And here I am still with the g29 rubber brake mod 😂 actually what is more interesting is the PlaySeat can handle hard breaking, that's a surprise. Great vid. Subbed.
You need 2 conditions for the PlaySeat to hold its ground, the screws must be really tight on each side of the pedal plate holder, and you must have a sturdy base plate to hold the pedals stable because screwing single pedals like a strong brake pedal might be too much pressure focused on a single point. I've used TLCMs and V3s but IDK if someone uses a 200kg load cell brake the pedal plate will display some unwanted movement.
Do you think a VRS setup is too much for the Trophy even if the wheel base and pedals are dialled down? Or do you think there's still an advantage with VRS dialled down compared to the Alpha Mini and CSL V2?
The VRS base can be quite powerful, I do run a DD1 with 15nm hold and 20nm peak. I've used 90% at times and it create small vibrations but while driving they were barely noticeable , I noticed them more on the video I recorded. About the pedals, due to the nature of the seat, I don't know if using the VRS at the highest settings would actually put too much force in the actifit. I've only used the TLCMs and V3+BPK. And I've had pretty stiff settings on the V3 and atm I feel a bit unsatisfied since I would want to apply more force on the brake pedal. Sometimes I can brake with way too much force and then I lift some of the force on my leg but I'm still braking at 100%. The pedaltray will need an aftermarket pedalplate if you want to bolt pedals because bolting single pedals directly into the Playseat Trophy pedalplate will result in a ton of flex. The design is great but the material is a bit thin and lightweight and the whole cockpit is designed with ease of use in mind. Regarding weaker bases, I wouldn't "downgrade" from my DD1 to any other "less than 10nm" base without expecting a loss in ffb. When the CSL dd released I wanted to save for it... for the boost kit etc... ended up going with "dated" tech but from personal experience the "dated" DD1 performed much better and was a way higher quality product (I've had 2 DD1s with pretty solid QRs without any trouble).
@@caaarlosWill from Boosted Media said there's was a bit of flex with the wheel base which would numb some of the force feed back you would feel. He ran his DD1 at 12nm but I'm not sure if the flex was at 12nm or higher. I didn't know you can get an after market pedal plate for the Trophy I haven't seen them. I still don't know what to do, I'll keep researching.
@@TheDoctor46vrI mean it's just a sheet of thick metal, like most brands provide with their single pedals, heusinkveld provides one sold seperately for the sprints i believe. But finding a hardware store that works with metal could be easier, just get some drilling patterns, get the correct hole size or make a few strips without compromising integrity. yes on more extreme cases of ffb de dd1 can be loosing some very small amount of detail. but tbh, even with a Simlab GT1 evo + bucket seat, there is still some amount of movement. the improvement is quite small and I'll need to add some extra profile, not only horizontal for the shifter, but vertical to close of the corner and add stability. the GT1 is really nice but it's not 100% flexless as a solid rock. and the trophy is insanely solid at it's price point, and TBH I believed it to be unbeatable at the 500€ I bought it brand new. Any aluminium rig with the bucket and acessories to mount it will be at around 800€ and cheaper ones can have compromises that make them worse than the trophy, like a flimsy way of mounting the pedal plate. There are cockpits that just by looking at the picture i can see the flex.
@@caaarlos did you test your DD1 on a Simlab GT1 Evo + as well? And so you plan on modifying the Simlab rig with more profile? Of course the Trophy punches above its weight suprisinf everyone that has used one for it being more rigid than it looks. So it's ironic that you say that you can see the flex on some cockpits. I know what you mean and for the most part you are probably right but obviously the Trophy is the exception.
@@TheDoctor46vr I understand the irony, but I mean the "lesser evil". There are many tubular cockpits that have a sharper U turn angle somewhere at the front and where the wheelbase "arrives" suported almost only in an horizontal fashion which usually translates to much weaker resistance to vibrations during use. One of the most important things for laptime is the pedals, and while on the trophy you get them suported by the 4 oposite corners in the pedal tray if you screw them well enough, I've seen many cockpits where there are pedal tray corners that aren't supported as well and it translates to a much mushier feeling on the pedals. (this is mostly older designs since recently people have complained about it) Even some aluminium profiles I used to see on the market had the same flaw regarding pedal support. Last week of november I had 2 guys interested in the Trophy and I ended up selling it, while I am using a simlab GT1 evo, I wanted to do more videos and more reviews but I've just been too busy with work and enjoying some casual racing, so my videos have been short lately just some driving fun. I was actually a bit disappointed with the GT1evo TBH, after all the hype, is not "that" flexless but it's ofc quite nice... but we're getting into the law of the diminishing returns territory. I would certainly love something like the P1X but it's getting to a point... I'm struggling to find a place to rent a whole year where they don't kick tenants out in the summer to rent to tourists at outrageous prices but it's common practice in every rented flat in the city that i live. Either that or to rent a whole year costs a whole wage per month for a crumbling flat on a desolate location. spent 2 months with all my gear stored in a garage in 2023 and not interested in packing all my stuff again this year. after solving this I hope to get back into the videos
And here I am still with the g29 rubber brake mod 😂 actually what is more interesting is the PlaySeat can handle hard breaking, that's a surprise. Great vid. Subbed.
You need 2 conditions for the PlaySeat to hold its ground, the screws must be really tight on each side of the pedal plate holder, and you must have a sturdy base plate to hold the pedals stable because screwing single pedals like a strong brake pedal might be too much pressure focused on a single point.
I've used TLCMs and V3s but IDK if someone uses a 200kg load cell brake the pedal plate will display some unwanted movement.
Great video!!! 🏁
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Do you think a VRS setup is too much for the Trophy even if the wheel base and pedals are dialled down? Or do you think there's still an advantage with VRS dialled down compared to the Alpha Mini and CSL V2?
The VRS base can be quite powerful, I do run a DD1 with 15nm hold and 20nm peak. I've used 90% at times and it create small vibrations but while driving they were barely noticeable , I noticed them more on the video I recorded.
About the pedals, due to the nature of the seat, I don't know if using the VRS at the highest settings would actually put too much force in the actifit. I've only used the TLCMs and V3+BPK. And I've had pretty stiff settings on the V3 and atm I feel a bit unsatisfied since I would want to apply more force on the brake pedal.
Sometimes I can brake with way too much force and then I lift some of the force on my leg but I'm still braking at 100%.
The pedaltray will need an aftermarket pedalplate if you want to bolt pedals because bolting single pedals directly into the Playseat Trophy pedalplate will result in a ton of flex. The design is great but the material is a bit thin and lightweight and the whole cockpit is designed with ease of use in mind.
Regarding weaker bases, I wouldn't "downgrade" from my DD1 to any other "less than 10nm" base without expecting a loss in ffb.
When the CSL dd released I wanted to save for it... for the boost kit etc... ended up going with "dated" tech but from personal experience the "dated" DD1 performed much better and was a way higher quality product (I've had 2 DD1s with pretty solid QRs without any trouble).
@@caaarlosWill from Boosted Media said there's was a bit of flex with the wheel base which would numb some of the force feed back you would feel. He ran his DD1 at 12nm but I'm not sure if the flex was at 12nm or higher.
I didn't know you can get an after market pedal plate for the Trophy I haven't seen them.
I still don't know what to do, I'll keep researching.
@@TheDoctor46vrI mean it's just a sheet of thick metal, like most brands provide with their single pedals, heusinkveld provides one sold seperately for the sprints i believe.
But finding a hardware store that works with metal could be easier, just get some drilling patterns, get the correct hole size or make a few strips without compromising integrity.
yes on more extreme cases of ffb de dd1 can be loosing some very small amount of detail.
but tbh, even with a Simlab GT1 evo + bucket seat, there is still some amount of movement. the improvement is quite small and I'll need to add some extra profile, not only horizontal for the shifter, but vertical to close of the corner and add stability.
the GT1 is really nice but it's not 100% flexless as a solid rock. and the trophy is insanely solid at it's price point, and TBH I believed it to be unbeatable at the 500€ I bought it brand new.
Any aluminium rig with the bucket and acessories to mount it will be at around 800€ and cheaper ones can have compromises that make them worse than the trophy, like a flimsy way of mounting the pedal plate.
There are cockpits that just by looking at the picture i can see the flex.
@@caaarlos did you test your DD1 on a Simlab GT1 Evo + as well? And so you plan on modifying the Simlab rig with more profile?
Of course the Trophy punches above its weight suprisinf everyone that has used one for it being more rigid than it looks.
So it's ironic that you say that you can see the flex on some cockpits. I know what you mean and for the most part you are probably right but obviously the Trophy is the exception.
@@TheDoctor46vr I understand the irony, but I mean the "lesser evil".
There are many tubular cockpits that have a sharper U turn angle somewhere at the front and where the wheelbase "arrives" suported almost only in an horizontal fashion which usually translates to much weaker resistance to vibrations during use.
One of the most important things for laptime is the pedals, and while on the trophy you get them suported by the 4 oposite corners in the pedal tray if you screw them well enough, I've seen many cockpits where there are pedal tray corners that aren't supported as well and it translates to a much mushier feeling on the pedals. (this is mostly older designs since recently people have complained about it)
Even some aluminium profiles I used to see on the market had the same flaw regarding pedal support.
Last week of november I had 2 guys interested in the Trophy and I ended up selling it, while I am using a simlab GT1 evo, I wanted to do more videos and more reviews but I've just been too busy with work and enjoying some casual racing, so my videos have been short lately just some driving fun.
I was actually a bit disappointed with the GT1evo TBH, after all the hype, is not "that" flexless but it's ofc quite nice... but we're getting into the law of the diminishing returns territory. I would certainly love something like the P1X but it's getting to a point...
I'm struggling to find a place to rent a whole year where they don't kick tenants out in the summer to rent to tourists at outrageous prices but it's common practice in every rented flat in the city that i live. Either that or to rent a whole year costs a whole wage per month for a crumbling flat on a desolate location. spent 2 months with all my gear stored in a garage in 2023 and not interested in packing all my stuff again this year. after solving this I hope to get back into the videos
Continue, we miss more from Portugal around the networld. You're just the 2. Tuga i could find here with video about simracing. Very good.
Thanks a lot! ...ou obrigado? 😆 será que devia fazer também em Português?
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Muito obrigado Anderson! Será que também devo postar video na nossa lingua?