wow. The tool needs five distinct levers and the lock has to be picked twice to get opened. That and "This lock took a _bit_ more effort than most auto locks ..." is practically glowing praise
@@gilliamdelauw1693 yeah he preceded that by saying "as with almost any case..." So yeah. The best lock I've seen is the 🏍️ lock where you have to have surgeon's hands in order to pick it. And takes a long time to pick.
Not really. You house is just a vulnerable as before. Thieves will go in from the window regardless what locks you use. It's the fastest and most reliable way of breaking in. But in case you lock yourself out, it will take you longer to get back in.
@@BrandMalone24 Why would at thief care, they are not getting past the immobilizer anyway, so at that point they are just trying to grab something of value inside the car and go of with it.
Had a cool experience this past weekend, went on a simple residential re-key job and the customer kept asking me questions like “Can you put some spool pins in my kwikset lock to toughen it up against lock pickers?” I laughed and asked where he knew about top pins from and he said “I have no idea about locksmithing/lockpicking but I LOVE watching LPL’s videos!” Gotta love it.
I think there's a few that go past the five minute mark, but I can't remember, because a lot of his longer videos have him disassembling the lock at the end.
If you can get into the vehicle without being detected, the immobilizer is the easy part, assuming you have the knowledge. Sitting in a vehicle legitimizes you to a casual observer.
Any bad guy interested enough to pick a lock like this will just go through the window, I would call that lock a success for its intended purpose. Great video as always!
that is when you use a car alarm, so that it wakes up the neighborhood. I had my window rolled down all the way, so I just reached in and pulled up the switch. It thought I was stealing my own car. There I am reading the owners manual trying to figure out how to turn it off. Meanwhile the alarm is blaring and everyone in the store parking lot is looking at me like I'm an idiot.
@@WhiteWolfDarkpaw I wonder if cars as a service will become a thing so even if you steal a car... its wasn't yours and destroying it will be worthless because all the commodity parts will be black boxes that are serial registered and deactivate if misused or stolen. God I can't wait for our dystopian future where owning nothing is the best deterrent towards thieves. In California.
@@TheQuark6789 I didn't have a remote for the car. I bought it used and it didn't have one. I had to put the key in the ignition turn it to the on position, but not start it and then turn it off and take the key out. Then I could put the key in normally and start it.
I own a Rav4 and was like "oh fuck" when I saw LPL having done a video on it's locks. Pleasantly surprised by the pick resistance. About 2 minutes to pick and using a specific specialized tool. That's like gold medal stuff.
The specialized tool isn't required. It just makes it easier to visualize what the pick movements mean. It's still respectable by the admittedly low standards other auto locks have set.
it wouldn't surprise me that if you had the skill to overcome the immobilizer, you could probably also have the car unlock itself. I've heard on some vehicles the CAN bus or similar isn't so hard to get to externally
I have been a locksmith (owner) since 03/91...I have always been very good and always learning at picking locks. I have only become aware of this Channel about 3 years ago and it has both enlightened me and confirmed things for me. I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE SOME 'IN THE FIELD ' applications of these picking procedures, when the blizzard is packing snow behind your ears and your fingers are numb, in the dark, and just the frustrated client to hold the flashlight.
Wow. You've been locksmithing since I was born. Happy 31 years next month. Hope your business is doing well! I'm sure you've been on some interesting jobs.
@@NickStewartProgrammer I've been an automotive locksmith for 40 years. We run 120 to 150 calls per week. Guess how many times we pick car locks? If you said zero you would be correct. No need to pick car locks. We use professional tools to open doors. In some odd cases to maybe to get a trunk open. It's not the trunk lock you are picking but the door to disable the alarm that's keeping the trunk from opening. Usually you can pull the lock anyway and manipulate the latch. Most guys who are using a Lishi use it to decode the lock to cut a key. To be honest we don't have time to for that being so busy. We stopped pulling locks years ago unless it's quick and easy. We pay for key codes and pass that on to the customer. They would pay the same price for our labor so it's not more money. We try to work smarter. Picking locks if you are an automotive locksmith would be a very little used skill. I impressioned locks back in day. That is an entirely different skill set. Also pretty useless on modern cars.
I suppose the biggest surprise is how recent the model is. Most of the Automotive Lishi tools seem to be only good for older model vehicles - still very common vehicles, but rarely anything under 10 years old. Picking a 2020 year Toyota is quite recent.
Lishi tools are available for almost all the latest vehicles and new ones are released as new vehicles come on the market. You'd be hard pressed to find a car on the road that doesn't have a tool available. But not all of the tools are sold on locksport websites.
This type of lock has been in use by Toyota since at least MY (Model Year) 2015, likely earlier. (Got a South American MY 2015 Corolla manufactured in late 2014 with that lock and similar keyfob -- only difference is that the middle button in mine is the trunk release instead of a panic button). (And while I do appreciate the faint praise LPL gave this lock and the fact it put a decent fight, the fact that each wafer has only three possible cuts is... disturbing) EDIT: Just checked my car key; the bidding seems longer, and it doesn't have the groove in the middle continuing that much (the keyway seems to end at the last wafer/position 😊)
@@docontra4921 i think 3 positions isn't too bad Locks don't need to be pick proof Just harder than breaking a window Also there is still an immobilizer in place so the car can't really be stolen easily
@@einstijn138 My worry is (mostly) tangential for lock picking, it's about low(er) amount of unique keys. However, I've heard stories about a car in my country in the mid 80's that had a grand total of six unique door lock cylinders but not much about crime (more about owners who locked their keys in the car grateful and dismayed when the owner of another equivalent car who knew this fact went with their car keys and opened the door for them, and one story of "I was in the supermarket parking lot, went to my car, opened the door, sat in it, felt something was off, and it turned out it was someone else's car")
@@docontra4921 I think in the 80s that was fair, since there were no electronic locks I haven't used the actual key to open a car in probably over 5 years And the electronic signals are all unique Also most new cars require the electronic signal to start, so you couldn't drive away with someone else's car
The advert that came in for YOUR channel… Van-Moof e-bikes “practically unspeakable”… that sounds like the cheekiest product placement and cannot be left unchallenged.
In Montreal they just winch the car up ramps into the back of a box truck. Takes 30 seconds with a skilled team. The car is in a shipping container on the docks within 45 minutes. Still, impressive lock.
And they'd still have to defeat this same mechanism eventually to get it started, plus the immobilizer system which(as of right now) requires NASTF accreditation to process the programming code. Unless they just completely hack away at the electronics until it starts.
@Brad T A lot of car theft are casing out cars and with a rfdi reader antenna, laptop and the right software they can clone the rfdi signal from your keyfob to your car providing they are close enough and can bypass the security system and then duplicate the key fob later.
That looks like pretty good "standard" security to me. Special tool requirements, plus knowing what you are doing, is way harder than breaking a window. So, if no one is willing to brute force it, I'm pretty sure you are the only person who will be able to get in.
The Toyota Dealer has cut new keys for my 2019 Rav4 using my vin number. Not sure why someone would go through so much work replacing the lock cylinder and new key programming to the car... really great video LPL
Maybe because he lost the keys close to his house and doesn't want to risk someone stealing his car? It's a common thing driving around neighborhoods using the remote unlock/lock button to see if any lights flash..
As someone who have never picked a car lock ever I am thrilled to know that if I ever have to pick a RAV4 I know where to get the proper tool to do so. And as always, it was a pleasure to watch this video and have a nice day.
Toyota RAV4 owners : *"We're not in danger"* LPL : *"With the right tool comes great responsibility"* Toyota RAV4 owners : **chuckles* *"We're in danger"*
I know it's been commented on before but, DUDE ,THE CAMERA! It's clear, auto-focus and effortless macro capabilities are taken for granted on this channel. I don't need a video but, maybe you could list the model in your description?
Unfortunately the 2020 RAV4 has a very advanced immobilizer system. I'm an auto locksmith and we have to send out requests with the customers license and reg to Toyota every programming session to get a programming code. You can turn the key in the cylinder as much as you like but the fuel pump is disabled until the immobilizer system is disarmed.
I'm a Toyota tech. I agree that the immobilizer is going to stop attempts to drive off. Toyota actually increased the length of time and number of steps it takes us to program and cut the keys a few years ago. After some GM dealers in California were having reports of customer vehicles driven off after having service work done. Seems those techs were cutting and programming or cloning keys that were then used to steal said vehicles by other parties. We have a managers involvement in every key job now, and that goes for every Toyota dealer.
I would regard that as a win for Toyota to be honest - seems a pretty good lock to secure a vehicle at a reasonable price point and with many key combinations etc. Takes good skill and special tools to pick. LPL is an absolute Boss.
This is definitely a more complex waffer lock, but I really like the videos where he actually picks and teaches you different things/styles vs him using a different Lishi pick over and over. I get it, they have one for most every common vehicle these days. But still my favorite lock picker to watch. His videos have helped me out many times on jobs that i run into a wall. Thanks man keep up the great work!
Honestly I get a lot out info viewing the feedback which you can see clearly on a LIshi tool, most of that you can't see on a video with traditional picking.
Shout-out to Toyota for still using keyed ignitions in some trims of some models, unlike Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/RAMs which are being stolen and started by hackers without any picking or key used at all
Toyota famously had a safety issue where the pedals would get stuck in the carpet. The only safe escape was to turn off the engine, and a mechanical ignition key makes this work even if the computer fails.
@@johndododoe1411 I've tried shutting off our 2005 Toyota while in drive and it won't let you, there's some mechanical interlock. If the throttle gets stuck you have to shift into neutral which you can do while in drive then you can shut it off, shifting into neutral also will stop acceleration too
@@fabioalvescorrea im the sender, i knew he would get them open, just figured it would be cool to send him some really new car locks and see what diffrent challenges they pose
Don't know much about locks nor care about lock picking. However, seeing your skill, experience and dedication to a craft just makes me admire your videos. Should be an example for everyone to try to do their jobs better, whatever that may be.
@@_Shay_ forget breaking the window. I do roadside assistance and I can get into that car damage free with an air wedge through the door in about the same time LpL did his thing. You are correct no car thief is picking this lock. Either is your local tow company.
I remember my first car. It was 126P FSO (fiat maluch). The door opened and closed with a coin or even long nail. The lock was so rusted it as basically useless. The only lock I've ever opened nondestructivly (in a way) without a key.
The Fiat 126 itself is the biggest deterrent to being stolen! Mine had a max speed of 65mph, the word 'joyride' just doesn't apply. I had a UK-made Austin Metro which would also open to any screwdriver or 1p coin; glad times have moved on !
I have not had need to open a RAV4 of this year but I will assume that the system is the same as Prius and Camry of the same model set. If you just need to open the vehicle to recover the keys or to release the child locked inside, (locking your keys in is possible if it is lower entry level model), an air wedge and basic lockout tool set is probably easier than picking. All that aside, over the years I did AA breakdown service, we had the opportunity to buy these picks for use on callouts. They were not supplied as a standard part of job and I never got to buy my own for financial reasons. I did get to use a variety of pick sets that I borrowed off other drivers. I really like these picks, they are great if there is no time pressure from the owner to get their car open and we can be left alone to practice. If there is time pressure to open the vehicle; i.e. child trapped inside in high temperatures, the basic answer is masking tape and dot punch at best. As LPL has stated, being able to pick this lock will get the door open. It will not bypass the antitheft systems by itself.
Yeah wedging the door open always runs the risk of damaging it. Bending the door scratching the paint etc. I believe this is the least destructive method which i think is the point here. I also have had to replace ingition cylinders on cars where the key has been lost and it needs to be turned for that so this would save a lot of money instead of having to replace the whole assembly.
I nearly skipped this one after dismissing it as just a normal car lock opened easily with the matching Lishi tool. It was only from glancing at the comments I realized it was something far harder than normal, and a video that had to be watched and enjoyed.
Our Rav 4 notices when the key fob is right out side the door and unlocks for you. It works on both driver and passenger side. There is a little key built into the fob incase the fob battery goes and you need to unlock the drivers door to get in. Personally that was some picking you did though. Those tools are becoming more and more complex. Back in the good old days you could pick the hand cuffs with a paper clip.
As if I still had the fine motor skills, the hearing the, patience to do this. Meh, I got tools. Although, I very much love that people can do this. And this man is a maestro of locks.
I like how LPL's "a bit more effort" + "not much of a challenge" = No F-ing way for normal people Remember the door lock is just a deterrent, the car has multiple windows so if someone wants to get in, it WILL happen. If it is easier to replace a window than pick the car door... THIS is why a friend of mine (who used to steal cars for a LIVING) told me the best anti theft device was the Club. Not because it was hard to pick(I seem to remember LPL opening one in a few seconds) but because the car next to yours wouldn't have one and no thief would bother with a car that was that much harder to steal. So is a Rav4 worth the effort to pick this lock? "Probably not" in the mind of the normal, run-of-the-mill car thief. Still an awesome video.
Yeah i think the point of these tools is for mechanics and locksmiths to be able to get into the vehicle with the least damage done. Seems like most of the cars stolen in my area nowadays people will snatch it with a tow truck, and if just trying to get in will smash the windows.
Meanwhile, my grandpa once accidentally unlocked the wrong car with his car key, he had a 1989 VW Jetta, and an identical one just happened to park next to him lol
Toyota's inside-out wafer locks are a good deterrent. You need a specialized tool, you gotta pick it twice, and it takes the LPL a couple minutes to get into it. A determined thief will bust a window, and a casual thief will look for something easier. It does exactly what it needs to do.
Mr. LPL, your channel is a must-watch for me, and I thoroughly enjoy every video you post. I do have an ask for you--could you show some picking in "real life" settings? Holding the lock in your hand or clamping it in a vice is cool, but what about a deadbolt in a door with clearance issues, or a car lock that is actually in a car door? How do those conditions impact pickability and the time it takes to pick a lock? Just wondering if you'd be willing to show your skills and techniques in those settings. Again, thank you so much for your videos, and keep up the outstanding work! Be safe, be well.
He has picked a few locks that weren't under controlled conditions(IE vid 1071) but, generally it's not considered a good idea to do so because if something goes wrong you could damage the lock internally or cosmetically. As far as picking a lock with "clearance issues" or other environmental difficulties are concerned, I believe he stated previously that you "just deal with it".
I've commented a few times about this too. Sometimes his hands would technically be inside the door he would pick. Or when he holds a lock in his hands, that angle would never happen in real life. But I remind myself it's just for demonstration and to get the best camera angle you have to be in a controlled environment. Still, I would like to see more field trips from LPL.
I don't recall the number, but his 2020(?) April Fools video about "Getting into my ex-girlfriend's backdoor" has him picking a lock mounted in a door. It's interesting to see how he picks a lock "in the wild" but only if you can get past the staggering amount of innuendo and double entendre that video has. EDIT: It's 1071 that someone above referenced.
The car door lock in a vice already does a pretty freaking good job simulating a real life scenario. It’s in a vice that’s not going anywhere just like it being on a shut car door.
Another thing to keep in mind is the camera location and whatever tripod or mount that he is having to reach around. And considering how crisp the focus is on all of his video's, I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't also looking through the camera viewfinder the entire time he filming.
thanks for opening my locks, kind of an intresting tool as well, didnt think theyd be any more complicated than other brands. i oughta buy one of those tools in case i lock myself out of a customer car sometime
I wish he would do more in the field videos. The clothes I seen was a door mock up. Doing 90% of your videos as a desk where the lock isn't even in use doesn't push the limits of your abilities.
He has mentioned a handful of times that one of the core tenets of the locksport community is never pick a lock in use, primarily for damage and consent reasons. He probably won't do much of that on camera.
@@thecybermind the padlocks could be on a chain around a pipe. I saw one lock that went to a trailer hitch that would have the ether have you laying on your back on the ground, or reaching around the hitch and picking the lock while it is faceing away from you so you are picking blind.
i just couldn't pick this lock for the love of God. But after your video it made sense, and was able to pick it. Just couldn't thank you enough. However in UK, being a right hand drive, lock is anti-clockwise. So it was starting with B track and the after the eight turn it was only A track to fully open and bring back to home position. Thank very much. It is definitely one of the hardest. I thought HON66 was hard, but Gee TOY48. Thank you.
Would love to see some longer videos again. Maybe some short bursts of challenge locks or revisits on some key/lock history and development. And definitely looking forward to this year's April fools video. My gf and I have watched the last few years and we're always in stitches.
Would you be willing to do a couple videos where you take the cores apart and explain how they work? I work at a hardware store and make a lot of copies of regular keys and car keys. Watching your videos helped me understand how locks worked and made it easier to cut keys and not mess them up as often. We mess up a lot of car keys though and it would help to know how the different lock types work
Your car is extremely hard to steal. The immobilizer system is difficult even for my professional automotive locksmith equipment to program. Rest well my friend
Thank you, @LockPickingLawyer! From Mayagüez, Puerto Rico! This helped me get into my ex-wife's car to extract a Lap Top that could have jeopardized me in court. Sending massive love and support for what you do! , Never Stop! God bless you and your loved ones and family members.
they actually changed the lock striker used in the doors for the 2021 version because of this and the fact that upon collision, the door would open instead of staying shut 👍🏻
Thank you very much for continuing to give petty thieves and criminals quick and easy information and access to tools that allow them to efficiently and easily steal property. You're doing a great thing for the world, big guy!
I'm slowly starting to believe he's not a lawyer after all. If he were he'd litigate the locks into opening. The fact that it requires picking on the way out makes it, as stated, a bit more difficult. High praise from the LPL.
Based upon what I see here - it took the LPL a bit of an effort with a sophisticated tool - Toyota's locks look to be pretty good. Judging by the time it took the LPL to open the lock, a less talented thief will have a challenge. Potentially even here in Chicago where it takes the police forever to show up, it looks like it's going to be a challenge for someone to break in before the cops show up.
Toyota stamps the key cut code on their cylinders so you should only need to pick it if you are doing it for the sport. Yes in some cases picking may be faster but you may also get a miscut and that cost money.
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wow. The tool needs five distinct levers and the lock has to be picked twice to get opened. That and "This lock took a _bit_ more effort than most auto locks ..." is practically glowing praise
Yet he ends "With the right tools, these locks are not much of a challenge".
I bought my wife this car! Glad to see the locks are holding up alright 😅
@@gilliamdelauw1693 well that's true for just about any lock.
@@gilliamdelauw1693 yeah he preceded that by saying "as with almost any case..." So yeah. The best lock I've seen is the 🏍️ lock where you have to have surgeon's hands in order to pick it. And takes a long time to pick.
Don't forget it need to be picked to close it
So I just need to buy some Rav4 door locks and my house will have better security than most? Nice.
that insight is a really good one 😂
Another good reason to start living in the car.
Yeah, but how much is that tow going to cost if your house doesn't start? 😺
Not really. You house is just a vulnerable as before. Thieves will go in from the window regardless what locks you use. It's the fastest and most reliable way of breaking in. But in case you lock yourself out, it will take you longer to get back in.
As long as you have a glass window they're going in that way.
Considering a window is easier to "pick open", I think this lock is adequate.
Call that a forced entry
Did you say brick open?
@@BrandMalone24 Why would at thief care, they are not getting past the immobilizer anyway, so at that point they are just trying to grab something of value inside the car and go of with it.
Pick *a rock* and *break* open
@@jakobrosenqvist4691 car alarms
Had a cool experience this past weekend, went on a simple residential re-key job and the customer kept asking me questions like “Can you put some spool pins in my kwikset lock to toughen it up against lock pickers?” I laughed and asked where he knew about top pins from and he said “I have no idea about locksmithing/lockpicking but I LOVE watching LPL’s videos!” Gotta love it.
I believe that's actually the longest it took to pick a car lock. Giving that you have to deal with immobilizer as well it seems quite good.
I think there's a few that go past the five minute mark, but I can't remember, because a lot of his longer videos have him disassembling the lock at the end.
The Subaru lock was pretty good too, that's a 5+ min video
He should pick a Honda lock, you have to pick it twice to actually read bitting, then a third time to reset the lock back to neutral.
You have to remember its a car door lock, most criminals will just smash and grab in reality
If you can get into the vehicle without being detected, the immobilizer is the easy part, assuming you have the knowledge. Sitting in a vehicle legitimizes you to a casual observer.
Any bad guy interested enough to pick a lock like this will just go through the window, I would call that lock a success for its intended purpose. Great video as always!
that is when you use a car alarm, so that it wakes up the neighborhood. I had my window rolled down all the way, so I just reached in and pulled up the switch. It thought I was stealing my own car. There I am reading the owners manual trying to figure out how to turn it off. Meanwhile the alarm is blaring and everyone in the store parking lot is looking at me like I'm an idiot.
@@thecookiemaker Fyi, you usually just need to press Unlock on the remote.
Boosted cars are worth more if there's little damage to fix. Though, as LPL said, there's still the immobilizer to deal with.
@@WhiteWolfDarkpaw I wonder if cars as a service will become a thing so even if you steal a car... its wasn't yours and destroying it will be worthless because all the commodity parts will be black boxes that are serial registered and deactivate if misused or stolen. God I can't wait for our dystopian future where owning nothing is the best deterrent towards thieves. In California.
@@TheQuark6789 I didn't have a remote for the car. I bought it used and it didn't have one. I had to put the key in the ignition turn it to the on position, but not start it and then turn it off and take the key out. Then I could put the key in normally and start it.
I own a Rav4 and was like "oh fuck" when I saw LPL having done a video on it's locks. Pleasantly surprised by the pick resistance. About 2 minutes to pick and using a specific specialized tool. That's like gold medal stuff.
I just bought a 2022 RAV4 and had a sigh of relief. lol
The specialized tool isn't required. It just makes it easier to visualize what the pick movements mean. It's still respectable by the admittedly low standards other auto locks have set.
Was there ever a RAV 1/2/3? Or did they just go straight to 4
@@j.a.r.family2576 The 4 is for 4-wheel drive. I don't believe a RAV2 exists.
@@CptJistuce and to be fair, the specialised tool needed to go through a car lock is a screwdriver or a brick for the window
I like how in reference to the immobilizer, the statement is “we can’t do that on video” rather than simply “we can’t do that.”
I wonder why we can’t do that on video.
@@paladin656 please tell me you're being sarcastic?
@@ashmaybe9634 idk much about cars, can you explain?
@@MxDiagnosis Because it requires a complete and functional car. You either own it, or you're stealing it.
it wouldn't surprise me that if you had the skill to overcome the immobilizer, you could probably also have the car unlock itself. I've heard on some vehicles the CAN bus or similar isn't so hard to get to externally
I have been a locksmith (owner) since 03/91...I have always been very good and always learning at picking locks. I have only become aware of this Channel about 3 years ago and it has both enlightened me and confirmed things for me.
I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE SOME 'IN THE FIELD ' applications of these picking procedures, when the blizzard is packing snow behind your ears and your fingers are numb, in the dark, and just the frustrated client to hold the flashlight.
Wow. You've been locksmithing since I was born. Happy 31 years next month. Hope your business is doing well! I'm sure you've been on some interesting jobs.
@@NickStewartProgrammer I've been an automotive locksmith for 40 years. We run 120 to 150 calls per week. Guess how many times we pick car locks? If you said zero you would be correct. No need to pick car locks. We use professional tools to open doors. In some odd cases to maybe to get a trunk open. It's not the trunk lock you are picking but the door to disable the alarm that's keeping the trunk from opening. Usually you can pull the lock anyway and manipulate the latch. Most guys who are using a Lishi use it to decode the lock to cut a key. To be honest we don't have time to for that being so busy. We stopped pulling locks years ago unless it's quick and easy. We pay for key codes and pass that on to the customer. They would pay the same price for our labor so it's not more money. We try to work smarter. Picking locks if you are an automotive locksmith would be a very little used skill. I impressioned locks back in day. That is an entirely different skill set. Also pretty useless on modern cars.
Watching you apply your knowledge is like watching an elite sportsman applying his trade! Brilliant work.
That was one of most well designed locks that took a lot of skill
The locks he picked that they use for armored vehicles were actually even easier than this lock. Car locks seem to take quite a while to pick.
I suppose the biggest surprise is how recent the model is. Most of the Automotive Lishi tools seem to be only good for older model vehicles - still very common vehicles, but rarely anything under 10 years old. Picking a 2020 year Toyota is quite recent.
Lishi tools are available for almost all the latest vehicles and new ones are released as new vehicles come on the market. You'd be hard pressed to find a car on the road that doesn't have a tool available. But not all of the tools are sold on locksport websites.
This type of lock has been in use by Toyota since at least MY (Model Year) 2015, likely earlier. (Got a South American MY 2015 Corolla manufactured in late 2014 with that lock and similar keyfob -- only difference is that the middle button in mine is the trunk release instead of a panic button).
(And while I do appreciate the faint praise LPL gave this lock and the fact it put a decent fight, the fact that each wafer has only three possible cuts is... disturbing)
EDIT: Just checked my car key; the bidding seems longer, and it doesn't have the groove in the middle continuing that much (the keyway seems to end at the last wafer/position 😊)
@@docontra4921 i think 3 positions isn't too bad
Locks don't need to be pick proof
Just harder than breaking a window
Also there is still an immobilizer in place so the car can't really be stolen easily
@@einstijn138 My worry is (mostly) tangential for lock picking, it's about low(er) amount of unique keys. However, I've heard stories about a car in my country in the mid 80's that had a grand total of six unique door lock cylinders but not much about crime (more about owners who locked their keys in the car grateful and dismayed when the owner of another equivalent car who knew this fact went with their car keys and opened the door for them, and one story of "I was in the supermarket parking lot, went to my car, opened the door, sat in it, felt something was off, and it turned out it was someone else's car")
@@docontra4921 I think in the 80s that was fair, since there were no electronic locks
I haven't used the actual key to open a car in probably over 5 years
And the electronic signals are all unique
Also most new cars require the electronic signal to start, so you couldn't drive away with someone else's car
The advert that came in for YOUR channel… Van-Moof e-bikes “practically unspeakable”… that sounds like the cheekiest product placement and cannot be left unchallenged.
In Montreal they just winch the car up ramps into the back of a box truck. Takes 30 seconds with a skilled team. The car is in a shipping container on the docks within 45 minutes.
Still, impressive lock.
And they'd still have to defeat this same mechanism eventually to get it started, plus the immobilizer system which(as of right now) requires NASTF accreditation to process the programming code. Unless they just completely hack away at the electronics until it starts.
@@MrBrad12435 I think they mostly get parted out overseas.
@Brad T A lot of car theft are casing out cars and with a rfdi reader antenna, laptop and the right software they can clone the rfdi signal from your keyfob to your car providing they are close enough and can bypass the security system and then duplicate the key fob later.
@@hiltonian_1260 this is the best explanation
I have been missing the videos where you open locks with just junk like red bull cans because they are pretty funny.
[1408] Toyota RAV4 Door Lock Picked with a Wire Hanger
Nose picked with indexfinger
He’s gotta sell this stuff
They'd be funny if the attack hadn't been well-known for literal decades. There was a point to using a drink can, and it wasn't humor.
That looks like pretty good "standard" security to me. Special tool requirements, plus knowing what you are doing, is way harder than breaking a window. So, if no one is willing to brute force it, I'm pretty sure you are the only person who will be able to get in.
The Toyota Dealer has cut new keys for my 2019 Rav4 using my vin number. Not sure why someone would go through so much work replacing the lock cylinder and new key programming to the car... really great video LPL
Maybe because he lost the keys close to his house and doesn't want to risk someone stealing his car? It's a common thing driving around neighborhoods using the remote unlock/lock button to see if any lights flash..
@@herpaderpa0 as you stated, or the customer had a faulty door lock in their vehicle. Toyota door locks are SO easy to change out.
Or the customer's concern was more the keyfob was stolen and feels the need to rekey the car.
As someone who have never picked a car lock ever I am thrilled to know that if I ever have to pick a RAV4 I know where to get the proper tool to do so. And as always, it was a pleasure to watch this video and have a nice day.
He is evolving 😱
What an entertaining pick! Love how the tool visualizes the pick for us.
Toyota RAV4 owners : *"We're not in danger"*
LPL : *"With the right tool comes great responsibility"*
Toyota RAV4 owners : **chuckles* *"We're in danger"*
With cars the biggest danger is always that they'll break your windows to steal whatever attractive stuff they might see you've left on the seats.
@@coladict So we just need to get rid of windows. With how many people drive these days, I can't see that changing much.
I know it's been commented on before but, DUDE ,THE CAMERA! It's clear, auto-focus and effortless macro capabilities are taken for granted on this channel. I don't need a video but, maybe you could list the model in your description?
Back in the 60's my dad said "locks only keep honest people out." I've never forgotten. Love ya stuff young man. Cheers Ausgranny 🤶🇦🇺🇦🇺👍👍👍👍👍
Forget hot-wiring, he’s just gonna pick the ignition and drive off!
Unfortunately the 2020 RAV4 has a very advanced immobilizer system. I'm an auto locksmith and we have to send out requests with the customers license and reg to Toyota every programming session to get a programming code. You can turn the key in the cylinder as much as you like but the fuel pump is disabled until the immobilizer system is disarmed.
Of course this comes with a $65 charge per in-out code processed, but then again we can charge $300 a key whereas the dealer is around $400-500.
@@MrBrad12435 That does not sound very unfortunate at all.
@@SamiNami it's great! Just makes my job a pain sometimes haha
I'm a Toyota tech. I agree that the immobilizer is going to stop attempts to drive off. Toyota actually increased the length of time and number of steps it takes us to program and cut the keys a few years ago. After some GM dealers in California were having reports of customer vehicles driven off after having service work done. Seems those techs were cutting and programming or cloning keys that were then used to steal said vehicles by other parties. We have a managers involvement in every key job now, and that goes for every Toyota dealer.
This man is giving the younger generation multiple ways to make a lucrative career!
I would regard that as a win for Toyota to be honest - seems a pretty good lock to secure a vehicle at a reasonable price point and with many key combinations etc. Takes good skill and special tools to pick. LPL is an absolute Boss.
What a particularly cool tool. I can always appreciate a well engineered tool.
This is definitely a more complex waffer lock, but I really like the videos where he actually picks and teaches you different things/styles vs him using a different Lishi pick over and over. I get it, they have one for most every common vehicle these days. But still my favorite lock picker to watch. His videos have helped me out many times on jobs that i run into a wall. Thanks man keep up the great work!
Honestly I get a lot out info viewing the feedback which you can see clearly on a LIshi tool, most of that you can't see on a video with traditional picking.
A 3:25 minute video with lockpicking skills: Well ABOVE my pay grade, even with proper tools. - BRAVO
Definitely good enough for a car. If someone wants to get into your car, they won't bother with locks anyway.
Things have come a long way since the days when a popsicle stick could open a car door.
At a few km/s, it still can.
@@queazocotal the only road legal vehicle in space is the Tesla roadster. So only Tesla needs to take that consideration into account.
Shout-out to Toyota for still using keyed ignitions in some trims of some models, unlike Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/RAMs which are being stolen and started by hackers without any picking or key used at all
it is JUST the emergency door key....
My daughter just bought a 2022 Corolla. Keyless everything.
Toyota famously had a safety issue where the pedals would get stuck in the carpet. The only safe escape was to turn off the engine, and a mechanical ignition key makes this work even if the computer fails.
@@johndododoe1411 I've tried shutting off our 2005 Toyota while in drive and it won't let you, there's some mechanical interlock. If the throttle gets stuck you have to shift into neutral which you can do while in drive then you can shut it off, shifting into neutral also will stop acceleration too
@@kimcelarmycx229 Oops!
Toyota mechanic: “I have a challenge for you, LPL.”
LPL after alleged challenge: “Is that all you got?”
@@acknowledgedofalltheconseq366 yes he did. LPL pulled through 😎
LPL: I've picked that funny lock you sent me in 2 minutes, still waiting for the challenge.
@@fabioalvescorrea im the sender, i knew he would get them open, just figured it would be cool to send him some really new car locks and see what diffrent challenges they pose
@@toomanytoyotas2301 I definitely enjoyed the video and thank you for giving LPL the content! That lock looked challenging, though.
Don't know much about locks nor care about lock picking. However, seeing your skill, experience and dedication to a craft just makes me admire your videos. Should be an example for everyone to try to do their jobs better, whatever that may be.
This is our car and I feel pretty good now about it! Took LPL actual effort to get it open!
Car thieves don’t pick the locks lol
Why take minutes to pick the lock when you can just take a few seconds and break the window.
@@_Shay_ forget breaking the window. I do roadside assistance and I can get into that car damage free with an air wedge through the door in about the same time LpL did his thing. You are correct no car thief is picking this lock. Either is your local tow company.
I remember my first car. It was 126P FSO (fiat maluch). The door opened and closed with a coin or even long nail. The lock was so rusted it as basically useless. The only lock I've ever opened nondestructivly (in a way) without a key.
The Fiat 126 itself is the biggest deterrent to being stolen! Mine had a max speed of 65mph, the word 'joyride' just doesn't apply. I had a UK-made Austin Metro which would also open to any screwdriver or 1p coin; glad times have moved on !
I have not had need to open a RAV4 of this year but I will assume that the system is the same as Prius and Camry of the same model set.
If you just need to open the vehicle to recover the keys or to release the child locked inside, (locking your keys in is possible if it is lower entry level model), an air wedge and basic lockout tool set is probably easier than picking.
All that aside, over the years I did AA breakdown service, we had the opportunity to buy these picks for use on callouts.
They were not supplied as a standard part of job and I never got to buy my own for financial reasons.
I did get to use a variety of pick sets that I borrowed off other drivers.
I really like these picks, they are great if there is no time pressure from the owner to get their car open and we can be left alone to practice.
If there is time pressure to open the vehicle; i.e. child trapped inside in high temperatures, the basic answer is masking tape and dot punch at best.
As LPL has stated, being able to pick this lock will get the door open. It will not bypass the antitheft systems by itself.
Yeah wedging the door open always runs the risk of damaging it. Bending the door scratching the paint etc. I believe this is the least destructive method which i think is the point here. I also have had to replace ingition cylinders on cars where the key has been lost and it needs to be turned for that so this would save a lot of money instead of having to replace the whole assembly.
I nearly skipped this one after dismissing it as just a normal car lock opened easily with the matching Lishi tool. It was only from glancing at the comments I realized it was something far harder than normal, and a video that had to be watched and enjoyed.
Our Rav 4 notices when the key fob is right out side the door and unlocks for you. It works on both driver and passenger side. There is a little key built into the fob incase the fob battery goes and you need to unlock the drivers door to get in. Personally that was some picking you did though. Those tools are becoming more and more complex. Back in the good old days you could pick the hand cuffs with a paper clip.
Yea cars have had all that for the last 10+ years.
This is where the subtleties of a brick thru the window work best.
Just wanted to say, I got your starter kit over on Covert Instruments for Christmas and I'm loving it!
While one thief was trying to pick the lock, another just rolled up and stole your catalytic converter.
Honestly it doesn’t even matter if he doesn’t show himself ever. His voice is so distinct if you heard him talk you would know it’s TLPL lol
Every video I watch of his just makes me get sooo Paranoid everywhere I go and makes me not believe any kind of lock
As if I still had the fine motor skills, the hearing the, patience to do this. Meh, I got tools. Although, I very much love that people can do this. And this man is a maestro of locks.
As a RAV 4 owner, I was concerned when I saw this video title. Now that I watched the video, I feel a little better.
I like how LPL's "a bit more effort" + "not much of a challenge" = No F-ing way for normal people
Remember the door lock is just a deterrent, the car has multiple windows so if someone wants to get in, it WILL happen. If it is easier to replace a window than pick the car door...
THIS is why a friend of mine (who used to steal cars for a LIVING) told me the best anti theft device was the Club. Not because it was hard to pick(I seem to remember LPL opening one in a few seconds) but because the car next to yours wouldn't have one and no thief would bother with a car that was that much harder to steal. So is a Rav4 worth the effort to pick this lock? "Probably not" in the mind of the normal, run-of-the-mill car thief. Still an awesome video.
Yeah i think the point of these tools is for mechanics and locksmiths to be able to get into the vehicle with the least damage done. Seems like most of the cars stolen in my area nowadays people will snatch it with a tow truck, and if just trying to get in will smash the windows.
Try watching his videos in full screen but holding it upright. It’s an entirely new way of watching them and I like it way more
The most reliable car brand with the most reliable car lock.
Meanwhile, my grandpa once accidentally unlocked the wrong car with his car key, he had a 1989 VW Jetta, and an identical one just happened to park next to him lol
Toyota's inside-out wafer locks are a good deterrent. You need a specialized tool, you gotta pick it twice, and it takes the LPL a couple minutes to get into it.
A determined thief will bust a window, and a casual thief will look for something easier. It does exactly what it needs to do.
Mr. LPL, your channel is a must-watch for me, and I thoroughly enjoy every video you post. I do have an ask for you--could you show some picking in "real life" settings? Holding the lock in your hand or clamping it in a vice is cool, but what about a deadbolt in a door with clearance issues, or a car lock that is actually in a car door? How do those conditions impact pickability and the time it takes to pick a lock? Just wondering if you'd be willing to show your skills and techniques in those settings. Again, thank you so much for your videos, and keep up the outstanding work! Be safe, be well.
He has picked a few locks that weren't under controlled conditions(IE vid 1071) but, generally it's not considered a good idea to do so because if something goes wrong you could damage the lock internally or cosmetically.
As far as picking a lock with "clearance issues" or other environmental difficulties are concerned, I believe he stated previously that you "just deal with it".
I've commented a few times about this too. Sometimes his hands would technically be inside the door he would pick. Or when he holds a lock in his hands, that angle would never happen in real life. But I remind myself it's just for demonstration and to get the best camera angle you have to be in a controlled environment. Still, I would like to see more field trips from LPL.
I don't recall the number, but his 2020(?) April Fools video about "Getting into my ex-girlfriend's backdoor" has him picking a lock mounted in a door. It's interesting to see how he picks a lock "in the wild" but only if you can get past the staggering amount of innuendo and double entendre that video has.
EDIT: It's 1071 that someone above referenced.
The car door lock in a vice already does a pretty freaking good job simulating a real life scenario. It’s in a vice that’s not going anywhere just like it being on a shut car door.
Another thing to keep in mind is the camera location and whatever tripod or mount that he is having to reach around. And considering how crisp the focus is on all of his video's, I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't also looking through the camera viewfinder the entire time he filming.
thanks for opening my locks, kind of an intresting tool as well, didnt think theyd be any more complicated than other brands. i oughta buy one of those tools in case i lock myself out of a customer car sometime
Special tool needed, with exceeding skill. Even so, vehicle is still immobilised. Safer than most houses I would say.
I wish he would do more in the field videos. The clothes I seen was a door mock up. Doing 90% of your videos as a desk where the lock isn't even in use doesn't push the limits of your abilities.
He has mentioned a handful of times that one of the core tenets of the locksport community is never pick a lock in use, primarily for damage and consent reasons. He probably won't do much of that on camera.
@@thecybermind the padlocks could be on a chain around a pipe. I saw one lock that went to a trailer hitch that would have the ether have you laying on your back on the ground, or reaching around the hitch and picking the lock while it is faceing away from you so you are picking blind.
Vex in Riften has taught you well the art of lock picking.
Opens lock up and gets slammed in the face with the brand “master lock” 😂 great videos!
i just couldn't pick this lock for the love of God. But after your video it made sense, and was able to pick it. Just couldn't thank you enough. However in UK, being a right hand drive, lock is anti-clockwise. So it was starting with B track and the after the eight turn it was only A track to fully open and bring back to home position.
Thank very much. It is definitely one of the hardest. I thought HON66 was hard, but Gee TOY48.
Thank you.
The right tool always makes the job SO much easier.
The tape on the window trick is definitely faster than trying to pick this lock, good job Toyota.
what a crazy tool. I can't even keep the geometry in my head as I'm watching it....
I would say any lock that gives him this much trouble is a damn good lock lol
Dude, you've gotten to the point where I know exactly what tool and exactly how you're going to do it just by the thumbnail.
"a tool I sell over at..." "with the right tools..." Ah, I get it now.
“Let’s put this cylinder in a vice and…”
“Okay, cylinder. Drugs, alcohol, or TH-cam rabbit hole?”
LPL is the Bob Ross of locksport.
That's looks like a good lock to me, special tool required and the delicate touch of LPL.
Would love to see some longer videos again. Maybe some short bursts of challenge locks or revisits on some key/lock history and development.
And definitely looking forward to this year's April fools video. My gf and I have watched the last few years and we're always in stitches.
Over 90s to pick? That's ountstanding! Give toyota's engineers a prize!
Would you be willing to do a couple videos where you take the cores apart and explain how they work? I work at a hardware store and make a lot of copies of regular keys and car keys. Watching your videos helped me understand how locks worked and made it easier to cut keys and not mess them up as often. We mess up a lot of car keys though and it would help to know how the different lock types work
Might as well sell my car now that this is out. 😂😅
Where do you live?asking for a friend
Your car is extremely hard to steal. The immobilizer system is difficult even for my professional automotive locksmith equipment to program. Rest well my friend
@@MrBrad12435 glad to know. I don’t anything about my car other than how to turn on the bluetooth and AC and drive. Thanks.
Thank you, @LockPickingLawyer!
From Mayagüez, Puerto Rico!
This helped me get into my ex-wife's car to extract a Lap Top that could have jeopardized me in court.
Sending massive love and support for what you do! , Never Stop!
God bless you and your loved ones and family members.
Remember when picking locks was only something you seen in the movies.
This lock's greatest weakness is the glass window
they actually changed the lock striker used in the doors for the 2021 version because of this and the fact that upon collision, the door would open instead of staying shut 👍🏻
Don't forget to buy an OBD II lock as most cars today use fobs and locking down this port will help secure your car.
No one is safe in the perimeter of lockpicking lawyer
Awesome video, that key held out for a long time!😸
hes so good at picking these locks
his wife must be a very happy woman
The amount of power This guy has
Best car lock (time to pick) I have seen on here!
Making me wonder why we don't use this sort of lock on houses, seeing how long it took for LPL to pick it and the type of specialist tool required
With right tools no lock is much of a challenge I tell ya
This man doesn't realize he is teaching and helping taught robbers
Toyoda San: Yep when I built sawing machines nobody dared to challenge them!
Man.. I watch movies and I’m like who tf can just pick locks like that…Then I found this channel.
So your pretty good at locks… must mean your a damn good lawyer because u can solve problems all day!!!!
Gone In 60 Seconds II, starring LPL!😄
This seems the best car lock so far! The car in front is a Toyota
With how long it took I'm surprised you didn't have Toyota sponsoring the video.
Thank you very much for continuing to give petty thieves and criminals quick and easy information and access to tools that allow them to efficiently and easily steal property. You're doing a great thing for the world, big guy!
I'm slowly starting to believe he's not a lawyer after all.
If he were he'd litigate the locks into opening.
The fact that it requires picking on the way out makes it, as stated, a bit more difficult. High praise from the LPL.
Poor RAV 4 I still love you.
This is one of the longest LPL videos outthere, that says alot
Great video as always. Also - happy Lunar New Year!
Picked faster than I can make a good cuppa tea, these locks need to try harder.
"Since we can't do that on video" - I see what you did there...
Based upon what I see here - it took the LPL a bit of an effort with a sophisticated tool - Toyota's locks look to be pretty good. Judging by the time it took the LPL to open the lock, a less talented thief will have a challenge. Potentially even here in Chicago where it takes the police forever to show up, it looks like it's going to be a challenge for someone to break in before the cops show up.
The real challenge is lockpicking this outdoors and at a vertical angle
Toyota stamps the key cut code on their cylinders so you should only need to pick it if you are doing it for the sport. Yes in some cases picking may be faster but you may also get a miscut and that cost money.
"since we cant do it in this video...." Dammit Hes not revealing his secret technique