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Really it comes down to when to use it and when it doesn't matter. For this video I wouldn't say it matters. The other one I just watched which was more of a suggestive video of WHAT to play used a lot of gameplay which was efficient. Gameplay is also a search away if you REALLY needed it.
@@rel3979 because everyone wants to be a critic. You came here for what he was offering and you stayed because it wasn't a lie. It was fact mixed with opinion, a informed opinion it would seem most have respected. For this I did sub. Thanks for the vid bro, let haters hate.
@@qrash8547 I'm still glad he did the video and I watched it, but my critic is really positive because I'm just suggesting how it could be better or future videos could be better considering I had to pause and google gameplay on each game instead of just being able to watch the video the whole way through.
I felt the same until I logged back in after 2 years and got the Chenga Tome. Now I just do questing because I'm no longer interested in progressing my gear. I now only want to progress my character and the story/
The big problem with Black Desert its main progression is Grinding endless monsters Tho because of the very fun combat system its not to much of a problem. It is not always fun. The game feels combat wise really good. I would love to see other games employ that kind of combat system Its one of the best combat system Pair that with for example the questing of ESO and you might actually have a world class new gamebreaking mmorpg
@@Princess_Narii the grining system tjen the afk mentality where you always need it running or peoe gonna outstrip your in game bank and youll.be perma poor.
oh my, every time i think about ff14 i get filled with nostalgia.... back when i had the time i used to play 8h+ straight every day, having all classes maxed, then life changed and if you cant play that much you start to feel you're staying behind with all the dialy dungeons, quests, currency farming and capping, raid, gathering, fishing, crafting there is to do. i miss it so much
Wildstar was amazing, but the problem was bad devs. They left major bugs for very long periods of time, along with set bonuses, and talents not working at all the way they were supposed to. Wildstar had the best player housing/combat of any MMO i've ever played. I wish that blizzard had been the creators tbh D:
The BDO loading screens were always there; they were just on a live queue meaning you could still load new terrain and push through a region before it loaded.
Damn, I miss the old Maplestory... It's the most nostalgic game for me. Back before Big Bang update which uncapped the 99,999 dmg, where it took MONTH to get to level 30, where you could party quest without track and autoclicker at Kerning City, when people would afk and flex their NX or ask to trade fame. Back when everyone just socialized, went on adventures to amoria to see people get married or to Aqua Road to experience swimming for the first time, back where people actually stayed on Maple Island to try to get level 30 or where you randomly saw really high leveled beginners who never picked a class. Even when people discovered dexless assasins or that New Leaf City Boomer monster duplication glitch. People used to just hang out at Henesys lobby, play Omok and the matching card game, and when you had to hide inside the cabin of the ship from Balrog on the way to Orbis, just back where everyone didn't care much about power leveling or who had the best damage... it’s sad I’ll never get to experience something like that ever again... I miss it a lot...
This. I remember spending MONTHS getting to lvl 35. I remember buying fame for 5k. I ended up being a lvl 40 with 1400 fame. Too bad the new maplestory changed exp scaling and the new shitty classes really killed off the reward of leveling.
that game was great back in the day. farming ludi and orbis PQ, zruns and selling the helms. I was in one of the top guild PQ crews in windia and it was really dope trying to stay in the top 5. maplestory had the best community in any game ive ever played and I was super disappointed that maplestory 2 didnt recreate that atmosphere.
@@terryburns4521 The only thing I can say that im proud about to this day is owning the Beta bandana LOL Yea RIP Maplestory 2 that game was a sham. It met the same fate as Ragnarok Online 2 which emulated a 3d world unlike its original game Rangarok Online that was top down 2d.
I just wish more people knew what "Toontown Online" even was. That, and how when it was taken down(By Disney because CP was better to them!), a free reboot was made called Toontown Rewritten!
So it is similar to what Wizard 101 is combat wise. Simple turnbased combat that other players and enemies can join in on. It is made for a younger crowd, so it's a very simple game that does include a lot of teamwork to get though easily. Obviously you can solo the entire game, but it won't be worth the time nor effort
I always heard of Toontown, just never played it, I was addicted to playing Wizard101 back in like 2012, people in the wizard community always talked about Toontown, sucks it shut down, It actually looks pretty fun.
No, I agree. He didn't quite give it a good summary. He mentioned that GW2 has been slowing down on content updates when it literally had an update to the current story just last month. *Shrug*
@@meganclare7 basically all maps 1-79 are core games maps, so they are from the games launch (with a few events added since), so I'd lvl up with the mindset of it being a tutorial - the lvl 80 maps are much more engaging and really show how far the studio has come in map design since. Maybe look into a few vids so you are reasonably comfortable you picked a good 'main class', personally my favorotes are Guardian (tanky fire paladin) and Mesmer (illusionary teleportation mage), but my girlfriend loves her elementalist (fire+water+air+earth mage, but kinda demandimg so not a good starting toon in my opinion unless your used to keyboard piano classes). Also at 80 your classes get much more depth tp them as you can further 'elite specialize' which depending on class might completely change its playstyle. If you buy the game I recommend you use your 80 booster on a character you are pretty sure you will want to play, then immediately go do the first mission for each expansion, that way you unlock the glider and first mount (raptor). After you have them go back to your low lvl 'main' and lvl it up to get a good grip on the core mechanics (once a mount and glider is unlocked its available on all characters regardless of lvl), you will have a much nicer lvling experience! Perhaps do this after you've lvled your 'main to 10-20ish so you know the buttons at least before doing those missions or it will be hard.
i love MMOs as a genre, but with 2 kids now, its damn near impossible for me to invest enough time to be able to accomplish anything. At least for now, few more years we will be playing together!
MMO is a dead genre they aren't cost efficient. WoW only ever was as amazing as it was because it had a monopoly on the market and nothing to compare to. MMO's are EXPENSIVE to make and operate so they aren't as profitable as current big games like MOBA's or FPS. MMO is dead and will never come back until virtual reality gets sophisticated enough that you can get fully immersed into virtual reality the way you see in animes.
@@Jayman1329 There are 3 huge MMO titles coming, New world, Ashes of Creation, Lord of the rings online. So no, MMO's arn't dead, there just not many out there worth playing.
BDO is an amazing mmorpg, however, the fact that you have to sell your soul in order to complete the game with the amount of content the game has is just.... overwhelming.
The kritika reboot has been somewhat enjoyable but i had to quit because i added the 2nd password and apparently it has some issues.... sooooo i couldnt do much with my account since the password is needed for security yet it wouldnt accept the password i made
BnS combat would be phenomenal if they changed the engine already. It's often a laggy mess, especially in 12 man raids. It's time that NCSoft hurry up and go from UE3 to UE4.
I last looked at one of these lists about 8 years ago and most of the big games are still here. Maple story Runescape World of warcraft Eve online guild wars 2 Some kind of star wars game. These have been the biggest MMOs for so long, I would have expected more of a change.
@@ademon5142 Old school is still going strong. But RS3 isn't good even the ability system still feels unresponsive, I tried it for the first time in years.
Speaking of space games, EVE: Online has always been my favorite MMO. I was able to play free for years once you can earn enough in game money to buy flex every month. After a while, it becomes pretty easy.
@@gamingofdays2551 Tera runs like utter shit else it would be top 1 mmo rn. It has the best combat system and classes among all mmos but the trash performance and p2w cashshop ruins it.
Some of the info you had about gw2 was inaccurate. First as someone who has been playing a while I actually feel that that the number of players increased recently (but that's just a hunch) as far as actual info. The lay offs were for non-guild wars related projects in arenaNet, no gw2 developers were laid off, in fact some even came back to it. Second they now release content more frequently then they used to, not less...
I've been playing GW2 since release and can definitely say they release content much less common than in the beginning. If I remember correctly there were monthly releases in the first two years, now it's 6 Episodes of Living world in about 18 Months - so every 3 Months.
> the lay offs were for non-guild wars related projects Because we definitely didn't get a relatively detailed list of who was sacked which tells us they lost some very important staff members, including, amongst others, 3 out of the 4 people who worked on gw2's core engine. Check your facts. > they now release content more frequently than they used to I can't say anything about that as I quit gw2 around 9 months ago, but by the time I quit, the game was getting updated at a crawling pace and most new stuff was just things for Gem Store. The main seasonal events weren't updated much since the game's launch, for example.
It's been pretty dry lately for a "real" MMO, but we DO have some great ones coming that I really think with heavy hitters like Amazon stepping into the ring will revamp the genre into a new era, looking forward to it for sure!
Rift has scaling for pve missions, aiding less experienced players in dungeons etc. This means old school power creep pvp is possible. I recall taking part in a "savage pvp" raid of players of various levels against a noob zone of the opposite faction, with the final aim of getting closer to their capital. Good times.
I agree. I remember last year, I started playing it again but I literally leveled by myself with no social interactions needed to 150+ and I just gave up after.. That just felt sad...
Just downloaded GW 2 and I'm loving it so far. Its the best compromise between hardcore MMOs and the more casual ones. I can see myself coming back to this as long as the servers are alive. Highly recommended for those who have day jobs and can't afford to lounge in front of the pc all day.
@@coendou007 You mean when they said there would be no sweeping class changes due to having to heavily invest in a spec with the weapon then less than two months later completely breaking rogues and prot warriors? Yeah, that was the last straw for me...
I remember in WoW, MoP, a DK friend, his pally brother and myself (warlock) 3-manned the world boss Nalak for like 47 minutes because we were just bored, one night. Fun times.
@@jamestkirkcameron9189 I only ever actually played in MoP and some during the classic release so I don't have may memories but the ones I do have are pretty cool. Like the green fire book for warlocks in MoP. Apparently it had a really low drop rate and only dropped from less than 10 monsters. I made it a point to farm those monsters on a timer, every time I knew they'd be up. I got the drop more times than not whenever I went. Got so much gold from that at 10k+ each drop.
I am veteran wow player, 8+ years. Just created character on Guild Wars 2 other day to give it a go for first time, and at some point I want to give Eve a go :)
while I love FFXIV, I HATE that it doesn't feel like an open world and that really ia a no for me, it doesn't make me feel immersed in the world with a shit ton of instances
Fortnite? Some genres take longer to develop and complete than others, this is such an old and sad argument regarding mmos, just don't play them instead of discussing how they are in your opinion just an inferior version of the ordinary 9-5 workday. Damn your guilds must have made you sweat xD
K P I have a shit ton of hours into GW2 and PSO(1-2), but that doesn’t change my opinion at all dude. Fortnite should burn in a dumpsterfire. Last I checked this is a discussion forum of sorts where opinions are fair game.
An EvE Titan (the really giant ship for each faction.) legit takes like two physical years to make in the game. And I think it takes like six years to train all of the skills to fly one. Could be wrong but I think thats what it said.
Theyre not like other games in that regard though, fps have to move forward for something fresh, but mmo's you dont want to move on and lose all your progress. Its good they dont change much
I agree with you. I am not currently playing any mmorpg games because none are new and different. I'm just following the new mmorpg games that are coming now.
Its Dungeon Fighter 3D, or Project BBQ. It's not out yet and probably won't be until late 2020 or early 2021, and it'll take longer than that for North America to get it unfortunately
You are actually wrong on GW2 slowing down content updates. Content has been coming out faster than any other living world season in years. Roughly every 2 months we get some sort of story update not to mention holidays in between.
I can usually tell when a game is going downhill, there are telltale signs. I always seem to leave a beloved game right before this happens because you can just see it coming. gw2 has already hit its peak sad to say. It will always be one of my favorite mmos but it's definitely on the downward trend. I simply cannot recommend it to people currently for those that want a game to get into for the long term. This makes me sad to admit actually.
how can FFIX even compare? It is boring as hell. SWTOR story telling is mile above anything else in the market. Rest of the game is a different matter, but no. FFIX doesn't come even close in terms of story telling.
Guild Wars 2 has a lot more life and promise since this video came out. New expansion announced and new game director and new patch that has re-balancing with new WVW and PVP updates and modes.
@@shank8853 being honest, he treated gw2 as the game with the least players that even having 1mil seems extravagant, but the other game having 15 mil or something is perfectly normal.
“Swtor combat is slow and clunky” *laughs in sith sorcerer* But for real swtor is definitely a good mmo to try, 8 stories, 4 dlcs plus so much side content and endgame content, 8 classes with like 30ish sub-classes, so many customisations, and yeah the game is highly story driven but the story isn’t forced like most mmos, I’d definitely recommend it if you want to try a new mmo and/or if you’re a star wars EU fan
It actually has 5 DLCs with many Sub-DLCs (Which are ARKs relating to said DLCs) but yeah I like both the Single player aspect and multiplayer aspect of the game.
Comments section needed more shout outs for Guild Wars 2. Great game, free, awesome active combat system, free, fashion wars for days, did I mention free? Anyways, I'll just leave this here...
Hey btw, you know the first clip he shows, with that blonde haired ninja with a blade that has an artstyle that matches that of Breath of the Wild? What is that game called? I am not talking about the games he talks about in a list. I am talking about the very first few seconds in the video. That game looks sick. Mind telling me the name of it? If you are still confused, I am talking about the game at 0:43
@@Newby1 Ah yeah, I realised it. Thanks for helping me though :D. i still dont understand something. When i went to check the trailers out, the comment section was full of comments talking about the companies' backstory. Are the convicted for committing mass genocide or something? What is wrong with their backstory lol
And here I am still playing RuneScape Edit: I totally didn’t expect to see it in this video! Glad to see it being talked about outside of the normal RuneScape community.
They don't release numbers, but in terms of subscribers it's probably in the top 3 of mmorpgs. There really are a lot more runescape players than most people think.
Awesome video! I just started playing Black Desert Online this week and I love it the graphics and the game play is really cool. The difficulty for me is remembering where I left my horse, items in specific storage keepers or the fact that theirs no fast travel make it hard but once you get organized and set small goals when you log on and stick to it, stay VERY positive lol it becomes easier and rewarding if everything goes as planed.
BDO is beautiful, complete, has so much to do - probably more than any other major MMO .... however, the endgame PvP is basically pay2win as top tier gear is a full time day job to grind for months, only to see it break, where players can just pay to avoid half of the headaches. For that reason, I think ESO is on top of the market right now for that type of MMO (type being, good graphics, complete sandbox-ish MMO that isnt WoW)
Following for quite some time now, but never stopped to wonder: How has exercise affected your mental in comparison to maybe before you started going on these walks? Would you say its important or recommended considering the stress that an MMORPG can bring? (Healing, tanking, DPS rotation pressures, etc) -- I'd personally like to see a short video of you talking about it. Some of us just need that extra push to maybe try something to break the habit of "bed to boot."
The secret to Swtor being better in combat is a button-mash/priority macro setup that would allow you to move your skills around on a hotbar. The rotation is now the challenge as is your skill in programing this. Mix this with actual manual hotkey presses. This is when it's fun. The animations start to shine now and you can really pull off some sick moves. Supposedly this is all good with end user agreement too "One Button, One Action". ...but I guess that would work with anything.
DFO really, I played YEARS ago when it first came out. I hit a cieling in the game where I couldn't get passed so I quit. Can't believe that game is still available lol
Yeah. It actually did die, but was resurrected by a passionate team that made it better than it had ever been. It's honestly a better comeback story than FFXIV.
I played both versions, Nexon and Neople, nexon only played for couple hours and that's it, but the neople one i played for a thousand hours, grind 7 characters to lvl 75 when it was the max lvl, i have almost 2 years without touching it, and im not missing it because it turned out to be pay to win for raids.
I gave Aion a try again about a month ago. It is a husk of what it used to be. Apparently they condensed the whole of the original base game down to one zone, and even they shrunk the cities too. Really sad.
- GW2: It has flaws. All of which mechanical, not philosophical. The most major one is the lack of collision which makes WvW a joke. Another minor one is that the "dodge" is an "immunity sura" rather than an actual physical dodge. I also dislike how most older specs become obsolete with new expansions and if happened to enjoy an old spec and try to stick with it in the newest expansion, you'll probably suffer in pvp. Very fun game, if you like freedom of choice and schedule. One of the few mmos that im having fun in the moment. - ESO: Theres only one flaw, which i didnt mind when i played say... Oblivion, but now it annoys me very much. And that is the horrible animations and movement. The fights look like ...robots, with parkinson's, sliding on ice, trying to guard their opponent in a basketball match on NBA Live 2000. Though i really love exploration in this game. - SWTOR: Not many flaws. Just.. way too many abilities. wtf i want to relax and escape, not play the piano while high on coke. The stories are excellent. And i actually like the simple graphics. Very underrated game. - FFXIV: Pretty, good story, and i like the housing. Too many filler abilities almost-douplicate abilities for the sake of having many abilities. Abilities that hold your hand with combo/followup-mechanics. Too many cooldowns as well. And it has very few abilities that are trully cool and fun. Cant be arsed to follow the story cause most content including main questlines are not voiced over. The most boring questing in any AAA mmo, you just travel from place to place and talk to silent and still npcs, and i honestly never died once while leveling to max level... yawn. The world while beautiful, is pointless with nothing to explore/find. PvP is a joke. PvE is nice, and most raids are very fun. Housing is awesome. If you buy a boost to max level and ignore pvp, you'll love it. - WoW: Half classes can be played by a monkey while the other half have way too many abilities and cooldowns. The story has gone to shit since Varian/Voljin died. Used to be a fan of the hectic gameplay but not anymore, im too old. World is nice, PvE is nice, PvP is okay, but their philosophy is pushing half the people away (no freedom) while forcing others to play a little bit every day non stop (routine) with strictly "incentivized" progression and little actual choice in what you do while online. Turning WoW from a game into a job. I havent played the rest from this list, so i cant comment on them.
FFXIV is my all time favorite MMO, I love how we get a decent amount of content every few months and olnly have to buy Expansions every two years or so. So good. anyway also ESO I just started again two days ago I just wish I could play everything on one character like FFXIV. I tend to make a lot of characters... I have a problem....
@@CynicallyObnoxious that's fair, only thing I can think of is to get the artifact equipment authorisation from either the cash shop or the GTN if you have the credits
First time I've seen one of your videos and I just want to say THANK YOU for putting the game title in the corner of the screen the entire time your talking about it. When people don't do that it drives me crazy. bravo
Man, as much attention as OSRS gets, I still think it's vastly overlooked, simply because of its graphics and gameplay. I think it's still one of the best MMOs, if you're not turned away by the grindy nature.
Huge mmo fan and i hope we get plenty of good ones in future. But.. I have to say that OSRS is ultimate mmo of all times. I HATE how rs3 looks like and i LOVE how OSRS does. Also it takes more skill to be good in osrs, than many people might think.
@@synthqt7825 There's a 3rd party client for OSRS called RuneLite, it provides a fuckton of customization, animation smoothing, skyboxes, bigger window sizes and makes it pretty much like RS3 minus the graphics. I couldn't play without it.
@@KenoxProductions I don't like how rs3 looks like. Micros really suck too. If there was rs3 that looks like bdo and has no micros, i would be interested xD
Been playing WoW since The tail end of Vanilla and almost EVERY single Xpac people hated it..lol. i have liked and loved everything from WoW, 15-20 a month for this amazing world is awesome!
JApp John Andrew Patrick Peters wow is trash, a game for dumb westerners. As soon as I log in to play that game, I see toxic, stupid kids rage quits and belittle newbies because they aren’t skillful enough lol. It tells you what kind of people really plays it. Fyi, i tried to like the game, but no, it is pure garbage.
Mr. Pan D. man my sentiments exactly. Its a relic of gaming held on to tightly by people with rose tinted glasses and addicted because they spent so much money on it over the years
Went back and tried wow after a year off of it, the game is still kinda fun, no guidance or direction for new players though. The community though, that forced me to unsubscribe immediately. Did one dungeon and the very first interaction with any other player was so toxic it actually caught me off guard.
Yeah the larger the population the more assholes you ll find But on the flip side you ll also find amazing interactions with kind and funny people. Don’t judge the whole community based on a few unfortunate cases and have a nice rest of day :D .
@@lolosh99 WoW's community is one of the worst cause most of the nice people have moved on and most of the players left are try hards that have been playing for ages and only keep playing to show off their level and gear... so when you get to a dungeon with them they flame you all the time if you don't run as fast as possible... so yeah... having fun with others is WoW is a possibility but not very probable...
I can't fully agree, but I also only play casually and never play the raid scene, except for LFR. I think I have had less than ten toxic interactions over the past year. With the majority of them centered around current content raiding. If you are referring to raiding or mythic dungeons, then I can understand the perspective. However, since I don't really participate in major raids, I don't see that toxicity. Ultimately, if you aren't playing to play hardcore endgame content then it shouldn't be that bad. At least it hasn't been for me. :P
@@swiftie10 raiding isnt hardcore end game....thats all the content lmao if u dont raid or do mythics wtf do u do? Run in circles? People that have done every raid and mythic are bored looking for more thats why they are triggered all the time. They play and fund a game that gets catered to you running around picking flowers and doing nothing unfortunately.
@@Brandon-yd3rk I like the world itself. So instead of basing my entire experience on just what end game provides, I go explore parts I didn't get a chance to in the past. Before I would be rushing to max level and skipping out on side stories and parts of the world that I didn't know existed. I never played during MoP or WoD, so I want to explore those. Not mention I have plenty of classes I still haven't leveled. But to be honest I haven't sunk thousands of hours into the game, so of course there is still plenty for me to do.
@@thegamingchannelofawesome8384 i just transfered from ps4 to pc kind of a vet im lvl 6 healer rn give me your discord so we can play together if youd like
Gw2 is still going strong! Can't wait for the upcoming expansion. Having played the other mmos listed, I can say that Gw2 is the only fun and fulfilling one for me. Like I get a sense of accomplishment from PvE going through the story and doing world events. Not to mention PvP and especially WvW is still very active, esp on weekends.
I haven’t played gw2 in years and may try it again due to covid-19. Happy to hear it’s still strong, however pvp was my mainstay. I heard it’s not as active in that regard anymore so I might have to try some WvW or PvE content.
I recently realised how HUGE the game is. I’ve played it for so long that I took so many things for granted but after playing FFXIV I realised that GW2 offers much more.
@@nio1763 You can't deny that it was the n1 mmo in its era, and you'll never find a bigger world, e-sports pvp, a whole lot of jobs ( yes fkin jobs from tailors to jewlers to fkin butchers and so on), donjons, mobs... I won't fkin stop the details in that game is literally the best alternative world.
Im from 86 and i did play atari nes sega bassicly i played since then and stil do at 33 years old. Favorite games of all time FF7 Secret of mana Zelda a link to the past Counter-strike Call of duty 4 Chronotrigger Command and conquer red alert 2 yuris revenge
I don't have a channel, but what I did saw from other channels and have been working for them is: 1. Find one theme or content you like and stick with it (You will be recognized for that content and if it hits the ranks and you grow your audience, that theme will help you get to different content later.) Like Pewdiepie, who make an audience playing horror games, and later on, he is able to make different content with the same audience. Is harder than say it, of course. 2. Don't make promises, but if you make them, deliver. Do your thing and gain your audience. 3. Entertain. People stay in a video when something makes them laugh, or makes them be very very interested in what you're streaming. Whether is because you're telling very good jokes while you stream, your attitude and voice towards recording yourself, or because you're very good at what you do in-game (If videogames).
I will warn anyone considering ESO that the lag issues are really defining the game experience right now. I play mostly PvP and the lag in Cyrodiil Grey Host is borderline unplayable, even on week nights. You don't know which abilities are cast, which ones are not, which ones are just lagged out...it's a disaster. I spend 20 seconds taking no damage and dealing no damage, then everything hits me all at once and I kill two people and die. I do not PvE that much, but my friends that are big into raiding said that lag has also started to pop up in the big raids. The issues have been known and brought up numerous times and ZOS does nothing to fix it. Instead, they create more gear sets and dungeons. Ironically, I think some of the issue is the prevalence of AoE effects from abilities, combined with AoE effects from gear. It's basically just an overload on the servers when you have a big group and everyone is causing some sort of an AoE effect.
I wish Rift still had active player base. It was the only MMO I can think of that could compete with World of Warcraft at the time. I loved the random rifts that would pop up and bring a bunch of people to the same location to fight off waves of enemies followed by a boss. The dungeons were really fun and the soul system for the classes was unreal opening up tons of different ways you could play your class.
Guild wars 2 was done quite dirty 😭 Every Mmo struggles, it is not a secret, but why go out of your way to comment on the losses of arenanet as a company and not mention it for other games? (Earnings , employee lay offs ) Also, gw 2 is not free to play, it is a free infinite trial, that lets u experience all maps until 2015 when 1st expac came out. But it limits the player in a lot of ways until the price for a full game is paid.
- - - IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN FINAL FANTASY XIV - - - 1. there is a free trial version of the game 2. the free trial got an overhaul and now you can play for free until level 60 (includes the whole base game ARR and the first expansion/DLC Heavensward) definitely worth checking it out
@Nils Grønkjær combat at max level is quick except you are a black mage, then no but if you play for example as samurai or ninja, you can attack very very quickly
I've been playing BDO like crazy in the past week, I never understood all the systems in the game so I never actually played it, but combat is addictive. In just less than a week I have 4 characters over 40 with my Guardian being the highest at 54. And those loading screens are desync bugs. Try changing servers when it happens.
Dungeon Fighter Online is without a doubt the biggest MMORPG in the world with 1.6 billion dollars in revenue in 2019 which absolutely crushes the competition. It generated more revenue in 2019 than the 9 other MMO on that list combined.
It's the only MMO that got me to actually pay attention to the stories (and enjoy it!). It's my favorite in that category. Sadly, I don't have the money to pay for a subscription every damn month. The limitations that comes with it bothers me.
@@Tesse29 Yeah it's unfortunate. I also end up spending way too much money on the cartel market for the awesome lightsabers and armor sets lol. I've probably put at least 1k into this game since I started playing.
FFXIV is such a weird game how they have like no content creator community. The game's probably close to WoW in subs, and yet their biggest TH-camr Mr. Happy has like 150k subs. Where as there are dozens of WoW channels with 1mil+ subs, lol.
@@nauscakes1868 Everyone who plays FFXIV either hangs out on discord or in game. We don't really watch the big creators for it because there's a mind-boggling amount of stuff to do in game.
I found a buried comment with the answer. " Its Dungeon Fighter 3D, or Project BBQ. It's not out yet and probably won't be until late 2020 or early 2021, and it'll take longer than that for North America to get it unfortunately"
As someone who has played SWTOR on and off since the begin, I think it is the best it has EVER been. Great game, definitely a bit more casual which is nice. You can play tons of different characters without feeling like you are missing out.
Man, how is ESO so low on the twitch list with that many players? I’ve played both WoW and ESO and ESO definitely has WAY more players. Even just on PC. Count in console since its there now too, idk how its not up there with wow
No one likes to watch MMORPG games on twitch. I can tell you, I love and play a lot of MMO games but never go on twitch to watch them. If I am on twitch is to watch league or FPS games. MMOs are really boring to watch,
@@MMOByte i didnt like the HELLISH GRIND of L2 thats for sure... Tera, GW2 , runes of Magic and Rift... ate up a ton of my life playing them... how they TIE to L2 for me.. i dunno
Nothing I’ve found that isn’t crazy fun, if you like the old just pvp style play, l2ovc came back to interlude today for gve style game, i enjoyed those for what they were, besides that, warland i bear isn’t to bad. Hard to find anyone that speaks English on the servers now days is my issue.
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Play some adventure quest 3D. It's still in beta but it's previous 2d version (adventure quest world's) was a great hit.
adventure quest 3d seems will always stay beta forever....
What game is being shown at the beginning?
can u make one that is free because some people even can afford but they cant buy, because I feel bad for the one who can't pay.
@@jurkingturkey1881 thats the one i wana know about and when it will hit it seems promising i think Project BBQ
I wish you would have stuck to gameplay rather than cutscenes when showing games. Cut scenes don't really tell you anything about a game.
that would require effort on his part
Fishtank and when should a youtuber ever put effort into their content right?
Really it comes down to when to use it and when it doesn't matter. For this video I wouldn't say it matters. The other one I just watched which was more of a suggestive video of WHAT to play used a lot of gameplay which was efficient. Gameplay is also a search away if you REALLY needed it.
@@rel3979 because everyone wants to be a critic. You came here for what he was offering and you stayed because it wasn't a lie. It was fact mixed with opinion, a informed opinion it would seem most have respected. For this I did sub. Thanks for the vid bro, let haters hate.
@@qrash8547 I'm still glad he did the video and I watched it, but my critic is really positive because I'm just suggesting how it could be better or future videos could be better considering I had to pause and google gameplay on each game instead of just being able to watch the video the whole way through.
I feel like you've made the same video 49 times.
This comment deserves more attention haha, you're so right
but he said he does this kind of video every start of a year no?
Technically it's the same video released every month.
Repetition makes everyone get the point ,
even if it's a lie, people will start believing, by repetition alone !
I was the 49th like js
I gave up.on Black Desert its more of a.job than a game half the time.
How so
Bigger mmos tend to be like that. I mean look at EVE.
I felt the same until I logged back in after 2 years and got the Chenga Tome. Now I just do questing because I'm no longer interested in progressing my gear. I now only want to progress my character and the story/
The big problem with Black Desert its main progression is Grinding endless monsters
Tho because of the very fun combat system its not to much of a problem.
It is not always fun.
The game feels combat wise really good.
I would love to see other games employ that kind of combat system
Its one of the best combat system
Pair that with for example the questing of ESO and you might actually have a world class new gamebreaking mmorpg
@@Princess_Narii the grining system tjen the afk mentality where you always need it running or peoe gonna outstrip your in game bank and youll.be perma poor.
Legends say she is still creating her character
d3adkid what’s the mmo at 0:19 ?
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oh my, every time i think about ff14 i get filled with nostalgia.... back when i had the time i used to play 8h+ straight every day, having all classes maxed, then life changed and if you cant play that much you start to feel you're staying behind with all the dialy dungeons, quests, currency farming and capping, raid, gathering, fishing, crafting there is to do. i miss it so much
True, takes a dedicated few hours to just get most of the dailies out of the way. That normally takes a large chunk of your available time.
Still sad that Wildstar never lived up to it's potential...
Why did you bring my baby up? FUCK I miss that game
I still go back and listen to the soundtrack and watch videos on the Farside leveling. :'(
I miss it as well. It was such a great game. Wish I got into Copywriting and advertising much sooner so I could of advertise it for free.
Wildstar was amazing, but the problem was bad devs. They left major bugs for very long periods of time, along with set bonuses, and talents not working at all the way they were supposed to. Wildstar had the best player housing/combat of any MMO i've ever played. I wish that blizzard had been the creators tbh D:
Man that makes me sad. That game had such damn potential.
The BDO loading screens were always there; they were just on a live queue meaning you could still load new terrain and push through a region before it loaded.
steam wont even let us pay, piece of shit game
@@johnninolangbid7784 as someone who has spent hundreds of hours and money in that game, stay away from that game :) its good for your health
@@Yins what is good to play these days for free?
@@majknez1301 for good f2p mmos, Warframe, Guild Wars 2
@@titus17 already started playing WoW
the little loading screens between zones on black desert is most likely a problem on your side, never happened to me ever
Damn, I miss the old Maplestory... It's the most nostalgic game for me.
Back before Big Bang update which uncapped the 99,999 dmg, where it took MONTH to get to level 30, where you could party quest without track and autoclicker at Kerning City, when people would afk and flex their NX or ask to trade fame.
Back when everyone just socialized, went on adventures to amoria to see people get married or to Aqua Road to experience swimming for the first time, back where people actually stayed on Maple Island to try to get level 30 or where you randomly saw really high leveled beginners who never picked a class.
Even when people discovered dexless assasins or that New Leaf City Boomer monster duplication glitch. People used to just hang out at Henesys lobby, play Omok and the matching card game, and when you had to hide inside the cabin of the ship from Balrog on the way to Orbis, just back where everyone didn't care much about power leveling or who had the best damage... it’s sad I’ll never get to experience something like that ever again...
I miss it a lot...
This. I remember spending MONTHS getting to lvl 35. I remember buying fame for 5k. I ended up being a lvl 40 with 1400 fame. Too bad the new maplestory changed exp scaling and the new shitty classes really killed off the reward of leveling.
that game was great back in the day. farming ludi and orbis PQ, zruns and selling the helms. I was in one of the top guild PQ crews in windia and it was really dope trying to stay in the top 5. maplestory had the best community in any game ive ever played and I was super disappointed that maplestory 2 didnt recreate that atmosphere.
@@terryburns4521 The only thing I can say that im proud about to this day is owning the Beta bandana LOL
Yea RIP Maplestory 2 that game was a sham. It met the same fate as Ragnarok Online 2 which emulated a 3d world unlike its original game Rangarok Online that was top down 2d.
Brooo same. Pre-BB MS was my childhood. I'm 25 now and still think about it now and then. Good times
@@adriandeveraaa damn lmao nice, I had the 1st anniversary ones but thats it. all of the except blue that one was dumb rare
I just wish more people knew what "Toontown Online" even was.
That, and how when it was taken down(By Disney because CP was better to them!), a free reboot was made called Toontown Rewritten!
So it is similar to what Wizard 101 is combat wise. Simple turnbased combat that other players and enemies can join in on.
It is made for a younger crowd, so it's a very simple game that does include a lot of teamwork to get though easily. Obviously you can solo the entire game, but it won't be worth the time nor effort
I always heard of Toontown, just never played it, I was addicted to playing Wizard101 back in like 2012, people in the wizard community always talked about Toontown, sucks it shut down, It actually looks pretty fun.
I'm not playing any cause I can't find someone to play with.
Anyone wanna play together? lol
There are plenty of people willing to play! Join our discord!
Which game?
Me tell me fam. I would love to. I am the same. Wanna exchange discord or anything?
@@GodOfPlague riders of icarus :)
@@OxOx_XoXo1 I have not heard of that game before. I'll look it up
I'm ofc biased because I love Guild Wars 2, but I gotta say, don't feel like you gave the game a good summary here.
exactly my thoughts.
No, I agree. He didn't quite give it a good summary. He mentioned that GW2 has been slowing down on content updates when it literally had an update to the current story just last month. *Shrug*
@@TheMisterBerry ..and an upcoming exp announced.
Well fair play, the expansion got announced 2 months after this video came out.
As someone who hasn't played guildwars 2 how would you suggest I start? Is there good guides
@@meganclare7 basically all maps 1-79 are core games maps, so they are from the games launch (with a few events added since), so I'd lvl up with the mindset of it being a tutorial - the lvl 80 maps are much more engaging and really show how far the studio has come in map design since. Maybe look into a few vids so you are reasonably comfortable you picked a good 'main class', personally my favorotes are Guardian (tanky fire paladin) and Mesmer (illusionary teleportation mage), but my girlfriend loves her elementalist (fire+water+air+earth mage, but kinda demandimg so not a good starting toon in my opinion unless your used to keyboard piano classes). Also at 80 your classes get much more depth tp them as you can further 'elite specialize' which depending on class might completely change its playstyle.
If you buy the game I recommend you use your 80 booster on a character you are pretty sure you will want to play, then immediately go do the first mission for each expansion, that way you unlock the glider and first mount (raptor). After you have them go back to your low lvl 'main' and lvl it up to get a good grip on the core mechanics (once a mount and glider is unlocked its available on all characters regardless of lvl), you will have a much nicer lvling experience! Perhaps do this after you've lvled your 'main to 10-20ish so you know the buttons at least before doing those missions or it will be hard.
i love MMOs as a genre, but with 2 kids now, its damn near impossible for me to invest enough time to be able to accomplish anything. At least for now, few more years we will be playing together!
Try GW2, most of the content is made for people who can't play serious.
@@haroshadow wtf
I appreciate what you're doing here, this list however for me confirmed there's no MMO to tickle my fancy out there. That's disappointing.
yea it's been pretty bad for years, nothing to play
WhErEs SwOrD ArT OnLiNe?????
MMO is a dead genre they aren't cost efficient. WoW only ever was as amazing as it was because it had a monopoly on the market and nothing to compare to. MMO's are EXPENSIVE to make and operate so they aren't as profitable as current big games like MOBA's or FPS. MMO is dead and will never come back until virtual reality gets sophisticated enough that you can get fully immersed into virtual reality the way you see in animes.
Ashes of creation
@@Jayman1329 There are 3 huge MMO titles coming, New world, Ashes of Creation, Lord of the rings online. So no, MMO's arn't dead, there just not many out there worth playing.
BDO is an amazing mmorpg, however, the fact that you have to sell your soul in order to complete the game with the amount of content the game has is just.... overwhelming.
I wish there were a good mmo with BNS or Tera styled combat. :(
TERA did have some amazing combat. Man!
The kritika reboot has been somewhat enjoyable but i had to quit because i added the 2nd password and apparently it has some issues.... sooooo i couldnt do much with my account since the password is needed for security yet it wouldnt accept the password i made
I LOVED Tera's combat style.
BnS combat would be phenomenal if they changed the engine already. It's often a laggy mess, especially in 12 man raids.
It's time that NCSoft hurry up and go from UE3 to UE4.
@@MMOByte Doesn't black desert have combat style similar to TERA?
I last looked at one of these lists about 8 years ago and most of the big games are still here.
Maple story
Runescape
World of warcraft
Eve online
guild wars 2
Some kind of star wars game.
These have been the biggest MMOs for so long, I would have expected more of a change.
well they are the placedogs but runescape did fall much after EoC _:_ i was live at the change and i quit runescape cause of that complet.
@@ademon5142 Old school is still going strong.
But RS3 isn't good even the ability system still feels unresponsive, I tried it for the first time in years.
@@epic1053 Oldschool is going strong indeed but RS3 is not as good as rs from 2012. Nothing beats rs 2012 in mmorpg history
Speaking of space games, EVE: Online has always been my favorite MMO. I was able to play free for years once you can earn enough in game money to buy flex every month. After a while, it becomes pretty easy.
it's a pain to get to that level from the start though, becomes a job in itself.
how did you manage to make enough money to pay for plex?
@@samchase486 How do you not? Its extremely easy. Get into a Null corp and carrier rat.
"After a while" = After you finish a 3 year university course
@@Lumirayz Hah I tried it once and yea its quite detailed for very specific player base insane ppl :D
I want a combat system like BDO's with some kind of Dungeon or Raid system that is deeply challenging and equally rewarding. Pls...
Tera
Hansolo RaplabelOfficial p2w and it died because of it
@@gamingofdays2551 Tera runs like utter shit else it would be top 1 mmo rn. It has the best combat system and classes among all mmos but the trash performance and p2w cashshop ruins it.
guild wars 2 might be the answer too
Go play Albion online
Some of the info you had about gw2 was inaccurate. First as someone who has been playing a while I actually feel that that the number of players increased recently (but that's just a hunch) as far as actual info.
The lay offs were for non-guild wars related projects in arenaNet, no gw2 developers were laid off, in fact some even came back to it. Second they now release content more frequently then they used to, not less...
I've been playing GW2 since release and can definitely say they release content much less common than in the beginning. If I remember correctly there were monthly releases in the first two years, now it's 6 Episodes of Living world in about 18 Months - so every 3 Months.
@@fionat.6411 um, no. Season one had tiny releases, whats being added now is much bigger. Right now were getting content every 2 months and its good.
> the lay offs were for non-guild wars related projects
Because we definitely didn't get a relatively detailed list of who was sacked which tells us they lost some very important staff members, including, amongst others, 3 out of the 4 people who worked on gw2's core engine. Check your facts.
> they now release content more frequently than they used to
I can't say anything about that as I quit gw2 around 9 months ago, but by the time I quit, the game was getting updated at a crawling pace and most new stuff was just things for Gem Store. The main seasonal events weren't updated much since the game's launch, for example.
It's been pretty dry lately for a "real" MMO, but we DO have some great ones coming that I really think with heavy hitters like Amazon stepping into the ring will revamp the genre into a new era, looking forward to it for sure!
Rift has scaling for pve missions, aiding less experienced players in dungeons etc. This means old school power creep pvp is possible. I recall taking part in a "savage pvp" raid of players of various levels against a noob zone of the opposite faction, with the final aim of getting closer to their capital. Good times.
Destroyer Inazuma ESP does the same for scaling
@@rynezuzinec688 great it's a decent mechanic
I thought Rift was dead. Player base beyond low.
@@TxSuperTrooper It's okay for casual solo play and/or if you're in a guild from what I heard. Otherwise yes the population is pretty low.
Odd request, but can i please get your discord? I really wanna talk to you about something, seeing as you know a lot about mmos, I'd like to talk
Maplestory pre big-bang was a different MOOD altogether. Miss those days.
A perfect mix between a social and grinding MMO
I agree. I remember last year, I started playing it again but I literally leveled by myself with no social interactions needed to 150+ and I just gave up after.. That just felt sad...
Just downloaded GW 2 and I'm loving it so far. Its the best compromise between hardcore MMOs and the more casual ones. I can see myself coming back to this as long as the servers are alive. Highly recommended for those who have day jobs and can't afford to lounge in front of the pc all day.
I’m still on Final Fantasy XI: Online. I’ve tried XIV, WoW SWTOR, Elder Scrolls, D&D, City of Heroes (I miss it). But I always come back to FFXI
if you miss city of heroes then you dont know about city of heroes homecoming, search on internet and thank me later lol
Tonein .... homecoming? 😮 searching now!!!!
Full-on FFXIV player here. Never going back to WoW. Blizz lost me ever since WoD came out.
I almost gave up there as well, but they really made an awesome comeback with legion, to only fuck it up even more extra hard with BFA. :p
@@coendou007 All we can do is hope shadowlands is blizzards redemption arc lol.
ffxiv is seriously lacking in pvp and until that is fixed i wont come back.. can only run the EXs and Savages so many times before it becomes a bore
@@DynamicCGaming to be fair, most mmo don't have good pvp
@@coendou007 You mean when they said there would be no sweeping class changes due to having to heavily invest in a spec with the weapon then less than two months later completely breaking rogues and prot warriors? Yeah, that was the last straw for me...
WHAT MMORPG ARE YOU CURRENTLY PLAYING?
eso :D
GW 2 :)
Black desert online 😍✊🏻
Cookιᥱ Moᥒstᥲh † started playing tree of savior again. :)
@@911k7 P2W player
I remember in WoW, MoP, a DK friend, his pally brother and myself (warlock) 3-manned the world boss Nalak for like 47 minutes because we were just bored, one night. Fun times.
Psycho Ken , love stories like this. I have a lot of great memories from vanilla to wotlk as well
@@jamestkirkcameron9189 I only ever actually played in MoP and some during the classic release so I don't have may memories but the ones I do have are pretty cool. Like the green fire book for warlocks in MoP. Apparently it had a really low drop rate and only dropped from less than 10 monsters. I made it a point to farm those monsters on a timer, every time I knew they'd be up. I got the drop more times than not whenever I went. Got so much gold from that at 10k+ each drop.
I am veteran wow player, 8+ years. Just created character on Guild Wars 2 other day to give it a go for first time, and at some point I want to give Eve a go :)
what was the game you showed gameplay of at first, with the guy swinging a Katana or long sword?
Otmane Arkoub i want to play that
Its called dungeon fighter 3D its an up and coming game releasing in 2020
I think its Project BBQ
I've been playing ffxiv since the 1st of Jan 2020 and I absolutely love every second. Definitely a must play, especially now.
it is. the only problem is subscriptions. i wish it was single pay
also, its not translated to my native language (spanish)
@@pablo5425 If it was single pay it would become p2w trash
while I love FFXIV, I HATE that it doesn't feel like an open world and that really ia a no for me, it doesn't make me feel immersed in the world with a shit ton of instances
@@caseynivans7885 imo open world mmos are overrated.
@@ntz752 having played a lot of mmos, open world mmos are amazing
I just *cant find THE game for myself anymore :( Sometimes classes are weird. To grindy and what not
@rehan razi you should try elder scrolls online, if you played skyrim you might like it
I’d love a game that doesn’t feel like an employment that requires an extensive job interview and a 3 month course to get into.
Fortnite? Some genres take longer to develop and complete than others, this is such an old and sad argument regarding mmos, just don't play them instead of discussing how they are in your opinion just an inferior version of the ordinary 9-5 workday. Damn your guilds must have made you sweat xD
K P I have a shit ton of hours into GW2 and PSO(1-2), but that doesn’t change my opinion at all dude. Fortnite should burn in a dumpsterfire.
Last I checked this is a discussion forum of sorts where opinions are fair game.
@@cipher893 it is fair game, as is my opinion that your opinion stems from a bad mmo experience :) no hate, hope you find a suitable game enjoy
K P Thanks a banana bunch! I did make a ton of friends I keep in touch with today on GW2.
Second Life still has roughly 650,000 - 750,000 active users! They don’t get out much and nobody visits them.
An EvE Titan (the really giant ship for each faction.) legit takes like two physical years to make in the game. And I think it takes like six years to train all of the skills to fly one. Could be wrong but I think thats what it said.
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I LOVEEEEEE MAPLE STORY!! STILL PLAYING SINCE 2006
GAWD!! NEED new MMORPGS. These lists have roughly been the same for years. I love this genre, but dead is dead.
Theyre not like other games in that regard though, fps have to move forward for something fresh, but mmo's you dont want to move on and lose all your progress. Its good they dont change much
I agree with you. I am not currently playing any mmorpg games because none are new and different. I'm just following the new mmorpg games that are coming now.
i just want project BBQ and blue protocol to not flop this year
Play Wakfu
@@arnoldchand4144 I hope blue protocol comes to consoles.
At the very beginning of the video, when he was explaining the video, what game was the background gameplay from?
Yea can someone answer this ?
Exactly, from the second 0:40 to 0:50
True. It looks so cool
Its Dungeon Fighter 3D, or Project BBQ. It's not out yet and probably won't be until late 2020 or early 2021, and it'll take longer than that for North America to get it unfortunately
You are actually wrong on GW2 slowing down content updates. Content has been coming out faster than any other living world season in years. Roughly every 2 months we get some sort of story update not to mention holidays in between.
I think gw2 will start gaining population again because of the 3rd expansion
im thinking of actually playing the game this week
@@memafine6967 You should at least try it. It's AMAZING !
@@jakria2899 yep sure, ill try it tom btw i came from pokemon tibia games xD.
I can usually tell when a game is going downhill, there are telltale signs. I always seem to leave a beloved game right before this happens because you can just see it coming. gw2 has already hit its peak sad to say. It will always be one of my favorite mmos but it's definitely on the downward trend. I simply cannot recommend it to people currently for those that want a game to get into for the long term. This makes me sad to admit actually.
@@RandomPlayIist this is what hinders me from playing the idea of a game shutting down in a few years or months.
SWTOR is the history in the mmorpg you realy participate and merge, but FFXIV is the best PvE on the market
how can FFIX even compare? It is boring as hell. SWTOR story telling is mile above anything else in the market. Rest of the game is a different matter, but no. FFIX doesn't come even close in terms of story telling.
Guild Wars 2 has a lot more life and promise since this video came out. New expansion announced and new game director and new patch that has re-balancing with new WVW and PVP updates and modes.
Gw2 ftw!
Dude he’s an idiot most stuff he says isn’t even true 😂😂😂😂
I hope this will make GW2 the WoW killer that it once almost was!
@@shank8853 being honest, he treated gw2 as the game with the least players that even having 1mil seems extravagant, but the other game having 15 mil or something is perfectly normal.
@ßrooks come on bro, some people will get angry and yall will start arguing. At least state your reasoning.
“Swtor combat is slow and clunky”
*laughs in sith sorcerer*
But for real swtor is definitely a good mmo to try, 8 stories, 4 dlcs plus so much side content and endgame content, 8 classes with like 30ish sub-classes, so many customisations, and yeah the game is highly story driven but the story isn’t forced like most mmos, I’d definitely recommend it if you want to try a new mmo and/or if you’re a star wars EU fan
I think it is a good single player game to try. MMO, not that good.
I think swtor's combat is pretty good aslong as ur using a lightsaber although being a free to play player is a bit shit
no homo lightsaber char are probably the worst, try merc and oper :)
It actually has 5 DLCs with many Sub-DLCs (Which are ARKs relating to said DLCs) but yeah I like both the Single player aspect and multiplayer aspect of the game.
@@lilkreeya4079 laughs in sith assassin
Comments section needed more shout outs for Guild Wars 2. Great game, free, awesome active combat system, free, fashion wars for days, did I mention free? Anyways, I'll just leave this here...
Yeah, you tell 'em dud :D
Hey btw, you know the first clip he shows, with that blonde haired ninja with a blade that has an artstyle that matches that of Breath of the Wild? What is that game called? I am not talking about the games he talks about in a list. I am talking about the very first few seconds in the video. That game looks sick. Mind telling me the name of it? If you are still confused, I am talking about the game at 0:43
@@fellowmemer5693 Project BBQ no releasedate and it is by a company with a sketchy track record.
@@Newby1 Ah yeah, I realised it. Thanks for helping me though :D. i still dont understand something. When i went to check the trailers out, the comment section was full of comments talking about the companies' backstory. Are the convicted for committing mass genocide or something? What is wrong with their backstory lol
And here I am still playing RuneScape
Edit: I totally didn’t expect to see it in this video! Glad to see it being talked about outside of the normal RuneScape community.
same 11 years on runescape. I want something different
They don't release numbers, but in terms of subscribers it's probably in the top 3 of mmorpgs. There really are a lot more runescape players than most people think.
Awesome video! I just started playing Black Desert Online this week and I love it the graphics and the game play is really cool. The difficulty for me is remembering where I left my horse, items in specific storage keepers or the fact that theirs no fast travel make it hard but once you get organized and set small goals when you log on and stick to it, stay VERY positive lol it becomes easier and rewarding if everything goes as planed.
you can see where your horse is
Dudemen_Pro if you are far enough you can’t, maybe it’s just me but yeah 👍🏾
BDO is beautiful, complete, has so much to do - probably more than any other major MMO .... however, the endgame PvP is basically pay2win as top tier gear is a full time day job to grind for months, only to see it break, where players can just pay to avoid half of the headaches.
For that reason, I think ESO is on top of the market right now for that type of MMO (type being, good graphics, complete sandbox-ish MMO that isnt WoW)
Following for quite some time now, but never stopped to wonder: How has exercise affected your mental in comparison to maybe before you started going on these walks? Would you say its important or recommended considering the stress that an MMORPG can bring? (Healing, tanking, DPS rotation pressures, etc) -- I'd personally like to see a short video of you talking about it. Some of us just need that extra push to maybe try something to break the habit of "bed to boot."
The secret to Swtor being better in combat is a button-mash/priority macro setup that would allow you to move your skills around on a hotbar. The rotation is now the challenge as is your skill in programing this. Mix this with actual manual hotkey presses. This is when it's fun. The animations start to shine now and you can really pull off some sick moves. Supposedly this is all good with end user agreement too "One Button, One Action".
...but I guess that would work with anything.
DFO really, I played YEARS ago when it first came out. I hit a cieling in the game where I couldn't get passed so I quit. Can't believe that game is still available lol
Yeah. It actually did die, but was resurrected by a passionate team that made it better than it had ever been. It's honestly a better comeback story than FFXIV.
I played both versions, Nexon and Neople, nexon only played for couple hours and that's it, but the neople one i played for a thousand hours, grind 7 characters to lvl 75 when it was the max lvl, i have almost 2 years without touching it, and im not missing it because it turned out to be pay to win for raids.
I wish Aion was still big. That is still my favorite MMORPG. I gotta settle for Black Desert right now.
Same for me tho.. Aion is so P2W, unplayable, especially in EUW under Gameforge..
Yes Aion even a released remaster ,best combat system in my opinion in any MMORPG I have played
Ive closed my heart for that blessing of a game. I might aswell stop playing it now before i start hating it.
I gave Aion a try again about a month ago. It is a husk of what it used to be. Apparently they condensed the whole of the original base game down to one zone, and even they shrunk the cities too. Really sad.
@@HalcyonVoid what?! they shrunk it down?
I got back into GW2 since the pandemic started and love it so much. One of the best communities I've ever come across!
- GW2: It has flaws. All of which mechanical, not philosophical. The most major one is the lack of collision which makes WvW a joke. Another minor one is that the "dodge" is an "immunity sura" rather than an actual physical dodge. I also dislike how most older specs become obsolete with new expansions and if happened to enjoy an old spec and try to stick with it in the newest expansion, you'll probably suffer in pvp. Very fun game, if you like freedom of choice and schedule. One of the few mmos that im having fun in the moment.
- ESO: Theres only one flaw, which i didnt mind when i played say... Oblivion, but now it annoys me very much. And that is the horrible animations and movement. The fights look like ...robots, with parkinson's, sliding on ice, trying to guard their opponent in a basketball match on NBA Live 2000. Though i really love exploration in this game.
- SWTOR: Not many flaws. Just.. way too many abilities. wtf i want to relax and escape, not play the piano while high on coke. The stories are excellent. And i actually like the simple graphics. Very underrated game.
- FFXIV: Pretty, good story, and i like the housing. Too many filler abilities almost-douplicate abilities for the sake of having many abilities. Abilities that hold your hand with combo/followup-mechanics. Too many cooldowns as well. And it has very few abilities that are trully cool and fun. Cant be arsed to follow the story cause most content including main questlines are not voiced over. The most boring questing in any AAA mmo, you just travel from place to place and talk to silent and still npcs, and i honestly never died once while leveling to max level... yawn. The world while beautiful, is pointless with nothing to explore/find. PvP is a joke. PvE is nice, and most raids are very fun. Housing is awesome. If you buy a boost to max level and ignore pvp, you'll love it.
- WoW: Half classes can be played by a monkey while the other half have way too many abilities and cooldowns. The story has gone to shit since Varian/Voljin died. Used to be a fan of the hectic gameplay but not anymore, im too old. World is nice, PvE is nice, PvP is okay, but their philosophy is pushing half the people away (no freedom) while forcing others to play a little bit every day non stop (routine) with strictly "incentivized" progression and little actual choice in what you do while online. Turning WoW from a game into a job.
I havent played the rest from this list, so i cant comment on them.
FFXIV is my all time favorite MMO, I love how we get a decent amount of content every few months and olnly have to buy Expansions every two years or so. So good. anyway also ESO I just started again two days ago I just wish I could play everything on one character like FFXIV. I tend to make a lot of characters... I have a problem....
You have to BUY additional content for a game you're paying for every month to play? What a cash grab.
@@DeivixLV I get where your coming from. You can just get the standard sub though and dont have to buy the smaller stuff
@@DeivixLV Its not a cash grab, but go off.
@@DeivixLV A cash grab implies that the content isnt worth the money. Which it is. WoW does the same thing with major expansions.
i loved ff14, i wish i had the time to be able to play it, i miss it so much, i had so much fun with it and loved all my guildmates
What is the game from the beginning before he presents his list?
I too was interested in finding this out. Later in the responses to this video it is answered, Dungeon Fighter 3D.
Its bbq project
What is the game footage at the start of the video?
Project BBQ
Its Project BBQ a 3D render version of dungeon fighter online 3:06 that was announced last December, possibly a prequel story we dont know yet.
SWTOR is my go to mmo, I always go back to it after a break
My break was about 5 years but Im goofing off in it now preferred isnt bad just no artifact equipment pisses me off
@@CynicallyObnoxious yeah I get that I usually re sub when I jump back on
@@theforbiddenoni303 I cant I supported the game from launch up to Shadow of Revan lol im trying to find a work around
@@CynicallyObnoxious that's fair, only thing I can think of is to get the artifact equipment authorisation from either the cash shop or the GTN if you have the credits
@@theforbiddenoni303 I looked ant there where two both for 150million lmfao I was like what idiot threw that up there thinking that was gonna sell lol
“Stop poking me”. “I don’t feel too good”. Lol. Original wow player here.
Warcraft player here. XD
IIIRattleHeadIII I started with diablo I think when I was a kid when it first came out and I’m almost 40 now
@@RebeccaLyn I started with WC3 and Diablo 2 in late 2002 Christmas, now I'm 20 XD
IIIRattleHeadIII ah the frozen throne I still have it on cd. Ya I played all the original blizzard games. Stealing worts leg and all lol.
U forgot zuk zuk, loptarrrr and more classic c&c for king and country aknolished and affirmative xd
First time I've seen one of your videos and I just want to say THANK YOU for putting the game title in the corner of the screen the entire time your talking about it. When people don't do that it drives me crazy. bravo
My god. It's so sad to see this is all that's out there. I'm surprised path of exile didnt make the list
PoE is a Hack'n Slay, no MMO.
PoE is ARPG :)
Man, as much attention as OSRS gets, I still think it's vastly overlooked, simply because of its graphics and gameplay. I think it's still one of the best MMOs, if you're not turned away by the grindy nature.
Huge mmo fan and i hope we get plenty of good ones in future. But.. I have to say that OSRS is ultimate mmo of all times. I HATE how rs3 looks like and i LOVE how OSRS does. Also it takes more skill to be good in osrs, than many people might think.
Yeah no shot do i play runescape, it looks like an mmorpg i could be into but the low qual customization and age keeps me from even installing it.
@@jplaygame7 I don't mind RS3 at all, but shit, OSRS does most things so much better. Sad to see RS3 ruined by microtransactions.
@@synthqt7825 There's a 3rd party client for OSRS called RuneLite, it provides a fuckton of customization, animation smoothing, skyboxes, bigger window sizes and makes it pretty much like RS3 minus the graphics. I couldn't play without it.
@@KenoxProductions I don't like how rs3 looks like. Micros really suck too. If there was rs3 that looks like bdo and has no micros, i would be interested xD
Been playing WoW since The tail end of Vanilla and almost EVERY single Xpac people hated it..lol. i have liked and loved everything from WoW, 15-20 a month for this amazing world is awesome!
JApp John Andrew Patrick Peters wow is trash, a game for dumb westerners. As soon as I log in to play that game, I see toxic, stupid kids rage quits and belittle newbies because they aren’t skillful enough lol. It tells you what kind of people really plays it. Fyi, i tried to like the game, but no, it is pure garbage.
Mr. Pan D. man
my sentiments exactly. Its a relic of gaming held on to tightly by people with rose tinted glasses and addicted because they spent so much money on it over the years
Went back and tried wow after a year off of it, the game is still kinda fun, no guidance or direction for new players though. The community though, that forced me to unsubscribe immediately. Did one dungeon and the very first interaction with any other player was so toxic it actually caught me off guard.
Yeah the larger the population the more assholes you ll find
But on the flip side you ll also find amazing interactions with kind and funny people.
Don’t judge the whole community based on a few unfortunate cases and have a nice rest of day :D .
@@lolosh99 WoW's community is one of the worst cause most of the nice people have moved on and most of the players left are try hards that have been playing for ages and only keep playing to show off their level and gear... so when you get to a dungeon with them they flame you all the time if you don't run as fast as possible... so yeah... having fun with others is WoW is a possibility but not very probable...
I can't fully agree, but I also only play casually and never play the raid scene, except for LFR. I think I have had less than ten toxic interactions over the past year. With the majority of them centered around current content raiding. If you are referring to raiding or mythic dungeons, then I can understand the perspective. However, since I don't really participate in major raids, I don't see that toxicity. Ultimately, if you aren't playing to play hardcore endgame content then it shouldn't be that bad. At least it hasn't been for me. :P
@@swiftie10 raiding isnt hardcore end game....thats all the content lmao if u dont raid or do mythics wtf do u do? Run in circles? People that have done every raid and mythic are bored looking for more thats why they are triggered all the time. They play and fund a game that gets catered to you running around picking flowers and doing nothing unfortunately.
@@Brandon-yd3rk I like the world itself. So instead of basing my entire experience on just what end game provides, I go explore parts I didn't get a chance to in the past. Before I would be rushing to max level and skipping out on side stories and parts of the world that I didn't know existed. I never played during MoP or WoD, so I want to explore those. Not mention I have plenty of classes I still haven't leveled. But to be honest I haven't sunk thousands of hours into the game, so of course there is still plenty for me to do.
What game was that whose gameplay was being showed before the first game in the list?
This was my question...
Project BBQ Dungeon Fighter Online 3D
this video deserves a thumbs down just for that
Played most of these at some point. GW2 will always be my go to. 7 year vet.
Im having a huge amount of fun with Elder Scrolls Online unfortunately I havent done much in Guild Wars 2 since I went elder scrolls
It's a really good game, we just started a new character aswell :)
Dungeons are a blast.
Anyone want to play I just started to
@@thegamingchannelofawesome8384 Where are you from?
Casper R-H I’m living in Miami FL right now
@@thegamingchannelofawesome8384 i just transfered from ps4 to pc kind of a vet im lvl 6 healer rn give me your discord so we can play together if youd like
what is the name of the game that is played in the very start like from 00:00 to 00:50?
Dungeon fighter online 2 AKA Project BBQ
That FFXIV tank positioning needs massive work...
In what way?
Gw2 is still going strong! Can't wait for the upcoming expansion. Having played the other mmos listed, I can say that Gw2 is the only fun and fulfilling one for me. Like I get a sense of accomplishment from PvE going through the story and doing world events. Not to mention PvP and especially WvW is still very active, esp on weekends.
same, but I don't agree on the PvP being active. I don't play WvW but I've heard people complaining about it as well
I haven’t played gw2 in years and may try it again due to covid-19. Happy to hear it’s still strong, however pvp was my mainstay. I heard it’s not as active in that regard anymore so I might have to try some WvW or PvE content.
@@kanedietz2347 it's still very active. You can find a team in a couple of minutes or so. People who complain about it the most are the veterans.
I recently realised how HUGE the game is. I’ve played it for so long that I took so many things for granted but after playing FFXIV I realised that GW2 offers much more.
Dofus shuld be on this list :P Especialy Illyzele server.
Eww people still play that garbage??
@@nio1763 You can't deny that it was the n1 mmo in its era, and you'll never find a bigger world, e-sports pvp, a whole lot of jobs ( yes fkin jobs from tailors to jewlers to fkin butchers and so on), donjons, mobs... I won't fkin stop the details in that game is literally the best alternative world.
Since 2001, older than most of the people here....
Looks at my day 1 account of runescape......
Yeah....
EQ in August 99 was my start on the MMO path.
Im from 86 and i did play atari nes sega bassicly i played since then and stil do at 33 years old.
Favorite games of all time
FF7
Secret of mana
Zelda a link to the past
Counter-strike
Call of duty 4
Chronotrigger
Command and conquer red alert 2 yuris revenge
My RuneScape account dates back to when Santa hats were random drops around Christmas time.
@@amandavodder2641 that was after 2001
What game is that your playing at the begging in the intro?
Project BBQ Dungeon Fighter Online 3D
i wanted to know the dame thing!
Hey I've been playing FXIV for 6 years now. Starting a channel (my first one) any advice?
I don't have a channel, but what I did saw from other channels and have been working for them is:
1. Find one theme or content you like and stick with it (You will be recognized for that content and if it hits the ranks and you grow your audience, that theme will help you get to different content later.) Like Pewdiepie, who make an audience playing horror games, and later on, he is able to make different content with the same audience. Is harder than say it, of course.
2. Don't make promises, but if you make them, deliver. Do your thing and gain your audience.
3. Entertain. People stay in a video when something makes them laugh, or makes them be very very interested in what you're streaming. Whether is because you're telling very good jokes while you stream, your attitude and voice towards recording yourself, or because you're very good at what you do in-game (If videogames).
@@DavidJMunoz-kn2qh thank you !
I will warn anyone considering ESO that the lag issues are really defining the game experience right now. I play mostly PvP and the lag in Cyrodiil Grey Host is borderline unplayable, even on week nights. You don't know which abilities are cast, which ones are not, which ones are just lagged out...it's a disaster. I spend 20 seconds taking no damage and dealing no damage, then everything hits me all at once and I kill two people and die.
I do not PvE that much, but my friends that are big into raiding said that lag has also started to pop up in the big raids. The issues have been known and brought up numerous times and ZOS does nothing to fix it. Instead, they create more gear sets and dungeons. Ironically, I think some of the issue is the prevalence of AoE effects from abilities, combined with AoE effects from gear. It's basically just an overload on the servers when you have a big group and everyone is causing some sort of an AoE effect.
I wish Rift still had active player base. It was the only MMO I can think of that could compete with World of Warcraft at the time. I loved the random rifts that would pop up and bring a bunch of people to the same location to fight off waves of enemies followed by a boss. The dungeons were really fun and the soul system for the classes was unreal opening up tons of different ways you could play your class.
My girl still plays...I see plenty of people online all the time when she is on.
I think SWTOR has some truly good parts. If you are able to ignore the horrible microtransactions and money grabbing
@@Claymore1977 Good to know, might have to download it then.
@@16m49x3 I used to play that a lot back when it launched. I've been playing Lotro recently though and really enjoying it.
thats because you never played lineage 2 from the beginning
You forgot classic wow, I think it has enough of a player base to be on this list and is probably at least as good or better than some on the list.
100%
Guild wars 2 was done quite dirty 😭
Every Mmo struggles, it is not a secret, but why go out of your way to comment on the losses of arenanet as a company and not mention it for other games? (Earnings , employee lay offs )
Also, gw 2 is not free to play, it is a free infinite trial, that lets u experience all maps until 2015 when 1st expac came out. But it limits the player in a lot of ways until the price for a full game is paid.
the quests are the same as well. i thought the combat was really fun, but the entire quest lines were exactly the same.
- - - IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN FINAL FANTASY XIV - - -
1. there is a free trial version of the game
2. the free trial got an overhaul and now you can play for free until level 60 (includes the whole base game ARR and the first expansion/DLC Heavensward)
definitely worth checking it out
@Nils Grønkjær combat at max level is quick
except you are a black mage, then no
but if you play for example as samurai or ninja, you can attack very very quickly
what is the game he is playing at the start of the video it looks pretty cool?
lol came to the commentsection to ask the exact same
same, it seems to be an upcoming mmorpg Project BBQ Dungeon Fighter Online 3D th-cam.com/video/1RG8Y254L5Q/w-d-xo.html
@ill bill man what the hell is your problem
What game are u playing at the beginning
SAINT-BRO's .
The first gameplay clips he showed of the first one... they looked cool as...
Let me know if you find the game! It looks so sick..
S0LARUS V5 the first game is Project BBQ
Project BBQ Dungeon Fighter Online 3D
I've been playing BDO like crazy in the past week, I never understood all the systems in the game so I never actually played it, but combat is addictive. In just less than a week I have 4 characters over 40 with my Guardian being the highest at 54. And those loading screens are desync bugs. Try changing servers when it happens.
Dungeon Fighter Online is without a doubt the biggest MMORPG in the world with 1.6 billion dollars in revenue in 2019 which absolutely crushes the competition.
It generated more revenue in 2019 than the 9 other MMO on that list combined.
SWTOR is dope as hell man. Playing it as I'm watching this lol.
The Outsider Agreed!
It's the only MMO that got me to actually pay attention to the stories (and enjoy it!). It's my favorite in that category. Sadly, I don't have the money to pay for a subscription every damn month. The limitations that comes with it bothers me.
@@Tesse29 Yeah it's unfortunate. I also end up spending way too much money on the cartel market for the awesome lightsabers and armor sets lol. I've probably put at least 1k into this game since I started playing.
People say the same thing about FFXIV, it has no Steam numbers so its a dead game lolz these are the same people that based games off of Twitch views.
FFXIV is such a weird game how they have like no content creator community. The game's probably close to WoW in subs, and yet their biggest TH-camr Mr. Happy has like 150k subs. Where as there are dozens of WoW channels with 1mil+ subs, lol.
@@nauscakes1868 Everyone who plays FFXIV either hangs out on discord or in game. We don't really watch the big creators for it because there's a mind-boggling amount of stuff to do in game.
What is the game displayed in the first seconds of the video?
I found a buried comment with the answer. " Its Dungeon Fighter 3D, or Project BBQ. It's not out yet and probably won't be until late 2020 or early 2021, and it'll take longer than that for North America to get it unfortunately"
AHHHHHH WHAT GAME IS AT THE BIGGINING. sorry for caps
Fr
i think its kurtzspel, i could be wrong
tell me
The game in the intro is Project BBQ btw, not released yet
As someone who has played SWTOR on and off since the begin, I think it is the best it has EVER been. Great game, definitely a bit more casual which is nice. You can play tons of different characters without feeling like you are missing out.
Man, how is ESO so low on the twitch list with that many players? I’ve played both WoW and ESO and ESO definitely has WAY more players. Even just on PC. Count in console since its there now too, idk how its not up there with wow
Eso doesnt have more pc players than wow lol.
I imagine ESO, on all platforms, still has less players than WoW
@@sideshowblob especially with classic out now.
Eso is fun to play but boring to watch.
No one likes to watch MMORPG games on twitch. I can tell you, I love and play a lot of MMO games but never go on twitch to watch them. If I am on twitch is to watch league or FPS games. MMOs are really boring to watch,
What the hell name of the game you showed before Guild Wars 2? I watched the video 1000 times but you did not say the name of it ??????
I'm wondering the same
Faik Yesilyaprak Same here!
I think it is Blue Protocol...? Idk
Thanks for including SWTOR even if my comment had nothing to do with it, appreciate the mention.
That game has potential!!
Probably the only comment to mention Dekaron -- it's a different mmo game for how old it is! Not bad in graphics either. Check it out :)
FFXIV story is amazing as single player rpg..to think people would invested and feel personally connected
0:37 what's the name of that game in the intro?
I believe that's wildstar, it kind of died out pretty quickly
@@jacksonsmith5312 wild star is completely different then that game.
So what is that game again?
Project BBQ
@@barry5832 thanks m8 do u know where i can get it?
Cmon whats the name of the Intro game(s) id really like to know!
Me too !
@@NeilSheeran project bbq boys
as a MMO player who cut his teeth on Lineage 2 in the genre... i look for MMO's that feel like Lineage 2..and its hard to find a good one.
I mean it honestly depends what aspects of L2 you enjoyed!
@@MMOByte i didnt like the HELLISH GRIND of L2 thats for sure... Tera, GW2 , runes of Magic and Rift... ate up a ton of my life playing them... how they TIE to L2 for me.. i dunno
I have the same problem, l2 has been probably my fav game ever made, I’m still playing private servers here and there.
@@jpettus001 any server you recomend i am searching one with the same old feeling, kind of hard to lvl but with a nice adena/xp balance
Nothing I’ve found that isn’t crazy fun, if you like the old just pvp style play, l2ovc came back to interlude today for gve style game, i enjoyed those for what they were, besides that, warland i bear isn’t to bad. Hard to find anyone that speaks English on the servers now days is my issue.
If anyone remembers Gates of Andaron, or 4story.They are releasing a new version of 4story next month so let’s look forward to it. It’s an amazing game!
4story was my shit! Got more info or a link or something?
Neexxable look up 4story: Origin releasing around july