Dr Eben Alexander is still glowing with this other side energy. He definitely came back as a forever changed man. These NDE stories are the best way to learn about God and our relationship with him.
He's glowing because he made money from his BS-book who is not "proof of heaven". It's in fact an unverified anecdote + his heart was still beating. These NDE stories teaches nothing about "God" because there is no such thing, just like Harry Potter or the tooth-fairy. They are the results of the brain shutting down and misfiring.
After 4 nde and a 12 min death I have my full health back all my memories back and learned so much. Our memories are also not in our mind but stored within consciousness Love this stuff !
Here’s an invocation from The Upanishads that seems relevant. “May the Lord of Love protect us. May the Lord of Love nourish us. May the Lord of Love strengthen us. Me we realize the Lord of Love. May we live with love for all; May we live in peace with all. Om Shanti Shanti Shanti (Note: Shanti is the Sanskrit word for peace)
As a Christian, I am concerned that this man’s testimony is leading people astray. I don’t believe he is making up his experience, but the Bible warns us to TEST all spirits because even satan can appear as an angel of light (1 John 4:1; 2 Corinthians 11:13-15). The biggest red flag for me was when the Dr. said that at the core of “the light” that he saw was a dark inky blackness. However, the Bible says this: “…that God is light and in Him is NO darkness at all” (1 John 1:5 NKJV) [emphasis mine]. Jesus Christ said this: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. (John 14:6 NKJV) I respectfully urge anyone who is seeking comfort regarding the afterlife, to repent of their sins and obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ as revealed in the Judeo-Christian Bible. Eternity is a terribly long time to be wrong about these things. Peace & blessings toward all. 🙏🏼✝️
For me Christianity did not answer the great questions I had about life. I was a Christian and belonged to a Christian youth group growing up. After high school I went through a period of agnostic/atheism. I eventually started looking at other ideas of spirituality and God. There are much deeper understandings of God than what orthodox Christianity offers. Early Christianity had many different understandings about who Jesus was and what God is. One of the greatest theologians of early Christianity, Origen of Alexandria, taught that all souls were created in the beginning of creation, and some fell from Grace to this physical world to experience life here. He taught that through reincarnation all souls would eventually return to oneness with God. That’s what is taught in different schools of Hinduism. Plato also had similar ideas about the soul. Some early Gnostic Christians had similar ideas. What eventually became orthodox Christianity declared these ideas heretical. That doesn’t mean they were right. It just means they were the ones in power.
A segment from 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within'... My new understandings of what many call 'God -The Holy Spirit' - resulting from some of the extraordinary ongoing after-effects relating to my NDE, when I was struck by lightning during September 1970. Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing. The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlies all spiritual and physical existence. The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists. Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything. NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us.
Why can't every single human on this planet experience this..? The Angelic choir... I know of it. I know I heard it before I was born. I can't remember it but remember remembering it in awe.
Just in case this is a genuine question: He basically said there is no easy way out. Whatever difficult lesson a person is trying to escape from, they will reincarnate until they learn the lesson successfully. There is no escape. (He says something about the lesson being to come to a deep understanding and acceptance of the ultimate love that exists for each of us).
@Jerome_111 Which "god" of the existing 18000+ Gods are you referring to? lol. There is not a shred of evidence in the history of science that there is a "god", "soul", "spirits" and other nonsense. You are an adult human being, not a child. You believe in something which is proven to be BS.
@@Macceee Theres no evidence for god but theres no evidence against god either. And how is it childish not to believe that matter randomly spawned and then exploded? Wich one do i belive in? God. Because your explonation is really really stupid.
@@beetlejuice146That's a common argument among those with religious beliefs based on wishful thinking and not facts. It's more childish to believe that once we die our "energy", despite the absence of a human body and brain, can think, watch our lives despite being totally incapable of being measured with todays advanced technolody. The fact that you can neither prove or disprove the existence of God is called being "unfalsifiable" in science, and is therefore considered pseudoscience. It's not even scientific to investigate the existence of "god" because the claim is so outlandish that it's not possible to even investigate it. They have, however, investigated mediumship for a century and no medium to date has ever in a controlled experiment been able to prove their alleged ability. Ouija boards, angels and demons and other nonsense has also been debunked long ago by science.
@@Macceeescience doesn’t prove anything. Science is always an ongoing process. There’s the hard problem of consciousness and plenty times where conscious experience has happened without brain activity. Science still doesn’t understand consciousness and whether it occurs in the brain or is fundamental to the universe. Quantum physics also throws up alot of counter-intuitive results which may suggest consciousness influences quantum systems. My point? Science has not shown that consciousness originated in the brain. We have guessed this is the case but we still don’t know. H you put comments also seem emotionally driven as well.
I lost my daughter 3 weeks ago and through my grief I have been searching for answers. This podcast has helped me tremendously.
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Please know you're in the thoughts of all those who read this and we are sending you love.
Thank you ❤
You will see each other again. And next time, for much longer than you did here, I promise.
May you be strong for now.
Dr Eben Alexander is still glowing with this other side energy. He definitely came back as a forever changed man. These NDE stories are the best way to learn about God and our relationship with him.
Well said!
He's glowing because he made money from his BS-book who is not "proof of heaven". It's in fact an unverified anecdote + his heart was still beating. These NDE stories teaches nothing about "God" because there is no such thing, just like Harry Potter or the tooth-fairy. They are the results of the brain shutting down and misfiring.
Thank you🙏🏽 listened to this twice! I love hearing about NDE. It confirms we are so much more than this! We are infinite love!
After 4 nde and a 12 min death I have my full health back all my memories back and learned so much. Our memories are also not in our mind but stored within consciousness Love this stuff !
Here’s an invocation from The Upanishads that seems relevant.
“May the Lord of Love protect us.
May the Lord of Love nourish us.
May the Lord of Love strengthen us.
Me we realize the Lord of Love.
May we live with love for all;
May we live in peace with all.
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
(Note: Shanti is the Sanskrit word for peace)
It's really a blessing to have this podcast.🎉🎉🎉
I believe that when people see dead relatives at their deathbed, their Soul is taking over the Body's Senses.
Only Jesus Christ died for us!
This was mind blowing. Confirms all the teachings of the great ones. It's all about love 💘. Thank you Rev Michael 🙏
beautiful conversation, thank you. When I regress my clients back into their past lives and the live between live, they experience similar things.
Excellent episode 🎉
This is a spectacularly informative and inspiring conversation. Thank you both!
I really enjoyed this Rev. Michael! ❤
Fabulous interview, i follow dr bernardo kastrup and i believe that consciousness is fundamental
Simply Listening to Michael talk puts me in alignment 😂🙌🏼💫
Thank you, Sir ❤
We are all knocking on heavens door
As a Christian, I am concerned that this man’s testimony is leading people astray. I don’t believe he is making up his experience, but the Bible warns us to TEST all spirits because even satan can appear as an angel of light (1 John 4:1; 2 Corinthians 11:13-15).
The biggest red flag for me was when the Dr. said that at the core of “the light” that he saw was a dark inky blackness.
However, the Bible says this:
“…that God is light and in Him is NO darkness at all” (1 John 1:5 NKJV) [emphasis mine].
Jesus Christ said this: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
(John 14:6 NKJV)
I respectfully urge anyone who is seeking comfort regarding the afterlife, to repent of their sins and obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ as revealed in the Judeo-Christian Bible.
Eternity is a terribly long time to be wrong about these things. Peace & blessings toward all. 🙏🏼✝️
For me Christianity did not answer the great questions I had about life. I was a Christian and belonged to a Christian youth group growing up. After high school I went through a period of agnostic/atheism. I eventually started looking at other ideas of spirituality and God. There are much deeper understandings of God than what orthodox Christianity offers. Early Christianity had many different understandings about who Jesus was and what God is. One of the greatest theologians of early Christianity, Origen of Alexandria, taught that all souls were created in the beginning of creation, and some fell from Grace to this physical world to experience life here. He taught that through reincarnation all souls would eventually return to oneness with God. That’s what is taught in different schools of Hinduism. Plato also had similar ideas about the soul. Some early Gnostic Christians had similar ideas.
What eventually became orthodox Christianity declared these ideas heretical. That doesn’t mean they were right. It just means they were the ones in power.
Wow. Magnificent.
GOD IS PURE LOVE.
Amazing …
🙏❤️🙏
Thank yiu so much for delivering this powerful message x
A segment from 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within'...
My new understandings of what many call 'God -The Holy Spirit' - resulting from some of the extraordinary ongoing after-effects relating to my NDE, when I was struck by lightning during September 1970.
Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave.
The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist.
For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is.
Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment.
The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing.
The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlies all spiritual and physical existence.
The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists.
Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’.
On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication.
For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything.
NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us.
Too long
This is beautiful.
It's all about love! Super!
I notice I'm super sensitive to voices that speak fast & strongly. I get stressed in my bo
dy. The message makes sense though
Why can't every single human on this planet experience this..? The Angelic choir... I know of it. I know I heard it before I was born. I can't remember it but remember remembering it in awe.
Wonderful
AWESOME!
🙏❤
❤❤❤
I was given the knowledge of the "Transfer of Souls" of animals and people. I have seen heaven. That's where the souls of animals go.
Wow!!❤ Thank you!! I will watch..again & again..
"It's All about Love."... 💞✨️❤
Just drank this down in one gulp
What did he say about suicide? I didn’t understand
Just in case this is a genuine question:
He basically said there is no easy way out. Whatever difficult lesson a person is trying to escape from, they will reincarnate until they learn the lesson successfully. There is no escape. (He says something about the lesson being to come to a deep understanding and acceptance of the ultimate love that exists for each of us).
Of all unverified anecdotes Eben's is probably the worst unverified anecdote. Also his heart was still beating.
Do you know what brain dead is? If your brain is dead it doesent matter if your heart is beating your not scientifically alive
@Jerome_111 Which "god" of the existing 18000+ Gods are you referring to? lol. There is not a shred of evidence in the history of science that there is a "god", "soul", "spirits" and other nonsense. You are an adult human being, not a child. You believe in something which is proven to be BS.
@@Macceee Theres no evidence for god but theres no evidence against god either. And how is it childish not to believe that matter randomly spawned and then exploded? Wich one do i belive in? God. Because your explonation is really really stupid.
@@beetlejuice146That's a common argument among those with religious beliefs based on wishful thinking and not facts.
It's more childish to believe that once we die our "energy", despite the absence of a human body and brain, can think, watch our lives despite being totally incapable of being measured with todays advanced technolody.
The fact that you can neither prove or disprove the existence of God is called being "unfalsifiable" in science, and is therefore considered pseudoscience. It's not even scientific to investigate the existence of "god" because the claim is so outlandish that it's not possible to even investigate it. They have, however, investigated mediumship for a century and no medium to date has ever in a controlled experiment been able to prove their alleged ability. Ouija boards, angels and demons and other nonsense has also been debunked long ago by science.
@@Macceeescience doesn’t prove anything. Science is always an ongoing process. There’s the hard problem of consciousness and plenty times where conscious experience has happened without brain activity. Science still doesn’t understand consciousness and whether it occurs in the brain or is fundamental to the universe. Quantum physics also throws up alot of counter-intuitive results which may suggest consciousness influences quantum systems. My point? Science has not shown that consciousness originated in the brain. We have guessed this is the case but we still don’t know. H you put comments also seem emotionally driven as well.