I LOVE that the people clapped at that stick save. Even though it was the away teams' goalie, that's such a ridiculous save that you have to applaud him!
The empty space between the audience and the arena is due to this being a multi-arena from the 70's. They have concerts and other things here as well. The arenas dedicated to hockey usually have the audience sitting right up to the protective glass.
Love your videos. They really make the viewer feel like being part of the crowd. I'm a Finnish hockey fan and I gotta say I'm a bit envious of the Swedish atmosphere in sports. Good stuff!
TWO of the greatest goal tenders in the NHL has played in Frölunda. Henrik "The King" Lundqvist (New York Rangers) and Fredrik Andersen (Carolina Hurricanes). The latter used to play for Toronto Maple Leafs, as well ;) Edit 1: The indian chief you can see on the jerseys of the fans is the old logo. The team used to be called Frölunda Indians before a woman with native American ancestors thought it was offensive, the case got reviewed by a native American association and they deemed it not racist. The team changed the logo and name anyway, in 2021. Skellefteå AIK (SAIK) is not associated with AIK, the team from Stockholm. SAIK stands for Skellefteå Allmänna IdrottsKlubben. It's a franchise with the same logo for both hockey and football. AIK IF stands for Allmänna IdrottsKlubbens IshockeyFörening. AIK is also a sports franchise from Stockholm with the same logo for different sports such as hockey and football.
If my Swedish classes from a Finnish high school arent failing me terribly, the AIK is the same because it means "Public Sports Club", like "PSC", if that was a common abbrevietion in English. So the real difference is probably usually the first letter which is often from the city name although they both would start with S so i guess its good the other one in this case is IF so "icehockey club" if i recall correctly. The AIK from Stockholm is according ti the most trusted source, wikipedia, is called just AIK probably because its kind of the AIK cuz its probably biggest and most popular cuz its from the capital. (Förening is more like an association i think but i would assume in this case its more like club. Klubben also means club. So if im translating correctly, the nuance is probably lost [some might argue im thus not translating correctly])
@@iarmycombo5659 The one in Stockholm used to be Solna AIK but dropped Solna (a Stockholm suburb) from the name, since almost everybody just called them AIK anyway.
From what I've read on the Indian logo, it was added in the late 80s or 90s when a lot of Swedish teams tried to "Americnanize"(Canadize?) themselves with mascots. Västra Frölunda as the team was original named and being on the west coast gave them a Wild West nickname, but they didn't want cowboys and guns. After dropping the Indian logo and nickname, the first new logo was absolutely terrible, but the new one is pretty neat and is based on a much older logo, so if anything, they are returning to their roots.
@@92xsaabaru- In the early 80's (if I'm not mistaken) Västra Frölunda was nick named Vilda Western (The Wild West) as they had a couple of tough guys on the team. I think that was part of the reason as to why they switched to Frölunda Indians once the Swedish teams tried to become more americanized with their names, merch, mascots and such. I may well be wrong though... 🤣
Even though my understanding of hockey is bare bones (and that's being generous), these videos have somehow become a sort of comfort viewing for me, so keep the coming!
Hey, thanks so much for this comment! We aren't sure how much hockey is too much-- in terms of our audience. For me (Steve), I'm ready to make many more hockey videos! But, I get nervous some of audience is getting bored with them. It's good to hear people enjoy them :D . On that note, we will be making hockey videos for nearly 3 more weeks :D
Back in the mid 90's, many SHL (then SEL) teams added English words to their names. If I recall correctly it was encouraged by the league in order to try to increase viewership by making Swedish hockey feel a bit more Americanized. Frölunda went with, eh, Frölunda Indians for some reason. A name they kept until 2021! Djurgården was Djurgården Lions for a while. Some others were Bofors Bobcats, HV71 Blue Bulls (🤣), and Oskarshamn Atomics. Many teams later dropped the English word.
AIK stands for Allmänna Idrotts-Klubben which basically means "general sports club". It's almost like a sports version of inc. If you know what I mean. You can see abbreviations for hockey like HK, soccer FK or BK, and general sports as SK or IK. H=Hockey, F=Football, B=Ball, S=Sports, I=Athletics and so on.
@@ThunderboltDragon quote from wikipedia: AIK:s första inriktning var friidrott, eller allmän idrott som det hette tidigare, vilket spelade roll för namnvalet: so it´s both
The arenas are usually multipurpose, not just for hockey. So the boards can be dismantled easily and floors can be placed over the ice to host a concert or w/e. It can be setup and dismantled in less than a few hours. If you ever go to a hockey only arena, you get seats close to the boards or can even stand up against the boards.
Canadians and Swedes are very alike because we are for the most nice and friendly, but we take hockey very serious! One of the few times my late mother used foul words was when she watched Tre Kronor (Swedish National team) play hockey and someone fouled a Swedish player.
The native american on the logo is from back in the 80s when SHL and the NHL did a crossplatform. Alot of swedish teams got "American style" names including Frölunda (Indians). Not that long ago Frölunda removed the old logo after a native american woman sued them. She lost that case though as Frölunda had an "ok this logo isn't racist" from the Native American Association from back in the day. They did change the logo even though they won, because times have changed and stuff that weren't offensive back then might be percieved as offensive now.
@@hencytjoe was in no way to patronise native Americans we used the name. It was to celebrate their bravery in war. Fight till last man standing. Fight to the last drop of blood.
@@Taxi58 Exactly. Just like Vikings and Spartans are used in sports. I guess the native americans just don't like the idea of others using their brand. We may not understand why but we can respect that
@@hencytjoe"cringe name" Man shut the hell up, that name meant alot to many people for a period of of 25 years and does make sense because fans have refered Frölunda as "The Wild West" since the 60s
Frölunda were referred to as "Wild West" ever since the lovely, crazy Canuck brothers Mott played for the team in the 70s. In the 90s, the teams in SHL chose a name similar to NHL teams. Luleå Bears, Färjestad Wolves and so on. Frölunda had to pick something related to the Wild west., so they chose Indians. Frölunda Indians was perhaps the only name in the league that really stuck, so it remained until a few years ago. They finally removed the Indian after the discussion about team names from North America came here.
Welcome to Gothenburg and it was soo fun to see you visit "my" team and our home arena. I hope you enjoyed the game and welcome back to Scandinavium and Gothenburg!
Cool that you came to my hometown and saw "my" team. Frölunda was Very lucky to get away with a win on that one...but it was needed! And I must say that the stick save was probably the sickest save I have Ever seen. Lets hope he dosent do any more of those 😁 Scandinavium is a pretty massive arena...but also old. And there is a lot of other activites in it. Thats why there are those pretty big gaps between the ice and spectators.
About the beer and alcohol in Sweden, the laws are super strict about having permits for selling. You cannot buy beer over 3,5% in general stores or kiosks, only in places that have a permit for it. That's also why you cannot bring it outside of the bar, because the permit is only for that specific area of the arena.
The old Frölunda Indians Jersey is so much cooler than the new one imo. My favourite Liiga team Pelicans has a few ex Frölunda players: Ryan Lasch (THE GOAT) and Patrik "Purre" Carlsson. Purre also played for HIFK like 5 years ago.
Unfortunately both Hovet and Scandinavium, the arenas you've been to, aren't pure hockey arenas(ishallar). They're multi purpose. Majority of SHL teams does have arenas without those gaps, since they're primarily for hockey and concerts/other sports secondary.
Really fun to see these videos. How ever if you guys come back you should go see Skellefteå vs Luleå in Luleå. That’s the most rivaling teams in division 1.
Frölunda has changed the logo one year ago. Before they had the Indian as logo and was called Frölunda Indians. Skellefteå's name is Skellefteå AIK and aren't related with AIK from Stockholm. Frölunda's goalie Lars Johansson is known as one of Europe's best goalies, and has the best save procent in Sweden. Second in Sweden was Leksand IF goalie Filip Larsson (Leksand and Frölunda met in quarter final). Scandinavian full arena 12 244 spectators.
Skellefteås Goalie, Gustaf Lindvall, was awarded Goalie of the year , Best Save , Most saves in shootouts in 2020 and is National Team Goalie for Sweden
kept the camera on the game, commentary that isn’t wrong or annoying. phenomenal video dude. a lot of people who make videos like this barely show the actual game on camera.
Frölunda Indians was thier previous name, changed sometime recently to just Frölunda HC. AIK is used by a lot of teams, it translates roughly to ”Public Athletic Club” (Allmänna Idrotts Klubb)
Great video. We have season tickets for Frölunda, haven't missed a game. I saw myself in your video :-) Try to answer your two questions_ The Indian logo is from our old name Frölunda Indians, which referred to our nickname "the Wild West". But the Indian name and logo was dropped a few years ago. AIK is an abbreviation of Allmänna Idrotts-klubben - Public athletics club - used by many teams (similar to Utd or United). The AIK you are referring to in Stockholm are actually named Solna AIK, the team Frölunda met is Skellefteå AIK. Would be fun to see you in person at Scandinavium one day.
This was a fun video. That goalie stick save was in the news here in Finland too! It was that incredible! Don´t buy that Frölunda jersey just yet, maybe their PR team will hook you guys up like Tappara did😉. I don´t follow the SHL league much here in Finland but I did see Skellefteå AIK live here in Tampere at the Nokia Arena last fall when they came to play Tappara in the CHL league (Tappara lost😠) . Shoutout to Mariestads 5,3 beer! It´s my favourite beer in Sweden!👍🍺
The hot goalie is actually our second goalie and has only played about 30 games the last two seasons due to injuries. This was his first playoff game in two years. Fun fact: During his injury he studied bussiness. Nevertheless a great guy and a fan favourite. You should watch a game in Skellefteå!! Either the semis or the finals (yes we will beat Frölunda)
You should have gone down to Ängelholm to watch Rögle, has to be the best Atmosphere in Sweden at the moment . unbeaten in 10 straight games. now in the final to meet one of these two. :-)
#1 Squirrel with little horns. Spot on haha #2 That save was the most insane thing ive seen in hockey and thats including nhl. Historical #3 Frölunda fans need to step their game up. Having completly silent moments for over 10 minutes is just... dont you have any shame? 🤣 #4 after a week in Sweden you finally went and bought beer in a BAR.. and not in a hot dog stand or in super market. Cheers for that 🍻
I've actually experienced that in Hockeyallsvenskan when SSK played and lost big time with 8-1 or something like that and the fans chants just completely died and was silent for a full period or something like that.
Some facts: Skellefteå AIK: The choice of name came from the fact that Idrottsbladet was a popular read at the time and they wrote a lot about AIK, which was very popular throughout the country at the time. Therefore, they stayed with the club name Skellefteå AIK. You could read about this on Skellefteå AIK Fotboll's website until the association merged with some other clubs in January 2006 to form Skellefteå FF. Since 1921, when choosing a club color and club mark, it was an easy choice. AIK had black jerseys with yellow collars, so Skellefteå AIK would naturally have black jerseys with yellow collars, and since AIK's socks were black and yellow striped, Skellefteå AIK's socks were also black and yellow striped. Other than that, Skellefteå AIK and AIK are totally different clubs from different citys. Skellefteå AIK is from Skellefteå way up north in Sweden while AIK is from Solna, which is just outside Stockholm. Frölunda HC? 2022 Frölunda switched from a typical American NHL logo which was the Indian, to a more traditional club brand. The traditional club brands are much more popular in Sweden and the NHL logos are traditionally frowned upon. The decision to go from the Indian to this new brand was made in late 2021 due to the debate that was going on then about the racism in these logos and was met with mixed reactions. Some wanted a change, some really loved the Indian. The new club brand was voted for on a membership meeting by the members. For information, in Sweden all sports clubs are ruled by members (Members own 51% of the club), and anyone can become a member for a small fee (in Frölunda HC it's 500kr which is about 50 USD). So basically the decision to go with this particular brand was made by the members. Although the decision to walk away from the Indian was made by the board in Frölunda HC, without including the members, which they should have done. The reason that you see so many people with the Indian shirt in the arena is because some don't want to put money into buying a new jersey and some simply prefer the Indian and don't want to wear a jersey with the new brand. Me? I prefer the new brand.
For some reason, Gothenburg was called the Wild West. Then Frölunda thought they should have an Indian (who were mostly spectators to the Wild West and were slaughtered) Then a old hippie woman schooled Västra Frölunda so they had to change the logo. Then they changed to a logo that already existed and were schooled again from the Patent and Registration Office. And now they have this one. That looks like zoom on a referees torso with an unzipped zipper. (Frölunda usually gets verdicts with them. So it feels like a quite spot on logo) ;)
If you ever decide to come back to Sweden I'd strongly recommend coming to Karlstad to watch Färjestad play, this season the players themselves voted us as the best crowd in the SHL by quite a margin. Sadly that would have to wait until next year for a playoff experience here
We also got 2 canadians so far for next season. Maxime Lagacé who's stood in net for Vegas, Pittsburgh and the Maple Leafs (spent most of his time in the AHL though) and Jérémy Groleau.
@@youtubeslof8512 Can't beat 30k drunk Finnish fans at city square singing and swimming in fountains when Finland wins the world championships otherwise I'm biased to pick Gävle fans from Sweden.
@@youtubeslof8512 That is a really good question, some of the teams down in Germany and Switzerland have insane fans but I can't really make a fair comparison since I've only been to SHL games in person
I'm so embarrassed about the whole beer situation in Swedish arenas.. shameful really. If you want a proper beer, you have to rush off to the pub in the intermission and stand in line like a f*cking russian in the early 90's, only to miss half the next period. That's why you smuggle your own beer with you when you go to hockey games here.
AIK (The Public Sports Club) is the original team from Stockholm and also the largest club in Sweden in terms of fans. Soccer is today where you find most of their fans. Skellefteå AIK is bad copy (which is obvious when comparing the two clubs logos), but their hockey team is really good these days. Largely thanks to financial support from the city of Skellefteå despite having a financial deficit. In Stockholm it’s exactly the opposite. Hockey teams AIK and Djurgården receive no support at all from the city and find it difficult to conduct sports activities. At the same time that Stockholm has good finances and its surplus is distributed to cities such as Skellefteå, Malmö, Karlstad, Leksand, Örnsköldsvik, Ängelholm, Timrå, Oskarshamn, Luleå. All with teams in division 1. So you can say that the money that the city of Stockholm should use to give Djurgården and AIK a reasonable environment to work in, is sent to the clubs in the SHL (division 1). Don't know how long you're in Sweden but if you want to experience the undisputed best atmosphere in Sweden make sure to buy tickets for the Twin Derby in Stockholm between AIK - Djurgården, Sunday 21 April.
Ever watched bandy? I think it's played in Canada as well but it's most popular in northern and eastern Europe. If you ever visit again in the winter you should definitely go to a game.
I hope Djurgården goes up this year and school everyone on atmosphere again. They usually get's rated highest by sports critiques when it comes to loudness and creating atmosphere especially during playoff hockey. And as a hockey fan I agree, it's just different. Though cred to the other teams been stepping it up in recent years with their crowds. The second division just brings everything down naturally though. Less interesting teams and rivalries, smaller arenas, less quality on the ice, way less economy... Some teams do belong there with SHL too big of a stage for them. Others don't with Allsvenskan too small of a stage. Like Djurgården right now is a 2nd division team on the performance side with a 1st division organization being held back by the circumstances.
AIK stands for 'Allmänna Idrottsklubben,' which translates to 'Public Sports Club.' So, Skellefteå AIK is Skellefteå's team, and Stockholm AIK is Stockholm's. So even though they share the AIK name, they're not connected
A key difference between SHL games in Sweden and NHL games, and that might contribute to the different atmosphere, is the ticket prices. In Sweden you can get a ticket to a game for as low as $15-20 which means that games are accessible to everyone, even youth that don't have wealthy parents. Fan clubs with lots of young, enthusiastic individuals can easily attend games and drive the atmosphere.
You should check out Rögle in the Swedish league. They are making history for being the team that ended up at the bottom of the table that ever makes it to the final playoffs. Plus that They have won 4-0 in games both against Färjestad, which is the best team in Swedish history, and then 4-0 against Växjö Lakers, who were last season's best team.
The Frölunda team, in the late 60’s, was said to be playing “Wild West” hockey. It was less ruled by tactics and more by innovation and talent. Nobody knew what they would do next. So, in the mid 90’s they adopted the name Indians, as a homage to the old type of playing. However, in the early 20’s, it was considered to be politically incorrect and the name was changed to Frölunda HC (Hockey Club). However, not all fans opted for a new jersey and the old “Indian” can still be seen on a lot of the jerseys. 🏒👍
AIK means public sports club. There are 100 AIK's from all kinds of cities, in all kinds of sports. Often a club will be active in more than 1 sport. In summary, AIK is like writing Inc. after a company name.
Yeah the logo changed after Frölunda decided to listen to 2 women in Stockholm that cried over the logo calling it racism as usual. So they changed it for people who will never support the team or have any connection to it. The old logo is way better and I guess fans stick to it since it doesn't look like generic corporate garbare :)
To answer why the Scandinavium looks "cheap" is because they rebuilt the arena some years ago to have a good large sized indoor concert arena for bigger international stars. However Nya(eng: new) Ullevi has a mechanical roof and due to it's size it was simply the better option to haul in a massive amounts of people. So big national stars and not so big international stars performs here now if they ever decide to tour multiple Swedish cities not only Stockholm.
AIK just means "Allmänna IdrottsKlubb" = public sport(ing) club, these were very common before and was just for the public to exercise and enjoy themselves. Usually they organized many different sports like skiing, football, hockey, running and more under the same roof for recreational purposes. This is also why you have both hockey teams and football teams called "Djurgården" (just means animal park) and "AIK" in Stockholm, they both originated from clubs where there were many different sports. It's also why you have a Skellefteå AIK in Skellefteå, it's just another public sport club (has nothing to do with AIK from Stockholm).
Almän idrott is also the old name for friidrott (athletics) AIK had only sports though when they started. Allmän idrott (friidrott, athletics) and gymnastics.
AIK stands for allmänna idrottsklubb which is translate to something like: public sports club. Often it is related to clubs who got together in the 1920,30,40s to play various sports like Bandy, Hockey, Football (soccer) and clubs that anyone could join.
Hovet is a very very old arena and scandinavium is a old multi- arena. In scandinaviums case the seats don't go all the way to the ice since the might have icehockey one day and then a Iron Maiden consert the next day. Malmö Arena is a multi-arena of NHL standard where the seats go all the way up until the ice but is is also built in modern times with that in mind. Does it look great? No but we like the old arenas to in Sweden, mabey they can fix it and bring in some more seats, i don't know. Stop walking up to the convenient shops/kiosks to get your beer. They are not allowed by Swedish law to sell anything stronger than 3,5 %. Every arena has 1 or more real bars not counting the restaurant where you can get real beer, wine, drinks...everything u need. The name AIK stands får "Allmänna Idrottsklubben/General sporting club" and is used by many typs of teams and sports around Sweden. It basicly means that Skellefteå AIK might do or has done everything from football, icehockey, gymnastics, bowling, winther sports....any kind of sport within the realm of the club Skellefteå AIK. Then you might have a different team in Skellefteå that was founded as a pure fotball club that might be called Skellefteå FC, i don't live there so i have no ide but this is what the name means, same for AIK from Stockholm, best know for fotball (even though they are the worst club in Sweden together with all the clubs from stockholm) but the club was not founded as a pure fotball club, that was just one of many sports they did, hence the name Allmänna idiotklubben. In terms of the best place to watch icehockey of the remaning teams in the SM-slutspel i would say Rögle BK in Catena Arena in Ängelholm. It might be sold out but if you could you should go there, and for the love of god, don't complain about the 3,5% if u get at the snackbar. Go to the real bar in the arena and get yourself a real beer.
frölunda changed name to frölunda indians in the 90s i think but recently changed away from it since it wasn't appropriate. aik is an acronym for Allmänna IdrottsKlubben which means general sportsclub basically so it's used all over the country
A lot of the home fans are wearing the older jersey. Frölunda had the indian logo up until a few years ago, when they suddenly decided to change to a more PC logo. As for Skellefteå (Schell-ef-te-au), they have nothing to do with AIK from Stockholm, as the town is located about 800 km north of Stockholm. AIK is simply an abbrevation of Allmän IdrottsKlubb (public athletic club). But of course, its obvious that Skellefteå has copied the colors and most of the logo from AIK in Stockholm.
Unfortunately both Stockholm and Gothenburg has really old and dated areanas that put you very far from the ice. The best arenas you’ll likely find in Karlstad (Färjestad), Jönköping (HV71) and in Linköping (Linköping HC), i think Växjö (lakers) is good as well but I never been there.
The two teams doesn’t really have a rivalry between each other, it’s more just that Swedes in general hate each other, Skellefteå is from northern sweden, and Frölunda is from southern Sweden, and Swedes have in general a rivalry depending on where ur born in Sweden
Lol, it almost sounded as if you were served a 3,5% Pripps Blå, by that reaction, although it was a Sofiero. They're trash also. Nice video though, as a Djurgården fan I came across your earlier videos - one day (hopefully next year, although Brynäs looks seriously tough, if we make it past Mora) we will play against Frölunda and Skellefteå again.
The "indian" fans have on their jerseys is the old logo Frölunda Had a few years back. They were forced to change because everyone thought it was racist to have it as a logo
the reason most of the fans have native amarican on it is because the club had the logo for 25 years before they were forced to chance because ONE woman was offended by it as a fan off frölunda im still pretty pissed about that... Oh and by the way their mascot is a buffalo
As a goalie I agree with ”protect the goalie” but at the same time if you are going on powerplay there is just no point in attacking a player for accidental contact with the goalie. Sure, if ref does nothing then you need to do something but I’d rather have a powerplay than a fight
The Indian was their old logo that they have had for quite a while, but it was removed do the fact that people tought it was offensive to naitive Americans... kinda sad ngl, it was a good logo.
If you want to know why they used to have native American on their shirt it was because when they entered the major league back in the 70s they had a very unique and aggressive play style so they were called the "wild west" (Gothenburg being on the west coast) by the media. So when they wanted to get a mascot they went with a native American because they wanted to use that, but they didn't want a cowboy because it was associated with revolvers and colonial murdering, so they went with a native American as a symbol of a proud warrior, etc. This got caught up in the debate of appropriation and post-colonial imagery of indigenous people so they removed it a few years ago but many fans still have the old jersey. About Skellefteå AIK being affiliated with AIK Sola from Stockholm, the answer is no. AIK is a common acronym for sports teams. It stands for Allmäna idrottsklubben which means "General sports association".
2:49 the "fans logo" was t´Frölundas old logo. and the "players logo" is thier new one. They had to change it because some people claimed that the old logo was offensive towards native americans... Really stupid i know but that just sweden in a nutshell :P / your average swede
Skellefteå AIK is from northern sweden, AIK is otherwise from Stockholm as u said. AIK stands for "allmänna idrottsklubb (general athletesclub). A few years ago Frölunda was called Frölunda Indians and therefore had an indian logo, since the word Indian can be found offensive they had to change it. The arena Scandinavium is very old, so not a good arena to represent SHL (1st division). U should have gone to Ängelholm/Rögle in the finals against Skellefteå :) Like the first and last minute of this game but the whole game instead.
SHL has so much hockey than Liiga. They rarely stand on trap(like too many Finnish teams do...) and the passing, skating and shooting are ahead of Liiga, the intensity is just much higher.. And then there's the atmosphere, its leagues ahead of Finland.
The logo difference is because they chose to change away form the native american symbol a few years ago. And AIK just stands for "allmänna idrottsklubb" which is "general sportsclub" in English
I LOVE that the people clapped at that stick save. Even though it was the away teams' goalie, that's such a ridiculous save that you have to applaud him!
The Beer "Sofiero" is one of the worst beers that you can buy in Sweden.
Yes, massive shoutout to Sofiero for being awful
@@JetLagWarriorsshould be Åbro but swedish beer in general is awful
Blågul is my favorite
You can get real beer in specific bar areas in the arena I believe, but the bars get real crowded fast so you have to be quick :)
@@champ7846L take, Aybro sucks but Åbro bangs
I have only been in scandinavium once and that was the 2024 World Junior Championship and i must say the atmosphere was insane.
The empty space between the audience and the arena is due to this being a multi-arena from the 70's. They have concerts and other things here as well. The arenas dedicated to hockey usually have the audience sitting right up to the protective glass.
Honestly, I don't miss the sounds of fans banging on the glass. It does mean the first few rows don't have that great of a view though.
@@92xsaabaru- true !
Love your videos. They really make the viewer feel like being part of the crowd. I'm a Finnish hockey fan and I gotta say I'm a bit envious of the Swedish atmosphere in sports. Good stuff!
Thanks for this comment! Lots more hockey stuff coming... including back in Finland for the finals !!
TWO of the greatest goal tenders in the NHL has played in Frölunda. Henrik "The King" Lundqvist (New York Rangers) and Fredrik Andersen (Carolina Hurricanes). The latter used to play for Toronto Maple Leafs, as well ;)
Edit 1: The indian chief you can see on the jerseys of the fans is the old logo. The team used to be called Frölunda Indians before a woman with native American ancestors thought it was offensive, the case got reviewed by a native American association and they deemed it not racist. The team changed the logo and name anyway, in 2021.
Skellefteå AIK (SAIK) is not associated with AIK, the team from Stockholm. SAIK stands for Skellefteå Allmänna IdrottsKlubben. It's a franchise with the same logo for both hockey and football. AIK IF stands for Allmänna IdrottsKlubbens IshockeyFörening. AIK is also a sports franchise from Stockholm with the same logo for different sports such as hockey and football.
If my Swedish classes from a Finnish high school arent failing me terribly, the AIK is the same because it means "Public Sports Club", like "PSC", if that was a common abbrevietion in English. So the real difference is probably usually the first letter which is often from the city name although they both would start with S so i guess its good the other one in this case is IF so "icehockey club" if i recall correctly. The AIK from Stockholm is according ti the most trusted source, wikipedia, is called just AIK probably because its kind of the AIK cuz its probably biggest and most popular cuz its from the capital. (Förening is more like an association i think but i would assume in this case its more like club. Klubben also means club. So if im translating correctly, the nuance is probably lost [some might argue im thus not translating correctly])
@@iarmycombo5659 The one in Stockholm used to be Solna AIK but dropped Solna (a Stockholm suburb) from the name, since almost everybody just called them AIK anyway.
From what I've read on the Indian logo, it was added in the late 80s or 90s when a lot of Swedish teams tried to "Americnanize"(Canadize?) themselves with mascots. Västra Frölunda as the team was original named and being on the west coast gave them a Wild West nickname, but they didn't want cowboys and guns.
After dropping the Indian logo and nickname, the first new logo was absolutely terrible, but the new one is pretty neat and is based on a much older logo, so if anything, they are returning to their roots.
@@92xsaabaru- In the early 80's (if I'm not mistaken) Västra Frölunda was nick named Vilda Western (The Wild West) as they had a couple of tough guys on the team. I think that was part of the reason as to why they switched to Frölunda Indians once the Swedish teams tried to become more americanized with their names, merch, mascots and such. I may well be wrong though... 🤣
It was nice to meet you in the lobby yesterday, glad we won the game! Love your channel, keep up the good work!
Woo! Cheers and thanks for watching :) glad you enjoy our videos.
Even though my understanding of hockey is bare bones (and that's being generous), these videos have somehow become a sort of comfort viewing for me, so keep the coming!
Hey, thanks so much for this comment! We aren't sure how much hockey is too much-- in terms of our audience. For me (Steve), I'm ready to make many more hockey videos! But, I get nervous some of audience is getting bored with them. It's good to hear people enjoy them :D . On that note, we will be making hockey videos for nearly 3 more weeks :D
Back in the mid 90's, many SHL (then SEL) teams added English words to their names. If I recall correctly it was encouraged by the league in order to try to increase viewership by making Swedish hockey feel a bit more Americanized. Frölunda went with, eh, Frölunda Indians for some reason. A name they kept until 2021! Djurgården was Djurgården Lions for a while. Some others were Bofors Bobcats, HV71 Blue Bulls (🤣), and Oskarshamn Atomics. Many teams later dropped the English word.
Oskarshamn Atomics makes sense, though :D
Aik rats. Malmö Redhawks.
It was all super cringe.
@@tntfreddan3138 Yeah it's pretty much the only of the Americanized names I approve of. Honestly it's quite good!
Yet Frölunda changed the native american logo to their current one because "racism"
@@karlbro7287 Malmö still has redhawks lol. I think it fits quite well, unlike AIK rats
AIK stands for Allmänna Idrotts-Klubben which basically means "general sports club". It's almost like a sports version of inc. If you know what I mean. You can see abbreviations for hockey like HK, soccer FK or BK, and general sports as SK or IK. H=Hockey, F=Football, B=Ball, S=Sports, I=Athletics and so on.
Allmän idrott is what friidrott or athletics in english, where called in Sweden, when these clubs where founded
@@TheBjern allmänna in this case means that it's a club open for everyone and not a private club.
@@ThunderboltDragon quote from wikipedia: AIK:s första inriktning var friidrott, eller allmän idrott som det hette tidigare, vilket spelade roll för namnvalet: so it´s both
The arenas are usually multipurpose, not just for hockey. So the boards can be dismantled easily and floors can be placed over the ice to host a concert or w/e. It can be setup and dismantled in less than a few hours. If you ever go to a hockey only arena, you get seats close to the boards or can even stand up against the boards.
That save was absolutely insane
Canadians and Swedes are very alike because we are for the most nice and friendly, but we take hockey very serious! One of the few times my late mother used foul words was when she watched Tre Kronor (Swedish National team) play hockey and someone fouled a Swedish player.
The native american on the logo is from back in the 80s when SHL and the NHL did a crossplatform. Alot of swedish teams got "American style" names including Frölunda (Indians).
Not that long ago Frölunda removed the old logo after a native american woman sued them. She lost that case though as Frölunda had an "ok this logo isn't racist" from the Native American Association from back in the day. They did change the logo even though they won, because times have changed and stuff that weren't offensive back then might be percieved as offensive now.
Miss our indian!
The thing is "Frölunda Indians" is such a cringe name, they ought to change it regardless.
@@hencytjoe was in no way to patronise native Americans we used the name. It was to celebrate their bravery in war. Fight till last man standing. Fight to the last drop of blood.
@@Taxi58 Exactly. Just like Vikings and Spartans are used in sports. I guess the native americans just don't like the idea of others using their brand. We may not understand why but we can respect that
@@hencytjoe"cringe name" Man shut the hell up, that name meant alot to many people for a period of of 25 years and does make sense because fans have refered Frölunda as "The Wild West" since the 60s
Frölunda were referred to as "Wild West" ever since the lovely, crazy Canuck brothers Mott played for the team in the 70s. In the 90s, the teams in SHL chose a name similar to NHL teams. Luleå Bears, Färjestad Wolves and so on. Frölunda had to pick something related to the Wild west., so they chose Indians. Frölunda Indians was perhaps the only name in the league that really stuck, so it remained until a few years ago. They finally removed the Indian after the discussion about team names from North America came here.
Welcome to Gothenburg and it was soo fun to see you visit "my" team and our home arena. I hope you enjoyed the game and welcome back to Scandinavium and Gothenburg!
Another game tonight! Time to even the series 2-2!!
Cool that you came to my hometown and saw "my" team.
Frölunda was Very lucky to get away with a win on that one...but it was needed!
And I must say that the stick save was probably the sickest save I have Ever seen.
Lets hope he dosent do any more of those 😁
Scandinavium is a pretty massive arena...but also old. And there is a lot of other activites in it.
Thats why there are those pretty big gaps between the ice and spectators.
Was just about going to bed when I saw this video, watched it all! This is true Viking hockey! Love your engaging video, so good! Keep it up!
About the beer and alcohol in Sweden, the laws are super strict about having permits for selling. You cannot buy beer over 3,5% in general stores or kiosks, only in places that have a permit for it. That's also why you cannot bring it outside of the bar, because the permit is only for that specific area of the arena.
The old Frölunda Indians Jersey is so much cooler than the new one imo. My favourite Liiga team Pelicans has a few ex Frölunda players: Ryan Lasch (THE GOAT) and Patrik "Purre" Carlsson. Purre also played for HIFK like 5 years ago.
The old-old jersey before the NHL-ification of the leauge was even cooler. Mascots are for kids and Americans.
Fun to see you visit Scandinavium and see my favorite team Frölunda play! Nice video!
One player in Skellefteå that played this game played for Toronto Maple Leafs between 2017-2020 are Andreas Johnsson.
also number 17 Pär Lindholm played for toronto. He and Andreas Johnson even played in the same line sometimes.
Unfortunately both Hovet and Scandinavium, the arenas you've been to, aren't pure hockey arenas(ishallar). They're multi purpose. Majority of SHL teams does have arenas without those gaps, since they're primarily for hockey and concerts/other sports secondary.
Really fun to see these videos. How ever if you guys come back you should go see Skellefteå vs Luleå in Luleå. That’s the most rivaling teams in division 1.
Frölunda has changed the logo one year ago. Before they had the Indian as logo and was called Frölunda Indians.
Skellefteå's name is Skellefteå AIK and aren't related with AIK from Stockholm.
Frölunda's goalie Lars Johansson is known as one of Europe's best goalies, and has the best save procent in Sweden. Second in Sweden was Leksand IF goalie Filip Larsson (Leksand and Frölunda met in quarter final).
Scandinavian full arena 12 244 spectators.
Vilka var först med namnet AIK? Märkligt de har samma namn, färger och lika klubbmärke. Pinsamt av den som härmat iaf. Borde byta
Swedish men drink light but they're great. Scandinavian (Finland included) unity!
The only people ON EARTH that think Swedes are light drinkers are the Finns. 😅
Skellefteås Goalie, Gustaf Lindvall, was awarded Goalie of the year , Best Save , Most saves in shootouts in 2020 and is National Team Goalie for Sweden
He was, Now he is backup to an even better goalie who didn't play this game. Linus Söderström.
Fun to have you supporting fhc😁
kept the camera on the game, commentary that isn’t wrong or annoying. phenomenal video dude. a lot of people who make videos like this barely show the actual game on camera.
Dude that game had everything, except a goalie fight, and maybe enough good beer :) Crowd is electric there and great colour commentating!!
Can’t wait for the video on today’s game, such a different game to this videos one
Nice video...Scandinavium is 'multiarena'🇸🇪
Take the train to the south, Ängelholm and watch hockey Rögle BK
Frölunda Indians was thier previous name, changed sometime recently to just Frölunda HC.
AIK is used by a lot of teams, it translates roughly to ”Public Athletic Club” (Allmänna Idrotts Klubb)
Great video. We have season tickets for Frölunda, haven't missed a game. I saw myself in your video :-)
Try to answer your two questions_
The Indian logo is from our old name Frölunda Indians, which referred to our nickname "the Wild West". But the Indian name and logo was dropped a few years ago.
AIK is an abbreviation of Allmänna Idrotts-klubben - Public athletics club - used by many teams (similar to Utd or United). The AIK you are referring to in Stockholm are actually named Solna AIK, the team Frölunda met is Skellefteå AIK.
Would be fun to see you in person at Scandinavium one day.
AIK is simply AIK, Skellefteå AIK is Skellefteå AIK.
Stop putting wrong information into their heads.
Full name: Allmänna Idrottsklubben
Short: AIK
Hello from Toronto 🇨🇦🇨🇦
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Hello from Finland👍😎🇫🇮🇨🇦🇫🇮🇨🇦
This was a fun video. That goalie stick save was in the news here in Finland too! It was that incredible! Don´t buy that Frölunda jersey just yet, maybe their PR team will hook you guys up like Tappara did😉. I don´t follow the SHL league much here in Finland but I did see Skellefteå AIK live here in Tampere at the Nokia Arena last fall when they came to play Tappara in the CHL league (Tappara lost😠) . Shoutout to Mariestads 5,3 beer! It´s my favourite beer in Sweden!👍🍺
Great video, thanks :) The mascot (called Frölle) is a bison.
The hot goalie is actually our second goalie and has only played about 30 games the last two seasons due to injuries. This was his first playoff game in two years. Fun fact: During his injury he studied bussiness. Nevertheless a great guy and a fan favourite. You should watch a game in Skellefteå!! Either the semis or the finals (yes we will beat Frölunda)
LOL The confidence is awesome !! Thanks for this comment
Frölunda vinner gubben
You should have gone down to Ängelholm to watch Rögle, has to be the best Atmosphere in Sweden at the moment . unbeaten in 10 straight games. now in the final to meet one of these two. :-)
The ref wears a GoPro for photographer Michael Erichsen🤩 5:01
I was there! Great game for us!
Damn that giant #8 body slammed the other player like a sack of potatoes.
Petter Granberg. He is superstrong guy. He has a gold from the world championships when sweden won.
#1 Squirrel with little horns. Spot on haha
#2 That save was the most insane thing ive seen in hockey and thats including nhl. Historical
#3 Frölunda fans need to step their game up. Having completly silent moments for over 10 minutes is just... dont you have any shame? 🤣
#4 after a week in Sweden you finally went and bought beer in a BAR.. and not in a hot dog stand or in super market. Cheers for that 🍻
I've actually experienced that in Hockeyallsvenskan when SSK played and lost big time with 8-1 or something like that and the fans chants just completely died and was silent for a full period or something like that.
13:33 That was an great save. Oh and, FRÖLUUNDAAAA, WOOOO!
The team logo for Frölunda that the fans had was the old logo of the team
You have to go to Gävle and watch Brynäs against either Djurgården or Mora in the playoff finals for division one, best of 7.
Some facts:
Skellefteå AIK: The choice of name came from the fact that Idrottsbladet was a popular read at the time and they wrote a lot about AIK, which was very popular throughout the country at the time. Therefore, they stayed with the club name Skellefteå AIK. You could read about this on Skellefteå AIK Fotboll's website until the association merged with some other clubs in January 2006 to form Skellefteå FF.
Since 1921, when choosing a club color and club mark, it was an easy choice. AIK had black jerseys with yellow collars, so Skellefteå AIK would naturally have black jerseys with yellow collars, and since AIK's socks were black and yellow striped, Skellefteå AIK's socks were also black and yellow striped.
Other than that, Skellefteå AIK and AIK are totally different clubs from different citys. Skellefteå AIK is from Skellefteå way up north in Sweden while AIK is from Solna, which is just outside Stockholm.
Frölunda HC? 2022 Frölunda switched from a typical American NHL logo which was the Indian, to a more traditional club brand. The traditional club brands are much more popular in Sweden and the NHL logos are traditionally frowned upon.
The decision to go from the Indian to this new brand was made in late 2021 due to the debate that was going on then about the racism in these logos and was met with mixed reactions. Some wanted a change, some really loved the Indian.
The new club brand was voted for on a membership meeting by the members. For information, in Sweden all sports clubs are ruled by members (Members own 51% of the club), and anyone can become a member for a small fee (in Frölunda HC it's 500kr which is about 50 USD). So basically the decision to go with this particular brand was made by the members. Although the decision to walk away from the Indian was made by the board in Frölunda HC, without including the members, which they should have done.
The reason that you see so many people with the Indian shirt in the arena is because some don't want to put money into buying a new jersey and some simply prefer the Indian and don't want to wear a jersey with the new brand. Me? I prefer the new brand.
For some reason, Gothenburg was called the Wild West.
Then Frölunda thought they should have an Indian (who were mostly spectators to the Wild West and were slaughtered)
Then a old hippie woman schooled Västra Frölunda so they had to change the logo.
Then they changed to a logo that already existed and were schooled again from the Patent and Registration Office.
And now they have this one.
That looks like zoom on a referees torso with an unzipped zipper.
(Frölunda usually gets verdicts with them. So it feels like a quite spot on logo) ;)
The current logo has some recemblance to the original Västra Frölunda (Hence the "VF HC") logo, before they renamed to Frölunda Indians.
Your videos have only just been recommended to me but I already can’t wait for the one about yesterdays game. Insane!
If you ever decide to come back to Sweden I'd strongly recommend coming to Karlstad to watch Färjestad play, this season the players themselves voted us as the best crowd in the SHL by quite a margin. Sadly that would have to wait until next year for a playoff experience here
We also got 2 canadians so far for next season. Maxime Lagacé who's stood in net for Vegas, Pittsburgh and the Maple Leafs (spent most of his time in the AHL though) and Jérémy Groleau.
WHo do you think have the best fans in hockey overall?
@@youtubeslof8512 Can't beat 30k drunk Finnish fans at city square singing and swimming in fountains when Finland wins the world championships otherwise I'm biased to pick Gävle fans from Sweden.
@@realtsarbomba what about Djurgarden
@@youtubeslof8512 That is a really good question, some of the teams down in Germany and Switzerland have insane fans but I can't really make a fair comparison since I've only been to SHL games in person
I'm so embarrassed about the whole beer situation in Swedish arenas.. shameful really. If you want a proper beer, you have to rush off to the pub in the intermission and stand in line like a f*cking russian in the early 90's, only to miss half the next period.
That's why you smuggle your own beer with you when you go to hockey games here.
Yeah, I'm sorry to keep bringing up the beer thing... but it is profoundly lame and frustrates me at every match.
AIK (The Public Sports Club) is the original team from Stockholm and also the largest club in Sweden in terms of fans. Soccer is today where you find most of their fans. Skellefteå AIK is bad copy (which is obvious when comparing the two clubs logos), but their hockey team is really good these days.
Largely thanks to financial support from the city of Skellefteå despite having a financial deficit. In Stockholm it’s exactly the opposite. Hockey teams AIK and Djurgården receive no support at all from the city and find it difficult to conduct sports activities. At the same time that Stockholm has good finances and its surplus is distributed to cities such as Skellefteå, Malmö, Karlstad, Leksand, Örnsköldsvik, Ängelholm, Timrå, Oskarshamn, Luleå. All with teams in division 1. So you can say that the money that the city of Stockholm should use to give Djurgården and AIK a reasonable environment to work in, is sent to the clubs in the SHL (division 1).
Don't know how long you're in Sweden but if you want to experience the undisputed best atmosphere in Sweden make sure to buy tickets for the Twin Derby in Stockholm between AIK - Djurgården, Sunday 21 April.
Ever watched bandy? I think it's played in Canada as well but it's most popular in northern and eastern Europe. If you ever visit again in the winter you should definitely go to a game.
I hope Djurgården goes up this year and school everyone on atmosphere again. They usually get's rated highest by sports critiques when it comes to loudness and creating atmosphere especially during playoff hockey. And as a hockey fan I agree, it's just different. Though cred to the other teams been stepping it up in recent years with their crowds. The second division just brings everything down naturally though. Less interesting teams and rivalries, smaller arenas, less quality on the ice, way less economy... Some teams do belong there with SHL too big of a stage for them. Others don't with Allsvenskan too small of a stage. Like Djurgården right now is a 2nd division team on the performance side with a 1st division organization being held back by the circumstances.
On one want djurgården back. U and AIK can stay in the lower division were you belong.
AIK stands for 'Allmänna Idrottsklubben,' which translates to 'Public Sports Club.' So, Skellefteå AIK is Skellefteå's team, and Stockholm AIK is Stockholm's. So even though they share the AIK name, they're not connected
A key difference between SHL games in Sweden and NHL games, and that might contribute to the different atmosphere, is the ticket prices. In Sweden you can get a ticket to a game for as low as $15-20 which means that games are accessible to everyone, even youth that don't have wealthy parents. Fan clubs with lots of young, enthusiastic individuals can easily attend games and drive the atmosphere.
You should check out Rögle in the Swedish league. They are making history for being the team that ended up at the bottom of the table that ever makes it to the final playoffs. Plus that They have won 4-0 in games both against Färjestad, which is the best team in Swedish history, and then 4-0 against Växjö Lakers, who were last season's best team.
It was skellefteås backup goalie that played his first game in the playoffs.
Hey man nice video thanks for the commentary efforts aswell beeing a swede I sort of feel like its an NHL game just from the commentary :).
The Frölunda team, in the late 60’s, was said to be playing “Wild West” hockey. It was less ruled by tactics and more by innovation and talent. Nobody knew what they would do next. So, in the mid 90’s they adopted the name Indians, as a homage to the old type of playing. However, in the early 20’s, it was considered to be politically incorrect and the name was changed to Frölunda HC (Hockey Club). However, not all fans opted for a new jersey and the old “Indian” can still be seen on a lot of the jerseys. 🏒👍
If you have the chance go to Ängelholm for the finals.
AIK means public sports club. There are 100 AIK's from all kinds of cities, in all kinds of sports. Often a club will be active in more than 1 sport. In summary, AIK is like writing Inc. after a company name.
The fans logo on frolundas Jersey was there old one
The fans logo is the previous logo for Frölunda FC
Yeah the logo changed after Frölunda decided to listen to 2 women in Stockholm that cried over the logo calling it racism as usual. So they changed it for people who will never support the team or have any connection to it.
The old logo is way better and I guess fans stick to it since it doesn't look like generic corporate garbare :)
To answer why the Scandinavium looks "cheap" is because they rebuilt the arena some years ago to have a good large sized indoor concert arena for bigger international stars. However Nya(eng: new) Ullevi has a mechanical roof and due to it's size it was simply the better option to haul in a massive amounts of people. So big national stars and not so big international stars performs here now if they ever decide to tour multiple Swedish cities not only Stockholm.
the area between stands and the rink is for safety reasons
AIK just means "Allmänna IdrottsKlubb" = public sport(ing) club, these were very common before and was just for the public to exercise and enjoy themselves. Usually they organized many different sports like skiing, football, hockey, running and more under the same roof for recreational purposes. This is also why you have both hockey teams and football teams called "Djurgården" (just means animal park) and "AIK" in Stockholm, they both originated from clubs where there were many different sports. It's also why you have a Skellefteå AIK in Skellefteå, it's just another public sport club (has nothing to do with AIK from Stockholm).
Almän idrott is also the old name for friidrott (athletics) AIK had only sports though when they started. Allmän idrott (friidrott, athletics) and gymnastics.
What do you think about todays game? 6-6 and now sudden death.
AIK stands for allmänna idrottsklubb which is translate to something like: public sports club. Often it is related to clubs who got together in the 1920,30,40s to play various sports like Bandy, Hockey, Football (soccer) and clubs that anyone could join.
2:48 thats their old logo, its really loved by all the fans but the club removed it because of a gruop that got offended
Admit it. You thought it was over when Skellefteå scored their 6-4 goal.
if you are still in sweden you should watch the final too
The mascot is supposedly a bison
Hello😎👍 from Helsinki, Finland🇫🇮🇨🇦🇫🇮🇨🇦
Hovet is a very very old arena and scandinavium is a old multi- arena. In scandinaviums case the seats don't go all the way to the ice since the might have icehockey one day and then a Iron Maiden consert the next day. Malmö Arena is a multi-arena of NHL standard where the seats go all the way up until the ice but is is also built in modern times with that in mind. Does it look great? No but we like the old arenas to in Sweden, mabey they can fix it and bring in some more seats, i don't know.
Stop walking up to the convenient shops/kiosks to get your beer. They are not allowed by Swedish law to sell anything stronger than 3,5 %. Every arena has 1 or more real bars not counting the restaurant where you can get real beer, wine, drinks...everything u need.
The name AIK stands får "Allmänna Idrottsklubben/General sporting club" and is used by many typs of teams and sports around Sweden.
It basicly means that Skellefteå AIK might do or has done everything from football, icehockey, gymnastics, bowling, winther sports....any kind of sport within the realm of the club Skellefteå AIK.
Then you might have a different team in Skellefteå that was founded as a pure fotball club that might be called Skellefteå FC, i don't live there so i have no ide but this is what the name means, same for AIK from Stockholm, best know for fotball (even though they are the worst club in Sweden together with all the clubs from stockholm) but the club was not founded as a pure fotball club, that was just one of many sports they did, hence the name Allmänna idiotklubben.
In terms of the best place to watch icehockey of the remaning teams in the SM-slutspel i would say Rögle BK in Catena Arena in Ängelholm. It might be sold out but if you could you should go there, and for the love of god, don't complain about the 3,5% if u get at the snackbar. Go to the real bar in the arena and get yourself a real beer.
Are you going back to finland to see some of the playoffs/finals?
Yep, we will be back in April 22. So, we will miss the first game
frölunda changed name to frölunda indians in the 90s i think but recently changed away from it since it wasn't appropriate. aik is an acronym for Allmänna IdrottsKlubben which means general sportsclub basically so it's used all over the country
A lot of the home fans are wearing the older jersey. Frölunda had the indian logo up until a few years ago, when they suddenly decided to change to a more PC logo.
As for Skellefteå (Schell-ef-te-au), they have nothing to do with AIK from Stockholm, as the town is located about 800 km north of Stockholm. AIK is simply an abbrevation of Allmän IdrottsKlubb (public athletic club). But of course, its obvious that Skellefteå has copied the colors and most of the logo from AIK in Stockholm.
Unfortunately both Stockholm and Gothenburg has really old and dated areanas that put you very far from the ice. The best arenas you’ll likely find in Karlstad (Färjestad), Jönköping (HV71) and in Linköping (Linköping HC), i think Växjö (lakers) is good as well but I never been there.
Yeep the most modern arenas in SHL there
@@Hockey_Events Malmö has a nice modern as well
@@TheBjern yeah that’s true
Who plays in Globen?
@@realtsarbombathey rebuild it now after that AIK and Djurgården (HOVET will be torn down)
The logo the fans are wearing is the clubs old one, the club changed to the one they use now when going into season 2022-2023.😀
The two teams doesn’t really have a rivalry between each other, it’s more just that Swedes in general hate each other, Skellefteå is from northern sweden, and Frölunda is from southern Sweden, and Swedes have in general a rivalry depending on where ur born in Sweden
Lol, it almost sounded as if you were served a 3,5% Pripps Blå, by that reaction, although it was a Sofiero. They're trash also. Nice video though, as a Djurgården fan I came across your earlier videos - one day (hopefully next year, although Brynäs looks seriously tough, if we make it past Mora) we will play against Frölunda and Skellefteå again.
The "indian" fans have on their jerseys is the old logo Frölunda Had a few years back. They were forced to change because everyone thought it was racist to have it as a logo
The Frölunda goal that was taken away by the ref was because of kicking the puck into the net. The last Frölunda penalty was “too many players “
Love that super Max song after Max scored😂 27:34
the reason most of the fans have native amarican on it is because the club had the logo for 25 years before they were forced to chance because ONE woman was offended by it as a fan off frölunda im still pretty pissed about that...
Oh and by the way their mascot is a buffalo
As a goalie I agree with ”protect the goalie” but at the same time if you are going on powerplay there is just no point in attacking a player for accidental contact with the goalie. Sure, if ref does nothing then you need to do something but I’d rather have a powerplay than a fight
Yep, the proper way to protect the goalie is not to take a penalty. Just to make the attacker think twice next time.
Nice video!
The native american logo you see used to be their old logo before SHL made them change it, the fans then voted on that logo.
The Indian was their old logo that they have had for quite a while, but it was removed do the fact that people tought it was offensive to naitive Americans... kinda sad ngl, it was a good logo.
If you want to know why they used to have native American on their shirt it was because when they entered the major league back in the 70s they had a very unique and aggressive play style so they were called the "wild west" (Gothenburg being on the west coast) by the media. So when they wanted to get a mascot they went with a native American because they wanted to use that, but they didn't want a cowboy because it was associated with revolvers and colonial murdering, so they went with a native American as a symbol of a proud warrior, etc. This got caught up in the debate of appropriation and post-colonial imagery of indigenous people so they removed it a few years ago but many fans still have the old jersey.
About Skellefteå AIK being affiliated with AIK Sola from Stockholm, the answer is no. AIK is a common acronym for sports teams. It stands for Allmäna idrottsklubben which means "General sports association".
Oh yeah now you are at the right place! =) FRÖÖÖLUUNDAAA!
yeah and that goalkeeper in Skellefteå is their second goalie not the first one.. But that save, i couldnt believe it
and the maskot is a bison i guess? And the indian on the jerseys are one of our old logos.
Game 4 atmosphere in Scandinavium was soo much better! Too bad we lost in OT...
2:49 the "fans logo" was t´Frölundas old logo. and the "players logo" is thier new one. They had to change it because some people claimed that the old logo was offensive towards native americans... Really stupid i know but that just sweden in a nutshell :P
/ your average swede
Skellefteå AIK is from northern sweden, AIK is otherwise from Stockholm as u said. AIK stands for "allmänna idrottsklubb (general athletesclub). A few years ago Frölunda was called Frölunda Indians and therefore had an indian logo, since the word Indian can be found offensive they had to change it.
The arena Scandinavium is very old, so not a good arena to represent SHL (1st division).
U should have gone to Ängelholm/Rögle in the finals against Skellefteå :) Like the first and last minute of this game but the whole game instead.
The fans logo is a old logo it was called Frölunda Indians but people thought it was kinda racist so they changed
I think knocking net wasnt on purpose, cuz he was sliding on his speed
Maybe so
Im really curious that whats your opinion on SHL (Swedish) and Liiga (Finnish). Which is more close to NHL?
SHL has so much hockey than Liiga. They rarely stand on trap(like too many Finnish teams do...) and the passing, skating and shooting are ahead of Liiga, the intensity is just much higher.. And then there's the atmosphere, its leagues ahead of Finland.
Now you need to go to skellefteå and watch a home game on sunday🖤💛
Are you traveling to Göteborg?
The logo difference is because they chose to change away form the native american symbol a few years ago. And AIK just stands for "allmänna idrottsklubb" which is "general sportsclub" in English