The reason for holding on to Bahkmut as long as possible, was to save many other towns from the same fate. the longer the fight went on, the more the Russians centered their propaganda on Bahkmut. Now they will choke on this bone in their throat
@@nicolaasstempels8207 I partially agree with you, the two main reasons are given by you and by @roli404. Either one by itself would not have been enough, but the combination most definitely was.
@@nicolaasstempels8207 They attrituned their own forces. They lost 3-1 and they were on the defensive. No military can survive that attrition rate, especially after they go on the attack and lose another 30 thousand in less than 6 weeks... and that isn't including wounded.
Getting the russians to chose Bakhmut in the first place was achieved by a series of cunning rouses. It was no accident. Ukraine engineered it. It was the most heavily fortified area in the region yet the russians chose to attack there, when there were literally dozens of other cities they could have chosen. Ever ask yourself why? They fell for it completely.
As the capture of Bahkmut has been the only Russian 'victory' of this war, its re-taking by Ukraine will be a massive humiliation for Putin. Well worth doing for that alone.
Funny that you made to believe that the Russians are losing, Hey this channels are propaganda spreading lies on the real situation. Ukranians are finished, some foreign are trying to flee coz they cant stand the on slaught of the Russians. What you are hearing on this interview is the opposite...hahaha
The psychological aspect of war should never be underestimated, but most often is. Zelensky made the right call. He lured the russians into focusing on Bakmut, and was able to greatly increase russian attrition there. He took a huge front line and reduced it to what his tropps and logistics could manage. Now russia is drained, and Ukraine has a respectable depth to its offensive capability.
The importance of Bahkmut to the ukranians is not in reclaiming the land but it is what this defeat would mean to the Russian military and the moral of the Russian soldiers . Putin would of course react and there would be more upheaval in the Russian MOD with sackings etc which will destabilise the southern front.
Politically, Russia can't let Bahkmut go. That means 'someone' has to defend it and eat whatever gets sent their way from Ukraine because the Tsar wills it, so the command needs it and his commander in the field won't argue the point. If that person has to be there, he can't be somewhere strategically useful. Much like the taking of the city costs tens of thousands of dead russians, holding it could potentially cost the same if the political will to stay in the blasted hellscape is there to keep funneling the meat in.
You are right. The humiliation Putin will feel if he loses Bakhmut is bad enough. But now the contrast of Wagner taking it and Putin losing it will rock all of Russia
Just one little correction, the sacked general "Popov" was commanding the south front which is some 200 km southwest of Bakhmut so he had nothing to do with the Bakhmut casualties
Imagine invading a country, only to destroy your own military and economy. Expand the Western influence on all borders, and ultimately lose previously stolen territory and collapse into a failed terrorist state- well done Putin! 🤣🤣
Wow you people believe any BS the media feeds you. Europe's economies are collapsing... Russia's is booming. And through this process, Russia's military is on the growth from what was 220,000 to become over 1.2 million over the next year. Nato's plans to destroy the Russian military has had the complete opposite effect. Russia is getting stronger, way stronger... because the west are led by complete idiots. All they had to do was keep their noses out of Ukraine... but they couldn't help themselves.
Wagners took credit for occupying Bakhmut. Prighozin even predicted the Russian army wouldn't be able to hold it. Zelensky seems to be trying to humiliate Putin.
Poor Karen. It absolutely is in the west. Even all the Russian lies are allowed, never heard of anyone falling from a window in the west for spreading them.
@@ElaineDavey-db3ilYes it is, a lot of countries have very good freedom of speech. It’s just that idiots like russonazis have so twisted idea of truth, that we really do need to fight against such untruthfulness, and for some it may seem that “truth is forbidden”. For them, I say go to school, educate yourself, don’t let people like Putin or Lavrov deceive you with their false history.
Get those cluster munitions that are now in Ukraine to the front line, and start REALLY clearing out the Orc trenches, and that will very likely cause a lot of destabilisation.
@@gbrown9694 Because they are fascists by definition.. Arguably always have been.. We get to see it on social media.. We all know what should be done with Nazis
@@gbrown9694 The difference is in this case it's the Russian's trying to genocide the Ukrainians. All armies will try to dehumanize their enemy, that's just part of war. Like how the Russians call the Ukrainians Khokhol's.
Ukraine must have the finest army of fighting men and women in the world at this stage. The assistance given by GB is to its great credit and history will see it so.
Over 300,000 of them are dead, and just as many wounded. GB has done nothing, they won't even let the challenger tanks into battle because they don't want the world to see them burning like the leopards are.
There have been so many casualties, neither side is giving the real number of men and equipment lost. Some units are probably highly trained and battle hardened but a lot of soldiers have been killed and replaced multiple times if you looked at a single position on the front.
@@KeneticOutdoors Even the pentagon leaked documents stated Ukraine was losing soldiers 8-1 when they were on the defence. That number is way worse since they have begun their offensive's.
funny, the UK governments of the last decade been paid by Putin to destroy the EU.... even that went wrong, the Brits only destroying the UK, the EU is even working closer together now and support the Ukraine... i wonder what the German Nazis, AfD, and the leftists, Die Linke, get from Putler to try to turn over the German government to serve their overlord Putler!
@@Terrysmithsmithonson Utter and complete 100% tosh. The Pentagon released NO such documentary information whatsoever . . you must be the local village bot idiot
@@balaclavabob001 He did once send one of his body doubles within fifty miles of the front line. Then he must have realized what would happen if the double got killed before he was ready to make his escape.
The idea that Prigozhin 'flipped' in desolation at the huge Russian casualties is morbidly amusing. He promoted the 'meat grinder' tactics causing countless casualties. No, it was the prospect of Wagner coming under Russian Military control and personal power-preservation that triggered his mutiny.
I follow a trusted Ukrainian vlogger (he is rarely wrong) who reports from a military perspective. He reported late last evening that the Ukrainian forces have chased out the Chechnyan's from western hills of Klishichiivka, a key strategic area. In brief, the Ukrainians lured them into thinking they were retreating from the immediate hills, they fell for it, got pulverized and the Chechnyan's retreated as they were taking heavy losses. btw as tough as the losses were, I think Zelensky and his military command were/are right to concentrate on Bakhmut for all the reasons stated, and this time around it will bear more fruit if they retake that whole area in an incredible short time compared to how long it took Wagner and Russian forces to take it. That alone will be a huge blow as Russia made this a symbolic win no matter the toll it took on them. And the resulting fall-out in Russia and the leadership although unknown, will most definitely sow the seeds of discontent at the very least.
It's not surprising the Ukrainians are using massive amount of artillery. That's one technique they inherited from the Soviets, who used it to great effect during World War II. The American M777 and French Caesar 155 mm howitzers are probably the best artillery pieces in the world and Ukraine has been supplied with both of them.
The Ukrainians are not using massive amounts in the way the Soviets did at all. A lot of the time, because of the drones and GPS guided munitions, they hit the target in, at most, three shots. The Soviets, like the Russians, would use three hundred. Every shot wears out the gun barrel, decreasing accuracy and range.
Bakmhut is critical, as long as the Russians think so and if Ukrainians can set themselves up in a dominant military position over Bakmhut, then they will reap the benefits.
Bakmhut is critical in draining Orc forces and further demoralising Orc soldiers. Also by pinning down Orcs that have very chance of getting out of there alive unless they surrender.
@@ElaineDavey-db3il No, the Russians are war mongering barbarians. The Ukrainians are fighting for their children's future. They don't want them growing up as white slaves to Russia.
That was some seriously well trained Ukrainians rifleman. I hope everyone they train is on the same level. But even well trained does not always transition into combat awareness that is only gained from experience. "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." ~ John F. Kennedy Ukrainian Minutemen! Godspeed 🇺🇸🇺🇦
From the UKR pov, this ravaged city is no longer about defending a specific patch of soil but about making the invaders pay a greater price for remaining there - wherever "there" may be. So long as the enemy remains huddled there in place, they might as well decimate them there rather than let them move along to destroy some new Ukranian town or city. What was once Bakhmut is as good a place to decimate invaders as any other. It's not about being stubborn over a signpost. It's fairly solid battle tactics.
Zelensky and his Generals got Bakhmut absolutely right, the Western advisors were wrong. The UAF allowed the Russians to think they could capture it, thus giving them the "victory" they so desperately needed, but it's loss would not harm the defence of Ukraine. Once the Russians committed to the attack they just could not admit their mistake and withdraw so kept committing forces they could have better used elsewhere. The Ukrainian Army bled the Russians and slowed/stopped any offensives elsewhere, once Ukraine had the firepower they are encircling the city to trap the troops inside. Its just as if the Russians never thought they might fall victims to the same mistakes as the Germans did at Stalingrad.
**BAKMUT**The taking back of Bakmut would be a devastating blow to Putin and further weaken his grip on power. I argue,would it not be worth sending one or two of those idle mechanized brigades to accelerate the fall of Bakmut?. By sending one to the southern flank and one to the northern flank, maybe for just a week or two, before withdrawing them for the battle south in Zaporhirhizia Oblast. Not only would they consolidate progress to strangle Bakmut , but would force troops away from other fronts , possibly also from the southern front.
WHy since Zelensky sees Bakhmut as a perfect way to inflict a major political defeat on Putin as he touted Bakhmut as a crucial city, fighting over it for 9 months losing 50K casualties on it. The loss of Bakhmut for the Russians will deal a very heavy blow to putin and undermine his regime.
I remember Zelenskyy publicly stating that Bakhmut was the most important city in teh east. He got flak for that back then, as everyone said it wasn't strategically important and all he would achieve would be to bring unwarranted russia attention to the city. Now we know it was massive and cunning rouse. That was the most heavily fortified city in the region so he basically tricked the russians into choosing there (the worst place they could have chosen) to attack.
@@ghostlightx9005 yah and the Russians got lured in and got blasted. yah they took it after 50K casualites and even more, then announced we won, hahahah, they the Ukrs do a stalingrad 2.0 and recapture it with the cherry of a Russian mass surrender hahahaah.
If what we are told about the defensive setup of Russiansis true then the best approach would be to target the 2nd line of defence where the most experienced and better armed Russians are. That will require long distance precision weapons but the pay off will be creating more confusion amongst the enemy rather than facing a stronger defence after wasting a lot of resources to drive back the 1st line who are more scared of their commerads behind them than Ukrainians.
The only thing that will stop Russia is full bodybags arriving home to wives and mothers. It's tragic that innocent Ukrainian defenders and civilians will die as these bags are filled. The west must give Ukraine the tools it needs to carry out this terrible task. Best wishes to Ukraine from Ireland. 🇮🇪💚🇺🇦
Putin and his gangster ghouls are not sending the sons of mothers from St Petersburg and Moscow. They just send slaves or criminals from the 'provinces' the inferior non Russian underclass who don't count or who are totally brainwashed.
Myself and some friends lost our arses on a fishing holiday in the Ukraine thanks to Vladimir and his 'Special Op' We were due in Kherson this month to fish the Dnipro for monster Well's Catfish and Carp. It's no laughing mater. just short of 12 grand between 8 of us. We have had £4500 back off . £7500 has been lost and we agreed that it was a little inappropriate to start jumping up and down about it. The Guilly we hired has lost everything. I hope they can get back to some semblance of normality, sooner rather than later. We thought we had it rough as we watched it all unfold on TV, but we had lost nothing in comparison to these folk. It was booked before the invasion, how were we to know? There was a glimmer of hope until they blew the Dam.Damn you Vladimir.
I agree that Bakhmut as a city may not be overly important. But thing is, when Ukraine succeeds to encircle Bakhmut (as one piece together with the Yakovlivka-Soledar-Bakhmut-Klishivka-pocket), and then in one or the other way neutralizes some 30 or 40 k soldiers, that would cause a Tsunami in Kremlin. Wagner captured Bakhmut after a long fight and handed it over properly to the Russian army and then the Russian army would loose it within a few weeks and brings 40.000 black plastic bags back home. Putin would loose all his credibility even among the dumbest of his followers.
Some people treat this war like a football match. Comments section are full of people trying to put down the otherside and ignore any faults their "team" has.
welcome to War, where everyone devolves into an aggressive ape and beat their chests. You won't find any intelligence or civil discourse here, only cheerleading, bloodlust and mockery on both sides. This is pretty tame however, I've seen far worse on some Indian news TH-cam channels where they also mix in their own nationalism and talk about the Fall of the West.
@@francispeter8169 This war began way before the Feb 2022 invasion. The seeds were sown in the Clinton Era after a disastrous midterm in 1994 and needed a foreign policy win before the 1996 presidential elections. He therefore decided to expand Nato at a time when Russia was not a threat. In fact Russia only rumped up defense spending after the 2008 announcement by Nato on Ukraine and Georgia joining. I am not saying Russia doesn’t bear responsibility for the current situation but the simple and idiotic narrative that it is all Russia is absurd. That narrative prevents any logical resolution of the dispute.
Bakhmut is a gateway. This is the stretch of front line which has the least depth of defense. Once on the other side of Bakhmut there is very little fortification.
I m watching this local channel from atleast 6 month. Everyday they tell russia about to collapse. But we see russia is advancing and ukriane is failing.
You destroy the Russian army of Bakhmut, there is no army left, so then you run out and just occupy most of the rest. This is the focal point to grind down and obliterate the Russian army so nothing remains.
@@ghostlightx9005 "most of the russia forces that are worth a damn" Any qualified military in the RF is still led by the obviously worst Command and Control system on the planet! Decent or even good forces with terrible leadership, no food water or ammo and who are considered expendable cannon fodder is unlikely to have long term success. The dictator and his MOD want them to look good in parades, but in conflict they cease to even be humans, not even numbers as they die.
It makes a lot of sense going after Bakhmut, Russia made a song and dance about its capture, they lost a ton of men and material taking it, they also, unlike the rest of the front line are not set up for defensive positions there after their offensive posture making it comparatively easier to push thru without the need for breaking dug in multiple lines of trenches etc. If it is retaken it would also be quite catastrophic for Russian propaganda and pretty impossible to spin it could be significant in further undermining the perception of Putins strength and quite convincing in terms of the reality that Russia are losing this war.
Kaputin is in trouble! May St Francis of Assisi, St Clare of Assisi and Blessed Carlo Acutis who is buried at Assisi, intercede with the Almighty for an end to this terrible war and for a just peace for Ukraine - no more aggression from Russia, ever! Carlo was born in 1991 - a significant date for Ukraine. May the Archangel Michael and his angels drive out the demons of war from the Kremlin and Russia
Bakhmut only matters because Russia paid so much for it. Ukraine knows Russia will take heavy losses to prevent them taking it back again. So, why not exploit that?
Cluster munition is not very good at clearing trenches, especially trenches with bunkers. For clearing mine fields they are useless. But they are great for taking out troops in the open, light armour and artillery and electronic systems.
The Ukranians are in the process of encircling, or partially encircling Bakmut. This places Putin in a dilemma. Either he orders a withdrawal from Bakmut, which would be a blow to his prestige after spending so effort to capture it; or he tries to defend an untenable position, which will be a meatgrinder for the undersupplied Russian soldiers within the city, under fire from three or maybe four directions. From the Ukrainian point of view, Bakmut has become a trap for Putin.
Whereas in reality, the Russians learn from early deaths and use that to develop strategies and tactics for latter stages of the war. They changed their approaches to German strongholds in WW2 as a direct result of the losses they had in early attempts.
@@kiandrah8517 But this time, Russia are the Fascists, in more ways than one, and this time Ukraine are the ones pushing an enemy invader back from THEIR homeland. We're already a _long_ way from Russia's 'early attempts'.
Bakhmut could easily end up being as costly to Russia as their entire failure in Afghanistan-a failure that was directly related to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Like any other war, the Afghanistan war crippled and injured soldiers (called Afgantsy) who then had to be sent home. By the mid-1980s, there were already about a million Afgantsy in the Soviet Union and they had emerged ‘as a new social force in their own right’. The Afgantsy felt betrayed. Many of them organized into vigilante groups determined to fight the money grubbers and ‘scroungers’ who had sent them to war and were ignoring their existence. By the late 1980s, some Afgantsy had begun organizing themselves politically. The Afghanistan war created conditions for the demilitarization of Soviet society. Something similar could happen again, a division between the army and the Putin regime and between the army and the citizens, which then undermines the legitimacy of the army as a moral institution that is supposed to safeguard the oppressed.
@@kiandrah8517 that may not be a good comparison. They are learning but I am not sure if it is enough. Stalin relaxed control over the army and the generals were given more freedom, is that happening now or are they still rigidly top-down? It seems to me the latter. For now.
🇺🇦 Ukrainian land belongs to the Ukrainian people gives the reason to fight for it Putin has not honoured what was signed in 1991. It is right and honourable for Ukraine to receive assistance and respect from the whole world struth we're in the 21st century previous conflicts should have taught us something to restore peace and respect. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🔱 respect from 🇭🇲 ❤️🕊
When a comedian goes on stage they face hostilities, Zelensky has taken Prigozhin's heckling and seen him walk out the venue, go home and shout at his dad that the funny little man made him cry. The symbolic retreat from Bakhmut of Wagner, Chechens and soon the Russia Army will be massive in Russia. Kremlin top brass is being shuffled and sacked faster than ever and there will be only ONE man left to replace.
All wars boil down to economics. Wars end when one nation is no longer able (edit: or willing) to supply their military with the resources required to fight on successfully. That's why long range strike capability should have been supplied to Ukraine from the very beginning, without any restrictions (they already limit themselves to hitting only military targets). It's great that Ukraine is constantly taking out supply depots 80 miles behind the front lines, but these are small potatoes. What Ukraine must go after is the big stuff! The tank and artillery depots in Russia. Russian shell factories. The plants where Russia assembles and repairs their heavy equipment. The Sukhoi and Mikoyan manufacturing plants should have been turned to ashes long ago, along with every last one of Russia's oil storage facilities. In any other war these would be primary targets, but we don't allow Ukraine to take the gloves off. We do this despite the fact that Russia destroyed all such facilities in Ukraine in the opening months of the war. It's long past time to finally cut off Russia's supply lines at the source!
If I put my cynical hat on, I think the explanation is this: the West did not (and still does not) want the war to end too early. They want it to last a sufficiently long time so that russia's economy will take massive long-term damage so severe that it cannot recover to invade again in future. We are not there yet, though we are close.
It's about economics in wars *between near peers*. That is one of Putin's mistakes, he didn't realize Ukraine had become a near peer during the years between 2014 and 2022. Note economically Ukraine only survives due to massive aid from the West.
@@nicolaasstempels8207 Nitpick: To date, Ukraine has been given the equivalent of 5% of the total military budget of NATO for ONE year. It is not massive aid, it is actually tiny. (Compared to NATO's wealth)
Bahkmut is mostly a PR campaign because Russia made such a big deal out of capturing it Also as long the Ukrainians can continue to inflict 5 or 7 to 1 losses there, there is a good reason to keep fighting in Bahkmut Just wear down the Russian forces in one place and push somewhere not as well defended
Ukraine is not inflcting any loses attacking heavily defended lines, they are just dieing doing that, and losing all their armor and men :( They should surrender.
Why did you personalise the Ukrainian war tactics on Zelinsky. The Ukrainian military leaders will be making the decisions, subject to sign-off or negative instructions by the government. It is not help[ful to personalise it in that way.
Nahhh, Putler will hold on to Bakhmut. He’s happy to expend another 100,000 Russian lives for the glory of Bakhmut and Motherland Russia, and the 100,000 orcs are willing to become heroes for the motherland 😂🤡
So the "offensive" is just the same old thing, no difference at all. No advance, no change of tactics, no surge of personnel, just the same old artillery duel.
The town itself is ‘insignificant,’ but when you study the topography of the region, it is strategically significant. Control Bakmut, and you’re Obi Wan on that high ground. That’s why the russians took such huge losses trying to take it.
@@ghostlightx9005 No it's not... but yes that is what's happening. 90% are killed by artillery, not combat. And Russia outguns Ukraine in magnitudes of artillery, drones, missiles and everything else. Stop believing the BS you tv tells, or thinking what you believe is true because you want it to be. Ukraine is getting slaughtered.
@@ghostlightx9005so you admit Ukraine is taking more loses than Russia right now on their greatest counter offensive? They're the attackers remember and as you said.......right
Look, it's not Putin's nightmare. It's a nightmare for the Ukrainian and Russian Bois that have to fight there. For the higher ups above the field commanders it's just a mark in the map that has changed colour from blue to red.
Ukraine know that Bahkmud is symbolic and will troop men and resources into the resources. As well as retaking it being a massive psychological blow to Russia.
In my opinion, the reasons Ukraine defended bahkmut was because russians were there, it was only strategically important as it kept them there, and ukraine was able to take advantage of the situation to make it a good killing field while they organised elsewhere largely unmolested. The reason ukraine would now want to retake bahkmut is because its the only victory putin/russian forces could tout as a real success, and since the russian military/putin had to spend so much time touting this success to justify the 10 months and tens of thousands of losses, for ukraine to just retake it would be massive blow to russian propaganda and putins credibility, not to mention absolutely devestating to the russian military morale (which is already crushed as it is), not only that but as mentioned ukraine doesn't have to worry about civilians because there's only russians so they can fire away at a safe distance. Russia can't afford to lose the city, so it could very easily become ukraines #1 asset for unaliving russian forces again, as they keep sending people in to try to hold it.
Who wants to bet? The conversation between Putin and Prigozhin DID take place. But it was in a white-tiled room with lots of handy stainless steel utensils. With witnesses who are now back in line…
Guess bakhmuts important to Ukraine now😂 a shame that 43 days into Ukrainian offensive operations and they still haven’t even made it back into the city. Let alone Kliischivka in the south
The reason for holding on to Bahkmut as long as possible, was to save many other towns from the same fate. the longer the fight went on, the more the Russians centered their propaganda on Bahkmut. Now they will choke on this bone in their throat
By sacrifice 70 thousand soldiers.... yeh right.
It was a political decision, not a military one.
I beg to disagree, I think the most important reason to hold Bakhmut for so long was attritting the Muscovy forces.
@@nicolaasstempels8207 I partially agree with you, the two main reasons are given by you and by @roli404. Either one by itself would not have been enough, but the combination most definitely was.
@@nicolaasstempels8207 They attrituned their own forces. They lost 3-1 and they were on the defensive.
No military can survive that attrition rate, especially after they go on the attack and lose another 30 thousand in less than 6 weeks... and that isn't including wounded.
Getting the russians to chose Bakhmut in the first place was achieved by a series of cunning rouses. It was no accident. Ukraine engineered it. It was the most heavily fortified area in the region yet the russians chose to attack there, when there were literally dozens of other cities they could have chosen. Ever ask yourself why? They fell for it completely.
As the capture of Bahkmut has been the only Russian 'victory' of this war, its re-taking by Ukraine will be a massive humiliation for Putin. Well worth doing for that alone.
Cluster munitions will make bakmhut impossible to ressuply forcing Russia to retreat, troop morale won't recover from such humiliation
Exactly! It will sap Russian morale like nothing else.
For a year. Russia has had other victories in this war, but lately it has just taken Bakhmut and that it is.
Funny that you made to believe that the Russians are losing, Hey this channels are propaganda spreading lies on the real situation. Ukranians are finished, some foreign are trying to flee coz they cant stand the on slaught of the Russians. What you are hearing on this interview is the opposite...hahaha
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The psychological aspect of war should never be underestimated, but most often is. Zelensky made the right call. He lured the russians into focusing on Bakmut, and was able to greatly increase russian attrition there. He took a huge front line and reduced it to what his tropps and logistics could manage. Now russia is drained, and Ukraine has a respectable depth to its offensive capability.
You do know Ukraine lost 70k dead soldiers in Bakhmut to Russia slaughtering them.
@@mickser101 No I don't know that. How many dead did Russia have?
@@mickser101 pointless russian propaganda . No potato for you .
@@mickser101 You do know Wagner attempted a coup against Moscow after their dissapointment over how abysmall Russia performed in Bakhmut
Da best part was "now Russia is drain" 😂 u really bought da western media 🤣
The importance of Bahkmut to the ukranians is not in reclaiming the land but it is what this defeat would mean to the Russian military and the moral of the Russian soldiers . Putin would of course react and there would be more upheaval in the Russian MOD with sackings etc which will destabilise the southern front.
Politically, Russia can't let Bahkmut go. That means 'someone' has to defend it and eat whatever gets sent their way from Ukraine because the Tsar wills it, so the command needs it and his commander in the field won't argue the point.
If that person has to be there, he can't be somewhere strategically useful. Much like the taking of the city costs tens of thousands of dead russians, holding it could potentially cost the same if the political will to stay in the blasted hellscape is there to keep funneling the meat in.
You are right. The humiliation Putin will feel if he loses Bakhmut is bad enough. But now the contrast of Wagner taking it and Putin losing it will rock all of Russia
@@ravenmoon5111 And I am pretty sure that Pregozhin will not hesitate the make that very point. VERY loudly.
@@ghostlightx9005 I believe he wants it to happen now. He will make Russia know Putin failed him and Russia
WHat do you dream of when asleep
Just one little correction, the sacked general "Popov" was commanding the south front which is some 200 km southwest of Bakhmut so he had nothing to do with the Bakhmut casualties
The whole thing needs correcting, it's complete fantasy.
@Browz1 not completely but geographicaly it needs to be corrected
Imagine invading a country, only to destroy your own military and economy. Expand the Western influence on all borders, and ultimately lose previously stolen territory and collapse into a failed terrorist state- well done Putin! 🤣🤣
Goldfishbrain 😊
@@erhardbaehni1832 That's a great name for Putler given the truth of @MidCoastAdventures comment
Yes! He's a stable genius like Trump.
Wow you people believe any BS the media feeds you.
Europe's economies are collapsing... Russia's is booming.
And through this process, Russia's military is on the growth from what was 220,000 to become over 1.2 million over the next year.
Nato's plans to destroy the Russian military has had the complete opposite effect.
Russia is getting stronger, way stronger... because the west are led by complete idiots.
All they had to do was keep their noses out of Ukraine... but they couldn't help themselves.
Thats just what NATO has done
Wagners took credit for occupying Bakhmut. Prighozin even predicted the Russian army wouldn't be able to hold it. Zelensky seems to be trying to humiliate Putin.
The world and its wife are laughing at Putin. Zelensky used to be a comedian now he’s a leader. Putin used to be a leader now he’s the comedian.
@@petejones6030 You're an idiot if you believe that.
30,000 dead Ukrainians since their offensive began.... yeh humiliating.
@@petejones6030 Putin isn't a comedian, he is a sad joke.
@@Terrysmithsmithonson Compared with about ten times that number of dead orcs, it sure is.
Speaking the truth in Russia is not allowed.
Подтверждаю.
Poor Karen. It absolutely is in the west. Even all the Russian lies are allowed, never heard of anyone falling from a window in the west for spreading them.
@@ElaineDavey-db3ilYes it is, a lot of countries have very good freedom of speech. It’s just that idiots like russonazis have so twisted idea of truth, that we really do need to fight against such untruthfulness, and for some it may seem that “truth is forbidden”. For them, I say go to school, educate yourself, don’t let people like Putin or Lavrov deceive you with their false history.
@@russellspeed1693 я нахожусь там и я подтверждаю.
@@russellspeed1693yes, it's far worse than you could ever imagine.
Watching russia *lose* is tremendously satisfying.
Indeed
Well you are watching something else, because that isn't what's happening. Your television is a propaganda machine.
@@Terrysmithsmithonson Loser... Your cowardly dictator Putin has lost..
@@Terrysmithsmithonsonriiiiight. 😂😂😂😂
It's ok to dream 😋
Compared to the rest of the front (esp. the southern fortified lines), Bakhmut is actually the softest target for Ukraine at the moment.
Papalshit it is like this.Satanic you use the Holy Bible to curse,or read.Eye am not reading.Lemu😅
Get those cluster munitions that are now in Ukraine to the front line, and start REALLY clearing out the Orc trenches, and that will very likely cause a lot of destabilisation.
Orcs you say. Didn’t the Nazis try to dehumanise the Jews. Same playbook I guess.
Do it yourself
@@gbrown9694 Because they are fascists by definition.. Arguably always have been.. We get to see it on social media.. We all know what should be done with Nazis
Given the tens of thousands of war crimes the Russians have committed "orcs" is too kind.
@@gbrown9694 The difference is in this case it's the Russian's trying to genocide the Ukrainians. All armies will try to dehumanize their enemy, that's just part of war. Like how the Russians call the Ukrainians Khokhol's.
Ukraine must have the finest army of fighting men and women in the world at this stage. The assistance given by GB is to its great credit and history will see it so.
Over 300,000 of them are dead, and just as many wounded.
GB has done nothing, they won't even let the challenger tanks into battle because they don't want the world to see them burning like the leopards are.
There have been so many casualties, neither side is giving the real number of men and equipment lost. Some units are probably highly trained and battle hardened but a lot of soldiers have been killed and replaced multiple times if you looked at a single position on the front.
@@KeneticOutdoors Even the pentagon leaked documents stated Ukraine was losing soldiers 8-1 when they were on the defence. That number is way worse since they have begun their offensive's.
funny, the UK governments of the last decade been paid by Putin to destroy the EU....
even that went wrong, the Brits only destroying the UK,
the EU is even working closer together now and support the Ukraine...
i wonder what the German Nazis, AfD, and the leftists, Die Linke, get from Putler to try to turn over the German government to serve their overlord Putler!
@@Terrysmithsmithonson Utter and complete 100% tosh. The Pentagon released NO such documentary information whatsoever . . you must be the local village bot idiot
In Russia, we don’t support Putin’s totalitarian regime. Peace for everyone
Strangely, 'strong man' poo-tin has never been able to pick up a kalashnikov and go to the front lines. Strong by hiding in the bunker!
He was always strong only in arranging photo-ops with him without a shirt. More like an actor than a real man of action.
@@arctic_haze and equally Zelenskyy the Actor has become the man of action!!
@@allomony4010 Well noted, sir!
putin doesn''t just hide in his bunker like a frightend child ... sometimes he runs away to St Petersberg ... like a fightened child .
@@balaclavabob001 He did once send one of his body doubles within fifty miles of the front line. Then he must have realized what would happen if the double got killed before he was ready to make his escape.
The idea that Prigozhin 'flipped' in desolation at the huge Russian casualties is morbidly amusing. He promoted the 'meat grinder' tactics causing countless casualties. No, it was the prospect of Wagner coming under Russian Military control and personal power-preservation that triggered his mutiny.
Подтверждаю. Пригожин укрепил свои позиции, что даст ему больше шансов в борьбе за власть после смерти хуйла-путина.
I follow a trusted Ukrainian vlogger (he is rarely wrong) who reports from a military perspective.
He reported late last evening that the Ukrainian forces have chased out the Chechnyan's from western hills of Klishichiivka, a key strategic area.
In brief, the Ukrainians lured them into thinking they were retreating from the immediate hills, they fell for it, got pulverized and the Chechnyan's retreated as they were taking heavy losses.
btw as tough as the losses were, I think Zelensky and his military command were/are right to concentrate on Bakhmut for all the reasons stated, and this time around it will bear more fruit if they retake that whole area in an incredible short time compared to how long it took Wagner and Russian forces to take it.
That alone will be a huge blow as Russia made this a symbolic win no matter the toll it took on them. And the resulting fall-out in Russia and the leadership although unknown, will most definitely sow the seeds of discontent at the very least.
Are you talking about the "Reporting from Ukraine" TH-cam channel?
It's not surprising the Ukrainians are using massive amount of artillery. That's one technique they inherited from the Soviets, who used it to great effect during World War II. The American M777 and French Caesar 155 mm howitzers are probably the best artillery pieces in the world and Ukraine has been supplied with both of them.
It will be months before Ukrainians may achieve parity in arty. At the moment they are heavily outgunned.
The Ukrainians are not using massive amounts in the way the Soviets did at all. A lot of the time, because of the drones and GPS guided munitions, they hit the target in, at most, three shots. The Soviets, like the Russians, would use three hundred. Every shot wears out the gun barrel, decreasing accuracy and range.
When your air force is inadequate artillery is the only technique to use.
Bakmhut is critical, as long as the Russians think so and if Ukrainians can set themselves up in a dominant military position over Bakmhut, then they will reap the benefits.
Bakmhut is critical in draining Orc forces and further demoralising Orc soldiers. Also by pinning down Orcs that have very chance of getting out of there alive unless they surrender.
@@ElaineDavey-db3il No, the Russians are war mongering barbarians. The Ukrainians are fighting for their children's future. They don't want them growing up as white slaves to Russia.
Everything russians are holding is CRITICAL, everything Ukraine loses is NOT Critical :P
Just move onto the next town same story.
That was some seriously well trained Ukrainians rifleman. I hope everyone they train is on the same level. But even well trained does not always transition into combat awareness that is only gained from experience.
"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." ~ John F. Kennedy
Ukrainian Minutemen! Godspeed 🇺🇸🇺🇦
Bahkmut was a strategic genius move by AFU leadership, its the gift that keeps on giving!👏 👏👏
From the UKR pov, this ravaged city is no longer about defending a specific patch of soil but about making the invaders pay a greater price for remaining there - wherever "there" may be. So long as the enemy remains huddled there in place, they might as well decimate them there rather than let them move along to destroy some new Ukranian town or city. What was once Bakhmut is as good a place to decimate invaders as any other. It's not about being stubborn over a signpost. It's fairly solid battle tactics.
It’s time for a little payback
I think some of the GMLRS not sent so far are full of cluster munitions - so things could about to get much worse for the Russian trenches.
Russia have twice or more times the amount of cluster munitions than the USA,so it will be twice as bad for the ukrainazi
The meat grinder keeps grinding zeds. Love it. ❤️
Thank you to the heroes of Ukraine for defending Europe from Russian expansionism and Savagery.
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Zelensky and his Generals got Bakhmut absolutely right, the Western advisors were wrong. The UAF allowed the Russians to think they could capture it, thus giving them the "victory" they so desperately needed, but it's loss would not harm the defence of Ukraine. Once the Russians committed to the attack they just could not admit their mistake and withdraw so kept committing forces they could have better used elsewhere.
The Ukrainian Army bled the Russians and slowed/stopped any offensives elsewhere, once Ukraine had the firepower they are encircling the city to trap the troops inside.
Its just as if the Russians never thought they might fall victims to the same mistakes as the Germans did at Stalingrad.
As has been said before, history has a funny thing of repeating itself, looks like in a sense, the shoe is now on the other foot
**BAKMUT**The taking back of Bakmut would be a devastating blow to Putin and further weaken his grip on power. I argue,would it not be worth sending one or two of those idle mechanized brigades to accelerate the fall of Bakmut?. By sending one to the southern flank and one to the northern flank, maybe for just a week or two, before withdrawing them for the battle south in Zaporhirhizia Oblast. Not only would they consolidate progress to strangle Bakmut , but would force troops away from other fronts , possibly also from the southern front.
Who knows, maybe that’s the plan but remember shhh 🤫 , silence on the battlefield after all
WHy since Zelensky sees Bakhmut as a perfect way to inflict a major political defeat on Putin as he touted Bakhmut as a crucial city, fighting over it for 9 months losing 50K casualties on it. The loss of Bakhmut for the Russians will deal a very heavy blow to putin and undermine his regime.
I remember Zelenskyy publicly stating that Bakhmut was the most important city in teh east. He got flak for that back then, as everyone said it wasn't strategically important and all he would achieve would be to bring unwarranted russia attention to the city. Now we know it was massive and cunning rouse. That was the most heavily fortified city in the region so he basically tricked the russians into choosing there (the worst place they could have chosen) to attack.
@@ghostlightx9005 yah and the Russians got lured in and got blasted. yah they took it after 50K casualites and even more, then announced we won, hahahah, they the Ukrs do a stalingrad 2.0 and recapture it with the cherry of a Russian mass surrender hahahaah.
If what we are told about the defensive setup of Russiansis true then the best approach would be to target the 2nd line of defence where the most experienced and better armed Russians are. That will require long distance precision weapons but the pay off will be creating more confusion amongst the enemy rather than facing a stronger defence after wasting a lot of resources to drive back the 1st line who are more scared of their commerads behind them than Ukrainians.
gotta go where the enemy is
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Keep fighting ukraine!
"Slightly genius move" characterizes much of Zelensky's tactics.
The only thing that will stop Russia is full bodybags arriving home to wives and mothers.
It's tragic that innocent Ukrainian defenders and civilians will die as these bags are filled.
The west must give Ukraine the tools it needs to carry out this terrible task.
Best wishes to Ukraine from Ireland. 🇮🇪💚🇺🇦
Putin and his gangster ghouls are not sending the sons of mothers from St Petersburg and Moscow. They just send slaves or criminals from the 'provinces' the inferior non Russian underclass who don't count or who are totally brainwashed.
Go Russia... defeat the most corrupt country in Europe, that is sending it's population to the slaughter at the behest of the corrupt west.
History shows that it is not the case. Russia and Ukraine will have a task to increase birth rate to replace killed though.
Myself and some friends lost our arses on a fishing holiday in the Ukraine thanks to Vladimir and his 'Special Op' We were due in Kherson this month to fish the Dnipro for monster Well's Catfish and Carp. It's no laughing mater. just short of 12 grand between 8 of us. We have had £4500 back off . £7500 has been lost and we agreed that it was a little inappropriate to start jumping up and down about it. The Guilly we hired has lost everything. I hope they can get back to some semblance of normality, sooner rather than later. We thought we had it rough as we watched it all unfold on TV, but we had lost nothing in comparison to these folk. It was booked before the invasion, how were we to know? There was a glimmer of hope until they blew the Dam.Damn you Vladimir.
The war started last Feb so you had plenty of notice that there would be a big problem.
I agree that Bakhmut as a city may not be overly important. But thing is, when Ukraine succeeds to encircle Bakhmut (as one piece together with the Yakovlivka-Soledar-Bakhmut-Klishivka-pocket), and then in one or the other way neutralizes some 30 or 40 k soldiers, that would cause a Tsunami in Kremlin. Wagner captured Bakhmut after a long fight and handed it over properly to the Russian army and then the Russian army would loose it within a few weeks and brings 40.000 black plastic bags back home. Putin would loose all his credibility even among the dumbest of his followers.
Northern Donetsk is not Russia.
He might have used 'Russia' as short for 'Muscovite troops'.
ruZzia get out 🙏🇺🇦✌️
Slava Ukraine…🇵🇭🇺🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Interesting to see that the russian artillery shell casings shown here has either chinese or north korean letters on them
Some people treat this war like a football match. Comments section are full of people trying to put down the otherside and ignore any faults their "team" has.
welcome to War, where everyone devolves into an aggressive ape and beat their chests. You won't find any intelligence or civil discourse here, only cheerleading, bloodlust and mockery on both sides. This is pretty tame however, I've seen far worse on some Indian news TH-cam channels where they also mix in their own nationalism and talk about the Fall of the West.
General Lee said "......it is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it.."
In war there are always faults on all side. But without one side - in this case Russia - starting the war there wouldn’t be any faults at all.
@@francispeter8169 This war began way before the Feb 2022 invasion. The seeds were sown in the Clinton Era after a disastrous midterm in 1994 and needed a foreign policy win before the 1996 presidential elections. He therefore decided to expand Nato at a time when Russia was not a threat. In fact Russia only rumped up defense spending after the 2008 announcement by Nato on Ukraine and Georgia joining.
I am not saying Russia doesn’t bear responsibility for the current situation but the simple and idiotic narrative that it is all Russia is absurd. That narrative prevents any logical resolution of the dispute.
It is significant now. Everyone knows this city of conflict, resistance and honor.
Bakhmut is a gateway. This is the stretch of front line which has the least depth of defense. Once on the other side of Bakhmut there is very little fortification.
A key to the rest of the Donetsk
I m watching this local channel from atleast 6 month. Everyday they tell russia about to collapse. But we see russia is advancing and ukriane is failing.
You destroy the Russian army of Bakhmut, there is no army left, so then you run out and just occupy most of the rest. This is the focal point to grind down and obliterate the Russian army so nothing remains.
@donaldkasper8346 Yeah, so, what you are saying is that Russia have over a million troops in Bakhmut, is that correct?
@@boota1979 No he is saying that most of the russia forces that are worth a damn (and not conscripts etc) are there.
@@ghostlightx9005 "most of the russia forces that are worth a damn" Any qualified military in the RF is still led by the obviously worst Command and Control system on the planet! Decent or even good forces with terrible leadership, no food water or ammo and who are considered expendable cannon fodder is unlikely to have long term success.
The dictator and his MOD want them to look good in parades, but in conflict they cease to even be humans, not even numbers as they die.
I must admit this has been a fairly brilliant plan. Now that Ukraine has more and better cluster munitions it should work even better.
Ukraine lost 600k troops...wonder plans are so efective..😁☝️....parody on military.
Clusters are going to wreck these trenches.
The Russian casualty rate is going to spike over the next few months.
Apparently it's in/under Bakhmut.
It makes a lot of sense going after Bakhmut, Russia made a song and dance about its capture, they lost a ton of men and material taking it, they also, unlike the rest of the front line are not set up for defensive positions there after their offensive posture making it comparatively easier to push thru without the need for breaking dug in multiple lines of trenches etc. If it is retaken it would also be quite catastrophic for Russian propaganda and pretty impossible to spin it could be significant in further undermining the perception of Putins strength and quite convincing in terms of the reality that Russia are losing this war.
Sorry to say Ukraine can never win the war even though it is funded by the West (NATO)
#BakhmutIsUkraine .. ✊🙏💙💛🇺🇦🔱🔥
Kaputin is in trouble! May St Francis of Assisi, St Clare of Assisi and Blessed Carlo Acutis who is buried at Assisi, intercede with the Almighty for an end to this terrible war and for a just peace for Ukraine - no more aggression from Russia, ever! Carlo was born in 1991 - a significant date for Ukraine. May the Archangel Michael and his angels drive out the demons of war from the Kremlin and Russia
Who's advising putin? It wld take "more of a man" to stop the war in Ukraine than it wld to continue fighting a loosing battle.
237,000 russian occupiers killed so far 😱
i believe that number includes wounded and killed, not killed only.
What about urkaine
Bakhmut only matters because Russia paid so much for it. Ukraine knows Russia will take heavy losses to prevent them taking it back again. So, why not exploit that?
CLUSTER, used to clean out trenches, mine fields, RUSSIAN's on and on!
Cluster munition is not very good at clearing trenches, especially trenches with bunkers. For clearing mine fields they are useless.
But they are great for taking out troops in the open, light armour and artillery and electronic systems.
Let's just wait and see , certainly better with cluster bombs than without
Western military advisers are not politicians and don't necessarily have their finger on the pulse of the sentiments of the Ukrainian population.
The Ukranians are in the process of encircling, or partially encircling Bakmut. This places Putin in a dilemma. Either he orders a withdrawal from Bakmut, which would be a blow to his prestige after spending so effort to capture it; or he tries to defend an untenable position, which will be a meatgrinder for the undersupplied Russian soldiers within the city, under fire from three or maybe four directions. From the Ukrainian point of view, Bakmut has become a trap for Putin.
Any Ukrainian or Russian bomb that kills anyone from either side in bakhmut, does not hurt anyone or blow up another building in another city.
Whereas in reality, the Russians learn from early deaths and use that to develop strategies and tactics for latter stages of the war. They changed their approaches to German strongholds in WW2 as a direct result of the losses they had in early attempts.
@@kiandrah8517 But this time, Russia are the Fascists, in more ways than one, and this time Ukraine are the ones pushing an enemy invader back from THEIR homeland. We're already a _long_ way from Russia's 'early attempts'.
Bakhmut could easily end up being as costly to Russia as their entire failure in Afghanistan-a failure that was directly related to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Like any other war, the Afghanistan war crippled and injured soldiers (called Afgantsy) who then had to be sent home. By the mid-1980s, there were already about a million Afgantsy in the Soviet Union and they had emerged ‘as a new social force in their own right’.
The Afgantsy felt betrayed. Many of them organized into vigilante groups determined to fight the money grubbers and ‘scroungers’ who had sent them to war and were ignoring their existence. By the late 1980s, some Afgantsy had begun organizing themselves politically. The Afghanistan war created conditions for the demilitarization of Soviet society.
Something similar could happen again, a division between the army and the Putin regime and between the army and the citizens, which then undermines the legitimacy of the army as a moral institution that is supposed to safeguard the oppressed.
@@kiandrah8517 that may not be a good comparison. They are learning but I am not sure if it is enough. Stalin relaxed control over the army and the generals were given more freedom, is that happening now or are they still rigidly top-down? It seems to me the latter. For now.
🇺🇦 Ukrainian land belongs to the Ukrainian people gives the reason to fight for it Putin has not honoured what was signed in 1991. It is right and honourable for Ukraine to receive assistance and respect from the whole world struth we're in the 21st century previous conflicts should have taught us something to restore peace and respect. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🔱 respect from 🇭🇲 ❤️🕊
Ukraine people never existed.
Its Russian people or deluded selfhating russians
Times Radio congratulates Djocovic for his great victory in Wimbledon Mens final. Eejits
Bahkmut has historical significance.
The significance of Bahkmut is not tactical but political.
Bakhmut has been an extremely effective (and efficient meat grinder of Russian forces.
Hahahaha😂😂😂keep the comedy coming.
When a comedian goes on stage they face hostilities, Zelensky has taken Prigozhin's heckling and seen him walk out the venue, go home and shout at his dad that the funny little man made him cry.
The symbolic retreat from Bakhmut of Wagner, Chechens and soon the Russia Army will be massive in Russia.
Kremlin top brass is being shuffled and sacked faster than ever and there will be only ONE man left to replace.
Brutal yes, lord the second most powerful military in the world, running short on supplies. He probably knows exactly what he's doing.
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Слава Героям!💙💛✊
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Hiding in the forest outside the city. I dont call that winning. Push them out if you can.
All wars boil down to economics. Wars end when one nation is no longer able (edit: or willing) to supply their military with the resources required to fight on successfully.
That's why long range strike capability should have been supplied to Ukraine from the very beginning, without any restrictions (they already limit themselves to hitting only military targets).
It's great that Ukraine is constantly taking out supply depots 80 miles behind the front lines, but these are small potatoes. What Ukraine must go after is the big stuff! The tank and artillery depots in Russia. Russian shell factories. The plants where Russia assembles and repairs their heavy equipment. The Sukhoi and Mikoyan manufacturing plants should have been turned to ashes long ago, along with every last one of Russia's oil storage facilities.
In any other war these would be primary targets, but we don't allow Ukraine to take the gloves off. We do this despite the fact that Russia destroyed all such facilities in Ukraine in the opening months of the war.
It's long past time to finally cut off Russia's supply lines at the source!
Wrong ! Afghanistan ! do you forget what happens when the local population has the time ⏲️ .
what?
If I put my cynical hat on, I think the explanation is this: the West did not (and still does not) want the war to end too early. They want it to last a sufficiently long time so that russia's economy will take massive long-term damage so severe that it cannot recover to invade again in future. We are not there yet, though we are close.
It's about economics in wars *between near peers*.
That is one of Putin's mistakes, he didn't realize Ukraine had become a near peer during the years between 2014 and 2022.
Note economically Ukraine only survives due to massive aid from the West.
@@nicolaasstempels8207 Nitpick: To date, Ukraine has been given the equivalent of 5% of the total military budget of NATO for ONE year. It is not massive aid, it is actually tiny. (Compared to NATO's wealth)
Bahkmut is mostly a PR campaign because Russia made such a big deal out of capturing it
Also as long the Ukrainians can continue to inflict 5 or 7 to 1 losses there, there is a good reason to keep fighting in Bahkmut
Just wear down the Russian forces in one place and push somewhere not as well defended
Ukraine is not inflcting any loses attacking heavily defended lines, they are just dieing doing that, and losing all their armor and men :(
They should surrender.
Why did you personalise the Ukrainian war tactics on Zelinsky. The Ukrainian military leaders will be making the decisions, subject to sign-off or negative instructions by the government. It is not help[ful to personalise it in that way.
Its amazing how much ammo and artillary they just wasted for this story
Huh??
How do you defend something you dont possess?
For life 😊
Bakhmut might be a ruse to draw Russian forces away from other places.
Nahhh, Putler will hold on to Bakhmut. He’s happy to expend another 100,000 Russian lives for the glory of Bakhmut and Motherland Russia, and the 100,000 orcs are willing to become heroes for the motherland 😂🤡
So the "offensive" is just the same old thing, no difference at all.
No advance, no change of tactics, no surge of personnel, just the same old artillery duel.
Russia is quite unstable already, but give it another shove!
With things going so well, I wonder why all the Foreign Fighters are leaving Ukraine?
Of course you do Ivan.
The town itself is ‘insignificant,’ but when you study the topography of the region, it is strategically significant. Control Bakmut, and you’re Obi Wan on that high ground. That’s why the russians took such huge losses trying to take it.
Not as many as Ukraine lost trying to hold it.
@@Terrysmithsmithonson In which case it is the first time in military history where the defender lost more troops than the attacker. But nice try.
@@ghostlightx9005 No it's not... but yes that is what's happening. 90% are killed by artillery, not combat.
And Russia outguns Ukraine in magnitudes of artillery, drones, missiles and everything else. Stop believing the BS you tv tells, or thinking what you believe is true because you want it to be.
Ukraine is getting slaughtered.
@@ghostlightx9005so you admit Ukraine is taking more loses than Russia right now on their greatest counter offensive? They're the attackers remember and as you said.......right
Vatnik cope is pretty good this video, not up to their usual standard 3/10
At some point you will need to tell the truth…
The truth is out there
Without Bakmut battle, without mutiny, which blows up Putin’s power. It worths.
Look, it's not Putin's nightmare. It's a nightmare for the Ukrainian and Russian Bois that have to fight there. For the higher ups above the field commanders it's just a mark in the map that has changed colour from blue to red.
Western advice on Bakhmut has been just plain wrong.
Ukraine know that Bahkmud is symbolic and will troop men and resources into the resources. As well as retaking it being a massive psychological blow to Russia.
It's not symbolic. It's a meat grinder.
They plan on it from 2014 and still nothing...
The US authorities could end the conflict in Ukraine as soon as possible, but they are reluctant to do so.
Slava Ukraine. From United States of America.
I hope there’s no Russophobia in USA
If we want Ukraine to go faster, they must be armed with jets and long ranged missles. If we don't, then this war will be a long one.
Like prigozhin said this war is about pootin getting more power and generals becoming marshal's with the redstar medals, he right 😮
You mean it wasn't to cleanout the Gay Satanic Nazis? Who knew?
Could a Russian please take putin out
We don’t support Putin’s totalitarian regime
Destabilize Russia? They have 2 or 2.5% inflation, no shortages, expanded trade, and starting a gold backed currency.
Destabilized, no.
Then Russia won't mind for this war to go on for the next ten years with at least two million dead Russian soldiers, will it? ;-)
In my opinion, the reasons Ukraine defended bahkmut was because russians were there, it was only strategically important as it kept them there, and ukraine was able to take advantage of the situation to make it a good killing field while they organised elsewhere largely unmolested.
The reason ukraine would now want to retake bahkmut is because its the only victory putin/russian forces could tout as a real success, and since the russian military/putin had to spend so much time touting this success to justify the 10 months and tens of thousands of losses, for ukraine to just retake it would be massive blow to russian propaganda and putins credibility, not to mention absolutely devestating to the russian military morale (which is already crushed as it is), not only that but as mentioned ukraine doesn't have to worry about civilians because there's only russians so they can fire away at a safe distance. Russia can't afford to lose the city, so it could very easily become ukraines #1 asset for unaliving russian forces again, as they keep sending people in to try to hold it.
Pregozhin has channeled Cossack/Tatar vibes.
Attack supply lines in Russia. Oil depots, oil refineries, trains bridges, power lines, gas lines, power generation, airports, ports.
Who wants to bet?
The conversation between Putin and Prigozhin DID take place. But it was in a white-tiled room with lots of handy stainless steel utensils. With witnesses who are now back in line…
Zelenskyy is the GOAT.
Well that has won the war for Putin. If only he had tried calling him a goat on day one.
Greatest Of All Time 💙💛💙
putin is being defeated by a GOAT? How embarrassing for him.
What does that mean? It doesn't make sense in English.
@monacophotographyevents2384 acronym.....Greatest Of All Time 😆😆😆
Zelenskyy stubborn about Bahkmut??? Really and you’d let Russia keep Coventry, or Leeds?
Guess bakhmuts important to Ukraine now😂 a shame that 43 days into Ukrainian offensive operations and they still haven’t even made it back into the city. Let alone Kliischivka in the south