Thanks so much for the plug Ralph! I was just like u and didn't even notice the difference until it was pointed out to me, so I'm actually really glad you reached and confirmed with Code Mystics that it was just a sprite/art change. Agree that it was awesome of A1up to even release a cab with new arcade controls, so it'll only get better with all our feedback. thx again!
I saw that article as well but didn’t realize this had been a thing for a while now. I’m just trying to get ahead of it as I’m sure some will use it as a reason to complain... 😂😂😂 Thanks for the additional information bud ✊🏻
@@RetroRalph What's interesting is the car they're using in this version is the same car in the 3ds version of Outrun. That has me wondering if they're using a variation of that rom. Since AM2 did that one, it's pretty amazing but it's 3d of course. Sega did eventually get a Ferrari License and did F355 Challenge on Dreamcast and you probably remember Outrun 2 and Outrun 2006 Coast to Coast. All of this has me wondering if they'll do Afterburner? That could be cool! Sega also has a Grumman license at one point that's where Afterburner Climax comes in but was pulled down once the license expired which is an absolute shame because that game was awesome.
It doesn't bother me AT ALL. I just got mine today, and I'm loving it. Hell, even my wife, who normally doesn't like playing video games, took a few drives in it. LOVE IT!
I agree...It’s actually really fun, I was taking turns with my son... when he would get off it. Kinda cool to see him playing something other than call of Duty or Fortnite.
I remember the "prancing horse" on the rear grille would face different ways depending on which way you were turning. I'm pretty sure Sega just mirrored the car sprite to save on memory when memory was at a premium.
This change goes back to Yu Suzuki Game Works Vol 1 on the Dreamcast. The car model in that port looks to be the same as the one used in the Arcade 1up cab. That port of the Outrun is knocking on for being about 20 years old now.
Thanks for the info man, I don't think I ever came across the OG outrun on dreamcast; I will have to see if I can find that disc, thanks for the info man!
@@RetroRalph You’re welcome. I’d personally recommend getting the ISO as the original release on the DC is VERY expensive now as it came with a huge coffee table book as well as the game disc. Along with Outrun it came with the following arcade perfect super scaler games too, Power Drift, After Burner II, Hang-On & Space Harrier. So well worth tracking down.
@@RetroRalph There are 3 ways of playing the Dreamcast version. 1. Yu Suzuki DreamWorks included games. 2. Shenmue (you can play it in the arcade) 3. Outrun 2 for OG XBOX the original game is an unlockable. (Dreamcast version is included).
Was quite entertained watching your stream with Justin the other night. When you were modding your OutRun cabinet with the transducer. lol Yeah Kong is cool, been enjoying his mod streams. Subscribed!
If I was a big fan of the game I would want my Ferrari! Not something that looks like a Ferrari! Fans of Outrun are going to be upset I think. Especially people into classic cars and video games! (only fix sadly would be to take out the Arcade1up Board and put a computer with the original Roms and get the buttons and wheels, pedals to work with it)
Huge Out Run fan here, and a fan of European sports cars, especially Ferrari. I even have a full size in my garage. I could honestly care less about this. It's the gameplay that draws fans to this game. I'm not even thinking about the car when im playing. Indeed it is iconic, but not a deal breaker; at least for me. Everyone fan of the game would've known about the expired licensing going into this. It's been that way since 2010 when Sega had to start pulling games from all the major consoles eshops.
The Ferrari logo is a horse, the classic Outrun logo is a Pegasus. On the steering wheel that is. The pixels on the screen may as well be from Custer's Revenge. Sega only had the Ferrari license for Outrun 2. I imagine when the contract ran out Sega is just playing it safe, I don't think they have that 90's cashflow for court battles with Ferrari.
As a Sega arcade enthusiast and collector, I told everyone this would be the version of Outrun Arcade 1up would get when it was first leaked. Sega's license with Ferrari expired in December of 2011 which resulted in the removal of various digital Outrun releases from sources like PSN, Xbox Live and other sources. I couldn't see Sega renewing what I would believe to be a very expensive licensing agreement just to rerelease an old arcade classic.
@Retro Ralph I’m pretty sure Sega acquired the rights to the Ferrari’s for the later Outrun games Outrun 2 and Outrun 2006 Coast2Coast. I don’t mind the new logo but it reminds me of the eagle on the Albanian flag 😂. Otherwise I feel they did a great job from what I have seen.
They never got the license and the Ferrari logo was always different on the car and on the steering wheel. Sega just did it and probably thought to use a convertible testarossa to make it happen as there never was an officially released testarossa convertible. There was some protesting but eventually Sega got away with it. Funny fact that later on they got a full licensed game with all the iconic Ferrari’s in outrun 2.
Awesome info man, I have played outrun 2 but I guess I wasn’t really paying that much attention. I was more concerned about doing some killer drifting. Now I’m going to replay it and pay closer attention. Thanks for the added info man, really appreciate it!
Sega also got the Ferrari license for S.C.U.D. RACE a.k.a. Sega SUPER GT and F355 CHALLENGE (although they partnered with Acclaim to pay for the Ferrari rights for the latter in exchange for Acclaim getting the home distribution rights for the Dreamcast version).
I noticed this change when i bought the Sega Ages for 3ds a few years ago. I believe the Genesis version has the original car in the game. The Saturn version has the original unaltered car i know that for sure. Not a deal breaker i also have this game for 3ds and Switch.
I believe Sega got into some legal trouble initially with Out Run as they used the Ferrari without permission. Kinda like how things went down with Revenge of Shinobi.
@@ForeverLacey09 Yeah, Revenge of Shinobi slipped in some characters from pop culture without permission that were a big no-no. There's multiple versions of the game with various changes to that.
I mean having the original car would of been nice would of been nice, but i mean having to pay the licensing to both sega and Ferrari would of meant that it would have to move alot more units. Its the problem with doing older arcade games.
if they have to mod a arcade game to bring it back to us ,i'm good with it ....I'm praying they can bring back hang on ,super hang on and made one dirt game that would be the best ....another great video thank you sir
The switch version (and 3DS Version) is actually 60 FPS. There is an option to play in the original 30 FPS in the game though. It looks a bit smoother in your comparison, so you are probably showing the 60 FPS version.
Kind of see your point, but at the same time companies get pissed seeing another company making money off a product with their likeness without getting paid a dime for it. Think about the old school WWF video games. WWF probably DID gain some ratings from those games being out in arcades, but i can guarantee you Vince McMahon would not just let video game companies make those games, make huge money off them, and not get a dime back in licensing fees and just be happy getting free exposure. Kind of a more extreme example, but I think you can see my point.
It is also using the appeal of their product, in this case Ferrari's cars to enhance the appeal of your product. Some companies also don't like it if their product might be shown in a negative light. I recall one car company wouldn't allow their cars in a certain racing game because that game had 'realistic' damage models. A competing series had licensed the brand because they didn't included damage.
I was wondering on the status of if they got the Ferrari license or not... figures as much that they didn't but it's not a huge detriment to the experience, I have the Switch SEGA AGES version and aside from that it's an amazing conversion of the arcade racer!
These games are old so challenges arise when trying to pull this off....not a huge deal...actually almost every cabinet has something with it...to be expected.
Thank goodness I didn't buy that crap. The point of buying these products is to be replicas of the original arcade. Not to give us altered versions of the games from those arcades. I know it's not a big deal to some, but for others that want the actual correct version of the game, this is a deal breaker.
The Batman If you're referring to the software, then you're incorrect. Of course they're not selling a 1 for 1 replica. But the software should at least be the same, not altered.
They also changed the other cars in the traffic (identifiable Corvettes, BMWs, Porsche 911s, and Volkswagen Beetles) to generic cars and changed the Ferrari F40 in Turbo OutRun to a generic red sports car. I'm not 100% sure but I think the sprites in OutRunners are unchanged because while the cars are inspired by real cars, Sega made enough cosmetic changes to the cars for the original arcade game so as to not face any more legal problems.
See this is why when making a game and using likeness or copyright, Music, and other licensed IP should be made in agreement for the game and all iterations off the bat so there are no issues when making classic forms of copied games, there are also dead games because of music licenses particularly rhythm games and such which is kind of a bad business, Tony Hawk suffered from not getting remakes until recently mainly because of the music copyright challenges.
Playing the 3ds or any version I don't tend to look at the logo on the back of the car , so to me it doesn't matter, I suppose it could be modded, I'm in the UK so unless I import like I did with the Star wars cab I won't get to try it.. nice video btw 👍
I'm not really Interested in getting this cab (I can't in the UK anyway), but seriously one of the coolest things about this game for me playing this in the arcades as a kid was cruising with the girl in a Ferrari. That's what outrun was known for. While it doesn't affect gameplay, it kind of kills the whole thing for me. For me, it's kind of like if they omitted Ken from Street Fighter. You have to play with Ryu instead.
I wonder how many extra Ferraris (or at least their merchandise) were sold to folks who lived the original game. I didn't know much about cars, but knew I wanted a testarossa just because of this game. (Found out later that there wasn't a convertible version in reality).
@@d1btd3265 Almost correct. Ferrari made 1 single convertible. All others are modified Testarossas, but there was 1 single official one made. A total 1 off. Some say, it's more collectable than an Amiga 500+ with no battery damage.
I think the switch versions also 60fps, unlike the arcade. Arcade 1up not quite Outrun. If anyone knows how to change it to the arcade on the pcb please let us know.
Did no one else notice that this is what the Nintendo Switch version did as well? Really? Just me? I don't even have a switch lol. EDIT: Catching up with comments, no not just me lol :D
If you're REALLY OCD, the non-Ferrari car is actually a mild visual improvement cuz in the original, the Ferrari logo flips from facing left to right depending on which way the car is turning. Probably because rather than redrawing both sides of the turning car, they just flipped the sprite without making the logo adjustment. Also, the on the side art, the left rear-view mirror's hole isn't properly "cut out". This error was on the arcade cab art too. So there's something else you can unhealthily obsess about.
Hey thanks for letting me know switch has this game . Only 6 dollars. . Better than 600 . This game is not worth 600 for sure . Maybe Daytona or sega rally .
I'm so jealous 🤬 Because this game should been on 32X with a steering wheel and Arcade gas and breaks and gear shifter panel controler!! 😶🤣 Just kidding 🚬🤡
Thanks so much for the plug Ralph! I was just like u and didn't even notice the difference until it was pointed out to me, so I'm actually really glad you reached and confirmed with Code Mystics that it was just a sprite/art change. Agree that it was awesome of A1up to even release a cab with new arcade controls, so it'll only get better with all our feedback. thx again!
Ralph, Sega did indeed have the license for Ferrari, but it ran out. That's why Outrun 2 was taken down from the PlayStation and XBox stores.
I saw that article as well but didn’t realize this had been a thing for a while now. I’m just trying to get ahead of it as I’m sure some will use it as a reason to complain... 😂😂😂 Thanks for the additional information bud ✊🏻
@@RetroRalph What's interesting is the car they're using in this version is the same car in the 3ds version of Outrun. That has me wondering if they're using a variation of that rom. Since AM2 did that one, it's pretty amazing but it's 3d of course. Sega did eventually get a Ferrari License and did F355 Challenge on Dreamcast and you probably remember Outrun 2 and Outrun 2006 Coast to Coast. All of this has me wondering if they'll do Afterburner? That could be cool! Sega also has a Grumman license at one point that's where Afterburner Climax comes in but was pulled down once the license expired which is an absolute shame because that game was awesome.
Sega Ages on the Sega Saturn was the last conversion of Outrun that included the original Ferrari car sprite way back in 1996
It doesn't bother me AT ALL. I just got mine today, and I'm loving it. Hell, even my wife, who normally doesn't like playing video games, took a few drives in it. LOVE IT!
I agree...It’s actually really fun, I was taking turns with my son... when he would get off it. Kinda cool to see him playing something other than call of
Duty or Fortnite.
It’s so much fun. Can’t get my kids off it...I have to set a timer for them so they know they’re getting equal time.
I remember the "prancing horse" on the rear grille would face different ways depending on which way you were turning. I'm pretty sure Sega just mirrored the car sprite to save on memory when memory was at a premium.
It looks like they changed the tail lights on the car, too.
Thanks Retro Ralph for the deep dive! Enjoy your long weekend!
You too bud, nice seeing you in the comment section man. I hope all is well with you man! 🤘🏻
Got mine on Wednesday and I love it.
When your son is playing out run on Thanksgiving, I wonder if he realizes he has the 😎 dad in the neighborhood👍
This change goes back to Yu Suzuki Game Works Vol 1 on the Dreamcast. The car model in that port looks to be the same as the one used in the Arcade 1up cab. That port of the Outrun is knocking on for being about 20 years old now.
Thanks for the info man, I don't think I ever came across the OG outrun on dreamcast; I will have to see if I can find that disc, thanks for the info man!
@@RetroRalph You’re welcome. I’d personally recommend getting the ISO as the original release on the DC is VERY expensive now as it came with a huge coffee table book as well as the game disc.
Along with Outrun it came with the following arcade perfect super scaler games too, Power Drift, After Burner II, Hang-On & Space Harrier. So well worth tracking down.
Damnnnnn you weren’t kidding... it’s super expensive! I’m going to see if I can track down a CDI file and load it on the trusty GDEMU.
@@RetroRalph There are 3 ways of playing the Dreamcast version.
1. Yu Suzuki DreamWorks included games.
2. Shenmue (you can play it in the arcade)
3. Outrun 2 for OG XBOX the original game is an unlockable. (Dreamcast version is included).
Was quite entertained watching your stream with Justin the other night. When you were modding your OutRun cabinet with the transducer. lol Yeah Kong is cool, been enjoying his mod streams. Subscribed!
If I was a big fan of the game I would want my Ferrari! Not something that looks like a Ferrari! Fans of Outrun are going to be upset I think. Especially people into classic cars and video games! (only fix sadly would be to take out the Arcade1up Board and put a computer with the original Roms and get the buttons and wheels, pedals to work with it)
Huge Out Run fan here, and a fan of European sports cars, especially Ferrari. I even have a full size in my garage. I could honestly care less about this. It's the gameplay that draws fans to this game. I'm not even thinking about the car when im playing.
Indeed it is iconic, but not a deal breaker; at least for me. Everyone fan of the game would've known about the expired licensing going into this. It's been that way since 2010 when Sega had to start pulling games from all the major consoles eshops.
Actually the altered car goes all the way back to the original Shenmue II at the Pine Game Arcade on the Sega Dreamcast.
Blame Ferrari for that. Sega changed the Emblem because their copyright expired with them.
The Ferrari logo is a horse, the classic Outrun logo is a Pegasus. On the steering wheel that is. The pixels on the screen may as well be from Custer's Revenge. Sega only had the Ferrari license for Outrun 2. I imagine when the contract ran out Sega is just playing it safe, I don't think they have that 90's cashflow for court battles with Ferrari.
As a Sega arcade enthusiast and collector, I told everyone this would be the version of Outrun Arcade 1up would get when it was first leaked.
Sega's license with Ferrari expired in December of 2011 which resulted in the removal of various digital Outrun releases from sources like PSN, Xbox Live and other sources. I couldn't see Sega renewing what I would believe to be a very expensive licensing agreement just to rerelease an old arcade classic.
Interesting with this change ... 🤔
Did not even noticed it 😆, awesome video 👍
Thanks my dude!
@Retro Ralph I’m pretty sure Sega acquired the rights to the Ferrari’s for the later Outrun games Outrun 2 and Outrun 2006 Coast2Coast. I don’t mind the new logo but it reminds me of the eagle on the Albanian flag 😂. Otherwise I feel they did a great job from what I have seen.
They never got the license and the Ferrari logo was always different on the car and on the steering wheel. Sega just did it and probably thought to use a convertible testarossa to make it happen as there never was an officially released testarossa convertible. There was some protesting but eventually Sega got away with it. Funny fact that later on they got a full licensed game with all the iconic Ferrari’s in outrun 2.
Awesome info man, I have played outrun 2 but I guess I wasn’t really paying that much attention. I was more concerned about doing some killer drifting. Now I’m going to replay it and pay closer attention. Thanks for the added info man, really appreciate it!
Sega also got the Ferrari license for S.C.U.D. RACE a.k.a. Sega SUPER GT and F355 CHALLENGE (although they partnered with Acclaim to pay for the Ferrari rights for the latter in exchange for Acclaim getting the home distribution rights for the Dreamcast version).
I noticed this change when i bought the Sega Ages for 3ds a few years ago. I believe the Genesis version has the original car in the game. The Saturn version has the original unaltered car i know that for sure. Not a deal breaker i also have this game for 3ds and Switch.
I believe Sega got into some legal trouble initially with Out Run as they used the Ferrari without permission. Kinda like how things went down with Revenge of Shinobi.
They did with Outrun but never heard about Revenge of Shinobi.
@@ForeverLacey09 Yeah, Revenge of Shinobi slipped in some characters from pop culture without permission that were a big no-no. There's multiple versions of the game with various changes to that.
I mean having the original car would of been nice would of been nice, but i mean having to pay the licensing to both sega and Ferrari would of meant that it would have to move alot more units. Its the problem with doing older arcade games.
if they have to mod a arcade game to bring it back to us ,i'm good with it ....I'm praying they can bring back hang on ,super hang on and made one dirt game that would be the best ....another great video thank you sir
Thanks for watching bud, super hang on is a super fun game!!!
I wish they would make a space harrier/Afterburner machine..
Thats the Fiero logo. They went all out on the 3/4 scale of it and changed it to the Fiero, a 3/4 scale Ferrari kit car. LUL
I just picked up an original 1986 Sega outrun today😊
YES!!!! I have wanted one for a while, just always miss out. Cograts bud!
Oh the humanity!
The switch version (and 3DS Version) is actually 60 FPS. There is an option to play in the original 30 FPS in the game though. It looks a bit smoother in your comparison, so you are probably showing the 60 FPS version.
I never understood why companies would demand licensing fees. Isn't it like free advertising for them to have their car in the game?
Kind of see your point, but at the same time companies get pissed seeing another company making money off a product with their likeness without getting paid a dime for it. Think about the old school WWF video games. WWF probably DID gain some ratings from those games being out in arcades, but i can guarantee you Vince McMahon would not just let video game companies make those games, make huge money off them, and not get a dime back in licensing fees and just be happy getting free exposure. Kind of a more extreme example, but I think you can see my point.
It is also using the appeal of their product, in this case Ferrari's cars to enhance the appeal of your product.
Some companies also don't like it if their product might be shown in a negative light. I recall one car company wouldn't allow their cars in a certain racing game because that game had 'realistic' damage models. A competing series had licensed the brand because they didn't included damage.
RALPH vs FERRARI the Sequel!
I was wondering on the status of if they got the Ferrari license or not... figures as much that they didn't but it's not a huge detriment to the experience, I have the Switch SEGA AGES version and aside from that it's an amazing conversion of the arcade racer!
The Ferrari is changed in Outrun Turbo as well.
These games are old so challenges arise when trying to pull this off....not a huge deal...actually almost every cabinet has something with it...to be expected.
Thank goodness I didn't buy that crap. The point of buying these products is to be replicas of the original arcade. Not to give us altered versions of the games from those arcades. I know it's not a big deal to some, but for others that want the actual correct version of the game, this is a deal breaker.
Arcade1up is not trying to create replicas . They are offering similar budget friendly version
The Batman
If you're referring to the software, then you're incorrect. Of course they're not selling a 1 for 1 replica. But the software should at least be the same, not altered.
The difference is its a small ass cab for midgets lol and the arcade is a beast
The emulation is deff cool but man dose that cab/ seat and pedals blow lol my buddy has it I just laughed lol sorry true story
I have the upright and that thing easily weighs 400 pounds! That little thing is heavier than some of my larger cabinets.
@@ForeverLacey09 10000%
They also changed the other cars in the traffic (identifiable Corvettes, BMWs, Porsche 911s, and Volkswagen Beetles) to generic cars and changed the Ferrari F40 in Turbo OutRun to a generic red sports car. I'm not 100% sure but I think the sprites in OutRunners are unchanged because while the cars are inspired by real cars, Sega made enough cosmetic changes to the cars for the original arcade game so as to not face any more legal problems.
yeah again surprised arcade1up people are not getting on Arcades1up's case. Maybe I have to do it
See this is why when making a game and using likeness or copyright, Music, and other licensed IP should be made in agreement for the game and all iterations off the bat so there are no issues when making classic forms of copied games, there are also dead games because of music licenses particularly rhythm games and such which is kind of a bad business, Tony Hawk suffered from not getting remakes until recently mainly because of the music copyright challenges.
Playing the 3ds or any version I don't tend to look at the logo on the back of the car , so to me it doesn't matter, I suppose it could be modded, I'm in the UK so unless I import like I did with the Star wars cab I won't get to try it.. nice video btw 👍
I'm not really Interested in getting this cab (I can't in the UK anyway), but seriously one of the coolest things about this game for me playing this in the arcades as a kid was cruising with the girl in a Ferrari. That's what outrun was known for. While it doesn't affect gameplay, it kind of kills the whole thing for me.
For me, it's kind of like if they omitted Ken from Street Fighter. You have to play with Ryu instead.
I wonder how many extra Ferraris (or at least their merchandise) were sold to folks who lived the original game. I didn't know much about cars, but knew I wanted a testarossa just because of this game. (Found out later that there wasn't a convertible version in reality).
@@d1btd3265 Almost correct. Ferrari made 1 single convertible. All others are modified Testarossas, but there was 1 single official one made. A total 1 off. Some say, it's more collectable than an Amiga 500+ with no battery damage.
Aww man really wanted this cab with the original testarossa. Deal breaker for me. :(
I’m so jealous
Why? 🤷🏼♂️
@@RetroRalph quit asking these hard questions. I have no idea why or what it has to do with anything. Lol
😂😂😂😂
Nice
Could they have created a logo that was closer to the original Ferrari logo?
Not if the idea is to not get pinged for a copyright infringement. Ferrari have deep pockets to take them to court.
I think the switch versions also 60fps, unlike the arcade. Arcade 1up not quite Outrun. If anyone knows how to change it to the arcade on the pcb please let us know.
Got mine yesterday and it doesn't work. ☹️
6"3 think I'm to tall for this arcade unfortunately. Definitely getting the Marvel pinball. Do you know when it's coming?
If I said #soon would you be triggered? 😂
Did no one else notice that this is what the Nintendo Switch version did as well? Really? Just me? I don't even have a switch lol. EDIT: Catching up with comments, no not just me lol :D
I get the first comment! I checked on my CoinOps Outrun arcade and confirmed the raging pony. So myth confirmed.
If you're REALLY OCD, the non-Ferrari car is actually a mild visual improvement cuz in the original, the Ferrari logo flips from facing left to right depending on which way the car is turning. Probably because rather than redrawing both sides of the turning car, they just flipped the sprite without making the logo adjustment. Also, the on the side art, the left rear-view mirror's hole isn't properly "cut out". This error was on the arcade cab art too. So there's something else you can unhealthily obsess about.
Noooooo... I don’t need more to obsess about... 😂😂😂. Thanks for watching and for the comment bud!
the new logo also flips when you turn, are you blind or something?
Hey thanks for letting me know switch has this game . Only 6 dollars. . Better than 600 . This game is not worth 600 for sure . Maybe Daytona or sega rally .
Dreamcast version has the same car.
The Xbox version has the right logo
Enzo say's you make Ugly little cars.............
Is it only me or is the new Car rly ugly??
I'm so jealous 🤬
Because this game should been on 32X with a steering wheel and Arcade gas and breaks and gear shifter panel controler!!
😶🤣 Just kidding 🚬🤡