Have you seen that one video where the knight is only doing zornhau over and over and over again while the samurai is blocking every hit because it is the only one he does
This is actually extremely accurate broski,yeah it may not seem like it cuz in history there would be a monumental size difference between the knight and samurai,with the samurai being smaller,and any of the knights hit woulda taken him out immediately,but the samurai did do the damage he needed
That's pretty much what two armored warriors would do. Swords against armor doesent work. Throwing punches, kicks and grabbing works much better on the other hand
@@biohazard0482 utilizaban la guarda para golpear a modo de martillo y así dejar inconsciente al rival y una vez en el suelo pinchaban en una de las partes abiertas
Color. Japanese armor without lacquer will look like that. You don't expect Japanese steel to be magically red, brown, black, yellow, white, or green in color
@@toxicdermyillunary4103 i don't think you know exactly how medieval armor worked historically correct. European armor that is used in most HEMA is not even remotely historical and if it is, it is rather inspired by modern models from the 1900s, many of which unfortunately also stand on European castles for decorative purposes. The real medieval knight had very little plate rather chain and gambeson e.g. But you can hardly commit yourself there you have to go exactly to time and region. It is the same in the Japanese Middle Ages, the Marumachi Jidai was more characterized by horsemen with large haidates and the late Edo period was very peaceful, which was also reflected in the armor, where a lot was invested in pomp. But the Japanese armor very rarely had a lot of plate and when it did it was arranged as lames. It was mostly made of deerskin and wood and then finished with lacquer and silk brocade. The Japanese warriors also liked to use chains. Shields, by the way, were virtually non-existent in Japan.
Was that you? Where were you guys dueling at? And where did you source the armor if you don't mind me asking? It's impeccably clean and i love the menpō you don. Any good online places to find quality training swords like yours at a discount? Asking for a friend 😅
@@ketchup4471 Not me just another enthusiast...a broke one lol so I don't have much gear. But Medieval Collectables and Cult of Athena have good functional gear and synthetic swords for sparring at decent pricing.
Two different swords for two entirely different forms of warfare. Difficult to compare which is "better," Also, skill of the swordsman has a lot to do with it.
@@eagle162wdym. Long sword was meant for stabbing and finishing off the opponent. While the katana was made for fast slashes and cutting. Two entirely different purposes
when people compares katanas with longswords usually compares strong points of sword against weak ones on katana... but in a real fight when weight comes to reality this is what happens
@@bendythedancingdemon3544 but that weight isnt distributed same way that affects how you move your sword and katana is correctly balanced to use his single edge as cutting tool while a double edged sword with weight distributed to hilt happens what u see... slow and inefficient sword, and a lot of energy used in each thrust,
@@Funkertruppen this isn't a katana, but a tachi (hope I spelled that right) but the person using the longsword didn't even use that many longsword techniques. Not including the fact that the samurai is also wearing the wrong armor for the Japanese medieval area. Also sadly the katana can barely block a slash without chipping badly. Btw I can give a video on the katana if you want one, but overall the katana is a beautiful sword but not that good in a combat between Western countries. But you can't really compare the two, Europe and Japan had completely different types of warfare
It's the walls. Do anything in a place with grimy concrete walls and that shit will feel illegal. Giant parking garages that are concrete feel weird to me for that reason
It works if you use it for thrusting, but it is forbidden as it may be dangerous. So basically the European sword loses one of its main advantages (being able to thrust effectively)
It only works if the knight manages to hit a vulnerable point such as the armpits, eyes, neck or behind the knee, other than that, it is useless to try to use the blade
Those katana cuts are like slapping someone with a wet blanket, yet in a Hollywood movie each of them would cut straight through both plate and mail underneath and chop of an arm or something. Really hammers into you why halberds were the primary weapon
Halberds and spears were easier to produce and worked well in mixed units when gunpowder weapons showed up. Both the Samurai and the Europeans slowly adopted gunpowder to overcome armor but slashing weapons hung around for a really long time after armor stopped seeing use because they are so deadly.
I keep saying it, polearms are like the modern equivalent of a rifle whereas swords are like the modern equivalent of a pistol. One is your main weapon of war you want with you on the battlefield, but you don't want to be carrying with you to the market. The other you sure as hell don't want to be relying on in a battle, but it's what you can carry everywhere for self defense.
If it was real life, it has to be known that neither of them would have fought like this, for the armor of each was too strong for a sword to penetrate.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 longsword vs katana, you wouldn't want to halfsword at all outside of the bind (And the katana isnt made for sword binds.) Doing that would mean giving up the range advantage that the longsword has over the katana. This probably isn't made to imitate actual armored sword fighting. They're likely just wearing armor for the fun of it.
@@ClaimerofLoot6942 I did say you half-sword once it gets to close stance, you're correct that you wouldn't in open stance. This fight was close stance. Once it's close stance, range advantage doesn't matter, what matters is, the longsword is heavier and has that advantage, and given close stance is equal parts sword fighting and MMA, you take the advantage and bowl them over.
This is hilarious considering armored combat like this would pretty much always end with one combatant wrestling his opponent to the ground and delivering a coup de grace through the visor or other weakpoints. You guys are literally better off throwing away your swords and grabbing your opponent.
Agreed, this simply isn't comparable to armoured man-to-man combat, where you'd be wrestling about aiming for a bludgeoning, cracking a dude's skull through his helmet, breaking his limbs and restricting his freedom with joint locks, and attempting to pry a potentially much smaller blade through the scale/plate
Not really. That would be a stupid move in the middle of the battlefield with other combatants close at hand. Never grapple your opponent to the ground if their friends are close. This is why spears and bows are what's used in combat rather than swords. Swords are more for duels with pre agreed upon rules or as side arms for those rare occasions on the battlefield if the opponent manages to get too close past the spear wall (usually in such an event people don't have time to draw even a side arm). In that regard a longsword makes for a terrible side arm due to its weight. A Roman Gladius, a katana or bastard sword are all better options simply because they are lighter.
@@hanzohattori9576 . I suggest you take a look at Paolo Ucello's painting of the battle of San Romano. Just so you get a better idea of how swords might have been used in battle.
That doesn't necessarily needs to be so. It's possible to deliver sword attacks against an armour opponent without resorting to grappling. Even also without having to go half-sword either, although it would not be advisable.
Since all humans are anatomically the same, most martial arts are very similar. You see a lot of the same types of maneuvers/techniques used in styles all over the world and time periods.
Or the knight is dead because samurai swords were pretty sharp and they were skilled at hitting gaps in the armor. Not to mention that the samurai has more mobility. But it all comes down the skill of the swordsman.
@@jjs3890 Honestly the chance of hitting a gap in the armor in this style of fighting is nonexistant, against armored opponents you need to grapple, take people down to the ground, halfsword to get a stab past where a gap does exist. Really your shot at actually getting a kill is low until you're on the ground and a dagger comes out. Or if you're the knight you hold the sword end of the blade and slam him with the guard and pommel.
@@jjs3890 the samurai were not more mobile than knights, that's a myth that was sold by Hollywood and fantasy videogames. And I don't think you know how hard it is to hit at gaps in armor with a conventional sword grip.
historically it would have been a short fight if both had matchlocks. Also the samurai did use maces and knights did not use warhammers very often at all
I encourage the Samurai to study more kenjutsu, what I saw resembled nothing I have seen before. For armored combat I advise learning techniques from Asayama Ichiden Ryu Hyouho.
If you study AIR then you know that Seki Sensei would be the first to tell you that katas and randori (sparing) almost never look the same. Thats why after understanding the katas and working on the Kenjutsu techniques and principles, then you spar and it’s a game changer.
Against the elite fighting forces of each era. A full plate knight vs a Fully geared out Samurai....in all honesty for the first couple battles the knight would win. A katana has no hope cutting through literally a fully plated knight unless they learned the joint weaknesses. A knights longsword could cut through a samurais leather/metal combo armor. Basically the knights would tank the samurais until the samurais figured out the weaknesses to the full plate armor.
No, weak points are the same for the knight and samurai. Leather was not a main component for samurai armor and the longsword will not be able to cut through it.
@@eagle162 Agreed, samurai typically wore full metal armor, the color comes from the lacquer they used to -protect the metal from the weather. Porr samurai or ashigaru might have worn lacqured leather armor, but not a samurai with any decent amount of money.
We also need to keep in mind that the Katana wasn't always the main battle weapon for samurai. It is similar to an arming sword of a knight. Samurai usually used a Odachi (essentially heavier, two handed katana) or a Kanabo (Japanese warhammer/mace). Katana were mostly used against unarmored/lightly armored targets, while the others were more suited to more armored targets.
Neither of these are American culture but sometimes I think America respects other cultures more than the people from where these respected armour comes from, I've never once seen people do something like this in the UK and I feel like it'd be similar in France or Germany, Europe let its past be in the past, not so sure about Japan - its nice to see America embrace things like this, its cool.
The honest truth is, that it doesn’t matter what kind of match up of different types of warriors fight each other.. the more disciplined, more skilled, & more experienced master is the one who will always win. No matter the match up. Whoever is the better master of their craft is who will win
The katana is the superior blade for slashing but the longsword is superior in thrusts and parries(edge on 2 sides) and defensive counters(cross guard strikes) and grants more options in techniques(halfswording being the big one that comes to mind” these are fantasy duals though. I dont wish death on any individual but for historical reference, its a shame. These two elite warriors never hade a major conflict that would cause their blades to meet on a battlefield.
I'm not a swordsman or kento guy, but I have a question: At 0:20 there was a moment when the blow of a long sword passed through the lower floor and was quite slow. At this moment, it was possible to lower the katana and thereby not only parry the blow, but also deliver a piercing lunge at the knight. I apologize for the skill of Google translator
I would like to see a period sword vs period sword. To see which held up better. There are anecdotes of Japanese swords cutting Portuguese musket barrels.
As a Kenjutsu/ Iaijutsu instructor and HEMA (messers & long swords) practitioner, I can tell you that no Japanese sword will cut through a musket barrel. They can get sharp, but never that sharp. And there are many types of katana, some are devastating at thrusting, some are not so much.
@@jjs3890 Thanks for the response. What if the barrels were of low quality Iron (maybe even cast). At the same period the Spanish had inferior canons (Iron). The British used Bronze alloy which gave them an edge. I understood this to be specific to Portugal who tried to make a beach head by force. The Dutch later came and even though they also had bronze alloy technology they were successful in being the first to open trade with Japan on equal terms. The Portuguese and Spanish also were renowned at this time for not standardising ammunition (lots of different bore types) which was a bad idea when in a battle especially on a ship. This might explain the close quarters elements to this theory. I know some cast iron can be very brittle (soft).
Not really sure how to feel about this. Lots of the spirit of what they meant to demonstrate feels missing. The guy in the knight armor for the most part felt like a knight with a long sword. The Katana holder looks like a knight in some Eastern gear, using mostly Kendo and longsword tech. Only a few moves felt like a katana would do but his movement was stiff, paces short and felt very hesitant
Katana user seems skilled. Never like how the katana uses differently from all other swords and sabers but i guess maybe that's the effectiveness of it.
lol people online who no nothing of historical warfare and weapons arguing about who would've won in a real historical battle that we can't witness XD XD lmao internet is funny af
I'm more than sure that, if both are armored, they would just toss their swords at each other and grab their knifes and start wrestling each other to the ground. Like wtf, Swords against armor is useless. If the Samurai and the Knight had ATLEAST use polearms, then an duell with armor would make sense. Swords are not meant for fighting armor. Swords arent used as your main weapon at all. Polearms have a decent armor penetration and range. The only thing you could do a sword that would be good in armored duelling is go grab your enemy with it.
Interestingly, there’s tons of ways to use swords against armor, and they’re generally really useful as an anti armor weapon! Almost everything has to do with the tip. For the same reason a dagger is good, you can use a sword to stab at gaps- generally this is best done when close up using half sword, but you can also do it from distance! Strikes to the interior elbow, neck and armpits especially are quite common with this usage. Aside from this, there’s also a lot of evidence of swords being used as primary weapons that comes directly from medieval art! Even if they originally had a polearm or lance that broke and they switched to the sword, it is definitely made clear that even one handed swords were, overall, acceptable as a main weapon when lacking a polearm.
Creo que la ventaja de tener una espada larga es que puedes poner distancia :^ deecho tengo entendido que usar la punta suele ser mejor que dar tajos. La katana es lo contrario funciona mejor cortando que con estocadas Debido a la curvatura (si hay algún experto me lo dice :v)
More if a question of who is doing it, versus what they're using. Neither of those swords are doing much, so I'm betting a judo-type throw would be coming from that samurai.
The katanas were a rubbish weapon compared to European weapons until the quality of their metal and their forging were not up to par... in a clash of swords the katana breaks
In the end it all depends on the person though honestly if I’m being perfectly honest I still think Samurai would beat a Knight in just sword fighting alone (no armor) just skill against skill and not because I’m one of those who think the Katana will solve every problem but rather because of just technique Samurai had a lot of techniques that Knights didn’t practice maybe some of you think I’m misinformed and in some regard i probably am but be honest are there techniques 100% the percent the same?
Samurai weren’t actually the great fighters we think they are today. They where mostly skilled with a bow and arrow in a melee fight a knight would win for sure
@@Funkertruppen but like, as a martial system wouldn’t you want to find the chinks in the armor and exploit them, it’s like punching someone’s gloves in boxing
this isn't meant to be realistic at all. I think the armor is just meant to be for protection but they pretend they're not wearing it so they score points when they hit it. I guess
Ya hubo una batalla donde tercios españoles y sus aliados tlaxcaltecas pelearon contra samurai en filipinas gano el aacero toledano. La esgrima española se impusieron ❌
Footwork! If your fencing that is more of a flow and trade of attacks , but if your dueling then your follow up relies on your footwork to either close distance create distance for the conclusion. Maybe up the training to where all of your entries have a numbered set 1-12. Condense those numbers until you are able to land two to three consecutive attacks making your last a conclusive attack. The goal is to be able to take out your opponent fast so during those duels think of your time limit as multiple warriors and try to destroy them all in three hits or less until that time is gone. 🥷🏾🤙🏾
The thing is, Kenjutsu katas never look like they do when sparing. So in competitions, Kenjutsu will never look like what people think it is. Wrist and arm attacks, torso thrust before getting into the bigger cuts is the norm in sparing in a Koryu.
They are fighting like they are unarmored...badly at that even. For armored combat, what they are doing is BEYOND stupid. NOTHING they did is an actual threat while in armor.
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It might not be a hundred percent historically accurate, but I'm glad they don't senselessly whack each other over and over😂
Have you seen that one video where the knight is only doing zornhau over and over and over again while the samurai is blocking every hit because it is the only one he does
@SeruKazuma it's on this channel just look for knight vs samurai it has like 127k views
This is actually extremely accurate broski,yeah it may not seem like it cuz in history there would be a monumental size difference between the knight and samurai,with the samurai being smaller,and any of the knights hit woulda taken him out immediately,but the samurai did do the damage he needed
@@choloxsamurai3647any of the knights hits wouldn’t have taken him out immediately
@@godofdrip4889 depends on the weapon the knight use your home boy Samurai would be a one shot with a claymore
If this was historically accurate then the-
If this was historically accurate they'd both have matchlocks
Most historically accurste coment I've ever seen under a "Knights vs Samurai" Video 😂
Then it would break into a grappling contest.
Knight's armour is a bit early for matchlocks :)
@@saxo9266. And the samurai armour is not accurate either...
@@tatumergo3931indeed lol. Its probably some experimental armour they came up with today, Never seen a samurai with that kind of armour
Guy in the back with his hands together looks like he’s ready to recruit these two for a quest.😂
Hahaha now that you mention it. Definitely
My dumbass would rush in and fight like a berserker knowing I have full armor on
That's pretty much what two armored warriors would do. Swords against armor doesent work. Throwing punches, kicks and grabbing works much better on the other hand
Watching Late medieval armoured duels is like watching two tin cans try to pry or bash each other apart.
@@biohazard0482 utilizaban la guarda para golpear a modo de martillo y así dejar inconsciente al rival y una vez en el suelo pinchaban en una de las partes abiertas
You’d win.
@@ger10izq92or just use a hammer. Look at battle records, more armor, more hammer deaths
I'm by no means an expert on Japanese armour, but the samurai looks like another knight, but with a donater skin
Maybe its for security reasons.
its like one of those pay to win players in starter village
Yeah that's a samurai armour copied from European armours.
Color. Japanese armor without lacquer will look like that. You don't expect Japanese steel to be magically red, brown, black, yellow, white, or green in color
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i don't think you know exactly how medieval armor worked historically correct. European armor that is used in most HEMA is not even remotely historical and if it is, it is rather inspired by modern models from the 1900s, many of which unfortunately also stand on European castles for decorative purposes. The real medieval knight had very little plate rather chain and gambeson e.g. But you can hardly commit yourself there you have to go exactly to time and region. It is the same in the Japanese Middle Ages, the Marumachi Jidai was more characterized by horsemen with large haidates and the late Edo period was very peaceful, which was also reflected in the armor, where a lot was invested in pomp. But the Japanese armor very rarely had a lot of plate and when it did it was arranged as lames. It was mostly made of deerskin and wood and then finished with lacquer and silk brocade. The Japanese warriors also liked to use chains. Shields, by the way, were virtually non-existent in Japan.
Is nobody going to talk about how dripped out yellow knight in the back is!? 👌
I legit was thinking the same thing lol 🤟🏽🔥
Dang the samurai is quick! Good bouts guys
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Was that you? Where were you guys dueling at? And where did you source the armor if you don't mind me asking? It's impeccably clean and i love the menpō you don. Any good online places to find quality training swords like yours at a discount? Asking for a friend 😅
@@ketchup4471 Not me just another enthusiast...a broke one lol so I don't have much gear. But Medieval Collectables and Cult of Athena have good functional gear and synthetic swords for sparring at decent pricing.
🤓 Good bouts guys
He was pretty quick and based on how tired the other one was he has good stamina too.
Two different swords for two entirely different forms of warfare. Difficult to compare which is "better," Also, skill of the swordsman has a lot to do with it.
They weren't really that difference.
@@eagle162wdym. Long sword was meant for stabbing and finishing off the opponent. While the katana was made for fast slashes and cutting. Two entirely different purposes
@@maytegonzalez6410 both are for finishing off opponents dumbo
Neither were used against 15-16th century plate armor. A fool's errand.
Swords was usefull against platet armor tho
Longsword = superior versatility/guard
Katana = fluid cutting action
Anyways, good show lads
when people compares katanas with longswords usually compares strong points of sword against weak ones on katana...
but in a real fight when weight comes to reality this is what happens
@@Funkertruppen they weigh the same
@@bendythedancingdemon3544 but that weight isnt distributed same way
that affects how you move your sword and katana is correctly balanced to use his single edge as cutting tool
while a double edged sword with weight distributed to hilt happens what u see... slow and inefficient sword, and a lot of energy used in each thrust,
@@Funkertruppen this isn't a katana, but a tachi (hope I spelled that right) but the person using the longsword didn't even use that many longsword techniques. Not including the fact that the samurai is also wearing the wrong armor for the Japanese medieval area. Also sadly the katana can barely block a slash without chipping badly. Btw I can give a video on the katana if you want one, but overall the katana is a beautiful sword but not that good in a combat between Western countries. But you can't really compare the two, Europe and Japan had completely different types of warfare
@@cosmicwolf2291 not curved enough to be a tachi also both arent used commonly both handed, surely a nodachi
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Me looking in the background and thinking how underground illegal markety it looks... 0.0
It's the walls. Do anything in a place with grimy concrete walls and that shit will feel illegal. Giant parking garages that are concrete feel weird to me for that reason
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few months late@@lingricen8077
Swords don't work if the enemy use armor
It works if you use it for thrusting, but it is forbidden as it may be dangerous. So basically the European sword loses one of its main advantages (being able to thrust effectively)
It only works if the knight manages to hit a vulnerable point such as the armpits, eyes, neck or behind the knee, other than that, it is useless to try to use the blade
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Hence why the longsword is better at stabbing weak point in the armor
Ever heard of the murder stroke or half swording
Those katana cuts are like slapping someone with a wet blanket, yet in a Hollywood movie each of them would cut straight through both plate and mail underneath and chop of an arm or something. Really hammers into you why halberds were the primary weapon
Halberds and spears were easier to produce and worked well in mixed units when gunpowder weapons showed up. Both the Samurai and the Europeans slowly adopted gunpowder to overcome armor but slashing weapons hung around for a really long time after armor stopped seeing use because they are so deadly.
I keep saying it, polearms are like the modern equivalent of a rifle whereas swords are like the modern equivalent of a pistol.
One is your main weapon of war you want with you on the battlefield, but you don't want to be carrying with you to the market.
The other you sure as hell don't want to be relying on in a battle, but it's what you can carry everywhere for self defense.
Damn the comments are so chill, that's one very nice surprise 😁
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If it was real life, it has to be known that neither of them would have fought like this, for the armor of each was too strong for a sword to penetrate.
if they have armor you either half sword or just go wrestle them. no point in doing anything else with swords
Samurais have guns and bows knights have axes bows and long swords
@@dorkistantkd6233depends on when you are looking at them
Truth.
@dorkistantkd6233 Hey dingbat- The arquebus was introduced to Japan by the Portuguese in 1543.
I can’t believe neither of them roll, do they not know about i-frames? Disappointing.
For real, no parries, no ripostes, not even an attempt to fish for a backstab. Such a poor display.
They fight horribly. They fight too open, the medieval knight Is awful, It swings Wide It doesn't fight with the wrist...
Or, you know, use half swording, the technique that was commonly used with longswords once it gets to close stance fighting.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 longsword vs katana, you wouldn't want to halfsword at all outside of the bind (And the katana isnt made for sword binds.) Doing that would mean giving up the range advantage that the longsword has over the katana. This probably isn't made to imitate actual armored sword fighting. They're likely just wearing armor for the fun of it.
@@ClaimerofLoot6942 I did say you half-sword once it gets to close stance, you're correct that you wouldn't in open stance. This fight was close stance.
Once it's close stance, range advantage doesn't matter, what matters is, the longsword is heavier and has that advantage, and given close stance is equal parts sword fighting and MMA, you take the advantage and bowl them over.
It's not the sword..... it's the one who yields it.
This is hilarious considering armored combat like this would pretty much always end with one combatant wrestling his opponent to the ground and delivering a coup de grace through the visor or other weakpoints. You guys are literally better off throwing away your swords and grabbing your opponent.
If they fought for real they'd eighter use halfswording/Mordhau or take something like a mace
Agreed, this simply isn't comparable to armoured man-to-man combat, where you'd be wrestling about aiming for a bludgeoning, cracking a dude's skull through his helmet, breaking his limbs and restricting his freedom with joint locks, and attempting to pry a potentially much smaller blade through the scale/plate
Not really. That would be a stupid move in the middle of the battlefield with other combatants close at hand. Never grapple your opponent to the ground if their friends are close.
This is why spears and bows are what's used in combat rather than swords. Swords are more for duels with pre agreed upon rules or as side arms for those rare occasions on the battlefield if the opponent manages to get too close past the spear wall (usually in such an event people don't have time to draw even a side arm). In that regard a longsword makes for a terrible side arm due to its weight. A Roman Gladius, a katana or bastard sword are all better options simply because they are lighter.
@@hanzohattori9576 . I suggest you take a look at Paolo Ucello's painting of the battle of San Romano. Just so you get a better idea of how swords might have been used in battle.
That doesn't necessarily needs to be so. It's possible to deliver sword attacks against an armour opponent without resorting to grappling. Even also without having to go half-sword either, although it would not be advisable.
I personally prefer the long sword over the katana
Since all humans are anatomically the same, most martial arts are very similar. You see a lot of the same types of maneuvers/techniques used in styles all over the world and time periods.
At the end the knight let go of the sword and started boxing by blocking the punches lol 😂😂😂
Remarkably similar, they both go for quick head, strikes, and sweeping blows to the stomach
That's gotta be the longest katana in history.
Before this man sees a proper nodachi or washing pole.
if blade was sharpend, good luck samuri, ya need it cuz ya dead
Or the knight is dead because samurai swords were pretty sharp and they were skilled at hitting gaps in the armor. Not to mention that the samurai has more mobility. But it all comes down the skill of the swordsman.
@@jjs3890 Honestly the chance of hitting a gap in the armor in this style of fighting is nonexistant, against armored opponents you need to grapple, take people down to the ground, halfsword to get a stab past where a gap does exist. Really your shot at actually getting a kill is low until you're on the ground and a dagger comes out.
Or if you're the knight you hold the sword end of the blade and slam him with the guard and pommel.
@@jjs3890 the samurai were not more mobile than knights, that's a myth that was sold by Hollywood and fantasy videogames. And I don't think you know how hard it is to hit at gaps in armor with a conventional sword grip.
The longsword guy does not use thrust attacks, they are better with a longsword due to the reach advantage and the shape of the blade
I want to participate in this club
I'm sure an A-10 Warthog would win against both of them.
BRO! LOL
This would have been a short fight had the knight a hammer.
The fight would end in seconds if they both had a crushing weapon (Kanabo, Morningstar ect)
historically it would have been a short fight if both had matchlocks. Also the samurai did use maces and knights did not use warhammers very often at all
actually, knights primary weapons when not on their horses were poleaxes, war hammers, and maces@@theamorphousflatsch2699
@@theamorphousflatsch2699 correct, instead they used polearms
Or of the samurai had a Ketsubo.
I encourage the Samurai to study more kenjutsu, what I saw resembled nothing I have seen before. For armored combat I advise learning techniques from Asayama Ichiden Ryu Hyouho.
Useless against steel plate.
@@wehrewulf yes but a full steelplate armor was also used a few hundred years after the design of his sword.
If you study AIR then you know that Seki Sensei would be the first to tell you that katas and randori (sparing) almost never look the same. Thats why after understanding the katas and working on the Kenjutsu techniques and principles, then you spar and it’s a game changer.
This is a cool fight but also very modernized so no one can get hurt. If this actually happened in history the samurai would be in peices
If this happened in history, it's going to be a mounted infantry vs ranged cavalry battle.
guessing that grappling was against the rules here?
Not necessarily, just not directly rewarded by the rules either
Thats what i thought
If aliens saw this they be so fucking confused 😂
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cutting is not that important with armor.
Against the elite fighting forces of each era. A full plate knight vs a Fully geared out Samurai....in all honesty for the first couple battles the knight would win.
A katana has no hope cutting through literally a fully plated knight unless they learned the joint weaknesses.
A knights longsword could cut through a samurais leather/metal combo armor.
Basically the knights would tank the samurais until the samurais figured out the weaknesses to the full plate armor.
No, weak points are the same for the knight and samurai.
Leather was not a main component for samurai armor and the longsword will not be able to cut through it.
@@eagle162 Agreed, samurai typically wore full metal armor, the color comes from the lacquer they used to -protect the metal from the weather. Porr samurai or ashigaru might have worn lacqured leather armor, but not a samurai with any decent amount of money.
We also need to keep in mind that the Katana wasn't always the main battle weapon for samurai. It is similar to an arming sword of a knight. Samurai usually used a Odachi (essentially heavier, two handed katana) or a Kanabo (Japanese warhammer/mace). Katana were mostly used against unarmored/lightly armored targets, while the others were more suited to more armored targets.
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This looks sick
Neither of these are American culture but sometimes I think America respects other cultures more than the people from where these respected armour comes from, I've never once seen people do something like this in the UK and I feel like it'd be similar in France or Germany, Europe let its past be in the past, not so sure about Japan - its nice to see America embrace things like this, its cool.
The honest truth is, that it doesn’t matter what kind of match up of different types of warriors fight each other.. the more disciplined, more skilled, & more experienced master is the one who will always win. No matter the match up. Whoever is the better master of their craft is who will win
Odachi - katana, grossmesser - knife.
The katana is the superior blade for slashing but the longsword is superior in thrusts and parries(edge on 2 sides) and defensive counters(cross guard strikes) and grants more options in techniques(halfswording being the big one that comes to mind” these are fantasy duals though. I dont wish death on any individual but for historical reference, its a shame. These two elite warriors never hade a major conflict that would cause their blades to meet on a battlefield.
I'm not a swordsman or kento guy, but I have a question:
At 0:20 there was a moment when the blow of a long sword passed through the lower floor and was quite slow. At this moment, it was possible to lower the katana and thereby not only parry the blow, but also deliver a piercing lunge at the knight.
I apologize for the skill of Google translator
I would like to see a period sword vs period sword. To see which held up better. There are anecdotes of Japanese swords cutting Portuguese musket barrels.
As a Kenjutsu/ Iaijutsu instructor and HEMA (messers & long swords) practitioner, I can tell you that no Japanese sword will cut through a musket barrel. They can get sharp, but never that sharp. And there are many types of katana, some are devastating at thrusting, some are not so much.
@@jjs3890 Thanks for the response. What if the barrels were of low quality Iron (maybe even cast). At the same period the Spanish had inferior canons (Iron). The British used Bronze alloy which gave them an edge. I understood this to be specific to Portugal who tried to make a beach head by force. The Dutch later came and even though they also had bronze alloy technology they were successful in being the first to open trade with Japan on equal terms. The Portuguese and Spanish also were renowned at this time for not standardising ammunition (lots of different bore types) which was a bad idea when in a battle especially on a ship. This might explain the close quarters elements to this theory. I know some cast iron can be very brittle (soft).
The Katana guy was fast AF.
Not really sure how to feel about this. Lots of the spirit of what they meant to demonstrate feels missing. The guy in the knight armor for the most part felt like a knight with a long sword. The Katana holder looks like a knight in some Eastern gear, using mostly Kendo and longsword tech. Only a few moves felt like a katana would do but his movement was stiff, paces short and felt very hesitant
Katana user seems skilled. Never like how the katana uses differently from all other swords and sabers but i guess maybe that's the effectiveness of it.
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I thought Samurai could move in silence and hang in trees.
That seems hard to do with this armor.
Against an armoured enemy you might want to hold the sword by the tip...
It's fun looking at a 15th century plate facing a 17th century samaurai on equal terms, people aren't too different.
It is spelled SAMURAI, and they never had full plate steel armor.
@@wehrewulf neither did medieval knights.
@wehrewulf lol I bet it was spelled both ways more than once in English.
knights did tho, by the very end of the middle ages@@CptBlaueWolke
@@CptBlaueWolkethey had by very end of medival age
It proves that long sword is very heavy, after wielding it for a while, the operator hand goes numb
What I imagined as a child when my grandfather told me about his past
Is that Ryan Johns as time keeper?
Sounds familiar, he refereed my boxing/toughman fight.
lol people online who no nothing of historical warfare and weapons arguing about who would've won in a real historical battle that we can't witness XD XD lmao internet is funny af
The longsword was intended to be used to thrust and perform half sword techniques! 😢
La Katana no es para estarle haciendo al espadachín.
I'm more than sure that, if both are armored, they would just toss their swords at each other and grab their knifes and start wrestling each other to the ground. Like wtf, Swords against armor is useless. If the Samurai and the Knight had ATLEAST use polearms, then an duell with armor would make sense.
Swords are not meant for fighting armor. Swords arent used as your main weapon at all. Polearms have a decent armor penetration and range. The only thing you could do a sword that would be good in armored duelling is go grab your enemy with it.
Interestingly, there’s tons of ways to use swords against armor, and they’re generally really useful as an anti armor weapon! Almost everything has to do with the tip. For the same reason a dagger is good, you can use a sword to stab at gaps- generally this is best done when close up using half sword, but you can also do it from distance! Strikes to the interior elbow, neck and armpits especially are quite common with this usage. Aside from this, there’s also a lot of evidence of swords being used as primary weapons that comes directly from medieval art! Even if they originally had a polearm or lance that broke and they switched to the sword, it is definitely made clear that even one handed swords were, overall, acceptable as a main weapon when lacking a polearm.
How long was the bout ? Something like this could go on all day long ! 😊
The Knight should use his sword as a hammer weapon.
And the winner is….No, really, who won? 🏆 🤷🏼
Great looking armor in that room , that is some dedicated cosplay right there.
Creo que la ventaja de tener una espada larga es que puedes poner distancia :^ deecho tengo entendido que usar la punta suele ser mejor que dar tajos.
La katana es lo contrario funciona mejor cortando que con estocadas Debido a la curvatura (si hay algún experto me lo dice :v)
Knight needs to bulk up. 😂 He easily got tired.
That katana looks rather long , am I crazy ?
Lol there wearing the exact era that made armour to counter those swords
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Would be better if they had blunt weapons. Swords don't work against armor.
Pretty sure out of the two of them the katana guys the only one who knows how to use his sword correctly lol
More if a question of who is doing it, versus what they're using. Neither of those swords are doing much, so I'm betting a judo-type throw would be coming from that samurai.
Здесь рыцарь - актив,
а самурай - пасив 🤷♂️
Но суть дела не меняет -
глобалисты продвинули
свою тему в массы 🏳🌈 🤧
怎麼不用流星鎚呢？直接往頭部重擊打下去🥱
What is this kind of fighting called? I’d much rather do this than the “medieval mma with swords”
Didn't dudes in heavy armour have a polearm as their primary weapon and a sword as a backup weapon or justvas a status symbol
Believe it or not this battle features weapons of war or assault weapons
They're fencing with long swords.. footwork is almost linear .. like in fencing..
These guys have an awesome thing going, but yeah, they are a bit slower and less reactive, especially with those helmets on.
No they suck, especially the medieval knight
The katanas were a rubbish weapon compared to European weapons until the quality of their metal and their forging were not up to par... in a clash of swords the katana breaks
Right now I want to know what sport that is.
Damn the knight is aggressive 😂
But samurai wins
The guy in the corner ruins the emersion...😅
In the end it all depends on the person though honestly if I’m being perfectly honest I still think Samurai would beat a Knight in just sword fighting alone (no armor) just skill against skill and not because I’m one of those who think the Katana will solve every problem but rather because of just technique Samurai had a lot of techniques that Knights didn’t practice maybe some of you think I’m misinformed and in some regard i probably am but be honest are there techniques 100% the percent the same?
The Knight would most likely win even without armor they have better Steal the Katana would most likely shatter after a few seconds
Samurai weren’t actually the great fighters we think they are today. They where mostly skilled with a bow and arrow in a melee fight a knight would win for sure
What’s the point of just bashing each other’s armor?
counting hits as scoring base?
@@Funkertruppen but like, as a martial system wouldn’t you want to find the chinks in the armor and exploit them, it’s like punching someone’s gloves in boxing
@@NuggetsForBrains5 thats because u are seeing this as martial system looking the competitive part instead of hobby...
this isn't meant to be realistic at all. I think the armor is just meant to be for protection but they pretend they're not wearing it so they score points when they hit it. I guess
@@Funkertruppen this is a safe tournament, they fight for scores not for knock out.
Strength and resistance = knight
Techniques and speed = samurai
Techniques = debateble
Techniques = adapted to one's culture, technology, style of warfare
Speed depends on the armor type. Knights can be just as fast or faster then Samurai
This is not samurai. He has no honor or skill. european armor.
Ya hubo una batalla donde tercios españoles y sus aliados tlaxcaltecas pelearon contra samurai en filipinas gano el aacero toledano. La esgrima española se impusieron ❌
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lol dude with samurai armor has never trained kendo in his life
Footwork! If your fencing that is more of a flow and trade of attacks , but if your dueling then your follow up relies on your footwork to either close distance create distance for the conclusion. Maybe up the training to where all of your entries have a numbered set 1-12. Condense those numbers until you are able to land two to three consecutive attacks making your last a conclusive attack. The goal is to be able to take out your opponent fast so during those duels think of your time limit as multiple warriors and try to destroy them all in three hits or less until that time is gone.
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Si está situación fuera real creo que tiraria la espada o la katana y buscaría una buena roca
Get hem!
Y’know I’d LOVE to see someone wearing jidai bogu, using a katana that ACTUALLY uses kenjutsu in some shape or form.
The thing is, Kenjutsu katas never look like they do when sparing. So in competitions, Kenjutsu will never look like what people think it is. Wrist and arm attacks, torso thrust before getting into the bigger cuts is the norm in sparing in a Koryu.
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Samurai for the win
Autant utiliser l'épée en demi-garde et bourriner. Il ne craint absolument rien face au katana.
sport/activity name?
wowwwwwww 😗
unfair fight... fullplate vs samurai's armour.... of course katana guy can disarm the kinght easily
Bro there is a dude with a gold armour but. Damn that samurai is fast
"THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL THERE WILL BE BLOOD-SHED ! MAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD WHERE ONLY ONE-LEFT"
Imagine if they fighting against real swords man so what gonna happen 💀💀💀
La persona que usaba la katana no era un gran espadachín
They are fighting like they are unarmored...badly at that even. For armored combat, what they are doing is BEYOND stupid. NOTHING they did is an actual threat while in armor.