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one of the best episodes in a show that had pretty high standards. the scenes with dugdale and keith were outstanding .they went quite deeply for a weekly cop show into the intelligence service its real performance as opposed to the view we have of it from spy novels.keith in fact sums it up by saying its all just games.certainly true of the period they were discussing where virtually everyone high up in the service was spying for the russians! even rodger hollis the equivalent of m was almost certainly a russian agent or spy!thorley walters switch from old pal reminiscing over a few malts with a pal to subtle interrogator was beautifully realised.in fact the whole sting him asking his ex mi6 mate about a prospective agent he wants to recruit as a ruse to get close to his old pal to denounce him would make a great two handed play onstage ! act 1 chatting about the lads qaulifications keiths opinion etc .act two then men in keiths study laughing and drinking over several malts both descibing old cases and experiences guys theyve known like philby meeting hitler dugdale praising keith lamenting he left but strangely curious about dates.then act three where it goes from a pleasent chat into interrogation then the revelation of the truth dugdales known for years and the reason why they let him continue false info and keiths reasons for his betrayal.be a great one set two hander.at the same time as the show went out anthony blunt was revealed as a long term spy who was left alone like keith though never prosecuted.so spot on accuracy wise .brilliant episode.
Thanks for your reflections on this episode. Yes, it was all nicely done, with an almost "Tinker, Tailor..." feel, but with a lighter touch. Post-Cold War, the intelligence services have IMHO latterly taken quite a different tack, seemingly now more commited to global governance ambitions, chiefly in alliance - in a now junior capacity of course - with the broad hegemonic agenda (I'm thinking of the onging post-Reagan Wolfowitz Doctrine) and contemporary Neocon thrust of America/NATO, who have an almost pathological hatred of anything Russian - so the misty-eyed allegiance and communist sympathising of previous generations of intellectuals seems somewhat at odds with what we're experiencing now. In short, I don't think the bods at 5 and 6 are batting for our side these days - and perhaps weren't entirely either back when this drama was made, with rather murky associations in NI. Anyway, food for thought. Thanks again for your comment.
@@FoogouFilms indeed i read an article a couple of years ago by a historian that said a history of the troubles was almost impossible to write due to the influence of the security sevices on both sides .in fact rather like the cias activities they set up so many bombings false flags assassinations that the actual terrorist groups had no idea who was doing what.getting both sides round the table in peacetime has revealed that the leaders of both factions had no idea the security people were supplying weapons and explosives picking targets etc .the conclusion reached was that for mysterious reasons the funny people wanted to keep the troubles going.they found a willing partner in thatcher who liked wars for her political ends .she thought it made her look strong.we may never know.often it seems in the world of espionage they start something that then takes on a life of its own like contragate.excellent episode though .
@@mikekemp9877 Yes, all well put. My suspicion is that during the intervening years since Thatcher, there has been a degree of mission creep from the security services, especially after the fall of the Berlin wall; they were in danger of being relatively superfluous in a much less antagonist world (as too with CIA, FBI etc), so new enemies needed to be created, and perhaps nurtured. I realise this sounds rather cycnical, but of course these organisations often need rather cold, calculating, and possibly borderline sociopathic "assets" who can infiltrate various establishment bodies in order to do their work. We are maybe witnessing the fulmination of this agenda in very recent times. The people one would expect to show level-headed thinking are the very ones who are making reckless decisions on behalf of all of us. Compared to, say, the era of the Cuban missile crisis, there seems relatively little concern from the wider populace as to just how dangerous matters are becoming geopolitcally. At least Krushchev and Kennedy (I always think of Queen's "Killer Queen" when I'm reminded of those linked names!) were able to collectively come back from the brink by way of back channels. Fingers and toes crossed for now.
Yes, it was. I lived there for many years (including when this episode was filmed) and therefore recognise many of the locations (inlcuding a scene at one of my favourite pubs, The Turf Tavern), later to become well known to a wider audience via Inspector Morse.
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Always great to see the brilliant Thorley Walters superb. Thank you
Its great to watch this fine TV series once more. Thank you.
"Was so very agreeable to listen to and more fun to play.." beautiful! 😘
Excellent thank you !!!
Good and unusual episode, of which I will say no more!
This is the silliest I've seen Bulman since "The Wheeler Dealers".
Excellent !!!
Yeah, I spotted Sabina right off. What a beaut!
All new to me, and I am delighted. Heaps of appreciation for your work!
Thats Sir Roland Percival from Nozin around, nozin around via the young ones! "Getting down?" "Right down, thank you!"
Thank good computer fraud is a rarity...
one of the best episodes in a show that had pretty high standards. the scenes with dugdale and keith were outstanding .they went quite deeply for a weekly cop show into the intelligence service its real performance as opposed to the view we have of it from spy novels.keith in fact sums it up by saying its all just games.certainly true of the period they were discussing where virtually everyone high up in the service was spying for the russians! even rodger hollis the equivalent of m was almost certainly a russian agent or spy!thorley walters switch from old pal reminiscing over a few malts with a pal to subtle interrogator was beautifully realised.in fact the whole sting him asking his ex mi6 mate about a prospective agent he wants to recruit as a ruse to get close to his old pal to denounce him would make a great two handed play onstage ! act 1 chatting about the lads qaulifications keiths opinion etc .act two then men in keiths study laughing and drinking over several malts both descibing old cases and experiences guys theyve known like philby meeting hitler dugdale praising keith lamenting he left but strangely curious about dates.then act three where it goes from a pleasent chat into interrogation then the revelation of the truth dugdales known for years and the reason why they let him continue false info and keiths reasons for his betrayal.be a great one set two hander.at the same time as the show went out anthony blunt was revealed as a long term spy who was left alone like keith though never prosecuted.so spot on accuracy wise .brilliant episode.
Thanks for your reflections on this episode. Yes, it was all nicely done, with an almost "Tinker, Tailor..." feel, but with a lighter touch.
Post-Cold War, the intelligence services have IMHO latterly taken quite a different tack, seemingly now more commited to global governance ambitions, chiefly in alliance - in a now junior capacity of course - with the broad hegemonic agenda (I'm thinking of the onging post-Reagan Wolfowitz Doctrine) and contemporary Neocon thrust of America/NATO, who have an almost pathological hatred of anything Russian - so the misty-eyed allegiance and communist sympathising of previous generations of intellectuals seems somewhat at odds with what we're experiencing now. In short, I don't think the bods at 5 and 6 are batting for our side these days - and perhaps weren't entirely either back when this drama was made, with rather murky associations in NI. Anyway, food for thought.
Thanks again for your comment.
@@FoogouFilms indeed i read an article a couple of years ago by a historian that said a history of the troubles was almost impossible to write due to the influence of the security sevices on both sides .in fact rather like the cias activities they set up so many bombings false flags assassinations that the actual terrorist groups had no idea who was doing what.getting both sides round the table in peacetime has revealed that the leaders of both factions had no idea the security people were supplying weapons and explosives picking targets etc .the conclusion reached was that for mysterious reasons the funny people wanted to keep the troubles going.they found a willing partner in thatcher who liked wars for her political ends .she thought it made her look strong.we may never know.often it seems in the world of espionage they start something that then takes on a life of its own like contragate.excellent episode though .
@@mikekemp9877 Yes, all well put. My suspicion is that during the intervening years since Thatcher, there has been a degree of mission creep from the security services, especially after the fall of the Berlin wall; they were in danger of being relatively superfluous in a much less antagonist world (as too with CIA, FBI etc), so new enemies needed to be created, and perhaps nurtured. I realise this sounds rather cycnical, but of course these organisations often need rather cold, calculating, and possibly borderline sociopathic "assets" who can infiltrate various establishment bodies in order to do their work. We are maybe witnessing the fulmination of this agenda in very recent times. The people one would expect to show level-headed thinking are the very ones who are making reckless decisions on behalf of all of us. Compared to, say, the era of the Cuban missile crisis, there seems relatively little concern from the wider populace as to just how dangerous matters are becoming geopolitcally. At least Krushchev and Kennedy (I always think of Queen's "Killer Queen" when I'm reminded of those linked names!) were able to collectively come back from the brink by way of back channels. Fingers and toes crossed for now.
An okay episode. It dragged a bit here and there, especially with Dugdale involved, but I know it gets better down the road!
Good to hear The Cockney Rejects @10:00. Oi oi
Shoot, Boy Wonder probably even lied about who owned the house.
Was this actually filmed in Oxford?
Yes, it was. I lived there for many years (including when this episode was filmed) and therefore recognise many of the locations (inlcuding a scene at one of my favourite pubs, The Turf Tavern), later to become well known to a wider audience via Inspector Morse.
@@FoogouFilmsCool.
@@FoogouFilms thank you for adding the interesting background information
@@13699111 Nice of you to say, thanks.
How significant is Dugdale? Something off about that old geezer.
I couldn't possibly comment ;-)
@@FoogouFilmsOf course, I might think that.
Thank God computer fraud is a rarity ...😮
It's OK, I guessed you meant God ;-)
@@FoogouFilms bloody computer paying up...
50:00. ... and to criminals.
Sister???