Comparison wooden violin vs carbon fiber violin

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  • Comparison of carbon fiber violin and wooden german master violin made in 1950. Which one is more brilliant? Which one has the warmer sound? Check and vote!
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  • @irishmusicpainter
    @irishmusicpainter 8 ปีที่แล้ว +534

    impossible to compare the two instruments when they are being played at the same time.

    • @TheTopMostDog
      @TheTopMostDog 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +gearoid edmonds
      I am so confused.

    • @ArcaneDemon1
      @ArcaneDemon1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      +gearoid edmonds The carbon fiber sounds duller than the wood, especially on the lower end where the sound isn't as warm/rich.

    • @ArcaneDemon1
      @ArcaneDemon1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      +gearoid edmonds He is also playing two part to a duet, so you can hear each one as they play the melody differently.

    • @charvelgtrs
      @charvelgtrs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If its impossible to compare then the difference isn't that great.

    • @sandygrungerson1177
      @sandygrungerson1177 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not really.

  • @CrimsonFckr
    @CrimsonFckr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    the wooden has a bit of an airy and brighter sound while the CF is surprisingly robust and warm. This made me rethink the quality of CF instruments

    • @lopaka79
      @lopaka79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is more so what I heard. Though I'd point out both are using different strings as well.

    • @mr.bigcommonsense3089
      @mr.bigcommonsense3089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exact same notes here

  • @FutureXXD
    @FutureXXD 10 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    How is this a comparison? This is a duet haha

    • @catalinciobanu9004
      @catalinciobanu9004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the comparation is that the play his Carbon violin lauter then the other violin

  • @sylvaindescoteaux6959
    @sylvaindescoteaux6959 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The rich notes , high frequence and the purity of the wooden violin is unequaled ..nothing can compare to the wooden violin !

    • @Discrimination_is_not_a_right
      @Discrimination_is_not_a_right ปีที่แล้ว +2

      According to you.

    • @vitordelima
      @vitordelima 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can fine tune the carbon fiber composite in order to improve this. It's a fabric embedded into a resin and both can be changed to become more or less dense, flexible, ...

  • @bonenfant96
    @bonenfant96 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I really don't understand how can you call this a comparison when 2 violins are played at the same time ?

    • @stofnun6091
      @stofnun6091 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Nightshae007 Channel Spamming TH-cam with your comments isn't gonna get you subscribers. The act is pretty immature as it is, so why would I bother?

    • @bonenfant96
      @bonenfant96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mmmm..... Since when having an opinion is immature ?

  • @oliviamontemayer7089
    @oliviamontemayer7089 8 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    To me personally I feel that the carbon fiber violin sounds more "scratchy" almost shrill in the high notes. I think that the wooden violin sounds more deep, more rich than the carbon fiber violin. When played properly the wooden violin is almost never scratchy or shrill. This man is obviously a skilled and experienced violinist, and I can't help but hear a scratchiness in the carbon fiber violin, that is not present in the wooden violin. If given the choice I would pick the wooden violin as my favorite.

    • @najitaha650
      @najitaha650 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I totally agree with you. I still prefer the wooden violin sounds. The carbon fibre is too shrill and too bright sound. A bit painful to my ears. The wooden one is better coz of the warm, deep and richer sound. I can say the wooden one is perfect to classical piece music.

    • @HHLucifer666
      @HHLucifer666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Over Enthusiastic Trekkie you must also keep in mind that the wooden violin is HANDCRAFTED PROFESSIONALLY. Every single time I go to a video like this, I see comments like yours where they don't take into account the way the instruments were made. An assembly line made violin is going to sound VASTLY DIFFERENT than a hand crafted violin. No one seems to realize that.

    • @franciscussteiner5661
      @franciscussteiner5661 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What a silly comment (+BabyBear45) - the Mezzo Forte is "hand crafted" as well. Check out their video about the production, filmed by German TV (public = state TV):
      th-cam.com/video/BBeOAa1sIKw/w-d-xo.html That is the problem of carbon fiber in general: It does NOT lend itself to mass production easily. Carbon fiber parts are _harder_ to make than e.g. metal parts! MUCH harder! A lot more steps and less automation, the entire production process is a lot more complex and consists of a lot more steps. From the point of view of the company making stuff, you don't choose to manufacture something using carbon fiber components for the price, quite the opposite! Not to mention that each carbon fiber part consists of many layers at varying angles and has to be designed specifically for its purpose, and it takes lots of trial and error even though there is software that can help. It's such a complex process, from design to actually making it, making anything with carbon fiber is quite an engineering challenge!

    • @GwinnyMusic
      @GwinnyMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad someone mentioned this! Carbon fibre violins aren't supposed to be compared next to a hand-crafted violin from 1950 - they're supposed to be compared to, as you said, assembly line made violins!

    • @tankermottind
      @tankermottind 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The "scratchiness" I hear comes from the wooden violin, and it's an important and necessary part of the instrument's character. There's a slight raspy edge to the wood violin that's rounded off on the carbon fiber one. The carbon fiber one sounds glossy and excessively smooth, almost synth-like compared to the traditional instrument. It absolutely beats the hell out of plywood student instruments, though, which is its real target market.
      I think if the carbon fiber violin were to become a concert instrument in its own right, it would have to change its shape and other characteristics to accent the qualities of carbon fiber and get the best timbre possible--and such an instrument would no longer be a violin but something else.

  • @noelic6744
    @noelic6744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The carbon fiber one has a bit of a metallic tone to it which I don't like. The wooden one has a more resonant and deep tone which sounds pleasing.
    ...though I would've preferred hearing them separately for better understanding.

  • @mezzofortegermany
    @mezzofortegermany  10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    here is the link to the music sheet:
    petrucci.mus.auth.gr/imglnks/usimg/8/80/IMSLP42491-PMLP54675-Mazas_-_Duo_No1_Op38_for_2_violins.pdf

  • @StingrayForLife
    @StingrayForLife 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It might be a good idea to shift the two violins relative positions in the mix and make this stereo, so that one can compare the two more easily. It would make sense in relation to the video, if carbon were moved a tad to the left and wood to the right.

  • @randycallahan4184
    @randycallahan4184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i bought this carbon violin over a year ago and my issue im now having is finding a wooden one that can play anywhere NEAR as well as the mezzo does. sure the sound is different, but the response and dynamics are off the charts. i reach for my cheap $1500-2000 wood ones every once in a while to get that sound, but end up putting them down after 15 to 30 min because i cant stand the lack of response and dynamics. maybe one day i can drop 20k on a wood violin, but at this point im wondering if any wood ones can play as well as the mezzo. my wooden fiddles feel broken after playing the carbon for so long. and its super easy to tell the two fiddles apart in this vid. i think some people have the two mix up from reading the comments?? i will say it is harder to play up past 5th pos on the estring as the response makes it feel very fragile. thats its only downside in my opinion. keep it up mezzo! and thanks for getting me a violin i can afford that is super fun to play. id kill for a wood one that worked anywhere near as well for a similar price! aint happening though

  • @jmdooo150
    @jmdooo150 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The carbon fiber violin sounds amazing :) but I like the wood violin more

  • @Jacob-ry3lu
    @Jacob-ry3lu 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The wooden one is way more resonant and has a metallic resonance quality to it while the carbon fiber I kind of felt was a bit softer and lacked color and brightness

  • @PhuVet
    @PhuVet 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The old violin has a fatter sound, more rich and the lower notes show much more depth. The CF violin plays the shrilly highs very well and would complement the wooden Violin in a varied piece such as the one you have chosen. The problem is a violinist usually sticks with an instrument for most of their life. As a conductor its hard to have an artist change because you notice the difference in the violins but the artist may only concentrate on the fact that they hate the unfamiliar violin. it would take a very mature and well trained ear to tell the difference while playing. thank you for the performance.

    • @julial9770
      @julial9770 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Phu Vet My string orchestra teacher has a nice wooden violin, and it sound amazing. Since they are inexpensive, we all have carbon and I've noticed that our notes do have a higher pitch than hers.

    • @TheDrtye
      @TheDrtye 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you say for lack of better words that the carbon violin was a more tinny sound where the wood one a as more mellow? I studied violin at a young age and my poor ears are not what they once were

    • @duncanandrew3307
      @duncanandrew3307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@julial9770 You get pitch from where you place your fingers. What you are trying to describe is timbre, or tone quality.

  • @Ala13ManOWar
    @Ala13ManOWar 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Well, not bad and probably better than cheap violins, but still even in a "low quality" recording wooden violin clearly has better harmonics. Also carbon fiber seems to lack a bit of sound deep compared to wooden. So that's enough to know. Thanks for the video!!

    • @Liist
      @Liist 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The main advantage of a carbon fiber violin would be durability, considering it's made of the same material used in pro bikes, F1 cars, and aircraft. Not a bad instrument for a kid who's not very careful.

    • @chavaflores3062
      @chavaflores3062 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liist Durability ? there are working violins dating back from 300 years... is that supposed to be an "oportunity area" for an old fashioned wooden violin ? cheers!

    • @Ala13ManOWar
      @Ala13ManOWar 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liist I don't blame material, carbon fiber is truly good. But we talk about violin sound. For a not very careful kid I would always buy a cheap violin, not an expensive F1 carbon fiber one. And when they are grown and experienced players a wooden violin still has better sound, so I don't see the point in the carbon fiber ones but aesthetics. May be in the future they achieve a better sound with carbon fiber than wood and then that's a point to prefer them. Just that.

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ala13ManOWar Well- the statements are split concerning sound. I personally prefer the carbon violin due to its better playability. And durability - we are not talking about kids but about travelling, outside performances, airplane freight rooms and all these things. And finally once again sound - we just won the german prize for musical instruments 2015 with the carbon violin, beating off 22 mastermade wooden violins. Jury was 5 famous solists, blind testing. What about that?

    • @Ala13ManOWar
      @Ala13ManOWar 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      mezzofortegermany
      Nice of course ;).

  • @hminkema
    @hminkema 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As you can see in the reactions below, people apply their favorite prejudices when listening to this 'comparison' (which is not a real comparison because the two violins do not play the same notes or lines). They are able to do so because they *know* which violin is which.
    It would have been more interesting if you had each violin play a number of phrases, totally blind for us, listeners, and have us *guess* which was the wooden violin and which the carbon. Then, after half a year of collecting responses on TH-cam, you could have given us the 'correct answer', and you could have calculated how many of the people were right & wrong. If there is actually no difference in sound quality, only 50% of the people would have given the correct answer.
    Even more interesting, you could have given us the 'correct answer' wich was in fact the wrong answer, collect responses to it from people who claim that "it was obvious" and "I could hear it right away" and "the wooden one was warmer/was deeper/had more overtones" etc. and then one month later you could have revealed the *real* correct answer, making everyone look like fools.
    An even better set-up of this experiment would include several wooden and several carbon violins.

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well those are interesting suggestions indeed. However I would not lilke to "fool" the community which is interested in our videos or seeking informations on carbon fiber instruments. This video shows what intends to show: The carbon fiber violin can at least match the sound of a much more expensive wooden instrument. This video, together with many others, will at least give potential customers an idea and help to decrease prejudices.

  • @jackhanan2872
    @jackhanan2872 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I don't claim to be an expert, but the thing about a wood instrument, from my experience as a double bassist, is that it grows to your playing. When I first bought my bass, it was an okay instrument, but having played it for almost 40 years, it's grown tremendously in sound. I think what makes those old Stradivarius and other antique instruments so great, isn't just the remarkable artistry involved in the making of these instruments, but also all the great musicians who have taught the instruments to sing as they do. Just my humble opinion. Thoughts?

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Jack Hanan Absolutely correct. Each Strad or old italian instrument has its own history. They all have grown with time and with the gifted musicians who played them. This is however not what our carbon fiber instruments are aiming at. We do not want to present them as a substitute to old italian instruments, but as a supplement.

    • @MrWishbone21
      @MrWishbone21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you played a 40 year old carbon fiber instrument lately? It will be interesting to see if they change for the better. I know with carbon fiber softball bats, they get much better over time.

    • @jackhanan2872
      @jackhanan2872 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hmmm. I wonder if there's any way to scientifically gauge whether CF instruments change over time.

    • @sylvaindescoteaux6959
      @sylvaindescoteaux6959 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      its like wine , it becomes better with time ...the wood does have a vibrating memory and it does transform in time :)

    • @CalvinLau_the_plasmanaut
      @CalvinLau_the_plasmanaut 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, what you could really do to analyze the differences between the instruments is to look at the intensities of the harmonics. The "richness" quality is timbre, which is essentially the intensities of the harmonics. It's actually a little bit more complicated, but I think for the purposes of understanding the differences, if we just analyzed the intensities of the harmonics over time, we'd get a sense of the differences between the two material.

  • @rue883
    @rue883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m deciding even now if I should take up the violin, and, if so, how I will go about choosing a mid level violin, when I don’t even know how to play. (I’m not going to buy a student violin, so don’t go there). I can’t understand the comments about not being able to compare the violins if they are both playing at the same time. This, to me, is the most relevant video, or comment on the comparison between two violins. The voices go back and forth, making it possible to evaluate the sound in a live context with literally another violin standing next to it.
    So, thanks for the video.
    I have my headphones on, and, keep flipping back through passages.
    To me, at least so far, in the mids, the wood violin has more timbre, where the cf is more pure (less colored). Because of this, I can see why there would be resistance to cf. but, it for those that can’t pick apart the two voices, it seems pretty clear that both violins are holding their own in this duet. So in a quartet, or full symphony, it is reasonable to believe the same would be true.
    As for me, I’ll listen more and think about timbre, purity, ease of care, solo vs group, and if I am ready for the torture of learning to play the violin.

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for this detailed comment. Apart from whether you decide for a cf violin or not (although a cf violin would make your learning much easier, because of its excellent response) I just want to mention that learning the violin is NOT a torture but a joy. True - its not easy and you have to keep on it, but if you do, you will be rewarded every day.

    • @rue883
      @rue883 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      mezzofortegermany
      I would agree that there is a joy in learning, the surprise of discovery and hope and striving for beauty.
      To this point in my life I have taken an easier path, and just go to the symphony and enjoy the beauty that others have worked hard to create. I love the violin, and the idea of playing. Maybe it is time for me to strive as well.

  • @langjones3846
    @langjones3846 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Would have been a better test had you swapped parts halfway through.

    • @tonyelder
      @tonyelder หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL. You weren't watching very closely - were you?

  • @95thRiflesOCI
    @95thRiflesOCI 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I owned a luis and clark, and I use it as a 2nd violin. It doesn't sound as rich but its extremely light and I love the carbon fittings / shoulder rest I have on it.

  • @kensington848
    @kensington848 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The left one sounds beautiful,but the right one is unbeatable.

  • @alexanderle1610
    @alexanderle1610 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For example, the german wood violin is more silvery in tone and resonates more because of the material and build. The carbon fiber on the the other hand is more vibrating and projects more. Projection is different than resonating because with the wood violin you can feel the notes moving with the flourishes. Where as projection is simply louder.

  • @No-pm4ss
    @No-pm4ss 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Would have been much better if you played the separately.

  • @TheAudivisioner
    @TheAudivisioner ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone remember the Ovation round back guitars?
    A lot of guitarist used them for touring and live work. Some even used them in the studio.
    Over the years, they installed piezo pickups in the bridge, making it easier to move around the performance area (Nee: the stage).
    The primary problem were that after a series of years, they developed a long crack under the bridge.
    They made a nylon classical guitar as well.
    The sound was highly comparable to the all wood instruments. They also made a very sturdy twelve string guitar as well.
    Don't forget the Steinberger Electric bass. The premier headless bass.
    Carbon instruments have their advantages. Lighter weight, easier tuning, lower cost, and an ideal touring/traveling instrument. You con't have to worry about wood shifting and constantly resetting the soundpost. You don't have to worry about those winter/summer bridge changes.
    Not a lot of disadvantages. Tone personality is up to the individual
    Wonder how this instrument would sound with nylon/gut strings over general metal strings.

    • @jameschristiansson3137
      @jameschristiansson3137 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ovation was made by a subsidiary of Kaman Corporation, A helicopter manufacturer. Interesting heritage.

  • @BloodRider1914
    @BloodRider1914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well to be fair a good musician can make any instrument sound good

  • @ubacow7109
    @ubacow7109 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Im no violinist but I feel like i can hear the difference in where they would be used. I think a carbon fiber violin is a more capable tool, it sounds like it could be used in a more modern music whereas the traditional wooden one is almost classical. I think the carbon fiber one sounds more versatile.

    • @konstalindi4259
      @konstalindi4259 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. I also think the carbon fiber is more versatile. And you can actually buy your violin with a built in pickup from Mezzo forte. I'm seriously contemplating on buying one from them.

  • @jessebondmusic
    @jessebondmusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    really would have been better to hear these playing the same phrase back to back, but separately

  • @pervertishere2062
    @pervertishere2062 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    to me one sounds like a diva, strong with a deep voice, while the other one an opera singer,classy but beautiful.

  • @77techno78
    @77techno78 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice comparison, I like the sound of both, but the carbon sounds interestingly sweeter.

  • @sisfantasto7004
    @sisfantasto7004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound very nice together and I love the rich sound of the Carbon.

  • @ericksonlk
    @ericksonlk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, both sound nice but are also very distinct. It's very easy to tell them apart after a while.

  • @Gabihorse
    @Gabihorse 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both are wonderful!! :D

  • @copicsans8605
    @copicsans8605 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I played that song on my cello! My sister plays violin, my mom and I play cello, my dad plays string bass, and my little brother might start viola!

    • @nanashafiqa1422
      @nanashafiqa1422 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      CopicSans what tittle that song?

  • @gnostic77
    @gnostic77 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 10 acoustic guitars. Some very expensive and handmade, i.e. Lowden, Taylor, Cordoba, just to name a few. I always wanted a carbon fiber (composite) guitar. Like most of you are saying, they always sounded a little shrill. But, I purchase a carbon fiber Emerald and now I seldom take out my other guitars. It actually sounds better than my other guitars and it has become my one and only touring guitar. It also records extremely well. I like both violins in this video. PS: The Emerald guitar holds its tuning at least 10 times as well as my other guitars which have the same Gotoh 510 tuners.

  • @RehabProjectSRCB
    @RehabProjectSRCB 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they may play alot alike and sound good but you can clearly see the difference in him, he plays the carbon violin like it's someone else's or a duty, he plays his violin with passion and love you can see in every movement that that instrument and him and in sync and that he loves playing it, that is the difference no matter the instrument you must connect to it and let it be a part of you and he absolutely has that with the wood one but the arbor one he does not

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Steven Crawley Steven, thats not correct. Although I am familiar with the wooden one since 40 years, I still have to concentrate very much while playing it. The carbon fiber plays much easier which might look as if I am not connected with it. But be sure - I am. I play the carbon fiber violin in all chamber music rehearsals and concerts for more than two years now, and have received nothing but positive feedback from my fellow musicians.

  • @cyppy7473
    @cyppy7473 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was amazing 😦 i wonder if i can play like that when i grow up🤔

  • @chuckcassel5417
    @chuckcassel5417 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done sir!

  • @chavaflores3062
    @chavaflores3062 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it's pretty easy to notice the tone difference, plus I don't know but I suppose that there might also be a kind of playability difference, and that maybe carbon fiber won't improve with time as a wooden one, but still looks like a good piece, and if it is more affordable to players then I think it can be a good alternative. Good vid!

  • @mundier.8281
    @mundier.8281 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The CF seems better with higher notes whereas the wood seems to do better with accentuation. Just my opinion.

  • @albertinapeswa
    @albertinapeswa 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you😊

  • @potatoavacadonion1025
    @potatoavacadonion1025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    benefit of carbon fiber violin is that it is lighter and imo easier to play on as well as you dont have to worry about warping due to temperature too much, the cost though is that you sacrifice the richness and warmth of the wooden violin's sound, and also (If you have a gloss carbon fiber violin) you will get fingerprints, also it is WAY more expensive because no crap its carbon fiber

  • @PalavraVivaUSA
    @PalavraVivaUSA 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How did you record this? Is there a tutorial on how to do it? I love it!!!

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Leo Costa Well I recorded the first voice with a metronome on the headphones, saved it as first track (Logic Pro, but you can use any other software), and then I recorded the 2nd voice with the 1st on the headphones, saved it as second track. Then some balancing and detail work, and done.

  • @piperharvey5906
    @piperharvey5906 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    are you using a carbon fiber bow for the c.f violin? what's your opinion on the bows?

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Music MakerXx Sometimes I use my ARCUS carbon fiber bow, sometimes my old wooden bow, depending on the piece which I am playing. I believe that there are excellent cf bows on the market which match even the best wooden bows regarding playability, sound and balance. However its always the same unfortunately: Excellent goods have their price.

  • @torielric
    @torielric 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Both violins sound amazing! I actually clapped when you were done playing! ^^;
    I might look into getting a carbon violin in the future!

  • @TheMinibrucelee
    @TheMinibrucelee 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What model of violin did you use? Both the wooden and CF.

  • @alexanderle1610
    @alexanderle1610 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Even though they are played at the same time, you can still pick out subtle differences in pitch and tone. It takes a musician's ear to notice this.

  • @mayamiller4845
    @mayamiller4845 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I'm watching this as a bassist and I'm wondering, what sizes does the violin go to. The bass is 4/4 or whole size, and the instrament has a peg so it can "grow" with you. Does the violin reach only to full size or can they be made larger. I have a friend who is 5'5" and uses a full size but if a 6'3" buff man were to play, would he use a larger instrament? Also, what is the biggest viola size. I know they don't use the same sizing method because, my friend is learning to play. But she dosnt know the biggest size. If you can answer any questions, it would be nice! Thanks!

    • @MaestroTJS
      @MaestroTJS 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, violins are not made larger for larger people. Apparently some adults choose to play a 7/8 violin though. Violas are not quite as standardized as the other string instruments and can be found in slightly different sizes even at "full size." The largest are 16 to 16.5 inches.

  • @matthewk7394
    @matthewk7394 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only found this after listening to the Lipinski doc on BBC. I know nothing about violins, but to my ears there are clear harmonic differences between these two violins. The carbon sounds like it has a bit more volume, a bit more bass. Am I hearing a resonant note in the carbon? It seems to have a booming note.

  • @sthylax11
    @sthylax11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! May I ask what the size of your violin is? If I am correct it is 3/4. If yes, is it not too small for you? Coz' I have the same size and it bothers me that it might be affecting my learning progress. Thank you.

    • @ananyakopalle3051
      @ananyakopalle3051 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevin Villanueva Im 5’1 and I have a 4/4 lmao that’s probably to small

  • @carlweiderick
    @carlweiderick 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice! Surprisingly rich tone with the carbon fibre instrument.

  • @kikoparedes5064
    @kikoparedes5064 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    it has a nice blending

  • @destinyjones6701
    @destinyjones6701 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    not necessarily fair. the wooden violin has cheap strings ($15-20) while the carbon fiber violin have Evah Pirrazi strings($85-95). though the wooden still sounds better, fair game is using the same strings for a proper evaluation.

    • @GraceUMun
      @GraceUMun 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every string brand and style uses a signature color. I can't tell what strings are used for the wooden violin because I can't see it very well, but when he holds up the carbon fiber violin, the green and black wrapping of the string right by the tailpiece is the signature color for Evah Pirazzi.

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As I said above, Evah Pirazzi are indeed on the carbon violin, and Warchal Brilliant which are NOT cheap strings on the wooden.

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The strings are not cheap at all. 15-20$ isd nonsense. tHey are even more expensive than Evah.

  • @jmdooo150
    @jmdooo150 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have a link for the music sheet of that? can I have it?

  • @angeloneill9955
    @angeloneill9955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The wooden violin has a more lively voice, the carbon comes out very distinctive, not a bad thing it does sound good.

  • @erlethepearl
    @erlethepearl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Danke - sehr gut!

  • @DenVaagheid
    @DenVaagheid 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm not an expert, but on one of the violin, your stick sounds jumpier. Are you using the same stick?

    • @ananyakopalle3051
      @ananyakopalle3051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DenVaagheid stick 😂😂😂 it’s a bow btw and u made my day

  • @CandyLand484
    @CandyLand484 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @jiejohtv4953
    @jiejohtv4953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can i compare that to my mind?

  • @Updog89
    @Updog89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think each would have its strengths and weaknesses in different contexts. Depending on the tones and textures of everything else that is in the mix. In some ways the carbon fiber feels a bit more like a blank slate. I suspect it would take pedals well and be better suited for more eclectic and modern styles.
    But I wonder, which one feels better to play! The feel of the instrument is impossible to know from a video, so I’d hope the demonstator could tell us his impressions. Much like how electric and acoustic guitars feel different, what is the experience to play them?

  • @nik.ran1
    @nik.ran1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most of us have our own opinions as to which one sounds better. But, I have to admit the Carbon fiber violin looks badass

  • @FiddlerSteve
    @FiddlerSteve 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me the CF fiddle sounds pretty mid-rangey, even using the Arcus bow which in my experience tends to be on the bright side (my utility bow is an Arcus Sinfonia). Much better sound than I was expecting though; may have to check one of these out since I would love to have a "bullet-proof" violin for outdoor gigs, etc.! Thanks for posting!

  • @walterehn1998
    @walterehn1998 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    spiele diese Geige seit 2 Jahren, bin sehr zufrieden!

  • @lopaka79
    @lopaka79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many musicians able to Hear the difference???
    Guessing all of them. The CF violin sounds deeper on the lower end but slightly duller on the higher.
    EDIT: It looks like you used different strings on each instrument. Are those Soloist strings on the Wooden Violin?

  • @ZeruelZ19
    @ZeruelZ19 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is some people that mention the fact that you are playing both at the same time, I am a guitarrist and kinda know you are playing yeah both but not the same melody so i can say this, the carbon fiber one seems to me more "warm" in terms of low end and the wood one seems to be more round, less highs and "sweet" sounding, nice comparison!

  • @threepalmsstrings1587
    @threepalmsstrings1587 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked the "comparison". I have a hard time hearing subtle differences when one is played after another. For me, this piece was very good to hear the two violins - their strengths and weaknesses. Its length enables focusing in, since you hear similar passages multiple times while alternating violins. All in all, I would say well done. I did notice that the strings of the CF were Evah Pirazzi, but not sure what was used on the wooden instrument. I can't help but wonder what impact the different stings had on what was heard.

  • @AmandaViolinGirl
    @AmandaViolinGirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can you compare when this is a duet. I was expecting to hear them separately

  • @Pickinbuddy
    @Pickinbuddy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful....I have yet to try out the carbon fiber instruments. Personally, I would like to see them build a carbon fiber Gibson F-5 type mandolin. I was very surprised to learn that they have now developed carbon fiber classical guitar strings. They are a brighter string, probably best suited for a darker or mellower sounding older instrument.

  • @soundaffects8352
    @soundaffects8352 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually think I prefer the carbon fibre one!! :-O
    It sounds sweet, warm, and mellow - with no harshness or shrillness. I was expecting it to have a hard, cold sound, with no resonance. It reminds me of the sound of a muted violin.
    Plus it looks cool.

  • @duncanandrew3307
    @duncanandrew3307 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every wooden violin sounds different, and the musician can choose what they like most. Is there the same choice with CF, or are they more uniform in tone?

  • @kenanklovitch8117
    @kenanklovitch8117 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    I just gave a lovely acoustic Glasser carbon fibre violin to my friend last night. For some reason the violin didn't make any musical sound, there is just a scraping or scratching sound. My friend already plays a violin and understands how to tune it and how to apply rosin to the bow.
    We all love the look and feel of the violin and have watched plenty of beautiful videos but are completely stumped as to what is happening.
    My friend will be trying to figure it out today and as well try a different bow.
    What could we possibly be doing wrong?

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well a "lovely acoustic Glasser" does not seem to work very well, maybe you should have chosen a cf violin with quality - such as mezzo-forte.

    • @kenanklovitch8117
      @kenanklovitch8117 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mezzofortegermany Sir, I was asking for help, the Glasser is working fine now and is perfect for my friends needs at the moment. Unhelpful comments like yours are not done in the spirit of helping each other. No subscription coming from me.

  • @usfenderfsdlx
    @usfenderfsdlx 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually liked that smoother and slightly darker (but still clear sound) of the carbon fiber.

  • @IamUncledeuce
    @IamUncledeuce 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did hear the differences. I prefer the wood with its richer tone and how the wood resonates as the instutes reactes to 5he sound waves produced. The carbon fiber is not without merit and under certain conditions would be preferable for sake of rejecting adverse recations to various hazards associated with environmental stress.

  • @fransvanhelvoort1083
    @fransvanhelvoort1083 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great playing. I like this comparison. I do like the way you switch between melody and accompaniment with the two violins. When I read the comments below I think there must be something incredibly wrong with my ears because to me the carbon is much sweeter and less shrill than the wooden violin on the A and E string. The G and D are almost even to me. So I like the sound of the carbon more over the wooden violin, but I do not like the looks!

  • @VinVo
    @VinVo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find that the Carbon Fiber has a much brighter resonant sound, as opposed to the wooden one that has an aged, darker and richer sound. Personally, I really have a preference for aged wooden violins, but I think the Carbon Fiber would have more sound production shifting on the E-string. I don't know the differences yet but I can hear well based on the sound. To the people that can't really tell the difference, it'd be hard to know unless you've played multiple violins of ages and wood variations. I think both instruments are beautiful. Although the wood violin doesn't resonate as well as it would before from what it sounds like. By the way, I used to think a Strad was the game changer, it's really not haha.

  • @orgelkraft
    @orgelkraft 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think a violinist would be missing much using the carbon fibre instrument in a group setting, it does blend well. Does it do as well in a solo situation?

  • @shehatesmarv3402
    @shehatesmarv3402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12 little duets

  • @Oneness100
    @Oneness100 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be nice if you had some acoustic treatment to cut down all of the reflections and reverb in the room to hear the actual instrument better. Just a suggestion.

  • @pessce
    @pessce 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    So interesting. I really like the sound around the e-string on the carbon, slightly less shrill, but I find the sound a bit thin and uncomplicated otherwise. I think you are getting the wooden fiddle to "sing" marginally better.

  • @keinacane
    @keinacane 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The carbon fibre has a richer and rougher voice/tone however it is very nice to listen to with the traditional violin. The carbon fibre could be used for contempary music also i believe. Its dark chocolate like texture in the tone is absolutely stunning!! However i prefer the traditional violin because it has a warmer and kinder voice.

  • @kaansancaktarmusic
    @kaansancaktarmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is it a comparison if you play them at the same time?

  • @oussamasammari
    @oussamasammari 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    aww this is awesome i like the both good job and vive germany!

  • @PalavraVivaUSA
    @PalavraVivaUSA 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What Kind of bow are you using? I watch this a few times a day ! lol

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Leo Costa I use an ARCUS A5 carbon fiber bow, which is my absolute favourite for 2 years now.

  • @dzhyako96
    @dzhyako96 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @Rosedarling303
    @Rosedarling303 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have one of these carbon
    Fiber bass available!!! Someone please point me
    On the right direction to get it to the right home!!!

  • @hamburgsperle324
    @hamburgsperle324 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Die Carbongeige hat einen tollen, weichen Klang!

  • @santiago9ish
    @santiago9ish 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the carbon fiber one lighter and stronger?

  • @jackhanan2872
    @jackhanan2872 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, I hope I didn't sound to detracting. I've heard carbon fiber instruments and been really impressed, as I was when I heard yours. Believe me, when I see my bass coming home from gigs with yet another ding, or worse, I often wish I had a CF. Sorry if I seemed too negative.

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jack Hanan No you did not. You hit the point regarding old wooden instrument, and I fully agree with you.

  • @josef1ores
    @josef1ores 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the carbon fiber violin does not surpass the wooden one, but it is very versatile for practices, trips and outdoor concerts. You do not have to worry about the rain or that the violin receives a blow. The sound is also pretty good

  • @MiLaDoB
    @MiLaDoB 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    for non musicians
    who have relatively little or no experience in ear training
    this guy is playing them both correct, but he is playing different parts in a piece on each violin
    like question and answer
    or first violin and second violin
    try to differentiate between both
    it's easy
    as for me
    wood all the way
    it's aged
    more feelings
    I don't like any other than wood
    interesting to find out though
    how much is the carbon fibre?

  • @sr.p2931
    @sr.p2931 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody knows about what is the music that he is playing? I really want to know how to play this music. Anyone who has found this partiture on the internet please, send me the link!

    • @mezzofortegermany
      @mezzofortegermany  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just look one line below, there you find the link to the sheet music.

  • @Fenrasulfr
    @Fenrasulfr 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that the difference in sound is more a product of the shspe of the resonance chamber then the material.

  • @garlicpepper1334
    @garlicpepper1334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cf in this one is inferior but the good thing about CF is that the material can be made precisely unlike wood

  • @jefferson33
    @jefferson33 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    onde eu compro esse violino?
    no Brasil tem?

  • @LacourWave
    @LacourWave 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuck the comparison i enjoyed this song very much

  • @LaserGryph
    @LaserGryph 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    From what I did hear, the carbon fiber one sounded hollow and metallic. But I can't be completely sure.
    How in the world did this guy think playing them at the same time was going to be a satisfactory comparison?

  • @fiddlefaddle1
    @fiddlefaddle1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would suppose that if the carbon fiber violin sounds fantastic, then that's it. It will never sound better than what it sounds now. Whereas the wood violin may sound great when it is first played but, soon and throughout the years , it will improve with age. Also, when you look at an aged violin and see the little imperfections in the surface, you remember where they all come from and your growth as a violinist. With the carbon fiber violin, you just see scuff marks and hairline cracks and keep thinking, I've got to get this to the paint shop for body work.

  • @doceigen
    @doceigen 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are the scrolling oscilloscope or spectrographic traces?

  • @richardm3421
    @richardm3421 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to like the carbon fibre but ended up preferring the sound of the wood violin^^

  • @walterserrano6911
    @walterserrano6911 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell me what the song is called please

  • @ClickerQuiz
    @ClickerQuiz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make good things.

  • @serkanbertan984
    @serkanbertan984 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i can tell the difference immediately. ok maybe it would have been better to have a chance to hear them both seperately but it works. this video for the experienced ears in case of if you are considering to buy an a few thousand euros instrument!