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Hey MsMojo, I know I asked this in the last video, but I really need you guys to create a playlist of all of the top 5's, 10's, 20's and 50's between MsMojo and WatchMojo, because I'm gonna out polls for those on Facebook.
I mean, the fact they’re all dancing to an orchestra playing “Thank you next” by Ariana Grande and “I’m a bad guy” by Billie Eilish at their balls, suggests the programmes goal was not to be factually correct in the first place... 😂
Everyone is commenting about how it’s supposed to be a fictional story, which is true! But videos like this are a great way to show audiences *how* they are fictional. What’s based on fact and what is it that differs from history. With that being said I wish they included on the wrong side is how informal communication with the Queen is. She would not have been easily approached or even told to leave like she was at the Hastings ball.
Not really, videos like this encourage people to be spoonfed, to never to do any critical thinking nor research of their own volition, and consequently, to believe every claim on the Internet.
It basically a series of Historical Romance Novels by Julia Quinn. It is mostly fictional. With some truth in it. This season is based on her first book called The Duke and I.
@@claytongriffith8323 They didn’t change the story. They left some of it out. And they do that to all Books to Movies. And I understand that they did take liberties. But that is normal for Books to movies too.
Actually men that slept around were socially looked down on and excluded. Men, like women were involved in indiscretions, liaisons, affairs, etc, was allowed as long as it never became public knowledge or created a scandal. If one did, they were excluded from society The only exception was the person was extremely wealthy or held high place in society
There were well known libertines at the time. You could get away with loads of stuff with some rank and wealth. Maybe people wouldn't let their own daughters around you but you would not be excommunicated. Think Lord Byron.
@4Freedom4All probably because it wouldn't be very entertaining and instead quite horrible to show what Syphilis can do. And it WAS widespread, especially among the aristocracy. People wearing fake noses, covered in holes and blisters everywhere- the age rating for a realistic show would have to be 21+. It's a miracle people back then (and today!) weren't put off by STDs, especially the fatal ones. Proves how powerful hormones can be, no room left for brains apparently
At that time the coreset where coresets there like them, they where called stays at that time and tight lacing didn't come till 1840s or 1850s, coreset or stays where just like bras they did put support on the bust, another fact is that the stays and coresets are surprisingly comfortable and I know you gonna say there not, that's because of two things one a man who aragant, thinks they know women related things another is stays and corsets are supposed to be on top of a clothing material and if that corset was on top of skin it'll be like the bras that makes up feel very uncomfortable. That's the facts well most of stays and corsets. Another ill add back then where you see the body, there beauty standers at that time was to show the bust and have a slim look to your silhouette, later in the 1800s the Victorian era began the ideal silhouette was an hourglass body and how they achieve that look was the corrsets that wore, another ideal was showing the bust more and being a lil chubby. Again here's the facts that I know but if you like to do more research into the stays and corsets look up Bernadette banner on yt or karolina zebrowska
corsets or stays were used to hold the boobies in place, and provide a little shaping. Until the metal grommet was invented later in the century tight lacing was impossible (eyelets were hand sewn and would have ripped under that much strain). Regency ones were often made of soft leather.
The Bridgestone books started being published before gossip girl the show was on but the Bridgestone tv show and some of the later books aren’t older than gossip girl, though I don’t think either one of them copied each other sometimes shows just use similar styles and themes based on what’s popular in current times
@@Coffee-ve8ub The Gossip Girl writer literally said the Bridgerton books were inspiration...so she did kind of copy. And the fact is the Bridgerton world existed first....doesn't matter that later books came out after the Gossip Girl show. That's irrelevant to my statement.
King George had porphyria and that’s what caused his madness. The Prince of Wales did become his Regent and then finally king. His daughter died from child birth, leading the way for Victoria to be Queen at 18. The best movie to watch about George is The Madness of King George, in which all is explained. When in doubt: IMDB.
Porphyria is just a theory. Victoria was able to become queen was because out of three older sons only one had a living child. Charlotte was the daughter of George IV, his granddaughter.
@@muppetsrule1143 It's a good theory tho. And yes, when I say Prince of Wales, I do mean George IV who was Regent for his father George III. The only living child in the direct lineage had been Charlotte, which is why Vic was the next in line.
One thing they got wrong about Queen Charlotte, was her accent. Queen Charlotte was from Mecklenberg-Strelitz, in Germany, when she first came to England to marry George III, she couldn't speak a word of English. While she learned to speak English, it was always with a very thick German accent. She was 17 when she came to England, by 1813, she still spoke with a thick accent.
I didn't deny anything. She may have had Black ancestors, but she was born in Germany, & spoke with a thick accent, once she learned to speak English. By 1813, Queen Charlotte had been in England for 52yrs, but still spoke with a German accent.
@@carlapereirarodrigues I checked out portraits of her parents and one had thick lips, the other the flat nose. Add those together, and you get her. We mustn't forget that a woman in the US managed to pass off as black recently when she had no recent black ancestors.
Noble women managed their husband's estates, which was a lot of work. They didn't get paid for it but they certainly worked as a managerial position. Being in 'trade' as in service work was not common for the aristocracy because aristrocracy would get their income their property and assets. Btw, most women were commonners, so most women could works.
Being British born, I felt awkward initially watching a historical period drama not factually accurate. But as someone else pointed out, it's not meant to be accurate just entertaining which it definitely is. Ended up loving the mixed cast & realized though this may not be how it was, it was how it SHOULD have been. Rege-Jean is perfection.
Exactly but the problem is that many people get their education historical facts from films ..However the ones that will be very piss off are the BLM movement because their whole argument was all about racism and slavery even today and this show based from early 19th century despite a total opposite opposite perspective
Fictional or non-fictional: I do not understand who thought it was a good idea to wear stays/corsets directly on naked skin. This is so ridiculous. You can see that in every want-to-be-historical-movie but it is simply wrong. Stays are always worn above a chemise!
Love your videos,. One thing I think you got wrong is the fact that Simon, in the book The Duke and I, was willing to allow his dukedom to go to a distant relative, which is what would happen if there was not a male heir. The books are quite exciting to read and listen to if you’re into audiobooks. Thanks again.
Bridgerton is the coolest and prettiest tv series of Netflix in all the time the characters are cool and interesting,the story is interesting and is based in real life
Exactly! The pain & heartbreak inflicted on him by his father’s treatment believably overrides/negates any societal pressure Simon might have felt to continue his line.
Bridgerton is so amazing! Shonda Rimes is a genius! She’s truly done it again with yet another show. Shonda definitely knows what she’s doing making amazing shows like Grey’s Anatomy, Scandal, How To Get Away With Murder And Bridgerton.
@Johny Cafe's WIFE Genius? This show is so poorly written, acted and just so dumb that it can satisfy only Americans and black Americans who apparently want to be Europdzn , like Rhonda apparently.
@@kiaaurora not even close. Most of African Americans hate this sort of thing because it doesn't represent them accurately. I know African American teacher who really hates when Lolywood does this things.
@@kiaaurora I'm not sure you were racist enough in this comment. Would you like to try again with some racial slurs perhaps? I am an extremely well educated American with a doctoral degree and I thoroughly enjoyed Bridgerton as the escapist medium it was meant to be.
@@JoWithTheJD Racist? This show is racist. To everybody. It takes European piece and presents it in a way to be appealing to American audiences both in terms of sense of humor (yes, American is different than British) and racial representation, which is inappropriate. Rhonda is absolutely pathetic in her desire to inject black Americans into European period pieces and it's weird and pathetic. Oh how she must long to be European. It's also racist to black people because it seems like they have to be allowed into period pieces they don't belong in to make them feel better and it's pitiful. And racist. She could just make a movie in which black people don't have to pretend they are European. Also, Queen Charlotte in the these series looks like a drag queen, how offensive. Not a single Brit I spoke to likes this show.
Still a legitimate list on what the show got wrong or right. Setting a fictional story in a fantasy world (like Tolkien, George R.R. Martin, etc.) let’s you get away with quite a bit in fashions, demographics, etc. - as an artist and someone who writes stories based in real worlds and fantasy worlds, fantasy is sooo much easier (especially in fashion). But since “Bridgerton” does take place in the real world, in a real (and fairly recent) time period, it is interesting to see how much and where they’re trying to stay accurate. And I am loving the racially blind casting - makes things refreshing.
@@kimberlyhaines107 I read an article about Bridgerton's "racially blind" casting. The director sad, that they didn't think of it as racially blind casting because they purposefully looked for actors of colour. They changed the history in that sense, that queen Charlotte was seen as a black woman who then also gave titles to other black people (like the duke of hastings). So what i'm trying to say is, that its not really "racially blind" casting since it was intended. This is not supposed to be critical in any way and I do definitely agree with you that it is quite refreshing, I just thought it was an interesting fact when I read it and thought I might share it with you.
Yes it’s based on a ROMANCE series, it’s not supposed to be historically accurate. Why is that so hard for people ranting about ‘inaccuracies’ to understand??? Get over yourselves...
I can see why many like Bridgerton, but I can also see why people don't like it either. I honestly like it and I liked how they changed it for Netflix. But I also like the style, so I'm looking forward to more of it.
What I like about Bridgerton is even though it's period era drama, they made it into somewhat an escapism take as the main idea. Overall there may be some historical inaccuracies but it is enjoyable enough because of the diversities
Jane Austen didn't live by her pen. She published anonymously because a woman writing would be shameful and she and her sister were shuffled around based on where their brother could afford to keep them. Look in Emma, that Jane Fairfax must become a governess is considered a waste. Women who worked did so mostly because they had to to survive, not because they were strong independent women There was no sexual revolution of the 17th Century. The rich were always fucking about because they could afford to get away with it. it was the rise of the middle classes and middle class values that changed things.
@@FirebreathingVegan1 The early 1800s is the 19th century. The 1900s were the 20th century. The 2000s are the 21st century The video refers to some sort of sexual revolution pre dating this era that led to the moral tightness of the Victorian era which is nonsense.
@@FirebreathingVegan1 the 1800s is the 19th century. Just as the 1900s were the 20th century and the 2000s are the 21st century. This is because the years from 1-99 were the 1st century. Then the 100s were the 2nd century. Got it now?
Just because it's fiction doesn't mean everything is pure fantasy. There are different levels of accuracy in fiction. You can have a made-up story but the era portrayed can still be accurate more or less. There can be elements of reality in fiction so it's interesting to point out what's accurate and what's not.
I love this video because it lets us know the many ways we still haven't changed. Men still have the same ideas when it comes to women's sexual count, marriage, and their role in society. I think women are changing this narrative though, and is why we experience so much pushback.
@@quirk65 I read the book first so I could compare. In some places the book was better and in some the Netflix series was. I need to read the rest of the books in the series so I can see if some of the Netflix additions were actually drawn from later books in the series.
I do not even remember queen Charlotte from the book. The only thing i know about this historical character, she was promoting the wide use of apples in English cuisine and that "charlotte' apple cake was named after her.
No, women weren’t doing that well generally in old times. Those who earned their earning were a very rare few. Saying that ‘women were doing just fine’ is sort of an insult to those women who fought hard for the equality in the history.
No, most women were working and earning. Women worked from coal mine and to dress shops, but they worked for far lower pay than men and often fired from job to make room for men. Also, after marriage women's earning would belong to their husband, and they would loose everything. This was definitely grim for women, and life sucks. Its not insult to the women who fought for equality to state these facts.
To your thoughts about Number 9, that could be possiable why? the duchess of Devonshire went through a lot of difficulty to have a son which her husband so badly wanted, they son never married none had children of his own. Now maybe the reason why he never married none have kids of his own after learning how badly his father had treated his mother that he didn't want to put a women through the same thing.
Downton’s perspective on the Season for Mary was a bit better; obviously, getting your match the first time was the ideal- but you did have _some_ time before you were considered ’on the shelf’....
I think you were "on the shelf" after like 23-25 years old. And most ladies came out at 16-18 years old. Look at the Bennet's in Jane Austen. So there was time in between. But marrying young was still considered to be desirable.
@@blauespony1013 No, in Regency era the average marriage age for women fell between 22-26. Marrying between 23-25 would be perfectly normal, late but normal. Its around 27-29 where women would be considered "on the shelf." Women would typically come out between 17-19 as we see in both book and show.
@@shintiariva6012 I said they were on the shelf after 23-25 (which means from 26 onwards). So I don't think we disagree. It depended a bit on social class as well and on marriage expectations. Lydia is out and she is not 16. That seems uncommon, but more because her elder sisters are not yet married.
I don’t mind much the accuracy here since the show it’s based on fiction but I’m confused about the costumes? Why the debutants dress like in Pride and Prejudice and gowns are a little more loose while the Queen and her ladies in waiting dress like Marie Antoinette or like Glenn Close in Dangerous Liaisons and Keira Knightly in the film the duchess which is dress style in the regency era ? Like the debutants or like the Queen and her ladies in waiting.
There's a movie trope that older ladies dressed in the fashions of their youth. That was usually not true. Taking Bridgerton as an example, Queen Charlotte was actually much more stylish as shown in her portraits that still exist today. Court dress of the time, on the other hand, was a strange mixture of fashionable high-waisted gowns with hoops underneath like what were worn in the previous century. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland
@@AnastaciaInCleveland ohh okay thanks for explaining. So the dressing style is completely accurate. Anyway which is the era where most women dressed like Queen Charlotte in this series the dresses we saw in Dangerous Liaisons and The costumes like Marie Antoinette and The film the Duchess. I love those big dresses it’s my dressing style in film. The Dangerous liaison dresses and the big hair. The others of Bridgerton were really nice but not as appealing as the ones we saw on the Queen and her ladies in waiting. I wished all costumes were like the ones the Queen wore even if it had to change the era of the show. I love the dressing style of the film the duchess and all the others I mentioned
@@sarizonana Well, as a student of fashion, I wouldn't say that Bridgerton was completely accurate, though they did get the high-waisted silhouette right. But that's a whole other video! The time period that you are talking about would be around 1750, 1760 for Dangerous Liaisons, late 1760s through the early 1790s for Marie Antoinette, and the 1770s and 1780s for The Duchess. These years were known as "The Roccoco " for fashion and art. Some of the clothing was pretty spectacular but very uncomfortable and, in the case of hairstyles, quite unhygienic.
@@AnastaciaInCleveland yees. It the fashion in those eras was spectacular and it looks so good on screen damn I wished bridgerton was was set in Rococo instead of Regency after all Rococo is not made often on film. I wished they did that series in this era, I know the books are set in regency era but the show would have looked much better with Rococco fashion 100% I’m sure it was an uncomfortable fashion and unpractical in every way but it looks incredible on screen I love those dresses on screen more than any other. Second place i renascence which was used in the tv series the Tudors. I know the series Tudors is very inaccurate in fashion the Tudors era was much more discreet and very little clevege so the producers went with renascence fashion. Now that I know the era from all those films I asked you I’m very happy to say my favorite periods in fashion to look at on screen are Rococco and Renascence
For the same reason some more mature ladies wear dated blue eye makeup and hairstyles today. Not everybody liked higher waistlines either. Queen Charlotte is the one who decreed hoops be worn at all formal English court functions.
It’s an adaptation of a book. In the book it was a duel because the caught the two in the dark with her top down. The punch happened in the first chapter and he wasn’t going to rape her he was drunk and tried to hug her.
This show is really revolutionary I was skeptical watching it at first but damn the casting the production the romance the entertainment every little detail hooked me in. . . Everyone loves a scandal
Psychologist Elizabeth Loftus says that history series like "Vikings" and "The Crown" are of great influence on how people perceive historic events up to a point where they believe that what they see is basically the truth. Russian movies use this effect when depicting World War II (e.g. "Panfilov's 28 Men"). In this case everyone accepts that this is just propaganda and a falsification of history tampering with collective memory. When Netflix does it, the matter is, of course, complelety different. Or is it?
I am not into period pieces but I must admit Bridgerton was very entertaining. It's a fictional novel so duhhh. I felt the ending was rushed. When Netflix did Marvel's Iron Fist (terrible series) it was 13 episodes with about 8 recurring characters that felt drawn out. Bridgerton was 8 episodes with over 20 recurring characters. Bridgerton could have done at least 2 more episodes to nicely wrap up Simon and Daphne's relationship.
I think a better comparison would be steampunk. What bugged me most is that the basic rules of society weren't even accurate. If they were going to change things on such a fundamental level, why even bother setting the story in that era? Its so random.
To me the most blatant inaccuracy was the everblooming Wisteria. Real Wisteria has a short blooming season, but in every shot from April through November, it was in its full glory. Perhaps they got cuttings from “Desperate Housewives,”
Regarding the ethnicity of Queen Charlotte, Queen Elizabeth II took Megan Markle on a tour of the castle and pointed out a portrait of Queen Charlette and explained that Queen Charlotte was indeed black. She also mentioned that artist of the day who painted Queen Charlotte's portrait attempted to make her look less black and more European. This actually displeased Queen Charlotte which is one reason why there are not more paintings of her. Elizabeth II pointed out the specific painting of Queen Charlotte to Megan because in it Queen Charlotte looked more black. This is the reason the painting had been a favorite of Queen Charlotte and of Queen Elizabeth II.
Alternate history isn’t a thing, that’s like saying alternative facts. History is the story of the past. That can’t be changed. What it is, is an historical fantasy. An invention based on the past like steampunk.
@@04nbod as someone who studied Film and television production and writing alternate history is real... you look at the history and give an alternative version of it and how it would look like if xyz didn't happen. You can call it Fantasy... up to you but ALTERNATE HISTORY is a thing
@@alexxolo That is called ‘counterfactual history’. These words are important. Alternative suggests there is a viable alternative to be had. Counterfactual history is this exploration of what if scenarios. It is of course not true hence the name
@@04nbod your argument makes no sense by the minute... I am no longer gonna engage with it... alternate history genre is something that exists within the film and television industry with shows... Bridgerton is that, an Alternate history to the history we know and been marginalized by. A history in which racism and racial prejudice are not a key thing. So I really don't get your argument. Try to find another comment to sound smart and smug on. Thanks. Stay safe from Corona and protect your mental health. Peace. Love and namaste 🤗
Love the show, I just wish they hadn't stated at the beginning that it was 1813 London. Why need that? Let's pretend this is an alternate universe and not the real world and then every inaccuracy in completely okay. Also would have been better not to call the queen Charlotte, just "the Queen", and then you don't place the story in the real world.
I loved Bridgerton, and from the video it seems they got most of the era right and chose bits and pieces to change. The music was lovely to listen to (did NOT expect a classical "thank u, next") and the visuals were stunning. I'm not one for romance stuff but this one has me hooked.
If I wanted history, I'd watch a documentary. I see no need to repeat the same old things in FICTION over and over for the sake of historical accuracy.
The last point was a slap in the face, another point that is branded as truth was that maids had more sexual knowledge, but when it came to the most important point Queen Charlotte there was so many evidence pointing to that direction but was Inconclysive?? Smh
She was clearly racially mixed to all her contemporaries. Even Warpole wrote a poem mentioning her heritage. Only provincial English and white colonials would hear none of it. But English held slaves named plenty of things after her to acknowledge her as black. The constant denial is unreal.
So much hate for this video! Yes, we all know it’s based on a novel set in a fictionalized regency era. Duh. But I found it really interesting learning which parts were accurate vs. where creative liberties were taken.
You are getting confused by 18th century and 1800s. They ruled mostly in the 18th century which is 1700s Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz was Queen of Great Britain and Ireland from her marriage to King George III on 8 September 1761 until the union of the two kingdoms on 1 January 1801, after which she was Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland until her death. Wikipedia Born: 19 May 1744, Duchy of Mecklenburg-Strelitz Died: 17 November 1818, Kew Palace, Richmond, United Kingdom Spouse: George III (m. 1761-1818) Children: George IV, Charlotte, Princess Royal, MORE Parents: Princess Elisabeth Albertine of Saxe-Hildburghausen, Duke Charles Louis Frederick of Mecklenburg Grandchildren: Queen Victoria, Princess Charlotte of Wales, MORE
She had FIFTEEN children. FIFTEEN! I imagine by the time the last few came along, the king and queen just hired a midwife to live at their royal residence full time. Might as well, she'll come in handy sooner or later.
Haha right? Yes, we aaall know that the show is a fictionalized regency era, but I found it really interesting to learn about the parts that are actually accurate and where the creative liberties were taken.
Not really the best example. Elizabeth 1 would have sacrificed her power if she had married. She was trading her future for the present by not having (legitimate) children. There was also status for a woman in being a virgin which did not exist for men. If you want to see how clever Elizabeth 1 was to maintain her virgin image, compare her to Cathrine the Great, another queen who also held on to her power by staying childless and unmarried. She was less discreet and had her name dragged through the mud for it.
#9 isn't completely fact. The Duke of Devonshire (the heir in the movie The Duchess) stayed a bachelor for life and never sired an heir. His parent's toxic relationship had a lot to do with his decision. His decision to stop the lineage with him is similar to Simon's decision so it has heard of in history.
Whaaaat?! You mean Bad Guy isn't a Regency era song? Well pawn my tiara and pass the weak lemonade, cause I thought from the moment that Julie Andrews talking about "bitches" ment this was going to be a factual story. I wonder how many "factual right and wrong " videos will pop up if Netflix has a SciFi Romance series. The books are found under fiction for a reason.
The fact that Simon did something "unheard of" by not wanting to secure the title and produce an heir, is of course the whole point of season 1. His father bullied and ignored him his whole youth. That's why he did not want to continue the line. He did not care for him like a son but only cared about the title. It was precicely that it was unheard of, that it was powerful vengeance against his father.
Queen Charlotte's African ancestry was distantly distant...multiple generations back. People talk about it today like it was her grandparents who were black. Queen Charlotte was no more black in phenotype or close relations than I am white with my 1% European ancestry.
@4Freedom4All Actually, about 23 years ago I read that the royal family confirmed Charlotte was part black. At the time, I didn't really follow up to see if that was true _(I didn't really care. I was more fascinated by the geographic locations named after her),_ but it was definitely said before Harry met Sall- er, I mean Meghan.
UPDATE: My bad, I'm more like 2.5% European Ancestry. 😁 I'm "black", but I embrace it all -- without ALL of my ancestors, I wouldn't be here, so I will never pretend like they aren't a part of me or be disdainful... 😊 *EDIT:* Also, now that I think of it, it _might_ be possible to resemble ancestors from generations back, so I won't rule out her having hints of African-ness in her features. But she had no immediate black relatives.
I would have failed at #3. Growing up on a farm, I understood how babies came to be by the time I was 7 or so. Plus, my mother taught us right out of her medical manuals whenever we asked a question. Since I rode bareback, fought with the boys, hunted, fished, handled weapons fairly well, spoke my mind rather clearly, and - as my father opined - was more than most men would have been strong enough to put up with, I would have been classified as a hoyden of hoydens. Yeah, not exactly marriage mart material and wouldn't have cared, either.
You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time. I loved Bridgerton. Very entertaining. You can try to take apart, all you want. It won't work. Go take apart Cleopatra, moses,Reign, etc.and all the other movies. I could go on and on. Let us just enjoy this.
Does watchmojo really think so lowly of people that they think most of us only know King George III because of Hamilton?? I mean the American educational system is shit but I feel like we should know him more than almost another other monarch. Maybe that's just me.
Queen Charlotte had like one possible African ancestor centuries before her birth...however, there is nothing that says a white person cannot have a bulbous nose or large lips. Sometimes these are the traits passed down from African ancestors (sometimes they are from white ancestors - nose and lips size are not exclusive to one race) , I myself look more like Queen Charlotte than the stereotypical mixed race person (I inherited the bulbous nose and larger mouth of my African ancestors but not their skin tone).
@@mickho7910 Like the Egyptians were supposedly white from the core, but it happened to be quite the opposite when people learned about kemet in ancient egypt. People writing history have the tendancy to "forget" to include or highlight certain details until time strike back and open the book of secrets. Remember many thought the earth was flat until proven wrong, so who knows what the future holds.
@Carine Gobin I haven’t come across a thought that Egyptians were ‘white from the core’, so I can’t comment. ‘Kemet’ is in reference to the silt left by the flooding of the Nile. As for Charlotte being black - it seems to me that that would depend on a technical definition of what constitutes black. Until then, the pointer would seem to indicate white.
@@tdr.220 She has light skin, it’s a bit racist to assume white people can’t have bulbous noses and full lips. There are many many other paintings of her that fit the narrative of her being fully white with larger lips and nose. She has well documented fully German ancestry - except for the one African ancestor centuries before her birth - who lived in the 1400s while Charlotte lived in the mid to late 1700s 300 FULL YEARS BETWEEN THEM (which it has never been confirmed that her ancestor is black or mixed btw). To be honest it’s INSULTING to call her mixed race when she’s 300 years removed. I’m mixed race with two mixed race parents and I’m constantly accused of not being mixed race enough or asked to deny I’m part black while also told I’m too black - and my ancestry is RECENT. It’s a fact that she’s mostly white. It’s hilarious to accuse me of being racist against someone that I said looks similar to me - I am a mixed race woman with light skin, a bulbous nose, and full lips. Like I said - these features can be white or black. For me they came from my African ancestors. For Charlotte? Who knows? It’s racist to assume only black people have those features.
So many things wrong with the fashion. I know it was a choice by the filmmakers, but ehhh... Yes you are right on the corsets, but also there should have been a shift on under all those corsets and stays. Mrs. Fetherington should absolutely been wearing the correct sillohuette instead of the that weird "fitted-empire" style they had her in. Also the Queen was dressed in outdated styles. All the women wearing their hair down or partially down was wrong. See 2020 Emma for correct hairstyling of the period
It's a cute show for me, pretty on the eye but not much going on with characters. Story changes too fast and there is no real development. And if they had to have a baby, it would be more interesting if it was a girl.
I think having a girl first was the better decision considering the whole vow not to have children was based around the push for an heir, but over all it was a minor detail
@4Freedom4All 😆 As a theatre major, I must strongly disagree with your assertion that Shakespeare is the best of British Literature. Firstly, he didn't even write literature (the rumored King James Psalm not withstanding), he wrote lines for plays, which were put on in a rowdy, nightclub atmosphere at the risk of disease. Plus, a lot of what he wrote was fanfiction of other famous writings; he was hardly ever original, more like a much more respectful SNL writer. His work was prolific, I'll give you that. But classic? No. That's quite absurd. Comparing Jane Austen's work to that is completely insulting to her. So, yikes.
#3 --> So Relatable As a kid born in an Asian country, & my own parents born in the 1950s. I have nil knowledge about sex, as my parents sorta refuse to speak about sex. With me having only 1 sister, & no brothers I used to be really navie until when I turn 17 & went to collage, met my friends who told me the bees & butterflies lol. I still remember that first awkward moment when my friends found out how naive I was lol. Quote something from Daphne which I read from the book, "if I ever have kids, I will make sure they are not as naive." Sometimes it's better to start somewhere early & the right way lol.
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Hey MsMojo, I know I asked this in the last video, but I really need you guys to create a playlist of all of the top 5's, 10's, 20's and 50's between MsMojo and WatchMojo, because I'm gonna out polls for those on Facebook.
Please do Looney Tunes vs Tom and Jerry.😊
That historical photo of Queen Charlotte definitely looks like a woman of color to me! The denial of that fact seems a bit racist.
How old were the debutants in general?
the queen was mixed.
I mean, the fact they’re all dancing to an orchestra playing “Thank you next” by Ariana Grande and “I’m a bad guy” by Billie Eilish at their balls, suggests the programmes goal was not to be factually correct in the first place... 😂
And dont forget Wildest Dreams by Taylor swift 😆
And girls like you by maroon 5 😂
Haha 😂😂😂
Yep lol
@@claudialuna9216 Which episode?
Everyone is commenting about how it’s supposed to be a fictional story, which is true! But videos like this are a great way to show audiences *how* they are fictional. What’s based on fact and what is it that differs from history.
With that being said I wish they included on the wrong side is how informal communication with the Queen is. She would not have been easily approached or even told to leave like she was at the Hastings ball.
Lol being told to leave was hilarious tbh.
If the Queen wanted to stay the night they would have let her.
Not really, videos like this encourage people to be spoonfed, to never to do any critical thinking nor research of their own volition, and consequently, to believe every claim on the Internet.
The funniest part is the queen was never apart of the original book series
Regé-Jean Page is the one thing that came to my mind whenever someone mentions Bridgerton 😍😍😍😍
For me, he’s Bridgerton, period!! 😍
@@lp9716 that voice... brrrrrr
Literally same 🥵🥵🥵
And I wish to be Anthony's Lady Pinmedown
Chelsea Canales piss off he’s mine
It's not a factual series. It's more so alternative history than historical fiction
It basically a series of Historical Romance Novels by Julia Quinn. It is mostly fictional. With some truth in it. This season is based on her first book called The Duke and I.
@@karenshort3880 True but they have made creative liberates with the story that change the fabric of the story
@@claytongriffith8323 They didn’t change the story. They left some of it out. And they do that to all Books to Movies. And I understand that they did take liberties. But that is normal for Books to movies too.
Roman a clef
Is this not cultural appropriation?
Actually men that slept around were socially looked down on and excluded.
Men, like women were involved in indiscretions, liaisons, affairs, etc, was allowed as long as it never became public knowledge or created a scandal.
If one did, they were excluded from society
The only exception was the person was extremely wealthy or held high place in society
Even then he would get a reputation as a rake, especially if he had put off marriage into his 30s.
There were well known libertines at the time. You could get away with loads of stuff with some rank and wealth. Maybe people wouldn't let their own daughters around you but you would not be excommunicated. Think Lord Byron.
@4Freedom4All probably because it wouldn't be very entertaining and instead quite horrible to show what Syphilis can do. And it WAS widespread, especially among the aristocracy. People wearing fake noses, covered in holes and blisters everywhere- the age rating for a realistic show would have to be 21+. It's a miracle people back then (and today!) weren't put off by STDs, especially the fatal ones. Proves how powerful hormones can be, no room left for brains apparently
there..is the rub:wealth the hiding place of all inequities.......
Yes, the corset is so unnecessary in an empire waist gown that makes everyone look either rectangular or pregnant.
I agree but maybe they wore it instead of push up bras?
At that time the coreset where coresets there like them, they where called stays at that time and tight lacing didn't come till 1840s or 1850s, coreset or stays where just like bras they did put support on the bust, another fact is that the stays and coresets are surprisingly comfortable and I know you gonna say there not, that's because of two things one a man who aragant, thinks they know women related things another is stays and corsets are supposed to be on top of a clothing material and if that corset was on top of skin it'll be like the bras that makes up feel very uncomfortable. That's the facts well most of stays and corsets.
Another ill add back then where you see the body, there beauty standers at that time was to show the bust and have a slim look to your silhouette, later in the 1800s the Victorian era began the ideal silhouette was an hourglass body and how they achieve that look was the corrsets that wore, another ideal was showing the bust more and being a lil chubby.
Again here's the facts that I know but if you like to do more research into the stays and corsets look up Bernadette banner on yt or karolina zebrowska
I love the empire dress because im an awkward shape lol its the only thing that flatters me lol
corsets or stays were used to hold the boobies in place, and provide a little shaping. Until the metal grommet was invented later in the century tight lacing was impossible (eyelets were hand sewn and would have ripped under that much strain). Regency ones were often made of soft leather.
@@alyssamcgee9013 Yass! Historical dress girlies! 🙌
Bridgerton is older than Gossip Girl. Gossip Girl copied Bridgerton not the other way around lol.
Thank u, next.
yes-- the books were written decades ago
true.
@@sharmilafalzon U know NOT MANY ARE READING.. 📚🤯😮😵
The Bridgestone books started being published before gossip girl the show was on but the Bridgestone tv show and some of the later books aren’t older than gossip girl, though I don’t think either one of them copied each other sometimes shows just use similar styles and themes based on what’s popular in current times
@@Coffee-ve8ub The Gossip Girl writer literally said the Bridgerton books were inspiration...so she did kind of copy. And the fact is the Bridgerton world existed first....doesn't matter that later books came out after the Gossip Girl show. That's irrelevant to my statement.
King George had porphyria and that’s what caused his madness. The Prince of Wales did become his Regent and then finally king. His daughter died from child birth, leading the way for Victoria to be Queen at 18. The best movie to watch about George is The Madness of King George, in which all is explained. When in doubt: IMDB.
Porphyria is just a theory. Victoria was able to become queen was because out of three older sons only one had a living child. Charlotte was the daughter of George IV, his granddaughter.
@@muppetsrule1143 It's a good theory tho. And yes, when I say Prince of Wales, I do mean George IV who was Regent for his father George III. The only living child in the direct lineage had been Charlotte, which is why Vic was the next in line.
I'm so glad they are doing 8 seasons, I can't wait for the next one, so excited!!!!✨✨✨
@Sarai Shantel IKR!
There are 8 books. Where can that information be found they will do 8 seasons?
@@lovelybliss3778 Yeah no one said that there would be 8 seasons. They only confirmed the second season as far as I know. :D
GOD NO!!!! One season is one too many. Hearing about this for years will be as bad as having to hear about the Kartrashians for the last few years.
EIGHT?! SERIOUSLY?! I'M SO GLAD!!!
One thing they got wrong about Queen Charlotte, was her accent. Queen Charlotte was from Mecklenberg-Strelitz, in Germany, when she first came to England to marry George III, she couldn't speak a word of English. While she learned to speak English, it was always with a very thick German accent. She was 17 when she came to England, by 1813, she still spoke with a thick accent.
She came to England in 1761, at 17, 52yrs later she was 69
That historical photo of Queen Charlotte definitely looks like a woman of color to me! The denial of that fact seems a bit racist.
I didn't deny anything. She may have had Black ancestors, but she was born in Germany, & spoke with a thick accent, once she learned to speak English. By 1813, Queen Charlotte had been in England for 52yrs, but still spoke with a German accent.
@@carlapereirarodrigues I checked out portraits of her parents and one had thick lips, the other the flat nose. Add those together, and you get her. We mustn't forget that a woman in the US managed to pass off as black recently when she had no recent black ancestors.
I am aware of that
I'm just a simple person I see Bridgerton i click 😁
Noble women did not work. Commoners did. Being "in trade" was not acceptable for the aristocracy.
Noble women managed their husband's estates, which was a lot of work. They didn't get paid for it but they certainly worked as a managerial position. Being in 'trade' as in service work was not common for the aristocracy because aristrocracy would get their income their property and assets. Btw, most women were commonners, so most women could works.
Not historically correct but so damn entertaining nonetheless. BRING ON SEASON 2!
Is the next one things Harry Potter got wrong about boarding schools 🙄
🤣🤣🤣 Right?!
please 😭
Everything
Ok that is hilarious, u made my day
That the students never learn English, math, or science.
Being British born, I felt awkward initially watching a historical period drama not factually accurate. But as someone else pointed out, it's not meant to be accurate just entertaining which it definitely is. Ended up loving the mixed cast & realized though this may not be how it was, it was how it SHOULD have been. Rege-Jean is perfection.
Honestly, the mixed cast is basically the only thing that got my attention. Especially Lady Danbury.
@@meaghanburch9918 same I love how diverse it is
Our lands were better before the 1950s - racial purity and safety go hand in hand.
@@meaghanburch9918there’s four people of colour if not five in the cast queen Charlotte , lady Danbury Simon Kate and Edwina sharma
You shouldnt watch Bridgerton for historical accuracy, but simply for entertainment.
Well yes, but its bad if history gots altered just because of an political agenda.
Exactly but the problem is that many people get their education historical facts from films ..However the ones that will be very piss off are the BLM movement because their whole argument was all about racism and slavery even today and this show based from early 19th century despite a total opposite opposite perspective
@@ramireza6904 bro shut up you mad because they don’t have an all white cast it’s 2022 😂
You forgot to delete everything after "you shouldn't watch bridgerton"
@@eligreer5406
OOOOHH ?? GOT 🔥 🐲
Fictional or non-fictional: I do not understand who thought it was a good idea to wear stays/corsets directly on naked skin. This is so ridiculous. You can see that in every want-to-be-historical-movie but it is simply wrong. Stays are always worn above a chemise!
That's why in some scenes with Daphne, you can see where the corset has dug into her back,because of the wounds especially around the shoulder blades.
@@eggy4152She shouldn't have been wearing a corset anyways 😂 Linen half stays maybe 💁♀️
Love your videos,. One thing I think you got wrong is the fact that Simon, in the book The Duke and I, was willing to allow his dukedom to go to a distant relative, which is what would happen if there was not a male heir. The books are quite exciting to read and listen to if you’re into audiobooks. Thanks again.
Call it a small thing but Simon (and others) wearing riding boots ALL the time drove me crazy. His neckpiece was often wrong as well.
Thank goodness I thought I was the only one with an issue with his clothes. He looked so sloppy at the beginning.
And in Bridgerton Queen Charlotte, King George not wearing a wig.
Bridgerton is the coolest and prettiest tv series of Netflix in all the time the characters are cool and interesting,the story is interesting and is based in real life
2:40 "there was nothing more important to a man...." except for the part where it wasn't important to Simon....
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Exactly! The pain & heartbreak inflicted on him by his father’s treatment believably overrides/negates any societal pressure Simon might have felt to continue his line.
Omg thank you!!!!
Bridgerton is my new favorite show. I've watched it 3 times already.
Same here! Twice in British English, once in French 😂
🥂🤣 Sooo, I won't feel silly watching it again and again. From the comments apparently I missed a lot!
Bridgerton is so amazing! Shonda Rimes is a genius! She’s truly done it again with yet another show. Shonda definitely knows what she’s doing making amazing shows like Grey’s Anatomy, Scandal, How To Get Away With Murder And Bridgerton.
@Johny Cafe's WIFE Genius? This show is so poorly written, acted and just so dumb that it can satisfy only Americans and black Americans who apparently want to be Europdzn , like Rhonda apparently.
@@kiaaurora not even close. Most of African Americans hate this sort of thing because it doesn't represent them accurately. I know African American teacher who really hates when Lolywood does this things.
@@kiaaurora I'm not sure you were racist enough in this comment. Would you like to try again with some racial slurs perhaps? I am an extremely well educated American with a doctoral degree and I thoroughly enjoyed Bridgerton as the escapist medium it was meant to be.
@@kiaaurora may G.od give you peace because you are full of hatred. Life is short May your soul and spirit be healed 😆😆😆🥰
@@JoWithTheJD Racist? This show is racist. To everybody. It takes European piece and presents it in a way to be appealing to American audiences both in terms of sense of humor (yes, American is different than British) and racial representation, which is inappropriate. Rhonda is absolutely pathetic in her desire to inject black Americans into European period pieces and it's weird and pathetic. Oh how she must long to be European. It's also racist to black people because it seems like they have to be allowed into period pieces they don't belong in to make them feel better and it's pitiful. And racist. She could just make a movie in which black people don't have to pretend they are European. Also, Queen Charlotte in the these series looks like a drag queen, how offensive. Not a single Brit I spoke to likes this show.
Isn’t this based on a fictional novel? 😂
I was thinking the same thing
Still a legitimate list on what the show got wrong or right. Setting a fictional story in a fantasy world (like Tolkien, George R.R. Martin, etc.) let’s you get away with quite a bit in fashions, demographics, etc. - as an artist and someone who writes stories based in real worlds and fantasy worlds, fantasy is sooo much easier (especially in fashion). But since “Bridgerton” does take place in the real world, in a real (and fairly recent) time period, it is interesting to see how much and where they’re trying to stay accurate. And I am loving the racially blind casting - makes things refreshing.
@@kimberlyhaines107 I read an article about Bridgerton's "racially blind" casting. The director sad, that they didn't think of it as racially blind casting because they purposefully looked for actors of colour. They changed the history in that sense, that queen Charlotte was seen as a black woman who then also gave titles to other black people (like the duke of hastings). So what i'm trying to say is, that its not really "racially blind" casting since it was intended. This is not supposed to be critical in any way and I do definitely agree with you that it is quite refreshing, I just thought it was an interesting fact when I read it and thought I might share it with you.
Yes. Fictional Historical Romance Novel. It’s a series of books by Julia Quinn. The first book is this first season. Called the Duke and I.
Yes it’s based on a ROMANCE series, it’s not supposed to be historically accurate. Why is that so hard for people ranting about ‘inaccuracies’ to understand??? Get over yourselves...
King George actually suffered from porphyria, a blood disease which also affected his moods. He wasn’t mad.
I can see why many like Bridgerton, but I can also see why people don't like it either.
I honestly like it and I liked how they changed it for Netflix. But I also like the style, so I'm looking forward to more of it.
What I like about Bridgerton is even though it's period era drama, they made it into somewhat an escapism take as the main idea. Overall there may be some historical inaccuracies but it is enjoyable enough because of the diversities
Jane Austen didn't live by her pen. She published anonymously because a woman writing would be shameful and she and her sister were shuffled around based on where their brother could afford to keep them. Look in Emma, that Jane Fairfax must become a governess is considered a waste. Women who worked did so mostly because they had to to survive, not because they were strong independent women
There was no sexual revolution of the 17th Century. The rich were always fucking about because they could afford to get away with it. it was the rise of the middle classes and middle class values that changed things.
19th century? These books were based in early 1800s, I thought.
@@FirebreathingVegan1 The early 1800s is the 19th century. The 1900s were the 20th century. The 2000s are the 21st century
The video refers to some sort of sexual revolution pre dating this era that led to the moral tightness of the Victorian era which is nonsense.
Random shout out to Polly Walker who plays Lady Featherington and Jane Fairfax! 🙌🏽 🙌🏽 🙌🏽
@@FirebreathingVegan1 the 1800s is the 19th century. Just as the 1900s were the 20th century and the 2000s are the 21st century. This is because the years from
1-99 were the 1st century. Then the 100s were the 2nd century. Got it now?
I LOVED the Queen. She was perfection!
but she was not even in the book )
I felt this show was more of an adult fairytale and didn’t need to adhere to the real world.
It’s not based on a true story, it’s based on a fictional novel.
There are actual people that existed, read your history, Queens Charlotte was real .
Just because it's fiction doesn't mean everything is pure fantasy. There are different levels of accuracy in fiction. You can have a made-up story but the era portrayed can still be accurate more or less. There can be elements of reality in fiction so it's interesting to point out what's accurate and what's not.
I love this video because it lets us know the many ways we still haven't changed. Men still have the same ideas when it comes to women's sexual count, marriage, and their role in society. I think women are changing this narrative though, and is why we experience so much pushback.
why did you say "Whistledown" like Stewie says "whipped" fhjff
This is based on a book, not History itself. Not all books/series/movies want to be completely historical accurate, that’d be very hard
And it barely followed the book!! I’m as much disappointed in that as in the historical errors!
@@quirk65 I read the book first so I could compare. In some places the book was better and in some the Netflix series was. I need to read the rest of the books in the series so I can see if some of the Netflix additions were actually drawn from later books in the series.
I do not even remember queen Charlotte from the book. The only thing i know about this historical character, she was promoting the wide use of apples in English cuisine and that "charlotte' apple cake was named after her.
No, women weren’t doing that well generally in old times. Those who earned their earning were a very rare few. Saying that ‘women were doing just fine’ is sort of an insult to those women who fought hard for the equality in the history.
@4Freedom4All Precisely!
No, most women were working and earning. Women worked from coal mine and to dress shops, but they worked for far lower pay than men and often fired from job to make room for men. Also, after marriage women's earning would belong to their husband, and they would loose everything. This was definitely grim for women, and life sucks. Its not insult to the women who fought for equality to state these facts.
To your thoughts about Number 9, that could be possiable why? the duchess of Devonshire went through a lot of difficulty to have a son which her husband so badly wanted, they son never married none had children of his own. Now maybe the reason why he never married none have kids of his own after learning how badly his father had treated his mother that he didn't want to put a women through the same thing.
The queen is a mood I inspire to be her 👑😂😂
Downton’s perspective on the Season for Mary was a bit better; obviously, getting your match the first time was the ideal- but you did have _some_ time before you were considered ’on the shelf’....
I think you were "on the shelf" after like 23-25 years old. And most ladies came out at 16-18 years old. Look at the Bennet's in Jane Austen. So there was time in between. But marrying young was still considered to be desirable.
Not the same périod .1813 fot the Bridgerton 1913 for Downton
@@tinkeratlecta8620 If in doubt, check Jane Austen's works. It was nice to be married in first season, but it was not necessary.
@@blauespony1013 No, in Regency era the average marriage age for women fell between 22-26. Marrying between 23-25 would be perfectly normal, late but normal. Its around 27-29 where women would be considered "on the shelf." Women would typically come out between 17-19 as we see in both book and show.
@@shintiariva6012 I said they were on the shelf after 23-25 (which means from 26 onwards). So I don't think we disagree. It depended a bit on social class as well and on marriage expectations. Lydia is out and she is not 16. That seems uncommon, but more because her elder sisters are not yet married.
I don’t mind much the accuracy here since the show it’s based on fiction but I’m confused about the costumes?
Why the debutants dress like in Pride and Prejudice and gowns are a little more loose while the Queen and her ladies in waiting dress like Marie Antoinette or like Glenn Close in Dangerous Liaisons and Keira Knightly in the film the duchess which is dress style in the regency era ?
Like the debutants or like the Queen and her ladies in waiting.
There's a movie trope that older ladies dressed in the fashions of their youth. That was usually not true. Taking Bridgerton as an example, Queen Charlotte was actually much more stylish as shown in her portraits that still exist today. Court dress of the time, on the other hand, was a strange mixture of fashionable high-waisted gowns with hoops underneath like what were worn in the previous century. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland
@@AnastaciaInCleveland ohh okay thanks for explaining. So the dressing style is completely accurate.
Anyway which is the era where most women dressed like Queen Charlotte in this series the dresses we saw in Dangerous Liaisons and The costumes like Marie Antoinette and The film the Duchess.
I love those big dresses it’s my dressing style in film. The Dangerous liaison dresses and the big hair. The others of Bridgerton were really nice but not as appealing as the ones we saw on the Queen and her ladies in waiting.
I wished all costumes were like the ones the Queen wore even if it had to change the era of the show. I love the dressing style of the film the duchess and all the others I mentioned
@@sarizonana Well, as a student of fashion, I wouldn't say that Bridgerton was completely accurate, though they did get the high-waisted silhouette right. But that's a whole other video! The time period that you are talking about would be around 1750, 1760 for Dangerous Liaisons, late 1760s through the early 1790s for Marie Antoinette, and the 1770s and 1780s for The Duchess. These years were known as "The Roccoco " for fashion and art. Some of the clothing was pretty spectacular but very uncomfortable and, in the case of hairstyles, quite unhygienic.
@@AnastaciaInCleveland yees. It the fashion in those eras was spectacular and it looks so good on screen damn I wished bridgerton was was set in Rococo instead of Regency after all Rococo is not made often on film.
I wished they did that series in this era, I know the books are set in regency era but the show would have looked much better with Rococco fashion 100%
I’m sure it was an uncomfortable fashion and unpractical in every way but it looks incredible on screen I love those dresses on screen more than any other. Second place i renascence which was used in the tv series the Tudors.
I know the series Tudors is very inaccurate in fashion the Tudors era was much more discreet and very little clevege so the producers went with renascence fashion.
Now that I know the era from all those films I asked you I’m very happy to say my favorite periods in fashion to look at on screen are
Rococco and Renascence
For the same reason some more mature ladies wear dated blue eye makeup and hairstyles today. Not everybody liked higher waistlines either. Queen Charlotte is the one who decreed hoops be worn at all formal English court functions.
It’s an adaptation of a book. In the book it was a duel because the caught the two in the dark with her top down. The punch happened in the first chapter and he wasn’t going to rape her he was drunk and tried to hug her.
I watch it for The Duke of Hastings! 💜💜💜💜
This show is really revolutionary I was skeptical watching it at first but damn the casting the production the romance the entertainment every little detail hooked me in. . . Everyone loves a scandal
Psychologist Elizabeth Loftus says that history series like "Vikings" and "The Crown" are of great influence on how people perceive historic events up to a point where they believe that what they see is basically the truth. Russian movies use this effect when depicting World War II (e.g. "Panfilov's 28 Men"). In this case everyone accepts that this is just propaganda and a falsification of history tampering with collective memory. When Netflix does it, the matter is, of course, complelety different. Or is it?
elevating black peoples status even in fiction is instantly doubted & disparaged..surprise 🙄👀
@@gigiarmany4332 There was not a single word about people of colour in my comment. You might be referring to some other discussion.
It's not Netflix's fault that people are ignorant and can't be bothered to study history.
@@anthyavila9726 You're right, it isn't their fault. But it could be a responsibility.
I've read all the book in the series when they were new. I love the characters and the story. Bring it to life just enhanced it for me.
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I am not into period pieces but I must admit Bridgerton was very entertaining. It's a fictional novel so duhhh. I felt the ending was rushed. When Netflix did Marvel's Iron Fist (terrible series) it was 13 episodes with about 8 recurring characters that felt drawn out. Bridgerton was 8 episodes with over 20 recurring characters. Bridgerton could have done at least 2 more episodes to nicely wrap up Simon and Daphne's relationship.
Guys bridgerton is a fictional book is not changing actual history ,is fiction enjoy it ,u guys don't do this with avengers or super man
Not comparable.
One is set in an actual historic time period with historic figures the other is not.
All am saying bridgerton is just fictional simple
I think a better comparison would be steampunk. What bugged me most is that the basic rules of society weren't even accurate. If they were going to change things on such a fundamental level, why even bother setting the story in that era? Its so random.
The best Ms. Mojo video ever! Agree-able
“Lovable tyrant from Hamilton” PUH-LEASE GROFFSAUCE WENT CRAY CRAY 🤩
To me the most blatant inaccuracy was the everblooming Wisteria. Real Wisteria has a short blooming season, but in every shot from April through November, it was in its full glory. Perhaps they got cuttings from “Desperate Housewives,”
Okay, fine! I'll watch Bridgerton lol
Regarding the ethnicity of Queen Charlotte, Queen Elizabeth II took Megan Markle on a tour of the castle and pointed out a portrait of Queen Charlette and explained that Queen Charlotte was indeed black. She also mentioned that artist of the day who painted Queen Charlotte's portrait attempted to make her look less black and more European. This actually displeased Queen Charlotte which is one reason why there are not more paintings of her. Elizabeth II pointed out the specific painting of Queen Charlotte to Megan because in it Queen Charlotte looked more black. This is the reason the painting had been a favorite of Queen Charlotte and of Queen Elizabeth II.
Thank you! I was just about to comment that #1 was not inconclusive. Queen Charlotte was a black woman.
All rubbish! Queen Chsrlotte did have African ancestry but it was very distant. North African or Moorish.
Several centuries ago.
For me the Regency Era fashion was elegant and graceful compared to the Rococo period and Victorian Era
@4Freedom4All everything in the show is historically inaccurate. I'm not a racist, but there's a lot of blackwashing in it too.
The show is focused on Alternate history... it tells a compelling story
Agreed :))
Alternate history isn’t a thing, that’s like saying alternative facts. History is the story of the past. That can’t be changed. What it is, is an historical fantasy. An invention based on the past like steampunk.
@@04nbod as someone who studied Film and television production and writing alternate history is real... you look at the history and give an alternative version of it and how it would look like if xyz didn't happen. You can call it Fantasy... up to you but ALTERNATE HISTORY is a thing
@@alexxolo That is called ‘counterfactual history’. These words are important. Alternative suggests there is a viable alternative to be had. Counterfactual history is this exploration of what if scenarios. It is of course not true hence the name
@@04nbod your argument makes no sense by the minute... I am no longer gonna engage with it... alternate history genre is something that exists within the film and television industry with shows... Bridgerton is that, an Alternate history to the history we know and been marginalized by. A history in which racism and racial prejudice are not a key thing. So I really don't get your argument. Try to find another comment to sound smart and smug on. Thanks. Stay safe from Corona and protect your mental health. Peace. Love and namaste 🤗
next please discuss the historical accuracy of the film Hobbit ..thank you🙄👀🤦🏾♀️
Love the show, I just wish they hadn't stated at the beginning that it was 1813 London. Why need that? Let's pretend this is an alternate universe and not the real world and then every inaccuracy in completely okay. Also would have been better not to call the queen Charlotte, just "the Queen", and then you don't place the story in the real world.
agree!
I loved Bridgerton, and from the video it seems they got most of the era right and chose bits and pieces to change. The music was lovely to listen to (did NOT expect a classical "thank u, next") and the visuals were stunning. I'm not one for romance stuff but this one has me hooked.
I’m I the only one that actually likes historical accuracy in this type of series?.. 🤔 🤷🏻♀️😅
Yes
If I wanted history, I'd watch a documentary. I see no need to repeat the same old things in FICTION over and over for the sake of historical accuracy.
The last point was a slap in the face, another point that is branded as truth was that maids had more sexual knowledge, but when it came to the most important point Queen Charlotte there was so many evidence pointing to that direction but was Inconclysive?? Smh
Queen Charlotte was a black woman 💖
She was clearly racially mixed to all her contemporaries. Even Warpole wrote a poem mentioning her heritage. Only provincial English and white colonials would hear none of it. But English held slaves named plenty of things after her to acknowledge her as black. The constant denial is unreal.
@@goldensiren5606 Her African ancestor was born 300 years before her. If that's what qualifies as black then I'm a Native American Jew.
So much hate for this video! Yes, we all know it’s based on a novel set in a fictionalized regency era. Duh. But I found it really interesting learning which parts were accurate vs. where creative liberties were taken.
Amazing video msmojo
Who cares! Bridgerton is never intended to be historically correct. I love it the way it is.
You are getting confused by 18th century and 1800s. They ruled mostly in the 18th century which is 1700s
Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz was Queen of Great Britain and Ireland from her marriage to King George III on 8 September 1761 until the union of the two kingdoms on 1 January 1801, after which she was Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland until her death. Wikipedia
Born: 19 May 1744, Duchy of Mecklenburg-Strelitz
Died: 17 November 1818, Kew Palace, Richmond, United Kingdom
Spouse: George III (m. 1761-1818)
Children: George IV, Charlotte, Princess Royal, MORE
Parents: Princess Elisabeth Albertine of Saxe-Hildburghausen, Duke Charles Louis Frederick of Mecklenburg
Grandchildren: Queen Victoria, Princess Charlotte of Wales, MORE
She had FIFTEEN children. FIFTEEN! I imagine by the time the last few came along, the king and queen just hired a midwife to live at their royal residence full time. Might as well, she'll come in handy sooner or later.
Queen charlotte is my FAVE!
What I fear is that a lot of people watch this and think its accurate, theres a lot of them sadly
This is a fictional story it's been repeated Seve times already.
What is with all of the complaints about how educational this video is? Are people allergic to learning now? I hope that’s not contagious.
Exactly, so fucking dumb. People really hate facts. This video isn’t even an attack on the show AT ALL
damn weirdos... 🙄🙄
@@nadinegomez8858 LOL
Haha right? Yes, we aaall know that the show is a fictionalized regency era, but I found it really interesting to learn about the parts that are actually accurate and where the creative liberties were taken.
@@nadinegomez8858 man it’s like the Bridgerton fan base is as crazy as the Bey-hive or 1D’ers.
@@allisonheath1156 literally. Going through the comments was actually *painful* 😖🤮. I had to stop lest my brain ended up exploding.
It was uncommon to not want to sire their future but not entirely unlikely. See Elizabeth I
Not really the best example. Elizabeth 1 would have sacrificed her power if she had married. She was trading her future for the present by not having (legitimate) children.
There was also status for a woman in being a virgin which did not exist for men.
If you want to see how clever Elizabeth 1 was to maintain her virgin image, compare her to Cathrine the Great, another queen who also held on to her power by staying childless and unmarried. She was less discreet and had her name dragged through the mud for it.
The outfits are so beautiful! ❤️
Also Hastings isn't a dukedom.
Bridgerton is based off a fictional fantasy novel, it is not meant to be historically correct.
Obviously the series isn’t gonna be factual but it is interesting to see what parts of it were!
#9 isn't completely fact. The Duke of Devonshire (the heir in the movie The Duchess) stayed a bachelor for life and never sired an heir. His parent's toxic relationship had a lot to do with his decision. His decision to stop the lineage with him is similar to Simon's decision so it has heard of in history.
Sienna didn't fully support herself as she depended Anthony Bridgerton to name one. She flipped out when he said that he couldn't see her anymore.
Anyways I’m really sad that we have to wait a couple years to see the season
Eloise is my favourite 😍.. So relatable
Whaaaat?! You mean Bad Guy isn't a Regency era song? Well pawn my tiara and pass the weak lemonade, cause I thought from the moment that Julie Andrews talking about "bitches" ment this was going to be a factual story. I wonder how many "factual right and wrong " videos will pop up if Netflix has a SciFi Romance series. The books are found under fiction for a reason.
The fact that Simon did something "unheard of" by not wanting to secure the title and produce an heir, is of course the whole point of season 1. His father bullied and ignored him his whole youth. That's why he did not want to continue the line. He did not care for him like a son but only cared about the title. It was precicely that it was unheard of, that it was powerful vengeance against his father.
I’m unsure why there is a debate about Queen Charlotte’s ethnicity if the Royal family had confirmed this themselves
Queen Charlotte's African ancestry was distantly distant...multiple generations back. People talk about it today like it was her grandparents who were black.
Queen Charlotte was no more black in phenotype or close relations than I am white with my 1% European ancestry.
@4Freedom4All Actually, about 23 years ago I read that the royal family confirmed Charlotte was part black. At the time, I didn't really follow up to see if that was true _(I didn't really care. I was more fascinated by the geographic locations named after her),_ but it was definitely said before Harry met Sall- er, I mean Meghan.
UPDATE: My bad, I'm more like 2.5% European Ancestry. 😁
I'm "black", but I embrace it all -- without ALL of my ancestors, I wouldn't be here, so I will never pretend like they aren't a part of me or be disdainful... 😊
*EDIT:* Also, now that I think of it, it _might_ be possible to resemble ancestors from generations back, so I won't rule out her having hints of African-ness in her features. But she had no immediate black relatives.
I would have failed at #3. Growing up on a farm, I understood how babies came to be by the time I was 7 or so. Plus, my mother taught us right out of her medical manuals whenever we asked a question. Since I rode bareback, fought with the boys, hunted, fished, handled weapons fairly well, spoke my mind rather clearly, and - as my father opined - was more than most men would have been strong enough to put up with, I would have been classified as a hoyden of hoydens. Yeah, not exactly marriage mart material and wouldn't have cared, either.
very very great fun list I like it a lot great job mis mojo one of my very favorite list ever
Queen Charlotte was definitely a mixed black woman . It’s only so much the painters of that time could disguise back then
EXACTLY
There is no very factual information about this .
Eloise is my favorite character
Who would have thought a historical romance writer does actually research the historical period they write!!
Georgette Heyer said about her own research: "I lived in the British Museum."
@Easter Worshipperomg enough already! Get out of my comment and go home!!
@Easter Worshipper Do some research.
@Easter Worshipper Google: History of blacks in Britian
You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time. I loved Bridgerton. Very entertaining. You can try to take apart, all you want. It won't work. Go take apart Cleopatra, moses,Reign, etc.and all the other movies. I could go on and on. Let us just enjoy this.
Today I learned that Bridgeton had any historical background to it
You will never know how deep the rabbit hole goes
Does watchmojo really think so lowly of people that they think most of us only know King George III because of Hamilton?? I mean the American educational system is shit but I feel like we should know him more than almost another other monarch. Maybe that's just me.
It's American
I love this channel
IT IS SOOOOO GOOD I LOVED IT.
Literally love this show I have always been fascinated with that time period.
Queen Charlotte had like one possible African ancestor centuries before her birth...however, there is nothing that says a white person cannot have a bulbous nose or large lips. Sometimes these are the traits passed down from African ancestors (sometimes they are from white ancestors - nose and lips size are not exclusive to one race) , I myself look more like Queen Charlotte than the stereotypical mixed race person (I inherited the bulbous nose and larger mouth of my African ancestors but not their skin tone).
That historical photo of Queen Charlotte definitely looks like a woman of color to me! The denial of that fact seems a bit racist.
Queen Charlotte a black woman = wishful thinking.
@@mickho7910 Like the Egyptians were supposedly white from the core, but it happened to be quite the opposite when people learned about kemet in ancient egypt. People writing history have the tendancy to "forget" to include or highlight certain details until time strike back and open the book of secrets. Remember many thought the earth was flat until proven wrong, so who knows what the future holds.
@Carine Gobin I haven’t come across a thought that Egyptians were ‘white from the core’, so I can’t comment. ‘Kemet’ is in reference to the silt left by the flooding of the Nile. As for Charlotte being black - it seems to me that that would depend on a technical definition of what constitutes black. Until then, the pointer would seem to indicate white.
@@tdr.220 She has light skin, it’s a bit racist to assume white people can’t have bulbous noses and full lips. There are many many other paintings of her that fit the narrative of her being fully white with larger lips and nose. She has well documented fully German ancestry - except for the one African ancestor centuries before her birth - who lived in the 1400s while Charlotte lived in the mid to late 1700s 300 FULL YEARS BETWEEN THEM (which it has never been confirmed that her ancestor is black or mixed btw). To be honest it’s INSULTING to call her mixed race when she’s 300 years removed. I’m mixed race with two mixed race parents and I’m constantly accused of not being mixed race enough or asked to deny I’m part black while also told I’m too black - and my ancestry is RECENT. It’s a fact that she’s mostly white. It’s hilarious to accuse me of being racist against someone that I said looks similar to me - I am a mixed race woman with light skin, a bulbous nose, and full lips. Like I said - these features can be white or black. For me they came from my African ancestors. For Charlotte? Who knows? It’s racist to assume only black people have those features.
I love Rege since watching him in For the People. So sad when the series was cancelled.
i love the clothes in bridgeton
My mother told me nothing about reproduction and I'm a boomer. On the other hand, I didn't want to know.
So many things wrong with the fashion. I know it was a choice by the filmmakers, but ehhh... Yes you are right on the corsets, but also there should have been a shift on under all those corsets and stays. Mrs. Fetherington should absolutely been wearing the correct sillohuette instead of the that weird "fitted-empire" style they had her in. Also the Queen was dressed in outdated styles. All the women wearing their hair down or partially down was wrong. See 2020 Emma for correct hairstyling of the period
If the show was based on facts no one would watch. The show is popular and exciting because it’s fictional also for the modern twist of it.
It's a cute show for me, pretty on the eye but not much going on with characters. Story changes too fast and there is no real development. And if they had to have a baby, it would be more interesting if it was a girl.
In the book, Simon and Daphne had 3 girls before they had a boy.
I think having a girl first was the better decision considering the whole vow not to have children was based around the push for an heir, but over all it was a minor detail
The author wasn't even trying to make is historically accurate smh. It is a freaking romance novel
@4Freedom4All 😆 As a theatre major, I must strongly disagree with your assertion that Shakespeare is the best of British Literature. Firstly, he didn't even write literature (the rumored King James Psalm not withstanding), he wrote lines for plays, which were put on in a rowdy, nightclub atmosphere at the risk of disease. Plus, a lot of what he wrote was fanfiction of other famous writings; he was hardly ever original, more like a much more respectful SNL writer. His work was prolific, I'll give you that. But classic? No. That's quite absurd. Comparing Jane Austen's work to that is completely insulting to her. So, yikes.
As, the show, "Bridgerton" is an adaptation it is not meant to be directly retelling of the book and that's part of what made the show a hit.
It's meant to be a WOKE adaptation!
#3 --> So Relatable
As a kid born in an Asian country, & my own parents born in the 1950s. I have nil knowledge about sex, as my parents sorta refuse to speak about sex. With me having only 1 sister, & no brothers I used to be really navie until when I turn 17 & went to collage, met my friends who told me the bees & butterflies lol. I still remember that first awkward moment when my friends found out how naive I was lol.
Quote something from Daphne which I read from the book, "if I ever have kids, I will make sure they are not as naive." Sometimes it's better to start somewhere early & the right way lol.