Actually, The Oscars are at least credible in the art. The music scene has been proven to be horseshit for more than three decades. Just ask your hero here who denies Green Day, Nirvana, and GNR's existence.
The fact that Iron Maiden has not even been nominated tells me all I need to know. Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy, Motorhead, should be no-brainers.
Are you saying you want actual bands that played Rock & Roll in there? Good Lord man, next thing you'll be saying is soccer players shouldn't be inducted into the Baseball HOF.
Whenever a Rap and Hip-Hop Hall of Fame is created, I want to see if they'll nominate AC/DC, Judas Priest, and Led Zeppelin and induct them. Anybody see the point I'm trying to make?
The fact that Priest has been bypassed yet again has now confirmed my distaste for the Hall. I will never pay attention to this farse ever again. We need an inductee who is Rock or Metal accept the award then say on mic " Hey at least we are rock n roll".
@Brad D I liked some of Todd’s music & I did vote for him but I think he should go in as a Producer which he was better at and then they could display his recordings along with his Production credentials . Yes we all know Hall is lacking but it seems they have tidied up a little bit in past five years . People are sick of the expanded definition of Rap as rock but I was getting tired of that mentality of a 30s Gospel Singer farts into a Grammaphone and it is scene as an “ early influence “ With the exception of Dick Dale I do think they have gotten most of the 60s movers and shakers in there .
Dag Nabbit please... Todd was prolific, a great songwriter, great purveyor of Philly blue-eyed soul, great singer, several hits, great guitar player, trend-setter... as well as producing incredible albums for others. He’s overqualified.
Steve Girard Media I can tell by your comment that you don’t want to work & just want to sit at home & bang on the computer keyboard all day . ------- well maybe your smart phone all day ! Okay point well taken . I was just thinking of another way to get him in there .
@@dagnabbit6187 No worries... cuz you're very correct... his production credits are great. I just feel that he's a way better musician and musical influence than he was a producer.
@ comikdebris I am a Yank and TREX was ahead of their time for the USA. Still Marc Bolan & Co.'s music was awesome. One of my favorite albums of all time is their self titled one with Ride A White Swan and One Inch Rock.
T Rex is NOT a sympathy vote as Pete said. I thought that was a rather snobbish remark. Marc Bolan was a rock and pop legend and should have made the HOF long ago.
Depeche Mode: Black Celebration Music For The Masses Violator Song Of Faith and Devotion I will argue with anyone (and you don't have to like DM at all) that this string of albums from 86-93 is as good as any band (don't care about genres) has ever produced. You may hate them (or just be indifferent) but that period of their evolution is jaw dropping. All those albums sound different if you have an ear for music. They influenced everyone in that style from Muse to NIN. No one wrote synth pop music like Martin Gore. Now you may love Kraftwerk and yes they are legendary but they were more (to me) a concept than an actual band that would tour and be exciting to see. DM rocks!
@Shane Peterson The "Rock" part of the name is irrelevant. Meaningless. Still, deserving bands should get in - and too many have been snubbed. At least Depeche rightfully got in.
Depeche Mode should had been inducted a long time ago!!! But better late that never! It be cool to if they get Alan Wilder to play in when they do their RnR Hall of Fame performance.
would you include Vince Clark as founding member? like Metallica had bassists Robert Trujillo and Jason Newsted at the ceremony? Speak and Spell was released in my puberty, i was hooked, i saw them in the Metropol in my hometown Berlin (where they produced their 2nd or 3rd album, or both) in an audience of 200 people. It formed my tastes, it brought Human League, Heaven 17 and on a different crossing Joy Division, Echo and the Bunnymen and Gary Numan with it. But then i lost track, apart from the odd song now on the radio i didn´t feel they mattered anymore (to me), music for the masses. And i don´t want to sound elitist, i enjoy a nice stadium concert, especially if Bruce sings, Steve is on guitar and Nicko drums and some Eddie guy floating about. But Mode is not made for that imo. Deservant of an entry in Hall of Fame? although i liked the pure electronic days of them and seperated when they discovered acoustic instruments (more rock´n´rolly) - yes, Johnny Cash picked up on them, how could i disagree ;)
They should have another award show like that. Rap stars are the least that should be in there because they don’t even write their own music. They steal it from other artists such as rock music.
I stopped caring about the RRHOF after RUSH was finally inducted after being snubbed for so long. It was also the last time I watched the ceremony. RIP Neil Peart.
Yeah. R.E.M, U2, Beastie Boys, Guns N Roses, Madonna, John Mellencamp...good artists but they should NEVER have been inducted before Rush and KISS. Never mind Run-DMC for fuck's sake!!
@@guibox3 I totally agree with what you said about Rush but, Kiss is dogshit. Every one of those artists you named should have been in before Kiss. Kiss sold more toys than albums. They knew how to market themselves but their music SUCKS. Kiss is The Monkeys in facepaint
voted for MC5, Todd, NIN, Doobies, I thought one of the requirements was how influential you were, MC5 surely fit this more than the majority of the inductees this year
It's a politically correct move. They think they have to put more black and female artists in, whether or not they have anything to do with rock n roll. We live in an age of dishonesty and lip service.
I actually thought Judas Priest had a shot this year.Influential to a whole genre of music,sold tens of millions,maybe closer to 70 million worldwide .Still around and going strong. Much the same could be said about Pat Benatar. Like someone else said in a comment, I'm pissed at myself for caring about the voting for the so called RRHOF.
Totally agree. The nominee list this year looked like one I could finally care about. I voted practically every day, primarily for Priest, Pat Benatar, Doobies, but also Thin Lizzy and Todd Rundgren or Motorhead. Happy for the Doobies for sure, but the fact that Priest and Pat Benatar in particular didn't get in is a snub that sinks to the level of disgusting.
Imo Trouble should be in the HOF. Along with Maiden, Mercyful Fate, Slayer, Celtic Frost, Venom, Bathory & Megadeth. The bands who started out in the early 80's that were the ones to shape Heavy Metal & widen the gates for future generations!!!!!!!!
@@ghastlybat107 Nice of you to say about Trouble, although we both know there is no chance for that. Maiden,Slayer and Megadeth may have a chance, but not for a lot of years.The way things have been going, maybe no chance.
Amen brother I voted every day and had fun doing it. I thought I was being part of this cool thing. Disappointment this morning. No Priest are you kidding me. Let alone no Pat Benatar. She may be the most deserving. I'll tell you this much I won't play Their game next year
For the record: Miles Davis was inducted in 2006 and a number of Blues artists including Robert Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, Ledbelly, and Willie Dixon have been inducted.
The Rock And Roll Hall of Fame, is the most pointless pile of crap ever....As Pete Said Whitney and B.I.G are not Rock and Roll. To Overlook Judas Priest, Motorhead and Thin Lizzy. proves how meaningless this thing is. I have Already said Previously that in England we don't even pay any attention to it. 14.35 of Honesty from Pete ..Totally in full Agreement with Him on This.
Well said Pete, an absolute joke. I wrote this about it: Whitney Houston and The Notorious B.I.G make it into the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame; over Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy and Motörhead I have no words 🤣 I'll always remember Whitney's huge contribution to rock and roll, much more than Thin Lizzy's vintage dual-guitar sound, the invention of speed metal with Motörhead, and the excellent string of albums from 1976-1980 from Judas Priest. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame my backside 😳
I've been sending this video everywhere that I can. I see you have over 10,000 views and I bet you're going to have more coming each day. Yours is the greatest video I have seen out there so I'm showing it to people on the Pat Benatar site and posted it to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Facebook my page everything that I can because I think what you said is very important and relevant. Thank you Pete. Appreciate everything you do.
I feel like our whole society is just trying to please everyone - all the time - everywhere. I can't say I listen to that much rap but I don't hate it. I don't really see the point in hating music but having a Rock and Hall of Fame and just throwing in who ever and don't include obvious names of the main genre? It feels like any modern action movie where they have a weak story line and just throw in whatever they can think of and hope it turns into a good movie. Seen the last Star Wars movie? Basically just 75 ideas thrown together without much thought. Quick scenes and everything happens instead of something particular and smart. Seems a bit like Rock And Roll Hall of Fame. Men, women, old, young and any genre must be included. The actual inpact on rock music doesn't matter as long as anyone can watch the show and feel someone appeals to them. I wonder how much Notorious BIG would have cared about this if he been alive? Probably just laugh it off and be thankful for some extra cash. It might be true that RAP is a much bigger industry than rock now.. But how many rappers look or care about Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
It defeats the purpose of having a rock hall of fame if they put in rappers. Just more blatant reasons as to why people don't take any of this seriously.
@Craig Black ... Jeff Beck considers McLaughlin to be " the best in the business". Check out The Mahavishnu Orchestra for classic John McLaughlin ( 'The Meeting of The Spirits' and 'Lila's Dance' etc) .
The fan vote means nothing. I've heard Eddie trunk about about that. Judas priest should have got in they've been around about as long as The Doobie Brothers.
@Perfect Stranger why am I a joke when I'm stating the obvious. Yes this whole award is a joke inducting dork like Madonna or NWA, Snoop Dogg. See that's my point, MAKE YOUR OWN MUSIC HALL OF FAME. At point this award should be call music Hall of Fame cuz they a joke.
Pete, you nailed it. I read the inductees this morning and just hung my head. I love your point about Mile Davis. i'm done with this, no way i'm watching it.
Agree with all your comments, Pete. Personally, I've gotten tired of caring about this. At the very least, this institution has made the term "rock 'n' roll" virtually meaningless.
Steve Seim I think people are missing the origin of how the rock and roll hall of fame came to be. It’s purpose is to recognize ones who contributed to the influence and significance to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. The first induction in 1986 mainly consisted of r&b singers. That style of music helped to shape and develop rock and roll. Whitney may not be the traditional “rock and roll” artist but she was an r&b singer and it helped shape rock and roll. As far as biggie smalls and rap he definitely lived that rock and roll lifestyle. His music had heavy influence.
Pete, do you have a rant video about the artists and bands that have been inducted into the Rock"n'roll Hall of Fame that don't beong in there? If you haven't made one, maybe you should. :)
Whitney Houston belongs in the same hall that houses Celine Dion and Barbara Streisand, not the RnRHOF. Todd Rundgren, The Guess Who, Thin Lizzy, J.Geils Band, Priest, UFO, Robin Trower, Blue Oyster Cult, Badfinger, Jethro Tull, Motorhead, King Crimson, Ten Years After, Savoy Brown, Free, Bad Company, etc. should all be in already. The Hall has become like the the Grammys. They celebrate shit.
@Robert Saul Well there are people in there that deserve to be in there. Marc Bolan of Trex IMHO was the most talented Nominee and I am glad Trex will be in there but you are right. The best quote I read about the Hall was from a You Tuber " The RocknRoll Hall of Fame was a good thing when it started but the suits got a hold of it and strangled it in its crib . " . more like the 30 plus adult who kidnaps the 7 year old and enforces his will on the youngster . It is known that meglomaniac Jann Wenner and hack writer Dave Marsh were 2 of the biggest assholes on that board but now I wonder if there is a dark web thing behind this. I actually fault the nominating process over the inclusion process. That is the bigger bete noir.
*H of F: Where's The BLUES??* Robert Johnson Willie Dixon (Led Zeppelin) Buddy Guy (Gary Moore) *H of F: Where's Reggae??* Bob Marley (Eric Clapton) Peter Tosh Third World (Stevie Wonder)
Chuck Stemm TRUTH! However, the case for Depeche could be made regardless of Kraftwerk. Bands that Depeche influenced are already in the Rock Hall. So yeah, it’s weird. Without Depeche there wouldn’t be NIN but here we are.
Iron Maiden has had an incalculable influence on metal, they still fill arenas and stadiums worldwide, and are similar to Rush with a large and rabid fan base who love complex and thought provoking music. The fact they have not gotten a sniff is all you need to know about the RR (Rolling Stone Magazine) Sham Hall of Shame. I like the way the guys from Rush handled it - they didn't care, but knew many of the fans did and they embraced it. I also love how they wait until people start dying to honor a deserving band. I think about Yes, who was another no-brainer. Of course Chris Squire wasn't there to enjoy the moment.
simgorm Absolutely! Depeche Mode are just a 2nd rate pop group and nothing to do with rock whatsoever. Same goes for Whitney. This is just a music hall of fame. I think the best thing true rockers can do is totally disregard it and leave it to the pop groups and rappers.
D T you have no idea what Depeche Mode. They are probably the singlehandedly most influential band when it comes to synth music, and if you forget their albums Songs of Faith and Devotion and Ultra, then you forget the their influence on rock. Depeche Mode deserved to be in the Rock and Role Hall of Fame years ago, I can understand other artists like Whitney Houston and b.i.g but Depeche Mode deserves to be inducted.
@@dt6949 lol @ Depeche Mode being second rate. You really have no idea what you're talking about. And stop being hung up on the name "Rock n Roll". It's a MUSIC Hall of Fame.
DT, look up and watch a Depeche Mode concert. They are in their 50’s and they still put on an incredible rock show. Their song writing is amazing and their songs take you on an emotional journey. They still put out great music and sell out concerts world wide. On they last tour, they sold out the Hollywood Bowl for four nights. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think they are the first musical act to sell out the Bowl that many times.
runawayuniverse Couldn’t give a s**t what you think. You are completely wrong if you are trying to suggest they are a rock band! Your views require no further comment from me. And if you had taken the time to read my comment you’d see that a music hall of fame is exactly what I called it!
Pete...your comments are spot on... Have the same opinions overall! The RNR Hall Of Fame should be for Rock. It would be great for so many deserving artists to be inducted.
Thank you Pete! You hit the nail on the head about the Rock and Roll Hall of Shame and it being all about the definitely will not be watching. I still love your Rock Shrine of Excellence idea and it being in New York. We fans of REAL music should get it going. Take care.
Yes, they are just as "rock and roll" as Biggie Smalls! I'm thinking we've finally discovered the REAL reason Iron Maiden hasn't been inducted yet.... It's because they aren't "rock and roll", like Reba McIntyre and Biggie! We'll just have to patiently wait for the Gangster Rap HOF to open up, so that bands like Iron Maiden can FINALLY be put into a HOF that accurately represents their genre!!
Amen, Pete. I couldn't agree more. Maybe they should call it the What Have You Done For Me Lately Hall of Fame. I could make a case for the Stones and Queen to be in the R&B Hall of Fame. The songs Miss You, Another One Bites The Dust and Emotional Rescue.
Eddie Trunk has explained at length just how minuscule the voting actually is. Hundreds of musicians, executives, historians, and esteemed music journalists each have 5 votes to use on the pool of nominees. Winning the fan vote only gets you ONE vote. It doesn't matter how many millions of people voted for a certain act. If you win the fan vote, it online counts as ONE extra vote on your ballot.
Miles Davis is still there, Pete. 1987. But generally, I totally agree with the context of this video. Look at this list of people that aren't there: Alan Parsons Bachman Turner Overdrive Dixie Dregs Emerson Lake and Palmer Faith No More Focus Gentle Giant Grandfunk Railroad Iron Maiden Jethro Tull Jimi Hendrix Joe Satriani Judas Priest Kansas King Crimson Living Colour Marillion Nazareth Procol Harum Queensryche Rainbow Renaissance Scorpions Steve Vai Stray Cats Supertramp Sweet Tears for Fears Triumvirat Uriah Heep Yngwie Malmsteen
I found this info, not sure if this is 100% accurate but makes sense with what you are saying at the end: "The top five vote-getters in the Fan Vote comprise one “fan ballot,” which is counted as just one among a thousand other ballots. Those ballots are filled out by members of the actual voting body, which includes music journalists and other industry insiders, along with every living person who’s been inducted. So, more than 8 million fans cast their votes online under the impression that they’re having their voice heard, but really it’s just for about one-tenth of one percent of the total vote."
Actually I think they DO care it's why Neil Peart admitted in his speech that it really is a big deal to them! And why Geddy thanked their devoted fan base for making it happen.
i am Rock'nRoll & Heavy Metal fan , but Frankly i'm happy for Depeche Mode they are one of the pioneers of new wave & Electronic rock...they have a career of almost 40 years and their albums from "Black Celebration" to "Songs of Faith and Devotion" are great albums and very influential on many musicians of all genres...even Trent Reznor ( nine inch nails) admits their influence on his music !!
@@thelasthandbook6704 It holds up for me and not just for nostalgic value, but that the actors manage to deliver the dialogue such as to render the whole thing seamless, catchphrases notwithstanding.
Agreed with you totally, Pete! Whitney and Notorious B.I.G. do not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They should just change the name to the Music Hall of Fame if they are going to continue this trend. One artist you didn't mention in your Rant is one that definitely should have been in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame years ago, and that is Todd Rundgren, not only an incredible influence on rock music from his Nazz days forward, but also influential as a producer of a lot of great rock and roll records.
Hip hop is shaped from r&b. R&b helped shape rock and roll. I think a lot of you don’t know the history as to how the genre of rock and roll was created and the original purpose of why the rock and roll hall of fame even exists. If you look at the first induction ceremony they consisted of a lot of r&b singers. Rock and roll has versatile beginnings.
Pete, what T.REX albums do you own? I'd be happy to send you a compilation of the best of what you don't have/know. They have a substantial list of weighty artists who love them or have been influenced by them (U2, Foo Fighters, Elton John, The Ramones, The WHO's Pete Townshend, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr (as well as Ringo's son Zak Starkey who plays drums for the who now but he says he's more of a guitar player and that he learned guitar because of Marc Bolan), Oasis, REM, Joan Jett, Def Leppard, Alice Cooper, David Bowie..etc. In any case, I will, as I said, happily send you a CD compilation of whatever you dont already have or know of T.REX.
Agree 100 per cent. Two of the most talented and deserving snubs who should have been in 20 years ago are Paul Rodgers in both Free and Bad Company and Todd Rundgren.
Excellent rant Pete. I'm sick of the hall screwing around with the bands of our youth, if they get chosen into the hall in the next 10 years or so, most of the guys or gals will be in their late 70's or mid to late 60's. It's not worth it, the hof has just lost all sight of what real music is. Bands I would like to see in the next 10 years: Jethro Tull, J.Geils Band, Kansas, Pat Benatar, King Crimson, ELP, Thin Lizzy, UFO, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Jeff Lynne for production, Blue Oyster Cult, Camel, Caravan, the Guess Who, BTO and Grand Funk. Forget it none will be chosen!
@@bunnyplush I think that I read somewhere that Jan Wenner(Rolling Stone Mag./Exec.Board for RRHOF) said that Styx will never get in the RRHOF.Have no idea what his vendetta is with them.
…..one of the smartest pieces of advice I have ever received when questioning just what the hell is going on in this world today...…."follow the money". Greed will be the undoing of us all and the evidence of this is everywhere!!! Never seen a u haul behind a hearse.
I live, in Ohio and really, only the people who live, in and around Cleveland, consider the R&R HoF relevant because of tourism. Only 2 R&R bands made it this time. Such a sad joke. At least Ohio has the NFL HoF... Edit: Spellcheck error.
I couldn't agree more. This so called "Hall Of Fame" is a joke and holds no relevance whatsoever. When they initially announced they were creating it oh so many years ago I thought it was a cool idea and thought I'd one day plan a vacation around visiting it but, honestly, I wouldn't go out of my way to go there now.
I agree totally with your comment on the casual Lizzy fan. An example why, I went to a Lizzy tribute act about 10 years ago and they give the crowd a choice for the encore. They offered Whisky in the Jar or Black Rose, and the twats chose Whisky. Never went to watch the band again.
Yup. Saw Miles Davis at the Front Row theatre in 1981 and his guitarist-Michael Stern-was ABSOLUTELY a brilliant ROCK guitarist. Of course Davis always surrounded himself with the best musicians. Almost all went on to become legends in their own right. Your analysis is spot on. I loved Miles but he was a JAZZ master! RTHOF is a sham.
I certainly think that Soundgarden and Motörhead were OBVIOUS SNUBS this year.. Not to mention Judas Priest; I could make a convincing argument for them. I agree with you about The Doobie Brothers, I'm certainly glad they're in.. Whitney Houston and The Notorious B.I.G are NOT ROCK !!!! So, I'm right there with you; I won't be watching it either. You've made several good points. Rest in Peace Chris Cornell AND Lemmy 🤘🤘🤘
Your points about Thin Lizzy and Motorhead really hit home. The casual fans know them for 1 or 2 songs, and have no idea just how fucking hard they rocked.
Rock and roll (often written as rock & roll, rock 'n' roll, or rock 'n roll) is a genre of popular music that originated and evolved in the United States during the late 1940s and early 1950s from musical styles such as **gospel**, jump blues, jazz, boogie woogie, **rhythm and blues**, and country music. So yes **Whitney** belongs in there. This is not the "Rock" hall of fame, it's the "Rock and roll" hall of fame. They have been inducting black soul artists ever since the first year.
@@seaoftranquilityprog Disagree. For the same reason I don't like Madonna or Grandmaster Flash being in. He's not rock n roll. I'm a jazz fusion guy too, but I don't want to selectively accept genre blurring when it suits me. Honestly, if you look at the all time list of inductees, Miles induction in 2006 may have opened the floodgates for non-rockers, unfortunately. It's said to have been a highly corrupt, influence job too, spurred on by Quincy Jones .
@@georgelamie7001 My point is he's more deserving than a lot of the lame ones we've been mentioning. In theory though, yes, jazz, rap, country, soul, etc...no go
@@ShanghaiRooster Not sure I'd say plenty. There are def. some that aren't pure rockers, but they tend to have some tenuous connection to the genre, or are offshoots, like Buddy Guy, Prince, The Clash, Michael Jackson. It was post-Miles that we started getting rappers and dance music on the regular.
The R n R hall of fame is like the Oscars, No credibility at all
And Grammies as well.
You were right. Entertainment Tonight focused on Whitney Houston and Notorious B.I.G. and rounded the segment off with the remaining inductees.
Actually, The Oscars are at least credible in the art. The music scene has been proven to be horseshit for more than three decades. Just ask your hero here who denies Green Day, Nirvana, and GNR's existence.
I think it' MUCH worse than the Oscar.
@@nool1236 the only reasons those two were selected were political correctness and TV Ratings
The fact that Iron Maiden has not even been nominated tells me all I need to know. Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy, Motorhead, should be no-brainers.
You nailed it!!!
Stormy wins the day..
True all legendary rock/metal bands.
Are you saying you want actual bands that played Rock & Roll in there? Good Lord man, next thing you'll be saying is soccer players shouldn't be inducted into the Baseball HOF.
In addition to the great hard rock metal acts mentioned, also would add: Scorpions, Accept, and Yngwie J. Malmsteen.
Whenever a Rap and Hip-Hop Hall of Fame is created, I want to see if they'll nominate AC/DC, Judas Priest, and Led Zeppelin and induct them. Anybody see the point I'm trying to make?
They'll never be able to afford it. They spend all their money on shoes and white women
@@troycleek3985 im black and i thought that was true and funny.Rock has been sampled by so many rap artists they should be in a hip hop hall of fame
are you drunk?? they'd never do it
@@merckx155 Of course they'll never do that. I was trying to make a point while being sarcastic.
So now it's going to be a racial thing. Who am I kidding it's always a racial thing
If Whitney Houston is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Frank Sinatra should have been inducted.
Scott McGregor seems fair
Why not Mozart, Bach, Beethoven?
So much of their bogus "hall of fame" has gone political. What a damn joke!
They can take their Shitney POOston's and Notorious P.I.G.'s and stick 'em where the sun don't shine
@@peace__777 not racist by any chance
The fact that Priest has been bypassed yet again has now confirmed my distaste for the Hall. I will never pay attention to this farse ever again. We need an inductee who is Rock or Metal accept the award then say on mic " Hey at least we are rock n roll".
Priest being ignored again this year is a mortal sin!
If you are a Priest fan, read Ritchie Faulkner's rant on the RRHOF. Not only a phenomenal guitarist, but summed up our feelings perfectly!
I agree totally this is bullshit big and Whitney what a JOKE!!!
If NIN gets in so the hell should Ministry.....if it wasn't for Ministry, there would be no NIN
Todd Rundgren is one of the most influential artists and producers of the last half century. Denied twice now.
It's a crime
@Brad D I liked some of Todd’s music & I did vote for him but I think he should go in as a Producer which he was better at and then they could display his recordings along with his Production credentials . Yes we all know Hall is lacking but it seems they have tidied up a little bit in past five years . People are sick of the expanded definition of Rap as rock but I was getting tired of that mentality of a 30s Gospel Singer farts into a Grammaphone and it is scene as an “ early influence “ With the exception of Dick Dale I do think they have gotten most of the 60s movers and shakers in there .
Dag Nabbit please... Todd was prolific, a great songwriter, great purveyor of Philly blue-eyed soul, great singer, several hits, great guitar player, trend-setter... as well as producing incredible albums for others.
He’s overqualified.
Steve Girard Media I can tell by your comment that you don’t want to work & just want to sit at home & bang on the computer keyboard all day . ------- well maybe your smart phone all day ! Okay point well taken . I was just thinking of another way to get him in there .
@@dagnabbit6187 No worries... cuz you're very correct... his production credits are great. I just feel that he's a way better musician and musical influence than he was a producer.
T Rex was HUGELY influential in Britain during the 70s They launched the Glam movement
@ comikdebris I am a Yank and TREX was ahead of their time for the USA. Still Marc Bolan & Co.'s music was awesome. One of my favorite albums of all time is their self titled one with Ride A White Swan and One Inch Rock.
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If anyone is on the fence, listen to jeepster and go from there..
T Rex is NOT a sympathy vote as Pete said. I thought that was a rather snobbish remark. Marc Bolan was a rock and pop legend and should have made the HOF long ago.
@@steverogers2635 Who's remark are u referring to?
Depeche Mode:
Black Celebration
Music For The Masses
Violator
Song Of Faith and Devotion
I will argue with anyone (and you don't have to like DM at all) that this string of albums from 86-93 is as good as any band (don't care about genres) has ever produced. You may hate them (or just be indifferent) but that period of their evolution is jaw dropping. All those albums sound different if you have an ear for music. They influenced everyone in that style from Muse to NIN. No one wrote synth pop music like Martin Gore. Now you may love Kraftwerk and yes they are legendary but they were more (to me) a concept than an actual band that would tour and be exciting to see. DM rocks!
@Shane Peterson The "Rock" part of the name is irrelevant. Meaningless. Still, deserving bands should get in - and too many have been snubbed. At least Depeche rightfully got in.
I'd add Some Great Reward to that list.
Depeche Mode should had been inducted a long time ago!!! But better late that never! It be cool to if they get Alan Wilder to play in when they do their RnR Hall of Fame performance.
The lack of Ultra in that list is preposterous.
would you include Vince Clark as founding member? like Metallica had bassists Robert Trujillo and Jason Newsted at the ceremony?
Speak and Spell was released in my puberty, i was hooked, i saw them in the Metropol in my hometown Berlin (where they produced their 2nd or 3rd album, or both) in an audience of 200 people. It formed my tastes, it brought Human League, Heaven 17 and on a different crossing Joy Division, Echo and the Bunnymen and Gary Numan with it.
But then i lost track, apart from the odd song now on the radio i didn´t feel they mattered anymore (to me), music for the masses.
And i don´t want to sound elitist, i enjoy a nice stadium concert, especially if Bruce sings, Steve is on guitar and Nicko drums and some Eddie guy floating about. But Mode is not made for that imo.
Deservant of an entry in Hall of Fame? although i liked the pure electronic days of them and seperated when they discovered acoustic instruments (more rock´n´rolly) - yes, Johnny Cash picked up on them, how could i disagree ;)
The R n R hall of fame should be rename "The Music Industry Hall of Fame"
They should have another award show like that. Rap stars are the least that should be in there because they don’t even write their own music. They steal it from other artists such as rock music.
There should be.a rap, pop & maybe a country hall of fame
The Rolling Stone Magazine Music Hall of Fame
@@SixxQueen91 Put down the mic and actually play a fricken instrument!
@@JohnSmith-kz8yo R.S. is as sold out as it gets.
I stopped caring about the RRHOF after RUSH was finally inducted after being snubbed for so long. It was also the last time I watched the ceremony. RIP Neil Peart.
Yeah. R.E.M, U2, Beastie Boys, Guns N Roses, Madonna, John Mellencamp...good artists but they should NEVER have been inducted before Rush and KISS. Never mind Run-DMC for fuck's sake!!
@@guibox3 I totally agree with what you said about Rush but, Kiss is dogshit. Every one of those artists you named should have been in before Kiss. Kiss sold more toys than albums. They knew how to market themselves but their music SUCKS. Kiss is The Monkeys in facepaint
I'm a metalhead. But, Depeche Mode is my all time favorite band and I'm glad they're in the HOF. Even though RNRHOF is a little silly now.
A lot of metal bands site them as an influence.
I voted for Thin Lizzy, Motörhead, MC5, Todd Rundgren, and Kraftwerk. None of whom were inducted..
I only voted Thin Lizzy because I wanted them over all of them.
I voted Motorhead
voted for MC5, Todd, NIN, Doobies, I thought one of the requirements was how influential you were, MC5 surely fit this more than the majority of the inductees this year
@@merckx155 Yet they were dead last in the fan vote. Wonder if they did any better on the other ballots.
I voted almost exactly the same, except I voted for Pat Benatar & alternated between Priest, Lizzy & Motorhead.
Leave out Thin Lizzy, Motorhead, and Judas Priest for Whitney Houston and a rap artist
You mean a (c)rap artist?
Don't forget Rundgren!
Such a fucking joke. Those bands should’ve been in years ago! Why do they even call it “Rock n Roll Hall of Fame”
It's a politically correct move. They think they have to put more black and female artists in, whether or not they have anything to do with rock n roll. We live in an age of dishonesty and lip service.
Doc Deens Whitney isn’t just there for diversity. She isn’t rock but she’s definitely talented
A joke of the highest degree. I’m pissed at myself for even caring.
I generally don't care but this year had great nominees.
I stopped caring about rrhof back in 8th grade
Ditto
Same here. I'm not going to vote from next year onwards. It's just bloody useless.
@@highwaystar7145 ...especially when a large percentage of the nominees are garbage
I actually thought Judas Priest had a shot this year.Influential to a whole genre of music,sold tens of millions,maybe closer to 70 million worldwide .Still around and going strong. Much the same could be said about Pat Benatar. Like someone else said in a comment, I'm pissed at myself for caring about the voting for the so called RRHOF.
Pat Benetar, arguably the greatest female rock singer ever, doesn't get in yet Whitney Houston is going in........smh
Totally agree. The nominee list this year looked like one I could finally care about. I voted practically every day, primarily for Priest, Pat Benatar, Doobies, but also Thin Lizzy and Todd Rundgren or Motorhead. Happy for the Doobies for sure, but the fact that Priest and Pat Benatar in particular didn't get in is a snub that sinks to the level of disgusting.
Imo Trouble should be in the HOF. Along with Maiden, Mercyful Fate, Slayer, Celtic Frost, Venom, Bathory & Megadeth. The bands who started out in the early 80's that were the ones to shape Heavy Metal & widen the gates for future generations!!!!!!!!
@@ghastlybat107 Nice of you to say about Trouble, although we both know there is no chance for that. Maiden,Slayer and Megadeth may have a chance, but not for a lot of years.The way things have been going, maybe no chance.
@@christopherharris3229 Benatar would be in if she overdosed in the bathtub too(poor thing)..
Amen brother
I voted every day and had fun doing it.
I thought I was being part of this
cool thing.
Disappointment this morning.
No Priest are you kidding me.
Let alone no Pat Benatar.
She may be the most deserving.
I'll tell you this much I won't play
Their game next year
Pete, I couldn't agree with you more. The Rock n roll Hall of Fame is a complete joke!
I'm afraid UFO and Michael Schenker will never get noticed.
Michael who?
Agreed, same goes for Thin Lizzy
Maiden and Judas aren't there! Thin Lizzy and UFO have zero chance...
UFO has a great body of work. . But we all know the Hall is a total waste of space. No Priest No Lizzy, No Kansas. . Blah
I think those people are making a joke of his last name it my mean something else if you know what I mean.
For the record: Miles Davis was inducted in 2006 and a number of Blues artists including Robert Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, Ledbelly, and Willie Dixon have been inducted.
Also country music legends Hank Williams, Jimmy Rogers, and Bill Monroe (as well as a few others) have all been inducted.
The Rock And Roll Hall of Fame, is the most pointless pile of crap ever....As Pete Said Whitney and B.I.G are not Rock and Roll. To Overlook Judas Priest, Motorhead and Thin Lizzy. proves how meaningless this thing is. I have Already said Previously that in England we don't even pay any attention to it. 14.35 of Honesty from Pete ..Totally in full Agreement with Him on This.
Well said Pete, an absolute joke. I wrote this about it:
Whitney Houston and The Notorious B.I.G make it into the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame; over Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy and Motörhead
I have no words 🤣
I'll always remember Whitney's huge contribution to rock and roll, much more than Thin Lizzy's vintage dual-guitar sound, the invention of speed metal with Motörhead, and the excellent string of albums from 1976-1980 from Judas Priest.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame my backside 😳
I'm going to borrow your quote.
@@hanksta34 Feel free ;)
I've been sending this video everywhere that I can. I see you have over 10,000 views and I bet you're going to have more coming each day. Yours is the greatest video I have seen out there so I'm showing it to people on the Pat Benatar site and posted it to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Facebook my page everything that I can because I think what you said is very important and relevant. Thank you Pete. Appreciate everything you do.
Great talk, and I am especially glad that you brought up Thin Lizzy. That band is fundamental knowledge for anyone who wants to play in a band.
I feel like our whole society is just trying to please everyone - all the time - everywhere. I can't say I listen to that much rap but I don't hate it. I don't really see the point in hating music but having a Rock and Hall of Fame and just throwing in who ever and don't include obvious names of the main genre? It feels like any modern action movie where they have a weak story line and just throw in whatever they can think of and hope it turns into a good movie. Seen the last Star Wars movie? Basically just 75 ideas thrown together without much thought. Quick scenes and everything happens instead of something particular and smart. Seems a bit like Rock And Roll Hall of Fame. Men, women, old, young and any genre must be included. The actual inpact on rock music doesn't matter as long as anyone can watch the show and feel someone appeals to them. I wonder how much Notorious BIG would have cared about this if he been alive? Probably just laugh it off and be thankful for some extra cash. It might be true that RAP is a much bigger industry than rock now.. But how many rappers look or care about Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
It defeats the purpose of having a rock hall of fame if they put in rappers. Just more blatant reasons as to why people don't take any of this seriously.
Have a rap and hip hop hall of fame
Whaddaya expect-it's in cleveland!?! They paid the most to get it, gave the land, etc.
Those clowns wouldn't even know who John McLaughlin is !
He is only one of the best guitarist who ever lived!
@@jamesgingrich3837 McLaughlin and Holdsworth.........and then everybody else.
I am not a clown so tell me who John McLaughlin is and I will look into him.
@Craig Black ... Jeff Beck considers McLaughlin to be " the best in the business". Check out The Mahavishnu Orchestra for classic John McLaughlin ( 'The Meeting of The Spirits' and 'Lila's Dance' etc) .
I'm sure they do. I'm sure that when they inducted Miles Davis, they took into account that he made Bitches Brew.
Judas Priest , thin Lizzy , Motörhead and soundgarden should of gotten in , good video though I see all your points
The fan vote means nothing.
I've heard Eddie trunk about about that.
Judas priest should have got in they've been around about as long as The Doobie Brothers.
@Marcus Guzman his ballot this year was: pat benetar, priest, Motorhead, T Rex, Thin Lizzy.
No way rap should be in the rock n roll shame 😡😡
It's like desecrating a church
The ghetto won.
@Anant Raman make your own award then you stupid crap fan. ROCK AND ROLL IS FOR ROCK not Pop or Rap dorks.
Liver Bird ironically, you sound like a dork
@Perfect Stranger why am I a joke when I'm stating the obvious. Yes this whole award is a joke inducting dork like Madonna or NWA, Snoop Dogg. See that's my point, MAKE YOUR OWN MUSIC HALL OF FAME. At point this award should be call music Hall of Fame cuz they a joke.
T. Rex were long overdue. Marc Bolan and his band, along with producer Tony Visconti, introduced a new Rock n Roll sound for the 1970’s.
Until Todd Rundgren's in there, it's just a joke to me.
I can't believe he isn't in!
lonegroover
for me it's NRBQ!
lonegroover if he gets in his induction speech should just be , "hello it's me" then walk off
@@AlwaysIrishINC Bahahaha that didn't half make me laugh, exactly though!
lonegroover Can't believe it. That's a disgrace. For his producing alone. Todd is god.
I just want to know when Pele is going to be inducted into the Baseball HOF?
jamie t You said it all!!! Fantastic!!! (From a Brazilian born in Santos and a strong supporter of Santos FC)
That's Gold !
Ok now that’s funny
I don't get these fan voting, what's the point if high scoring Soundgarden and Judas Priest won't get inducted.
They don't deserve to be in, that's why.
Mister LuLu Wrong
Or Pat Benatar. She was high up there in the fan voting as well.
Well said all the Lizzy votes and Benatar votes everyday for nada!!!!
Pete, you nailed it. I read the inductees this morning and just hung my head. I love your point about Mile Davis. i'm done with this, no way i'm watching it.
Miles got inducted in 2006 with Sabbath and Skynyrd! I also think the Sex Pistols got in if I'm not mistaken!
In addition to rock, I also love hip hop, but I think it should have its own hall of fame. R&B too.
Agree with all your comments, Pete. Personally, I've gotten tired of caring about this. At the very least, this institution has made the term "rock 'n' roll" virtually meaningless.
Steve Seim I think people are missing the origin of how the rock and roll hall of fame came to be. It’s purpose is to recognize ones who contributed to the influence and significance to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. The first induction in 1986 mainly consisted of r&b singers. That style of music helped to shape and develop rock and roll. Whitney may not be the traditional “rock and roll” artist but she was an r&b singer and it helped shape rock and roll. As far as biggie smalls and rap he definitely lived that rock and roll lifestyle. His music had heavy influence.
Pete, do you have a rant video about the artists and bands that have been inducted into the Rock"n'roll Hall of Fame that don't beong in there?
If you haven't made one, maybe you should. :)
The Rock Roll Hall Of Shame is a disgrace I agree
Whitney Houston belongs in the same hall that houses Celine Dion and Barbara Streisand, not the RnRHOF. Todd Rundgren, The Guess Who, Thin Lizzy, J.Geils Band, Priest, UFO, Robin Trower, Blue Oyster Cult, Badfinger, Jethro Tull, Motorhead, King Crimson, Ten Years After, Savoy Brown, Free, Bad Company, etc. should all be in already. The Hall has become like the the Grammys. They celebrate shit.
@Robert Saul Well there are people in there that deserve to be in there. Marc Bolan of Trex IMHO was the most talented Nominee and I am glad Trex will be in there but you are right. The best quote I read about the Hall was from a You Tuber " The RocknRoll Hall of Fame was a good thing when it started but the suits got a hold of it and strangled it in its crib . " . more like the 30 plus adult who kidnaps the 7 year old and enforces his will on the youngster . It is known that meglomaniac Jann Wenner and hack writer Dave Marsh were 2 of the biggest assholes on that board but now I wonder if there is a dark web thing behind this. I actually fault the nominating process over the inclusion process. That is the bigger bete noir.
@@dagnabbit6187 Agree about TRex. Should have been in years ago.
*H of F: Where's The BLUES??*
Robert Johnson
Willie Dixon (Led Zeppelin)
Buddy Guy (Gary Moore)
*H of F: Where's Reggae??*
Bob Marley (Eric Clapton)
Peter Tosh
Third World (Stevie Wonder)
Like your point but all the blues guys you mentioned are in and I know Bob Marley is in.
Johnny Winter
@@mikewestfall827 absolutelly...and Rory Gallagher.
Buddy Guy is in the hall.
Is Big Mama Thornton in the Hall? The ORIGINAL artist of “Hound Dog” and it’s more raunchier....
Two great albums from T. Rex: Electric Warrior and The Slider. That's about it for this year.
T. Rex Tanks isn't bad but electric warrior is better so is slider.
There’s no NIN or Depeche Mode without Kraftwerk
None of the 3 belong in there.
There would have been no Styx with Kraftwerk. That's about it.
Kraftwerk aren't in yet?! That's a major oversight.
and both bands will agree with you.
Chuck Stemm TRUTH! However, the case for Depeche could be made regardless of Kraftwerk. Bands that Depeche influenced are already in the Rock Hall. So yeah, it’s weird. Without Depeche there wouldn’t be NIN but here we are.
My school certificate I got when I was 5 has more credibility than the RORHOF!
Perfect!!
Build a wing for each Rock and Roll decade, Then put EVERY single recording artist in.
That should end the angst, bitter hatred, and apathy!!
CHARLES NOLAN Participation trophies for everyone!
Iron Maiden has had an incalculable influence on metal, they still fill arenas and stadiums worldwide, and are similar to Rush with a large and rabid fan base who love complex and thought provoking music. The fact they have not gotten a sniff is all you need to know about the RR (Rolling Stone Magazine) Sham Hall of Shame. I like the way the guys from Rush handled it - they didn't care, but knew many of the fans did and they embraced it. I also love how they wait until people start dying to honor a deserving band. I think about Yes, who was another no-brainer. Of course Chris Squire wasn't there to enjoy the moment.
I'm in the UK, 57 years old, Depeche Mode are not Rock 'n' Roll, Whitney Houston no and rap is just beyond a joke.
simgorm Absolutely! Depeche Mode are just a 2nd rate pop group and nothing to do with rock whatsoever. Same goes for Whitney. This is just a music hall of fame. I think the best thing true rockers can do is totally disregard it and leave it to the pop groups and rappers.
D T you have no idea what Depeche Mode. They are probably the singlehandedly most influential band when it comes to synth music, and if you forget their albums Songs of Faith and Devotion and Ultra, then you forget the their influence on rock. Depeche Mode deserved to be in the Rock and Role Hall of Fame years ago, I can understand other artists like Whitney Houston and b.i.g but Depeche Mode deserves to be inducted.
@@dt6949 lol @ Depeche Mode being second rate. You really have no idea what you're talking about. And stop being hung up on the name "Rock n Roll". It's a MUSIC Hall of Fame.
DT, look up and watch a Depeche Mode concert. They are in their 50’s and they still put on an incredible rock show. Their song writing is amazing and their songs take you on an emotional journey. They still put out great music and sell out concerts world wide. On they last tour, they sold out the Hollywood Bowl for four nights. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think they are the first musical act to sell out the Bowl that many times.
runawayuniverse Couldn’t give a s**t what you think. You are completely wrong if you are trying to suggest they are a rock band! Your views require no further comment from me. And if you had taken the time to read my comment you’d see that a music hall of fame is exactly what I called it!
Tremendous Show !! PETE. !
Far out T-shirt Pete. 'Fire of Unknown Origin' is a master piece.
B.O.C. have never even been nominated.which is BS
YES, it is!
One of my favourite albums of all time.
Dave E
it's my most played BOC cd!
Are you a 'veteran' of the psychic wars?? If so, thank you for your service!
Apart from your "rants" I enjoy looking at your wide assortment of rock t-shirts.
You tell em pete. Judas priest, thin lizzy, motorhead, should all be included.
Honestly, the Rock ‘N’ Roll Hall of Fame needs to be rebranded as the Music Hall of Fame. Solves the problem real quick.
Thank God for you Pete! You are saying what the fans think and feel. It's becoming a misnomer naming it Rock and roll Hall of Fame.
Rock bands should start telling them to stuff it when asked to be in.
Pete...your comments are spot on... Have the same opinions overall! The RNR Hall Of Fame should be for Rock. It would be great for so many deserving artists to be inducted.
Wow I am actually surprised they got this so wrong. Amazing.
Rock n Roll hall of shame!
I agree with your rant, it should be the "how can we line our pockets hall of fame"
Pete, I am fully in agreement with your post. The Hall only looks at the financials.
Bill Legend. TRex.. Long time coming..
Hey Pete, what’s your opinion on the band Magnum?
LOVE THEM!
I couldn't agree any more Pete.. it's now the Rock n Roll Hall of Lame
Thank you Pete! You hit the nail on the head about the Rock and Roll Hall of Shame and it being all about the definitely will not be watching. I still love your Rock Shrine of Excellence idea and it being in New York. We fans of REAL music should get it going. Take care.
At what point will Dolly Parton, Garth Brooks, and Reba McEntire be enshrined into the Hall of Fame? After all, aren't they rock and roll?
so will The partridge family, donnie osmond, michael bolton, helen reddy and Kenny G
Yes, they are just as "rock and roll" as Biggie Smalls! I'm thinking we've finally discovered the REAL reason Iron Maiden hasn't been inducted yet.... It's because they aren't "rock and roll", like Reba McIntyre and Biggie! We'll just have to patiently wait for the Gangster Rap HOF to open up, so that bands like Iron Maiden can FINALLY be put into a HOF that accurately represents their genre!!
Look who's playing at the Super Bowl. As Dee Snyder said, WTF happened to RnR?! JLo, Shakira..Pavarotti next? Celine Dion? No one's off the table now.
@@stephanierae650 i hate the super bowl halftime show-it blows.
@Perfect Stranger Tip toe through the tulips.
Amen, Pete. I couldn't agree more. Maybe they should call it the What Have You Done For Me Lately Hall of Fame. I could make a case for the Stones and Queen to be in the R&B Hall of Fame. The songs Miss You, Another One Bites The Dust and Emotional Rescue.
Grand Funk Railroad
Three Dog Night
T-Rex
Eddie Trunk has explained at length just how minuscule the voting actually is.
Hundreds of musicians, executives, historians, and esteemed music journalists each have 5 votes to use on the pool of nominees.
Winning the fan vote only gets you ONE vote. It doesn't matter how many millions of people voted for a certain act. If you win the fan vote, it online counts as ONE extra vote on your ballot.
Miles Davis is still there, Pete. 1987. But generally, I totally agree with the context of this video. Look at this list of people that aren't there:
Alan Parsons
Bachman Turner Overdrive
Dixie Dregs
Emerson Lake and Palmer
Faith No More
Focus
Gentle Giant
Grandfunk Railroad
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
Jimi Hendrix
Joe Satriani
Judas Priest
Kansas
King Crimson
Living Colour
Marillion
Nazareth
Procol Harum
Queensryche
Rainbow
Renaissance
Scorpions
Steve Vai
Stray Cats
Supertramp
Sweet
Tears for Fears
Triumvirat
Uriah Heep
Yngwie Malmsteen
Finally someone listed Grand Funk! Sold millions and millions of records and what a great live show!!
Tear For Fears. Most definitely. And Supertramp.
I found this info, not sure if this is 100% accurate but makes sense with what you are saying at the end: "The top five vote-getters in the Fan Vote comprise one “fan ballot,” which is counted as just one among a thousand other ballots. Those ballots are filled out by members of the actual voting body, which includes music journalists and other industry insiders, along with every living person who’s been inducted. So, more than 8 million fans cast their votes online under the impression that they’re having their voice heard, but really it’s just for about one-tenth of one percent of the total vote."
Actually I think they DO care it's why Neil Peart admitted in his speech that it really is a big deal to them! And why Geddy thanked their devoted fan base for making it happen.
i am Rock'nRoll & Heavy Metal fan , but Frankly i'm happy for Depeche Mode they are one of the pioneers of new wave & Electronic rock...they have a career of almost 40 years and their albums from "Black Celebration" to "Songs of Faith and Devotion" are great albums and very influential on many musicians of all genres...even Trent Reznor ( nine inch nails) admits their influence on his music !!
Got any blue oyster cult
One of my favorite groups of all time. Glad to see someone recognizing them.
No, I don't have any Blue Oyster Cult. I ate 34 pairs last time around. Where were you?
@@dvdly I have to re-watch Fast Times at Ridgemont High sometime. I'm just afraid it won't be as good as I remember it being.
@@thelasthandbook6704 It holds up for me and not just for nostalgic value, but that the actors manage to deliver the dialogue such as to render the whole thing seamless, catchphrases notwithstanding.
Agreed with you totally, Pete! Whitney and Notorious B.I.G. do not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They should just change the name to the Music Hall of Fame if they are going to continue this trend. One artist you didn't mention in your Rant is one that definitely should have been in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame years ago, and that is Todd Rundgren, not only an incredible influence on rock music from his Nazz days forward, but also influential as a producer of a lot of great rock and roll records.
Hip hop or rap does not belong in the Rock and Roll hall of fame
Hip hop is shaped from r&b. R&b helped shape rock and roll. I think a lot of you don’t know the history as to how the genre of rock and roll was created and the original purpose of why the rock and roll hall of fame even exists. If you look at the first induction ceremony they consisted of a lot of r&b singers. Rock and roll has versatile beginnings.
Pete, what T.REX albums do you own? I'd be happy to send you a compilation of the best of what you don't have/know. They have a substantial list of weighty artists who love them or have been influenced by them (U2, Foo Fighters, Elton John, The Ramones, The WHO's Pete Townshend, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr (as well as Ringo's son Zak Starkey who plays drums for the who now but he says he's more of a guitar player and that he learned guitar because of Marc Bolan), Oasis, REM, Joan Jett, Def Leppard, Alice Cooper, David Bowie..etc. In any case, I will, as I said, happily send you a CD compilation of whatever you dont already have or know of T.REX.
More like Shit 'n' Roll Hall of Fame, my favorite musicians don't care this kind of stuff anyway.
Ezio Auditore Sadly some musicians actually do care about award shows.
If your favorite musicians don't care about it, why are you here crying over it?
@@runawayuniverse Who is crying? Are you a joke...
You do care enough to comment.
@@brianchappell4054 I wanted to tell the people how empty that community is just like your comment.
Agree 100 per cent. Two of the most talented and deserving snubs who should have been in 20 years ago are Paul Rodgers in both Free and Bad Company and Todd Rundgren.
Boston Kansas BOC Foghat Styx REO Frank Marino Pat Travers UFO Motorhead Scorpions Iron Maiden Rainbow Whitesnake.
Black Oak Arkansas too!!!
And Grand Funk, Foghat, and Ted Nugent...
Excellent rant Pete. I'm sick of the hall screwing around with the bands of our youth, if they get chosen into the hall in the next 10 years or so, most of the guys or gals will be in their late 70's or mid to late 60's. It's not worth it, the hof has just lost all sight of what real music is. Bands I would like to see in the next 10 years: Jethro Tull, J.Geils Band, Kansas, Pat Benatar, King Crimson, ELP, Thin Lizzy, UFO, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Jeff Lynne for production, Blue Oyster Cult, Camel, Caravan, the Guess Who, BTO and Grand Funk. Forget it none will be chosen!
Priest
Maiden
UFO
Styx
Induct while they are still active/alive
I don't think maiden care if they're not in the hall of fame,, they know how popular they are with their fans just look at the size of their tours.
Styx is way more successful than Cheap Trick
Herman Helmich I couldn’t agree more with your list ..all four that you mentioned 👍🏼
Kansas, Supertramp, Jethro Tull, REO Speedwagon, Foriegner
@@bunnyplush I think that I read somewhere that Jan Wenner(Rolling Stone Mag./Exec.Board for RRHOF) said that Styx will never get in the RRHOF.Have no idea what his vendetta is with them.
…..one of the smartest pieces of advice I have ever received when questioning just what the hell is going on in this world today...…."follow the money". Greed will be the undoing of us all and the evidence of this is everywhere!!! Never seen a u haul behind a hearse.
I live, in Ohio and really, only the people who live, in and around Cleveland, consider the R&R HoF relevant because of tourism.
Only 2 R&R bands made it this time. Such a sad joke.
At least Ohio has the NFL HoF...
Edit: Spellcheck error.
Love Rants! Spot on Pete. Thanks for saying what all of us feel. Disgraceful. Hate rap. Crapola!
The hall has tons of blues artists and I believe Miles is already in
I couldn't agree more. This so called "Hall Of Fame" is a joke and holds no relevance whatsoever. When they initially announced they were creating it oh so many years ago I thought it was a cool idea and thought I'd one day plan a vacation around visiting it but, honestly, I wouldn't go out of my way to go there now.
I agree totally with your comment on the casual Lizzy fan. An example why, I went to a Lizzy tribute act about 10 years ago and they give the crowd a choice for the encore. They offered Whisky in the Jar or Black Rose, and the twats chose Whisky. Never went to watch the band again.
Brian Downey's Live & Dangerous is really good.
I should have said the band was Limehouse Lizzy.
Yup. Saw Miles Davis at the Front Row theatre in 1981 and his guitarist-Michael Stern-was ABSOLUTELY a brilliant ROCK guitarist. Of course Davis always surrounded himself with the best musicians. Almost all went on to become legends in their own right. Your analysis is spot on. I loved Miles but he was a JAZZ master! RTHOF is a sham.
I certainly think that Soundgarden and Motörhead were OBVIOUS SNUBS this year.. Not to mention Judas Priest; I could make a convincing argument for them. I agree with you about The Doobie Brothers, I'm certainly glad they're in.. Whitney Houston and The Notorious B.I.G are NOT ROCK !!!! So, I'm right there with you; I won't be watching it either. You've made several good points.
Rest in Peace Chris Cornell AND Lemmy 🤘🤘🤘
Your points about Thin Lizzy and Motorhead really hit home. The casual fans know them for 1 or 2 songs, and have no idea just how fucking hard they rocked.
All award shows are irrelevant nowadays.
Rock and roll (often written as rock & roll, rock 'n' roll, or rock 'n roll) is a genre of popular music that originated and evolved in the United States during the late 1940s and early 1950s from musical styles such as **gospel**, jump blues, jazz, boogie woogie, **rhythm and blues**, and country music. So yes **Whitney** belongs in there. This is not the "Rock" hall of fame, it's the "Rock and roll" hall of fame. They have been inducting black soul artists ever since the first year.
No Todd Rundgren?
What's the point of fan voting if it means nothing in the end?
My favourite Rap tune is All Hells Breakin Loose. KISS
I love that song.
Don't forget Dylan's Subterranean Homesick Blues. First "rap" song ever written. Gene Simmons is a big fan.
@bucky468 Bring The Noise is pretty catchy.
Pete, I liked your rant. What do you think of Dick Clark's New Years "Rockin" (?) Eve.
The “Mock and Moll Hall of Fame”.
I totally agree Pete. If this is how these acts are selected then why bother having a fan vote. Piss on the Rock and roll hall of fame.
Hip hop is not rock 'n' roll. Little Richard is rock 'n' roll. He says so himself.
iamreg1965
THANK YOU!
NIN isn't music!
Bunny rabbit "music"?
I totally agree! Very sad !
Miles Davis is already in.
Is he? Well, that is good then!
@@seaoftranquilityprog Disagree. For the same reason I don't like Madonna or Grandmaster Flash being in. He's not rock n roll. I'm a jazz fusion guy too, but I don't want to selectively accept genre blurring when it suits me. Honestly, if you look at the all time list of inductees, Miles induction in 2006 may have opened the floodgates for non-rockers, unfortunately. It's said to have been a highly corrupt, influence job too, spurred on by Quincy Jones .
@@georgelamie7001 My point is he's more deserving than a lot of the lame ones we've been mentioning. In theory though, yes, jazz, rap, country, soul, etc...no go
@@georgelamie7001 There's plenty of 'not rock' guys inducted before Miles. Check out the full list.
@@ShanghaiRooster Not sure I'd say plenty. There are def. some that aren't pure rockers, but they tend to have some tenuous connection to the genre, or are offshoots, like Buddy Guy, Prince, The Clash, Michael Jackson. It was post-Miles that we started getting rappers and dance music on the regular.
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