A Review of the Panasonic Lumix GM5 Micro Four Thirds Camera
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- A review and test of the Panasonic Lumix GM5 Micro Four Thirds Compact System Camera.
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Great Review! Miss you David! RIP dear Friend!
I still watch David’s old videos. Getting back into the M43 system after regretting selling a GX80. Sad to know we will never hear his thoughts on the new OM System and GH6
@@paulanderson24 very sad indeed :(
Stick rocking mine in 2024. We miss you David. Hope you're flying high.
2019 and this is still the best pocketable ILC with viewfinder. SOLD.
Come on Panasonic/Olympus, more of this please.
Yes, I've said many times that I expected the GM5 to be a big seller and was amazed to find it wasn't. Why I can't fathom.
@@DavidThorpeMFT Even harder to find one second hand, finally grabbed one off fleabay today. I find my Gh5 too big and hefty for a three week bicycle tour around France /Belgium so I'm hoping the GM5 plus a few lens will be my saviour 🤔
@@mootpointjones8488 Have a great trip - I wonder if the GM5 will become a classic in the future? In which case, not only a good companion but an investment too!
LexTNeville The Lumix GF-3 is a good pocketable ILC “point-and-shoot” with the 12-32 zoom with OIS... also fine with the kit 35-100 w/OIS.
@@DavidThorpeMFT Based on how hard it is to find one of these things used I'd say it already is. I've even seen people selling them for over 500 dollars used! More than a gh4!
David, your reviews are always a pleasure. Thanks for the great knowledge and effort you show in these videos!
Thanks Ville - they are a pleasure to make, too.
I'm American, and I think your voice is fine. By the way, I love your equipment reviews and really appreciate the time you put into them. A few years ago, when I started looking at mirrorless cameras, your reviews helped push me toward MFT and I've been extremely pleased. Thanks.
+Herb Thorn Thanks Herb - I'm glad my reviews have been useful. Whatever the voice, we all speak the same language!
+David Thorpe Sorry but hard to understand what you say in some parts of this good review.
+Jorge Maio I've worked really hard on getting the audio reasonable on my videos but I do have a London accent that I can do nothing about any more than I could if I had French accent. I've not had any complaints about the _clarity_ of the sound recording. I'm glad you liked the parts of the interview you understood, at least!
+David Thorpe Thank you for your kind answer. I understood almost everything but I dare to say with some difficulty. Please forgive me if you find this statement unkind but part of the problem is IMHO recorder related. Do keep up with good videos like this one.
+Jorge Maio Thanks Jorge. Does anyone else have a problem wit understanding my video's? The earlier ones I know were not so good but the newer ones sound fine to me and I've not had any other complaints. I use decent sound gear, a Sony condenser mic and Focusrite audio interface into Audacity. I'm just a guy working unpaid from home so I can't spend thousands on sound gear or afford a studio. Any constructive thoughts, anyone?
+David Thorpe - once again, thank you very much for a very informative and very well organized review! I thought of purchasing the GM-5 a year ago when I was looking for a smaller camera as 2nd camera to my Olympus OM-D E-M1. Opted, however, for the Olympus PEN E-PL6 at only $299. Now tempted again by the GM-5 selling at only $485 here in US with the 12-32mm kit, I ordered it. To come tomorrow. Have my Olympus PEN E-PL6 all boxed and ready to sell.
Your reviews really help me decide about equipment, David. Thank again!
I recently replaced my "pocket" camera by buying a Lumix DMC-GM5 kit (12-32 and 35-100 compact lenses).
It is to be my casual, carry-around camera. At first, I thought I would miss the wonderful 30x zoom lens, well, the great results, photos of this camera has surprised me.
I may not look to use my D7100 as often as I use to.
+Sidney Schultz Yes, fantastic to have such a tiny camera with such good IQ. Nice to have the Nikon too. Might be worth keeping it if you can afford to, you get so little for used digital cameras.
+David Thorpe
Yes, it is a good, great camera as well.
I find this GM5 so good that I may upgrade from crop-frame D7100 body to a full-frame.
Most of the Nikon lenses (10x) are for full-frame.
+Sidney Schultz Yes, that'd make logical sense. Then the two systems you have are _very_ different from one another
Mr Thorpe sir, I think you just cost me a few quid! Watching a gm5 on eBay with the following logic - have an EM5 and weather proof lenses for rainy hikes, never really replaced my beloved GF1/20 1.7 combo. I have a 14mm pancake and the one I’m watching has the 12-32, so it’s smaller than my GF1, has a EVF, basically same controls (which I love), a touch screen and the 16mp sensor that I find plenty good enough in the EM5. All’s I needed was a decent review and yours are the best around (my eyes don’t like test charts!). Thank you once again, and if I ever bump into you (I’ll be holding a red GM5), the beers are on me
Grat to hear from you, Sam! And if I do bump into you, I'll hold you to that beer :-)
Nicely done, David. A pleasure to watch (and listen), as always.
guyo68 Thanks!
Thank you Mr. Thorpe. Great review. I am a big fan of you work. I just stumbled upon your blog as well and it has been added to my newsreader. You are a real asset to the m43 world and you have been a great help in my transition from dslr.
hemuni I very glad you have found my stuff useful and I appreciate your generous words. Thank you.
A Quart in a Pint Pot, indeed. It's small enough to put in a pocket and take it about anywhere. It's also small enough to add to your camera bag and have a lens permanently attached to it. I certainly love mine!
And back up camera or not, it still has the same great IQ as any other MFT camera.
The GM5 is a great camera, and I have it with me all the time. It deserves a GM6 with an improved evf, not much else. That being said, the current evf suffices.
Leo van Lierop I’d say an improved flip screen would make more sense, I love the flip screen on my EM5, save rolling in the dirt and my knees are knackered, so it’s great.
David, I really enjoy your reviews. However, I don't understand your comment at the end of this video "it just ain't right", but overall your review seems positive? Do you mean you don't like the GM5 ? Please clarify.
No, no dislike. A bit of good old English irony! I've used big, expensive top line cameras all my life but a little itsy bitsy camera like this and a couple if itsy bitsy lenses that I can hold in one hand and that can do most of what my big, expensive cameras could? It just ain't right.
David Thorpe Thanks for explaining it. I own the GX7 already (and many others) and I'm not sure if I can justify this purchase as it seems like a GX7 in a smaller body (without image stabilisation). When checking the specs there doesn't seem much difference. Would love to have it though.
itcontractwork Also missing from the GM specs is 50mbps video which may or may not be important. Pound for pound (or whatever currency), the GX7 is much better value than the GM5 and given that it is hardly a big camera the GM5 really only makes sense if you must have the smallest form factor. But we're photographers - give me a camera, I'll find a use for it!
This is a reply to R Hartmann - I cannot reply directly because there is no reply button. Regarding the image quality of the various bodies, there is nothing to choose between any of the newer models, Olympus or Panasonic. A lot of them have the same sensor in fact and a GX8 (if it happens) is unlikely to break any new ground in that respect. If you get on with the GM1, the 35-100 f4-5.6 zoom is a good match. The f2.8 version is a great lens but much, much bigger. The E-M10 sounds a good bet to me at a good price. Take a look at my review of the Olympus 40-150 to go with it, though I'd prefer the Panasonic optically myself. The in lens stabilization of the 35-100 f4 would be wasted but the E-M10 doesn't have Olympus's top line stabilization and you might find the lens's better. The f2.8 would go fine with the Olympus body but when you consider the price and size difference, you have to be sure you really want the extra speed to justify it.
Good stuff, thanks for the review David!
Thank you very much for the answer. There will be none of the new bodies I mentioned in my läßt Post. Waiting a couple of weeks, I will go for the 4-5.6. The size persuaded me. In my case size matters :-) You're doing a really great work thanks again
R. Hartmann There's a reply button this time, I don't know how come! So one again the remark 'size doesn't matter' is proved untrue :-)
Eric Lawson Thanks, Eric.
David Thorpe Hi, I'm just wondering if you slightly regret commenting on the GX8 - It looks like it is going to be something a bit special with a 20M pixel sensor
Very probably the best real world reviews on the net. I hope David will make a tutorial one day on how get the best out of M43, because that is not as straightforward as one my think. For example the way to play with DOF is different than what we old school photographers are use to [with FF].
+jatichsicharta That's a good idea and I've noted it. And thanks for the kind words!
Finally nabbed one on ebay with the 12-32 after owning and selling the GM1 twice! Looking forward to having the viewfinder as an option.
And after having the gm1 with the kit lens, 35-100 and 20mm prime, I think this time I may treat myself to the 15mm prime in the future.
It'll be be nice with 15mm. The GM5s are getting quite rare now, I think.
GREAT review, David!!!
Please take a Panasonic LX100 for a stroll and tell us what you think.
MrVoayer I'm trying to get hold of one at this very moment. Wish me luck.
Nice review. Must tell you that you must try Lumix G6, recently did a wedding in India with G6. 12-35mm, 14-42mm PZ and Leica 25mm...its an amazing photographic tool. For video is very good but the AFC does hunting sometimes, still better than GH4 AFC. Lumix G6 is the most complete camera Panasonic ever made :)
Swarnadip Banerjee Thanks. Yes, the G6 is the only Panasonic I've not tried. Panasonic don't even reply to me so there's no point in asking to try one :-(
Hey David, so I notice you have never done a review on the GX850, or at least not one that I have found! I am loving the size and ease of the GX 850, in fact I’m loving everything about it except for the fact that you can’t truly shoot manually, there’s no full manual mode unless I’m doing something wrong! I’m thinking the GM5 might be everything I love about the GX850 plus the manual mode I wish it had...would that be a true statement! Thanks as always!
It would, I guess, Adam. I haven't covered the GX850 simply because I only use cameras with an EVF. Apart from the GM1 which is exceptional in being so tiny.
What a perfect little travel companion! nice review David
Merry Christmas
aereo I - D E M P Merry Christmas to you too! And thanks!
+Pontus Hölminge I can't reply directly for some reason. I used the one Panasonic sell for the GX7 which doesn't really fit.Panasonic list a one in Japan for the GM5, the part is the DMW-EC2. They seem to be about $50 on eBay!
Finally! I've been waiting for some reviews of this camera for weeks. I thought no one was buying it.
I'm shooting with an EOS M and looking to move to MFT at some point. I thought it was going to be a GM1 at first but then saw the GM5.
I love how small these cameras are... but am starting to think that maybe I should wait until they release the next version which will no doubt have 4K video as well as having more features of the bigger MFT cameras. Maybe the replacement to the GX7?
As someone wanting to make the move to MFT I've found your channel to be super informative. Keep up the good work on reviews! I've subscribed and looking forward to new posts in the New Year. Season's greetings :)
Ron Festejo It's great you find my stuff informative, that's my aim. As I understand it, the processing power required for 4K video generates too much heat for such a tiny camera body. There just isn't room for the heat sink required so it unlikely that anything in the GM line will have 4K. The LX100 must be about the minimum size for 4K.
Incidentally, the heat problem is the reason that Olympus don't have great video and Panasonic don't have Olympus standard IBIS. You need a light sensor assembly for the best IBIS, a heavy sensor heat sink for high bitrate and 4K video.
David Thorpe Yes, I had also heard that about heat and 4K video.
So what, in your opinion, would be the best MFT camera to get that would have the best mix of size (pocketable) and features (4K video)?
I'm thinking the replacement to the GX7 perhaps?
I really like the features in the Panasonic range. So will probably want one. Oh... and I need a touch screen. Touch to focus has been a revelation :)
Ron Festejo At the moment the only mix of pocketeable (just) and 4K is the LX100 but no touch screen and no interchangeable lenses. I don't have any more information than anyone else but I'd have thought the only likelihood would be a possible GX8. But that has the IBIS which may preclude 4K!
It's that 4K which is the stumbling block. Other than that one of the the GMs or the GX7 would be your choice.
Hey David Thorpe ... thought I'd let you know that I've taken the plunge and have sold my Canon EOS-M and moving to MFT. I'm going to get the GM5 with its 12-32mm kit. I'm also getting the Olympus 17mm f1.8 - without a bloody lens hood >:(
I'm willing to let go of 4K videos for the GM5's form factor. It's not like its under-spec'ed, eh... I got my money's worth from the EOS-M because it was with me all the time. I want the same for the GM5.
Really looking forward to getting my hands on it. Anyway... just wanted to say thanks for your advice. Watching your videos have been great for seeing what it's like to go on the MFT journey. I look forward to future videos and hope that you don't convince me to buy too many things ;)
Keep up the good work!
Ron Festejo Thanks Ron! I'm sure you'll like the GM5. If you get the 17mm, there a nice hood with cut-out bits very cheap on eBay or Amazon. Now, about buying stuff, it's no problem because you can always blame it on me :-)
The other part of the deal, and motivation for the deal with the Leica 15mm 1.7 being a side effect was, this! :-D Stoked. 99% sure it's an English one, but will check before paying. Once set, the language cannot be changed so JDM ones are not okay unless you are fluent in Japanese.
That surprises me. I can change the language to Japanese and back on my GM1.
I love my GM1, and am a bit disappointed that I missed getting a GM5. The later cameras are bigger, and lack manual video mode, which reduces their functionality for my uses. I wish Panasonic would bring this line back; a fantasy setup would be a GM5 size body with the GH5S 10mp multi aspect ratio sensor, which would make this a tiny low light monster, and therefore make the slow kit lens much more usable.
I was very surprised when I was told the GMs were not big sellers. I thought they'd go like hot cakes. Which shows how much I know 😬
Merry Christmas David & thanks for another great review !
+D Bradbury Merry Christmas to you too and thank you!
Great review David. Not sure how I have not watched one of your videos before.
Subscribed!
reg171reg Thanks! Plenty more of my videos out there - hope you enjoy them.
I noticed that you have improved the audio quality on your videos, thank you, I really appreciate your effort Mr. Thorpe :) . Love the detailed review, really helped me to understand the camera really well! One question, in your opinion will the 14-140mm lens feel okay with this camera? Or will it be too big for the GM5 to handle?
bajigurwedangronde I'm so pleased that you've noticed the audio quality. I spent a long time mugging up on it, reading and watching TH-cam videos. I had tended to regard it as second string to the video but came to realize that that was wrong. The biggest thing was buying a decent mic and learning how to use it, plus eliminating echo and a bit of post processing. Complex but worth it!
I've just been playing with the 14-140 on the GM5. It works perfectly in every way but overlaps the bottom plate of the camera few mm as do all the lenses not designed for the GMs. To be honest, it doesn't feel right to me and I'd rather use a smaller lens.
Funnily enough I've used the 14-140 on the GM1 a fair bit. That's mainly because I use the GM1 as a sort of 'stealth' camera at gigs I haven't got a pass for. DSLR style cameras are frequently banned, but of course the GM1 doesn't look anything other than the sort of modest compact they don't mind. The 14-140 I tend to put on after I've gained entrance! I've been very pleased with the results - it's a surprisingly good optic for a super-zoom and the range with IS and the relatively large sensor make for good images in poor light. It is bulky on the tiny camera of course, but I've found in an effective combination.
Chris Williams Yes, handy to have a non- pro looking camera.. The 14-140 is one of my most used lenses. It feels a bit awkward on the GM to me but works as well on the GMs as any other MFT camera. And, as you say, the combo enables you to do things you otherwise couldn't. I _prefer_ the GM with smaller lenses but if there's a job to be done, what works is king.
Chris Williams I'm just working on a short review of the 35-100. It's blindingly sharp and the stabilization is excellent too. It's hard to believe that such quality can come from such a small lens. Having said that, the 35-100 f2.8, is a full 2 stops faster at the 100mm which is big difference and it is, as you say, still a compact lens. That extra 40mm of the 14-140 is a big difference, though and I do like removing the need for lens changing. Especially for video.
Took advantage of a big price drop on e-bay and ordered this on on Friday! Woo can't wait. No kit zoom but the 14mm f2.5 I have will essentially live on it. Going on holidays to Edinburgh in September and I'll have this the 14mm, oly 25mm 1.8 (my favourite lens), my 35mm cctv lens (PLEASE review this it costs about £20!) and 45mm stuffed in my jacket pocket. Liberation photography :-)
Liberation photgraphy - good phrase that, very apt. What is the CCTV lens?
It's the fujian 35mm f1.7 c mount lens. It covers the 4/3 sensor. If you search eBay carefully you can find them with the adapter included. I was lucky to get on with a diopter for macro also!
***** I'll take a look. It's easy to forget how versatile the MFT mount is because of its short flange to lens distance. You can make anything sit further away but closer is just about impossible.
Great stuff, all the reviews have been by enthusiasts. Would love to see what a seasoned pro such as yourself makes of it ;-)
It's so sad that Panasonic is not continuing making really small, but capable m43 cameras... I guess they succumbed to the (false) "bigger is better" trend in everything (SUVs, Houses etc.). I'd love to own a GM5, but they're very difficult to find and very expensive second hand... :(
Another cracking review David. I'd thought about upgrading my GM1, but the price puts me off a little bit - plus I've also just picked up a recon GX7 for £330! Looking forward to that arriving to see how that handles and how it fits into my panoply of gear. It really look pretty heavy on features whilst still being fairly modestly sized.
I really have got to get around to selling some of my older gear, but the GM5 looks off the menu for now.
Chris Williams That's a great price for a GX7. The refurbished often means a camera that someone has bought and then sent back because they changed their mind, I understand. I love the GX7, probably the best overall package of Panasonic's cameras.
+Zoe Photography I can't reply to you directly but I'd just say that I hate my voice too so that makes two of us. I think that you are American, so I'd just point out that my accent is very common in London, England - you wouldn't like it here at all!
Haha you are right! I probably wouldn't like UK, but I really did like you video about the gm5 and i recently just bought one in black! Thanks for this review!
+Zoe Photography Great camera - glad you liked the review. I'm going to use George Clooney to do my voice-overs in future :-)
+David Thorpe haha that would be hilarious.
+Zoe Photography He's a nice guy that George but he doesn't hang out with me because he gets jealous when I get all the female attention :-)
+Christoffer Nelson I'm always careful to differentiate between Canadian and USA accents. Canadians really don't like to be confused with their neighbours, it seems. No danger of confusing me with a Frenchman!
7:10 that was the cuttest thing ever
Thank you!
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Rest in Peace David
Thanks for all the great videos. I've been using M43 since 5 months and it is astonishing how many photos I've been taken with my GM1 though I got a "normal" job. Using primes (Pana 15mm/1.7, 25mm/1.4 and Oly 45mm/1.8 there is still a telezoom missing (thinking about the two 35-100mmm Panasonics). All my primes fit in my jacket mounted on the camera. With a telezoom, I think this advantage is lost. So I am thinking about buying a second body just to use it with the bigger lenses. Do you think it is worth waiting for a gx8 (I do not see so much difference between GM1 and GX7 in picture quality and handling). Or maybe an OMD E-M10 EM1 (can get these quite cheap via a friend in Hongkong) the best choice for the moment? I hardly do videos, I am more interested in very good photos of my 2 year old son.
I own the GM1. I miss the EVF, but I do prefer the inegrated flash (that I can bounce), and the 3:2 monitor. The dial works well for me. I was thinking of getting now the GX85, but I am not happy with what I've read about the EVF.
I don't have any problems with the EVF on the GX85, witness the fact that I use the camera as my standard carry about. It's a bit smaller than the Olympus E-M10's but not to any extent that you would notice unless comparing cameras side by side. It is bright and contrasty but there can be a shearing effect due to the way i9t operates. I personally don't see it but some do. An alternative with a bigger finder is the G7 but that lacks the non-shock shutter and stabilization. It's difficult measuring one attribute off against another but with the GX85 it is about the only criticism that could be levelled against it. Could you get your hands on one top try the EVF? I don't think it would put you off but these things are so personal.
+David Thorpe Thank you David. I would also prefer a 4:3 or 3:2 EVF over 16:9.
Great review. I would definitely pay the extra over the GM1 for the EVF. Quite fancy one to complement my Oly E-M10.
androo4519 Good take everywhere body - though the E-M10 is pretty small too.
Excellent video. By the way, the flash that you show in the video, what is the Brand and Model? Thanks.
Thank you very much, David. You review was very helpful.
Alan Watson Forster Good to hear that Alan, thanks.
Thanks for the review, how does the mechanical shutter sound compared to E-M5 ii, or GX85?
It doesn't have a full mechanical shutter but uses an electronic front curtain or fully electronic one. As such, it goes from a faint whisper, a little quieter than the already quiet G80/85 to silent.
Thanks, I really like this review. Lots of useful information and very helpful to me.
Andrew Page Thank you, Andrew. You sum up my intentions in 9 words in your second sentence and it's really good to hear it.
Merry Christmas David!!
And to you, thanks!
David! 2019 calling. It's a bit on the large side compared to my newly aquired GM1 (with 12-32 and 35-100). On the subject of flashes, I am starting to master my Godox TT350o in S1 mode with it. If I know myself, there will be a GM5 in the half distant future. After that, the smallest stabilized Panasonic camera (which is?). Or mayby, the reverse order? Main camera for now is my, also new, GH5.
I've actually been thinking about buying a GM5 to complement my G9 as a small camera body. But maybe I will have to take the step up to the GX85. But interesting I'm not the only one watching the video 2019.
Your GH5 and GM1 make a nice pairing with different uses. The smallest Panasonic with stabilization would be the GX9, I think.
@@DavidThorpeMFT Thanks!
Thanks for all the hard work! Can I ask, is the rx100 comparable to this?
Emmet Dallat Thanks Emmett! The RX100 would be comparable if you don't want interchangeable lenses (many people who buy interchangeable lenses cameras never feel the need for more lenses) and you don't mind some drop in image quality. I'd say that of you are a serious enthusiast, the RX100 isn't comparable. But if what you want is to take pictures of everyday things, family, holiday etc and you find the quality from a mobile phone not good enough, something like the RX100 would be a revelation. If I wasn't as committed to photography I am, something like the RX100 would be what I would use.
The old RX100 is surly compact but the drawback was the lens was not as fast as the new RX100m3 - old RX100 is 28-100mm F1.8-4.9 and basically 4.9 at 35mm - the RX100m3 has a shorter focal range of 24-70mm but brighter at F1.8-2.8 also the RX100m3 has a backlit sensor - improving low light performance -
I would also suggest you look at the Canon G7X as it is the same size and $100 less and has longer focal range of 24-100mm F1.8-2.8 and stops down slower so a bit better in low light at certain focal range -
The key factor with the Canon is that it has Touch LCD and Touch To Focus which the Sony does not have - however Sony as a EVF or viewfinder - but I think most point and shoot users will use the LCD anyway - but of course in very sunny condition a viewfinder is helpful -
Now if you want the better quality like that of the GM5 and a fixed 24-70mm F1.7-2.8 lens then the LX100 is a good option - it has a EVF - but sadly no Touch LCD - So for beginners and point and shoot shooting the RX100m3 and Canon G7X are very practical especially the Canon G7X with the Touch LCD and longer focal range and lower price -
However for someone that wants to grow as a photographer GM5 is a super nice choice I think - powerful yet so tiny and loaded with features
You guys are great, much appreciated!!!!!
@David Thorpe - Great review and very informative. I enjoyed watching it, but was confused by your summary of "It just ain't right." Did I miss something? Not sure what you meant by that.
+rainyn Hi - yes someone else mentioned that. It's English irony and it doesn't translate well into a video voiceover I now realise! What I mean is not right is that such a small camera and such a small lens can take pictures of the same quality and sharpness as much bigger cameras, compared to a GH4 or E0-M1, say.
wow that's that translation? so you liked the camera?
Sorry to be so slow answering - yes, I liked it very much. Essentially it performs like any other recent Micro Four Thirds camera but is much smaller. That's it. I'd have expected more compromises but really the only compromise is that the EVF is small. No way round that. You could put in a bigger EVF but then you'd have to call it a GX7 or something :-)
it's a shame it wasn't a body only option as anyone with a GM1 will have the 12-32 already.... it'll make a good second camera. the 12-32 frustrated me remove lens cap turn on camera extend lens... the little PZ reduces a step.....I was tempted but went with the LX100, with the freeby cap all you have to do is turn it on! a compromise I know as I can't swap lenses but works for me and life is full of compromises.... the lx100 has decentish macro..... as ever a nicely balanced review
Thanks Pete. The dealer I buy from is always happy to split a camera/ lens outfit so it is always worth asking. The LX100 looks like ot could be the only camera many people will need and an ideal backup too. All camera equipment is a compromise one way or another. Finding the right one is the trick and one of the things I most enjoy.
David Thorpe keep meaning to ask. what bags do you use?
great review as always - got the GM1 and really like it - but after hearing your review might upgrade sometime next year once price starts dropping a bit - for now I opted to get the LX100 and really like it - but miss the Touch LCD - just cannot figure out why no Touch LCD on the LX100 - 4k is nice - I might opt to wait for GM6 if I hear a rumor that it will have IBIS - so a toss which camera to take out - the GM1 or the LX100 - as I love operating the GM1 with the Touch LCD and focus but of course LX100 has the 24-70mm F1.7 - 2.8 lens but not as much fun to use
igetsmart There's always something, isn't there? I can't imagine why the LX100 doesn't have a touch screen but I can only think that, having put 4K video on it, they don't want it to have too many attributes in case it takes sales from their other lines. For many, many photographers a 24-70 fast zoom is all they want. If it had a touch AF (which I use habitually), maybe they fear an impact on GM/ GX sales?
Nice and comprehensive review. I find it strange why the 1/50 flash sync speed though because usually people need the flash for high speed shutter mode.. Is this 1/50 sync speed also apply to the off camera flash such as SB900?
+Eddie Alvarez It's to do with the hybrid electronic shutter and, unfortunately applies to any flash, external or not. Glad you liked the review.
I've been raised on BrE so your voice is quite pleasant to listen to.
What do you mean, quite? At this very moment I have dozens of huge companies wanting me to make voiceovers for TV ads for them at thousands of pounds per hour. Honest :-)
Well, in that case...Your voice is like honey! How's that? ;p
That's sweet :-)
David thank you for another informative video. I’ve just finished watching both this video as well as your reviews on the gm1. I’m looking to purchase a micro sized MFT camera for daily travels. Now in 2018 what would you say is your favorite “Micro” sized travel MFT camera?
Thanks Adam. Unfortunately Panasonic has discontinued the Gm1 and 5. Although not really 'micro' like those the GX9 is about the nearest - certainly a good size for travel. There is also the Olympus E-M10 in mark 2 and 3 guises. The Olympus has a better EVF but for me the Panasonic's rangefinder style square body slips in and out of a shoulder bag better and has the bonus f the 20Mp sensor.
David Thorpe thank you for your reply. I’ve looked into the gx9, gx85, gx850 as well. But none offer the extreme compact portability I’m looking for. I’ve located used but very good versions of both the gm1 and a gm5. Would you briefly tell me out of all The aforementioned cameras which you would choose and why? My use would be a Go-everywhere camera to throw in my pocket. Mostly stills and occasionally video of my kids. I have my G7 for everything else. Thanks again!
I have a GM1. It's a bit smaller than the GM5 and I reckoned that if I wanted a camera purely on the basis of its size, the very smallest was the one to get. I use it strapped to my chest for bike videos and for taking places where I might not otherwise have a camera, the gym, for example. It's a great little camera, obviously handicapped in ergonomics by its size as it has to be. I set it up for my usual stills shooting on Custom 1 and FHD video in the Movie mode and then I don't have to use the controls much anyway. Lovely little cameras, the GMs. I thought they'd be big sellers - so don't ask me for any stock market tips 😒
David Thorpe hahaha...I would agree and would have that a pocket camera with interchangeable lenses would have been a hit!! I’ll stick to your advice on photography then! Thank you that’s great information. I’m really quite drawn to the size and styling of the gm1 and gm5 for that matter. I suppose I will see which deal is more pleasing! I’ll inform you of my results! Cheers!
David, love your reviews. When will you get your hands on the new Lumix GX85, I have a G7 and want a pocket camera to take with me. The GM5 sees like a good choice for the budget.
+Anthony Magliocco Thanks Anthony! I have a GX80 (as it is called in Europe, I wonder why?) on order. With the stabilization and tilting monitor and all it sounds like a perfect small camera. The price looks good too.
tip top review - ended up going for the unrivalled gm5 over the gx7
+Victor McAuley Thanks Victor. Great to have so much choice.
David Thorpe Enjoyed the review, as always. Off topic request, (because I'm not sure where else to place it): Any chance you would be able to review the Speedbooster for the m43 system?
Funny you should ask, I have one at this very moment. I'm trying it with a couple of long lenses, a Nikon 300mm and 200mm. I'm hoping to get the review done in a couple of weeks or so.
Fantastic! I look forward to that. I often cite you when telling friends why I shifted to m43. I appreciate the simplicity you bring to your reviews. Keep up the good work!
Hello David. A very nice review and, as a French citizen, I do like your accent very much (and your sum up at the end of the video also). I am a bit late to the party but i wanted to ask you a question: between GX800 and GM5 what would you recommend for everyday use? Thank you.
One of the longest lasting pleasures of my life is France and speaking French. Cameras, of the two I'd be inclined to the GM5. It has the EVF which, though small, is perfectly usable and the camera has a good solid feel. Unfortunately they don't make them any more so you'd have to buy second hand. The GX800 has a plastic body which in my experience doesn't mean it is any less strong but it doesn't feel as nice. On the other hand it has all the facilities of the modern Panasonics like 4k video and a swivelling screen. If you can live without an EVF, the GX800 is a very reasonably priced camera capable of the same quality results as its bigger siblings. On balance, I'd say the GX00 would be better for you.
Thank you for taking the time to give me such a detailed answer. I finally went with a GM5 at a bargain price.Can you give an advice for a second lense to go with the provided 12-32 lense for street photography mainly and with low light conditions also ?
@@olidum Im not David Thorpe, but i have used the GM5 for about 2 years now as a travel and street camera, and my absolute go-to lens is the Pana-Leica 15 mm 1.7. Small, light, super nice build quality (made in Japan), and great image quality. Only downside is no stabilisation, but the f 1.7 somehow compensates for this.
sunship2 thank you
I bought it and like it a lot.
Great review. May you please do a review of the Sony DSC-RX100 Mark III? I am keen to hear what your take on it is. And if its is camera that's recommended for enthusiasts. Thanks!
Enrico Luis Thanks Enrico. I'm afraid I can't help with the Sony. I stick to MFT equipment but I can't get hold of that easily even. Neither Olympus or Panasonic will talk to me.
Have you seen the Joby Micro Hybrid tripod? I think it would suit your micro camera-outfit perfectly.
Anyway great and inspiring review.
attentionaddicts Thanks for the kind words - I'll take a look at that Joby. Never heard of it before, so thanks.
Hi David, love your reviews. Are you still using your GM-5? What do you mean by "it just ain't right" at the end of the review?
I had to sell the GM5 to fund another test camera but I got a very cheap s/h GM1 to replace it. The GM5 s/h is quite expensive still. What I meant by it just ain't right is that such a small camera should give such quality results with such tiny lenses - it's not fair to bigger cameras and lenses!
Hello Again, David. What (brown) leather strap are you using (@ 8:41)? I want to get rid of the factory neckstraps, they are a nuisance. I would like a detachable strap (maybe one for the wrist and one for shoulder or neck).
+Berno Berends That's from www.gordyscamerastraps.com/. He has a nice range of hand made straps. I also use Op/Tech straps which very versatile. You can find them on Amazon.
Hi, David. Nice VDO!! I am considering about having a spare camera for a everyday camera since I already have OMD EM5 and it quite big when mount with 12-40mm f2.8. The option that I have are GM5 and GF7. I saw in the VDO that you do a time lapse VDO, I am not sure that it is a function in GM5 or it is a post process. Looking forward to hear your opinion :)
+Kunut Manathanya Thanks Kunut! The time lapse is a function of the GM5. The choice between GF7 and GM5 is difficult because I miss a swivelling or articulated viewfinder. On balance, though, the GM5 is smaller (tiny in fact) and has a more quality feel than the GF7 and I'd prefer it.
David Thorpe Thanks, David!! I agree with you and since I don't have some one to selfie with me and I am kind of don't like it so I would go for GM5 then. Thanks, again :)
Great in depth review! Love it. I am wondering if there is any way to connect my gm5 to external microphone? I found something like adapter from 3.5 mm jack to micro usb but I am wondering if GM5 is going to recognize it as a microphone. Let me know guys !
+Mikolaj Mikucki Thanks Mikola! No, no way of using an external mic with the GM5 I'm afraid.
Ohhh thats a shame. Thank you for your answer !
Hi David, another great review thanks.
I already have the GX7 and a number of the other excellent lenses you have reviewed. I've been tempted to a GM5 for some time due to the presence of the EVF and its size. It's a shame it's not available body-only as that would suit me. I'm trying to decide whether to go for the kit zoom option or the 15mm. As I already have the 7-14 f4 and the original 20mm 1.7, would you think the 12-32 would be my best option particularly when factoring in the price differential?
jkennan Thanks! I think the 12-32 is the best match for the GM5, to maximize its portability. Some dealers will split kits - I got mine as a body from SRS cameras at Watford. They're very helpful (I'm assuming you are in the UK).
Thanks for a very rapid response David! Yes, in UK but I think I might get the lens anyway in retrospect as its size is probably a good complement to the camera body.David Thorpe
David Thorpe I have the GM5 now. It really is tiny isn't it. I'm reminded of one of those cold war spy cameras! While I was patiently waiting for the battery to charge I was reading your very useful GM5 menu book so thanks for that.
jkennan I hope you find the book useful. I'm working on one for the Olympus E-M5 Mk2 right now and I have to say it's a lot more difficult than the GM's.
I found the GM5 body only for sale on Ebay.
Hy. Is it normal that the picture of the EVF is a little bit more red along the sides and the edges? Especially in low light. I have now the third of these cameras and all of them had this problem.
I haven't noticed it but I wear glasses so probably don't see the edges pf the EVF as well as you do. If you have had it on 3 of them it sounds like it's a attribute of the EVF. Maybe someone else knows more and would care to reply to Faki?
Hi thanks for the review.
a quick question. I already own a gx7 and a gf3 + 3 prime lenses for MFT system. Originally i transitioned from the panasonic fz150, then split into GF3 and pentax system. As i do alot of outdoors, the GF3 became un-sell-able (the amount of scratches all around the body from drops and its exposure to tropical rains, desert sands in the middle east and -20oC environment in scandinavia just was too much to sell this camera) and I went ahead to GX7 while doing major photos with my pentax system. Now that i have sold my pentax, the GX7 is now my main camera. I am thinking of upgrading the GF3 to a small side camera that would use the same set of lenses. Do you think GM1 or GM5 is worth the investment (putting gf3 out of commission finally) or do you think i should wait a little longer?
I don't know if this makes any sense as GX7 is already an all-round camera but my experience during 3 years with pentax have experience numerous times how having a secondary backup (at the time GX7) saved the day.
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Jo Peace Hi Jo - I don't think there will be anything radically new in the way of smaller cameras (not that I have any inside info whatsoever but the GM1 is about as small as MFT could go) so the GM1 and GM5 are likely to be it. The GM5's EVF is pretty small and if it is to be used purely as a back-up occasional camera, I'd probably go for the GM1. It is smaller and the monitor is better. One proviso, if you are like me and shoot with one basic setup the GM1 is fine. What I mean is, I always shoot RAW, 4:3, Aperture Priority, Auto ISO 200-1600, so the only alterations I'd normally make would be to the aperture. If you ring the changes on parameters a lot, the GM1 is an awkward little beast and the GM5 is better. Plus, if you regularly shoot in bright light conditions, the EVF is worth having.
ah ok thanks for the tip...Maybe i guess i should keep money and wait to upgrade the gx7 as a whole.
silly question, but I'm looking for a case protection cover for my lumix GM5 as so beautifully they made for lumix GM1. Can anyone give me suggestions where I can get such a leather case for the GM5
Excellent, thank you.
Any advice on GM5 vs GX7 as a second body to my GH3? I want something small with EVF. GX7 probably has better ergonomics but GM5 is more pocketable/take anywhere...decisions, decisions.
+Brian Andrews Hi Brian. Yes, difficult. It's true the GM5 is pocketable (ish) but only with the 12-32mm lens. If you fit the 12-32mm to the GX7 it's not pocketable except in a coat pocket but it is, nevertheless, very compact. The GM5's EVF is not something you'd want to use often and the lack of tilting monitor a real nuisance.
Unless you really, really must have the small size, the GX7 is a much better buy for general toting around and use in my view.
Hello David,
thanks for sharing your views on the GM5.
Please could you advise what aspect ratio the viewfinder is, and how the real-world size compares with a camera I have - Gh3. The spec. is Gh3 = 0.67x, Gm5 = 0.42x (35mm equ.) I don't understand what these mean.
I know the rear LCD is 16:9 on Gm5.
I really like the experienced, practical and entertaining manner of your videos,
thankyou,
David Barwick, Norfolk, 18-Jan. 2015.
David Barwick Glad you like the videos, David and thanks for the kind words. The GH4 I use for comparison in the video is the same size as the GH3, so you can get a good idea of the size difference from that. The first thing that strikes you is just how small the camera is. The EVF spec simply means that if you look through the EVF with one eye open, the GH3's image will appear 0.67 times that of the open eye, real world view and the GM5's 0.42times, ie less than half size and about 2/3rds the size of the GH3's.
It's hard to work out the aspect ratio of the EVF but seems to be biggest a 4:3 so probably that's it.
David Thorpe Thanks for the prompt reply David, your explanation of the evf size is most helpful, I assumed the body would be @ Half GH3's, so that is good clarification.
I think you are correct about the 4:3 aspect ratio, as I looked @ Camera Labs preview, and Gordon Laing confirms this.
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I noticed the add on grip for GM1 will also fit the GM5.
Hope this helps others to make informed choice about this camera, I'm hovering between it and a GX7 body as 2nd more portable kit.
Regards, David.
David Barwick I like Gordon Laing too. Very detailed and informative.
Enjoyed your review, however, your final thoughts seemingly are lost in translation? "It just ain't right" could mean a "don't buy" recommendation in American speak, as it's just not right? yet I suspect that you intended it to mean somehting else, yes? What exactly do you mean here in this context?
Yes, it's a sort of reverse meaning thing that seems to be peculiar to UK English. I only found that out when I got queries like yours, so I'll keep that in mind in future. What I mean isn't right is that a thoroughly modern and full featured camera can be packed in such a small body, making you think about why other bodies are so (comparatively) big. Glad you liked the review!
The Panasonic Lumix GM5 is a very special camera. The only ordinary digital camera with raising price on eBay, if you are lucky too find one. There is only one for sale today, to $ 764.
When I saw it, I was convinced it would be really popular yet it wasn't and Panasonic topped production. It's a bit like Joni Mitchell says in Big Yellow Taxi, "you don't know what you're got 'til it's gone"
@@DavidThorpeMFT Yes, it is absolutely right and it did not sell as expected. But, now many will have a GM5. Just check eBay. The prices are astronomical and perhaps an answer to old Contax T3 which is now sold for up to £ 2000.
@@protestagain How I wish I'd kept all the stuff I've worked with over the years. At the time it would have felt like a plumber keeping his old tools! Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
@@DavidThorpeMFT I understand you very well. But GM1/GM5 is perfect with Pana/Leica 15/1.7 and 45/2.8 and use the latter in palm for portraits. There ain't other system cameras out there you can use like that, and they goes in your pocket. I'm always searching for the moment, and thats the tool. Better than the old Contax T3.
They were amazing little cameras - it didn';t seem possible they could be so small and so good. I'm still astonished that they didn't sell well. My GM1 is going to be with me for a lot longer, that's for sure.
I don't know if you will see this but am waiting to receive my new gm5 body purchase. I currently own the pana 20mm 1.7 and Oly 45 1.8. I think I want a walking around zoom lens, do you recommend the pana 12-32/32-100 or the 14-140? anything else I should consider?
I'd normally suggest the 14-140 but the GM5 is so compact that it compromises that unique selling point. I'd definitely go for the 12-32mm, tiny and sharp and perfect for the GM5. For walkaround stuff, the wide angle capability is important but the 35-100 is a fantastic little lens and well worth thinking about and buying as well when your partner isn't looking....erm, when you can afford it, I meant :-).
David Thorpe I'll keep an eye out for a good deal on the 12-32 and the 35-100. any others you recommend? I currently own the pan 20 1.7 and Oly 45 1.8. thanks for taking the time to help me btw
I miss my GM5. I wish they'd add in-body stabilization but with the same small size.
A dealer told me the GM5 didn't sell well, to my surprise, so I think a similar model with body stabilization won't be forthcoming. Shame.
David Thorpe I must say l love my stabilised EM5, but never had any problems with (non stabilised) GF1 and 20mm 1.7, fast glass beats stabilisation every time and good technique needed either way. M43 has a few tiny fast lenses that would go well with GM’s, 14 f2.5, 15 f1.7, 17 f1.8 and 20 f1.7 all spring to mind
Do you have any problem with the limited flash sync speed (maximum 1/50sec) ?
+Bounyong Souksakhone I don't but that's because I only use flash indoors. Outdoors, I prefer not to fill in backlight or shadows because I like the raw effect of it. If I was still working professionally I'd have to use fill-in flash out of doors for reproduction purposes and the 1/50th of a second makes it unusable. So yes, it is a limitation of the camera.
Most 35mm film cameras synced at around 1/60th and that was why for certain purposes the Rolleiflex hunfgaround so long. With its Compur shutter, it could sync at any speed up to its max at 1/500th. In that respect, we've gone backwards a bit.
I really love little cameras I love my Q just picked up an l x 7 let's start looking around for this one😝
They are quite hard to come by, I believe. I thought they'd be a big seller but they weren't. Then they were discontinued and lots of people want them. Good fun hunting for one!
@@DavidThorpeMFT yeah I would not mind trying to find an M1 gm1? Correct me if I'm wrong how was the M1 different from the gm1 saw a m1 for a decent price there was one at Adorama a couple years ago it was sold before I got there I just picked up a old d80 just a mess around with the CCD sensor. I'm still looking for another ko1 Pentax but most of them are in Japan. I also want to stress that forget Amazon I have found Pentax Q for 1 or $200 meanwhile people on Amazon I'm still trying to get 650 for them 🤷🕵 also I recently grabbed a Nikon V1 I'm doing some great work with that camera the primes are amazing and you can scoop them up for like a hundred and twenty bucks. The only weakness there's no focus peaking if they're using manual lenses but I basically stick with Zone focusing when I do that
@@DavidThorpeMFT by the way you did some really nice photographs with this camera. Leica Q when you know how they use it they can produce some beautiful stuff it seems. I love the cross processing on The Q there's a lot of options for changing the color as well
@@unbroken1010 The Q is a truly beautiful design and while I don't like the prices and some of the marketing of Leica there's no question they can produce great results.
Excellent review as always! If I can be nitpicking, I think that 10 seconds for the video title is a bit too long, 4-5 seconds should be more than enough. :)
mcol3 Thanks for the kind words. No, not nitpicking, I'll cut the title down to 4 or 5 seconds. It's hard to judge what's best when you are actually making the videos, so input like yours is very useful.
Wonderful review!
+Caleb Courteau Thanks, Caleb!
so now that the gm5 has an evf how does your gx7 fit into the equation?
I sell the GM1 and the GM5 becomes the camera I take out when I don't intend to take pictures (but always end up doing so). In a way, when someone might use their phone camera, I'll use the GM5. The GX7 comes out with me when I'm going to take pictures but don't need a full outfit and the GH4 for everything else. I could probably manage everything with just the GX7 and three lenses but...well, I don't have to.
I would argue that I'm a spoilt brat but it's my money (I tell my wife) and it's a lot cheaper than golf or cars :-)
Quick question if anyone knows. Can the HDMI or USB output live video to connect to a monitor if I have the appropriate cables/adapters? And is the signal clean and with autofocus? Thanks. 2020, and still the best pocketable ILC...:) Run two with me at all times.
No, the USB and HDMI can only be used for playback on the GM5.
Great review! Thanks!
Phil Calvert
Thanks!
David,
Nice review and what appears to be a great addition to the M43 lineage. I was interested in the GM1 but the GM5 appears to have moved us up the ladder. The GX7 works pretty well as a walk around camera; but the size of the GM5 is wonderful. Making a two lens kit with the new 35-100mm zoom is a great idea for a neat vacation kit. Sill, it hard not to take the GH4.... and the "pro" zooms.. I love the size of these cameras so much it still amazes me how much smaller things are getting: j.mp/14buV3a The folks over at camerasize.com really help us visualize.
Thanks, Bob. Basically, we are getting spoilt for choice now. And I love it!
can this camera rival some mid range DSLR like Nikon D5100 in terms of image quality?
It has a smaller sensor but image quality in realowrld photography is very similar. Bigger will always be better but for the actaual pictures that most of us take, Micro Four Thirds is as good as any. I personally prefer either Micro Four Thirds or full frame. APS-C seems a sort of halfway house, lenses are still big but IQ is not as good as FF.
Nice review. Small is beautiful.
Yes, little and good.
great review
optional delusion Thanks!
So 2,5 yrs onwards I bought GM5 as a companion to my Em1 mark II. I think it is a bit of a shame Panasonic is not going to come up with a GM7. Image DFD, 20 MP sensor without AAF and may be a slightly better albeit not larger EVF....But GM5 will acompany me more than EM1.2 for sure.
I was talking to a camera dealer and he told me the GM5 never sold well so that's probably why they never updated it. I was very surprised because I really thought it would be popular,
David Thorpe it was probably the RRP, though the RX100's are all pretty pricey too. There was one at a camera shop here selling for $549 AU, but I ended up getting the GX850/GF9 instead for $100 more. In the end the flippy screen, DFD AF and 4K features clinched it for me, though I wish it had kept the smaller dimensions of the GM1/GM5. Love your reviews btw - it's been a contributor to me dipping my toes into micro 4/3 :)
if using gm5 filter, do we have raw or that only captured in jpg only?
You can't apply filters to RAW files simply because they wouldn't be RAW any more. A RAW file is, in principle, the RAW data straight from the sensor. Any filters are applied to the JPG derived from the RAW file. It's as if the RAW file is a negative in film terms, you shoot the pic and have a negative. You can apply a soft focus filter to a print made from the neg but you can't apply it to the negative.
Oke, thank for the answer. In my sony a6000 if use filter 'monocrome hi contras' the camera only give me jpg file (cannot raw and jpg), but in my canon 1000D i can set raw and jpg with 'picture stly'(filter) than get both( raw unfilter and jpg with filter apply). I never use panasonic m4/5, but i interest buying gm5. Do i get both file in gm5? (Raw un filterd and jpg with filtered applyed) if i use the filter? Sorry if my question before is not clear :P
Yes, you can set the GM5 to shoot both RAW and JPG, in which case you get the normal RAW file plus a JPG with the filter applied. You have a choice of 3 sizes and two qualities for the JPG.
Awesome. Thanks! :D
this vs canon g7x mark II or sony rx100 mark iii? price range in my country g7x mark ii is slighty cheaper, and 300usd diffrence with rx100 mark iv
The GM5 is different to the other two in that they are fixed lens compact cameras. The GM5 has a bigger sensor hence better image quality and a huge range of interchangeable lenses to adapt it to any purpose.
I f you intend to take photography seriously, the GM5 will grow with you. The other two are for more casual use. That's not to say they are not good cameras, at all, just a different market sector.
I will just chime in to say that I got a G7X recently, after using many µ43 cameras for years...Well, I sold it after one week. Autofocus is very poor compared to my GM1, and IQ was just meh.
Can GM5 connect and capture from handphone?
It can. Wi-Fi is built in for the connection and works well with the latest Image App and on the latest phones too.
So image quality is the same between GM1 and GM5? One can pick up a GM1 for very less money these days, and i don't care about a EVF on this type of small camera. Oh yes and how about the difference in video quality, same resolution 1080p?
They have the same sensor so if an EVF isn't important the GM1 is the better buy,
Great review, David! I have a question. Which micro four thirds are better value for money in comparison to GM1 or GM5?
Rob K The GX7, E-M10 and in a way most others. I'm talking about facilities, ergonomics and so on. But, they are all bigger. There's no way you can get everything a GX7 does in a camera this small. So, if you are looking for a tiny camera with excellent performance, these are great value. If the size doesn't matter to you, less so.
+David Thorpe Thank you David for response. I was testing quite a few mirrorless cameras myself as well as MFT. I did try E-M10 but I just couldn't get used to Olympus menu system. Panasonic menu system is just great for me - simple and intuitive. Cameras like G6 or GH2 are having much better handling than E-M10 and just fun to use. I did try GH3 but Im finding it too big for MFT - sony sensor gives great iq and iso performance though. I was trying GF1 and GF3 and at the moment I have a chance to test GX7 which is great - ibis, viewfinder, solid build - but it is almost same size and weight as G6. I know it is still small but rather not pocket camera. I has full package though, its like complete MFT camera. I was thinking about smaller and reasonably priced so I belive right now GM1 could be best option.
Mam te kamerke. Bardzo universalna i latwa w uzyciu ale latwo ulega uszkodzeniom.. Slabe punkty to gniazda wtykowe. Osobiscie nie lubie mini USB, Mimo to polecam jesli cena jest dobra.
Gabi2121 dziekuje za opinie z pierwszej reki. Oczywiscie wezme ja pod uwage kiedy bede zamiezal zakupic GM5.
David Thorpe just one more though. Probably at this point in the hest value for money could be EPL5 of course if I could get over Olympus menu structure.
Does it have a Mic input ?
No, probably not enough room.
wow that pull focus function doesn't even exist on the G6, a camera much more oriented to video..
liquor store or off license?
So long as they sell beer either one is OK with me!
what a drag... i always wanted this camera, but now i know it has only electronic shutter im really disapointed. The Q still my favourite compact system.
They GM5 isn't produced any more so problem solved!
Хочу такой! Наверно аккумулятор быстро съедает. К нему батарейный блок будет? (идеально чтоб под 18650)
gorinp Yes, the battery is small and doesn't last as long as the bigger cameras. You can get cheaper spares on eBaY and Amazon, though they are not as good, usually. Good enough for spares, though.
Да, батарея мало и не так долго, как больших камер. Вы можете получить более дешевые запчасти на eBay и Amazon, хотя они не так хороши, обычно. Достаточно для запасных частей хорошо, однако.
Is there a successor?
No. My dealer told me the GMs didn't sell well.It surprised me but he would know.
David Thorpe the camera store main presenter like this camera!
Yes but you'd have to buy it used. I liked the camera too, though I have GM1 now.
If it was a successful camera, Why they dont continue at the same road with small cameras? I would like a similar small camera with better photo quality.
The camera dealers I use have told me they have sold very few.
Maybe it was the time when many where searching dslrs cameras. Now with many smartphones with 16mp I think many would like something small for camera. I dont know. For everyday use is excellent.
When I first saw the GM1 and then the GM4 I personally thought what a great idea they were and that they'd be very popular. I was very surprised to be told otherwise.
What does he mean by "It just aint right."?
B Duncan It doesn't seem right that something this small should have the abilities and IQ that it does.
+David Thorpe - aahh, so that is what you mean? Now, THAT makes sense. Threw me as I felt your review was quite positive.
+Bill Booz I've learned now that saying something in person and on a video are two different things. In person you'd see the exaggerated shake of the head and a smile. On a video voiceover it's just the words and no visual clues. So I appear to be contradicted what've said throughout the review. I blame my mother. Or Father. Or society. Anyone but me :-)
For one I like the "awful" control wheel of the GM1 better than somewhat sticky control wheel of the GM5. Horses for courses I guess...
Absolutely right, horses for courses. It's amazing how one person can loathe something - and the thing they loathe is the reason another one bought it!
b Tommy Douglas Yes, the wifi and apps - and in a camera the size of a packet of cigarettes.Because we are familiar with it now doesn't make it any the less mazing.
One day I'll find one of these locally for a non-ridiculous price...
The lens alone costs £280 which means you could by a GM1 with the lens for £50 more... Strange
+Dr23rippa On more than one occasion I've bought a camera and lens for the lens and just sold on the body. If you can be bothered to do it, it's a money saver.