You can still tell when its shot on iphone but its getting so good. It just can't beat the physics of light moving through glass and onto a sensor five times bigger. But the convenience is amazing. For youtubers it's a no-brainer. I'd love to make it my next phone, but the storage cost of shooting LOG, even with the black magic app you mentioned, are still going to push that price up.
Sata or m.2 SSDs with a 10G USB carrier are *the cheapest* flash storage option there is. And the iPhone 15 is compatible with that, so I don't know what you mean.
@Veriflon88 carrying around an external SSD is not convenient for capturing quick moments. It makes sense in a professional environment, or to dump footage after the fact, about for the casual user who just wants to record quick video of their kids or whatever in the best quality an external SSD is not appropriate. They're just going to have to pony up for more storage. Edit: Almost 3gb of data is used for every minute of Apple's ProRes on iphone, so a base Iphone Pro with 128 gb could store maybe 30 minutes of footage, with OS and apps considered. That's like travelling back in time to the days of VHS-Compact tapes. Even the 1TB model would only let you shoot for 4 or 5 hours before filling the drive, and that's a £500 premium on top of the already £1000 phone. The HEVC of the blackmagic app would increase recording times by 10x, so that's suitable for every day users, but its less friendly for normal every day users. For enthusiasts its great, all the control you could want, but its clunky.
7:17 I’d love to hear your perspective about that. I have a somewhat good idea of what the general sentiment about external lenses is, but I still think it would be an interesting topic to explore.
7:24 that actually looks pretty nice. DoF is about the only thing holding me back from just going full on iPhone these days (and that low light issue or no tilt screen) but other than that...just super impressed with the video it can handle with LOG. If they could find a way to get more bokeh in the camera tho (not software) for creative shots I'd be completely sold. Or they could just release a Leica Q3 like iPhone, just for shooting photo/video with a bigger lens/sensor but slides in your pocket even easier than a Leica or Fuji point and shoot:)
Purely Optical Background & Foreground Bokeh Can be Easily Generated on i-Phone without Aide of Any Digital Tweak like Portrait Mode and/or Cinematic Mode by Using ７７ mm or １２０ mm Telephoto Lens If Only YA've Got Decent Skill & Knowledge about Camera & Lens ❗️
Great video showing the advantages of LOG. It would be helpful if you did a further breakdown into your colour grading process to really show the flexability. I noticed a lot of the shots in this, whilst gorgeous, seemed to have some diffusion/halation applied. It'd be nice to see how the clean footage looks when using a less filmic look.
Thanks for the feedback! I am planning a color-grading video for the future so I'll likely cover it in that video. Only the intro has film grain the rest of the video is clean, with no post-halation or diffusion was added. What you probably see is just the sun reflecting off the water in certain shots the way it came out also surprised me.
Totally agree on what you said about the accessability: Apple should make filming in ProRes Log as easy as just applying another filter in your video app.
Damn, it's crazy how your video just got recommended to me in the algorithm. I wasn't even searching for iPhone videos anymore after buying one already but you were one of my favorites to from LTT. I haven't watched any new vids since LTT moved into the warehouse but I Liked and Subbed!
_8:12__ I love this topic. This makes so much sense, especially for Directors, who does not want to attract too much attention. This phone would be a big savings for Director when it comes to budgeting._
If only there was a mobile "compact" camera with 4k/60 (or 120), built-in ND, 1" sensor and fast 24 to 50 zoom (or separate sensor like the iPhone), with log + lut preview built in... Sony stopped at RX100vii, a viii could have been this...
Hi Brandon, this is a very well made and informative video. Considering that you mentioned the accessibility of LOG to people trying to create an archive of important videos and can be treated as a gateway to shooting higher quality videos, what settings are important/configuration in black magic would you recommend for the average user to default to when quickly capturing a candid moment in normal lighting? Also, what would be important to modify to that configuration for higher/lower light levels?
This doesn't apply to all LOG profiles but in the case of the iPhone keep your ISO low, auto white balance when necessary unless you have time to do it manually, and your shutter angle (180 or 1/48) as close to double your frame rate as possible. An ND filter may be a good accessory to pick up to help keep your exposure consistent gives you another layer of control besides ISO and Shutter.
This is nuts. The difference between the default footage is crazy - looks amazing! Totally see this boosting the quality of run & gun work - if people can just bake the rec709 lut on the phone and reconvert to a smaller file size... Would be convenient if it's all going back to h.264/5 at the end of the day anyway. I suppose the one downside of thinking this could be good for run/gun would be that it's a lot of post production work to get the grade just right. I just wish there was a "less aggressive" post-processsing option that sat in between log and default video. Please correct me if I'm mistaken on the way it works, curious what you other folks think would be the best case scenario! I really wish I had a camera that I could play with grading without breaking the footage. This really is a game changer and I hope Android manuf. can take a stab at mobile filmmaking...
Is it better to export footage from the Black Magic camera app with a LUT baked into the footage or do you ONLY use a LUT to view what the Log footage would look like? Does it make a difference?
I'd only ever recommend baking in a LUT within the app if you planned on uploading/using the clip immediately. It's otherwise only a tool for accessing the look and exposure.
why should we shoot log vs whatever the normal iPhone video is? Is it to colourgrade/put luts on better? Can we find a way to shoot log on iPhone 13? Via a app I guess?
This is a really helpful video Brandon, thank you. I understand using blackmagic for HEVC Log is beneficial for file size, but I’d like to see you explain what I’m actually sacrificing by not using ProRes Log?
Dynamic range, and you are at the whim of Apples processing. So added sharpness and exposure choices that you can't undo or change much after the fact.
_I would only advise that you explain to people how to put or remind people who are watching these videos to see the example of the new iPhone to put their video in 1080p or higher because TH-cam automatically compresses videos to 720 P or 480 P_
is the 15 pro still worth getting, do you love it or is it a skip. its because rogers is offering free airpods 2 with the 15 pro max I'm wondering if is would go for that since my birthday is tomorrow it would be a nice treat or just wait for the 16 pro? much love from Fleetwood bc!
@@brandonylee I listened to your advice to wait upgrading my 12 pro max and see what the iPhone 16 pro has to offer 😮 Now I have my 12 pro max and I feel Ike I don’t need 4k120 and the studio mics I already use a rode mic 😅 My issue is that now I want to upgrade to the 15 pro max because it’s on sale with free AirPods Pro 2 but then I feel like going with the 16 pro because I already waited so long so it’s a sunken cost fallacy 😂 I don’t know what to do 😢❤ please help Save money or not 😊
_Recording in ProRes still really good because I have 70% control over the images colors and contrast In comparison to the standard, where I only had 14% control, but the rest of the image was burnt in specifically from the iPhone But with the iPhone 15 Pro we get 92.7% control over the image. Unfortunately it’s not true RAW recording which is owned and patented by RED a battle Apple lost in court for, but I’m still recording and getting pure details instead of digital sharpening, but a creamy rich look_
Xiaomi 13t pro (and maybe other xiaomi phones) can also record in LOG. Would be nice if you can get a hand on this phone and make a comparison with the Iphone
_TANGERINE_ _Director: Sean Baker_ _2015_ _Recorded on the iPhone 5s_ _CLAIRE'S CAMERA_ _Director: Hong Sang-soo_ _2017_ _Recorded on the iPhone 6_ _THE FLORIDA PROJECT_ _Director: Sean Baker_ _2017_ _Recorded on the iPhone 6s_ _UNSANE_ _Director: Steven Soderbergh_ _2018_ _Recorded on the iPhone 7_ _MID90s_ _Director: Jonah Hill_ _2018_ _Recorded on the iPhone 7_ _SNOW STEAM IRON_ _Director: Zack Snyder_ _2017_ _Recorded on the iPhone 7 Plus_ _HIGH FLYING BIRD_ _Director: Steven Soderbergh_ _2019_ _Recorded on the iPhone 8_ _Lady Gaga stupid love_ _Recorded on the iPhone 11 Pro Max_
I've been shooting log (or at least HLG) on my Samsung galaxy S10 for the past while and all the benefits you mentioned are there on Android too. It also lacks the downside of needing grading since there's an option to auto correct it to non HLG when you share through the phone. When everyone is praising Apple for Log and prores availability, they shouldn't forget that it was present on the android side ages ago.
Android does not have true log, the log you experienced in the Samsung is the same log iphone had with Filmic Pro, which is a fake log that doesn't access the sensor data but is created from already processed video. So no, Android phones have not had true Log for years, in fact they still do not have true log.
If you plan on shooting apple log outside often I'd recommend one yes. It is not strictly required but your motion blur will be more akin to film and your exposure will be easier to control.
Is it possible to do the same or is there something equivalent in the android world? Would love for you to explore that if possible and even compare it.
no, you can do fake log which does not access true sensor data, it is a log created over the already processed footage, you can get it w apps and different phones etc.
I really expected the dbrand link to be /myoldbossisshort Also, I'm going to be so pissed then I finally visit Vancouver and it doesn't look like your videos.
Apple log is amazing! They do it right compared to others.
The comparison between standard video and LOG on your face is mind blowing! I love the content Brandon, keep 'em coming! :D
You can still tell when its shot on iphone but its getting so good. It just can't beat the physics of light moving through glass and onto a sensor five times bigger. But the convenience is amazing. For youtubers it's a no-brainer. I'd love to make it my next phone, but the storage cost of shooting LOG, even with the black magic app you mentioned, are still going to push that price up.
Android can get rid of that smartphone feeling a bit more
I currently have an S23 ultra, the camera is very good, but its still noticeably a smartphone cameras. @@techtt6213
@@techtt6213 there's no Android phone that produces better video output
Sata or m.2 SSDs with a 10G USB carrier are *the cheapest* flash storage option there is. And the iPhone 15 is compatible with that, so I don't know what you mean.
@Veriflon88 carrying around an external SSD is not convenient for capturing quick moments. It makes sense in a professional environment, or to dump footage after the fact, about for the casual user who just wants to record quick video of their kids or whatever in the best quality an external SSD is not appropriate. They're just going to have to pony up for more storage.
Edit: Almost 3gb of data is used for every minute of Apple's ProRes on iphone, so a base Iphone Pro with 128 gb could store maybe 30 minutes of footage, with OS and apps considered. That's like travelling back in time to the days of VHS-Compact tapes.
Even the 1TB model would only let you shoot for 4 or 5 hours before filling the drive, and that's a £500 premium on top of the already £1000 phone.
The HEVC of the blackmagic app would increase recording times by 10x, so that's suitable for every day users, but its less friendly for normal every day users. For enthusiasts its great, all the control you could want, but its clunky.
That dbrand ad was done beautifully ❤
man i've been missing your phone & camera reviews on short circuit so much!
thanks for this!
I've been missing the awesome-looking glam shots for PC builds :(
Great video Brandon! And also... thanks for making a bearable sponsor spot!
_4:19__ I truly love this case, do you think you could do more videos like this because it’s very encouraging_
7:17 I’d love to hear your perspective about that. I have a somewhat good idea of what the general sentiment about external lenses is, but I still think it would be an interesting topic to explore.
loved that dbrand ad, hungry for their case:)
7:24 that actually looks pretty nice. DoF is about the only thing holding me back from just going full on iPhone these days (and that low light issue or no tilt screen) but other than that...just super impressed with the video it can handle with LOG. If they could find a way to get more bokeh in the camera tho (not software) for creative shots I'd be completely sold. Or they could just release a Leica Q3 like iPhone, just for shooting photo/video with a bigger lens/sensor but slides in your pocket even easier than a Leica or Fuji point and shoot:)
Purely Optical Background & Foreground Bokeh Can be Easily Generated on i-Phone without Aide of Any Digital Tweak like Portrait Mode and/or Cinematic Mode by Using ７７ mm or １２０ mm Telephoto Lens If Only YA've Got Decent Skill & Knowledge about Camera & Lens ❗️
Thanks, Brandon Tips
Brandon’s camera tips
Brandon Lens Tips
Great video showing the advantages of LOG. It would be helpful if you did a further breakdown into your colour grading process to really show the flexability. I noticed a lot of the shots in this, whilst gorgeous, seemed to have some diffusion/halation applied. It'd be nice to see how the clean footage looks when using a less filmic look.
Thanks for the feedback! I am planning a color-grading video for the future so I'll likely cover it in that video. Only the intro has film grain the rest of the video is clean, with no post-halation or diffusion was added. What you probably see is just the sun reflecting off the water in certain shots the way it came out also surprised me.
Great shots. I love my 15 Pro.
8:44 “This is a pretty strong case to consider”, I see what you did there
Totally agree on what you said about the accessability: Apple should make filming in ProRes Log as easy as just applying another filter in your video app.
Damn, it's crazy how your video just got recommended to me in the algorithm. I wasn't even searching for iPhone videos anymore after buying one already but you were one of my favorites to from LTT. I haven't watched any new vids since LTT moved into the warehouse but I Liked and Subbed!
some of the best footage I've seen on the iphone 15...great piece! really enjoyed it
I've never subscribed to a channel this fast in my whole life, this is amazing !!!
_8:12__ I love this topic. This makes so much sense, especially for Directors, who does not want to attract too much attention. This phone would be a big savings for Director when it comes to budgeting._
If only there was a mobile "compact" camera with 4k/60 (or 120), built-in ND, 1" sensor and fast 24 to 50 zoom (or separate sensor like the iPhone), with log + lut preview built in... Sony stopped at RX100vii, a viii could have been this...
Best video I’ve ever seen please produce more content Brandon y Lee
Hey Brandon, the dbrand link isn't very....linky!!
Thank you for letting me know! It's fixed now.
Hi Brandon, this is a very well made and informative video. Considering that you mentioned the accessibility of LOG to people trying to create an archive of important videos and can be treated as a gateway to shooting higher quality videos, what settings are important/configuration in black magic would you recommend for the average user to default to when quickly capturing a candid moment in normal lighting?
Also, what would be important to modify to that configuration for higher/lower light levels?
This doesn't apply to all LOG profiles but in the case of the iPhone keep your ISO low, auto white balance when necessary unless you have time to do it manually, and your shutter angle (180 or 1/48) as close to double your frame rate as possible.
An ND filter may be a good accessory to pick up to help keep your exposure consistent gives you another layer of control besides ISO and Shutter.
thank you king for this LUT and video
This is nuts. The difference between the default footage is crazy - looks amazing!
Totally see this boosting the quality of run & gun work - if people can just bake the rec709 lut on the phone and reconvert to a smaller file size... Would be convenient if it's all going back to h.264/5 at the end of the day anyway.
I suppose the one downside of thinking this could be good for run/gun would be that it's a lot of post production work to get the grade just right. I just wish there was a "less aggressive" post-processsing option that sat in between log and default video.
Please correct me if I'm mistaken on the way it works, curious what you other folks think would be the best case scenario! I really wish I had a camera that I could play with grading without breaking the footage. This really is a game changer and I hope Android manuf. can take a stab at mobile filmmaking...
You should make a video talking more about the Black Magic Camera app! I downloaded just now and looks awesome
Insane quality
This video deserves more views
Great stuff dude! Ad spot was killer as well.
Hi Brandon thank you for this. Some tips on shooting with this would help. As well. Especially proper photos
Wow what an amazing video, unbelievable insight as only Brandon could give
Could you confirm what iPhone 15 Pro you shot this on - does the 128GB version shoot LOG? thanks
Is it better to export footage from the Black Magic camera app with a LUT baked into the footage or do you ONLY use a LUT to view what the Log footage would look like?
Does it make a difference?
I'd only ever recommend baking in a LUT within the app if you planned on uploading/using the clip immediately. It's otherwise only a tool for accessing the look and exposure.
why should we shoot log vs whatever the normal iPhone video is?
Is it to colourgrade/put luts on better?
Can we find a way to shoot log on iPhone 13? Via a app I guess?
useful tips Thanks.
When you shoot with Apple Log, do you still have access to features like action mode that stabilize footage? I’m on a 12pro & curious about that.
Great video. Thank you Brandon.
Wondering how this will look when ran through Topaz Video Ai
Great video Brandon! What monitor do you use BTW, the ASUS that we see in the background
wich better iPhone 15 Pro or blackmagic with virtual productions and green chromakey ?
I really hope your channel blows up. great content Brandon :)
Thanks, Brandon.
Another great video 👏
This is a really helpful video Brandon, thank you. I understand using blackmagic for HEVC Log is beneficial for file size, but I’d like to see you explain what I’m actually sacrificing by not using ProRes Log?
Dynamic range, and you are at the whim of Apples processing. So added sharpness and exposure choices that you can't undo or change much after the fact.
Awesome video, thank you! You got yourself a new sub, looking forward to the next videos.
Great video, informative and on point 👏🏼
_I would only advise that you explain to people how to put or remind people who are watching these videos to see the example of the new iPhone to put their video in 1080p or higher because TH-cam automatically compresses videos to 720 P or 480 P_
is the 15 pro still worth getting, do you love it or is it a skip. its because rogers is offering free airpods 2 with the 15 pro max I'm wondering if is would go for that since my birthday is tomorrow it would be a nice treat or just wait for the 16 pro? much love from Fleetwood bc!
I'd wait till the 16 drops!
@@brandonylee thank you very much!
@@brandonylee I listened to your advice to wait upgrading my 12 pro max and see what the iPhone 16 pro has to offer 😮
Now I have my 12 pro max and I feel Ike I don’t need 4k120 and the studio mics I already use a rode mic 😅
My issue is that now I want to upgrade to the 15 pro max because it’s on sale with free AirPods Pro 2 but then I feel like going with the 16 pro because I already waited so long so it’s a sunken cost fallacy 😂 I don’t know what to do 😢❤ please help
Save money or not 😊
Also it’s Roger’s wireless with the 15 pro max and free AirPods Pro 2 🎉
_Recording in ProRes still really good because I have 70% control over the images colors and contrast In comparison to the standard, where I only had 14% control, but the rest of the image was burnt in specifically from the iPhone But with the iPhone 15 Pro we get 92.7% control over the image. Unfortunately it’s not true RAW recording which is owned and patented by RED a battle Apple lost in court for, but I’m still recording and getting pure details instead of digital sharpening, but a creamy rich look_
very nice conclusion thanks!
I get me in 3months the 15 pro for filming cars and is this preset good for filming cars for tiktok content
Xiaomi 13t pro (and maybe other xiaomi phones) can also record in LOG. Would be nice if you can get a hand on this phone and make a comparison with the Iphone
_TANGERINE_
_Director: Sean Baker_
_2015_
_Recorded on the iPhone 5s_
_CLAIRE'S CAMERA_
_Director: Hong Sang-soo_
_2017_
_Recorded on the iPhone 6_
_THE FLORIDA PROJECT_
_Director: Sean Baker_
_2017_
_Recorded on the iPhone 6s_
_UNSANE_
_Director: Steven Soderbergh_
_2018_
_Recorded on the iPhone 7_
_MID90s_
_Director: Jonah Hill_
_2018_
_Recorded on the iPhone 7_
_SNOW STEAM IRON_
_Director: Zack Snyder_
_2017_
_Recorded on the iPhone 7 Plus_
_HIGH FLYING BIRD_
_Director: Steven Soderbergh_
_2019_
_Recorded on the iPhone 8_
_Lady Gaga stupid love_
_Recorded on the iPhone 11 Pro Max_
I've been shooting log (or at least HLG) on my Samsung galaxy S10 for the past while and all the benefits you mentioned are there on Android too. It also lacks the downside of needing grading since there's an option to auto correct it to non HLG when you share through the phone. When everyone is praising Apple for Log and prores availability, they shouldn't forget that it was present on the android side ages ago.
Android does not have true log, the log you experienced in the Samsung is the same log iphone had with Filmic Pro, which is a fake log that doesn't access the sensor data but is created from already processed video. So no, Android phones have not had true Log for years, in fact they still do not have true log.
@@foreveraliens uhhhhh that's RAW you're describing, not log.
Is an ND filter required for this phone?
If you plan on shooting apple log outside often I'd recommend one yes. It is not strictly required but your motion blur will be more akin to film and your exposure will be easier to control.
Is it possible to do the same or is there something equivalent in the android world? Would love for you to explore that if possible and even compare it.
no, you can do fake log which does not access true sensor data, it is a log created over the already processed footage, you can get it w apps and different phones etc.
So what Is log i still dont get it
Have you tested raw video on android like Xiaomi 13 ultra? Quality is absurd.
I'm just waiting for your DJI Osmo Pocket 3 review 😂.
Photo - VIVO
Video - Iphone
Software - Samsung
Hardware - Samsung
I've got LOG on my OnePlus 11 in "Movie mode"
I'm certainly not a photographer or videographer, so bare with me, but, is shooting video in LOG kinda like taking pictures in RAW?
Not quite, it's a step below RAW in terms of the mechanics but from a quality stand point it's nearly as good a lot of the time.
Would you shoot all your videos and log?
About 60%, mainly depends how important the memory is.
And then he put the sugar in a matcha tea 😢
"PromoSM" ☀️
Before you say it: that intro looks like it's filmed on a phone.
And wouldn't you know. The noise gave it away, btw.
no longer vegan?
pretty sure that's oat milk
I was talking about the leather skins sponsorship and mr beast chocolate bars post
@@CeJayiZSicK ah, then idk
I really expected the dbrand link to be /myoldbossisshort
Also, I'm going to be so pissed then I finally visit Vancouver and it doesn't look like your videos.
The good news is it does look like his videos!!