17:58 "Thankfully, being stupid, you can forget about it after 30 seconds if you're stupid, so it's nice." Probably my favorite quote from this "Understand" series yet!
Struggled for quite some time to figure out the 5-? rule set, but when I had it down the 5-?-6 to 5-?-9 metapuzzle ended up being my favorite puzzle in the game so far, especially since I could do it all with logic instead of experimentation. Though I’m not yet finished the game, so who knows, maybe some of the later ? levels will surprise me.
5-? was the first time I had to pull out notes to start doing all the logic. Enjoyed it a lot, was a good challenge. Later ones are their own challenge
@@dinamosflams So essentially, the cubes you are seeing represents the level within 5-?. The mini square has a stencil of the way you solved the puzzle room. What is happening is the way you enter the puzzle and complete it has to match the stencil which corresponds to the 5-?-Level you're on. After a while he got to the "Pre-Drawn" stencils. What was happening is that the puzzle that has the 1-cube stencil and the 3-cube stencil means you have to solve THAT puzzle entering at the same spots that those 2 stencils indicate, and end on the same that those 2 stencils indicate. As he was moving forward, he solved Puzzle 1, which had a 1-cube puzzle on it. He started it a circle and ended on a circle. This matched the stencil on the 1-cube. He then did this for puzzle 3. The next puzzle has a 1-cube stencil and a 3-cube stencil. He had to solve puzzle for the same say puzzle 1 and 3 were solved while also solving for the rule. This created going back to remake puzzles, solving the rule in a different enter-exit circle event horizon, so the later puzzles with stencils of previous puzzles would coorespond to the activity within that puzzle... then the next puzzle would need to adhere to the previous puzzle's ruleset, with an even previousy puzzle's stencil. Hope that helps.
@@Tiggy227 Honestly the whole bonus puzzle is cool when you figure out the rule, but 20:16 specifically. The 4 puzzles are intertwined circularly (the earlier puzzles depend on the future puzzles, but the future puzzles also depend on the past puzzles so there's no clear start or end) so you really have to consider all of them at once to solve it. It's super satisfying to pull off
@@Bad-Sir Yee (it was sorta a joke bc the level has a ? In the name) but I totally agree. I'm too dumb for that shit and so I watch my man's Tyler do it and make it look easy
I’ve been dealing with a lot of anxiety and trouble sleeping from recent life events, but Tyler’s videos always seem to calm me down and bring me level enough to get some rest, thanks for the great content man
I like how most of the difficulty was on it being a normal traditional puzzle than finding out this time The bonus has probably been the best though with both understanding and difficulty and Uniqueness
Love watching anything that really puts to use Tyler's puzzle solving skills. During the pandemic I started watching sudoku solvers solve complex unique sudokus, and tyler shows similar abilities from what I can see.
This game has some crazy puzzles, thanks for bringing awareness of it to me. Ended up using notepad and a bit of excel to map out and solve some of the hard ones that come up later
Man, I'm definitely getting this Puzzle for my younger bro lol. Children would hate it but it's seemingly the best puzzle there is to teach them deduction and assumptions in game form
i like how he knows that every section of levels have a specific rule and that the section 5 was wirh numbers but he did not realize how the last one used it
Logical deduction is a very important skill in this game, it saves you a lot of pain trying out solutions when you can just cut them off based on what is and isn’t possible within the puzzle restrictions.
It seems all the ? Levels are connected to each other so maybe working backwards could be the best way to solving them, either way, I’m glad you do eventually solve it and explain it
What makes it funnier to me is, I think he might have actually had the rule down, but failed to execute it correctly without noticing (and therefore thinking he had the rule wrong).
@@robinlindgren6429 tyler in some of these levels, like the last few of each section and a meta level or two, manages to either get a vague idea that somehow works or cheeses his way through. i guess this feature would provide some closure
@@galvinn I guess, but the way I see it is: the name of the game is both figuratively and literally 'understand', the goal of the game in my opinion isn't to get checkmarks on the level select, it's literally to understand the levels. therefore, if you haven't understood it, then you haven't completed it. so even if you get the checkmark by accident, the appropriate thing to do if you want to 'complete' the game is to go back into the same level and experiment until you understand it. I did that for I think 4 or 5 levels in total that I checkmarked by accident before I understood what the rules were. I figured every one of them out eventually, with the possible exception of one: [blank]-9 is a level where I know how to solve every puzzle in the level (and I know every solution to every puzzle) and I have found a theory of the solution that is consistent with every puzzle in the level, but that theory is not simple to express, so I don't think it's the real rule. but that rule is consistent with all data I have available and I have tried my best to simplify it to the simplest that I can, I have even found different ways of expressing the same rule, but all of them have this weird tinge of arbitraryness to them that makes me unable to shake the feeling that that rule would break if I had more examples of the puzzle. that is my minor purgatory I guess, and such is inductive science; you don't get to know whether you are right. you only get to know whether your theory fits the data. edit: [blank]-8 is very similar to [blank]-9 but the rule I have found for that one is simple and elegant so I believe that is in fact the intended solution.
@@robinlindgren6429 makes sense. i think my view of this game way limited to the very linear progression of this series, and how tyler never goes back to a previous level (with the exception of 4-9, which he still has yet to finish >:( )
(0:04) 5-1: Intro to Dots (0:54) 5-2: Easy as 1-2-3 (2:14) 5-3: Up to 9 (2:52) 5-4: Dots Challenge (4:22) 5-5: Don't touch the Dots (5:34) 5-6: Minesweeper...? (8:14) 5-7: Minesweeper Challenge...? (10:42) 5-8: Tile Filling but with Dots (11:58) 5-9: Side Order (13:28) 5-10: Saying goodbye to Dots (15:13) Bonus: Grid inside of a Grid
Spoilers So for anyone who didn't figure it out, the rule for the second level was that 1:you had to hit all the marks 2:each mark must be 1 higer or 1 lower than the previous one
I have never felt dumber than watching 5-6 and 5-7. The rules were explained and then watching how quickly he whipped out a solution left me like, "I have never been less intelligent than this moment"
After that '?' level, I am suddenly very glad I didn't decide to play this game myself :D I was completely wrong with my prediction for world 5, but I'll try to guess 6 anyways... I think the shape of your line's going to be important
For one of the meta puzzles (say, Level 2), which dot you begin (say, Left) and which dot you end (say, Down), indicates how it will be used. So if you come across the squares for the corresponding number of dots to the level (Box with 2 Dots), you have to go through it the same way (Left then Down). The first meta puzzles are easier because they build up on each other, but the last ones depend on future puzzles, requiring Tyler to tweak both earlier and later puzzles so they work with each other.
idk if you relised ityet, but each section has a color and there is a color that gives a genral idea of what the Bigger rule is (green was make it to the right shape, dark green was about the number of shapes, orange was about wich shapes in which empty spots, yellow was about the areas themselves)
What's been your favorite section of bonus puzzles so far?
Cool
Nice
Watching you say you know the rules only to be shut down, sometimes before you finish the sentence. 😂
3 days ago wtf. (I know the video was probably unlisted before properly released)
Video: comes out today, Tyler posts a comment on said video 3 days ago.
came as an og bloons viewer, stayed for the puzzle games. You singlehandedly changed my favorite thing to watch
same here tbh
Ditttooo 🤝
Same
same
I went from starting to watch his puzzle games, playing puzzle games,...now I'm friggin watching and constructing sodoku puzzles. Thanks a lot, Tyler
Actually it’s Tyler’s job to figure out how it works and explain it to me because I ain’t got no time for that
17:58
"Thankfully, being stupid, you can forget about it after 30 seconds if you're stupid, so it's nice."
Probably my favorite quote from this "Understand" series yet!
I kinda wanna see an entire game around that last ? Level’s concept/rules
It feels like a time travel paradox puzzle where you need to fix events in a timeline
I really do want to see that sort of game. Needing to plan through a self-fulfilling puzzle through half experimentation and half hard logic.
good news! its ruleset reminds me alot of the game Patrick's Parabox
puzzles games are only getting crazier and weirder with time so in like a year someone will have something like that done lol
5d chess with tine trave and paralel dimensions is like that(in a way) recommend
Struggled for quite some time to figure out the 5-? rule set, but when I had it down the 5-?-6 to 5-?-9 metapuzzle ended up being my favorite puzzle in the game so far, especially since I could do it all with logic instead of experimentation. Though I’m not yet finished the game, so who knows, maybe some of the later ? levels will surprise me.
5-? was the first time I had to pull out notes to start doing all the logic. Enjoyed it a lot, was a good challenge. Later ones are their own challenge
How It works when It begins and ends?
I still don't get it
@@dinamosflams So essentially, the cubes you are seeing represents the level within 5-?. The mini square has a stencil of the way you solved the puzzle room. What is happening is the way you enter the puzzle and complete it has to match the stencil which corresponds to the 5-?-Level you're on. After a while he got to the "Pre-Drawn" stencils. What was happening is that the puzzle that has the 1-cube stencil and the 3-cube stencil means you have to solve THAT puzzle entering at the same spots that those 2 stencils indicate, and end on the same that those 2 stencils indicate.
As he was moving forward, he solved Puzzle 1, which had a 1-cube puzzle on it. He started it a circle and ended on a circle. This matched the stencil on the 1-cube. He then did this for puzzle 3. The next puzzle has a 1-cube stencil and a 3-cube stencil. He had to solve puzzle for the same say puzzle 1 and 3 were solved while also solving for the rule. This created going back to remake puzzles, solving the rule in a different enter-exit circle event horizon, so the later puzzles with stencils of previous puzzles would coorespond to the activity within that puzzle... then the next puzzle would need to adhere to the previous puzzle's ruleset, with an even previousy puzzle's stencil.
Hope that helps.
@@EighteenCharacters "Puzzle" doesn't sound like an English word anymore after reading that.
Really disappointed when "one dot, two dot" wasn't followed by "red dot, blue dot"
ikr
The devs have to care about colorblind people
5-?-6 through 5-?-9 is my favourite set of puzzles in the game; it's such a genius idea
Which puzzle?
@@Tiggy227 Honestly the whole bonus puzzle is cool when you figure out the rule, but 20:16 specifically.
The 4 puzzles are intertwined circularly (the earlier puzzles depend on the future puzzles, but the future puzzles also depend on the past puzzles so there's no clear start or end) so you really have to consider all of them at once to solve it. It's super satisfying to pull off
@@Bad-Sir Yee (it was sorta a joke bc the level has a ? In the name) but I totally agree. I'm too dumb for that shit and so I watch my man's Tyler do it and make it look easy
About six minutes in, I had a sudden craving for Doritos. Anyone else?
I'm so proud that i get the joke
damn I dont get the joke, but i bet once someone says it im gonna feel real stupid :v
@Jaden Dobbs puzzle game from about a year ago. Check it out, good series.
@@cheffbread3708 game called the witness. won't spoil much further though
@@shinymimikyu169 hey, how come you never show up when I want you to?
I’ve been dealing with a lot of anxiety and trouble sleeping from recent life events, but Tyler’s videos always seem to calm me down and bring me level enough to get some rest, thanks for the great content man
Tyler: This is mind sweeper style
My mind: *Dorito Puzzle
Exactly what I thought as well
old title: We're Reaching Levels of Meta Puzzle Thought Impossible
WRLoMPTI. Hmm, we could do better. Impossibly meta puzzle really expresses some serious educational decisions?
@@TlalocTemporal Thank you.
@@TlalocTemporal I'm "Impressed".
I like how most of the difficulty was on it being a normal traditional puzzle than finding out this time
The bonus has probably been the best though with both understanding and difficulty and Uniqueness
Love watching anything that really puts to use Tyler's puzzle solving skills. During the pandemic I started watching sudoku solvers solve complex unique sudokus, and tyler shows similar abilities from what I can see.
This game has some crazy puzzles, thanks for bringing awareness of it to me.
Ended up using notepad and a bit of excel to map out and solve some of the hard ones that come up later
Man, I'm definitely getting this Puzzle for my younger bro lol. Children would hate it but it's seemingly the best puzzle there is to teach them deduction and assumptions in game form
15:15 : we call this a difficulty tweak
Thanks for all of the entertainment and knowledge over the years. 👊🏼
This puzzle seems so amazing. And the simplicity of the design and that there is no text to explain is cool.
you should probably retry level 4-9, I feel like you can do it this time.
2:10 The rule is that you go up or down by 1 pip at each position
something about these videos are so satisfying to me - keep up the great work ! :)
I really feel like this level set is just cosmic express
5-? might be one of the coolest puzzles i’ve seen in any game.
i like how he knows that every section of levels have a specific rule and that the section 5 was wirh numbers but he did not realize how the last one used it
Another amazing video thanks Tyler. Also I have heard you say orthogonal more times than every other time I have heard it
Logical deduction is a very important skill in this game, it saves you a lot of pain trying out solutions when you can just cut them off based on what is and isn’t possible within the puzzle restrictions.
Everybody gangsta until the dorito puzzle re-appears
It seems all the ? Levels are connected to each other so maybe working backwards could be the best way to solving them, either way, I’m glad you do eventually solve it and explain it
I have no clue what was going on with that last puzzle so I was just watching you draw
Absolutely love this game and am looking forward to more videos.
Wait... Omg, 5-6 is just the Doritos from The Witness!
10:42 it's a face, 10:49 such a dapper monocle
*4-9 glares at you from a distance*
What makes it funnier to me is, I think he might have actually had the rule down, but failed to execute it correctly without noticing (and therefore thinking he had the rule wrong).
Your spatial reasoning is top notch!
2:06 I believe it's actually a constant difference of 1
Good evening Tyler, thank you for another great upload!
Anybody else think of Picross when Tyler was doing 5-9?
A lot of World 5 puzzles are just classic puzzles in a minimialist style
I really liked this world! The "counting dots" thing makes it very unique.
5-2 the pattern was that all dots, and you can go eith 1 dot more or less than the last
I hope when the game is completed they give you a list of the rules in every stage
why? when yopu have completed the game you should have already figured out the rules.
@@robinlindgren6429 tyler in some of these levels, like the last few of each section and a meta level or two, manages to either get a vague idea that somehow works or cheeses his way through. i guess this feature would provide some closure
@@galvinn I guess, but the way I see it is: the name of the game is both figuratively and literally 'understand', the goal of the game in my opinion isn't to get checkmarks on the level select, it's literally to understand the levels.
therefore, if you haven't understood it, then you haven't completed it. so even if you get the checkmark by accident, the appropriate thing to do if you want to 'complete' the game is to go back into the same level and experiment until you understand it.
I did that for I think 4 or 5 levels in total that I checkmarked by accident before I understood what the rules were.
I figured every one of them out eventually, with the possible exception of one:
[blank]-9 is a level where I know how to solve every puzzle in the level (and I know every solution to every puzzle) and I have found a theory of the solution that is consistent with every puzzle in the level, but that theory is not simple to express, so I don't think it's the real rule. but that rule is consistent with all data I have available and I have tried my best to simplify it to the simplest that I can, I have even found different ways of expressing the same rule, but all of them have this weird tinge of arbitraryness to them that makes me unable to shake the feeling that that rule would break if I had more examples of the puzzle.
that is my minor purgatory I guess, and such is inductive science; you don't get to know whether you are right. you only get to know whether your theory fits the data.
edit: [blank]-8 is very similar to [blank]-9 but the rule I have found for that one is simple and elegant so I believe that is in fact the intended solution.
@@robinlindgren6429 makes sense. i think my view of this game way limited to the very linear progression of this series, and how tyler never goes back to a previous level (with the exception of 4-9, which he still has yet to finish >:( )
Holy Moly - you know how to win in minesweeper and Wow that last puzzle is hard but relly fun
Aaaand now i've completely lost what Tyler's doing. I am now just here for funny commentary and pretty colors.
Tyler missing 4-9, sad and forgotten
First one of these where I actually got lost near the end. Still a great vid though.
(0:04) 5-1: Intro to Dots
(0:54) 5-2: Easy as 1-2-3
(2:14) 5-3: Up to 9
(2:52) 5-4: Dots Challenge
(4:22) 5-5: Don't touch the Dots
(5:34) 5-6: Minesweeper...?
(8:14) 5-7: Minesweeper Challenge...?
(10:42) 5-8: Tile Filling but with Dots
(11:58) 5-9: Side Order
(13:28) 5-10: Saying goodbye to Dots
(15:13) Bonus: Grid inside of a Grid
"It's kinda like... well, I don't wanna spoil anything.
...
*Witness sounds intensify*
"Minesweeper" < "Triangular cheese flavored chip."
That last puzzle was actually insane
god the meta secret puzzle is goddamn brilliant
Spoilers
So for anyone who didn't figure it out, the rule for the second level was that
1:you had to hit all the marks
2:each mark must be 1 higer or 1 lower than the previous one
I'm still confused on how to succeed/fail that last level?
Nothing is more agitating than than the knowledge that screaming at the screen, in fact, does nothing.
I love all of these bonus puzzles
Brain has left the building.
My brain, clearly not Tyler's.
Damn bro really hit us with the title and thumbnail change
i have no ideia what is happening anymore ... and i love it
Tyler's on a higher wavelength than us.
This is the only game that makes you smarter than you think
I have never felt dumber than watching 5-6 and 5-7. The rules were explained and then watching how quickly he whipped out a solution left me like, "I have never been less intelligent than this moment"
2:10 pretty sure the rule is just that every next dot cell you go through has to either be +1 or -1.
I can follow his logic through most of the puzzles until he got to 5-6, which completely melted my brain
After that '?' level, I am suddenly very glad I didn't decide to play this game myself :D
I was completely wrong with my prediction for world 5, but I'll try to guess 6 anyways... I think the shape of your line's going to be important
10:54 Looks so much like a face.
6:21 I know exactly what game you mean!
Slitherlink
that last one was crazy
It's funny watching this right after watching the whole Witness series, I really want to yell "Speedy Dorito"
The coolest IQ test the humankind has ever seen
I love this game series :)
i still haven't quite figured out the bonus puzzle mechanic but damn it looks fun for a minesweeper(-er?)
This game seemed insane at first but it's actually really god damn cool.
2:00 I think the difference between number of dots needs to be exactly 1
Don't forget 4-9
I couldn't do 5-? so I used this video. It helped a LOT.
Imagine if the game had a level editor
Oh no… Imagine the little timmys
World 5 seems to be easier because its rules involving numbers seem to take it closer to already-established puzzles, like Sokoban for 5-4
I was concerned that we were halfway through the video and Tyler just got to the bonus
sees 5-? in the thumbnail
oh god oh fuck
5:33 *The Dorito Puzzles*
if ykyk
5:54 I smell The Witness white pads
I almost bought this game,,, but not today! Excited to see what ya got tyler! shoutouts to ben for being a great editor :):)
i understood nothing for the meta puzzles. could someone explain
Direction of coming in and going out need to correspond to the line in the box itself
For one of the meta puzzles (say, Level 2), which dot you begin (say, Left) and which dot you end (say, Down), indicates how it will be used.
So if you come across the squares for the corresponding number of dots to the level (Box with 2 Dots), you have to go through it the same way (Left then Down).
The first meta puzzles are easier because they build up on each other, but the last ones depend on future puzzles, requiring Tyler to tweak both earlier and later puzzles so they work with each other.
6:00 Dorito puzzles :)
Me when there are 3 variables and 3 equations I need to find out
that last level difficulty jump was like playing polybridge from level 1-1 to 4-15 wtf
idk if you relised ityet, but each section has a color and there is a color that gives a genral idea of what the Bigger rule is (green was make it to the right shape, dark green was about the number of shapes, orange was about wich shapes in which empty spots, yellow was about the areas themselves)
would be cool to see you play mini motorways
5:51
DORITOS
I have no idea what Tyler was thinking during this question mark stage
(at the beginning)
That was really enjoyable one)
Holy shit that ? section got intense...
It's MY job??? I don't even have a functioning brain let alone the capacity to Understand... . .
Puzzle two was just navigating with plus or minus one on the dots
5-6 is basically slitherlink (without creating a closed loop)
Level 5-6-9 is pretty close to a Slitherlink, which I find interesting.
I want to learn how to pickpocket so I can take people's earbuds knot them and then put them back without them noticing
11:57 nonogram :p
6:18 as if you didnt just spoil minesweeper ;)
What is an orthogonal space?
21:29 so do i
by the way, what's the music used in these Understand videos?