How Ben 10 Replaces Old Aliens
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
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discussing the aliens who fill the same role as other aliens. particularly fastrack, astrodactyl and a handful of others.
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The Heatblast and NRG comparison is definitely a hot one, maybe if we seen more of NRGs true form I’d consider the argument
I kinda agree with DrWardy, NRG after thinking, about it can do alot of what Heatblast can do with the addition of Energy absorbtion. But lets be real, Heatblast will always the cooler looking alien. 😂
Sería más bien Atomix
@@RomanNdunguswamp fire is way better replacement than nrg, dude is living energy contained in a suit do to his power. Swamp fire is a fire plant that somewhat looks like bro.
Hehe. Hot one
@@frozenramen4206 Facts, Swampfire would be the most appropiate "replacement" for Heat Blast although I think both of them could co-exsist as Heat Blast can fly and has better fire control than Swampfire.
The funny thing about Fasttrack is he wasn't even supposed to exist. He was just made for that one racing game and then thrown into the show
But i have to say, i really like his introduction, it was really nonchalant and because he never spoke, he created an air of mystery around him
these are the bits and pieces i never knew !
In my opinion, because of that fact is power should have been that he's really good at driving. I know it's not the most useful or interesting power but it's at least different
you know, when you think about it, Ben's original 10 aliens were pretty balanced. each had unique skill set and powers that worked for certain situations.
I feel they were a bit too specialized compared to others that were more well rounded
Like if ben has a an enemy that flies he can use stink fly or heatblast but if he needs to go underwater it's ripjaws or nothing
@@airplanes_aren.t_real But that can be so challenging and fun to watch. Like exact same thing happened in classic.there was tons of time that ben had to deal with problem with an alien that wasn't so suitable for that. For now i remember when Ben and Kevin fought on the bridge, he was fourarms and Kevin could shape shift and ben had to deal with that. Or one time ben turned into ripjaws out of water and had a hard time stoping criminals.
they certainly were. each had their own individual strengths and skills
Thing is, radiation is alot more dangerous to use around people than fire, so Heatblast seems like a safer choice.
this is something i totally missed when coming up with that point. good thinking
I like that there are a lot of aliens with the same abilities. It shows how big the universe is and a lot of them are going to have the same abilities.
Convergent evolution, but for superpowers.
As much as I enjoy the stories and character of the franchise, what really makes Ben 10 a favourite for me personally is its worldbuilding. From that perspective, when you're dealing with a universe of hundreds of thousands of different sapient species, it makes a lot of sense to me that you'd have several aliens with different abilities.
It also makes alien monster of the week remarkable by the ability to use them in later episodes.
it would have been cool for heat blasts species to evolve or be related to NRG.
I dont follow the show anymore (for like years now), so I dont rly know what aliens are related to which. From looking at both of them I feel like I can make up some bullshit lore that sounds good in my head.
As a kid, it made me a bit sad to see the plant guy replace heatblast, even though it made more sense, he just seemed a lot more versatile and a little less dangerous
One thing I like that Omniverse added that we also do see in his debut episode in Classic (although it's never directly pointed out) is that Ditto can breathe underwater. It's not much, but I do like that while he isn't the most offensively capable alien, the fact he can duplicate, dig, and swim without risking drowning makes him one of the best problem solving aliens in the show, which is why I will always love him more than Echo Echo.
EDIT: or maybe because Rob Paulson voices him and it's hilarious
Also when I say he was breathing underwater in his debut, when he was captured by Animo, he was in a tank filled with water without any breathing apparatus. He was talking and breathing just fine while completely submerged.
Anyways, Ditto is peak lol
Wasn't Ditto listed as one of Ben's cutest aliens in OV too I forget the episode but he's listed like that in the extranet.
Not talking about the, like, five electric aliens in this video is crazy
Nosedeenian
Conductoid
Anperi
Gimlinopithecus
Cerebocrucstacean
Uhh, one of them is smart?
Gimlinopithecus sounds like gigantopithicus, so im guessing that alien is shocksquatch
@@jaden-leeforbes5009 in order of my listing
Buzzshock
Feedback
Amperi* (auto correct) is the eel one, I forgot Ben’s nickname
Shocksquath
Brainstorm
@@theonetruefusion8533 eel one? You mean ampfibian the jellyfish-looking one?
@@LAG00N that one yes, it had eel like arms and a jelly fish body
Astrodactyl was in my Opinion a poor replacement for Jetray. If you think about it Jetray was one of Ben's most versatile aliens.
He can fly, travel after the speed of light, can survive in space, fire Neuroshock blasts and thrive underwater. That's pretty OP if you think about it. 😂
Yup.
also pretty fun fandom or DJW considers him overused
the series that spammed some of the aliens as much as humungousaur and eeven humungousaur in omniverse s2 was used like 7/10 or 9/10 eps was it
Fake news, DJW tried getting him into the show but couldnt and he said Astrodactyl was not meant to replace him.
Hell, DJW had to FIGHT to get Brainstorm a scene because his toys didnt sell and Cartoon Network didnt want him to be used, same with Chromastone.
@@VermillionRed got any sources on that or, also I dunno maybe chromastone toys didnt sell well because his design was literally the same as UAF LOL. maybe brainstorm toys didnt sell that well cuz his redesign was also a downgrade . DJW is also known for being a walking contradiction, not remember his own words, has claimed he'd rather use other lamer aliens over chamalien fasttrack, jetray. Show itself claimed someone like stinkfly is better than jetray 💀
The comment also didnt mention DJW like at all or the reason he ot replaced seems like someone is just gasligthing himself
@@VermillionRedI did not realize that was the reason, but If DJW fought so hard and wanted him to be in the show why did he say the reason for Jetray's absence was that he was overused??
i’m pretty sure that nrg actually gives off radiation to his surroundings especially in real form, i thinks that’s why he’s not always a pick over heat blast. plus heat blast is just cool
The classic alien roster is the only one that felt balanced.
True
There were only ten aliens and no alien x so it makes sense
@@homies1270even the additional aliens felt balanced, like ditto or eye guy
I think diverse u mean because in terms of power they where not balanced
I think he meant balanced in the sense that each alien had a unique purpose and was definitely more ideal in certain scenarios. Unlike in the other shows where any alien could do any job.
5:28 When I was young, I always thought Echo Echo replace Ditto but Oniv did bought back Ditto
3:59 every argument I make for them you can replace one for the other.
They’re both around the same physical strength talking about heat blast is a decent brawling abilities, and energy in his suit.
They both have the problem of civilians can’t be that close of quarters with them due to exposure to each ones element,
they both have partial heat blast propulsion Nrg while removing a suit
but does have the intangibility that’s leg up
Heatblast can actually make his fire not hot as you see when he saved a family from a burning building.
@@roastingmarshmallow8654Exactly Heat blast can regulate his temperatures unlike energy who's legit a walking talking Nuclear reactor.
heatbalst cna also manipulate rocks
I don't think EchoEcho replaced Ditto, I think Ditto is such a redundant alien on its own. I feel like EchoEcho is the "fixed" Ditto
I never considered Echo Echo a replacement for Ben Wolf or Ditto, but I think that's down to only seeing ditto used 3 times and Ben Wolf only once by the time OS finished.
As for NRG, a big caveat is his containment suit. It keeps people safe from his constant emission of radiation but also limits him from using flight and energy absorption. Those restrictions kinda make heatblast a more appropriate transformation for more occasions.
Even if you say Ben would just clear himself of others before losing the suit, I don't think he'd be too keen on casually dropping large doses of radiation on his enemies either.
I actually dont hate Fasttrack but they can atleast give him extra powers like his Fur he can shoot his Fur Quills & when it hits gives the target temporary speed either to help or mess with there speed
I like that, kinda giving him Argit-like powers to make up for Ben not getting that transformation. I also like the idea that in exchange for being slower, Fasttrack is stronger or more resilient than XLR8
@@leori-7477 Plus, thinking about it, the method of movement's different too. Fasttrack actually runs while XLR8 uses wheels, so to speak. And being a cheetah in the latter's case (basically all in on speed) does mean if you have too much, it won't help should you lack the strength that momentum won't fix.
I really think going the of "Powers" is the wrong way to go, I think Fast-track should have more cat like adaptations like claws for better traction so he wouldn't slip as much like XLR8's wheels would, and maybe better at Tracking target like his name suggests through more developed smell and hearing
Great Video!
I get the Heatblast and NRG thing, but even if Ben doesn’t use it heatblast can control rocks and earth. Examples are Alan albright’s flaming rock he rides, or even in that one Omniverse flashback when heatblast fights malware, he straight up levitates the rock without using fire. I think heatblast’s powers are more in tune with fire, lava, earth and NRG is like the raw essence of energies . Heatblast also moves extremely fast in certain episodes, like in the weather monster episode he creates a fire tornado and in the burning building scene in classic series, he straight up teleports out of the building with two other people. NRG is fast too but I think heatblast could possibly be faster. I think there are a lot of advantages to using aliens that are specialized and advantages to using aliens that have a more broad power set.
I do see what you’re saying about replacement aliens and I always thought Ben just chose an alien that was suitable and appeared First in his playlist. (Example: If heatblast was appeared in the rotation before NRG and I just needed to burn something id just use heatblast.)
Exactly
If you think about it most of the alien force aliens were ment to be upgrades from prior aliens since in alien force ben had his old aliens locked away while getting the new ones so the alien force ones are ment to feel like replacements and or upgrades rather than their own stand alone things.
Heatblast has better fine-tuned flame manipulation than NRG.
Heatblast is not an immediate danger to every living being around him unlike suitless NRG who is radioactive.
Exactly
show might say that he is but we've seen humans be very close to him even in OV and nothing happends to them
@@knuckson8304
Who knows, maybe someone got Cancer.
Nah, I don't agree with the comparison between Heatblast and NRG.
Yes, on the surface, NRG seems more useful than Heatblast. But you seem to forget that he's radiation, meaning he can't be around other living being for long. He's also locked in his suit. So unless someone opens him (like in that one episode) benefits like his flight are inaccessible.
couldnt he open himself in Omniverse?
@@knuckson8304 Kind of. First time, it was because of Ester's species doing it, and the other was by accident. Even in the latter, he warned the people around to not get close to him. So he's never intentionally opened his containment suit. That implies that he either prefers staying in the suit or can't do it on his own.
@@maxthecharacter1296 well the accident clearly wasnt done by tedonite, and you are right he did warn them but like he was 2 feet away from them at the same time- at this point he'd have to touch them for anything to actually happen and like same goes for heatblast too close for the heat
NRG is also more powerful tbh without his suit
@@knuckson8304 NRG was in the air when he warned the people. That's more than being two feet. Meanwhile, Heatblast has been close to people, even standing next to them. So while NRG is powerful, the radiation he emits makes him a danger to other people.
@@maxthecharacter1296 gee I didnt know his radiation was that sorry, if he was in an apartment people in the next one wouldnt be affected at all how sad. Sure it might make him a danger ... If you touch him maybe lol, same would go to heatblast really. Gwen also stood pretty closely to pandor but you can say cuz she alien I guess. You did actually see the rubber species when they opened nrg too they were standing right next to him as well and nothing happend and I dont think radioactivity doesnt affect rubber idk
Even tho Chromastone and Feedback are slightly different, you should’ve talked about how useless Chromastone is compared to Feedback.
I’m so sad Chromastone virtually never gets used in OV!!! He’s got such a cool design and his energy manipulation looks pretty, he can have enhanced durability due to being made of rock, which sets him apart from fleshy energy aliens like Feedback, and he can fly around pretty effortlessly.
I also think Feedback was made kinda *too* OP, like I like seeing Feedback, he’s got a fun design, but being able to absorb literally all types of energy ever feels like a Chromastone thing more than a Feedback thing, Feedback seems more tied to explicitly electricity. I watched Kuro’s breakdown on the TGIS crossover yesterday, and how Feedback apparently could just absorb what was either Kur’s *soul* or some form of life energy, and expel it as his energy blast into the air, destroying it forever…? That just feels like an excuse to make Feedback the star of the show :P
Heatblast and NRG was a horrendous take. Heatblast can lift up parts of the ground and create fire constructs. He was also able to teleport a few times (this was only used in OS unfortunately). To say NRG completely outclasses him is a lie because Heatblast is shown to get way hotter than NRG can.
I actually like UAF Eatle Better but it would make sense if he isnt a upchuck clone instead Eatle eats stuff to make energy beetle wings or beetle horns would be cooler then shooting lasers
My favourite swampfire just replaced heatblast and wildwine at the same time, and also he can regenerate, can control wines like diamondhead who just magically forms crystals out of nowhere.
Heat blast has way better fire power than Swampfire though.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 obviously
But swampfire overall has better hax and abilities then heatblast
@@cooledits_WIS. They both have practical uses Heatblast can control pretty much any form of fire unlike Swampfire. Heatblast can also Fly so that's a plus and can also seemingly teleport with his flames.
Lots of great talking points in here - nice job!
thanks guys ! that means the world
I feel like a lot of these issues could be resolved if the newer aliens either had more weaknesses, or fewer powers. For example, I actually prefer Astrodactyl over Jetray, since Astrodactyl is fairly specialized in mid-range aerial combat with his energy weapons, allowing him to fill a specific niche without outright power creeping other aliens. By contrast, Jetray has better super speed than XLR8, and since he can use that speed while flying or swimming, he’s a better flyer and swimmer than any of Ben’s other flying or aquatic aliens, _and_ he can shoot lasers giving him strong ranged capabilities. Jetray’s 4 powers, all of which he excels at, invalidate so many different aliens: XLR8 (slower, lacks flight, swimming, or ranged attacks), Stinkfly (worse flyer, worse ranged attacks, lacks speed or swimming), Ripjaws (worse swimmer, lacks speed, flight or ranged attacks), Eye Guy (arguably better ranged attacks, but lacks speed, flight and swimming), Water Hazard (worse swimmer, worse ranged attacks, lacks speed and flight), Fasttrack (slower, lacks flight, swimming or ranged attacks), Astrodactyl (worse flyer, shorter ranged attacks, lacks speed and swimming). And those are just off the top of my head.
There are other aliens where they kinda invalidate other transformations, including but not limited to some you mention here, but I think Jetray’s one of the more excessive examples. Something I’ve been thinking about doing is maybe making a video about how to better balance Ben’s transformations so that everyone can have their own unique niches without power creeping each other. I don’t have good recording equipment though, so idk if I’ll ever actually get to it.
You prefer Astrodactyl because Jetray is better than everyone, lol.
@@roastingmarshmallow8654 yep. It’s like how a lot of people dislike Superman for being so much more powerful than most of the other heroes in the Justice League. Except at least the other Justice League members can still do things while Superman’s busy, but if Ben’s Jetray then all the other aliens are benched.
@@GurrenPrime I find that reason very stupid, you don't like your character because he's overpowered.
@@roastingmarshmallow8654 ok, let’s put it this way: let’s say whenever Ben needs to go fast, or fly, or swim, he uses Jetray. That’s going to get very boring since he’d use Jetray way too often, and fewer aliens would get used overall. That is bad writing, since boring writing is bad writing.
If Ben _doesn’t_ use Jetray for all those situations, then Ben looks like an idiot because he should be using Jetray instead since Jetray would be obviously more effective. That is also bad writing, since writing your characters to be idiots for no reason is bad writing.
So Jetray existing means that Ben 10’s writers are stuck in between two options, both of which would be bad writing (either boring or stupid). If a character’s existence produces nothing but bad writing, then that character is badly written. _That_ is why I don’t like Jetray.
@@GurrenPrime do you know been considered some aliens Overkill that why he sometime doesn't goes for the best option. that logic could apply to Way Big. why use any alien if you have way big to instantly end the situation?
No waayy its a Wardy PNG tuber✅
Exquisite design
I don't hate any of these "replacement" aliens (to me they're unique enough.) But the reason why I am a persistent fasttrack hater is because he's more of a blatant replacement than anyone else. At least with Jetray/Astrodactyl, (as you said) Astrodactyl seems slower, has energy whips as opposed to lasers, and even has a decent design. Meanwhile fasttrack has EXACTLY the same powers (idc about power scalers or whatever a show-writer might've said in an obscure forum.) If you ask a casual viewer to describe what either one of their powers were, the answer in both cases would just be "superspeed." But it's not just that their powers are identical, it's the fact XLR8 was so iconic design-wise, and yet he's replaced with an alien that is so bland and humanoid like fasttrack. Having humanoid aliens by itself isn't bad, but fasttrack almost looks like he could be a traditional spandex-wearing human superhero, which imo really takes away from the *alien* feel of the omnitrix.
Exactly!!
Fasttrack is an example of the worse end of UAF’s designs - humanoid with no interesting bodytype (which is part of why I love Ben 10 aliens over most other series’s aliens, because they can all have weird bodytypes like Wildvine or Wildmutt or Stinkfly and still be treated like people-aliens instead of animal-aliens), same colors as XLR8 but way less striking and interesting markings, and underwhelming powers. He even uses the same speed trail effect as XLR8, but overall more blue instead of XLR8’s vivid black and blue trail.
If they’d done that different - given Fasttrack more exaggerated proportions, or a more animal head, or some extra power besides speed, it’d be worth seeing Fasttrack when the writers could have just as easily brought XLR8 back.
The main difference with N R G is that I believe Ben is mostly worried about harming people with n r g radiation
I think the thing between all the fire Aliens is how they use their fire
Swampfire and NRG just kinda shoot fire at things, while Heatblast has the most control over fire. Full-on pyrokinesis. It's like a guy with a built in flamethrower vs a Fire Bender
NRG is hazardous to everything, even teammates, thanks to the radiation. However, you could argue that he has the strongest fire AND he's the most durable
Swampfire seems to have the weakest fire, but his innate physical strength and regeneration make up for it
With XLR8 and Fasttrack, I'd agree with the sentiment that XLR8 is faster and Fasttrack is physically stronger, but speed is kinda all you need there. Though, they're all worse than Clockwork when it comes to that
Your right about NRG being able to put out fires, as fire emits Infared radiation, which NRG could aborb and put out the fire.
I prefer astrodactyl greatly
why
Same
@@sadrali56 why
Same tbh
@@roastingmarshmallow8654i like astrodactyl way better than jet ray cause astrodactyl looks cooler (dinosaur, jetpack) than jetray (weird flying stunfisk thing that looks like mcdonalds)
just to put it into perspective ben space traveled with jet ray when the omnitrix reseted to have the timer again meaning he traveled to kevin and gwens location on a different planet outside the milkyway within 10 mins
One thing about NRG and Heatblast is that Heatblast is way more civilian friendly. NRG has the suit to keep in the radiation, but has a significant handicap in mobility. If he tries to leave the suit, he's a threat to the public. Although, it exponentially increase his mobility, it's not very safe to use in a public environment. Heatblast avoids these issues.
Fast track should of had some of crashhoppers powers, being able to jump quickly. It would of been nice to see a more acrobatic version of XLR8
The only advantage I’d see to Ditto over echo echo is the fact (in classic, animo states as such, when he takes a sample of splixson DNA) that Ditto has limitless cloning potential. I think we’ve seen maybe a dozen or more echo echo clones respectively.
Also apparently Ditto can breathe underwater.
Derrek saying Astrodactyl was not a replacement for JettRay always felt like a cover up after realizing how popular he was.
If the theory is right I feel like the reason Ben uses Heatblast more than NRG is because with Heatblast the no risk of giving his enemies and allies cancer from all the radiation.
True I did find that part strange but noticed NRG and Heat blast both had their uses for abilities. Well sadly no NRG can't absorb flames since they aren't emitting plasma.
Honestly there are aliens that have better uses than another would. But I never ignore how their abilities can each have their pro's and cons.
I feel like Heatblast would be better for larger aoe damage without the danger of NRG's radiation. Where as NRG is a more presice heavy hitter that can tank stuff with the suit but can also direct his radiation to a smaller range. Heatblast would be better in an urban space where as Ben could go all out with an enemy with NRG, suitless and all
The Big Chill replacing Arctiguana only works if you watched Omniverse first because at the time of Big Chill's creation, Arctiguana was a Ben 10,000 transformation. Present (10 year old) Ben, didn't have access to the transformation. So it can't replace something Ben didn't have. And even if, let's say, the Omniverse retcon was always a thing, it kind of counter itself out since the first episode of Alien Force had Ben get 10 new aliens while the originals were locked. So Big Chill being available from the start in Arctiguana's place would come nice and handy. Similar to Swampfire and Heatblast.
Also, Derrick did intend on using Chamalien in Universe v. Tennyson. But the story got changed to the point where Chamalien wasn't needed anymore. This was confirm by Derrick on his blog.
These videos are too good 🙏
I think what makes people prefer XLR8 for his speed is because of that one baseball episode. The one where he moved so fast he was invisible.
I feel like Heatblast is just far faster in many situations than NRG, better for reacting and brawling or catching up to an opponent. That’s probably a big reason Ben prefers him, because he clearly prefers aliens that have excellent mobility, even if other aliens could be objectively more useful. Also that NRG outside the suit is dangerous to everything alive around him because he is living radioactivity and the containment suit the Omnitrix puts around him isn’t for NRG’s benefit and safety, but the safety of what’s outside the suit.
Also, I feel like Fasttrack could have been introduced onscreen with Ben commenting like, “It’s not XLR8, but it’ll do!” to show it’s kinda the Omnitrix screwing Ben over by keeping him from old aliens and give a reason for Ben to use Fasttrack so often: he doesn’t really have a good ground-based speed alien, until he gets Fasttrack and both misses the powerset and finds it incredibly useful. I mean, Ben 10k patrolled around as XLR8 for a reason, speed is one of the best powers to have if you’re looking to patrol or react to any wrongdoing, and gives you excellent reaction time to switch to other aliens.
Ditto does feel kinda useless compared to Echo Echo, especially since his clones all share the same pain sensations and life, meaning the more he duplicates himself, the *more* danger he’s in of getting seriously hurt. I didn’t mind that they changed that in Omniverse to give Ditto some more use, but I did miss how unique it made Ditto feel - all of the duplicates are *him* and share a mental link for teamwork, while I always saw Echo Echo’s dupes as more their own minds, but the duplication doesn’t vary their personality like Ditto’s does, so they work in sync without a mental link.
Speaking of duplicates though, I find it kinda weird that basically the only wind-powered alien Ben has is Terraspin? With all those electric aliens, a good handful of water aliens, and plenty of fire or flying aliens, how come Ben only has one that uses wind to fight, really?
Personally, I feel Heatblast is objectively better to use than NRG for the sole reason that people are safer around Heatblast.
By that I mean, radiation is kind of a lot more dangerous than regular fire. Meaning Heatblast can be agile and dextrous without needing to risk radiation poisoning of the people around him like NRG does when he escapes his suit.
Heat blast is faster and NRG is slow but durable it depends in the battle, to put out a house fire heat blast works but in a very dangerous place NRG works
Same powers but different designs, for the sake of toys.
Ultimate fast track has such a cool name too, I wish we could have seen him
Great commentary and great video.
I think Heatblasts is less dangerous to his surroundings than NRG, Heatblast can control how hot he is and he has full control of where the flames go. NRG is radiation so its a higher risk for him to hurt people around him than Heatblast and radiation poisoning is more dangerous than burns.
I like some of these Aliens especially Astrodactyl and Fasttrack which they both get way too much hate.
so honestly for me the big differenrence with NRG and heatblast i the bit the same i have when people compare swampfire as the better heatblast and wildvine
the biggest difference between them is that heatblast have a far better control over is fire power and control on it being able to do fire construct
while for example swampfire is more physical with fire shooting being more a second ability
and the same apply for nrg
A few other aliens you missed that could be seen 'replacement' aliens, would be "Upgrade and Juryrigg"(both use technology to create weapons), "Gray Matter and Brainstorm"(Smart aliens), "Rath and Kickin Hawk"(Martial arts).
We could argue a trio if you throw Heatblast, NRG, and Atomix, together. Why use NRG after getting Atomix, who's basically NRG but doesn't need to eat or absorb energy to do anything, he's even faster then NRG.
To me, replacement isn't about whether the alien shares powers, but if they seem to be used for the same niche without serious differences. In which case, only Fasttrack really counts, due to arguably being a slower form, with the only real advantage being superior natural strength. I prefer "The Ink Tank" and their take for the Citrakayah, feels like it was more thought out compared to the show.
I think big chill is also a ghost freak replacment. Intangibillity and the secondary flying alien in the set. And having the dedicated episode for it developing its own personallity outside of ben (although much less serious.) Alien forces initial line up generally just has a lot of reshuffling of og series aliens abilities besides alien x.
Speaking of Heatblast do you think Heatblast can get so hot to the point where his fire and his body changes color to like blue fire or purple fire? (Im asking cause Blue fire is hotter)
Maybe Ultimate Heatblast can?
If you think about it, their not weapons or combat machines, and just like animals in real life, so many living things have similar features that could make them in an evolutionary standpoint the same, so it shouldn't be weird that aliens have similar abilitys
NRG unlike Heatblast is alot more dangerous for the public and allies since he works off radiation.
Heatblast has better control of fire to where he can just put or absorb fire easily, NRG when in the suit is much more slower and cumbersome.
When he's out of the suit he proves to be a danger if not controlled probably by Ben.
Heatblast has more control over his fire and is show to use it in more unique and creative ways unlike NRG who just seems more brute force/power.
If theres one thing I like about multiple aliens with the same skills, it's that it shows a biological trait found in traditional evolution.
[Convergant Evolution]
Two species basically chipping millions of years away at two seperate problems and then eventually arriving at similar conclusions. I dig it.
Im surprised you consider astrodactyl a jetray replacement but not eatle an upchuck replacement. Usually I see it the other way around
(Jetray / Astrodactyl): Do not be afraid to do power scaling just because you might get a take wrong. I don't see how anyone can be a fan of a series without using some parts of power scaling without even knowing their power scaling. Your right Jetray is faster than Astrodactyl.
(NRG / Heatblast): People truly hated me for my Fasttrack better than XLR8 take, I wonder what people would think of your take of NRG. Your right NRG is better and stronger than Heatblast. I promise you NRG's suit is not durable. Just because it can take attacks from 3 No Name Humans doesn't mean it's durable .
(Big Chill / Arctiguana) Arctiguana's ice powers is weak. Yes shooting solid may look more impressive than shooting air but that solid Arctiguana is shooting is trash. Plus don't let animation of intensity deceive you.
(XLR8 / Fasttrack): 1 aspect of capabilities due to win to lost ratio and embarrassing showings. Yes Fasttrack does lose a lot, but humungousaur also loses a lot but he is Ben's 6th strongest alien. Fasttrack is better than XLR8, why would you use XLR8 if you have someone that just as fast or maybe faster but is stronger. The thing is XLR8 is more iconic due to being voted as the most popular alien in original series so I see why fans wouldn't like him being replace.
(Eatle / Upchuck): Upchuck doesn't have an automatic Win-con of eating someone because he tried that on Heatblast's Predator, but when it turned to stronger alien, Ult ditto's predator, it escaped Upchuck's stomach, meaning the stronger you are, Upchuck can't eat you. Upchuck almost got killed by eating Ult Grey Matter laser which is way weaker than Eatle.
You're not wrong about Jetray/Astrodactyl and XLR8/Fasttrack.
Jetray is faster and can swim but Astrodactyl is more versatile with his energy abilities.
XLR8 seems to be faster (although not by a huge margin, through some calculations it is shown that Fasttrack could replicate pretty much all of XLR8's top feats, maybe even the golf match one) and has better control over his speed, but Fasttrack is shown to be so much stronger than XLR8 (he can hold his own weight, plus Gwen's weight plus rock-coated Kevin's weight with a single hand with the tip of his fingers as if it was nothing, and even though he's carrying their weight he's still capable of super-jumping).
Now, I do believe you're wrong about NRG/Heatblast and Big Chill/Arctiguana.
First of all, NRG's armor is super durable, the only thing shown to be able to cut it open being taydenite, which is pretty much the strongest material shown in the verse. NRG also does seem physically stronger than Heatblast, at least when he's in the suit. The issue here is that I also don't agree NRG can replace Heatblast, because Heatblast has masterful control of pyrokinesis, while NRG's "heat" abilities are pretty much heat radiation lasers and the ability to melt stuff on contact and etc, meaning that although he has control over heat radiation, his actual pyrokinesis is much less pronounced. Edit: also those weren't three random humans, those were aliens called Kraahos, and the species has enhanced strength.
Now, about Arctiguana, I really don't know why you wanna disprove his ice beams being stronger, like, Big Chill is already super busted as an alien (cryokinesis, flight, intangibility, etc), so not having at least Arctiguana's cryokinesis being better just feels wrong. And through Arctiguana's first appearance it is arguable that Arctiguana's cryokinesis IS, in fact, stronger, as he was shown to freeze an entire lake (?) in mere seconds. Despite what you say, the visuals do tell us something about their powers, tho. While Big Chill's ice breath cools down what it touches to the point of freezing, it is still just a "breath" of cold air. Arctiguana's ice beam seems some sort of freezing energy/plasma beam, and the intensity that it seems to have DOES say something about what are the creator's intentions regarding what we should view as the "strongest freezing ability".
@@mrkyurem5499 How does XLR8 seems faster.
NRG's suit is resistant to cutting attacks but not blunt force. Like how a piece of wood is less durable than a human body because of karate masters breaking it with ease but that piece of wood can resist being cut more than the human body. 1) Ult Kvein, using 1/10 of Brainstorm, put NRG on this back. Brainstorm's attacks are already weak but only have access to 1/10 of its strength, now that beyond trash. 2) Sunder's Axe laser almost one-shot NRG while Ult Spider Monkey took the same Axe laser to his mouth which Ult Spider Monkey is on par with Four Arms.
When I was talking about the 3 No Name humans, I was talking about the 3 No Name Humans in P'andor's debut episode. I honestly don't care who is better.
Because his Ice Beam has no AP (attack potency or Brute Force) feats. why should we say something that has no feat or scaling is stronger than Big Chill who does.
Big Chill’s frost breath is so strong cuz its force can stop Rex’s Smack Hands in his tracks, which Rex’s Smack Hands is relative to Humungousaur and can overpower ExoSkull’s laser, which is ExoSkull’s strongest form of attack. ExoSkull is the same alien that beat Four Arms, and bullied Rath and shocksquatch.
And if you're talking about freezing capability, Big Chill froze Dr. Animo's giant machine in a sec and made the Null Void snow. So what do you think is more impressive, freezing a lake or city block or making the whole Null Void snow, which the Null Void has stars. big chill potentially froze Stars
Echo Echo and its clones share a single brain. Ditto's clones have separate brains and similar personalities
NRG is more lethal to the people around him
I actually never minded the fact that we have “replacement aliens”. I mean after all some are bound to fill similar niches, especially if they come from similar environments. Heck u see this in nature all the time.
Can you make a vídeo explaining How did Ben 10 became Cartoon network's highest grossing show of ALL time before adventure time?
Nrg I heard someone considered nrg as an ultimate form of heatblast I love heatblast alot but nrg is really cool too
I like to think NRG works kind of like silver chariot from jojos. In the suit he’s slower but has more durability and strength. Out of the suit, he’s faster but weaker in defense
Heatblast is more versatile than NRG. He can make fire tornadoes and other constructs, going supernova, making area of effect attacks alongside concentrated 1v1 attacks and is physically tough. With NRG its either a small laser or huge lava floors. Hes also radioactive which doesnt bode well if youre fighting with civillians in the area. Also outside the suit he doesnt have any strength feats, so hed have to choose between strength and agility in a fight whereas with heatblast you can get both.
The only benefit I see for using Ditto over Echo Echo is his ability to burrow underground. However, I feel like the combined skillset of duplication and digging is kind of niche and doesn't really make Ditto more appealing than Echo Echo or Armadillo for those roles. So the only thing he has left is that he's pretty funny I guess
The theme matter too and Bens mindset at the time depends on the use of that alien, for example XLR8 matches Classic ben better than UAF Ben, cause XLR8 is fast in your face, cool, and his theme is Topsy Durby. Whilst Fasttrack matches UAF Ben cause Ben has soo many more different aliens in that time he really only needs Fastrack for his speed(while its stated he stronger than a kineceleran its never been put to full use) this proves the theory that ben uses the aliens mainly for their gimmick and whats often in his playlist like your album history on save file is gonna bring up songs you listen to more the Omnitrix does the same at this point just Fastrack was bens get in there and get it, plus Fastrack theme could be written to beastial akin to Rath being a brawler, Fastrack is his speedster cousin(been awesome if they shared the same planet of cat being aliens in canon instead of making a whole new one). Now XLR8 did appear in the GEN REX/Ben 10 crossover but that was for fanservice sake, and the reason why he didn't appear in the show was the studio already had Fasttracks animation cells, and from animation view Fasttrack (IS BETTER/CHEAPER TO ANIMATE) compared to XLR8 who has a more complicated animation with bipedial/lateral morph and his powers would cost more to animate so that why he didn't appear in UAF outside of Promo cameo/GEN REX crossover.
Plus back to that theme statement from earlier Classic era theme is Marvel comic books/gross alien boy tropes XLR8 being velociraptor(speed) and the xenomorph(sleek vicious raspy voiced alien), while UAF theme is DC(cause Dwanye himself worked on the justice league), and Teenager tropes so Fasttrack is the skittish track running teen that pays homage to the Flash and Cheetah both DC characters.
Had to do a part two for being so long, as for Jetray and Astrodactyl.
Jetray theme is water/flight combo and having space immunity this homages back to Jetrays inspiration jumping Manta rays out of water, and Jetray basically being his own speed ship to get to and fro destination. And Jetrays personality like XLR8 is fun and fast but as ben gets older the fun wears out and he becomes more serious using Jetray. Whilst Astrodactyl is pterodon with living star energy flowing through him making him a shootn star. And while ben is him he basically a smirky parrot that shares the same planet as Humongousaur, the show just as with Fastrack didn't want to elaborate on Astrodactyl too much but his race like most Pteranodons in fiction(Rodan(TOHO), Terrorsaur(TF:BW), Pterano(LBT) tend to be pricks so its assume that Astrodactyl have hints of that smirky personality with his chirps and squaks, that and Omniverse Ben is snarky at times more so than UAF bens fame so it makes sense that Astrodactyl fits Omniverse Ben persona over all. And ben turns into him cause its more active in the playlist at the time, and he can hover while using his arms/whips unlike Jetray. So ben doesn't really like one over the other just the circumstances.
As for Heatblast and NRG I don't see the similarities so I'd sit that one out.
Honestly surprised you never mentioned the electric aliens.
im surprised stinkfly and spitter wasnt talked about and humongousaur and four arms
Something that fassinates me is the fact that this XLR8 vs Fasttrack argument always highlits strongly 2 or3 things; same ability and colourpalet (+arguably freakvency of apparance, as the "replacement" point) yet I never hear they mentioning that Shocksquach was pretty much "replacer" of Feankenstrike😅... Oke, only UAF, but think about it; Both are electric aliens (oke, this is a different bag, let's just focus on these two😅) with fairly humanoid apparance, both having different platches of gray and had bolts all over them. Possibly Shocks was saved by his Omniverse redesigne😅
I mean, from a lore standpoint. Considering we have millions of species it was bound to have some who are basicaly repeats of each other, or straightup useless in battle (looking at you walkatrough) and I personally think those aliens do a lot for the worldbuilding.
But from a show standpoint, what's the reason of creating a new character to fill the role of a character that already exists and is available? Sure I can get behind something like "Oh, Swampfire can use the powers of both Heatblast and Wildvine, but individually, both outclass him on their respective elements, he is just more versatille" but why have Fasttrack when XLR8 is right there and it's basically the same thing?! If you realy wanted to sell some new toys, you could just have made Ultimate XLR8
I'm not an Fasttrack hater, but it's hard to deffend his inclusion since he brings nothing new to the table
i know you dont talk about ben10go but theres a practically copy of water hazard in that which i thought was a redesign for a long time
Sometimes I wish ditto had a secondary power
I alwys felt as though fast track should’ve had static electricity or kinetic power fueled by his super speed as a byproduct
İ think main problem is aliens losing the formula of classic ben 10. such as İf ben needed to go in water Ripjaws was perfect choice.
İf he need to trace someone Wildmutt is the choice. if he need to fly stinkfly would helped. i think Ben 10 series should always be 10 alien in omnitrix and ben chooses which 10 alien he will get in each 4 5 episodes or something. make it like omnitrix has Usb kinda thing you plug in and it inserts some Dna. İt is failsafe for Omnitrix if someone evil gets it omnitrix will only have 10 alien at that point so ben can use another omnitrix with 10 alien to counter that person. like albedo vs ben thing but more focused on alien choosing and ben creating strategy.
My understanding is that every alien has different advantages and disadvantages. Yes Echo Echo can duplicate and has an Ultimate Form, but Blitzwolfer has wolf like senses, physical abilities, AND the ability to launch a sonic blast capable of toppling Vilgax. Arctiguana shoots a beam of ice which you could assume is stronger then Big Chill, but Big Chill compensates with intangibility and flight, but hes still easy as shit to hurt. Situations influence how useful an alien is. To small for Way Big but you need alot of physical power? Atomix. Sonics are necessary but Echo Echo would be crushed? Blitzwolfer. Need speed AND the physical strength to carry several people at once? Fasttrack (still stupid)
Some aliens are just overpowered as shit, but most of them are balanced when you look at them deeper
The first alien is obviously four arms. Sonic clap.
Every alien in BEN 10 has a unique ability that makes them superior to Ben's original form.
Does that make Humanity the weakest? To the point where Azmut hasnt even bother collecting Human DNA when making the thing?
I Think NRG Can't Drain Fire
He can
@@cooledits_WIS. I Agree
The real drawback of NRG is when hes out of the suit he cam cause harm to people around him due to high levels of radiation whareas this isnt an issue with heatblast
Feedback and chromastone are very similar
The real reason is that they had to sell more toys
Ok I have not yet watched omniverse so idk what blitzwolf is like there but I don't really see your first alien is seen as best idea. For instance stinkfly was the first flyer, sure ben did figure out how to fly with heatblast but stinkfly was always the go to flying alien in the original series, then once he had jetray and big chill I don't think we saw ben use stinkfly again because all other flyers flew better or just as well with better additional abilities.
If I were to assume your idea is true, that the community views the first alien to do something as being the best at that thing, I think that might be more once a replacement alien comes along for one or more aliens if the earlier alien was popular the creators might notice that fans lament the loss of their favourites and retroactively make them better. Echo echo could do everything that dito did but better since they aren't all affected by everything a single one is affected by and also has sound powers, I know dito is used in omniverse so I wonder if he somehow overcomes the shared pain/effects weakness
Heat blast vs nrg
Heatblast doesn’t have to burn every thing he touches plus geo kinesis
Honestly, it's realistic. Completely unrelated animals can evolve the same niches on earth. Look at fish and crabs. Snakes. All of the things I just mentioned are actually full of fake versions of "true" species. Horseshoe crabs, coconut crabs. Those aren't true crabs!.
I actually like it a lot from a word building perspective.... Even though I doubt it was their intention.
what's the first one in the video? Ive never seen that one. Dude looks like a fourarms with a cannonbolt bodytype
Slapstrike, a fake alien made by that lenopan Ben 10 impersonator in omniverse
In terms of heat blast vs NRG my thoughts was always that heatplast is a “Less hot” option, and comparatively saver
That and his abilites are a bit more….”free styled” ? It’s something about the way he fights, plus been has exspirence with him
Also I just never liked the design of fast stack, the design made less sense VAGULY biological when compaired to XLR8
i have one question like omnitrix has playlist is it like every alien is divided in playlist or there is only one playlist with 10 and they can be swapped and with master control theres no playlist
Omfg thats big-chill!!!???? Is he on steroids??
Who is that alien at the very start?
Who is that first alien at start of the video never seen that one before
Yeah I hate ditto ditto and I prefer echo echo because he's just him but better. Dittos only advantage is to dig which a lot of other aliens can do better. Fast track by all means is way slower than an xlr8 his only advantage is that he has more agility.
I don't think I would consider NRG as a replacement for heat blast and no NRG I cannot absorb fire; yes he flies really weird but he's the only one that we know that can make heat constructs
0:00 Who dafuq was that? I stopped watching OV after season 2. Where can I watch OV? (legally)
wtf was that 1st alien here in 0:02
Bro 😂 that man Radius radiation he abou to give every one cancer if he spams that to much 😅
I think you should get into power scaling, not for arguments but for education, it can teach you quite a bit and give you better intuition on some fictional power systems
I like the new png tuber version of u
what the heck is the first alien in the video