Listening to this a second time - there is also a channel called Orthodox Audio (I think if memory serves) they have the total audio of the ‘Philokalia’. Which anyone should probably love who loves Christ and is interested in the mystical church
Not sure what you mean calling your channel "the protestant monastary" and posting this video about receiving the Holy Spirit. St Seraphim was Orthodox, and what he says presupposes that the disciple is baptized into the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic church with the "one baptism". And one cannot redefine these terms to mean what a protestant wants it to mean. I used to be a protestant but I converted to orthodoxy as soon as I realized this truth. I hope you will consider more deeply wat you are learning and also convert, because it will profit you nothing if you do not actually submit to Christ's Church.
In all honesty I'm just a Protestant learning from all Christian traditions. There have been a lot of videos and books I've read that I thoroughly enjoyed so I decided to make a channel where I can just post these things along with my personal edits to have it all in one place. That being said I am very much a Protestant, but I don't like to "throw out the baby with the bath water" there is much wisdom from the early church writings, the Catholic traditions, orthodox traditions and other protestant denominations I may not be a part of. To be clear I do not have a liberal Christian view of "all Christian groups are the same". I believe there are differences and I disagree with them on different matters. But I would be a fool if I just ignored, St Seraphim, St Thomas Aquinas, St Augustine or even someone like Billy Graham, RC Sproul or CS Lewis. All great men I respect (I believe they were all greatly used by God) that of course all disagree with eachother for good reasons on different matters. As I myself would disagree with each of them on different matters while at the same time having been greatly blessed by all.
But with regards to the video, my intentions are simple. I like it, I think it is thought provoking for reasons that you could probably not imagine and would be too long to explain on a comment section. I wanted to listen to it on repeat and thought having the Jesus on repeat under it would be nice. And then I thought I might as well upload it to TH-cam in the off chance someone else wants to listen to this version of it.
@@theprotestantmonastery I'm glad you have posted it. This conversation with Motovilov is always a good listen. May I ask, why are you a protestant? Also, have you heard the apologetics from the EO against protestantism? The arguments sound very clear to me, as there is no protestantism without "Sola scriptura", and this doctrine can be demonstrated to be self refuting and is nowhere present in the early church. I am asking only if perhaps you haven't heard these arguments yet.
@@WoodchuckNorris.8o I'm not too sure who you are referring to but I have ofcourse looked into these things. Although I must admit I only have limited time so I don't know everything. Most conversations or debates against Protestantism that I have heard come from the Catholic side. The only real orthodox apologetics I've heard come from Jay dyer. Besides that I have read orthodox saints and teachings but these were not focused against Protestants. I have also listened to a few teaching sessions of Sam Shamoun who also defended the orthodox side quite well I believe. Sincerely speaking I clearly haven't studied it deeply simply because I never felt the need to. Although I admire and have respect for the orthodox traditions and its saints, it doesn't appeal to me as being the one true church. Its arguments against Catholicism and Protestantism on face value are not appealing to me. In fact the Catholic church seems far more appealing than the orthodox church and I still disagree with it. Anyway I grew up protestant, gave my life to God as a Protestant and have seen the Lord move in my life, my church and my family with miracles, blessings, transformations and demonic deliverance from manifestations followed by the fruits of the Spirit as a Protestant. I am open to being wrong but I couldn't imagine that after all this I would die and be told that actually despite experiencing all that and my personal relationship with the lord that I am still not in the right faith and may go to hell. That to me would simply seem strange that God would allow all those signs miracles and transformation in a place and believe where I shouldn't be and that I shouldn't't hold. I could try give protestant apologetics but I'm not really a Protestant because I was convinced my the reformers or some Pentecostal preacher. At this moment I am a Protestant because of what I mentioned above and because I am not convinced by the Catholic or Orthodox church that I must hold its teachings to be considered part of the body of Christ. I could also not imagine that anyone of those people I mentioned earlier or the men and women of God in my life would be disqualified from the body of Christ despite having done so much work for God's kingdom (as far as I know and can trust by reliable testimony)
@@theprotestantmonastery As a protestant converting to orthodox Christianity, my understanding in orthodoxy is that God can still save those outside the orthodox church who live and walk the faith in God. God can even save those who may have never heard of him, or his son, and God's redemptive plan, if that individual has walked such a way in life that what they have lived reflecting God's will of man, to love and fear God, to love others, and to do good - Cornelius the roman centurion was obviously a pagan and didn't worship God the father knowingly; He was in ignorance not knowing he was praying to false Gods and idols; Yet still the way he lived his life was in the sight of his creator made God have mercy and grace to save Cornelius and reveal himself to him. Even more so, God had mercy on his entire household and his servants. That being said, Orthodoxy is a lived faith, the most ancient Christian tradition and church dating back to the apostles themselves. The liturgy of the Orthodox church is created by St John of Crystosym from the 300 AD's. I was raised catholic and later in life became a protestant for about 6 years - I never once found a church of all the church I went to that reflected the true Christian church I found in scripture, with love, fear of God, reverence, and spiritual mysticism, that the Bible described, until I visited the greek orthodox church I go to now. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, but I will say the biggest reason I decided to convert is because of the ancient foundations of the church, apostolic succession, and the sacrament of the eucharist. Christ made it very clear that the sacrament of the eucharist, the transformation of wine and bread to the real presence of his blood and body, is required to have life in us. Without it, we have no life in us. It is the new covenant for the remission of sins and the church fathers are anonymous that only the priests who have apostolic succession can perform the sacrament of the eucharist. It is something that can only be found in the orthodox and catholic church, as the orthodox acknowledge the catholic sacrament as real but illicit; But neither orthodox or catholic acknowledge protestant eucharists (If they have have it as I think almost all protestant denominations have adopted a symbolic view of the eucharist which is wrong). Regardless, thank you for posting this as it's helping me on my journey as a convert to Orthodox Christianity. God bless you.
The early church on pentecost 33 ad received the holy Ghost. The apostles on Easter Sunday received the holy Ghost. At infant baptism you receive the holy Ghost. All baptisms in acts received the holy Ghost. Don't see them as being opposite of the actor and the receiver but they work in unison , meaning our salvation depends on our remaining in a state of sanctifying grace
May God bless you and give you wisdom! Please don't post as protestant, when mentioning Saint Seraphim, as your misleading is not only damaging you but others
Okay you are learning! Thats great! May God guide you to Orthodoxy!!❤
St Seraphim of Sarov is Orthodox
He is Christian
Thank you for posting this. It was a joy to listen to. Praise and glory to God! Jesus is LORD! 🙏
Listening to this a second time - there is also a channel called Orthodox Audio (I think if memory serves) they have the total audio of the ‘Philokalia’. Which anyone should probably love who loves Christ and is interested in the mystical church
Thanks for posting ☦️
Not sure what you mean calling your channel "the protestant monastary" and posting this video about receiving the Holy Spirit. St Seraphim was Orthodox, and what he says presupposes that the disciple is baptized into the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic church with the "one baptism". And one cannot redefine these terms to mean what a protestant wants it to mean. I used to be a protestant but I converted to orthodoxy as soon as I realized this truth. I hope you will consider more deeply wat you are learning and also convert, because it will profit you nothing if you do not actually submit to Christ's Church.
In all honesty I'm just a Protestant learning from all Christian traditions. There have been a lot of videos and books I've read that I thoroughly enjoyed so I decided to make a channel where I can just post these things along with my personal edits to have it all in one place.
That being said I am very much a Protestant, but I don't like to "throw out the baby with the bath water" there is much wisdom from the early church writings, the Catholic traditions, orthodox traditions and other protestant denominations I may not be a part of.
To be clear I do not have a liberal Christian view of "all Christian groups are the same". I believe there are differences and I disagree with them on different matters. But I would be a fool if I just ignored, St Seraphim, St Thomas Aquinas, St Augustine or even someone like Billy Graham, RC Sproul or CS Lewis. All great men I respect (I believe they were all greatly used by God) that of course all disagree with eachother for good reasons on different matters. As I myself would disagree with each of them on different matters while at the same time having been greatly blessed by all.
But with regards to the video, my intentions are simple. I like it, I think it is thought provoking for reasons that you could probably not imagine and would be too long to explain on a comment section. I wanted to listen to it on repeat and thought having the Jesus on repeat under it would be nice. And then I thought I might as well upload it to TH-cam in the off chance someone else wants to listen to this version of it.
@@theprotestantmonastery I'm glad you have posted it. This conversation with Motovilov is always a good listen. May I ask, why are you a protestant? Also, have you heard the apologetics from the EO against protestantism? The arguments sound very clear to me, as there is no protestantism without "Sola scriptura", and this doctrine can be demonstrated to be self refuting and is nowhere present in the early church. I am asking only if perhaps you haven't heard these arguments yet.
@@WoodchuckNorris.8o I'm not too sure who you are referring to but I have ofcourse looked into these things. Although I must admit I only have limited time so I don't know everything. Most conversations or debates against Protestantism that I have heard come from the Catholic side. The only real orthodox apologetics I've heard come from Jay dyer. Besides that I have read orthodox saints and teachings but these were not focused against Protestants. I have also listened to a few teaching sessions of Sam Shamoun who also defended the orthodox side quite well I believe.
Sincerely speaking I clearly haven't studied it deeply simply because I never felt the need to. Although I admire and have respect for the orthodox traditions and its saints, it doesn't appeal to me as being the one true church. Its arguments against Catholicism and Protestantism on face value are not appealing to me. In fact the Catholic church seems far more appealing than the orthodox church and I still disagree with it.
Anyway I grew up protestant, gave my life to God as a Protestant and have seen the Lord move in my life, my church and my family with miracles, blessings, transformations and demonic deliverance from manifestations followed by the fruits of the Spirit as a Protestant. I am open to being wrong but I couldn't imagine that after all this I would die and be told that actually despite experiencing all that and my personal relationship with the lord that I am still not in the right faith and may go to hell. That to me would simply seem strange that God would allow all those signs miracles and transformation in a place and believe where I shouldn't be and that I shouldn't't hold.
I could try give protestant apologetics but I'm not really a Protestant because I was convinced my the reformers or some Pentecostal preacher. At this moment I am a Protestant because of what I mentioned above and because I am not convinced by the Catholic or Orthodox church that I must hold its teachings to be considered part of the body of Christ.
I could also not imagine that anyone of those people I mentioned earlier or the men and women of God in my life would be disqualified from the body of Christ despite having done so much work for God's kingdom (as far as I know and can trust by reliable testimony)
@@theprotestantmonastery As a protestant converting to orthodox Christianity, my understanding in orthodoxy is that God can still save those outside the orthodox church who live and walk the faith in God. God can even save those who may have never heard of him, or his son, and God's redemptive plan, if that individual has walked such a way in life that what they have lived reflecting God's will of man, to love and fear God, to love others, and to do good - Cornelius the roman centurion was obviously a pagan and didn't worship God the father knowingly; He was in ignorance not knowing he was praying to false Gods and idols; Yet still the way he lived his life was in the sight of his creator made God have mercy and grace to save Cornelius and reveal himself to him. Even more so, God had mercy on his entire household and his servants.
That being said, Orthodoxy is a lived faith, the most ancient Christian tradition and church dating back to the apostles themselves. The liturgy of the Orthodox church is created by St John of Crystosym from the 300 AD's.
I was raised catholic and later in life became a protestant for about 6 years - I never once found a church of all the church I went to that reflected the true Christian church I found in scripture, with love, fear of God, reverence, and spiritual mysticism, that the Bible described, until I visited the greek orthodox church I go to now. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, but I will say the biggest reason I decided to convert is because of the ancient foundations of the church, apostolic succession, and the sacrament of the eucharist. Christ made it very clear that the sacrament of the eucharist, the transformation of wine and bread to the real presence of his blood and body, is required to have life in us. Without it, we have no life in us. It is the new covenant for the remission of sins and the church fathers are anonymous that only the priests who have apostolic succession can perform the sacrament of the eucharist. It is something that can only be found in the orthodox and catholic church, as the orthodox acknowledge the catholic sacrament as real but illicit; But neither orthodox or catholic acknowledge protestant eucharists (If they have have it as I think almost all protestant denominations have adopted a symbolic view of the eucharist which is wrong).
Regardless, thank you for posting this as it's helping me on my journey as a convert to Orthodox Christianity. God bless you.
You don’t receive the Holy Ghost, he receives you.
The early church on pentecost 33 ad received the holy Ghost.
The apostles on Easter Sunday received the holy Ghost.
At infant baptism you receive the holy Ghost.
All baptisms in acts received the holy Ghost.
Don't see them as being opposite of the actor and the receiver but they work in unison , meaning our salvation depends on our remaining in a state of sanctifying grace
May God bless you and give you wisdom! Please don't post as protestant, when mentioning Saint Seraphim, as your misleading is not only damaging you but others