Thanks for your amazing content. A couple of suggestions. 1) Blind listening? i.e. don't reveal which speaker is which until the end of each section. Or at the end of the video. 2) Play the exact same song loop on each set of speakers, because sometimes the speaker changes when the song changes section, and it's harder to make a comparison. Thanks!
I used to do comparisons like you suggested in point 2 and my current way is much more effective in presenting the differences. As to blind testing, I will consider that. Cheers!
Playing the same loop can work and will be more effective I agree, but blind test is something that you can implement just by using your ears only. I close my eyes sometimes and it does help.
Just brought home a pair of 65 EVOs ... I got them because I am into making beats.. as an older guy who grew up in the UK with all that hip hop.... I listen to beatstars a lot and I can tell you these speakers are in no need of a sub... my audio interface is on 1or less... and that sub bass fills the room.... my apartment is 28 square meters.... you can here the sub more when you move away from your pc chair... I got them for 250€ each New.. which was a steal.. I might just keep them and also get some smaller ones that I can play louder and mix on louder and keep these for mainly checking the mixes... beautiful speakers I can say... I wanted the alpha 65s but he said I can try these out for a couples weeks and return them if I want, so I am giving them a go...
Im wondering whether to get a pair of 50s also... the 65 can shake the floor, where as the 50s give strong low end thump but dont sub shake the room... might be a good idea to have both pairs, or the 50s and check that extra sub on headphones.... I have to listen to beats pretty quietly
So now I have both pairs here.. same price for either pair.. guy at the shop said I could take them home to try without paying which I thought was very nice... I realised although the 65s are amazing and perfect bass extention, they create too much sub issues in my room... the 50s also create this but because they have less low end its more manageable... as much as I love the 65 I think I will return them and keep the 50s and learn to check the sub bass and kicks via headphones and other systems if possible, maybe should buy a pair of pc hifi speakers that have all the usually boostings to check the mixes rather than struggle with the 65s... dam what a choice to make....
I got a question, since i am looking for some studio monitors to start producing music, ive come across tons of sets, and i dont know which ones to buy... Ive watched tons of your videos, and im lokking for something under 300 bucks. So far ive landed on the KRK rokit 5 g4, Adam T5V, or Presonus eris e5, anyone who can help me decide? I also dont have a headset for lows...
Focal have done well to have 2 different size speaker measure and sound almost identical. Can hear small different in Metal Head, Jazz Con Cajon and Return To The Wild. Not sure how apparent it is in real life. My pick is 65EVO but 50EVO is almost as good. Thanks for the hard work.
Very foward highs, great for older guys who already Lost some of the hearing. It seems the speakers are so good that you just need to tone down some frequencies instead of needing more.
Little difference aside from the bass extension and a bit more push in the lower mids in the '65's. I prefer the 65's but could live with the 50's for the $200 price premium for the $65's if money was tight.
The reason is the size of the room. both have different power : ALPHA 50 evo 30w+20w, ALPHA 65 evo 55 w+25 w. My room have only 10 m2 and Alpha 50 sounds necessary more power would be troublesome
Do you think tha if you were to turn the low filter all the way up on the 50s, it would sound similar to the 65? and another question,.. do you know if these speakers are at full volume all the time as there is no way of knowing how high they are turned up... and is that a good thing if they are on full all the time.. wouldnt that need more power.. might be why they have the standby option..I cant find that info anywhere ad to why they dont have a volume pot
they have no volume knobs so it does mean the amp is always on high power. only u can attenuate a little input sensivity. standby mode switch is there.
I have krk5 inches now but I wanted to upgrade my monitoring . On the other hand, the focal 50 evo and the yamaha hs8 are relatively close to each other in the price range . What do you suggest? Focal 50 or yamaha hs8 or even focal 65evo? Thanks
Deciding myself.. there are the new kali audio Lp6 2nd wave too which are slightly cheaper than the focal 50's. I need to know the comparison as the original Lp6 were a lot of speaker for the money apparently!
Be interested in hearing a shoot out with the Yamaha HS8 vs evo 65, and please do not do the hs7 because its the same cone size. we all know the hs7 sucks at bass. and the most popular mid range studio speaker in world is the hs8. Plus the evo 65 claims to hit same frequency response charts as an hs8. lets see if it can do what it says
@@eberhwang23 Hey, thanks for the input! Would you happen to have insights on how they perform with rock and metal tracks in general? I'm also looking at the Kali IN-8 and would probably finalize the purchase decision soon. Unfortunately cannot demo any of them at the moment due to lockdown restrictions in my area
I love my Tannoy Gold 7s and my Focal Alpha Evo 50s. I have those two monitors in "Studio B" and they are completely different. You get more bass out of the Tannoys, but you need sonarworks to make either of them sound perfect in a room. The Tannoy Golds have a little too hot mids I've found where as the Focal Alpha Evos are more smooth. The Golds have a real true British sound where as the Focals have their own Focal sound. They are both amazing. You have to decide for yourself in your room what one you like better. Personally I'm more drawn to the Focals as they are a little smoother.
Couldn’t tell the difference between them at all listening to this on my Focal Alpha Evo 50s. Sure the 65s have a little bit of extra low end. Like an extra 5hz at the push but nothing that would make me want to buy the 65s over the 50s. They sound identical to the source material. Could the Evo 50s be the best studio monitors on the market? 🤔
Hello, the truth is not the only difference, remember that you are listening to an audio recorded and converted to the youtube format, which is 320-bit aac, the quality loss is abysmal, I have 65 evo, and I tried both before buy, I have to say, both are impressive, the 65 evo have a wider stereo image, the bass is deeper, and in general they are somewhat more balanced and linear than the 50 evo, however both monitors are fantastic for the price that each have.
I tried both pairs in my apartment... I had to return the 65s because there was just too much bass rumble in my place.. I wanted to keep them but even on volume 1 the bass shook the room when listening to trap beats... the 50s are great but will need to check sub bass after mixing...
I heard them at the store. In my opion Shape has a cleaner low end while alpha a bit muddier but you should listen them in an acoustic treated room for the most reliable test
I did in a professional mastering studio. Shape's are on another level. Just sligtly better at everything. More details, more dynamics, better stereo field. The music you hear thru them sounds truer and fuller, more balanced. Spent two hours listening monitors from entry level to professional high tech. For me, the Shapes are best bang for the buck. I couldn't find any reason to buy anything more expensive for my hobbyist ears. The price difference of anything remarkably better is not worth if you're not a pro making good money. I'm going with the Aplha series tho (50 evo most likely), as I don't have a well treated room. Might upgrade to Shapes If I manage to move to a studio one day. But the market might change over time. Just saing that the Shapes would be my choice if I would have money and a treated room. Cheers
RU Вы снова как и ранее правильно поставили микрофоны не "ПЕРЕКРЕЩИВАЯ" и я рад снова доверять и слышать абсолютный звук в вашх тестах они единственно верные во все интернете. EN You again, as before, correctly set the microphones not "CROSSING" and I am glad to trust again and hear the absolute sound in your tests, they are the only correct ones on the entire Internet.
The EVOs are promoted as nearfield monitors. Do you think the EVO 50s would be a good choice to solve the room dimension issue in my studio (depth 1.92 m, width 3.5 m and height 2.05 m)?
@@DSAUDIOreview With midfield monitor, do you mean if I'd use the 50 EVOs as a stereo pair as the only monitors in my system? Could you explain DAC with remote - what's the purpose of that? Do you have any recommendations?
Thanks for the video. I have question regarding input priority between XLR,TRS and RCA.Because info from owners manual not clear. Quote from Focal owners manual. You can connect up to three sources to each loudspeaker via the three inputs available. However, the TRS input takes priority over the XLR input. Warning You can connect up to three sources to each loudspeaker via the three inputs available. The three inputs (XLR, RCA and TRS) are activated simultaneously. To get the maximum benefit out of this feature, we recommend that you power on just one of the three sources to avoid any unwanted sound interference. Unquote. Can you pls clarify how the TRS input take priority over XLR? is it by inserting TRS cable physically or when the input signal present on TRS jack ? I know this is extra job for you.If not possible to reply thats ok . I have plan to use multiple monitors for home theater set up. Thanks in advance
I am not sure what they mean by priority of TRS (probably if you send signal to TRS and XLR at once than you will hear only the signal from TRS), but it is clear that you can connect three sources to three inputs at once, just play one source at the time and you will be good.
I don't know how you record your sound tests but - and I own very good PC speakers - and these monitors sound horrible! voices seem to come out of a metal pipe... Just can't believe people will pay at least 500.00 $ for that crap! Total thumbs down!
Happy to see the focal Evo here, I'm literally waiting for the normal Alpha 65 Vs 65 Evo to make my decision on which one I'll buy. 🦾🦾🦾 Excellent stuff as usual.
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Thanks for your amazing content. A couple of suggestions. 1) Blind listening? i.e. don't reveal which speaker is which until the end of each section. Or at the end of the video. 2) Play the exact same song loop on each set of speakers, because sometimes the speaker changes when the song changes section, and it's harder to make a comparison. Thanks!
I used to do comparisons like you suggested in point 2 and my current way is much more effective in presenting the differences. As to blind testing, I will consider that. Cheers!
Playing the same loop can work and will be more effective I agree, but blind test is something that you can implement just by using your ears only. I close my eyes sometimes and it does help.
Just brought home a pair of 65 EVOs ... I got them because I am into making beats.. as an older guy who grew up in the UK with all that hip hop.... I listen to beatstars a lot and I can tell you these speakers are in no need of a sub... my audio interface is on 1or less... and that sub bass fills the room.... my apartment is 28 square meters.... you can here the sub more when you move away from your pc chair... I got them for 250€ each New.. which was a steal.. I might just keep them and also get some smaller ones that I can play louder and mix on louder and keep these for mainly checking the mixes... beautiful speakers I can say... I wanted the alpha 65s but he said I can try these out for a couples weeks and return them if I want, so I am giving them a go...
Im wondering whether to get a pair of 50s also... the 65 can shake the floor, where as the 50s give strong low end thump but dont sub shake the room... might be a good idea to have both pairs, or the 50s and check that extra sub on headphones.... I have to listen to beats pretty quietly
So now I have both pairs here.. same price for either pair.. guy at the shop said I could take them home to try without paying which I thought was very nice... I realised although the 65s are amazing and perfect bass extention, they create too much sub issues in my room... the 50s also create this but because they have less low end its more manageable... as much as I love the 65 I think I will return them and keep the 50s and learn to check the sub bass and kicks via headphones and other systems if possible, maybe should buy a pair of pc hifi speakers that have all the usually boostings to check the mixes rather than struggle with the 65s... dam what a choice to make....
Awesome, will you make a alpha 50 vs alpha 50 evo?
hello! merci beaucoup 👍
Does the magnetic shielding help with these speakers.
how accurate are the mixes out of the 50 evo
please tell me which one is more suitable for a room of 3x4 meters?
Totally the smaller one.
I got a question, since i am looking for some studio monitors to start producing music, ive come across tons of sets, and i dont know which ones to buy...
Ive watched tons of your videos, and im lokking for something under 300 bucks.
So far ive landed on the KRK rokit 5 g4, Adam T5V, or Presonus eris e5, anyone who can help me decide?
I also dont have a headset for lows...
From your suggestions I'd say your best bet would probably be the Adam t5v for the quality and frequency response. 👍🏿
Focal have done well to have 2 different size speaker measure and sound almost identical. Can hear small different in Metal Head, Jazz Con Cajon and Return To The Wild. Not sure how apparent it is in real life. My pick is 65EVO but 50EVO is almost as good. Thanks for the hard work.
Very foward highs, great for older guys who already Lost some of the hearing.
It seems the speakers are so good that you just need to tone down some frequencies instead of needing more.
Little difference aside from the bass extension and a bit more push in the lower mids in the '65's. I prefer the 65's but could live with the 50's for the $200 price premium for the $65's if money was tight.
65 perform better in mid and low
id love to watch the Focal Alpha 50 EVO vs krk 5 g4...very curious...
Already posted. They're the latest video in this channel
The 6.5 sound much fuller: the 50, a little constrained and with some mid range honk .
Focal Alpha EVO vs Presonus Eris XT please
I dont see a reason to get the evo 50's you're already invested that much just go to 65's and get better mids.
The reason is the size of the room. both have different power : ALPHA 50 evo 30w+20w, ALPHA 65 evo 55 w+25 w. My room have only 10 m2 and Alpha 50
sounds necessary more power would be troublesome
DOES ANYONE ADDRESS THE ULTRA CUTE SOUND THE EVOs MAKE WHEN YOU TURN THEM OFF??!!!
Focal Alpha 65 EVO vs YAMAHA HS8 !!!
evo 65 wins
How do you compare the noise between 50 EVO, ADAM T5V and PreSonus E5 XT? Thanks
EVO is the quietest of the three
Make focal 50 evo vs krk rokit 5 g4 pls!!
Will do
Do you think tha if you were to turn the low filter all the way up on the 50s, it would sound similar to the 65? and another question,.. do you know if these speakers are at full volume all the time as there is no way of knowing how high they are turned up... and is that a good thing if they are on full all the time.. wouldnt that need more power.. might be why they have the standby option..I cant find that info anywhere ad to why they dont have a volume pot
they have no volume knobs so it does mean the amp is always on high power. only u can attenuate a little input sensivity. standby mode switch is there.
YeS ! Focal Alpha 65 Evo .
Focal Alpha 65 EVO
I have krk5 inches now but I wanted to upgrade my monitoring
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On the other hand, the focal 50 evo and the yamaha hs8 are relatively close to each other in the price range
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What do you suggest? Focal 50 or yamaha hs8 or even focal 65evo?
Thanks
65 Want Want Want
For a 30m² almost untreated room should i get the 50's or the 65's?
Deciding myself.. there are the new kali audio Lp6 2nd wave too which are slightly cheaper than the focal 50's. I need to know the comparison as the original Lp6 were a lot of speaker for the money apparently!
Hi ! Can you please check with your Eye on which brand is a Chinese rebranding of Alibaba speaker called n audio M5?
Can you compare altec Lansing fx3022 with creative pabble v3... thank you
Can help make a comparison for Edifier M601db?
Be interested in hearing a shoot out with the Yamaha HS8 vs evo 65, and please do not do the hs7 because its the same cone size. we all know the hs7 sucks at bass. and the most popular mid range studio speaker in world is the hs8. Plus the evo 65 claims to hit same frequency response charts as an hs8. lets see if it can do what it says
How have you found the hs8 Vs alpha 65 evo comparison video that's been recently uploaded?
@@Astro-X-Ent no, I haven't looked in a while and didn't get it recommended. I will look for it now.
Gracias
A review on the Avantone Gaus 7. I heard good things about them but not a lot of reviews on YT or comparisons with other monitors.
I see the graph of an EVE Audio SC205 much more balanced and more powerful. Can you compare it with that model of EVE AUDIO?
65 made the guitar sound weird and took out alot of power from the drums. 50 sounds better to me.
i tried both at the same time at the store and i agree that the 50 sounds a tat better, more crisp somehow, a tiny bit clearer.
JBL nano 8inch vs Adam audio compare bro
Focal Alpha 50 evo vs Eve sc205 please 🙏🏻🙏🏻 saludos desde 🇩🇴🔥
First time I'm the FIRST to comment on any of your vids over the years haha. How do you like the 65 EVO vs. Tannoy Gold 8?
Well done ;) I MUCH prefere 65 EVO over Gold 8. 65 EVO is more linear, detailed and natural sounding
@@DSAUDIOreview here we go again with adding something new to cart. Classified under "happy purchases"
Have had the 65EVOs for a few months now and have been enjoying them so much!
@@eberhwang23 Hey, thanks for the input! Would you happen to have insights on how they perform with rock and metal tracks in general? I'm also looking at the Kali IN-8 and would probably finalize the purchase decision soon. Unfortunately cannot demo any of them at the moment due to lockdown restrictions in my area
I love my Tannoy Gold 7s and my Focal Alpha Evo 50s. I have those two monitors in "Studio B" and they are completely different. You get more bass out of the Tannoys, but you need sonarworks to make either of them sound perfect in a room. The Tannoy Golds have a little too hot mids I've found where as the Focal Alpha Evos are more smooth. The Golds have a real true British sound where as the Focals have their own Focal sound. They are both amazing. You have to decide for yourself in your room what one you like better. Personally I'm more drawn to the Focals as they are a little smoother.
review Focal Shape 65 vs Focal Alpha 80 please сделайте обзор Focal Shape 65 против Focal Alpha 80 пожалуйста
Couldn’t tell the difference between them at all listening to this on my Focal Alpha Evo 50s. Sure the 65s have a little bit of extra low end. Like an extra 5hz at the push but nothing that would make me want to buy the 65s over the 50s. They sound identical to the source material. Could the Evo 50s be the best studio monitors on the market? 🤔
Hello, the truth is not the only difference, remember that you are listening to an audio recorded and converted to the youtube format, which is 320-bit aac, the quality loss is abysmal, I have 65 evo, and I tried both before buy, I have to say, both are impressive, the 65 evo have a wider stereo image, the bass is deeper, and in general they are somewhat more balanced and linear than the 50 evo, however both monitors are fantastic for the price that each have.
I listen on alpha 65, it has big differense in sound
65 seem a bit fuller sounding
@@baisvrn I got the 65 too. How different Sound the EVO?
I tried both pairs in my apartment... I had to return the 65s because there was just too much bass rumble in my place.. I wanted to keep them but even on volume 1 the bass shook the room when listening to trap beats... the 50s are great but will need to check sub bass after mixing...
Anybody heard the evo vs the shape: theoretically the shape would have clearer tighter bass?
ive been searching for this comparison too
I heard them at the store. In my opion Shape has a cleaner low end while alpha a bit muddier but you should listen them in an acoustic treated room for the most reliable test
I did in a professional mastering studio. Shape's are on another level. Just sligtly better at everything. More details, more dynamics, better stereo field. The music you hear thru them sounds truer and fuller, more balanced. Spent two hours listening monitors from entry level to professional high tech. For me, the Shapes are best bang for the buck. I couldn't find any reason to buy anything more expensive for my hobbyist ears. The price difference of anything remarkably better is not worth if you're not a pro making good money. I'm going with the Aplha series tho (50 evo most likely), as I don't have a well treated room. Might upgrade to Shapes If I manage to move to a studio one day. But the market might change over time. Just saing that the Shapes would be my choice if I would have money and a treated room. Cheers
Focal evo 65 or adam t8v ?
Same here, waiting for this comparison as the t8v’s are not on display in stores, thx!
Bro like WTF put some dubstep music on test.
I laughed when I saw the thumbnail.
please make a review on Vault C6
end oh the day people listen on iphone headphones :)
Kef ls50 w2 !!!! Review
Love this vid!!
The 65 seem to be the sweet spot again.
65 evo is really what I need :)
Ale te Focale robią szerokie :)
Tôi nên mua loa nào với 280$ ?
Kali LP 6 or presonus e7xt
I thought you would like to include verbal comments can't find any.
Next video will be my summary of last two videos and thoughts on EVO lineup
@@DSAUDIOreview Can't wait! Testing a pair of EVO 65 on Saturday
what dimensions is your room?
20m2
As times change, I think songs change. I'd like to ask you to compare it to the latest song.
You have mistaken my channel with a music channel
RU Вы снова как и ранее правильно поставили микрофоны не "ПЕРЕКРЕЩИВАЯ" и я рад снова доверять и слышать абсолютный звук в вашх тестах они единственно верные во все интернете.
EN You again, as before, correctly set the microphones not "CROSSING" and I am glad to trust again and hear the absolute sound in your tests, they are the only correct ones on the entire Internet.
The EVOs are promoted as nearfield monitors. Do you think the EVO 50s would be a good choice to solve the room dimension issue in my studio (depth 1.92 m, width 3.5 m and height 2.05 m)?
I would not hesitate to use monitors like 50 EVO as a monitor in a room like that
@@DSAUDIOreview With midfield monitor, do you mean if I'd use the 50 EVOs as a stereo pair as the only monitors in my system?
Could you explain DAC with remote - what's the purpose of that? Do you have any recommendations?
I think I misunderstood you. How do you want to use them? For music production on the desk or as a multimedia speakers from further away?
@@DSAUDIOreview I want to use them for music production - placed on stands aprox. 80 cm from ears
@@okunoter4416 than Evo is good option for you. Also forget about the DAC, just use an audio interface
Thanks for the video.
I have question regarding input priority between XLR,TRS and RCA.Because info from owners manual not clear.
Quote from Focal owners manual.
You can connect up to three sources to each loudspeaker via the three inputs available. However, the TRS input takes priority over the XLR input.
Warning
You can connect up to three sources to each loudspeaker via the three inputs available. The three inputs
(XLR, RCA and TRS) are activated simultaneously. To get the maximum benefit out of this feature, we
recommend that you power on just one of the three sources to avoid any unwanted sound interference.
Unquote.
Can you pls clarify how the TRS input take priority over XLR? is it by inserting TRS cable physically or when the input signal present on TRS jack ?
I know this is extra job for you.If not possible to reply thats ok .
I have plan to use multiple monitors for home theater set up.
Thanks in advance
I am not sure what they mean by priority of TRS (probably if you send signal to TRS and XLR at once than you will hear only the signal from TRS), but it is clear that you can connect three sources to three inputs at once, just play one source at the time and you will be good.
I don't know how you record your sound tests but - and I own very good PC speakers - and these monitors sound horrible! voices seem to come out of a metal pipe... Just can't believe people will pay at least 500.00 $ for that crap! Total thumbs down!
its need good analog converter then you can see big diff with room acoustic
Happy to see the focal Evo here, I'm literally waiting for the normal Alpha 65 Vs 65 Evo to make my decision on which one I'll buy. 🦾🦾🦾 Excellent stuff as usual.
Check out my previous video ;)
buy it it is worth
@@pascalmerschaudio I still prefer the old alpha to the new alpha evo.
@@Astro-X-Ent what is better on the old model compared to the evo?
@@JaredSchumaier old alpha is definitely more neutral sounding and I personally prefer the design too. I won't be won over with the new evo range. 🤣✌🏿