stan and Rhonda! I'm sure you got it down to a science now. Everytime I see the Influence the more I love it. How's that mattress? Looks comfy ❤ I was biting my nails on this one to. Your mom and dad sure look
good. Love molly the supervisor🐾😂
Hi Lorie! We are getting the hang of the hooking up and setting up, but pulling in the side yard is a whole other story 😂 We shall see in a few weeks when we get back. I’m sure Stan will do it like a pro 👏🙏 We are both loving the Nectar! Usually I start rolling into the middle and that hasn’t happened yet 😂 The foam mattress works great with movement and not feeling the other move in the night. Look forward to seeing you guys again soon! 💕Maybe you can come meet my parents 🙏
Looking forward to seeing you guys. Enjoy! Safe travels❤ We would love to meet them. Let us know when your in town😉
This was very un-nerving to watch! I would agree, I don't think you can go any bigger. LOL! Well, you are learning a lot with the new rig. Nice film work of the Snap Pads. I believed you locked it! - Michelle
Hi Michelle, we are learning so much! Rhonda definitely locked it. We took more material out of the door jam so the RV lock could fully extend. We are good now! Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
@@OverTheHillAdventures So glad to hear it is working now! 😃
I didn’t know Over the Hill Adventure was a suspense video!😊 I was getting scared as you were leaving your house and on the side of the road. I am glad you are both okay and enjoying your rig. I’m sure all the kinks are worked out now.
Hi Claudia! We were sweating just reliving it 😅😂 We are doing much better navigating this beast, lol! I’m sure Stan will get it backed in with no problems once we get home. Always great to hear from you! Thanks for making us laugh 😂 Suspense Video 🤣 😘
Another foot of width on the side yard where you park the trailer would sure be nice.
Hi Billy! You’re telling us 😅😂
We also discovered the fifth wheel responds slower than the bumper pull so when I back him up it isn’t an immediate response. We are hitting 5k miles and getting the hang of it all. Thanks for watching! ~ Rhonda and Stan
We have the S2930RL (older version). You can raise the rear jacks at least 1 set of bolt holes. That will give you clearance that you need for your driveway.
You may want to inspect the lag screws on each side of your bedroom where the wall meets the framing. Most GD 5th wheels have undersized lag screws (3/8” instead of 1/2” - the frame was drilled for 1/2” / also there are likely missing lag screws on each side). You can check these yourself and correct this while brand new and before any issues arise.
Happy camping!
Hi Mark! Thank you so much for the great advice. It is well noted especially knowing you basically own the same rig. We are camping next to a couple who used to have your model and he just told us the same thing about the levelers. Love this RV community! Thanks for reaching out. ~ Rhonda and Stan
You won’t regret getting the 5th wheel
Jim, So true already. We just hit about 5k miles and we love this rig! Even took her on the Million Dollar Highway 🫣😬 Can’t wait to share. Thanks for reaching out! ~ Rhonda and Stan
Great video guys, yeah every time I buy an rv I put Snap Pads on, oh, hi mom and dad you have an awesome parents.
Good morning Bishop George 🌞 Thank you! My parents are truly the best and so supportive of our endeavors. We feel SnapPads should come on all trailers 👍 Always great to hear from you! ~ Rhonda and Stan
Salut! so outstanding upload-🤩
Thank you kindly! ~ Rhonda and Stan
On our 2600RB the door latch constantly works it's self open and we have to always deadbolt it when traveling. It did it with the factory latch and the RV Lock latch. I called RV Lock and they sent me a deeper strike plate and it still happens. the deadbolt keeps the door closed going down the road but we have to push the door in every time before unlocking the deadbolt so the regular latch engages.
Hi Sean, what we discovered is that we had to take more material out of the door jam. The deadbolt on the RVLock was not extending all the way. If the deadbolt can’t extend completely, you can simply push it and it will unlock. Once we got more material out no more problems. Thank you for joining us. Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Our RV Lock did this. The vibration of the door would cause the deadbolt to move inward enough for the door to open. It took a while to find it. When the door comes open, check to see how far out the deadbolt is. Push on it with your finger. Ours pushed in very easy. the deadbolt was pretty sloppy allowing the vibration to make it come off the latch cam. RV Lock replaced the lock and so far so good. On the new one the dead bolt does not have as much slop and it requires more force to put it in and out. Best Wishes! God's blessings!
Yes!! Thank you so much for this comment. What we did was take out a little more material from the door jam so the deadbolt can fully extend into the door jam. Problem fixed no more problems. Thank you for sharing this was a great comment!! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
We have to take the feet off our stabilizers to clear our steep driveway. Even with that we only have an inch or two of clearance. It still makes me nervous, but my husband has his marks and gets it right every time. 😊 Always an adventure with a new rig. Enjoy!
Hi Kari, Oh my goodness! That’s close and we totally get it! We now have a marked path as well so it’s gotten less stressful 😅🙏 It’s definitely been an adventure! Thanks for reaching out! ~ Rhonda and Stan
Love your new adventure rig. On our 5th wheel we wanted to add snap pads but our driveway would not allow for the clearance! Enjoy!!!
Good morning Diane 🌞 Bummer on the SnapPads not allowing clearance for your driveway. Keep your eyes open because they are coming out with something else that might work for you soon. 👏 Great to hear from you! ~ Rhonda and Stan
You could have just driven the left side up on blocks to tilt it to the passenger side.
Good directing with the walkie! I don't know if we could back that close and straight!! You two are expert!!
Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
I like your shirt, Stan!
Hi Jim! Thanks! One of my favorites too. Rhonda says I wear it so much it doesn’t look like I have any other shirts 😂
Man that was suspenseful pulling out! We have a similar situation but not that bad... Think you will ever get used to it? I bet you can feel the wind more in that big unit - i bet the air hags helped a lot though. There's always something going to go wrong on that first trip... Hopefully not too bad though. Great episode!
Hi Bob and Dang! There’s a learning curve for sure 😅 But we are approaching 5k miles and Stan is feeling much more confident 👏 He says he felt the wind more with the Imagine 🤷♀️ We are loving it! Thanks for hanging out with us tonight 😅😂
Those snap pads might make backing into the drive next time even closer soooooo. Safe travels guys
Hi Ron, we have been up and down the driveway a few times now since this video was filmed. We have got it down to a science. However, I think I’m going to move up the rear jacks a hole or two. Love those SnapPads! Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Break out the Vaseline Stan! That is tight!
you might have a point! 😂 That made us sweat reliving it! Thanks for hangout with us tonight. ~ Stan and Rhonda
We actually got locked out of our motorhome! Having problems with our lock as well. Wont work by code, have to use the key! Inside the rig you really have to pull hard on door to make sure it's shut then lock. Goong outside you have to check door handle to make sure it's unlocked so you don't get locked out! Crazy & need to figure something out 😮🤔‼️
Hi Cindy, Have you tried contacting RVLock’s customer service by chance? They may be able to help you out or send you a new one. It’s obviously not doing what it’s supposed to be doing. We discovered that the place in the door jam where the lock inserts wasn’t deep enough. Stan ended up carving out more room and it works perfectly now. Here is their contact info. Hope this helps you resolve your issue. Thanks for reaching out! ~ Rhonda and Stan
www.rvlock.com/pages/contact-us
We love towing the 5th wheel. As for your door popping open ours does unless we lock it. Not sure why but we found if you lock it it has never opened. Safe travels
Hi Ronald, We are getting close to 5k towing miles and we aren’t looking back 😄 Loving the fifth wheel! Thanks for reaching out! ~ Rhonda and Stan
We hope to see you guys at the Quartzite rally next year. Until then safe travels
That would be awesome! It’s the one GD Rally we plan on attending every year 👏
9:09 your rear leveling jacks are fine. As you can see coming out the driveway, the rear end of the trailer would hit hit if the jacks got close. This is called the departure angle. The imaginary line from the tire where it makes contact with the ground to the rear hitch is the plane to stay above . And it looks like your jacks are above the plane. Hope that makes sense.
Yes it does thank you!!
Hey Stan… did you say 40 PSI in your air bags?
When I first put mine on my Ram 2500 (2300# pin weight on my 5er) I put 25# in mine. Truck rode like the axle was welded to the frame.
Talked to my brother who has experience with them and he laughed. Told me try about 7 to 10 PSI. MUCH better!
So this is what I discovered. These new air bags are heavy duty. I’m running them right at 25lbs now! They are just an 1/8 above the helper l leaf spring. I ran with 10lbs on the Million Dollar Highway that was definitely not enough. When I hit the expansion joints on the road I can feel it bottoming out the leaf springs. It’s running really nice now the truck is level. Thank you for the comment I’m sure lots of folks our learning from this. Thank you! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
We saw your rig in Ouray Colorado, a couple weeks ago...Colorado Video coming?
Yes, we are 6 weeks behind.
Hey Stan do yoy have the long bed truck with your andersen hitch. Our chev 3500 is the reg standard bed and we have out pin mount turned to the back so we can maneuver in tighter turns
Hi Melody, Ours is a short bed and we have it installed forward. It all depends on the setup. We can do 45 degree turns with no problem with our set up. Thanks for reaching out. ~ Rhonda and Stan
Anything that is used for the trailer , I keep in the trailer. So your front jack risers I'd put in the basement.
Good tip thank you! Basement is full no room. Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
I would have let the air out of the tires on the passenger side of the trailer...
Thanks for the advice. We are happy to announce we actually found a good trajectory that works every time 👏 We appreciate you reaching out! ~ Rhonda and Stan
Since you have snap pads on your landing jacks get rid of those buckets.
Hi Greg, I still like them because they shortened the stroke of the levelers. Thank you we appreciate your comment. Hope things are working out for. We have not had on issue with our Influence. We have gone 5,000 miles in a month. Absolutely loving our trailer! Wish the best for you! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼
Oh, my goodness...I think I stopped breathing at the beginning!
Hi Pat, the good news is we’re becoming pros at this 5th wheel stuff. So much easier. We love our new rig! Thank you for joining us every week! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
😂 Hi Pat! It’s no wonder my anxiety level is high on those days 😅 Thanks for hanging in there with us. I’m sure this will get easier. 🙏 ~ Rhonda and Stan
@@OverTheHillAdventures You guys are pros!
Hi, nice video. Those Snap Pads are going to decrease your rear jack clearance even more. I’m sure you know that but please be careful.
Hi Jim, thank you! We are being told we can bring our jacks up one hole. Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Well, that was certainly a nail biter getting y'all's rig out of the driveway!! Yikes!! We certainly have been in some really tight spots, too (lost a kitchen window to a branch I didn't see one time). So, how's the new rig towing for you? Is your mileage different with the new rig than what y'all were towing before? We're still thinking about a small 5th wheel but still need to shop and compare prices. Then, there are the 9%+ interest rates! 🤢🤮
Safe travels, and God bless y'all!
Bob and Dottie
Hello Bob and Dottie, so good to hear from you! We are about 5,000 miles in and love it! Our gas mileage is about the same. Remember you don’t pay more 30% of asking. 100K rig you should only pay 70K. US Bank 7.1%. Second home so you right off the interest. We are currently in Rocky Mountain National Park. We have lots of adventures coming up. Blessings to you both, Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
@OverTheHillAdventures - We've been looking around, and we're seeing asking $65K marked down to $40K - $45K. We can knock that lower by selling our current trailer. The ones we're looking at are about 29' long with a GVWR of 10,000# (the legendary mythical half-ton towable). Be glad y'all don't live in Texas; y'all's current rig would require I obtain a Class A Noncommercial Driver's License (Truck GVWR + Trailer GVWR > 26,000#). Fortunately, Arizona doesn't require that.
Safe travels, and God bless y'all!
Bob and Dottie
@@robertcolpitts4534our truck and trailer weighs 22,000lbs
Women use Flow or Aunt Flow as an indication they are on their time of the month, maybe you want to rethink that one. 😉
That’s pretty funny! Thanks for the insight, but we like the name Flo and she does too 🤣 Flo With The Wind actually means a current of air, sometimes of considerable force, moving generally horizontally from areas of high pressure to areas of low pressure. 💨 Thanks for reaching out! ~ Rhonda and Stan
Our door pops open with those door handles when on rough roads. If our door handle wasn’t covering it when we travel our would open too. We haven’t found a fix.
Hello there! Thanks for sharing your experience. We discovered that the deadbolt wasn’t embedding in the door jam and it was somehow causing the door to unlock. Stan carved more room in the jam and it seems to be working. Maybe you can take a look at that possibility. Thanks for watching! Rhonda and Stan
Holy smokes that's close!
Happy to report we are getting much better 😅😂 We found our trajectory 🙌
I'm not picking on you, no offense intended. BUT so many people when they hit retirement age buy these large 5th wheels, Class A's. Many have never driven anything larger than their Honda Civics or their 1/2 ton p/u. It's a whole new world for them. Reaction time slows with age, consideration for meds. that might influence reaction time. There are many of us seniors (I'm 68) just shouldn't be driving/pulling large rigs or any for that matter. I think education and training should be a National mandate. I kinda do know what I'm talking about. Early in life I drove semi's, heavy equip op for 20 plus years, over 2 Mil. miles accident free, Sheriff's Deputy for over 17 years. I've seen way too much carnage because of inability, inexperience and proper training.
Hi Richard, thank you for your service. I’m a retired Sergeant from the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department. I did 27 years and retired 2019. I was also the commander of the for the Bear Valley Search and Rescue team. Drove a Ford F450 and towed a 26,000lbs snow cat. I will never buy a Ford.
Towing a fifth wheel is much easier than pulling our old bumper pull. Having said that, our fifth wheel is pretty small in comparison to others. We are only 34’ 4” only 4 feet longer than our longer than our bumper pull. We are shorter in over all length. We choose an active life style unfortunately many folks decided when they retire it’s time to die on a couch! We try to inspire folks to get active and enjoy their retirement and find their new adventure. I will agree there are some but very few that should not be on the road. 98% will out drive a youngster. I’m 62 and love our life. The guy next to me is in his late 70’s driving a million dollar rig in great shape! Thank you for joining us! I encourage to subscribe to our channel and get to know us. Rhonda and I travel the country and mountain bike downhill. How many sixty year olds you know do that? Blessings to you sir, Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
@@OverTheHillAdventures Small world eh? I pretty well did it all, jail, 911 operator, Deputy, Transport of USMS Inmates including "Con-Air" I started young at 40.........made it to 57 and then stroked out.
My youngest son is a Master Sergeant with the State Hwy Patrol. Our good weather months he's a water patrol Trooper working the Mississippi River and a couple of large Rec. Lakes. He's rapid Water Rescue certified. Winter months he's usually in the district's office or on the highway. His wife is a 1st Chair Prosecuting Trial Attorney. Want to guess what the conversations are usually about at get togethers? LoL
Maybe you have the nose a little too high now, endangering the aft jacks?
Hi Gary, we are good!! Let out more air. Only running 30lbs of air. Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Nothing as boring as this video.
Good morning 🌞 If you prefer the travel destination videos, we do too. We are excited to start sharing those next week. We felt sharing some of the struggles we were having was important to show there is a learning curve when purchasing a new RV. Thanks for hanging in there with us. ~ Rhonda and Stan
@@OverTheHillAdventures l prefer not watch at All, and that’s l will be doing.
@@edgewood2441 what made you click on this channel in the first place? I don’t understand why you feel you need to be rude! Sorry you don’t like this channel but it’s not hard to be nice! Blessings
@@OverTheHillAdventures Because you are part of the problem. Glamorizing an industry that is filled with fraud, dishonesty and corrupt people. Too many people have been hurt/ ruined by buying these units. Why do you feel it necessary to haul around a box has big as a house over crappy roads to sit it in a dung holes. Camping should be done with ( minimum resources and effort). Pluse don’t you feel a bit bad taking income in under these pretenses. Thank you, Blessings returned