Raised Protestant. Reading the Bible Protestants never lined up to me. I was told Catholics where evil. I finally went to a Mass and haven't missed a week since. At 57 I'm starting RCIA this fall.
That is awesome! Use the good truth that you learned in the protestant church, thank God that they introduced you to Christ and be thankful that God has graced you with the knowledge of the Catholic faith. I'll be praying for you
@timblanton8252 that is truly awesome! Pope Peter and the Early Church was Catholic by Joe Heishmeir and Answering Orthodoxy by Michael Lofton all helped solidify my faith for me, and I was an atheist until 2019
I have been praying for Allie Beth. I believe she's questioning some of what she's been told. She seems to be too much on a quest to "expose" the Catholic Church.
They love to quote Ephesians chapter 2:8-9 and yet for some reason they conveniently leave out verse 10 which says "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."
Yes, and the Catholic church understands this perfectly. We don't deserve to be brought into the Trinity's relationship of selfless love. We are brought in by grace through faith. Once brought into this relationship of love and infused with the love of God, then we are expected to do the works of love we were meant to do
You are right. I became a Catholic in 1972. I remember that the saying "Ignorance of the Bible is ignorance of Christ" was in the very air we were breathing in the Church at that time. Mike Gendron left the Church 12 years after I entered it. I do not find his story credible.
People be like “I was raised Catholic I know what they believe” (they then proceeded to misrepresent Catholicism) and when you call them out on it and correct them. then they ask you, Well what does the church believe then? And I just say “well I thought you knew what it taught?” 😂 they hate what they THINK the Catholic Church is. That’s the problem!
We ought to pray for Gendron because he knows what he's doing and the Lord knows what he's doing. I would not want to be in his position on the day of judgement.
@@StringofPearls55There’s absolutely no reason for him to be so ignorant of what the Church really teaches or Church history. The catechism is free online, many early Christian documents are free online. He has no excuse.
When I was 11 years old a well dressed gentleman came to our rural house and knocked on the door. My father answered and the two started a conversation. I soon heard my father citing scripture from memory. The well dressed gentleman asked my father if he was a Christian. My father answered in the affirmative; he mentioned that he was a Catholic. The well dressed man stepped back looked at my father’s head and then looked around behind him. After a few moments the well dressed man quipped; I thought Catholics had horns and tails. My father laughed and reassured the man that no Catholics don’t have horns or tails. We never saw that man again. 🤣😂🤣😂
Great show, brother. Thanks. I used to like Allie Beth Stuckey and Mike Gendron during my years as a Protestant. Now I can see how badly misguided they are. My family and I converted to Catholicism in June 2021. Pray for us to grow in the faith. ❤🙏
Mike Gendron started talking to me in the comment section on Allie’s channel. He said, “Why do Catholics always point people to the uninspired works of men instead of the inspired word of God” My response was “when there is a consensual agreement between all of our Christian ancestors on doctrines of faith such as the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist or Baptism of infants, etc... then it's called "unanimous consent" of the Fathers. This is not a either/or question (that is has to be either the bible or early Church Fathers)... The two should be harmonious with each other. With all due respect, why would you want to just turn away from this source of knowledge and just automatically believe that your interpretation of scripture is correct?” Never heard back from him after that.🤷🏻♂️
But there isn’t a consensual agreement between all the church fathers on what Rome believes today. There wasn’t a single person at the Nicae 325AD that believed what Rome believes today, for example.
Does anyone honestly believe that Mike Gendron just picked up the Bible, read it for himself, and started spewing stock Protestant arguments like Ephesians 2? If anything he meet a Protestant who interpreted the Bible for him.
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@peterhenryzepeda3484 i always use Ephesians 4 11-14. Verse 14 is Protestantism in a nutshell. Do they honestly believe the church is just a body of believers with no structure and each one teaching something different especially baptism lmao.
Just 2:8,9! Please, for the love of God, don't read 2:10 or any of chapter 4!
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@@danvankouwenberg7234 hey pal Ephesians 8:9 is talking about the mosaic law nice try. This is what Protestants don’t get. Off course you have to read the rest because you have to use context within scriptures. It’s not one verse just like they do witn the bible verses. They make a shipwreck out of it.
I’m a fairly new convert from Protestantism starting RCIA this year with my wife and kids this fall and I can tell you this Mike Gendron is exactly what we get day in and day out about the church. It’s a shame that people take this guy seriously and an even bigger shame that Allie takes this boomer seriously shame on both
I DOUBT his priest uncle said that. I bet that's Mike's FALSE interpretation of what the uncle said! This channel rocks! We need more of this STRAIGHT, BLUNT call outs or Anti-Catholic LIES!
@michelleheltz6116, it is all about the $$$ for Gendron. Like the prosperity gospel preachers, Mike is just another grifter who cons poor suckers out of their hard-earned money every day.
He does have a church that he is pastor of in a strip mall far from his over One Million Dollar gated community home. He is rarely there because of his travel schedule, which he charges fees for speaking, along with the flight and hotel rooms for him and his assistants, and the churches have to order his books for sale during his talks.
As a Catholic, I have no interest in spending my time listening to a Protestant. Their goal is to get you to doubt your Catholic faith. Why would you expose yourself to their lies?
@@catholicocdpodcast, the New Testament is full of instructions which tell us to have nothing to do with these people. Only God can convince them, all we can do is pray for them. I have stopped arguing with protestants on social media. I state the Truth which only the Catholic Church teaches, I warn them per Titus 3:9-11, and then I move on.
I assume his uncle and his mother have since long passed... sooo Mike is just not lying, he's also misrepresenting the position of people who can't no longer defend themselves. He is online making liars, deceivers and idiots out of his own relatives for opportunities and money. Pray for his lost soul. He needs it. 😢
Any religious denomination weather it is Catholicism or a Protestantism preaches a different Gospel with doctrines of lies will all be judge to be liars and will be sent in the lake of fire of hell if they do not repent and be born-again. As we all know it only takes one lie to end up in hell. Look what happened to Adam and Eve they committed one lie and they were kicked out of the garden the same for liars will be kicked out of the kingdom of God. The Bible says all liars will have their part in the lake of fire and the wage of sin is death. Since all these two denominations have existed for centuries has committed many lies by taking out true meaning doctrines from the apostolic fathers and adding or replacing with false new doctrines to justify their narrative belief and by reading them out of context and not taking at it's face value will be judge accordingly. All religions who are not true to the words of the inspired words of God in the Bible it is not the church of Jesus Christ but a synagogue of Satan. It will mean nothing to God for you to keep defending your religion if you let men to dictate what it says unless your correct your teaching habit by letting God speak to you through the Holy Spirit not by men's authority as if they know better then what Jesus has preached. If anyone is upset what other people says about your religion study deeper the Bible more for the truth and find out why they are acting this way before getting upset with them.
I guess if he never opened the Bible, he did not see that most every Catholic Bible published before and many since Vatican II have a prayer recommended for Catholics to pray asking the Holy Ghost to inspire their hearts before and after reading the Scriptures, let alone the many Indulgences that were available for those who prayerfully spent 15 to 20 minutes a day reading the Holy Writ.
Me when I'm in a lying competition and my opponent is Mike Gendron: 😱 (I was going to lose anyway; bearing false witness is a sin. I'm just surprised to be competing with the world champion.)
Cause Protestantism sort of makes you your own God in a Sense. Because the ultimate authority on sola scriptora is the interpreter! People twist the Bible to there own destruction. The reason why a lot of Americans don’t like the Catholic Church is because they are born into this idea of “freedom” which isn’t really freedom. It basically means “I can do whatever I want and so I’m not gonna listen to an authority” lol but freedom should really mean “I’m not controlled by my desires” but yeah Americans don’t like authority and so the idea of having to submit to the church is uncomfortable to them. Ironically Jesus passed down his authority so we should listen to those who have the authority. The apostolic chain of succession. Etc
I think she must have known that inviting Mike Gendron on her show would cause a ruckus. Perhaps she is antiCatholic herself? Only God knows the truth.
Well said. I can't believe Stucky would have someone as dishonest as Gendron on her show. But when it's all about the views, then that's all that matters. You're right. She's basically becoming a modern Jerry Springer.
Her little story about the "devout Catholic" who never heard of John 3:16 and also didn't realize that you could have a personal relationship with Christ. This doesn't sound like a true story. Give me a break!
@catholicocdpodcast i unsubscribed from allie beth stuckley channel. i previously subscribed because she speaks on other issues (like anti abortion support). but, i saw her sat with Trent Horn and went through all the various things catholics believed- so either she forgot all of that or she deliberately sat through that and allowed that idiot to mis-represent catholics. i now make no exceptions - i do not subscribe to channels that are dishonest. she has had many catholics on her show, and she should have known better to challenge Mike Grendon.
She planned these interviews in this order for a reason. She doesn’t want to lose her Catholic followers but she wants to do what Protestants do; convert Catholics with constant gaslighting arguments.
One of the stories Mike has invented recently is that when he was a teen, he was a "good friend" of Padre Pio. He claims he went to visit him with his uncle, a priest and they would "Co-celebrate" sic. the Mass. It's well known that because of his age, Padre Pio was given an indult to continue to offer what we now call the EF. The rubrics of the EF did not allow for "Con-Celebration" Mike has admitted to me that he and his uncle did not speak Italian, even now as he prepares to start a mission to Catholics in Italy, he needs a translator. While it is true that Con-celebration was permitted in the Latin Rite from 1964 until it was made universal in 1970 with the Missal of Pope St. Paul VI, during the years of 1964 to his death in 1968 it was only permitted for large gatherings such as General Meetings of Religious Orders with the Superior General or a Cardinal as the Main Celebrant. Not what Mike describes as Mike (a lay teenager) and his uncle "CoCelebrating" with Padre Pio. ' It is hard to imagine that a priest who was non-Capuchin missionary to the South Pacific, and his nephew would have time to become what Mike says he was, "A Good Friend" of Padre Pio for another reason. Padre Pio would take two to three hours to offer a low Mass, then would spend up to eight or more hours hearing confessions. He also had to eat, sleep, and participate in community activities like joining his fellow Capuchins in praying the Office. He had to work with the people who assisted him with his correspondence, not just because of the volume of mail, but also because the letters came from around the world and he needed not just typists but bi-lingual assistants, leaving very little time to become a good friend of a priest and teen who did not speak Italian to become chums.
Plenty of lazy ex-Catholics that didn't pray, didn't read the bible ,didn't care about Jesus that fall away. You didn't fall away because of the church but because of your wretched attitude but will never admit it. Taking responsibility is difficult and it is easy to blame your priest, church, your mommy and daddy and God knows who else for your shortcomings.
Weak Catholics become Protestant and Strong Protestants become Catholic! If someone sets out to really learn and goes back to the beginning. Learning what the Church Father's taught will send you on a beautiful journey, and you will become Catholic at the end of the day! Sadly, most average Protestants have not read beyond the Reformation. God bless! 🙏
Mike Gendron is lying for a living through his teeth. If he grew up in a family that was not allowed to read or study the Bible, then I question if he was ever Catholic at all. Every parish priest I know is trying to get his flock to read and study the Bible seriously. The Catholic families I know, including my own household, have whole home libraries of Bibles, commentaries, resource books, and scholarly works on biblical subjects. Catechism should be a regular part of every Catholic home. 🙏
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@petertherock7340 Protestants based their faith on the bible because that’s all they have. The problem is they wanna be their own pope and interpret the passage. That’s why the gospel has to be safeguarded by the truth. In the parishes they have bible study class. Need apologetics class as well.
The difference between Catholic and Protestant scripture reading is that as Catholics, we are not to rely on our own understanding of scripture. This is what has led to so much division in the body of Christ. This is why we have the Catechism so we can know what the church teaches without creating our own erroneous interpretation. Protestants learn to quote scriptures out of context ascribing a meaning the context doesn’t convey. That is an evil and diabolical way to use scripture. In fact, this is the way Satan tempted Eve to interpret truth in a different way than God instructed. We shouldn’t be offended as Catholics. Satan has his minions and never sleeps. We should pray for them for they will be judged for what they are doing.
In order to receive the blessing of the sacrifice one must eat what was on the alter. For example, at the first Passover people ate the lamb. (Exodus 12) Likewise, one must eat the flesh of the Lamb of God, the body of Christ in order to receive the blessing of His crucifixion. (John 6:51)
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@bigdog1106 i wonder how protys interpret malachi 1 verse 11. I mean a sermon and playing rock music and raising your hands in the air is not true worship. The old always proceeds to the new.
Bigdog, the OT is but a shadow of new, or the real. An outward performance is not the real worship. The real worship is "in spirit" or by faith. It happens in the heart. Even so I can feel when our worship is breaking thru. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Philippians 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. It's not about the flesh, but faith.
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@@jeromepopiel388 what is worshipping him in spirit and truth to you? Just curious?
It is worship by faith and truth. We have faith that we worship with perfect righteousness all due to His perfect obedience and His perfect sacrifice. It is looking to Christ and not at ourselves. 2 Corinthians 5:7 [7](For we walk by faith, not by sight:) What does it mean to you to walk by faith?
She was terrible in this episode, Especially in her talk about knowing only a small number of Catholics and than bashing their ignorance. You don’t straw man the worst of something but argue against the heart of something. For Catholics- unlike Protestants- you know exactly what their theology and positions are so argue against those.
Allie is intellectually dishonest. Her hate for the Catholic Church trumps her love for truth. When her and Candances husband spoke, it was frustrating how many basic things she got wrong about Catholics, like girl, do a basic Google search.
I honestly wonder if Mike was deeply hurt or abused in some way by a priest or another Catholic. If so, I feel for him, and will pray for his healing so he can come back to the faith. Otherwise, I don’t understand the willful ignorance and the persistence in spreading the blatant lies. It seems like his way to get back at something that hurt him.
No he looks like he wants an annulment for his first marriage and he went off the rail after the church denied him that, after the situation his pride kick off
Catholic Church teaches relationships with Jesus like a married couples giving themselves completely to Jesus and receiving from Him all the love and graces. It's a marital relationship.
At 55:57 Mike says he doesn't know the exact day and month the Lord saved him, but he remembers everything the Catholic Church never taught him as old as he is. This man is damn false witness bearer. Thanks bro for the video.
My dad converted to the catholic faith and purchased a catholic bible. Obviously he didn’t get the message he was not supposed to read it since it’s tattered and the spine is broken. I’m not even certain if my dad received a valid confirmation without the invocation of thou shall not read the holy scripture.
I used to respect Allie and her views. After this I cannot even look at her. I apologize for that, it is uncharitable and sinful. Got to hit the Confessional. Gendron is full of it, and she just nods her head. This was a pure hatchet job, and was totally intentional. She had a discussion with Trent Horn, and he might have well have talked to the wall. Instead, she takes as truth some expert whose credentials is "that claims he was Catholic 35 years ago". Gimme a break.
I too was very disappointed in Allie. She really messed up by hosting Mike Gendron on her program. He's a grifter. Allie should have known better. There are plenty of excellent Catholic Apologists to consult about Catholicism. Asking a former Catholic to talk about Catholicism is just a recipe for trouble. 😮
@@JoAnnFuir I've lost all respect for her, and to me she has no credibility at all, on anything. The guy is a grifter, and a liar, and anyone who is developed at all in the faith cab=n see this. She could have done her homework better, but it seems to be very much a personal anti Catholic hatchet job on her part. Very dishonest. That, to me, makes me suspect her honesty on anything.
Thank you for this podcast. Possibly Alliw Stuckey will become a catholic and is getting some pushback because she is friends with Lila Rose.. An issue that Protestants who were born protestant have is fear of Catholics and communion as they somehow see communion as Christ dying each time. They do not understand communion. Former Catholics are often on a very superficial level. of understanding.
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@MS-pm4dc they’re confused about the understanding of the Eucharist. It’s clear as day when you read paul’s epistles. This is what they where doing on the lord’s day gathering to read the scriptures and the breaking of the bread. The Didache speaks about this.
Ive been a Catholic my whole life and I have a beautiful relationship with Christ. I think the issue is that you didn’t want your lift a finger and do anything and expected the Priest to do all for you. Sadly, people that were lost like you - say all Catholics are the same. Yes there are Catholics that do not practice how they should . There are many in other religions that do the same. I wish people would stop generalizing all of us.
I really appreciate Allie and her strong stances on Christian worldview and biblical values. And applying them to the events of today. But yeah…. This was NOT it. I think she was surprised by the comments too. Everyone was the perfect combo of speaking truth in love. The truth that he’s so wrong, and it’s sad his story and where it’s led him. For her part, she was receptive in private message when I nicely said he was wrong, and gave some sources. She thanked me and was open to considering what I sent. That’s good. But she needs to publicly acknowledge that the Catholic faith was grossly misrepresented on her platform. It was that bad. And she’s someone who preaches against narrative over truth. So, over all very sad to see this episode even happened. May the Lord use it though to bring people to the ACTUAL truth.
@@PamTecklenburg yes, very disappointing. Maybe a desperate ploy to remind herself not to be agreeing with Catholics as much as she has been lately? Idk. I’ve been praying for her.
You may have heard 2 minutes too long, but I have seen videos of Mike where he packs a whole show room or lecture theater with lukewarm Catholics who have little clue about their faith. Now is that’s Mike doing or the Catholic Church with lazy catechism instructions up to a 12 year old level?
@@The12thSeahorse Poorly formed Catholics become Protestants. And well formed Protestants become Catholics. In the end, it is our duty to seek the truth.
Thanks be to God. You are addressing this propaganda. I couldn't watch the interview absolutely questionable because it was a torrent of lies & misinformation. If Alli is a professional apologist, all i can say is she needs a large dose of integrity. Thank you. I was sooooo angry i have a 6 year theological degree and I am a practising Catholic that man has sold his soul to the devil. Woe to him at the final judgement. I've just stopped watching a youtube on the recent evidence of authenticity of the shroud; another sloppy protestant effort. God help us.
The One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Churh, with its precedence in Vatican City, Rome, is the only one led by the light of the Holy Spirit, gave us The Bible and its correct interpretation; its interpretation has long been extremely well documented by the Church Fathers and well curated by the Church Doctors and Teachers. There is only one true doctrine of Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior, and it's found only in His only Church. Anything slightly different is from the deciever; it's blasfemy against the creator, Jesus Christ. Those truly deserving of the grace of God have already received the promise in the New Covenant; we can actually see what we are to strive toward when we follow the Saints that follow our loving Jesus. The early Apostolic Church might sound strange to many.
Thank you for making this video my brother! I still don’t understand why our evangelical brethren bring him on their shows? He has been refuted many times!
The nuns when my mom were little did tell her that they were only supposed to get their bible and bible teaching from church and the priests. They were wrong, but it was taught at least in certain places. It was part of the reason that my parents became protestant. We're all back in the church now, thank God.
Probably they meant- as opposed to getting your "Bible teaching" from televangelists. I bet in the Billy Graham "crusade" era it was hard to combat the hold he had over the culture. He was so popular and on TV all the time.
@Mega...: The nuns were not wrong. If your parents became Protestant it's because they listened to non-Catholic interpretations of scripture and doctrine, and that is very sad.
@@roseh9193 The first Billy Graham crusade was in 1947. But it might have been someone before him. "Revivalism" and popular preachers are tale as old as America.
I’ve seen this interview on Shameless Popery and yes thank you for your input. MG was a “devout” Catholic and never read the Bible in thirty five years? Ridiculous and he never offers any real accurate sources.
Maybe I've just been really blessed with good priests, but I have a hard time believing half the things people say about what priests said to them. What priest says "That's not what God means" or "You just don't have enough faith" (heard that more than once). There comes a point where I just don't believe a person's reasons for heresy.
‘Gossip Lady ‘LOL Mother Angelica said: the Protestants get the worst Catholics and the Catholics get the best Protestants. The algorithm just suggested your channel, love your intro!
Thanks for this. Can you post this on Allie’s comments section or write a response so that in a way it will direct Allie’s viewers to this response? I still like her and she is a sister in Christ although strongly misguided, theologically wrong and not in full communion with Christ’s church yet. I have seen her grow in her stance and understanding on life issues (for example she now recognizes that IVF is wrong I believe). And I pray that she will grow and see the truth of Catholic theology. I grew up in the circles she is in (although I knew many people like Mike who misrepresented Catholicism I also knew some incredible Christians who although theologically wrong in many Things greatly loved our Lord). It saddens me To see the abuse to Catholics by them and we do need to pray for them to be open to learning, to humble themselves to learn and ask the Holy Spirit to show her truth.
Only with sacrifice in The Holy Mass there is true worship, Matthew 5:24. There is worship in the protestant congregations but it's not true worship; that in itself is a lie against God and The Holy Scripture. The only reason there's so much falsehood against The Church is because all lies are of The Decierver, Nehustan that first decieved Eve. Masonry, well integrated with Nehustan, has been building the Christian Protestant Church for centuries to conquer the One and Only True Church; Masonry loves the structure of The Catholic Church.
I want to approach this with respect and honesty, but I absolutely grew up in an era when the Catholic church discouraged reading the bible. I don't know why or how wide-spread that negative sentiment was, but Gendron (although I don't agree with his attitude) is correct. My parents didn't read the bible. Having said that, I personally believe Priests and BIshops discouraged bible reading because there are too many contradictions that would raise questions. Conversly, my grandparents read the bible more than my parents. I think Vat-II had a lot to do with this discouragement. I'm not a Sola Scriptura Catholic, however, during difficult times such as these I believe returning to the Scriptures is the only way to be successful in our discerning the truth.
I agree that the church has lacked adult bible studies in many parishes. I have hosted a catholic Bible study at my home for 3 years now. It's nothing huge but we have about 22 people or so that come. Honestly, it has been so fruitful. I definitely believe that the scriptures have a very special and unique place. I would say that they are materially sufficient for the knowledge of salvation. The church gives form to the matter. I've seen a big increase in Catholics reading scriptures. Dr. Scott hahn had a big part in this. Keep reading the scriptures!
@@catholicocdpodcast I do agree, bible reading has become more popular among Catholics. I did the Bible in a Year with Fr Schmidt in 2023. I liked it. He's not my style of leader, but he's a fair reader. I want to do it again in January 2025, but I'm finding a different platform.
As far as acts 4: 12, Catholics say this about Jesus during every mass, " you alone are the holy one, you alone are the Lord, you alone ate the most high Jesus Christ, with the holy Spirit in the glory of God the Father." We believe that Jesus is the only sole mediator between God and man. I have no idea what you are getting at with your verse here
@@catholicocdpodcast why does the catholic religion invoke Mary and dead saints as mediators for Christ and leave him out most of the time, not saying much about acts 4:12, as though God gave as much authority to the catholic religion as he did to Jesus? Talking to the dead by any other name is still necromancy!
@louisvega-oe2sc the catholic church rejects necromancy. I do not have conversations with the dead. I have conversations with God. I will ask for the dead to pray for me , but I understand that God must be the one who allows the saints to know that I ask for their prayers. All of their prayers must go to and through Jesus as the church says that he is the sole unique mediator. If you say we invoke them way more than we do God then I would guess that you have never been to a Catholic mass. The only invocation of the saints at all during the regular Sunday mass is when we say " and I ask blessed Mary ever virgin, all the angels and saints, and you my brothers and sisters to pray for me to the Lord". Out of the 1 hour mass, that is the only invocation that we say every week. We ask all followers of Christ to pray for us TO God.
@@catholicocdpodcast necromancy is necromancy, just like excuses for necromancy is just that, "!EXCUSES!!" Tell that to God? You'll find him in the bible?
Except many homilies don’t exegete scripture, they will preach on something completely different. The church teaches it’s the authority on scripture, and teaches we don’t have the ability to understand scripture without the magisterium. Is a Catholic really able to read it on their own according to the RC own position?
Yes. I am Catholic and have been reading my Bible on my own for decades. I was never ever told not to read the Bible. Our local Catholic Priest encourages us to read our Bibles at home. 😊
6) Martignoni: I gave you the opportunity to put to bed the rumor that you left the Catholic Church because you had divorced and remarried. Since you chose not to do so, I will tell you that I had a guy actually send me Texas public records that apparently show you divorced your first wife, Janis, in 1982, after 13 years of marriage, and married your current wife, Mary J. Aragon (J. being for Jane) in 1984. On your website, it states that you left the Catholic Church in 1984. Huh. I guess that's just a coincidence, right? The reason I am asking about this, is not to pry into your personal life, but to simply see if you are a man who truly abides by the Word of God. I am testing the spirits, as it were, as Scripture tells me to do. Jesus states quite plainly that to divorce your wife and marry another is adultery (Matt 19:9). Plus, Scripture says, "For I hate divorce, says the Lord the God of Israel," (Malachi 2:16). It is not an unheard of occurrence to have Catholics leave the Church because their desires of the flesh override their desires of the spirit. But, the Church abides by the words of Jesus and will not condone their divorce and remarriage. So, in anger and bitterness and with much malice, they leave the Church and then, after the fact, they supposedly find justification in the Bible for leaving and for their adulterous desires. Which, would explain a lot of your hatred towards the Church and motivation for attacking the Church as virulently as you do and for lying about what the Church actually teaches as you do. So, again, I will ask: Are you divorced and remarried...yes or no? If, yes, how do you square that with the words of Jesus in Matt 19? Ps he didn't answer this question. interview with John Martignoni, Bible Christian Society, Apologetics #456
OCD, you're not understanding Trent and grace. According to Trent you are freely given Grace in that though this grace you are able to perform meritorious works worthy of salvation. (due to the free grace)
That source of merit is not the type that actually earns us heaven. Trent is very clear that no one can ever be owed salvation at the end. The point of trent is not just so we get grace to earn heaven. That's not what trent said. Vicarious satisfaction is 100% catholic doctrine and it is in Trent. I've shown that. I read from trent on this episode
📜 Jeremiah 7:2 Stand at the gate of the house of the LORD and proclaim this message there: Hear the word of the LORD, all you of Judah who enter these gates to worship the LORD! 3 Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Reform your ways and your deeds so that I may dwell with you in this place. 4 Do not put your trust in these deceptive words: “The temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD!” ...16 You, now, must not intercede for this people! Do not raise a cry or prayer in their behalf!k Do not press me, for I will not listen to you! 17 Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Judah, in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, their fathers light the fire, and the women knead dough to make cakes for the Queen of Heaven,* while libations are poured out to other gods-all to offend me!l 19 Are they really offending me-oracle of the LORD-or rather themselves, to their own disgrace? 📜 1Corinthians 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an example, and they have been written down as a warning to us, upon whom the end of the ages has come.* 12 Therefore, whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall.* 13 No trial has come to you but what is human. God is faithful and will not let you be tried beyond your strength; but with the trial he will also provide a way out, so that you may be able to bear it. 14 Therefore, my beloved, avoid idolatry.
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@@Sola-Scriptura444 The “Queen of Heaven” that Jeremiah refers to is not Mary. Therefore, he was not condemning Marian devotion. The fact that Jeremiah was not referring to Mary is obvious, since he was writing around 600 B.C., not the first century A.D. In his day, the title “Queen of Heaven” was used to refer to various pagan deities. There were many such deities, as every pagan pantheon had a major, ruling deity who was depicted as a king in heaven. Correspondingly, various goddesses were regarded as queens in heaven. Scholars are not sure which of these deities Jeremiah was referring to. It may have been a Canaanite goddess such as Ashtoreth (the wife of Ba’al), Asherah (the wife of El), or the warrior goddess Anat. Whichever he meant, it is clear that the condemned devotion was taking place in his own day, for Jeremiah refers to it as “what they are doing in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem” (Jer. 7:17). He also promises that God’s wrath would fall on members of his own generation as a result of this practice (Jer. 44:24-30). The fact that “Queen of Heaven” was used for a pagan deity in Jeremiah’s day does not mean that it can’t also have a legitimate use. Words and phrases gain their meaning and connotations from the way they are used in a particular community, and they are not permanently ruined just because pagans once used them. As noted, the same pagan pantheons that had Queens of Heaven also had Kings of Heaven, but that didn’t stop the biblical authors from referring to the true God as a King (Ps. 29:10, 47:2, 6-7, 103:19; Isa. 6:5; Mal. 1:14; 1 Tim. 1:17; Rev. 15:3, etc.). They even used the exact title “King of Heaven” for him (Dan. 4:37; Tob. 1:18, 13:7). The question thus is not whether “Queen of Heaven” was once used for a pagan deity, but whether it can have a different and appropriate sense. As we
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@@Sola-Scriptura444 Daughters of kings are your lovely wives; a princess arrayed in Ophir’s gold* comes to stand at your right hand. III 11 Listen, my daughter, and understand; pay me careful heed. Forget your people and your father’s house,* 12 that the king might desire your beauty. He is your lord; 13 dhonor him, daughter of Tyre. Then the richest of the people will seek your favor with gifts. 14 All glorious is the king’s daughter as she enters,e her raiment threaded with gold; 15 In embroidered apparel she is led to the king. The maids of her
Francisco Guzman 📜 Ecclesiastes 1:5The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. 6The wind blows to the southnand turns to the north; round and round it goes, ever returning on its course. 7All streams flow into the sea, yet the sea is never full. To the place the streams come from, there they return again. 8All things are wearisome, more than one can say. The eye never has enough of seeing, nor the ear its fill of hearing. 9What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. 10Is there anything of which one can say, “Look! This is something new”? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time. 📜 Matthew 7:20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
When I was a devout Catholic I read from cover to cover the King James Bible and the scales came off my eyes, I was very excited and bought a case of Bibles to present to our priest and I requested to give these Bible away free to the people. He looked at me and said I can’t do that grab that case of Bibles and walked off with them. “I felt like I was going to be burned at the stake. I had bought two cases and put the other box with free on it at a church function without the priest knowing about it, some time later I saw the church secretary and she said what a good idea and those Bibles went fast, I told her she could look for another case that the priest hid.
I don't think that the king james bible is terrible but I could understand why your priest would not want that translation being given out. It is not regarded as a great version of the bible since it is missing books and it has some verses that are more of interpretations rather than translations. You should have used a different version. The priest definitely should not have took them from you. I teach 8th grade ccd and we give bibles out to every student and we use them in class
@@catholicocdpodcastThe case of Bibles I presented to him was the Catholic version “ St.Joseph NAB, I have since read the Bible trail and modern Bibles have changed some doctrine. I have many versions to prove it.
@johnp.6043 I would encourage you to look deeper and see what scripture really says. I'm glad that you have a deep love for scripture . The catholic church could use you and you could use the catholic church.
Why would Mike, who was a Roman Catholic for 35 years, spew lies in the name of Jesus Christ. If anything, he should be someone we should carefully listen to, if a person truly desires God's truth. Those who are of God's truth hear His voice, because His word IS truth. In the video, the commentator is most definitely not exuding the Spirit of Christ. God's people know how to bring correction to another in the Spirit of love, for it is delineated in His word. The recurring accusations towards someone else, whom the commentator does not agree with, is deplorable for any Christian. Instead of hateful, accusatory, name-calling (like 'idiot'), and defensive pot shots, so that the Roman Catholic social media crowd can feel better about their religion, should try getting into dialogue with another whom he does not agree with. If the commentator has anything to say afterwards, then he should go social.
I've had many great discussions with protestants that i respect and admire. Mike is just not one of those people. My job here was to show that he lies about what the Catholic church teaches. I proved it by quoting the catholic interpretation of the scriptures from quoting the Catechism of the Catholic church and fron the council of trent. I proved that Mike is lying. I called him a lying idiot and he said I'm going to hell for being Catholic. Which one is worse?
New councils build upon older councils. They dont replace older councils. Vatican 2 was not a council meant to answer the questions and accusations of the protestants. The council of trent was
I’m praying for mike, as he goes against the beast system!! There are 1 billion 300 million Catholic followers. I pray also for them , that by the grace and mercy of God , He will open their eyes to His truth. ( Matt 7:13-14 ) “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and MANY there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.”
You must know that Christ is the head of the Catholic Church which HE build only one Chutch with the authority of HIS FATHER, LORD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH through HIS Apostle Simon Peter not even through His 11 Apostles BUT ONLY ONE CHURCH and the popes are the successors right from HIS Apostle Simon Peter only. And you must know that Jesus Christ is always presence with us in the BLESSED SACRAMENT waiting for all of us sinners to believe to repent and receive HIM with our humble hearts IN THE FORM OF BREAD AND WINE, BECAUSE JESUS IS AN EMMANUEL which means GOD WITH US. You must know that only CHRIST can build the Church because THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BUILDING, BUT IT IS THE BODY OF CHRIST WHICH WE RECEIVE HIM IN THE FORM OF BREAD AND WINE. Do you know that JESUS prayed for our Church which He build through His Apostle Simon Peter only? Luke 22:31-32 - Jesus prayed for our Church "SIMON, SIMON, BEHOLD, SATAN DEMANDED TO HAVE YOU, THAT HE MIGHT SIFT YOU LIKE WHEAT, BUT I HAVE PRAYED FOR YOU, THAT YOUR FAITH MAY NOT FAIL, AND WHEN YOU HAVE TURNED AGAIN STRENGTHEN YOUR BRETHREN". John 7:18 - Jesus said "he who on his own authority seek his own glory, but he who seeks the glory of HIM who sent Him is true and in Him there is no falsehood". John 10:25-26 - Jesus said "I told you and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness to Me; BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELONG TO MY SHEEP". John 21:17 - Jesus said to Simon Peter "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" Peter was grieved because Jesus said to him the third time "do you love Me?" And Peter said to Jesus "LORD, you know everything; you know that I love you" Jesus said to Peter "FEED MY SHEEP". Mark 4:11-12 - Jesus said to His Apostles "to you has been given the secret of the Kingdom of GOD, but for those outside everything is in parables; so that they may indeed see but not perceive and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn again and be forgiven". Mark 13:5-6 - Jesus warned us "take heed that no one leads you astray. Many will come in My name, saying I am he and they will lead many astray". Mark 13:13 - Jesus said "and you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved". Mark 13-22-23 - Jesus warned us "FALSE CHRISTS AND FALSE PROPHETS WILL ARISE AND SHOW SIGNS AND WONDERS TO LEAD ASTRAY, IF POSSIBLE THE ELECT. BUT TAKE HEED, I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL THINGS BEFOREHAND".
lol. Where did the Bible come from? It wasn't the King James Version in 1604! And why do you people quote proof texts out of context all the time, it's pathetic.
I'm praying for every catholic who has to stand up against the beast system of Protestantism. People who think their man-made churches and their false gospel is the truth. Their lies are being exposed little by little.
@@Truthseekingcatholic I am praying for every protestants who always rejects and protest against HIS CHURCH AND HIS WORDS. CHRIST BUILD ONLY ONE CHURCH WITH THE AUTHORITY OF HIS FATHER, LORD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH THROUGH HIS APOSTLE SIMON PETER ONLY AND THE POPES ARE THE SUCCESSORS RIGHT FROM HIS APOSTLE SIMON PETER. But now there are thousand of churches build by men himself with their own authority they REJECT AND PROTEST AGAINST HIS CHURCH. YOU MUST KNOW THAT ONLY CHRIST CAN BUILD HIS CHURCH AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE CALLED CHRISTIANS BECAUSE WE ARE THE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST'S CHURCH. Mathew 12:30 - Jesus said "he who is not with Me is against Me and he who does not gather with Me scatters". Luke 9:5 - Jesus said "and wherever they do not receive you, when you leave that town shake off the dust from you feet as a testimony against them". Luke 9:25 - Jesus said "FOR WHAT DOES IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES OR FORFEITS HIMSELF?". Mark 13:5-6 - Jesus warned us "take heed that no one leads you astray. Many will come in My name, saying I am he and they will leads many astray". Mark 13:13 - Jesus said "and you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved". Mark 13:22-23 - Jesus warned us "FALSE CHRISTS AND FALSE PROPHETS WILL ARISE AND SHOW SIGNS AND WONDERS TO LEAD ASTRAY, IF POSSIBLE, THE ELECT. BUT TAKE HEED, I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL THINGS BEFOREHAND". Luke 22:31-32 - Jesus prayed for our Church which He build only one church through His Apostle Simon Peter only "SIMON, SIMON, BEHOLD, SATAN DEMANDED TO HAVE YOU, THAT HE MIGHT SIFT YOU LIKE WHEAT, BUT I HAVE PRAYED FOR YOU THAT YOUR FAITH MAY NOT FAIL AND WHEN YOU HAVE TURNED AGAIN STRENGTHEN YOUR BRETHREN". John 6:51 - Jesus said "I am the living bread which came down from heaven, if any one eats of this bread he will live forever and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world IS MY FLESH". John 6:64-65 - Jesus said "but there are some of you that do not believe. For Jesus knew from the first who those were that not believe and who it was that betray Him. And He said "this is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless it is granted him by the Father". John 6:67-68 - Jesus said to His 12 Apostles "do you also wish to go away?". Simon Peter answered Him "LORD TO WHOM SHALL WE GO? YOU HAVE THE WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE". John 7:18 - Jesus said "he who on his own authority seek his own glory but he who seeks the glory of Him who sent Him is true and in Him there is no falsehood". John 10:25-26 - Jesus answered "I told you and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness to Me; BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELONG TO MY SHEEP". John 12:48-49-50 - Jesus said "he who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings has a judge; the word that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day. FOR I HAVE NOT SPOKEN ON MY OWN AUTHORITY; THE FATHER WHO SENT ME HAS HIMSELF GIVEN ME COMMANDMENT WHAT TO SAY AND WHAT TO SPEAK. AND I KNOW THAT HIS COMMANDMENT IS ETERNAL LIFE. WHAT I SAY, THEREFORE, I SAY AS THE FATHER HAS BIDDEN ME" John 15:1 - Jesus said "I am the vine and My Father is the vine dresser". John 15:4 - Jesus said "abide in Me and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me". John 15:6 - Jesus said "if a man does not abide in Me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers, and the branches are gathered thrown into the fire and burned". John 16:1 - "I HAVE SAID ALL THIS TO YOU TO KEEP YOU FROM FALLING AWAY". John 21:15 - Jesus said to Simon Peter "Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these?" He said to Jesus "YES LORD, you know that I love you" Jesus said to Peter "FEED MY LAMBS". John 21:16 - a second time Jesus said to Peter "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" Peter said to Jesus "YES LORD, you know that I love you" Jesus said to Peter "TEND MY SHEEP". John 21:17 - Jesus said to Peter the third time "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" Peter was grieved because Jesus said to him the third time "do you love Me?" Peter said to Jesus "LORD, you know everything; you know that I love you" Jesus said to Peter "FEED MY SHEEP". Mark 4:11-12 - Jesus said to His Apostles "to you has been given the secret of the Kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, so that they may indeed see but not perceive and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn again and be forgiven".
It is the Catholic assertion that they are in actuality made righteous. First of all, if someone was really righteous as Jesus is, then he would always have to be actually sinless as Jesus is, and perfect in love, patience, peace, joy, gentleness, goodness, faith,etc. You are all of that, right? OCD, did you take time to examine a little of the context of what Paul is saying? Or are you just making it fit your agenda? Can we look at that verse again? 2 Corinthians 5:21 [21]For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Please notice that it doesn't just end with "made (or become) righteous. But ends with"in Him " That makes a difference. Paul always qualifies it with"in Him " or "in Christ " . This is very important because Christ himself is the righteousness of God. Not us, Not the angels, no one else, and that will be so for ALL eternity. There is no and never will be righteousness outside of Christ. John 16:8,10 [8]And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [10]Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; This verse reveals the truth that there is NO righteousness in the world. Righteousness is properly found only "in Christ". This can be demonstrated by Paul's affirmation in Philippians where he spells out that he doesn't have his own righteousness but an alien one... Philippians 3:9 [9]And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: If we had an actual righteousness then that would not be faith or by faith. Romans 4:5-6 [5]But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. [6]Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Notice that faith is COUNTED for righteousness. In v. 6 we see that righteousness is by "imputation". Strong's Number - G3049 Greek: λογίζομαι Transliteration: logizomai Pronunciation: log-id'-zom-ahee Definition: Middle voice from G3056; to take an inventory that is estimate (literally or figuratively): - conclude (ac-) count (of) + despise esteem impute lay number reason reckon suppose think (o KJV Usage: think (9x), impute (8x), reckon (6x), count (5x), account (4x), suppose (2x), reason (1x), number (1x), misc (5x). Occurs: 49 In verses: 40 The word here doesn't mean to"change" but rather to account one as such. But this is no arbitrary thing, but it is because God has placed us "in Christ" and that is our place for eternity. Because of this, we will inherit everything that Jesus inherited. It is why we operate with His authority. I hope you might be able to understand what I'm saying. It's only what the Bible reveals.
My friend you wrote all of this to disprove a belief that the Catholic church doesn't even believe. When we say that we are made righteous, we don't mean that we now become God or that we are perfect or that we become a source of righteousness. What we are saying in that the righteous love of God is poured out INTO our hearts. Jesus truly lives in us. Therefore, there is righteousness in us because Christ is in us. A lantern that is un lit has no light, but a lantern that has the flame of Christ truly becomes light. Not that the lantern itself is light but that the lantern has the light of Christ in it. Your Philippians verse shows that Paul tried to produce his own light by his own works. It didn't work. He saw that he could be a sharer in the light of Christ ( a sharer in the divine nature) and he entered into christ realizing that all of his previous self righteous works were like filthy rags. I in know way reject the credited righteousness of Christ that is applied to us based on his satisfaction sacrifice on the cross. But we are only in Christ if Christ is in us ( romans 8). I agree with everything you said as long as you don't believe that the righteousness of Christ only remains outside of us ( extra nos). Ps I have no agenda. I have never monetized my channel even though I can. I make 0 dollars off of this.
"It is the Catholic assertion that they are in actuality made righteous" No it isn't. You misunderstand the term. You have wasted your time arguing about something that does not exist!
Raised Protestant. Reading the Bible Protestants never lined up to me. I was told Catholics where evil. I finally went to a Mass and haven't missed a week since. At 57 I'm starting RCIA this fall.
That is awesome! Use the good truth that you learned in the protestant church, thank God that they introduced you to Christ and be thankful that God has graced you with the knowledge of the Catholic faith. I'll be praying for you
@catholicocdpodcast Thank you. I'll pray for you also Brother
Praise be to God!
@timblanton8252 that is truly awesome! Pope Peter and the Early Church was Catholic by Joe Heishmeir and Answering Orthodoxy by Michael Lofton all helped solidify my faith for me, and I was an atheist until 2019
beautiful! praise God for your journey!
I want all Catholics to pray and fast for the conversion of Mike Gendron and Allie Beth Stuckey.
I think Mike Gendron is lost. He was corrected by many people but he don't try to be humble and correct himself.
I said a Divine mercy chaplet for them both today
I have been praying for Allie Beth. I believe she's questioning some of what she's been told. She seems to be too much on a quest to "expose" the Catholic Church.
@elizabethshearer8390: I think you have a point. Protestantism tends to define itself by how much it diverges from the Catholic Church.
They love to quote Ephesians chapter 2:8-9 and yet for some reason they conveniently leave out verse 10 which says "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."
Yes, and the Catholic church understands this perfectly. We don't deserve to be brought into the Trinity's relationship of selfless love. We are brought in by grace through faith. Once brought into this relationship of love and infused with the love of God, then we are expected to do the works of love we were meant to do
@@catholicocdpodcastalso, don't forget Mike came up with this refutation all on his own from picking up the Bible and reading it for the first time.
If Mike Gendron was a mass attending Catholic he must have been sleeping or his mind was on something else during the celebration.
You are right. I became a Catholic in 1972. I remember that the saying "Ignorance of the Bible is ignorance of Christ" was in the very air we were breathing in the Church at that time.
Mike Gendron left the Church 12 years after I entered it.
I do not find his story credible.
People be like “I was raised Catholic I know what they believe” (they then proceeded to misrepresent Catholicism) and when you call them out on it and correct them. then they ask you, Well what does the church believe then? And I just say “well I thought you knew what it taught?” 😂 they hate what they THINK the Catholic Church is. That’s the problem!
We ought to pray for Gendron because he knows what he's doing and the Lord knows what he's doing. I would not want to be in his position on the day of judgement.
That's true. He needs our prayers
I agree. The lies need to stop. I would love to see him come back to the Church
Mike been told a ton about Catholic teachings but ignores people
Gendron refuses to read the Church Fathers too. He's willfully ignorant.
@@StringofPearls55There’s absolutely no reason for him to be so ignorant of what the Church really teaches or Church history. The catechism is free online, many early Christian documents are free online. He has no excuse.
When I was 11 years old a well dressed gentleman came to our rural house and knocked on the door. My father answered and the two started a conversation. I soon heard my father citing scripture from memory. The well dressed gentleman asked my father if he was a Christian. My father answered in the affirmative; he mentioned that he was a Catholic. The well dressed man stepped back looked at my father’s head and then looked around behind him. After a few moments the well dressed man quipped; I thought Catholics had horns and tails. My father laughed and reassured the man that no Catholics don’t have horns or tails. We never saw that man again. 🤣😂🤣😂
Great show, brother. Thanks. I used to like Allie Beth Stuckey and Mike Gendron during my years as a Protestant. Now I can see how badly misguided they are. My family and I converted to Catholicism in June 2021. Pray for us to grow in the faith. ❤🙏
I will be praying for you
I pray Allie Beth and Mike Gendron will come home to the Catholic Church 🙏🏿
They’re going to have to renounce their love of $$$ and clickbait though
Mike Gendron started talking to me in the comment section on Allie’s channel.
He said, “Why do Catholics always point people to the uninspired works of men instead of the inspired word of God”
My response was “when there is a consensual agreement between all of our Christian ancestors on doctrines of faith such as the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist or Baptism of infants, etc... then it's called "unanimous consent" of the Fathers.
This is not a either/or question (that is has to be either the bible or early Church Fathers)... The two should be harmonious with each other.
With all due respect, why would you want to just turn away from this source of knowledge and just automatically believe that your interpretation of scripture is correct?”
Never heard back from him after that.🤷🏻♂️
But there isn’t a consensual agreement between all the church fathers on what Rome believes today. There wasn’t a single person at the Nicae 325AD that believed what Rome believes today, for example.
@@KnightFel You made a claim... Based on what source of evidence? Are you talking about baptism, the Eucharist, etc.?
Does anyone honestly believe that Mike Gendron just picked up the Bible, read it for himself, and started spewing stock Protestant arguments like Ephesians 2? If anything he meet a Protestant who interpreted the Bible for him.
@peterhenryzepeda3484 i always use Ephesians 4 11-14. Verse 14 is Protestantism in a nutshell. Do they honestly believe the church is just a body of believers with no structure and each one teaching something different especially baptism lmao.
Just 2:8,9!
Please, for the love of God, don't read 2:10 or any of chapter 4!
@@danvankouwenberg7234 hey pal Ephesians 8:9 is talking about the mosaic law nice try. This is what Protestants don’t get. Off course you have to read the rest because you have to use context within scriptures. It’s not one verse just like they do witn the bible verses. They make a shipwreck out of it.
That's what I was trying to say. Sorry if it wasn't clear.
@@danvankouwenberg7234 ah ok cool.
I’m a fairly new convert from Protestantism starting RCIA this year with my wife and kids this fall and I can tell you this Mike Gendron is exactly what we get day in and day out about the church. It’s a shame that people take this guy seriously and an even bigger shame that Allie takes this boomer seriously shame on both
What type of protestant were you before?
God bless you and your family 🙏😊
@@catholicocdpodcast evangelical
@@GabrielHernandez-uc2brwelcome home. I was nazarene and assemblies of God
My husband was an Episcopal Priest for almost 20 years. We both became Catholic in 2012. So glad we did! 😊
I DOUBT his priest uncle said that.
I bet that's Mike's FALSE interpretation of what the uncle said!
This channel rocks!
We need more of this STRAIGHT, BLUNT call outs or Anti-Catholic LIES!
I’ve known about him since the mid 90’s. His script hasn’t changed one bit in 30 years.
" Weak Catholics leave the Catholic Church and Strong Protestants become Catholics. ".....I believe Scott Hann said these words.
Scott hahn was huge in my conversion
Imagine making a living constantly lying and refusing to engage with the accusations
Even satan and the demons know theology and how to twist it
Already got the cliff notes on this absolute trainwreck and it was BAD. Cant wait to dig in, thanks for digging into this one brother.
You are welcome. This interview hurt my stomach. I let em have it on this one.
Sometimes i think Mike Gendron made the whole thing up cause he found out how to make money. So glad you refuted this man!
@michelleheltz6116, it is all about the $$$ for Gendron. Like the prosperity gospel preachers, Mike is just another grifter who cons poor suckers out of their hard-earned money every day.
He does have a church that he is pastor of in a strip mall far from his over One Million Dollar gated community home. He is rarely there because of his travel schedule, which he charges fees for speaking, along with the flight and hotel rooms for him and his assistants, and the churches have to order his books for sale during his talks.
Allie Beth Stuckey jumped the shark on that interview. Too bad, I can't watch her now, I won't do it.
I think all catholics need to stop watching her
As a Catholic, I have no interest in spending my time listening to a Protestant. Their goal is to get you to doubt your Catholic faith. Why would you expose yourself to their lies?
She's awfully dishonest when she speaks about the Church
@@catholicocdpodcast, the New Testament is full of instructions which tell us to have nothing to do with these people. Only God can convince them, all we can do is pray for them. I have stopped arguing with protestants on social media. I state the Truth which only the Catholic Church teaches, I warn them per Titus 3:9-11, and then I move on.
Do the right thing. Pray for her conversion.
I assume his uncle and his mother have since long passed... sooo Mike is just not lying, he's also misrepresenting the position of people who can't no longer defend themselves.
He is online making liars, deceivers and idiots out of his own relatives for opportunities and money.
Pray for his lost soul. He needs it. 😢
I actually prayed for his mother and uncle at mass Sunday. I also prayed for any lack of Charity on my part
She didn't even clean The Bible. 😂
Lies have no boundaries...therefore, I question if he had an uncle that was a priest.
Any religious denomination weather it is Catholicism or a Protestantism preaches a different Gospel with doctrines of lies will all be judge to be liars and will be sent in the lake of fire of hell if they do not repent and be born-again.
As we all know it only takes one lie to end up in hell. Look what happened to Adam and Eve they committed one lie and they were kicked out of the garden the same for liars will be kicked out of the kingdom of God. The Bible says all liars will have their part in the lake of fire and the wage of sin is death.
Since all these two denominations have existed for centuries has committed many lies by taking out true meaning doctrines from the apostolic fathers and adding or replacing with false new doctrines to justify their narrative belief and by reading them out of context and not taking at it's face value will be judge accordingly. All religions who are not true to the words of the inspired words of God in the Bible it is not the church of Jesus Christ but a synagogue of Satan.
It will mean nothing to God for you to keep defending your religion if you let men to dictate what it says unless your correct your teaching habit by letting God speak to you through the Holy Spirit not by men's authority as if they know better then what Jesus has preached.
If anyone is upset what other people says about your religion study deeper the Bible more for the truth and find out why they are acting this way before getting upset with them.
He did have an uncle who was a priest.
@@jpd4676:
The Catholic Church, Catholicism, is not a denomination.
It is The Church!
I guess if he never opened the Bible, he did not see that most every Catholic Bible published before and many since Vatican II have a prayer recommended for Catholics to pray asking the Holy Ghost to inspire their hearts before and after reading the Scriptures, let alone the many Indulgences that were available for those who prayerfully spent 15 to 20 minutes a day reading the Holy Writ.
Mike Gendron’s arguments are the old tired cliches that have been around for decades. I would LOVE for him to try and evangelize me.
Me when I'm in a lying competition and my opponent is Mike Gendron: 😱
(I was going to lose anyway; bearing false witness is a sin. I'm just surprised to be competing with the world champion.)
God help both of them please to come to the full knowledge of Jesus Christ and the church that he started, so sad for both of them. 😥
Hahahaha ewww dust. Why didnt they just dust that coffee table 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
Stuckey is so prideful. It doesn't surprise me that she would host him
Ferris from the How to be Christian channel does an excellent job refuting her false beliefs.
Cause Protestantism sort of makes you your own God in a Sense. Because the ultimate authority on sola scriptora is the interpreter! People twist the Bible to there own destruction. The reason why a lot of Americans don’t like the Catholic Church is because they are born into this idea of “freedom” which isn’t really freedom. It basically means “I can do whatever I want and so I’m not gonna listen to an authority” lol but freedom should really mean “I’m not controlled by my desires” but yeah Americans don’t like authority and so the idea of having to submit to the church is uncomfortable to them. Ironically Jesus passed down his authority so we should listen to those who have the authority. The apostolic chain of succession. Etc
His fans all have itching ears.
@@brucebarber4104 You are right! But then, Ferris does a good job in everything I have seen him do.
I feel bad for Stuckey who is a good hearted Christian woman, but she has been so misled.
I think she must have known that inviting Mike Gendron on her show would cause a ruckus. Perhaps she is antiCatholic herself? Only God knows the truth.
Well said. I can't believe Stucky would have someone as dishonest as Gendron on her show. But when it's all about the views, then that's all that matters. You're right. She's basically becoming a modern Jerry Springer.
Her little story about the "devout Catholic" who never heard of John 3:16 and also didn't realize that you could have a personal relationship with Christ.
This doesn't sound like a true story. Give me a break!
Because she is a dishonest, lair herself
Of all the serious Catholics she could've put on her show, this is immature of her
@catholicocdpodcast i unsubscribed from allie beth stuckley channel. i previously subscribed because she speaks on other issues (like anti abortion support). but, i saw her sat with Trent Horn and went through all the various things catholics believed- so either she forgot all of that or she deliberately sat through that and allowed that idiot to mis-represent catholics. i now make no exceptions - i do not subscribe to channels that are dishonest. she has had many catholics on her show, and she should have known better to challenge Mike Grendon.
She planned these interviews in this order for a reason. She doesn’t want to lose her Catholic followers but she wants to do what Protestants do; convert Catholics with constant gaslighting arguments.
One of the stories Mike has invented recently is that when he was a teen, he was a "good friend" of Padre Pio. He claims he went to visit him with his uncle, a priest and they would "Co-celebrate" sic. the Mass.
It's well known that because of his age, Padre Pio was given an indult to continue to offer what we now call the EF. The rubrics of the EF did not allow for "Con-Celebration" Mike has admitted to me that he and his uncle did not speak Italian, even now as he prepares to start a mission to Catholics in Italy, he needs a translator. While it is true that Con-celebration was permitted in the Latin Rite from 1964 until it was made universal in 1970 with the Missal of Pope St. Paul VI, during the years of 1964 to his death in 1968 it was only permitted for large gatherings such as General Meetings of Religious Orders with the Superior General or a Cardinal as the Main Celebrant. Not what Mike describes as Mike (a lay teenager) and his uncle "CoCelebrating" with Padre Pio. '
It is hard to imagine that a priest who was non-Capuchin missionary to the South Pacific, and his nephew would have time to become what Mike says he was, "A Good Friend" of Padre Pio for another reason. Padre Pio would take two to three hours to offer a low Mass, then would spend up to eight or more hours hearing confessions. He also had to eat, sleep, and participate in community activities like joining his fellow Capuchins in praying the Office. He had to work with the people who assisted him with his correspondence, not just because of the volume of mail, but also because the letters came from around the world and he needed not just typists but bi-lingual assistants, leaving very little time to become a good friend of a priest and teen who did not speak Italian to become chums.
If priests did tell the guy not to read it, it's because he might've misinterpreted the bible like so many do.
And the priest was right. Just look at Mike now.
Plenty of lazy ex-Catholics that didn't pray, didn't read the bible ,didn't care about Jesus that fall away. You didn't fall away because of the church but because of your wretched attitude but will never admit it. Taking responsibility is difficult and it is easy to blame your priest, church, your mommy and daddy and God knows who else for your shortcomings.
Weak Catholics become Protestant and
Strong Protestants become Catholic!
If someone sets out to really learn and goes back to the beginning.
Learning what the Church Father's taught will send you on a beautiful journey, and you will become Catholic at the end of the day!
Sadly, most average Protestants have not read beyond the Reformation.
God bless! 🙏
Mike Gendron is lying for a living through his teeth. If he grew up in a family that was not allowed to read or study the Bible, then I question if he was ever Catholic at all. Every parish priest I know is trying to get his flock to read and study the Bible seriously. The Catholic families I know, including my own household, have whole home libraries of Bibles, commentaries, resource books, and scholarly works on biblical subjects. Catechism should be a regular part of every Catholic home. 🙏
@petertherock7340 Protestants based their faith on the bible because that’s all they have. The problem is they wanna be their own pope and interpret the passage. That’s why the gospel has to be safeguarded by the truth. In the parishes they have bible study class. Need apologetics class as well.
The difference between Catholic and Protestant scripture reading is that as Catholics, we are not to rely on our own understanding of scripture. This is what has led to so much division in the body of Christ. This is why we have the Catechism so we can know what the church teaches without creating our own erroneous interpretation. Protestants learn to quote scriptures out of context ascribing a meaning the context doesn’t convey. That is an evil and diabolical way to use scripture. In fact, this is the way Satan tempted Eve to interpret truth in a different way than God instructed. We shouldn’t be offended as Catholics. Satan has his minions and never sleeps. We should pray for them for they will be judged for what they are doing.
“Thou shalt not bear false witness” - Clearly he didn’t read that part in his Bible.
In order to receive the blessing of the sacrifice one must eat what was on the alter. For example, at the first Passover people ate the lamb. (Exodus 12) Likewise, one must eat the flesh of the Lamb of God, the body of Christ in order to receive the blessing of His crucifixion. (John 6:51)
@bigdog1106 i wonder how protys interpret malachi 1 verse 11. I mean a sermon and playing rock music and raising your hands in the air is not true worship. The old always proceeds to the new.
Bigdog, the OT is but a shadow of new, or the real. An outward performance is not the real worship. The real worship is "in spirit" or by faith. It happens in the heart. Even so I can feel when our worship is breaking thru.
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Philippians 3:3
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
It's not about the flesh, but faith.
@@jeromepopiel388 what is worshipping him in spirit and truth to you? Just curious?
It is worship by faith and truth. We have faith that we worship with perfect righteousness all due to His perfect obedience and His perfect sacrifice.
It is looking to Christ and not at ourselves.
2 Corinthians 5:7
[7](For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
What does it mean to you to walk by faith?
God bless you. Thank you for the awesome video 😊🙏
You are so welcome
Gendron's ignorance is shamelessly daring; he's a copy of a copy.
That woman is hateful without a doubt
@KizerSoze9mm i would hate to be a Calvinist. Didn’t know Jesus was a tyrant. Just another false teacher .
She was terrible in this episode,
Especially in her talk about knowing only a small number of Catholics and than bashing their ignorance. You don’t straw man the worst of something but argue against the heart of something. For Catholics- unlike Protestants- you know exactly what their theology and positions are so argue against those.
Allie is intellectually dishonest. Her hate for the Catholic Church trumps her love for truth. When her and Candances husband spoke, it was frustrating how many basic things she got wrong about Catholics, like girl, do a basic Google search.
She's been conditioned over decades.
Hi again Nick just came home from Mass and watched your latest video. It was brilliant as usual keep up the important work and may God bless you
I honestly wonder if Mike was deeply hurt or abused in some way by a priest or another Catholic. If so, I feel for him, and will pray for his healing so he can come back to the faith. Otherwise, I don’t understand the willful ignorance and the persistence in spreading the blatant lies. It seems like his way to get back at something that hurt him.
No he looks like he wants an annulment for his first marriage and he went off the rail after the church denied him that, after the situation his pride kick off
@@YiriUbic3793 well, if that’s true, that makes a lot of sense. I’ll pray his eyes are opened to the truth and to his own pride and error.
Catholic Church teaches relationships with Jesus like a married couples giving themselves completely to Jesus and receiving from Him all the love and graces. It's a marital relationship.
That was the homily today by a missionary priest .
That's chapter 5, silly!
Just read 2:8,9 over and over.
At 55:57 Mike says he doesn't know the exact day and month the Lord saved him, but he remembers everything the Catholic Church never taught him as old as he is. This man is damn false witness bearer. Thanks bro for the video.
Preach brother this needs told preach
Is everyone else finding this amusing? I do like to listen to you!
Thanks
My dad converted to the catholic faith and purchased a catholic bible. Obviously he didn’t get the message he was not supposed to read it since it’s tattered and the spine is broken. I’m not even certain if my dad received a valid confirmation without the invocation of thou shall not read the holy scripture.
I know catholic people who read the Bible!
Wow...!!
I used to respect Allie and her views. After this I cannot even look at her. I apologize for that, it is uncharitable and sinful. Got to hit the Confessional. Gendron is full of it, and she just nods her head. This was a pure hatchet job, and was totally intentional. She had a discussion with Trent Horn, and he might have well have talked to the wall. Instead, she takes as truth some expert whose credentials is "that claims he was Catholic 35 years ago". Gimme a break.
I too was very disappointed in Allie. She really messed up by hosting Mike Gendron on her program. He's a grifter. Allie should have known better. There are plenty of excellent Catholic Apologists to consult about Catholicism. Asking a former Catholic to talk about Catholicism is just a recipe for trouble. 😮
@@JoAnnFuir I've lost all respect for her, and to me she has no credibility at all, on anything. The guy is a grifter, and a liar, and anyone who is developed at all in the faith cab=n see this. She could have done her homework better, but it seems to be very much a personal anti Catholic hatchet job on her part. Very dishonest. That, to me, makes me suspect her honesty on anything.
Well the funny thing is we agree that your saved by a state of grace 😂
I am in tears, this was so funny and so true, love the content brother
Lol thanks hopefully people knew I was joking about his mom and uncle.
I wonder if Mike has dementia? For his salvation I hope he does and he is excused on judgement day. Ally however has no excuse for spreading lies.
Thank you for this podcast. Possibly Alliw Stuckey will become a catholic and is getting some pushback because she is friends with Lila Rose.. An issue that Protestants who were born protestant have is fear of Catholics and communion as they somehow see communion as Christ dying each time. They do not understand communion. Former Catholics are often on a very superficial level. of understanding.
@MS-pm4dc they’re confused about the understanding of the Eucharist. It’s clear as day when you read paul’s epistles. This is what they where doing on the lord’s day gathering to read the scriptures and the breaking of the bread. The Didache speaks about this.
Ive been a Catholic my whole life and I have a beautiful relationship with Christ. I think the issue is that you didn’t want your lift a finger and do anything and expected the Priest to do all for you. Sadly, people that were lost like you - say all Catholics are the same. Yes there are Catholics that do not practice how they should . There are many in other religions that do the same. I wish people would stop generalizing all of us.
Me too. 😊
I really appreciate Allie and her strong stances on Christian worldview and biblical values. And applying them to the events of today. But yeah…. This was NOT it. I think she was surprised by the comments too. Everyone was the perfect combo of speaking truth in love. The truth that he’s so wrong, and it’s sad his story and where it’s led him.
For her part, she was receptive in private message when I nicely said he was wrong, and gave some sources. She thanked me and was open to considering what I sent. That’s good. But she needs to publicly acknowledge that the Catholic faith was grossly misrepresented on her platform. It was that bad. And she’s someone who preaches against narrative over truth. So, over all very sad to see this episode even happened. May the Lord use it though to bring people to the ACTUAL truth.
I was disappointed in Allie in her choice of person to interview about the Catholic faith.
@@PamTecklenburg yes, very disappointing. Maybe a desperate ploy to remind herself not to be agreeing with Catholics as much as she has been lately? Idk. I’ve been praying for her.
I was very surprised because she seemed (before) very respectful towards Catholicism, other Catholic hosts, etc.
I thought this video was brilliant and I liked all the sarcasm. lol.
I can’t take Mike Gendron. I heard for 2 minutes too long and never again.
You may have heard 2 minutes too long, but I have seen videos of Mike where he packs a whole show room or lecture theater with lukewarm Catholics who have little clue about their faith.
Now is that’s Mike doing or the Catholic Church with lazy catechism instructions up to a 12 year old level?
@@The12thSeahorse Poorly formed Catholics become Protestants. And well formed Protestants become Catholics. In the end, it is our duty to seek the truth.
You Italian Americans sure dont play around when it comes to apologetics. 👍
Thanks be to God. You are addressing this propaganda. I couldn't watch the interview absolutely questionable because it was a torrent of lies & misinformation. If Alli is a professional apologist, all i can say is she needs a large dose of integrity. Thank you. I was sooooo angry i have a 6 year theological degree and I am a practising Catholic that man has sold his soul to the devil. Woe to him at the final judgement. I've just stopped watching a youtube on the recent evidence of authenticity of the shroud; another sloppy protestant effort. God help us.
The One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Churh, with its precedence in Vatican City, Rome, is the only one led by the light of the Holy Spirit, gave us The Bible and its correct interpretation; its interpretation has long been extremely well documented by the Church Fathers and well curated by the Church Doctors and Teachers. There is only one true doctrine of Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior, and it's found only in His only Church. Anything slightly different is from the deciever; it's blasfemy against the creator, Jesus Christ. Those truly deserving of the grace of God have already received the promise in the New Covenant; we can actually see what we are to strive toward when we follow the Saints that follow our loving Jesus. The early Apostolic Church might sound strange to many.
Thank you for making this video my brother! I still don’t understand why our evangelical brethren bring him on their shows? He has been refuted many times!
Bravo, once again.
Thank you
The intro-song 🤭☺️
@bodyworkwithbella it's great isn't it. It's by the hillbilly thomists. They are Dominican Priests
The nuns when my mom were little did tell her that they were only supposed to get their bible and bible teaching from church and the priests. They were wrong, but it was taught at least in certain places. It was part of the reason that my parents became protestant. We're all back in the church now, thank God.
Probably they meant- as opposed to getting your "Bible teaching" from televangelists. I bet in the Billy Graham "crusade" era it was hard to combat the hold he had over the culture. He was so popular and on TV all the time.
@@keeperofthedomus7654 My mom is too old for that - over 90
@Mega...:
The nuns were not wrong.
If your parents became Protestant it's because they listened to non-Catholic interpretations of scripture and doctrine, and that is very sad.
@@roseh9193 The first Billy Graham crusade was in 1947. But it might have been someone before him. "Revivalism" and popular preachers are tale as old as America.
I’ve seen this interview on Shameless Popery and yes thank you for your input. MG was a “devout” Catholic and never read the Bible in thirty five years? Ridiculous and he never offers any real accurate sources.
Maybe I've just been really blessed with good priests, but I have a hard time believing half the things people say about what priests said to them. What priest says "That's not what God means" or "You just don't have enough faith" (heard that more than once). There comes a point where I just don't believe a person's reasons for heresy.
"She didn't even recognize the format of a Scripture reference for John 3:16" - never mind that Christians for 16 centuries never even had them.
‘Gossip Lady ‘LOL
Mother Angelica said: the Protestants get the worst Catholics and the Catholics get the best Protestants.
The algorithm just suggested your channel, love your intro!
Thank you. Other than God, Mother Angelica pretty much converted me to Catholicism
You are right and extremely funny! Like that!!!
Thanks. My wife told me I was too mean on this episode lol. She is probably right lol
I love when you bring it all back to he lies.
He looks like the actor from Northern Exposure (I think)
Thanks for this. Can you post this on Allie’s comments section or write a response so that in a way it will direct Allie’s viewers to this response?
I still like her and she is a sister in Christ although strongly misguided, theologically wrong and not in full communion with Christ’s church yet. I have seen her grow in her stance and understanding on life issues (for example she now recognizes that IVF is wrong I believe). And I pray that she will grow and see the truth of Catholic theology.
I grew up in the circles she is in (although I knew many people like Mike who misrepresented Catholicism I also knew some incredible Christians who although theologically wrong in many
Things greatly loved our Lord). It saddens me
To see the abuse to Catholics by them and we do need to pray for them to be open to learning, to humble themselves to learn and ask the Holy Spirit to show her truth.
Ill try, but it might be taken off
Only with sacrifice in The Holy Mass there is true worship, Matthew 5:24. There is worship in the protestant congregations but it's not true worship; that in itself is a lie against God and The Holy Scripture. The only reason there's so much falsehood against The Church is because all lies are of The Decierver, Nehustan that first decieved Eve. Masonry, well integrated with Nehustan, has been building the Christian Protestant Church for centuries to conquer the One and Only True Church; Masonry loves the structure of The Catholic Church.
Yea i didnt watch that one, i dont understand her reasoning
I want to approach this with respect and honesty, but I absolutely grew up in an era when the Catholic church discouraged reading the bible. I don't know why or how wide-spread that negative sentiment was, but Gendron (although I don't agree with his attitude) is correct. My parents didn't read the bible. Having said that, I personally believe Priests and BIshops discouraged bible reading because there are too many contradictions that would raise questions. Conversly, my grandparents read the bible more than my parents. I think Vat-II had a lot to do with this discouragement. I'm not a Sola Scriptura Catholic, however, during difficult times such as these I believe returning to the Scriptures is the only way to be successful in our discerning the truth.
I agree that the church has lacked adult bible studies in many parishes. I have hosted a catholic Bible study at my home for 3 years now. It's nothing huge but we have about 22 people or so that come. Honestly, it has been so fruitful. I definitely believe that the scriptures have a very special and unique place. I would say that they are materially sufficient for the knowledge of salvation. The church gives form to the matter. I've seen a big increase in Catholics reading scriptures. Dr. Scott hahn had a big part in this. Keep reading the scriptures!
@@catholicocdpodcast I do agree, bible reading has become more popular among Catholics. I did the Bible in a Year with Fr Schmidt in 2023. I liked it. He's not my style of leader, but he's a fair reader. I want to do it again in January 2025, but I'm finding a different platform.
Since catholics beleive that God chose them above all as his church, too bad they don't talk about acts 4:12, revelation 17, or revelation 22:18-19?
As far as acts 4: 12, Catholics say this about Jesus during every mass, " you alone are the holy one, you alone are the Lord, you alone ate the most high Jesus Christ, with the holy Spirit in the glory of God the Father." We believe that Jesus is the only sole mediator between God and man. I have no idea what you are getting at with your verse here
@@catholicocdpodcast why does the catholic religion invoke Mary and dead saints as mediators for Christ and leave him out most of the time, not saying much about acts 4:12, as though God gave as much authority to the catholic religion as he did to Jesus? Talking to the dead by any other name is still necromancy!
@louisvega-oe2sc the catholic church rejects necromancy. I do not have conversations with the dead. I have conversations with God. I will ask for the dead to pray for me , but I understand that God must be the one who allows the saints to know that I ask for their prayers. All of their prayers must go to and through Jesus as the church says that he is the sole unique mediator. If you say we invoke them way more than we do God then I would guess that you have never been to a Catholic mass. The only invocation of the saints at all during the regular Sunday mass is when we say " and I ask blessed Mary ever virgin, all the angels and saints, and you my brothers and sisters to pray for me to the Lord". Out of the 1 hour mass, that is the only invocation that we say every week. We ask all followers of Christ to pray for us TO God.
@@catholicocdpodcast necromancy is necromancy, just like excuses for necromancy is just that, "!EXCUSES!!" Tell that to God? You'll find him in the bible?
@@louisvega-oe2sc I found him. He was on the mount of transfiguration talking to the dead moses.
John Cullen is the actor he reminded me of. Apologies.
Except many homilies don’t exegete scripture, they will preach on something completely different. The church teaches it’s the authority on scripture, and teaches we don’t have the ability to understand scripture without the magisterium. Is a Catholic really able to read it on their own according to the RC own position?
The usccb website has the bible available on line. It also lists the daily bible readings
Yes. I am Catholic and have been reading my Bible on my own for decades. I was never ever told not to read the Bible. Our local Catholic Priest encourages us to read our Bibles at home. 😊
@@JoAnnFuir that’s great to hear.
Mikes videos are pretty awful
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6) Martignoni: I gave you the opportunity to put to bed the rumor that you left the Catholic Church because you had divorced and remarried. Since you chose not to do so, I will tell you that I had a guy actually send me Texas public records that apparently show you divorced your first wife, Janis, in 1982, after 13 years of marriage, and married your current wife, Mary J. Aragon (J. being for Jane) in 1984. On your website, it states that you left the Catholic Church in 1984. Huh. I guess that's just a coincidence, right?
The reason I am asking about this, is not to pry into your personal life, but to simply see if you are a man who truly abides by the Word of God. I am testing the spirits, as it were, as Scripture tells me to do. Jesus states quite plainly that to divorce your wife and marry another is adultery (Matt 19:9). Plus, Scripture says, "For I hate divorce, says the Lord the God of Israel," (Malachi 2:16). It is not an unheard of occurrence to have Catholics leave the Church because their desires of the flesh override their desires of the spirit. But, the Church abides by the words of Jesus and will not condone their divorce and remarriage. So, in anger and bitterness and with much malice, they leave the Church and then, after the fact, they supposedly find justification in the Bible for leaving and for their adulterous desires. Which, would explain a lot of your hatred towards the Church and motivation for attacking the Church as virulently as you do and for lying about what the Church actually teaches as you do.
So, again, I will ask: Are you divorced and remarried...yes or no? If, yes, how do you square that with the words of Jesus in Matt 19?
Ps he didn't answer this question. interview with John Martignoni, Bible Christian Society, Apologetics #456
This guy is still spouting this nonsense? lol
OCD, you're not understanding Trent and grace. According to Trent you are freely given Grace in that though this grace you are able to perform meritorious works worthy of salvation. (due to the free grace)
That source of merit is not the type that actually earns us heaven. Trent is very clear that no one can ever be owed salvation at the end. The point of trent is not just so we get grace to earn heaven. That's not what trent said. Vicarious satisfaction is 100% catholic doctrine and it is in Trent. I've shown that. I read from trent on this episode
📜 Jeremiah 7:2 Stand at the gate of the house of the LORD and proclaim this message there: Hear the word of the LORD, all you of Judah who enter these gates to worship the LORD!
3 Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Reform your ways and your deeds so that I may dwell with you in this place.
4 Do not put your trust in these deceptive words: “The temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD!”
...16 You, now, must not intercede for this people! Do not raise a cry or prayer in their behalf!k Do not press me, for I will not listen to you!
17 Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Judah, in the streets of Jerusalem?
18 The children gather wood, their fathers light the fire, and the women knead dough to make cakes for the Queen of Heaven,*
while libations are poured out to other gods-all to offend me!l
19 Are they really offending me-oracle of the LORD-or rather themselves, to their own disgrace?
📜 1Corinthians 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an example, and they have been written down as a warning to us, upon whom the end of the ages has come.*
12 Therefore, whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall.*
13 No trial has come to you but what is human. God is faithful and will not let you be tried beyond your strength; but with the trial he will also provide a way out, so that you may be able to bear it.
14 Therefore, my beloved, avoid idolatry.
@@Sola-Scriptura444 The “Queen of Heaven” that Jeremiah refers to is not Mary. Therefore, he was not condemning Marian devotion. The fact that Jeremiah was not referring to Mary is obvious, since he was writing around 600 B.C., not the first century A.D. In his day, the title “Queen of Heaven” was used to refer to various pagan deities. There were many such deities, as every pagan pantheon had a major, ruling deity who was depicted as a king in heaven. Correspondingly, various goddesses were regarded as queens in heaven. Scholars are not sure which of these deities Jeremiah was referring to. It may have been a Canaanite goddess such as Ashtoreth (the wife of Ba’al), Asherah (the wife of El), or the warrior goddess Anat. Whichever he meant, it is clear that the condemned devotion was taking place in his own day, for Jeremiah refers to it as “what they are doing in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem” (Jer. 7:17). He also promises that God’s wrath would fall on members of his own generation as a result of this practice (Jer. 44:24-30). The fact that “Queen of Heaven” was used for a pagan deity in Jeremiah’s day does not mean that it can’t also have a legitimate use. Words and phrases gain their meaning and connotations from the way they are used in a particular community, and they are not permanently ruined just because pagans once used them. As noted, the same pagan pantheons that had Queens of Heaven also had Kings of Heaven, but that didn’t stop the biblical authors from referring to the true God as a King (Ps. 29:10, 47:2, 6-7, 103:19; Isa. 6:5; Mal. 1:14; 1 Tim. 1:17; Rev. 15:3, etc.). They even used the exact title “King of Heaven” for him (Dan. 4:37; Tob. 1:18, 13:7). The question thus is not whether “Queen of Heaven” was once used for a pagan deity, but whether it can have a different and appropriate sense. As we
@@Sola-Scriptura444 Daughters of kings are your lovely wives;
a princess arrayed in Ophir’s gold*
comes to stand at your right hand.
III
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Listen, my daughter, and understand;
pay me careful heed.
Forget your people and your father’s house,*
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that the king might desire your beauty.
He is your lord;
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dhonor him, daughter of Tyre.
Then the richest of the people
will seek your favor with gifts.
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All glorious is the king’s daughter as she enters,e
her raiment threaded with gold;
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In embroidered apparel she is led to the king.
The maids of her
another 0 intelligence post
@@Sola-Scriptura444 exodus 25: 18-19 exodus 26:1 numbers 21 8-9, 1 kings 6:23, 27-29. 1 kings 7:25, 1 kings 7:36 nice try pal lol. Catholic christians don’t scream to other gods. Learn your bible sola Scriptura.
Francisco Guzman
📜 Ecclesiastes 1:5The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.
6The wind blows to the southnand turns to the north; round and round it goes, ever returning on its course.
7All streams flow into the sea, yet the sea is never full.
To the place the streams come from, there they return again.
8All things are wearisome, more than one can say.
The eye never has enough of seeing, nor the ear its fill of hearing.
9What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
10Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.
📜 Matthew 7:20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Better get of youtube and go clean the house .... cheers
Lol
When I was a devout Catholic I read from cover to cover the King James Bible and the scales came off my eyes,
I was very excited and bought a case of Bibles to present to our priest and I requested to give these Bible away free to the people. He looked at me and said I can’t do that grab that case of Bibles and walked off with them. “I felt like I was going to be burned at the stake.
I had bought two cases and put the other box with free on it at a church function without the priest knowing about it, some time later I saw the church secretary and she said what a good idea and those Bibles went fast, I told her she could look for another case that the priest hid.
I don't think that the king james bible is terrible but I could understand why your priest would not want that translation being given out. It is not regarded as a great version of the bible since it is missing books and it has some verses that are more of interpretations rather than translations. You should have used a different version. The priest definitely should not have took them from you. I teach 8th grade ccd and we give bibles out to every student and we use them in class
@@catholicocdpodcastThe case of Bibles I presented to him was the Catholic version “ St.Joseph NAB,
I have since read the Bible trail and modern Bibles have changed some doctrine.
I have many versions to prove it.
@@johnp.6043if you wanted to hand out St. Joseph NAB bibles and your priest said no, then he was wrong. Are you catholic still?
@@catholicocdpodcastAfter I read some Catholic Dogmas in the catechism that went against scripture, so I pulled out.
@johnp.6043 I would encourage you to look deeper and see what scripture really says. I'm glad that you have a deep love for scripture . The catholic church could use you and you could use the catholic church.
Why would Mike, who was a Roman Catholic for 35 years, spew lies in the name of Jesus Christ. If anything, he should be someone we should carefully listen to, if a person truly desires God's truth. Those who are of God's truth hear His voice, because His word IS truth.
In the video, the commentator is most definitely not exuding the Spirit of Christ. God's people know how to bring correction to another in the Spirit of love, for it is delineated in His word.
The recurring accusations towards someone else, whom the commentator does not agree with, is deplorable for any Christian. Instead of hateful, accusatory, name-calling (like 'idiot'), and defensive pot shots, so that the Roman Catholic social media crowd can feel better about their religion, should try getting into dialogue with another whom he does not agree with. If the commentator has anything to say afterwards, then he should go social.
I've had many great discussions with protestants that i respect and admire. Mike is just not one of those people. My job here was to show that he lies about what the Catholic church teaches. I proved it by quoting the catholic interpretation of the scriptures from quoting the Catechism of the Catholic church and fron the council of trent. I proved that Mike is lying. I called him a lying idiot and he said I'm going to hell for being Catholic. Which one is worse?
Why do you refer to Trent ? You are no longer a Council of Trent church. You are the new Vatican 2 Church.
New councils build upon older councils. They dont replace older councils. Vatican 2 was not a council meant to answer the questions and accusations of the protestants. The council of trent was
I’m praying for mike, as he goes against the beast system!! There are 1 billion 300 million Catholic followers. I pray also for them , that by the grace and mercy of God , He will open their eyes to His truth. ( Matt 7:13-14 ) “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and MANY there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.”
You must know that Christ is the head of the Catholic Church which HE build only one Chutch with the authority of HIS FATHER, LORD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH through HIS Apostle Simon Peter not even through His 11 Apostles BUT ONLY ONE CHURCH and the popes are the successors right from HIS Apostle Simon Peter only.
And you must know that Jesus Christ is always presence with us in the BLESSED SACRAMENT waiting for all of us sinners to believe to repent and receive HIM with our humble hearts IN THE FORM OF BREAD AND WINE, BECAUSE JESUS IS AN EMMANUEL which means GOD WITH US.
You must know that only CHRIST can build the Church because THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BUILDING, BUT IT IS THE BODY OF CHRIST WHICH WE RECEIVE HIM IN THE FORM OF BREAD AND WINE.
Do you know that JESUS prayed for our Church which He build through His Apostle Simon Peter only?
Luke 22:31-32 - Jesus prayed for our Church "SIMON, SIMON, BEHOLD, SATAN DEMANDED TO HAVE YOU, THAT HE MIGHT SIFT YOU LIKE WHEAT, BUT I HAVE PRAYED FOR YOU, THAT YOUR FAITH MAY NOT FAIL, AND WHEN YOU HAVE TURNED AGAIN STRENGTHEN YOUR BRETHREN".
John 7:18 - Jesus said "he who on his own authority seek his own glory, but he who seeks the glory of HIM who sent Him is true and in Him there is no falsehood".
John 10:25-26 - Jesus said "I told you and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness to Me; BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELONG TO MY SHEEP".
John 21:17 - Jesus said to Simon Peter "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" Peter was grieved because Jesus said to him the third time "do you love Me?" And Peter said to Jesus "LORD, you know everything; you know that I love you" Jesus said to Peter "FEED MY SHEEP".
Mark 4:11-12 - Jesus said to His Apostles "to you has been given the secret of the Kingdom of GOD, but for those outside everything is in parables; so that they may indeed see but not perceive and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn again and be forgiven".
Mark 13:5-6 - Jesus warned us "take heed that no one leads you astray. Many will come in My name, saying I am he and they will lead many astray".
Mark 13:13 - Jesus said "and you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved".
Mark 13-22-23 - Jesus warned us "FALSE CHRISTS AND FALSE PROPHETS WILL ARISE AND SHOW SIGNS AND WONDERS TO LEAD ASTRAY, IF POSSIBLE THE ELECT. BUT TAKE HEED, I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL THINGS BEFOREHAND".
lol. Where did the Bible come from? It wasn't the King James Version in 1604! And why do you people quote proof texts out of context all the time, it's pathetic.
I'm praying for every catholic who has to stand up against the beast system of Protestantism. People who think their man-made churches and their false gospel is the truth. Their lies are being exposed little by little.
You want catholics to believe lies? Okay. No
@@Truthseekingcatholic I am praying for every protestants who always rejects and protest against HIS CHURCH AND HIS WORDS.
CHRIST BUILD ONLY ONE CHURCH WITH THE AUTHORITY OF HIS FATHER, LORD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH THROUGH HIS APOSTLE SIMON PETER ONLY AND THE POPES ARE THE SUCCESSORS RIGHT FROM HIS APOSTLE SIMON PETER.
But now there are thousand of churches build by men himself with their own authority they REJECT AND PROTEST AGAINST HIS CHURCH.
YOU MUST KNOW THAT ONLY CHRIST CAN BUILD HIS CHURCH AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE CALLED CHRISTIANS BECAUSE WE ARE THE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST'S CHURCH.
Mathew 12:30 - Jesus said "he who is not with Me is against Me and he who does not gather with Me scatters".
Luke 9:5 - Jesus said "and wherever they do not receive you, when you leave that town shake off the dust from you feet as a testimony against them".
Luke 9:25 - Jesus said "FOR WHAT DOES IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES OR FORFEITS HIMSELF?".
Mark 13:5-6 - Jesus warned us "take heed that no one leads you astray. Many will come in My name, saying I am he and they will leads many astray".
Mark 13:13 - Jesus said "and you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved".
Mark 13:22-23 - Jesus warned us "FALSE CHRISTS AND FALSE PROPHETS WILL ARISE AND SHOW SIGNS AND WONDERS TO LEAD ASTRAY, IF POSSIBLE, THE ELECT. BUT TAKE HEED, I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL THINGS BEFOREHAND".
Luke 22:31-32 - Jesus prayed for our Church which He build only one church through His Apostle Simon Peter only "SIMON, SIMON, BEHOLD, SATAN DEMANDED TO HAVE YOU, THAT HE MIGHT SIFT YOU LIKE WHEAT, BUT I HAVE PRAYED FOR YOU THAT YOUR FAITH MAY NOT FAIL AND WHEN YOU HAVE TURNED AGAIN STRENGTHEN YOUR BRETHREN".
John 6:51 - Jesus said "I am the living bread which came down from heaven, if any one eats of this bread he will live forever and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world IS MY FLESH".
John 6:64-65 - Jesus said "but there are some of you that do not believe. For Jesus knew from the first who those were that not believe and who it was that betray Him. And He said "this is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless it is granted him by the Father".
John 6:67-68 - Jesus said to His 12 Apostles "do you also wish to go away?". Simon Peter answered Him "LORD TO WHOM SHALL WE GO? YOU HAVE THE WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE".
John 7:18 - Jesus said "he who on his own authority seek his own glory but he who seeks the glory of Him who sent Him is true and in Him there is no falsehood".
John 10:25-26 - Jesus answered "I told you and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness to Me; BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELONG TO MY SHEEP".
John 12:48-49-50 - Jesus said "he who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings has a judge; the word that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day. FOR I HAVE NOT SPOKEN ON MY OWN AUTHORITY; THE FATHER WHO SENT ME HAS HIMSELF GIVEN ME COMMANDMENT WHAT TO SAY AND WHAT TO SPEAK. AND I KNOW THAT HIS COMMANDMENT IS ETERNAL LIFE. WHAT I SAY, THEREFORE, I SAY AS THE FATHER HAS BIDDEN ME"
John 15:1 - Jesus said "I am the vine and My Father is the vine dresser".
John 15:4 - Jesus said "abide in Me and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me".
John 15:6 - Jesus said "if a man does not abide in Me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers, and the branches are gathered thrown into the fire and burned".
John 16:1 - "I HAVE SAID ALL THIS TO YOU TO KEEP YOU FROM FALLING AWAY".
John 21:15 - Jesus said to Simon Peter "Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these?" He said to Jesus "YES LORD, you know that I love you" Jesus said to Peter "FEED MY LAMBS".
John 21:16 - a second time Jesus said to Peter "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" Peter said to Jesus "YES LORD, you know that I love you" Jesus said to Peter "TEND MY SHEEP".
John 21:17 - Jesus said to Peter the third time "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" Peter was grieved because Jesus said to him the third time "do you love Me?" Peter said to Jesus "LORD, you know everything; you know that I love you" Jesus said to Peter "FEED MY SHEEP".
Mark 4:11-12 - Jesus said to His Apostles "to you has been given the secret of the Kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, so that they may indeed see but not perceive and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn again and be forgiven".
It is the Catholic assertion that they are in actuality made righteous. First of all, if someone was really righteous as Jesus is, then he would always have to be actually sinless as Jesus is, and perfect in love, patience, peace, joy, gentleness, goodness, faith,etc. You are all of that, right?
OCD, did you take time to examine a little of the context of what Paul is saying? Or are you just making it fit your agenda?
Can we look at that verse again?
2 Corinthians 5:21
[21]For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Please notice that it doesn't just end with "made (or become) righteous. But ends with"in Him "
That makes a difference. Paul always qualifies it with"in Him " or "in Christ " . This is very important because Christ himself is the righteousness of God. Not us, Not the angels, no one else, and that will be so for ALL eternity. There is no and never will be righteousness outside of Christ.
John 16:8,10
[8]And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
[10]Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
This verse reveals the truth that there is NO righteousness in the world. Righteousness is properly found only "in Christ". This can be demonstrated by Paul's affirmation in Philippians where he spells out that he doesn't have his own righteousness but an alien one...
Philippians 3:9
[9]And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
If we had an actual righteousness then that would not be faith or by faith.
Romans 4:5-6
[5]But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
[6]Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Notice that faith is COUNTED for righteousness.
In v. 6 we see that righteousness is by "imputation".
Strong's Number - G3049
Greek: λογίζομαι
Transliteration: logizomai
Pronunciation: log-id'-zom-ahee
Definition: Middle voice from G3056; to take an inventory that is estimate (literally or figuratively): - conclude (ac-) count (of) + despise esteem impute lay number reason reckon suppose think (o
KJV Usage: think (9x), impute (8x), reckon (6x), count (5x), account (4x), suppose (2x), reason (1x), number (1x), misc (5x).
Occurs: 49
In verses: 40
The word here doesn't mean to"change" but rather to account one as such. But this is no arbitrary thing, but it is because God has placed us "in Christ" and that is our place for eternity. Because of this, we will inherit everything that Jesus inherited. It is why we operate with His authority.
I hope you might be able to understand what I'm saying. It's only what the Bible reveals.
My friend you wrote all of this to disprove a belief that the Catholic church doesn't even believe. When we say that we are made righteous, we don't mean that we now become God or that we are perfect or that we become a source of righteousness. What we are saying in that the righteous love of God is poured out INTO our hearts. Jesus truly lives in us. Therefore, there is righteousness in us because Christ is in us. A lantern that is un lit has no light, but a lantern that has the flame of Christ truly becomes light. Not that the lantern itself is light but that the lantern has the light of Christ in it. Your Philippians verse shows that Paul tried to produce his own light by his own works. It didn't work. He saw that he could be a sharer in the light of Christ ( a sharer in the divine nature) and he entered into christ realizing that all of his previous self righteous works were like filthy rags. I in know way reject the credited righteousness of Christ that is applied to us based on his satisfaction sacrifice on the cross. But we are only in Christ if Christ is in us ( romans 8). I agree with everything you said as long as you don't believe that the righteousness of Christ only remains outside of us ( extra nos). Ps I have no agenda. I have never monetized my channel even though I can. I make 0 dollars off of this.
"It is the Catholic assertion that they are in actuality made righteous"
No it isn't. You misunderstand the term.
You have wasted your time arguing about something that does not exist!
Mike is one of the lowest of the lowest. Well done. Rebuke this liar.