The R&R HOF doesn't have Country artists in as they have their own HOF. They should follow the same rule for R&B and Rap acts. It's called rock and roll!
There is a guy out there who has had more hits than the Beatles and The Rolling Stones put together and his backing band who had 33 hits on their own - Cliff Richard and the Shadows. Never nominated. The man invented rock and roll in England and The Shadows inspired the entire generation of British guitarists in the 60's (and Neil Young and Randy Bachman!). Should have been in the hall of fame from Day 1.
Excellent comment and glad you mentioned that Cliff & The Shads were so important in their early years. Without them there would be no Beatles or Stones (even if they don't admit it themselves).
@@snowfiresunwind - without Cliff, there would be no Beatles - I think the Beatles would have made it all by themselves without any help from anyone - they may have been influenced by others but I am guessing Cliff Richard wasn't one of them, although I agree Cliff has done well - hell he's lasted 6 decades.
@@Londoneye57 There wouldn't have been the British rock and roll industry to discover the Beatles without Richard. Had the been discovered at all, the would have been shuffled aside into light entertainment.
@@Londoneye57 Fair comment but the point I tried to make here is that Cliff/Shads were the first UK group to have a true authentic RnR sound that perfectly captured the spirit of all the artists that were among those that influenced the Beatles/Stones and I think the Shads sound/format particularly must have inspired the Beatles (or Harrison at least - remember Cry for a Shadow?) to realise that it was possible for a UK group to play American music while at the same time giving it a Brit stampmark as well as it being possible to actually make a living out of performing it. The early UK RnR years are an interesting topic and I don't believe Cliff and the Shads get enough credit for their influence during that period.
I said it last year and ill say it again, lets see a SEA OF TRANQUILITY HALL OF FAME. Get the panel together for a list of nominees and have the audience vote a few in with polls. Do it every year. It would be awesome. The RnR HOF is a joke make a SOT HOF Pete.
This would be a dope panel discussion, everyone brings in ten, then they have to vote for who doesn't deserve it, wittle down the field from say 70 to 21 and FIGHT.
@@HeavyMetal-jy4vj I wrote up a much longer comment last year breajing down a plan but either no one cared or it was shadowbanned/spam. I'm sure Pete is always looking for new topics so i would make this an annual thing. Id have the panel come up with the nominees probably a few per decade (or maybe 10 per decade) and they all have a discussion then the fans vote in polls for the band (s) to be inducted by each decade(60s, 70s, 80s, 90s). So possibly 2 bands per decade, that's 8 bands per year. This way it is truly a real credible Hall Of Excellence as Pete put it. This could be an ongoing show for the next ten years. Put in 5 or ten bands per year and eventually youll have 50 or 100 bands. The panel wpuld be fine with the selections as they make all the nominations and we the fans vote on who goes in first. SOT guarantees no weak nominations and we make the final picks. Id probably split it into two categories, ROCK or METAL. Not a million subgenres just something to separate the Bad Companys from the Slayers. Everyone on the panel picks 1 rock & 1 metal band per decade. Look at what Martin Popoff does with banger tv albums of the year. Possibly Have the fans nominate 1 band per year the panel doesnt pick in the comment section. For example say someone on the panel picks Bad Company & Black Sabbath in the 70s and Uriah Heep gets overlooked well maybe they get pushed in by fan votes. It would be a lot of work but itd be fun & Pete would learn about his audience and what they like most and maybe he can top it off with some guest interviews & book giveaways or something. Real panel + real fans = real hard rock Hall Of Greatness.
The band members said that over the years, they had crossed some of the cronies that run the RnRHoF, so they will never get in. Who really cares about the RnRHoF anyway? BOC's music speaks for itself.
I love all of those bands. It's really at the point of absurdity that so many rock legends have not been inducted. If there is no place in the Hall for at least some of the bands that you listed, then the RRHOF really doesn't mean anything to me anymore. Alex Chilton and Lemmy, not in the Hall? Ridiculous!
The Rock n Roll hall doesn't really make any sense. Jay Z..? LL Cool J..? Might as well throw Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath in the Rap Hall of Fame if there even is such a thing.
you took the words right out of my mouth. In the U.K we have the music of black origin awards which I find stupid as isn't all modern music of black origin if you go back?
@@krissymarklewis1793 awards created by box ticking lefties. Who cares what colour you are if the music is actually good and requires at least SOME talent?
I disagree. Rap is specific. Rock n Roll is not. It is a general term. Rock, hard rock, heavy metal - those are more specific terms. Everyone is so caught up in the term “rock n roll”. There are jazz artists like Miles Davis, country artists like Johnny Cash, folk artists like Joan Baez, rap artists like Run DMC, and pop artists like Madonna, all in the Hall of Fame, and deservedly so. They don’t mean rock n roll as specifically ‘rock’ artists who only play guitar and drums. It’s all great artists who’ve made an impact in the rock n roll era, meaning all popular music after the creation of rock n roll in the 50s. There was jazz and big band and traditional gospel and American folk, and then in the 50s there was something else, thanks to Bill Haley, Little RichArd, Buddy Holly, Elvis, Ray Charles, and many more, which everything we have today came from. So if you don’t want Whitney Houston, then you can’t have Smokey Robinson or Marvin Gaye or Diana Ross. Do you really want those artists to not be in the rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame? Anyone in popular music who’s made an impact should be welcome.
@PGK 878 I agree, but personal taste shouldn’t matter. You can’t argue his impact on music. They should put more in each year, like 10 or 12, spread the love a little. And 25 years is too soon, move it to 30. Too many artists still not in that need to be before foo fighters, rage, and jay z. Creed and Nickelback will be eligible next year. God what a nightmare that would be. When people get too upset about this issue, it smacks a little bit prejudicial since Rock music is a predominantly white form of music. I’m fine if someone wants to start a Rock Hall or Heavy Metal Hall, but the term rock n roll is rather all genre encompassing.
I’ll be voting for Kate Bush, Iron Maiden, Tina Turner, Devo, and Carole King. I think they should change the eligibility number to 30 years. Too many artists still need in before foo fighters, rage , and jay z. It’s too soon.either that or change the number of inductees every year to 10 or 12, and spread the wealth a little in regards to age, significance and genre, so everything gets representation. I mean Jesus. Creed will be eligible next year. Nickelback is eligible now! That can’t happen!
I'm pretty sure Carole King is already in, as a song writer. This one would probably be for her own music catalogue. Tapestry is, of course, legendary and should qualify her by itself.
There's a Hip Hop Hall of Fame, a Soul Music Hall of Fame, Country Music Hall of Fame, etc., etc., etc... Does anyone want to guess how many "rock" artists are in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame? The answer might not suprise you: Zero. Zilch. Notta. It's 100% hip hop artists. But for some reason (political? financial? personal?) the Rock Hall of Fame is uniquely open to nominations from all musical genres. I mean I sometimes enjoy the cross-pollination of rock with other musical styles, but it's a bit maddening to see how the Rock Hall is run when the other Halls stick with the categories they were intended to honor.
I knew about the country one and heard rumors of the others but yeah. Honestly, this is time to create new halls, maybe run by fans or bands in those genres. The RnR is run by industry executives which is why Jay-Z is probably going in, while Iron Maiden probably won't.
You are absolutely spot on with your comments! Should be in this year: Carole King, Todd Rundgren, Tina Turner, Go-Go's for sure. Then maybe a toss up between Rage and Chaka. Most of these artists should have been inducted long ago. Who is most likely to get in? (based on their misguided pics in the past) Probably Jay-Z, Foo Fighters, Mary J, LL Cool J, and New York Dolls. As you say, much of the list is not R&R and some others have not paid their dues long enough.
I am a huge Todd Rundgren fan and as many have observed he is long over due for this...honor? Not sure if Todd feels it would be that. I’m also a huge Roxy Music fan and if you asked 10 people on the street, in the US at least, if they heard of Roxy Music you would get a lot of “ive heard of Rock Music, is that what you mean?” Todd’s catalogue is extensive, varied, and decades long. As an innovator and multi instrumental, multi genre artist there are few who hold a candle to him.
Definitely both Todd and Roxy Music, James. Roxy Music's first 4 albums are as good as anybody's first four in rock, in my view. With Todd, you've got Runt, A Wizard a True Star, Todd (the double album), Something Anything, and Faithfull (they're just the ones I'm familiar with. I also know Todd Rundgren's Utopia but, frankly,I wouldn't place it as highly as those others I've mentioned). As well as the qualities that you rightly mention above, I would also add his production skills (esp. on Wizard). You may be familiar with some of Todd's other albums that you would recommend. Regards.
@@tonyanderton3521 Sure Tony. First, I don't know of a "bad" Todd or Utopia album so I'll try to give a few of my favs that you haven't listed here without siting the entire catalogue. I have seen him over 50 times and have had the pleasure of meeting and talking with him a number of times over the years. Between his solo work, the Nazz albums and Utopia there are over 40 releases to choose from. If you are a fan of AWATS and Todd you HAVE to give Initiation (Bearsville Records 1975) and The Hermit of Mink Hollow ('78) a listen; The live "Back to the Bars" (recorded during week-long stints at The Bottom Line (NY), The Roxy (LA), and Cleveland (The Agora). Of course the first Utopia album (75) and the live "Another Live"...the list can go on and on. I know Pete has done a few shows ranking/rating both Todd's solo and Utopia.
@@jameshannon3067 James, thanks, that's an amazing reply. You certainly seem to know your Todd Rundgren. I'm certainly now going to get in to Initiation, The Hermit of Mink Hollow, and Back to the Bars. Many thanks again, and best wishes from England.
Hounds of love album is a masterpiece. Kate is beloved rightly so, a true visionary. I like to see singer songwriter hall of fame, Carol king and Todd and of course Kate bush would be there.
I love the gos gos, but I think suzi quatro and the runaways should be in there , they paved the way for them, I know Joan Jett is already in, which is great, but I think Pat Benetar is just as deserving.
Good God, The Go Go’s??? That they are even nominated to me is a shock! Pat Benatar has a better catalogue of songs, hits and albums, a more stunning voice and longevity. I think The Bangles are infinitely more talented than the Go Go’s. When you question who is nominated and who gets in, remember the guy who runs Rolling Stone magazine. It’s all political, folks.
@@DCToonTime Totally agree that Benatar is sorely underrated. And when Go-Go’s resurface, it’s a big commotion. Meanwhile, Benatar has been playing joints and casinos w/ her husband for the past 20 years. I guess you have to go silent for a decade, in order to “come back”.
It should be called Jann Wenner’s music Hall of Fame. Regardless of how good you are, if he doesn’t like you, you don’t get in. So many artist who are not in and should be. Like UFO, Humble Pie, Ten Years After, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Robin Trower Johnny Winter. Just to name a few. Plus, the artists who are in, that don’t belong because their music is not classified as rock n roll. There are way too many to list. Look how long it took Deep Purple to get in. They should have been in one of the first groups to be inducted. The rock hall is a joke. Someone who has real taste in music needs to open a real Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
Jan finally resigned from the committee a few years ago to spend more time with his boyfriend so there has been a cavalcade of bands he did not like getting in the last few years like Deep Purple, Cheap Trick etc. Your list of examples here is PERFECT, every single one of them are classic examples of that pretentious d-bag blocking them getting in.
@@johnkolko5199 Thanks for the info. I didn’t realize that he stepped down. That may explain how T.Rex and the Doobies got in, last year. I assume Wenner still has some influence because how else did Whitney Houston and Notorious B.I.G. get in? They may be popular artist but not in the category of Rock & Roll. Especially with some many other artists who are more deserving of the honor.
@@stoneyj.5538 It wasnt just him driving the selections, it was pretty much Rolling Stone Magazines. crew, so Wenner is gone but it is still run by a group of pretentious elitists. But at least some of the bands Wenner was personally blocking have gotten in. I always said it was the Rolling Stone Magazine Hall of Fame, not R&R. Your initial comment echoes my thoughts exactly. It would be nice if they revamped it and did a catch up year where the class was a group of bands you listed all got in plus some metal bands like Maiden, Priest, Motorhead, Megadeth and Slayer too, Wont happen but it would be nice,
I couldn’t care two hoots about the RRHF but if I had to choose, I’d say Kate Bush, Carole King, Tina Turner and Dione Warwick. All fabulous singers in different ways, all have had long and varied careers.
Let me please make a case for Boston. First, the obvious: The Debut is as Classic as it gets. It's as perfect as it gets with every song getting rotation on FM radio for decades. It has a CLASSIC single in More than a Feeling. Like Kirk Gibson's dramatic home run in the '88 series, this alone should be enough to get you in the HOF. But let's talk about sales. The debut has sold over 20 million. One hit wonder? NO! Don't Look Back, while maligned at the time, is actually a great sophomore effort which went to #1 on the Billboard Hot 200 AND had a #4 single in the title track. It has sold over 7 million. Then we have Third Stage and its #1 successes. If sales and popularity are a factor, Boston has sold tons more than the Go Gos (who I also love....and are definitely worthy of induction). Now for what separates Boston from the other "Corporate Rock" bands (stupid term I'm using just as a reference- people who can't hear the difference between Styx, REO, Journey, Foreigner and Boston are Morons). The story behind the band is a true American rags to riches story. One man working in his basement wrote, produced and invented a sound that was never heard before. He found a singer and a drummer to finish a demo which was rejected by all the major record companies. Luck plays a role in having this demo be discovered and the band takes the nation by storm. At at time when Disco ruled the charts, Boston added a heavy yet melodic sound and the rest became history. Out of it all, we get all that great music, classic singles and albums, sales up the ying yang, solid influence for a number of bands including Nirvana, and the emergence of one of the greatest vocalists in the history of Rock! Isn't that enough? No, wait, I forgot to mention that this one man band, Tom Scholz, also invented the Rockman which also changed the rock scene through the '80s. Am I wrong? How can this band NOT be in the HOF???
@@kforcer Sabbath, Maiden & Priest. The Unholy Trinity of Metal along w Motorhead should have all been no brainers in their first year of eligibility. Then later Slayer & Megadeth to go w Metallica.
@@kforcer Love Dio but to me, he doesnt hold a candle to those bands. Just my opinion. I liked his work in Rainbow more than his solo work . Was not a fan if the Dio led Sabbath, found their music kind of boring. Not to rip on Ronnie but think Slayer and Megadeth are miles ahead of Dio.
@@johnkolko5199 I hear you. We differ pretty strongly here; Dio is one of my favorites of all-time but on the other hand, if Slayer comes on, I'm changing the channel or tuning out. Not surprisingly, Dio's era of Sabbath is far and away my favorite (though I dig Tony Martin's stuff). I do like Megadeth though. But not in the same way I like Dio (they are great though, don't get me wrong). Love him or hate him though, I think he's had a major influence. But hey, metal heads don't have to agree on everything.
Tommy Bolin, Wishbone Ash, Vanilla Fudge, Rory Gallagher, Gary Moore, Jimmy Vaughn/Thunderbirds,, Cactus, Badfinger, Black Oak Arkansas, King Crimson, Foghat, Poco, Procal Harem, James Gang,............
I would love to see a video with the Hudson Valley Squares where you all list your top 5 artist or bands that aren't in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame that should be, before anyone else.
Rundgren should have gotten in last year on his list of artists who's albums he produced alone.His work with Utopia and solo was at least a few years ahead of the curve.
I can't count the amount of times I've looked at an album..and was shocked and amazed that Rundgren produced it. He should have been inducted years ago! The man is along the lines of George Martin....
Kate Bush is the Godmother of Alt/Indie. She's very influential. Adele, Chryssie Hynde & the late Amy Winehouse have cited her as an influence on their music, as have Suzanne Vega, Liz Phair & Tori Amos. She belongs there. She credits oodles of her fame to David Gilmour of Pink Floyd and Peter Gabriel. The former discovered her. She's classified under art-rock. Annie Haslem/Renaissance is one of her influences, fyi. Like Annie, Kate's a soprano with a beautiful voice. I agree with your picks. Fyi, Carole is already is the Rock Hall as a non-performer/producer, with her ex Gerry Goffin. Styx, Foreigner, Boston, Priest, Tull, Lizzy, Motorhead, Crimson, ELP, Dan Fogelberg, and so many others got screwed.
@@rightchordleadership In the 1970s, Jethro Tull were almost as big as Led Zeppelin, and they've continued to be *almost* as big. I've seen 7 Tull concerts, some of the greatest concerts I have ever attended
Couldn't care less about that shit... Having said that Kate Bush, Carole King, Iron Maiden, New York Dolls, Todd Rundgren and Tina Turner are legendary acts, no questions about that.
Of the ones you said, Maiden, Rundgren, and New York Dolls are worthy of induction. Carol King, Kate Bush, and Tina Turner wouldn’t get my vote, however I wouldn’t be up in arms or complaining if any of those 4 made it
It doesn’t matter , Jethro Tull is the best progressive rock band ever existed, too sophisticated complex and smart for the CEOs of RRHF to accept this true . The RRHF is nothing for Jethro Tull , they deserve an statue in the music history.
Maybe a topic for the Hudson Valley Squares? The Real Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Put all the artists that are already in the current Hall of Fame together in the Real Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and let each member add three artists that should be included immediately and without any doubt.
@@davehoward22 I'm sure, since it should be called the American R-n-R HOF. If you weren't popular in the U.S. you will never get in no matter how big you were in other countries. Which band was picked to open Live Aid.
I can’t understand how Iron Maiden, a massive successful global band with amazing live shows and killer records are not in. This Organization-is a JOKE! and your right they probably wont get in but I hope somehow they do
This is a great idea, and something Pete would do well. Get the viewers to send their nominations, then get the Hudson Valley Squares to discuss the nominees. I'm sure they could even get a nice award trophy commissioned. Plenty of designers etc... watch this channel I'm sure.
My favorites since the 80s usually get ugnored....Jane's, Pumpkins, Living Colour, King's X, Ministry, etc. NIN got in, maybe the Pumpkins do eventually, who knows. That doesn't even touch on the absolute legendary had rock and metal bands that aren't in, true embarrassments to the industry. Jann isn't in control any more, but that same hatred continues for all things heavy. continyes.
Should be in by now... Grand Funk Railroad, The Guess Who, Steppenwolf, Sparks, The Monkees, Blue Oyster Cult, Humble Pie, Three Dog Night, Bachman Turner Overdrive, etc...
Hey Pete, I was surprised to hear you give the Go-Go's a thumbs up. I have always been a fan & I've always caught shit from some of my metal friends because of it. Great band, a lot of great songs.
Belinda the girls are just fun man always have been. I even thought Go-Go's light The Bangles were fun too Suzanna hoffs and the girls they Rock too I caught lots of shit from that thru the years 🤣🤣
The “rock” part needs to go. People tell me rock n till is a lifestyyyylle maaaaaan. Yeah and it’s also a sound dumb dumb. Jay Z, LL, Mary J ARE NOT RNR
In case you didn’t know (which obviously you don’t), the Hall of Fame covers ALL genres of music. With that said, Mary J Blige & Jay-Z do not belong there. But it seems like you have a real problem with hip hop and soul in general. But then again, if you think Kansas and Jethro Tull should be inducted, I just can’t take you seriously.
It’s a joke, but looking at this list, Maiden, Rundgren, New York Dolls, Carol King, Kate Bush, and Tine Turner are all yeses. Some more enthusiastic yeses than others but all of those acts I feel are worthy of a spot. The only other ones I’m torn with are RATM and Foo Fighters. I love RATM (forget the politics, we’re here for the music), but I don’t know if they’ve got the kind of influence and legacy. I don’t know with them. Foo Fighters on the other hand, I’m not a fan of, but I recognize that they’ve been one of the biggest rock bands of the last 25 years, so from a commercial and legacy perspective, you can definitely make a case for them. The rest I range from not knowing enough to comment, to emphatic no’s Just my two cents
Obviously Iron Maiden are great but I have to pronounce my love for Kate Bush. She is amazing. The basis of her music is rock (normally she is classified as art rock or art pop).
Rolling Stone Magazine hall of fame. The hall of fame committees interests drifted away from rebellious rock music decades ago. I do not expect them to take judas priest, iron maiden, or motorheads music at face value. "Every five years put a rocker band in and have them close the show." I hate their mindset.
You’ve hit the nail on the head about this Pete. It’s become the Music Hall of Fame- not the Rock Hall of Fame!!! It just waters down & dilutes the whole the whole thing!!! Just a travesty!! 😭😭😭😭
DEVO had two platinum albums. They are more than the "Whip It" band. Very influential in the world of music video as well. I agree with you about Foo Fighters and Rage.
There's tons of DEVO closet fans Because DEVO is not your run of the mill mainstream Music They are too advanced Like The are Time Travelers from the Future !!
Go Gos need to get in simply because they hold the distinction of being the first all female band to have a #1 album with songs written by themselves. The fact that they are not in yet is an incredible lapse by the P.C. Rock Hall.
FYI: Todd Rundgren produced the NY Dolls first album, too. Correction: You incorrectly state that the Dolls only recorded two albums; actually, the band reformed in 2006 (with two original members; David Johansen and Syl Sylvain), and put out five more albums (three studio, two live), the first of which, One Day It Will Please Us to Remember Even This, is just as good as the first two. Their follow up, 'Cause I Sez So, produced by Todd Rundgren as well, and Dancing Backwards in High Heels, their fourth, I haven't checked out yet, but both garnered positive reviews (All Music says 'Cause I Sez So sounds more like a David Johansen solo album, so take that for what it's worth). The live album from the Bowery is fierce and raw; down and dirty in NYC just as it should be. The other live album, recorded in London in 2004, which also featured original bassist Arthur "Killer" Kane just a few months before he died from leukemia, I also haven't checked out yet because I didn't know it existed. However, it was the success of this show with led to new studio albums, so naturally it must be great as well. Naturally, I love the Dolls and would love to see them honored. Post NY Dolls, we should consider that Johnny Thunders' record with the Heartbreakers, L.A.M.F., and his solo album So Alone, are both classic rock and roll, and David's first solo album is scorching hot as well, so their influence didn't cease in 1974. That being said, I am also a huge fan of Blue Oyster Cult, and if I had to choose between the two, I'd let them have it for sure.
Rock stations in the 80s, 90s, early 2000s would only play 2 or 3 songs from their catalog. Reaper, Burnin, and maybe Godzilla. Zilch from their arguably best album 'Secret Treaties'.
Hey Pete! It's gotta happen. Can we do our own voting on an annual Sea Of Tranquility Hall of Exellence like you touched upon? I think it would be great for us all to have a REAL hall of fame for our beloved bands! Maybe a winning member of said band could come on the show and collect a prize! If they are still alive 😂 We could all vote for best band overall, and best category. Best guitarist, bassist, drummer etc. What do you think 🤔? At least put it out there to us all. We know what music really is! Thanks.
“ I wanna Rock you out” by LL Cool J is cool. Mary J Blige’s “ I’m so ugly but they still gave me a record deal” is and Dionne Warwick’s “I’ll never watch inductions again”- all great! Let’s not forget those rockers- Bel Biv Devoe.
It‘s still a mystery to me why british rock legends Status Quo are so much ignored in the USA but still loved in the rest of the world. They’re in the business since 1965 and still rockin‘...
My list of bands that should be in; Iron Maiden Judas Priest Motörhead Thin Lizzy Sweet Boston Reo Speedwagon Styx Foreigner Sound garden Alice In Chains Bad Company Blue Oyster Cult Ozzy Osbourne (Solo) Sammy Hagar (solo) Ronnie James Dio (His entire career) Pat Benatar Jethro Tull Slayer Megadeth Grand Funk Railroad Ted Nugent Motley Crue The Guest Who Scorpions UFO SteppenWolf Kansas What do you all think?
Foo Fighters??? Even though they're more worthy than half of the proposed artists; they haven't done anything significant, nor are they history worthy.
Yeah, but they'll get in because they're popular with the masses. Cult bands like Sonic Youth or Big Star, despite being fairly influential will always struggle unfortunately...
An A-Z of fave bands/singers not yet in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (but should be): Ambrosia, Asia Bad Company, Badfinger, Boston The Charlatans UK Devo Eurythmics Foreigner, Free Grass Roots, Guess Who Humble Pie, Ian Hunter It’s A Beautiful Day Jethro Tull King Crimson, Kinks, Kraftwerk Jeff Lorber Fusion Mott The Hoople Harry Nilsson Ohio Players, Oingo Boingo Procol Harum Quicksilver Messenger Service Renaissance, Todd Rundgren Steppenwolf, Supertramp, Sweet 10cc, Thin Lizzy, Three Dog Night UFO, U.K. Wall Of Voodoo, War X Yellow Magic Orchestra Warren Zevon
Sincerely hope that Maiden get the award this year and then as they take the stage with the organisers expecting 3 to 4 minutes of "Run to the Hills" or "Number of the Beast" Bruce announces "this is what not to do when your bird sh*ts on you!" and they get the full length version of "Rime"! T'would be awesome!
There is enough Money in Hip Hop for them to build there own Hall Of Fame. There is NO reason why there should not be a Hip Hop Hall of Fame. That being said....Can you imagine the blow back if a Rock Band was nominated to be in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame?
Agreed but don't think it would happen if there was such a thing like one person in hip hop / rap cares about rock and metal that's ice t other than him people in rap wouldn't piss on a great rock band if they were on fire. Idk that is just my opinion
The thing about the NY Dolls is "Too Litlle Too Late" (got the reference?). Only David Johansen is alive, Sylvain Sylvain died a month ago and the other 3 members are dead for quite sometime. RRHF missed the opportunity. They even released 3 post 2000 albums, but - although good ones - they don't count as NY Dolls proper albums (in my opinion). I'm with you in everything else.
The RRHOF is the equivalent of MLBHOF if MLBHOF included Michael Jordan, Danny Ainge, Tom Brady, Wayne Gretzky, Pele, Herb Washington, etc,etc,etc...............!
Pete, nice Hexagon graphic... have you been watching WandaVision by any chance? The list of bands who deserve to be in this and haven't been given the respect they deserve is incredibly long... a bunch have already been listed below and I agree with all of them and all of yours too. Cheers!
It’s only a matter of time until Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Kesha, Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers, One Direction, Luke Bryan, Florida Georgia Line, Dam and Shay, Sam Hunt, Kane Brown, Cole Swindell, Pit Bull, T-Pain, and Flo Rida are all gonna be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I honestly wouldn’t put it past them..
@@Jamie.Laszlo David Gilmour would be more appropriate, since he "discovered" her. Or maybe one her other good friends like John Lydon or Peter Gabriel
I've been screaming for Maiden for years. We all know they deserve to be in, and at least 15 years ago. I'd love to see them get in but, then again, I'd have nothing to complain about - except that so many non rockers are in. Still, I'd be shocked if they do make it, feel it's just a token nomination because we all know they don't want to see them play 22 Acacia Avenue. Will always be my fave band regardless of their consistent shunning. Good stuff as always Pete. Would love to see the Dolls get in just because they were kinda KISS before KISS. As far as your top 5, I agree but would still love to see the Dolls also.
The R&R HOF is run by the same guys who run Rolling Stones Magazine. It makes sense why they haven't even been considered, considering these asswipes always despised Toto. But they should really get in the hall.
I doubt they get in. They should get in but the hall in general hates metal. I mean it took Black Sabbath 10 years when they should have gone in the first time.
The RRHOF is irrelevant when bands/artists like Thin Lizzy, Kansas, Priest, Foreigner, Alan Parsons Project and Robin Trower are not in the HOF
The RRHOF is irrelevant. And you - or anybody else - bothering about it, is very un- rocknroll
APP and Foreigner my favs.
EL&P
No Foeigner?!?!
Fuck rrhof
Steppenwolf
If they just changed the name to the " Music Hall of Fame " I'm sure a lot less people be mad
the United States Music Hall of Fame then, because they rarely look across the border
Yeah. Rock and roll is just a blanket term for pop music now. People take this too seriously.
Exactly.
Even then it's iffy because it would lack jazz and other genres. Also, it's way too US centric.
The R&R HOF doesn't have Country artists in as they have their own HOF. They should follow the same rule for R&B and Rap acts. It's called rock and roll!
There is a guy out there who has had more hits than the Beatles and The Rolling Stones put together and his backing band who had 33 hits on their own - Cliff Richard and the Shadows. Never nominated. The man invented rock and roll in England and The Shadows inspired the entire generation of British guitarists in the 60's (and Neil Young and Randy Bachman!). Should have been in the hall of fame from Day 1.
He would be a good choice
Excellent comment and glad you mentioned that Cliff & The Shads were so important in their early years. Without them there would be no Beatles or Stones (even if they don't admit it themselves).
@@snowfiresunwind - without Cliff, there would be no Beatles - I think the Beatles would have made it all by themselves without any help from anyone - they may have been influenced by others but I am guessing Cliff Richard wasn't one of them, although I agree Cliff has done well - hell he's lasted 6 decades.
@@Londoneye57 There wouldn't have been the British rock and roll industry to discover the Beatles without Richard. Had the been discovered at all, the would have been shuffled aside into light entertainment.
@@Londoneye57 Fair comment but the point I tried to make here is that Cliff/Shads were the first UK group to have a true authentic RnR sound that perfectly captured the spirit of all the artists that were among those that influenced the Beatles/Stones and I think the Shads sound/format particularly must have inspired the Beatles (or Harrison at least - remember Cry for a Shadow?) to realise that it was possible for a UK group to play American music while at the same time giving it a Brit stampmark as well as it being possible to actually make a living out of performing it.
The early UK RnR years are an interesting topic and I don't believe Cliff and the Shads get enough credit for their influence during that period.
From this list? Ok.
Iron Maiden-Todd Rundgren-Carole King-The Go-Go’s-Tina Turner
fuck the go gos they had 3 good songs thats it they shouldnt even b nominated devo yes there legends not 3 hit wonders
@EVILNEVERDIES 666 sorry I’m not feeling Devo at all....
In terms of longevity, influence and album sales surely Jethro Tull should have been inducted years ago!
That's probably the biggest joke concerning RRHF, along with Todd, that Tull's still ignored...
I said it last year and ill say it again, lets see a SEA OF TRANQUILITY HALL OF FAME. Get the panel together for a list of nominees and have the audience vote a few in with polls. Do it every year. It would be awesome. The RnR HOF is a joke make a SOT HOF Pete.
Great idea, I totally agree. Pete would be great at setting it up.
Yes! We vote for the proper music!
That would be a lot of fun and something happy for us.
This would be a dope panel discussion, everyone brings in ten, then they have to vote for who doesn't deserve it, wittle down the field from say 70 to 21 and FIGHT.
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I wrote up a much longer comment last year breajing down a plan but either no one cared or it was shadowbanned/spam. I'm sure Pete is always looking for new topics so i would make this an annual thing. Id have the panel come up with the nominees probably a few per decade (or maybe 10 per decade) and they all have a discussion then the fans vote in polls for the band (s) to be inducted by each decade(60s, 70s, 80s, 90s). So possibly 2 bands per decade, that's 8 bands per year. This way it is truly a real credible Hall Of Excellence as Pete put it. This could be an ongoing show for the next ten years. Put in 5 or ten bands per year and eventually youll have 50 or 100 bands. The panel wpuld be fine with the selections as they make all the nominations and we the fans vote on who goes in first. SOT guarantees no weak nominations and we make the final picks. Id probably split it into two categories, ROCK or METAL. Not a million subgenres just something to separate the Bad Companys from the Slayers. Everyone on the panel picks 1 rock & 1 metal band per decade. Look at what Martin Popoff does with banger tv albums of the year. Possibly Have the fans nominate 1 band per year the panel doesnt pick in the comment section. For example say someone on the panel picks Bad Company & Black Sabbath in the 70s and Uriah Heep gets overlooked well maybe they get pushed in by fan votes. It would be a lot of work but itd be fun & Pete would learn about his audience and what they like most and maybe he can top it off with some guest interviews & book giveaways or something.
Real panel + real fans = real hard rock Hall Of Greatness.
Once again Blue Oyster Cult gets forgotten.
The band members said that over the years, they had crossed some of the cronies that run the RnRHoF, so they will never get in. Who really cares about the RnRHoF anyway? BOC's music speaks for itself.
No Bad Company, Big Star, The Guess Who, Hüsker Dü, Mötorhead, or Three Dog Night. Big disappointment.
I love all of those bands. It's really at the point of absurdity that so many rock legends have not been inducted. If there is no place in the Hall for at least some of the bands that you listed, then the RRHOF really doesn't mean anything to me anymore. Alex Chilton and Lemmy, not in the Hall? Ridiculous!
You missed UFO too!
agreed when in was in hs guess who and king 3 dog night where huge
The Guess Who and 3 Dog Night both had a ton of hits and sold a lot of records at the end of the 60's and into the mid 70's.
I like your list. I was just reading about Three Dog Night and how they were the biggest act of the early 70s and how huge they were. All great acts.
The Rock n Roll hall doesn't really make any sense. Jay Z..? LL Cool J..? Might as well throw Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath in the Rap Hall of Fame if there even is such a thing.
you took the words right out of my mouth. In the U.K we have the music of black origin awards which I find stupid as isn't all modern music of black origin if you go back?
@@krissymarklewis1793 awards created by box ticking lefties. Who cares what colour you are if the music is actually good and requires at least SOME talent?
@@Cobra21245 exactly!
I disagree. Rap is specific. Rock n Roll is not. It is a general term. Rock, hard rock, heavy metal - those are more specific terms. Everyone is so caught up in the term “rock n roll”. There are jazz artists like Miles Davis, country artists like Johnny Cash, folk artists like Joan Baez, rap artists like Run DMC, and pop artists like Madonna, all in the Hall of Fame, and deservedly so. They don’t mean rock n roll as specifically ‘rock’ artists who only play guitar and drums. It’s all great artists who’ve made an impact in the rock n roll era, meaning all popular music after the creation of rock n roll in the 50s. There was jazz and big band and traditional gospel and American folk, and then in the 50s there was something else, thanks to Bill Haley, Little RichArd, Buddy Holly, Elvis, Ray Charles, and many more, which everything we have today came from. So if you don’t want Whitney Houston, then you can’t have Smokey Robinson or Marvin Gaye or Diana Ross. Do you really want those artists to not be in the rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame? Anyone in popular music who’s made an impact should be welcome.
@PGK 878 I agree, but personal taste shouldn’t matter. You can’t argue his impact on music. They should put more in each year, like 10 or 12, spread the love a little. And 25 years is too soon, move it to 30. Too many artists still not in that need to be before foo fighters, rage, and jay z. Creed and Nickelback will be eligible next year. God what a nightmare that would be. When people get too upset about this issue, it smacks a little bit prejudicial since Rock music is a predominantly white form of music. I’m fine if someone wants to start a Rock Hall or Heavy Metal Hall, but the term rock n roll is rather all genre encompassing.
Pat Benatar ? Can’t believe she didn’t make it.
i can't understand how she isn't in there. she should've been in before joan jett. but joan jett is seen as "cooler" i think these days.
If I could I would give 10,000 likes on this!
I've been shouting that from the rooftops!!!!
@@doodooman841 Me too
I’ll be voting for Kate Bush, Iron Maiden, Tina Turner, Devo, and Carole King. I think they should change the eligibility number to 30 years. Too many artists still need in before foo fighters, rage , and jay z. It’s too soon.either that or change the number of inductees every year to 10 or 12, and spread the wealth a little in regards to age, significance and genre, so everything gets representation. I mean Jesus. Creed will be eligible next year. Nickelback is eligible now! That can’t happen!
No Jethro Tull or ELP really bites. But then again, Jay-Z is the true essence of rock and roll.
Absolutely ridiculous. But that’s why the HOF is a joke.
are you serious or joking? what's so rock about a damn guy mumbling and rapping? WTF
Wrong
Yeah, but the problem is, ELP sucks.
Remember that great guitar solo on every Jay-Z song? Yeah me neither.
I'm pretty sure Carole King is already in, as a song writer. This one would probably be for her own music catalogue. Tapestry is, of course, legendary and should qualify her by itself.
@@theshowycaesarshow9257 1 album isn't worthy.
hey steve hows it going?
There's a Hip Hop Hall of Fame, a Soul Music Hall of Fame, Country Music Hall of Fame, etc., etc., etc...
Does anyone want to guess how many "rock" artists are in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame? The answer might not suprise you: Zero. Zilch. Notta. It's 100% hip hop artists.
But for some reason (political? financial? personal?) the Rock Hall of Fame is uniquely open to nominations from all musical genres. I mean I sometimes enjoy the cross-pollination of rock with other musical styles, but it's a bit maddening to see how the Rock Hall is run when the other Halls stick with the categories they were intended to honor.
I knew about the country one and heard rumors of the others but yeah. Honestly, this is time to create new halls, maybe run by fans or bands in those genres. The RnR is run by industry executives which is why Jay-Z is probably going in, while Iron Maiden probably won't.
@foot bru That's a weird place for that but no surprise.
You are absolutely spot on with your comments! Should be in this year: Carole King, Todd Rundgren, Tina Turner, Go-Go's for sure. Then maybe a toss up between Rage and Chaka. Most of these artists should have been inducted long ago. Who is most likely to get in? (based on their misguided pics in the past) Probably Jay-Z, Foo Fighters, Mary J, LL Cool J, and New York Dolls. As you say, much of the list is not R&R and some others have not paid their dues long enough.
How the hell are Grand Funk Railroad not in there? It is just a joke at this point.
How about that. They are amazing. I continue to be stunned by who has never made it. EL&P should be. Shameful list overall
Bad Company. Mott the Hoople. And Grand Funk
I am a huge Todd Rundgren fan and as many have observed he is long over due for this...honor? Not sure if Todd feels it would be that. I’m also a huge Roxy Music fan and if you asked 10 people on the street, in the US at least, if they heard of Roxy Music you would get a lot of “ive heard of Rock Music, is that what you mean?” Todd’s catalogue is extensive, varied, and decades long. As an innovator and multi instrumental, multi genre artist there are few who hold a candle to him.
Definitely both Todd and Roxy Music, James. Roxy Music's first 4 albums are as good as anybody's first four in rock, in my view. With Todd, you've got Runt, A Wizard a True Star, Todd (the double album), Something Anything, and Faithfull (they're just the ones I'm familiar with. I also know Todd Rundgren's Utopia but, frankly,I wouldn't place it as highly as those others I've mentioned). As well as the qualities that you rightly mention above, I would also add his production skills (esp. on Wizard). You may be familiar with some of Todd's other albums that you would recommend. Regards.
@@tonyanderton3521 Sure Tony. First, I don't know of a "bad" Todd or Utopia album so I'll try to give a few of my favs that you haven't listed here without siting the entire catalogue. I have seen him over 50 times and have had the pleasure of meeting and talking with him a number of times over the years. Between his solo work, the Nazz albums and Utopia there are over 40 releases to choose from. If you are a fan of AWATS and Todd you HAVE to give Initiation (Bearsville Records 1975) and The Hermit of Mink Hollow ('78) a listen; The live "Back to the Bars" (recorded during week-long stints at The Bottom Line (NY), The Roxy (LA), and Cleveland (The Agora). Of course the first Utopia album (75) and the live "Another Live"...the list can go on and on. I know Pete has done a few shows ranking/rating both Todd's solo and Utopia.
@@jameshannon3067 James, thanks, that's an amazing reply. You certainly seem to know your Todd Rundgren. I'm certainly now going to get in to Initiation, The Hermit of Mink Hollow, and Back to the Bars. Many thanks again, and best wishes from England.
I would love it for Kate to be in an SOT Hall of Excellence. Hounds of Love is such a great piece of work.
Hounds of love album is a masterpiece. Kate is beloved rightly so, a true visionary. I like to see singer songwriter hall of fame, Carol king and Todd and of course Kate bush would be there.
I love the gos gos, but I think suzi quatro and the runaways should be in there , they paved the way for them, I know Joan Jett is already in, which is great, but I think Pat Benetar is just as deserving.
More than deserving.
Pat benatar definity.
Good God, The Go Go’s??? That they are even nominated to me is a shock! Pat Benatar has a better catalogue of songs, hits and albums, a more stunning voice and longevity. I think The Bangles are infinitely more talented than the Go Go’s. When you question who is nominated and who gets in, remember the guy who runs Rolling Stone magazine. It’s all political, folks.
@@DCToonTime Totally agree that Benatar is sorely underrated. And when Go-Go’s resurface, it’s a big commotion. Meanwhile, Benatar has been playing joints and casinos w/ her husband for the past 20 years. I guess you have to go silent for a decade, in order to “come back”.
Pat for dam sure!!
Rock and Roll originally meant fucking. I suggest the sooner we get back to making it all about that again, the better.
It should be called Jann Wenner’s music Hall of Fame. Regardless of how good you are, if he doesn’t like you, you don’t get in. So many artist who are not in and should be. Like UFO, Humble Pie, Ten Years After, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Robin Trower Johnny Winter. Just to name a few. Plus, the artists who are in, that don’t belong because their music is not classified as rock n roll. There are way too many to list. Look how long it took Deep Purple to get in. They should have been in one of the first groups to be inducted. The rock hall is a joke.
Someone who has real taste in music needs to open a real Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
Tull, man. Tull.
Jan finally resigned from the committee a few years ago to spend more time with his boyfriend so there has been a cavalcade of bands he did not like getting in the last few years like Deep Purple, Cheap Trick etc. Your list of examples here is PERFECT, every single one of them are classic examples of that pretentious d-bag blocking them getting in.
@@johnkolko5199 Thanks for the info. I didn’t realize that he stepped down. That may explain how T.Rex and the Doobies got in, last year.
I assume Wenner still has some influence because how else did Whitney Houston and Notorious B.I.G. get in? They may be popular artist but not in the category of Rock & Roll. Especially with some many other artists who are more deserving of the honor.
@@stoneyj.5538 It wasnt just him driving the selections, it was pretty much Rolling Stone Magazines. crew, so Wenner is gone but it is still run by a group of pretentious elitists. But at least some of the bands Wenner was personally blocking have gotten in. I always said it was the Rolling Stone Magazine Hall of Fame, not R&R. Your initial comment echoes my thoughts exactly. It would be nice if they revamped it and did a catch up year where the class was a group of bands you listed all got in plus some metal bands like Maiden, Priest, Motorhead, Megadeth and Slayer too, Wont happen but it would be nice,
I remember Eddie Trunk once said that Priest should be inducted before Maiden, which I agree with.
Absolutely.. Priest before Maiden..
@@jaspergillgannon4991 Priest was an influence on Maiden.Took them out as opening act in America to help break them here.
ET is prolly right although I have my bias towards IM. The fact that neither are in is a travesty
the foo fighters will probably get in (Dave is pretty connected). Maiden should have been in 15 years ago (First year of eligibility).
Be a miracle if Maiden gets in after they passed on Priest, Motörhead, and Thin Lizzy last year.
I prefer those three bands to Maiden tbh
Love all four of them and they should all be in,and maiden at the top for me.
I couldn’t care two hoots about the RRHF but if I had to choose, I’d say Kate Bush, Carole King, Tina Turner and Dione Warwick. All fabulous singers in different ways, all have had long and varied careers.
The Hall of Fame is a clique for the popular kids. It does nothing to validate music.
Well said
Let me please make a case for Boston. First, the obvious: The Debut is as Classic as it gets. It's as perfect as it gets with every song getting rotation on FM radio for decades. It has a CLASSIC single in More than a Feeling. Like Kirk Gibson's dramatic home run in the '88 series, this alone should be enough to get you in the HOF. But let's talk about sales. The debut has sold over 20 million. One hit wonder? NO! Don't Look Back, while maligned at the time, is actually a great sophomore effort which went to #1 on the Billboard Hot 200 AND had a #4 single in the title track. It has sold over 7 million. Then we have Third Stage and its #1 successes. If sales and popularity are a factor, Boston has sold tons more than the Go Gos (who I also love....and are definitely worthy of induction). Now for what separates Boston from the other "Corporate Rock" bands (stupid term I'm using just as a reference- people who can't hear the difference between Styx, REO, Journey, Foreigner and Boston are Morons). The story behind the band is a true American rags to riches story. One man working in his basement wrote, produced and invented a sound that was never heard before. He found a singer and a drummer to finish a demo which was rejected by all the major record companies. Luck plays a role in having this demo be discovered and the band takes the nation by storm. At at time when Disco ruled the charts, Boston added a heavy yet melodic sound and the rest became history. Out of it all, we get all that great music, classic singles and albums, sales up the ying yang, solid influence for a number of bands including Nirvana, and the emergence of one of the greatest vocalists in the history of Rock! Isn't that enough? No, wait, I forgot to mention that this one man band, Tom Scholz, also invented the Rockman which also changed the rock scene through the '80s. Am I wrong? How can this band NOT be in the HOF???
Exactly
BINGO
Maiden needs to get in. I can’t believe that some of those other options are even considered.
Greatest metal band of all-time in my book. And of course, in many, many people's books.
@@kforcer Sabbath, Maiden & Priest. The Unholy Trinity of Metal along w Motorhead should have all been no brainers in their first year of eligibility. Then later Slayer & Megadeth to go w Metallica.
@@johnkolko5199 I'd put Dio in before Slayer, Megadeth and Metallica. Would we have power metal as it exists today without Stargazer?
@@kforcer Love Dio but to me, he doesnt hold a candle to those bands. Just my opinion. I liked his work in Rainbow more than his solo work . Was not a fan if the Dio led Sabbath, found their music kind of boring. Not to rip on Ronnie but think Slayer and Megadeth are miles ahead of Dio.
@@johnkolko5199 I hear you. We differ pretty strongly here; Dio is one of my favorites of all-time but on the other hand, if Slayer comes on, I'm changing the channel or tuning out. Not surprisingly, Dio's era of Sabbath is far and away my favorite (though I dig Tony Martin's stuff). I do like Megadeth though. But not in the same way I like Dio (they are great though, don't get me wrong).
Love him or hate him though, I think he's had a major influence. But hey, metal heads don't have to agree on everything.
I would put UFO, Scorpions and Y&T in.
Y&T is a bit of a stretch IMO.
Maybe a bit of a stretch. But they have been around a very long time. What! No one likes them.
Yes!
@@Paulthediecastguy Earthshaker is a killer album.
Too quote Meatlof, 2 out of 3 aint bad. Replace Y&T with Thin Lizzy.
Tommy Bolin, Wishbone Ash, Vanilla Fudge, Rory Gallagher, Gary Moore, Jimmy Vaughn/Thunderbirds,, Cactus, Badfinger, Black Oak Arkansas, King Crimson, Foghat, Poco, Procal Harem, James Gang,............
I would love to see a video with the Hudson Valley Squares where you all list your top 5 artist or bands that aren't in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame that should be, before anyone else.
No king Crimson, Kansas?
The fact that Deep Purple only got inducted in 2016!!! is all you need to know about this Hall of Shame!
And the fact that Rod Evans was Inducted but Nick Simper wasn’t still sticks in my craw.
Damn right!
A Rock & Roll Hall of Fame without Todd Rudgren is a Hall of Shame !!!
Rundgren should have gotten in last year on his list of artists who's albums he produced alone.His work with Utopia and solo was at least a few years ahead of the curve.
I can't count the amount of times I've looked at an album..and was shocked and amazed that Rundgren produced it. He should have been inducted years ago! The man is along the lines of George Martin....
Don't forget when was in Nazz
Kate Bush is the Godmother of Alt/Indie. She's very influential. Adele, Chryssie Hynde & the late Amy Winehouse have cited her as an influence on their music, as have Suzanne Vega, Liz Phair & Tori Amos. She belongs there. She credits oodles of her fame to David Gilmour of Pink Floyd and Peter Gabriel. The former discovered her. She's classified under art-rock. Annie Haslem/Renaissance is one of her influences, fyi. Like Annie, Kate's a soprano with a beautiful voice.
I agree with your picks. Fyi, Carole is already is the Rock Hall as a non-performer/producer, with her ex Gerry Goffin.
Styx, Foreigner, Boston, Priest, Tull, Lizzy, Motorhead, Crimson, ELP, Dan Fogelberg, and so many others got screwed.
I actually love the Go-Go's, especially Belinda.
J Fuckin Z? Can't hold a codpiece to Jethro Tull. Mary K Blige? Can't hold a long Island whitefish to Bad Co.
Bad Company gets sodomized again. Scorpions don't even get a sniff too.
The fact that Tull isn’t in is a joke.
@@rightchordleadership In the 1970s, Jethro Tull were almost as big as Led Zeppelin, and they've continued to be *almost* as big. I've seen 7 Tull concerts, some of the greatest concerts I have ever attended
@@youtubedramafan6376 Which is why I said them not being in the Hall is a joke.
Yeah Mary Jane Bilge WTH?
Grand Funk Railroad while all 3 members are still breathing !!!
They should be in already!
SWEET, deserves to be in the Roll Hall Of Fame and others too!!🎼🎤🎸🎵🥁
That might be a heck of a topic for the 'Hudson Valley Squares', the deserved bands for the SoT Hall of Excellence.
I can’t believe Three Dog Night isn’t in. They had more hit songs on the charts in the early 70’s than anyone ever.
They didn't write anything
Three Dog Night was the Nickelback of the 70s , Equally loved and hated bu listeners.
Hate to bring it to you but they will never get in. Not a critical favorite at all. Not enough really massive success either.
Couldn't care less about that shit...
Having said that Kate Bush, Carole King, Iron Maiden, New York Dolls, Todd Rundgren and Tina Turner are legendary acts, no questions about that.
Of the ones you said, Maiden, Rundgren, and New York Dolls are worthy of induction. Carol King, Kate Bush, and Tina Turner wouldn’t get my vote, however I wouldn’t be up in arms or complaining if any of those 4 made it
Tina Turner is already in HOF with Ike.
@@catsofsherman1316 I guess they are now nominating her as a solo artist.
@@LuchaLibertaria They are, I think Tina is big enough as a solo artist and has enough of a legacy to warrant her own spot
@@alexandergilles8583 tbh Im surprised that she isn't in yet...
You could include Perry Como on that list. He's about as rock 'n roll as half of them.
The biggest omissions to date are Judas Priest and Jethro Tull. Both highly influential bands with impressive bodies of work over decades.
And their recent albums are outstanding too.
@@garygennaro6029 Yes, thanks, Gary.
It doesn’t matter , Jethro Tull is the best progressive rock band ever existed, too sophisticated complex and smart for the CEOs of RRHF to accept this true . The RRHF is nothing for Jethro Tull , they deserve an statue in the music history.
Maybe a topic for the Hudson Valley Squares? The Real Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Put all the artists that are already in the current Hall of Fame together in the Real Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and let each member add three artists that should be included immediately and without any doubt.
Todd and The Dolls hell yes they should be in any hall of fame for ROCK!!!!
I really like when you talk about this. I hope you do 2022 too.
I think Slade and Status Quo should be in there. Quo huge all over the world except in the U.S. Sold tons of records.
Slade were fucking awesome!!!
Its a american choice, and panel, whats popular over there thats why.
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Bollocks to them!
@@davehoward22 I'm sure, since it should be called the American R-n-R HOF. If you weren't popular in the U.S. you will never get in no matter how big you were in other countries. Which band was picked to open Live Aid.
I can’t understand how Iron Maiden, a massive successful global band with amazing live shows and killer records are not in. This Organization-is a JOKE! and your right they probably wont get in but I hope somehow they do
Bruce has said a few times, he doesn't want to be in and he'd probably refuse to go and turn it down were they inducted.
Pete, start a fan chosen Hall of Fame. Each year induct 10 or 20 artists...just a thought. Thanks for your show!
This is a great idea, and something Pete would do well. Get the viewers to send their nominations, then get the Hudson Valley Squares to discuss the nominees. I'm sure they could even get a nice award trophy commissioned. Plenty of designers etc... watch this channel I'm sure.
Except then the only bands inducted would be metal. Then we'd have the same problem. Progressive bands would still be out in the cold.
At this point, I'm SHOCKED that Soundgarden has yet to be nominated 😠
They were nominated last year..
Why? Its not a real HOF. Its total BS
My favorites since the 80s usually get ugnored....Jane's, Pumpkins, Living Colour, King's X, Ministry, etc. NIN got in, maybe the Pumpkins do eventually, who knows. That doesn't even touch on the absolute legendary had rock and metal bands that aren't in, true embarrassments to the industry. Jann isn't in control any more, but that same hatred continues for all things heavy. continyes.
I'm pretty sure they were on the list last time and they came in like number five or six in the fan vote only.
@@l.t.w8985 The fan vote gets largely ignored in the final selection it seems.
Can't believe the names not in. Rory fucking Gallagher! Priest, Tin Lizzy, damn man, crazy shit
Rory didn't care about fame he wouldn't want to be there.
Should be in by now... Grand Funk Railroad, The Guess Who, Steppenwolf, Sparks, The Monkees, Blue Oyster Cult, Humble Pie, Three Dog Night, Bachman Turner Overdrive, etc...
Hey Pete, I was surprised to hear you give the Go-Go's a thumbs up. I have always been a fan & I've always caught shit from some of my metal friends because of it. Great band, a lot of great songs.
Belinda the girls are just fun man always have been. I even thought Go-Go's light The Bangles were fun too Suzanna hoffs and the girls they Rock too I caught lots of shit from that thru the years 🤣🤣
Add me to the list! I love all them ladies!
great rant as always...i just cannot believe that tull still isn't in there....what a disgrace.....peace pardo....rocky
Total disgrace
i dont believe this they denied bad company yet again pete what a miscarriage of justice.
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BAD COMPANY is like the definition of "Rock and Roll"... Insane they haven't been nominated. Ridiculous!
The “rock” part needs to go. People tell me rock n till is a lifestyyyylle maaaaaan.
Yeah and it’s also a sound dumb dumb. Jay Z, LL, Mary J ARE NOT RNR
I don't think Metallica is in the Soul Hall Of Fame...rightfully s
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Nobody is more Rock‘n‘Roll than LL Cool J. Just kidding...😆 Their nominations get more ridiculous every year.
@@lionheartroar3104 otis, marvin, stevie, the temptations, ray and little richard are all in the rnr hall of fame though 🤷♂️
@@lionheartroar3104 call it.
Music Hall of Fame. Problem solved
In case you didn’t know (which obviously you don’t), the Hall of Fame covers ALL genres of music. With that said, Mary J Blige & Jay-Z do not belong there. But it seems like you have a real problem with hip hop and soul in general. But then again, if you think Kansas and Jethro Tull should be inducted, I just can’t take you seriously.
It’s a joke, but looking at this list, Maiden, Rundgren, New York Dolls, Carol King, Kate Bush, and Tine Turner are all yeses. Some more enthusiastic yeses than others but all of those acts I feel are worthy of a spot. The only other ones I’m torn with are RATM and Foo Fighters. I love RATM (forget the politics, we’re here for the music), but I don’t know if they’ve got the kind of influence and legacy. I don’t know with them. Foo Fighters on the other hand, I’m not a fan of, but I recognize that they’ve been one of the biggest rock bands of the last 25 years, so from a commercial and legacy perspective, you can definitely make a case for them. The rest I range from not knowing enough to comment, to emphatic no’s
Just my two cents
I'd say RATM definately had a musical legacy/influence. Most of that nu-metal shit was a dumbed down version of RATM/Clawfinger.
And David Gilmour discovered Kate Bush, why not put in Wishbone Ash who keep going even now, how about 50 years since Layla, Derek and the Dominoes
Obviously Iron Maiden are great but I have to pronounce my love for Kate Bush. She is amazing. The basis of her music is rock (normally she is classified as art rock or art pop).
Rolling Stone Magazine hall of fame. The hall of fame committees interests drifted away from rebellious rock music decades ago. I do not expect them to take judas priest, iron maiden, or motorheads music at face value. "Every five years put a rocker band in and have them close the show." I hate their mindset.
You’ve hit the nail on the head about this Pete. It’s become the Music Hall of Fame- not the Rock Hall of Fame!!! It just waters down & dilutes the whole the whole thing!!! Just a travesty!! 😭😭😭😭
Music Hall of Fame favoring US acts as well, with album sales being the biggest criteria, complete joke.
DEVO had two platinum albums. They are more than the "Whip It" band. Very influential in the world of music video as well. I agree with you about Foo Fighters and Rage.
There's tons of DEVO closet fans
Because DEVO is not your run of the mill mainstream Music
They are too advanced
Like The are Time Travelers from the Future !!
@Smash Machine
For 2022
1 Judus Priest
2 .MC5
3 Euroritmics
4 Kate Bush
5 DEVO
Kate Bush, Devo, Iron Maiden, Todd Rundgren, Go-go’s
Go Go’s before Pat Benatar 🙄
Go Gos need to get in simply because they hold the distinction of being the first all female band to have a #1 album with songs written by themselves. The fact that they are not in yet is an incredible lapse by the P.C. Rock Hall.
FYI: Todd Rundgren produced the NY Dolls first album, too.
Correction: You incorrectly state that the Dolls only recorded two albums; actually, the band reformed in 2006 (with two original members; David Johansen and Syl Sylvain), and put out five more albums (three studio, two live), the first of which, One Day It Will Please Us to Remember Even This, is just as good as the first two. Their follow up, 'Cause I Sez So, produced by Todd Rundgren as well, and Dancing Backwards in High Heels, their fourth, I haven't checked out yet, but both garnered positive reviews (All Music says 'Cause I Sez So sounds more like a David Johansen solo album, so take that for what it's worth).
The live album from the Bowery is fierce and raw; down and dirty in NYC just as it should be. The other live album, recorded in London in 2004, which also featured original bassist Arthur "Killer" Kane just a few months before he died from leukemia, I also haven't checked out yet because I didn't know it existed. However, it was the success of this show with led to new studio albums, so naturally it must be great as well.
Naturally, I love the Dolls and would love to see them honored. Post NY Dolls, we should consider that Johnny Thunders' record with the Heartbreakers, L.A.M.F., and his solo album So Alone, are both classic rock and roll, and David's first solo album is scorching hot as well, so their influence didn't cease in 1974. That being said, I am also a huge fan of Blue Oyster Cult, and if I had to choose between the two, I'd let them have it for sure.
Still no BÖC in there huh? Sad
Rock stations in the 80s, 90s, early 2000s would only play 2 or 3 songs from their catalog. Reaper, Burnin, and maybe Godzilla. Zilch from their arguably best album 'Secret Treaties'.
The RRHOF obviously has a lack of respect for the cowbell. RIP Gene Frenkle!!! Seriously, I love BOC and they should be in. Cities on Flame.........
Maiden, Kate Bush, Carole King, Tina, Go Gos.Ladies night plus eddie.
One of the other comments here gave me an idea: what we need is a huge campaign to get Gentle Giant in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!
Hey Pete! It's gotta happen. Can we do our own voting on an annual Sea Of Tranquility Hall of Exellence like you touched upon? I think it would be great for us all to have a REAL hall of fame for our beloved bands! Maybe a winning member of said band could come on the show and collect a prize! If they are still alive 😂 We could all vote for best band overall, and best category. Best guitarist, bassist, drummer etc. What do you think 🤔? At least put it out there to us all. We know what music really is! Thanks.
Worst excuse for "rock and roll" hall of fame ever, screw them
Amen brother!!
“ I wanna Rock you out” by LL Cool J is cool. Mary J Blige’s “ I’m so ugly but they still gave me a record deal” is and Dionne Warwick’s “I’ll never watch inductions again”- all great!
Let’s not forget those rockers- Bel Biv Devoe.
The thing about the RRHOF is that the people in charge don't have a clue of music. They should be industry experts, not the clowns they have.
It‘s still a mystery to me why british rock legends Status Quo are so much ignored in the USA but still loved in the rest of the world. They’re in the business since 1965 and still rockin‘...
It is an absolute disgrace that Rory Gallagher is not in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame.
He is " Like a Bad Penny" that's the problem.Fantastic music.
My list of bands that should be in;
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Motörhead
Thin Lizzy
Sweet
Boston
Reo Speedwagon
Styx
Foreigner
Sound garden
Alice In Chains
Bad Company
Blue Oyster Cult
Ozzy Osbourne (Solo)
Sammy Hagar (solo)
Ronnie James Dio (His entire career)
Pat Benatar
Jethro Tull
Slayer
Megadeth
Grand Funk Railroad
Ted Nugent
Motley Crue
The Guest Who
Scorpions
UFO
SteppenWolf
Kansas
What do you all think?
Priest is in
Foo Fighters??? Even though they're more worthy than half of the proposed artists; they haven't done anything significant, nor are they history worthy.
Yeah, but they'll get in because they're popular with the masses. Cult bands like Sonic Youth or Big Star, despite being fairly influential will always struggle unfortunately...
@@ianrobinson4200 I believe the phrase "Corporate Goatblowers" is used in reference to them in a comment below. Seems about right.
An A-Z of fave bands/singers not yet in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (but should be):
Ambrosia, Asia
Bad Company, Badfinger, Boston
The Charlatans UK
Devo
Eurythmics
Foreigner, Free
Grass Roots, Guess Who
Humble Pie, Ian Hunter
It’s A Beautiful Day
Jethro Tull
King Crimson, Kinks, Kraftwerk
Jeff Lorber Fusion
Mott The Hoople
Harry Nilsson
Ohio Players, Oingo Boingo
Procol Harum
Quicksilver Messenger Service
Renaissance, Todd Rundgren
Steppenwolf, Supertramp, Sweet
10cc, Thin Lizzy, Three Dog Night
UFO, U.K.
Wall Of Voodoo, War
X
Yellow Magic Orchestra
Warren Zevon
Bruce has said a few times he doesn't want to be in and he'd refuse to go and turn it down if they were inducted.
Really??? Bruce Hornsby said that???
Sincerely hope that Maiden get the award this year and then as they take the stage with the organisers expecting 3 to 4 minutes of "Run to the Hills" or "Number of the Beast" Bruce announces "this is what not to do when your bird sh*ts on you!" and they get the full length version of "Rime"!
T'would be awesome!
At some point in the future the nominees will be Frankie Goes to Hollywood,..Adam Ant,.....Milli Vanilli,.....,...Bananarama,.....and Tiny Tim.
You forgot Vanilla Ice.
HOW could you NOT mention TACO? His version of "Puttin' on the Ritz" is the stuff of legend!
How about the Archies or maybe Josie and the Pussycats...
Tina Turner is already in with Ike. That was her most rockin period. She doesn't really need another spot. No Tull? WTF?
Yeah, her solo stuff isn't rock other than the occasional duet.
Tull will never get in
@@rightchordleadership why would Tull never get in? They are far more deserving than many already in.
@@catsofsherman1316 I agree but jann wenner doesn’t like them.
There is enough Money in Hip Hop for them to build there own Hall Of Fame. There is NO reason why there should not be a Hip Hop Hall of Fame. That being said....Can you imagine the blow back if a Rock Band was nominated to be in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame?
Agreed but don't think it would happen if there was such a thing like one person in hip hop / rap cares about rock and metal that's ice t other than him people in rap wouldn't piss on a great rock band if they were on fire. Idk that is just my opinion
The thing about the NY Dolls is "Too Litlle Too Late" (got the reference?). Only David Johansen is alive, Sylvain Sylvain died a month ago and the other 3 members are dead for quite sometime. RRHF missed the opportunity. They even released 3 post 2000 albums, but - although good ones - they don't count as NY Dolls proper albums (in my opinion). I'm with you in everything else.
i personally love Iron Maiden, Devo, Jay-Z, The Go-Go’s, Foo Fighters, Rage Against The Machine, and New York Dolls.
Totally agree with your top five. That would be my top 5. absolutely
Every year I think the Baseball Hall of Fame selection is a total joke
And then the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame comes along and says "hold my beer"
The RRHOF is the equivalent of MLBHOF if MLBHOF included Michael Jordan, Danny Ainge, Tom Brady, Wayne Gretzky, Pele, Herb Washington, etc,etc,etc...............!
@@jamescarter3130 Don't forget Tim Tebow LOL
@@jamescarter3130 you could argue for MJ because he did play Pro Baseball for a year and a half. :)
Pete, nice Hexagon graphic... have you been watching WandaVision by any chance? The list of bands who deserve to be in this and haven't been given the respect they deserve is incredibly long... a bunch have already been listed below and I agree with all of them and all of yours too. Cheers!
TODD RUNDGREN Definitely
I agree with you, “ Pete”!! Spot-On!! 🎼🎤🎸🎵🥁
Iron Maiden, Kate Bush, Todd Rundgren, Go Go's, Tina Turner.
DEVO!!!
Great picks!!!
TT is all over Zappas "Overnight Sensation"...that qualifies....
DEVO
It’s only a matter of time until Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Kesha, Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers, One Direction, Luke Bryan, Florida Georgia Line, Dam and Shay, Sam Hunt, Kane Brown, Cole Swindell, Pit Bull, T-Pain, and Flo Rida are all gonna be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I honestly wouldn’t put it past them..
Maiden and Kate Bush should have been there years ago!
Yes! Those are the only two I’m definitely voting for.
I'm calling my shot right now:
If Kate Bush gets in...Tori Amos inducts her.
Exactly! 👍
@@Jamie.Laszlo David Gilmour would be more appropriate, since he "discovered" her. Or maybe one her other good friends like John Lydon or Peter Gabriel
I've been screaming for Maiden for years. We all know they deserve to be in, and at least 15 years ago. I'd love to see them get in but, then again, I'd have nothing to complain about - except that so many non rockers are in. Still, I'd be shocked if they do make it, feel it's just a token nomination because we all know they don't want to see them play 22 Acacia Avenue. Will always be my fave band regardless of their consistent shunning.
Good stuff as always Pete. Would love to see the Dolls get in just because they were kinda KISS before KISS.
As far as your top 5, I agree but would still love to see the Dolls also.
For me, in case anyone really cares, these are my picks of the group:
DEVO
Iron Maiden
The Go-Go's
Todd Rundgren
New York Dolls
ME TOO!!!!
(but I'd put Rundgren in all caps).
@@laustcawz2089 For 2022
1 Judus Priest
2 MC5
3Eroumthics
4Kate Bush
5 DEVO
I am voting for Devo, Iron Maiden, The Go Go's, Foo Fighters and Tina Turner
Just a reminder that Toto have still never been nominated. Tells you all you need to know...
The R&R HOF is run by the same guys who run Rolling Stones Magazine.
It makes sense why they haven't even been considered, considering these asswipes always despised Toto. But they should really get in the hall.
Love "Gut Feeling" by Devo. 5 measures of 4 time that just keeps building!!
The one saving grace for me is that Maiden is getting nominated
il be shocked if they get in tho!!!
I doubt they get in. They should get in but the hall in general hates metal. I mean it took Black Sabbath 10 years when they should have gone in the first time.
@@RadioLaPrincess true they just mention a metal band to look good - but it takes so long then to get in - sabbath shoulve been in straight away
@@williamgainford9332 Exactly. There is no way it should have taken Black Sabbath 10 years.
@@theshowycaesarshow9257 Well maybe they need to rap (sarcasm).
Priest, Maiden, Mercyful Fate/King Diamond, Megadeth, Slayer, Celtic Frost, Queensryche, Kreator, Candlemass, Trouble, \m/💀\m/