Hey all! As you can tell I am not a professional TH-camr and my life outside of espresso has gotten really busy (I am running for my City's Council and got a new job). There are no current plans for an install video. But I do have all the footage from the install and will probably put one together when I have time -- likely this winter. But as I said in the video, the instructions are pretty good and the community support is great! You could make this yourself 100%. I still use the Gaggiuino every morning without fail or problems!
I just got the Gaggia Classic Pro yesterday. Simply because of the mods that exist. But I didn't know about this one. I happen to find my way over from Thingiverse out of curiosity. Watched the video and then went to read the comments. Find they are all within a couple of days old. So I look at the video upload date and seems like it was predestined for me to immediately mod the new machine with this. Thanks for taking the time to make the video and demonstrating this open-source project.
Hey this is a very nicely made video, good job! The screen looks way better than the other simpler PID mods I have seen, and being able to program additionally for pressure is sick. This looks like a nice project for me someday, when I get a little extra time. Good luck with your channel, it looks like you're gonna produce some successful content! -Tom
Thanks for taking the time and making the video, looking forward to seeing more in the series going through the install process. This is definitely the mod I would be doing over the other bulky PID mods. Hopefully this gets more eyes on the project and helps it grow.
Definitely looks like an exciting and fun project. It will really be a fulfilling challenge to get this done. I would love to attempt this in the next quarter of this year.
Awesome project, @Bosque! I really admire your work, patience, and enthusiasm to make this possible. Just looking for Gaggia Classic/Pro and will try this project! Cheers.
Wow... I was somewhat underwelmed by the PID kits I was seeing... This... this here is a project worth undertaking. So excited. Thanks for this video and the rabbit hole you just showed me.
This is very exciting! After adding a DIY PID to my Classic (Not a kit) I found them very easy to work on. This excited me as I love tinkering and making stuff better. Gonna order the parts today.
Thanks for this! I got my GCP about a year and a half ago and it has been a bit frustrating dialing my shots. I will be looking into this mod. I have subscribed to see what's new.
Great video. Thanks. I am studying if this a project I should get into :-) I have a good manual italian espresso machine with a professional grinder, but also have an automatic espresso machine (doesn't make the best espresso) but is great when you are lazy.
Coming soon! I recorded my whole install. But I’m still new to TH-cam so it takes me a bit longer to edit and produce such a long and detailed video. That being said the GitHub wiki instructions are good and the part list is on there. Edit: Yeah.... sorry.
Hello! Definitely that's going on the 2023 goals list although my knowledge regarding electronics are comparable with that of a newborn. I have a question. In what temperature the steam temp is set and if are there any problems with the amount of steam the machine produces or somehow the system configures refilling the boiler while steaming?
Great video @Bosque. My question to you is most questions are about the process of the build. I have got that done. Could you give a step by step instruction on how to program the profile you have setup in the video. Much appreciate any help.
Thanks for your awesome video. I brew coffee since one year on a Gaggia with PID and I am really happy about it. I was wondering where do you have the stickers from? They look really good on the Gaggia and would go well on my Gaggia, too :-)
It's a whole machine, the Gaggia classic 30. A commemorative or special edition of the classic for it 30th year in the market. By the way, I don't know if you can get only the stickers.
Great video I’m currently thinking about getting a lelit Mara x just because it does everything so well But u got me thinking about saving a couple hundreds, does anyone can compare those two? And the second question would be in we can get a work flow video of that machine? Would love to see the heat up and steam time changing. Again thank u for getting this info out to me!
I would say that the Gaggiuino is a more feature-full machine with more potential to customize and match your espresso beans in a way to create a perfect cup. But it’s way more work to get there with installing the mod, and it can be frustrating to finally get it installed if you’re not used to projects like this. If you’re interested in tinkering and have patience for failure then Gaggiuino is better. If you want good espresso now without messing around buy a different machine.
Hey, thanks for this! I suppose it makes sense to go all in and install the weight cell too, as without it the pre-infusion is time-based, isn't it? As it doesn't track the flow and doesn't know when to ramp up the pressure?
Please please please have cleaned that steam wand 😅 triggered my OCD haha. Great video thanks!!! had I not already installed a boostbox I'd have probably jumped on this
hello bro or people, i have a question, how many coffe cups for a day? like i wanna now if this modified machine can make 50-70 cups of coffe, and if this particulary machine can´t do that, what i need for make a thing like that? thanks im from chile sudamerica.
I've always wanted to do the Gaggiuino mod. Thanks for the video. Question: it looks like the way that the mod gets pressure is by tapping into the pump-to-boiler line. How reliably accurate is that pressure since it isn't the pressure at the actual brew head? I was wondering if it would be possible to pair the Gaggiuino with the Shades of Coffee Brew Pressure adapter, which connects to the Solenoid Valve. That would both be less likely to leak and more reliable brew pressure. Wondering if anyone else has done this...
With this type of pump the pressure must be going up and down with each impulse of the pump's piston. I have often wondered how this effects the extraction, and how this can be accurately metered.
It's crazy I was literally thinking about this because I didnt want an ugly PID module but rather a touch screen. I wonder if i could port this over get a breville dual boiler hmm
@@BosqueEspresso Yeah if I understand right the programming is for the boiler to deliver a huge kick of power just as the brewing starts but nonetheless, >100°C sounds like a physically impossible actual temperature for any water anywhere in the system, because the water would no longer be liquid but instead would have turned to steam as it crosses 100°C
@@antonz7259 The idea I believe is that it won't reach that temperature, but it will be closer to 100°C by aiming beyond it (the cooling effect as water moves away will mean that if you provide enough electrical power for 100°C, it would end up below that). It's >100°C in the way power input is represented more than it is in terms of the actual temperature. It wouldn't make sense to try and account for this, however, and call it 100°C, as the difference between the aim and actual gets smaller as the group head is heated up, and the inaccuracy is reduced.
@@OutOfNamesToChoose Alright cool, having done the mod I can now answer this more fully. The temperature measurement being done is by a probe inside the aluminium boiler casing, not immersed in the water itself. The heating element is also basically embedded in the casing, hence, the temperature observed at the probe is not a direct measurement on the temperature of the water inside and can sit a fair few degrees celcius higher. However, I can see (with the transducer installed) that there is also a slight pressurisation inside the boiler during warm-up as well, hence >100C is possible.
Yes! I make 1-2 cappuccinos a day, no issues since this video. There have been a lot of updates to the Gaggiuino program since I made this video but I haven’t installed them because what I have still works well.
I am amused by the fact that most everyone including Decent Espresso, then "The Lance", as well as this Gaggiuino Video talks about how they attempt to mimic a lever profile. I have a GCP with a Mr Shades PID kit install that I enjoy. Then I added a simple relatively basic and very affordable spring lever Ponte Vecchio Export espresso machine to my coffee bar and now every day I have actual beautiful tasting spring lever espressos and /or Ristrettos dropping into my cup. There are no excuses, and no looking back by saying that I am attempting to duplicate/replicate a spring lever profile, because I'm actually achieving the real tasty deal, shot after shot on a real spring lever machine, and smiling a lot when I hear of people trying to replicate spring lever profiles on various pump driven machines. Get an affordable spring lever machine like a Ponte Vecchio Export, and you will become a lever fanatic, and definitely your taste buds will appreciate it. Cheers.
I went on the website to see the parts, but they are not shown there. Anyone has a link? I find information about the arduino, the install itself, but no hardware parts list
Before I go to far down this rabbit hole, does anyone know whether the model I have from 2015 the Gaggia 14101 Classic CANNOT be modded with this system? Thanks in advance.
Nice video. However, the American way of saying ‘soldering’ (Americans say soddering) sounds more than slightly like a sexual perversion. As someone else has mentioned; a tutorial would be very beneficial and I think would sell a lot more kits.
It's funny to me that people buy Gaggia Classic Pro in 2023 that still doesn't come with a PID. and this video says it fixes three problems, temperature, pressure and steam.. Jesus, isn't that all the basic required functionality of a decent espresso machine?!?
Hits on this project don't surface well on Google. I just stumbled upon it today during an image search of all things. Never once saw it mentioned when doing PID and controller-based searches over the past week. What did show up were hits for MeCoffee and the ITO board with Leva firmware. IMO, both of those projects fall a bit flat on the UI side. Another example of non-discovery. Searching TH-cam directly for "Gaggiuino" brings up your video in SIXTH spot. There are videos above yours that don't even contain the term "Gaggiuino" and have less views - one of them only 1k.
Someone else made a build video so check it out: th-cam.com/video/EJFadpL9aOE/w-d-xo.html
I still can’t wait to see your installation video! 😊
Hey all! As you can tell I am not a professional TH-camr and my life outside of espresso has gotten really busy (I am running for my City's Council and got a new job). There are no current plans for an install video. But I do have all the footage from the install and will probably put one together when I have time -- likely this winter. But as I said in the video, the instructions are pretty good and the community support is great! You could make this yourself 100%. I still use the Gaggiuino every morning without fail or problems!
Can't wait for the install video! Congrats on the new job!
I would vote for you
Is there any way you can tell us what election it is? I’ll vote for the opposition so you can spend more time making coffee videos😂
I won’t the election! Thanks in part to Gaggiuino caffeinating me every day!
I would love a video on how to use discord and where the install how-to lives!!♡ yes, I'm that new haha! Be well :)
basically turned a Gaggia into a Descent DE1! great stuff
I just got the Gaggia Classic Pro yesterday. Simply because of the mods that exist. But I didn't know about this one. I happen to find my way over from Thingiverse out of curiosity. Watched the video and then went to read the comments. Find they are all within a couple of days old. So I look at the video upload date and seems like it was predestined for me to immediately mod the new machine with this. Thanks for taking the time to make the video and demonstrating this open-source project.
Heck yeah!
Did you end up doing the Gaggiuino mod? I'm thinking about getting a Classic Pro and doing this mod, and would like to know if you were successful?
Hey this is a very nicely made video, good job! The screen looks way better than the other simpler PID mods I have seen, and being able to program additionally for pressure is sick. This looks like a nice project for me someday, when I get a little extra time. Good luck with your channel, it looks like you're gonna produce some successful content! -Tom
Just got my Gaggia Classic Pro a few days ago and was looking for a PID but i'm going to try the Gaggiuino project first. Thx for video!
I'm waiting on my GCP to arrive, and this is the exact level of mod that I wanted to do. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
Thanks for taking the time and making the video, looking forward to seeing more in the series going through the install process. This is definitely the mod I would be doing over the other bulky PID mods. Hopefully this gets more eyes on the project and helps it grow.
Bravo! Great work on the video. I'm in the discord, my parts are on order as of 3 weeks ago and I look forward to your install video!
Definitely looks like an exciting and fun project. It will really be a fulfilling challenge to get this done. I would love to attempt this in the next quarter of this year.
Thanks a lot, mate, just subscribed and looking forward to the installation video
Awesome project, @Bosque! I really admire your work, patience, and enthusiasm to make this possible. Just looking for Gaggia Classic/Pro and will try this project!
Cheers.
Waiting for your installation video to come live!
I’m in Europe for the next few weeks, but once I’m back I’ll try to have it finished ASAP!
Any update on this?
The shot of that shot at the end, glorious.
Wow... I was somewhat underwelmed by the PID kits I was seeing... This... this here is a project worth undertaking. So excited. Thanks for this video and the rabbit hole you just showed me.
Just finished the build, now my espresso is next level!
Nice video! Finally got all my parts in the other day 💪
This is very exciting! After adding a DIY PID to my Classic (Not a kit) I found them very easy to work on. This excited me as I love tinkering and making stuff better. Gonna order the parts today.
Great video! This project convinced me to go with the Gaggia over a couple other entry-level machines, I can't wait to get mine installed
Just bought all my parts last night, not pulled the trigger on the load cells yet but that will be super cool
I built my friend one based a lot on this video. I’m going to build myself one now, it’s so good!
GCP 30th Anniv 🙌🏼
Used to do projects with Arduino back in college, i guess its time to go back!
Great to the point video! Thanks!
Waiting for the installation video Thanks
Great video on this process, and the espresso shot looks amazing!
definitely looking at this as a potential upgrade for my gaggia
Great video, well put together. Now I have to find a machine
Thanks for this! I got my GCP about a year and a half ago and it has been a bit frustrating dialing my shots. I will be looking into this mod. I have subscribed to see what's new.
Hope to see the install videos soon!
See my pinned comment ^
Great video. Thanks. I am studying if this a project I should get into :-) I have a good manual italian espresso machine with a professional grinder, but also have an automatic espresso machine (doesn't make the best espresso) but is great when you are lazy.
The milk left on the steam wand at the end made me die inside a little.
I could watch that shot pull for daaaaaayyyysss.
Man, this is very inspiring
Thanks for the interesting video!
As an elec student, addicted to coffee, and have a GCP. time to do this
love the video! get the info out there!
Great video Bosque, thank you very much. For a sec I thought I was going to get Rick-Rolled again, lol.
Can you make step by step install videos, that would generate more installs and grow the community.
It would be awesome if you were able to upload the installation process. I purchased all the items yesterday
See my pinned comment ^
Great video man! UIUIUI!
If someone would make a tutorial for this install, I would buy the parts and start working in a second.
Coming soon! I recorded my whole install. But I’m still new to TH-cam so it takes me a bit longer to edit and produce such a long and detailed video. That being said the GitHub wiki instructions are good and the part list is on there.
Edit: Yeah.... sorry.
@@BosqueEspresso Subscribed! :)
@@BosqueEspresso Ordering the parts now, looking forward to it! Thanks!
@@BosqueEspresso Subscribed! :) looks forward the tutorial
Subscribed as well. Interested to see how it works out.
Hello! Definitely that's going on the 2023 goals list although my knowledge regarding electronics are comparable with that of a newborn.
I have a question.
In what temperature the steam temp is set and if are there any problems with the amount of steam the machine produces or somehow the system configures refilling the boiler while steaming?
Spettacolare
Great video @Bosque. My question to you is most questions are about the process of the build. I have got that done. Could you give a step by step instruction on how to program the profile you have setup in the video. Much appreciate any help.
Are you still planning on doing an install video? I am stuck between this and the PID.
See my pinned comment ^
You can do this on a cheap de'longhi ecp. Gives you a premium machine at cheap price
Thanks for your awesome video. I brew coffee since one year on a Gaggia with PID and I am really happy about it. I was wondering where do you have the stickers from? They look really good on the Gaggia and would go well on my Gaggia, too :-)
It's a whole machine, the Gaggia classic 30. A commemorative or special edition of the classic for it 30th year in the market. By the way, I don't know if you can get only the stickers.
Ah okay, good to know thank you.
We need this for BDB
Unfortunately the BDB isn’t really designed to be mod friendly like the GC and GCP.
Great video I’m currently thinking about getting a lelit Mara x just because it does everything so well
But u got me thinking about saving a couple hundreds, does anyone can compare those two?
And the second question would be in we can get a work flow video of that machine?
Would love to see the heat up and steam time changing.
Again thank u for getting this info out to me!
I would say that the Gaggiuino is a more feature-full machine with more potential to customize and match your espresso beans in a way to create a perfect cup. But it’s way more work to get there with installing the mod, and it can be frustrating to finally get it installed if you’re not used to projects like this. If you’re interested in tinkering and have patience for failure then Gaggiuino is better. If you want good espresso now without messing around buy a different machine.
@@BosqueEspresso thank u for the quick answer! I will be thinking about it. And hoping To see more of your videos!
cloth the wand for the love of god xD
wonderful vid tho
What about the optocoupler role does it activate the graph when pressing brew button
What problems did you encounter stating those or showing in video would of been helpful too
You would think that the makers of this machine would make all these improvements in advance so that buyers wouldn’t have to.
Install video? 😊
Great video! How much does full Gaggiuino kit cost?
i think that, the one person who make the video instaling this mod.............. gonna hit millions of views (i seconds! haha =p )
Out of curiosity, that cool decal you have on the machine: where is that from? Was that an additional mod you did?
Hey, thanks for this! I suppose it makes sense to go all in and install the weight cell too, as without it the pre-infusion is time-based, isn't it? As it doesn't track the flow and doesn't know when to ramp up the pressure?
Please please please have cleaned that steam wand 😅 triggered my OCD haha. Great video thanks!!! had I not already installed a boostbox I'd have probably jumped on this
Thanks man, is there any other place apart from Ali to buy the components?
Does anyone know how to change steam temp on a gaggiuino?
The display shows FLOW(g/s) and WEIGHT(g) both at 0.0. Can you pair Acaia scale?
Is it possible to get an upgrade machine?
👍
hello bro or people, i have a question, how many coffe cups for a day? like i wanna now if this modified machine can make 50-70 cups of coffe, and if this particulary machine can´t do that, what i need for make a thing like that? thanks im from chile sudamerica.
Anyone know what material the Gaggiuino enclosures are made of? PLA? ABS?
I've always wanted to do the Gaggiuino mod. Thanks for the video. Question: it looks like the way that the mod gets pressure is by tapping into the pump-to-boiler line. How reliably accurate is that pressure since it isn't the pressure at the actual brew head? I was wondering if it would be possible to pair the Gaggiuino with the Shades of Coffee Brew Pressure adapter, which connects to the Solenoid Valve. That would both be less likely to leak and more reliable brew pressure. Wondering if anyone else has done this...
With this type of pump the pressure must be going up and down with each impulse of the pump's piston. I have often wondered how this effects the extraction, and how this can be accurately metered.
It's crazy I was literally thinking about this because I didnt want an ugly PID module but rather a touch screen. I wonder if i could port this over get a breville dual boiler hmm
so this essentially removes the need for a PID and dimmer switch mod? Do you still need to add the spring for the differences in BAR?
No the stock spring is best, it does it all!
How has this held up so far? Have you had to open the machine back up to make a few tweaks or anything? Any extra maintenance steps?
UIUIUI
UIUIUIUI
UIUIUI
UIUIUI
UIUIUIUIUI
Would this work for a rancilio silvia?
will this work on Gaggia Espresso Evolution machine? Thank you.
How much did it cost?
Can it measure the weight of the shot?
Would be cool to wire it to a scale and have it automatically stop at a certain weight
They have that function now! The drip tray is redesigned with a wired in scale.
does pressure gauge carries water or air only?
Why does the temperature reading exceed 100 celcius at 4:34 ?
I think that the temp is a little higher in the start to compensate for the thermal mass of it hitting the puck for the first time.
@@BosqueEspresso Yeah if I understand right the programming is for the boiler to deliver a huge kick of power just as the brewing starts but nonetheless, >100°C sounds like a physically impossible actual temperature for any water anywhere in the system, because the water would no longer be liquid but instead would have turned to steam as it crosses 100°C
@@antonz7259 The idea I believe is that it won't reach that temperature, but it will be closer to 100°C by aiming beyond it (the cooling effect as water moves away will mean that if you provide enough electrical power for 100°C, it would end up below that). It's >100°C in the way power input is represented more than it is in terms of the actual temperature. It wouldn't make sense to try and account for this, however, and call it 100°C, as the difference between the aim and actual gets smaller as the group head is heated up, and the inaccuracy is reduced.
@@OutOfNamesToChoose Alright cool, having done the mod I can now answer this more fully. The temperature measurement being done is by a probe inside the aluminium boiler casing, not immersed in the water itself. The heating element is also basically embedded in the casing, hence, the temperature observed at the probe is not a direct measurement on the temperature of the water inside and can sit a fair few degrees celcius higher. However, I can see (with the transducer installed) that there is also a slight pressurisation inside the boiler during warm-up as well, hence >100C is possible.
Has everything been reliable for you since installation
Yes! I make 1-2 cappuccinos a day, no issues since this video. There have been a lot of updates to the Gaggiuino program since I made this video but I haven’t installed them because what I have still works well.
@@BosqueEspresso could you please do the full installation video please
I am amused by the fact that most everyone including Decent Espresso, then "The Lance", as well as this Gaggiuino Video talks about how they attempt to mimic a lever profile. I have a GCP with a Mr Shades PID kit install that I enjoy. Then I added a simple relatively basic and very affordable spring lever Ponte Vecchio Export espresso machine to my coffee bar and now every day I have actual beautiful tasting spring lever espressos and /or Ristrettos dropping into my cup. There are no excuses, and no looking back by saying that I am attempting to duplicate/replicate a spring lever profile, because I'm actually achieving the real tasty deal, shot after shot on a real spring lever machine, and smiling a lot when I hear of people trying to replicate spring lever profiles on various pump driven machines. Get an affordable spring lever machine like a Ponte Vecchio Export, and you will become a lever fanatic, and definitely your taste buds will appreciate it. Cheers.
Are you able to use a bigger lcd? Like something the size of the decent lcd
No
I went on the website to see the parts, but they are not shown there. Anyone has a link? I find information about the arduino, the install itself, but no hardware parts list
You sure you're looking properly ? It's fairly in your face [BOM]
What other projects have you attempted?
None lol
Am I seeing this correct, during your shot at 5:00 the temperature drops to about 50C (right side of the graph)?
I think you’re seeing the pressure (blue line) the red line is temp and that stays pretty constant around 97. Look at bottom of graph for numbers.
Before I go to far down this rabbit hole, does anyone know whether the model I have from 2015 the Gaggia 14101 Classic CANNOT be modded with this system? Thanks in advance.
I believe you’re GTG. But best to ask in the discord. I’m not a GC expert.
Is there anybody doing this as a paid service?
Nice video. However, the American way of saying ‘soldering’ (Americans say soddering) sounds more than slightly like a sexual perversion. As someone else has mentioned; a tutorial would be very beneficial and I think would sell a lot more kits.
Dude this is awesome. Wanna make me one 😉.
It's funny to me that people buy Gaggia Classic Pro in 2023 that still doesn't come with a PID. and this video says it fixes three problems, temperature, pressure and steam..
Jesus, isn't that all the basic required functionality of a decent espresso machine?!?
lol 12 hours. I’m sure many took few weeks
Oh man anyone one in Los Angeles I could pay $200 to do this install? I think this would be above my head.....
whatever you do, this is still gaggia classic. I bought an occasion Expobar. that costs the same. but way better than this stuff.
You're wrong.
Hits on this project don't surface well on Google. I just stumbled upon it today during an image search of all things. Never once saw it mentioned when doing PID and controller-based searches over the past week. What did show up were hits for MeCoffee and the ITO board with Leva firmware. IMO, both of those projects fall a bit flat on the UI side.
Another example of non-discovery. Searching TH-cam directly for "Gaggiuino" brings up your video in SIXTH spot. There are videos above yours that don't even contain the term "Gaggiuino" and have less views - one of them only 1k.